It’s frankly baffling to me that Jay Monahan has not been fired already. In what other industry could you get away with as much poor leadership as he has and still have your job?
After saying these things, Rory was troubled in his spirit, and testified, “Truly, truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.” The disciples looked at one another, uncertain of whom he spoke and asked him, “Lord, who is it?” Rory answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Jon, the son of Rahm.
I think I’m like most golfers. I love to play, I love the majors and I love the Ryder cup. I don’t have time to watch the pga tour and have never even seen LIV Hope they can sort something out but won’t lose any sleep over it.
Agree. I watch a little of the PGAT but I'm certainly not going to sit down and watch 5 hours of golf. I don't watch that much even of the majors. I'll stick to playing golf, watch a little of the majors and some amateur events but that's about it for me.
Bingo. Play loads of golf, watch the majors, watch the Ryder and Presidents Cup (I'm Canadian). The Players still has my attention and Memorial. But - I'm never watching LIV (ever) so this just gives me more time for other stuff.
I love it when folks judge what Rahm says today against what he said in the past WITHOUT acknowledging in the slightest that this huge event (in which the CEO of the PGA Tour totally lied to, humiliated, and betrayed the players, etc, etc.) ever happened.
@@The33LEO33 I mean, he either has a legally enforceable contract with them or not. There haven't been any reports of LIV reneging on deals in the first two years, so I'm guessing Rahm feels pretty secure. But that's not the point. Point is this: Rahm viewed the situation one way at one point, then a year or so later he viewed it differently. That's not hypocrisy. It's not inconsistent. He learned that Jay Monahan his a complete piece of shit and that the PGA Tour was dishonest and brazenly unethical, and in financial trouble to boot. You can like it or not, but if you thought Rahm's early comments on potentially joining LIV were meant to indicate that he would be unthinkingly loyal to these dirtbags, that's on you.
@@ajfgolf The guy isn't hiding. He is doing marketing work for his new employer. If you don't like the advertising, fine. Let's dispense with the "hiding behind..." nonsense. We all know how this stuff works.
@wj7867 it's completely hiding from him personally because why he personally chose to go has nothing to do with his new employer. It's not nonsense, it's sportswashing. If you want to be ok with sportswashing, that's your personal choice, and if I don't want to, that's my personal choice.
A lot of ppl involved in this situation are failing to realize one of the main reasons casuals would tune into golf is because of how compelling the competitive nature of the sport can be at the highest level. Nobody ever watched Tiger because of how rich he was.
"This putt is for half a million dollars" the announcer says on Sunday. Like I give a fuck. I care just as much about the putt in my local club Saturday match where all that's on the line is bragging rights and a pint of beer. I'm not rooting for random PGA tour pros bank account, I'm not their accountant.
You guys can shit on the 'grow the game' calls all you like, but anecdotally here in Australia LIV gets a lot more air time in general sport conversation and random 4-balls chats on course than the PGA tour. The Majors and Tiger aside, I can't recall the last conversation I had about the PGA tour, as opposed to LIV which over the last few years has come up in random conversations in multiple friend groups, and non-golf and non-sport fan friends are showing some interest in going to Adelaide to watch next years LIV event - compare that to the last big event we had here (the President's Cup with Tiger Fucking Woods playing), I can't say a single non-golf friend mentioned anything about it let alone wanted to go. Whether you like it or not, that is growing the game.
I think the best solution is to go back to the option that was available at the beginning. Let the players be free contractors and play/qualify for where they want to play and not do any type of deal. The best players may play both, but will have to pick one over the other on conflicted dates. If you do that, I think the last two years has proven the liv format would not win out. Treat it just like players 60 years ago when they did side exhibition matches.
