@@omar619kamis The fact is when Maddie was talking to herself when trying to find the secret lair of the manor, we got to see that Maddie has a connection to her mother, almost as the third sense. We get to see this from many routes. Like becoming resistant to brainwashing, choice-making, and nightmares due to her mother being sacrificed as well. The time stamp shows the forceful tug but it was subtle as a hidden detail
Something I didn't quite get in this game, Augustine gets the film pieces from Linda, Madi and Stan. The film made of Murder Mill in THIS timeline. But the film she shows them at the start of the finale is the film from Sam's timeline, where Bonnie died in 1980. Something that quite obviously didn't happen here, or else Maddie wouldn't exist and Linda would not have expressed surprise at her passing due to illness nor her utter confusion and horror at the events recorded therein. Did she show them a different film? Why bother collecting their film if she didn't need it in the end? Did Linda, Madi and Stan have the pieces of Sam's timeline for some inexplicable reason? Maybe this question is answered in some other branch but if it has, I sure haven't seen it.
Maybe she needed something tied to 2024 realm to summon the entity to it? But you are 100% right with confusion. It could also be that intense emotions were needed from Madi as well since the whole point of being put on a hook is to maximize a persons emotions. Seeing the tape ensured that there was going to be emotions expressed, even is Madi doesn’t get sacrificed based on your play through?
I think what might have happened is the movie she showed was edited together from parts from multiple timelines versions of Murder Mill to get a movie that shows a perfected version of Frank. There’s also the implication that Stan might have come from Sam’s timeline, hence Sam accusing him of stealing the tape from his son and Stan recognizing the younger than he should be Sam, this only makes sense if Stan does this in every timeline (plausible) or if Stan himself also was summoned from the 1980s timeline with the Holologium. In that event one third of the movie is from the 1980s timeline where Bonnie dies, while the other 2/3 are from the 2024 timeline where Bonnie survived and had Madison.
Same, I really wish there was a point in the game where you get the chance to control Frank in order to do some of the chase sequences. That would have been hilarious.
@@kennethboozer6148 Im pretty sure she doesn't, Frank gets stunned because the person that got eaten in the projector room will try to come out of his stomach or whatever
Ok, so if Linda decides to just take the elevator, THE DOOR JUST MAGICALLY STOPS WORKING RIGHT? That’s so fucking stupid. Some of these deaths are so contrived it’s unbelievable - this takes the cake
In that scene the door stops working but there are several situations where it'll work just fine depending on if you have Madi with Linda. It's just one branch.
@@ChengTeoh Yeah but that’s the problem isn’t it? It’s not consistent and means that the death is even more bullshit than some of the others. Like Jaime trying to help Chris from being sucked in the door? Maybe kind of bullshit that it’s binary, but it at least makes sense on some level. This? No - someone is ALWAYS inside of Frank and will stop his swing if you help the other person, but not if you don’t? AND THE ELEVATOR DOESN’T WORK? Lunacy
Im so confused now, i though that an outcome where maddi could be hypnotized results all of the times in Maddi getting consumed by frank- That whole frank consumes who is so confusing to me-
@@ChengTeoh Okay ! And do you know how the person Frank will target works ? i dont really understand which event determine if he will tagret chris linda or stan
it really depends on who you have at the final scene, if you've had Madi accept Augustine's drink early in the game and who you chose to give the pendant to.
Well Frank either was at this point husk of his humanself and his only desire was to kill, or hold some sort of grudge for everything that happend. Entity didn't hold him back or help her, because it got what it wanted: a killer. Agustine was simply useless for him
Personally i think sam green is going to be added to dbd soon as a survivor and frank stone as killer i say this bc when you get the ending where sam is captured and "sacraficed" we never actually see him die just get taken bu the entity also if you were to keep everyone else alive and "sacrafice" sam you still get the achievement to pop for saving everyone this might just be an oversight or something in the end but imo i think thats the devs showing that sam didnt die and is still alive somewhere in the entitys realm
Question: how do you keep Sam alive to help madi? I chose to rescue Chris and keep her in 2024 but when I passed the QTEs to protect her from Frank, Sam was immediately consumed
hmm, the only way I know of to keep Madi, Sam, Linda & Chris alive is to have Stan be consumed by Frank. I am going to assume that your Stan was crushed by the contraption... I would just go back to before that point & pass the QTE. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.