TV contracts and sponsors want some idea of where the star players are going to play. Hence, players have deadlines to commit to events. (Ratings for golf - for a multitude of reasons - are at their lowest). I wanna say the NBA, recently, have changed or created new rules about ‘sitting’ star players - example: Lebron comes to your town, you buy tickets a month in advance and the coach sits him ‘for rest’. You’d prob be not happy. I live in the Phoenix area and look at who is committed - LPGA, PGAT - before buying tickets. Rahm, due to wining majors in last two yrs is exempt from needing to qualify for any of them (I believe the next 3 yrs) - he gets to play LIV’s 20% less schedule and have a guaranteed Thursday tee time at all majors for next 3 yrs. Pretty sweet deal for him - no brainer!
Remember Rory being Mr. “They made their beds” when speaking about Euro LIV players being banned from the Ryder Cup……welp….😂😂😂 McIlroy said: “As someone who has played on three Ryder Cup teams with Jon...Jon is going to be in Bethpage in 2025. "So because of this decision the European Tour are going to have to rewrite the rules for Ryder Cup eligibility, absolutely, there is no question about that. I certainly want Jon Rahm on the next Ryder Cup team."
Coming from someone who works in the industry, when this golf bubble (that we are 100% in) bursts, I have no idea what the future looks like and that is scary.
The first time I watched LIV I streamed the phone app and was hooked and set it up to on CW to record all coming tournaments. I gave the majors a break the first year and from now on if top LIV players are not invited to play I won’t be watching them. Australia last year was the best tournament I ever saw that wasn’t a major and it hooked many of my golfing buddies once I got them to watch it
58:56 The last good thing that happened for fans of golf was on July 12th 2023.. Strapped (Spring Training) Part 3. Enough already. We want more Strapped…
One thing you guys need to take into account is than the average non golfing nut will watch golf if the scenery is interesting. For example in South Africa the most watched golf is the Dunhill which is played now at Leopard Creek GC which is basically on the edge of Kruger Park. So you see loads of great animals and birds with an expert commentator who can explain what the birds are etc etc. .
And now all of the sudden Rory is crying for a rule change for the Ryder Cup. Funny how that works when the Europeans lose one of their best. US team lost a ton from previous Ryder cup and it didn’t seem to matter then.
Where does Soly's "no LIV inside the top 30 SG" come from? Would like to see receipts. Seems crazy. If SG is simply to the field for LIV, then it is a zero sum game and LIV player must be in the top 30 as they are only competing against themselves. What am I missing? If you point to majors, their records has been quite good. Again, what am I missing? Are you backing DataGolf? Recognize that they rank Zalatoris above Koepka, Gooch, Reed, English and DJ after not playing all year and coming last by a mile @ Hero. Love Zalatoris and love the pod. But Soly need take a break as he's dragging the team down. Finding any finger hold that nobody good plays on LIV. Leave Soly to interview external guests and leave the rest of the crew to do rest. It's exhausting. (all respect given.
It is so beautiful to see you guys finally having to come around. LIV golf has just as much of chance if not better to win more majors than PGA guys this year, and you still call it not serious golf. Hysterical
After a pretty enjoyable fall with the Ryder Cup (at least from a European perspective) and some great and emotional moments on the PGA Tour like the victories of Villegas, Van Rooyen and Aberg, we are now back on the path of destruction. It just flat out sucks.
Golf fans around the World is enjoying the top players in the world coming to their countries. PGAT have to focus on America & US Born players. The players going to LIV now are mostly Foreign players anyway. LIV is going to replace the old European tour in a Bigger way, going around the World.
typical American, Did you know LIV grew the game in Australia where it just sold out in 3 days when tour is not played until April 2024. And what about Monahan and the things he said should he be able to back out' if PGAT was so good how come 14 out of 24 PGAT major players are now with LIV. 3 of the past 5 major winners and 7 of the last 14. It is great for America to get the major players each week and the rest of the world including Australia who had to pay millions just for Tiger and Rory to appear, Now they get 14 major winners without cost. yes unknown to you liv is growing the game outside of America.
Take the NBA's IST as an example. Nobody is watching it for the crazy courts. No one has said they like it because the players will get 500k. The reason why it has been such a success is because the games have been compelling and the competitive nature of the games have been ramped up. Fans and casuals want to see excellence at the highest levels of any sport. The best players in the world playing against each other when its clear the players are giving it their all, that is what brings eyeballs. Golf has a theatrical advantage, given how natural entertaining drama is manufactured through the game itself. Tiger brought so many eyeballs because of how good he was, not because he was so rich.
Yep. The guys that supported the PGA tour felt double crossed with his 180 degree turn to LIV. So why not say screw you PGAT and take the money? I hate the LIV tour for what its worth but don't blame Rahm.
It’s probably hard for the average person to watch golf when it’s pounded into their brain that the best golfer is determined by total number of majors won. Why would they watch normal tour events, they don’t matter? Seems like most golfers would rather play golf than watch golf.
Just because this (and all the other LIV defections) negatively impacts the PGA tour, it doesn't have to negatively impact golf as a whole. The Tour is not golf, we are. The existence of LIV isnt necessarily a bad thing for golf. If you give it a chance, LIV could create a greater audience for professional golf around the world. If you recall the WWF (Now WWE) entered into a broken pro wrestling environment by buying up all the talent. At first the talent leaving were considered defectors, but in the end the bigger stage and vast sums of money created something unachievable prior to. LIV may bring the same enhancement to golf.
Soly, "going back to that time period, the Khashoggi stuff was very recent" ..... he was murdered in 2018, LIV wasn't a serious conversation for at least 3 years afterwards. Sportwashing wasn't really being talked about when Jay wouldn't take PIF's calls, and the whole 'blood money' concept wasn't spoken about until well after moves had already been made. Are you really suggesting Jay didn't take those early calls because of Khashoggi? That's a bit of revisionist history isn't it?
I think LIV Golf has credited a lot of overinflated egos. Jon Rahm got 566M to run away. 302 M upfront and the rest in signing bonus that is according to the SBJ and Wall Street Journal. That makes Jon the most richest athelete of 2023. Did he really want to run away or was LIV just FINALLY desperate cause of the fact that his deal is no where to be done. I remember when that league first formed a couple of years ago, Jon offered 300M to join but didnt happen.
Look guys, you backed the wrong horse. The cope after Koepka winning a major last year not being a win for LIV pales into comparison over the cope about Rahm joining LIV not being a win for LIV
Keep laughing at LIV . Keep going guys. Time for the pga tour to be crushed. They do not own the game and they’ve behaved as if they had a complete monopoly. Golf is a global game and I look forward to welcoming a liv event in Spain.
Amazing the NLU guys all thought LIV was going away after 6/6 and even after today still don't fully acknowledge what's going on. That's to to say I agree with it all but I wouldn't estimate how deep their pockets are.
Spieth? What are you talking about? Get out of your bubble. Spieth has been "just a guy" for 6 years and counting. Will do nothing going forward. Outside of the US NGAF about Spieth or JT. It's painful that you think these guys are relevant.
There is only about 25 guys that legit have shot to win on tour every week before LIV was even a thing. The other 125 guys are just there to fill the field. Its been that way since Jack and Arnie started the tour and its the same today. It was always going to come to a separate tour of the worlds best 40-50 players and everyone else doesn’t matter. Jack, Tiger, Brooks, Rory they all say the same thing about the tour field.
Actually, tour history proves more than 25 guys win every week. Typically there are 4 to 6 first winners in any given season, this past I believe there were 10 to 12 first-time winners. Every great player has to start with their first win.. But I agree let the players play wherever they want. Because to to lose the PGA tour means to lose LPGA, Champions Tour, and Korn Ferry tour, which all owned and run by the PGA tour.
Hitching a ride to Tiger who plays if he’s lucky 5 times a year is a flawed thought and hope he saves the tour. Spieth is popular but has been irrelevant for years now.
All these cats are talking about players leaving PGAT of America. PGAT is not global tour, it’s American tour played 90% of its Tournaments in US. Just focus & promote the US players & the tournaments.
I'm SO over professional golf. Thank goodness for your channel and some of the other TH-cam golf channels. I'd much rather watch one of your travel/golf round videos than the pros these days.