@@augustwilson9633 Yeah someone MUST die in that scene where Frank steps out of the screen. If Stan isn't there, Sam or Chris get eaten (I think Madi can get eaten too, if she's wearing the amulet? I don't know for sure since I never put it on, it seemed like schmuck bait.)
madi needs to accept the drink Augustine offers her early in the game, madi needs to take the pendant, make sure to let Frank eat Stan, have Linda & Madi be together while fixing the generator, choose "Help Madi" so Linda lures Frank away while Madi goes to see Augustine. that should be it I think.
ah no problem, i actually came across that issue myself. first time I had Madi get hypnotized while saving Stan thinking that she could get hypnotized again by Augustine, but when that didn't happen I thought to myself maybe it's a one time use special power, lol.
I believe that little invisible tug at 12:39 was her mother trying her last effort to save her kid
omg i saw it too! that's actually neat omfg chills
You mean at 12:45?
P proof or reason for this it doesn't make any sense
@@omar619kamis The fact is when Maddie was talking to herself when trying to find the secret lair of the manor, we got to see that Maddie has a connection to her mother, almost as the third sense. We get to see this from many routes. Like becoming resistant to brainwashing, choice-making, and nightmares due to her mother being sacrificed as well. The time stamp shows the forceful tug but it was subtle as a hidden detail
Something I didn't quite get in this game, Augustine gets the film pieces from Linda, Madi and Stan. The film made of Murder Mill in THIS timeline. But the film she shows them at the start of the finale is the film from Sam's timeline, where Bonnie died in 1980. Something that quite obviously didn't happen here, or else Maddie wouldn't exist and Linda would not have expressed surprise at her passing due to illness nor her utter confusion and horror at the events recorded therein.
Did she show them a different film? Why bother collecting their film if she didn't need it in the end? Did Linda, Madi and Stan have the pieces of Sam's timeline for some inexplicable reason?
Maybe this question is answered in some other branch but if it has, I sure haven't seen it.
Tbh very good point
I think she needed every version of the Murder Mill to get parts of Frank out of them.
I'm not sure tho
Maybe she needed something tied to 2024 realm to summon the entity to it? But you are 100% right with confusion. It could also be that intense emotions were needed from Madi as well since the whole point of being put on a hook is to maximize a persons emotions. Seeing the tape ensured that there was going to be emotions expressed, even is Madi doesn’t get sacrificed based on your play through?
I think what might have happened is the movie she showed was edited together from parts from multiple timelines versions of Murder Mill to get a movie that shows a perfected version of Frank. There’s also the implication that Stan might have come from Sam’s timeline, hence Sam accusing him of stealing the tape from his son and Stan recognizing the younger than he should be Sam, this only makes sense if Stan does this in every timeline (plausible) or if Stan himself also was summoned from the 1980s timeline with the Holologium. In that event one third of the movie is from the 1980s timeline where Bonnie dies, while the other 2/3 are from the 2024 timeline where Bonnie survived and had Madison.
i was a little disappointed when i couldn’t swing my weapon when playing as frank
Same, I really wish there was a point in the game where you get the chance to control Frank in order to do some of the chase sequences. That would have been hilarious.
@@ChengTeoh I'd probably get looped around these damn hallways for 20 minutes then teabagged at the exit. Pass.
@@redshirt49this mannor will be a pain in the ass. Tight corridors, three floors, the hidden passages.
@@GattiJuanIgnacio Hope to god the manor won't be the map Frank comes to DbD with. The Iron mill will probably be it I'd wager.
Augustine got what she deserved 😂 I find it funny af then she gets slapped like right after Madi 😂
Love how Linda just gets karma so hard for not helping Madi lmao 14:45
Yep, insta karma.
Didn’t she also get killed for trying to help
@@kennethboozer6148 Im pretty sure she doesn't, Frank gets stunned because the person that got eaten in the projector room will try to come out of his stomach or whatever
I think Augustine was a sacrifice to the entity by the real Augustine (the old lady).
very true. i actually got that ending after doing this video. thanks for the info. :)
Ok, so if Linda decides to just take the elevator, THE DOOR JUST MAGICALLY STOPS WORKING RIGHT? That’s so fucking stupid. Some of these deaths are so contrived it’s unbelievable - this takes the cake
In that scene the door stops working but there are several situations where it'll work just fine depending on if you have Madi with Linda. It's just one branch.
@@ChengTeoh Yeah but that’s the problem isn’t it? It’s not consistent and means that the death is even more bullshit than some of the others. Like Jaime trying to help Chris from being sucked in the door? Maybe kind of bullshit that it’s binary, but it at least makes sense on some level. This? No - someone is ALWAYS inside of Frank and will stop his swing if you help the other person, but not if you don’t? AND THE ELEVATOR DOESN’T WORK? Lunacy
Im so confused now, i though that an outcome where maddi could be hypnotized results all of the times in Maddi getting consumed by frank- That whole frank consumes who is so confusing to me-
nope, as you can see you can save a hypnotized Madi as long as Sam has access to his gun.
@@ChengTeoh Okay ! And do you know how the person Frank will target works ? i dont really understand which event determine if he will tagret chris linda or stan
@@I_Am54738It’s a culmination of the choice you make throughout the game. They really do matter.
it really depends on who you have at the final scene, if you've had Madi accept Augustine's drink early in the game and who you chose to give the pendant to.
@@ChengTeoh You can also choose to simply never pick up the pendant.
Would've been better if Stone just picked maddie up and sac'd her
There's already a ending for that
I played this with Pendulum, he has part 1 up on his channel right now, and part 2 coming out tomorrow, but we got the last ending.
I dont understand how madi gets captured by Frank when he kills her when she's by herself.
Why does Frank attack Algustine at the end?
She was not worthy of Anything or her myths where wrong and She can't team with him or bcs shss a btc
I think she has to die to enter to the fog as a spectator, Just like in the end now she become part of the fog and can see the trials over and over
I mean, why not?
Well
Frank either was at this point husk of his humanself and his only desire was to kill, or hold some sort of grudge for everything that happend.
Entity didn't hold him back or help her, because it got what it wanted: a killer. Agustine was simply useless for him
@@wooofwooof9745why exacly?
Personally i think sam green is going to be added to dbd soon as a survivor and frank stone as killer i say this bc when you get the ending where sam is captured and "sacraficed" we never actually see him die just get taken bu the entity also if you were to keep everyone else alive and "sacrafice" sam you still get the achievement to pop for saving everyone this might just be an oversight or something in the end but imo i think thats the devs showing that sam didnt die and is still alive somewhere in the entitys realm
8:30 weird, normally theyre not hairy arms right? i swear anytime someone is killed at this part it dont look like that
At 9:34 Does linda has to be dead to get maddie's option of running away???? She is not hypnotized, i already answer my question 😅
Question: how do you keep Sam alive to help madi? I chose to rescue Chris and keep her in 2024 but when I passed the QTEs to protect her from Frank, Sam was immediately consumed
hmm, the only way I know of to keep Madi, Sam, Linda & Chris alive is to have Stan be consumed by Frank. I am going to assume that your Stan was crushed by the contraption... I would just go back to before that point & pass the QTE. Sorry I couldn't be of much help.
@@ChengTeoh no that must’ve been it! I let him be crushed bc he was annoying but I apparently I should’ve saved him instead 🫶 thank you
Hope the info was helpful. Feel free to ask me anything else and if I see your question I will do my best to reply.
@@augustwilson9633 Yeah someone MUST die in that scene where Frank steps out of the screen. If Stan isn't there, Sam or Chris get eaten (I think Madi can get eaten too, if she's wearing the amulet? I don't know for sure since I never put it on, it seemed like schmuck bait.)
How do you trigger Madi gettin hypnotised after telling Augustine to go f herself?
madi needs to accept the drink Augustine offers her early in the game,
madi needs to take the pendant,
make sure to let Frank eat Stan,
have Linda & Madi be together while fixing the generator,
choose "Help Madi" so Linda lures Frank away while Madi goes to see Augustine.
that should be it I think.
@@ChengTeoh thank you very much the issue was I was saving Stan thinking Madi will be hypnotised twice.
ah no problem, i actually came across that issue myself. first time I had Madi get hypnotized while saving Stan thinking that she could get hypnotized again by Augustine, but when that didn't happen I thought to myself maybe it's a one time use special power, lol.
Wow.😮
Whorerologium
Imma use that. Thank you.
@@benfrank9622 hey you thief that is my word you cant steal it
Confront : might be a good idea...
Defensive : it just a word... But.
Probing : why are you so sensitive.
@@fajardiniarikamil2712 What you gonna do about it? 🥸
@@fajardiniarikamil2712why hasn’t he replied yet? That was such a cracked response 😭🔥
Dang
а тут не спасутся ни кто что ли?
Damn Maddi is such a unlikable character.
Your not wrong 😂😂
how
An unlikeable*
Western game dev at it's finest.
@@Blorckits damn