Just a thought… Active @PGATOUR players with multiple majors (excluding TW): Rory (4) + Jordan (3) + Collin (2) + JT (2) = 11 Active @livgolf_league players: Phil (6) + Brooks (5) + Bubba (2) + Kaymer (2) + DJ (2) + Rahm (2) = 19 Door now wide open for VH, SS, CM, TK?🤪
You wouldn't have done this? No f'ing way. You would be insane not to. LIV is the future, PGA is the past. PGA is a mill and that's the way those that control the PGA behind the scenes want it to be. Do you as a fan want to watch Rahm in snippets here and there and maybe once in a while you see him when he's leading a tournament? Not me, no f'ing way. PGA is done unless they adjust.
You lot have been wrong about everything lol hey you told the world the agreement with PIF means liv is dead and Greg norman is gone and Jay Monahan has control over everything
Did Rahm looking out for his and his family's best interest affect how anyone else swings the clubs? Does it affect how well any golfer plays in a tournament ? Does it affect endorsements for any golfer? No, no, and no. Does it affect the monopoly the PGA has had on professional golf for far too long? Damn straight it does, and that's a GOOD thing.
You guys just don’t get it LIV is the big dog. All of the other tours including PGA are just feeder tours to play in LIV. Keep hanging on to PGA and lose your future. Jump to LIV while you can
I’m kinda done. More focus is needed on the alienation of the fan. The true golf fan is repulsed by this process that is centered on individual profit at ungodly numbers. The truly engaged fan who watches the sport and follows outlets like NLU, feel completely discarded as the sport they love is being dismantled for the benefit of a few. There may be a unification down the road, but there may be less fans watching. It is very possible this whole thing becomes an “own goal”.
As someone who just got into golf this year…this isn’t helping. I want to watch golf. I want to see the best players every weekend but the commercial load and media rights being everywhere make it difficult to give a shit and I’m real deep since it’s my new thing. It’s hard to consume. I want to consume as much as possible but can’t. The app is terrible. TC’s hoodie is inside out. I don’t care that rahm left as I didn’t really like him from what I’ve seen this year. I want to see my favorite players and he wasn’t one of them. Much like the distance debate that doesn’t affect me, I didn’t watch him when he was featured and I won’t watch LIV now because he is there. If Max, JT and Jordan go I’ll watch. Make an app like F1. Let me pay money willingly to watch who i want to watch. The whole round. Every round they play. I already do that for F1 and the NHL. I’ll do it for golf.
This all is just soooooo lame. Rahm sold out. End of story. LIV aint growing the game. The team aspect IS NOT good for golf. He does not have to provide anymore for his family. He. sold. out. Lame that he says anything else. Have fun at the LIV frat parties Rahm. See ya at the majors.
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It’s frankly baffling to me that Jay Monahan has not been fired already. In what other industry could you get away with as much poor leadership as he has and still have your job?
He’s being ruthlessly water boarded with money. What would you do?
The South African government
Congress? Marvel execs? I think that's about it 😂
You’re right. He hasn’t been watering his money tree enough. He’s gotta go!
Just scored a $3 billion investment from an American entity- he was gonna get fired January 1, 2024 but that saved him
After saying these things, Rory was troubled in his spirit, and testified, “Truly, truly, I say to you, one of you will betray me.” The disciples looked at one another, uncertain of whom he spoke and asked him, “Lord, who is it?” Rory answered, “It is he to whom I will give this morsel of bread when I have dipped it.” So when he had dipped the morsel, he gave it to Jon, the son of Rahm.
28:08 TC’s face when he realizes his hoodie is inside out 😂
I think I’m like most golfers. I love to play, I love the majors and I love the Ryder cup. I don’t have time to watch the pga tour and have never even seen LIV Hope they can sort something out but won’t lose any sleep over it.
Agree. I watch a little of the PGAT but I'm certainly not going to sit down and watch 5 hours of golf. I don't watch that much even of the majors. I'll stick to playing golf, watch a little of the majors and some amateur events but that's about it for me.
Bingo. Play loads of golf, watch the majors, watch the Ryder and Presidents Cup (I'm Canadian). The Players still has my attention and Memorial. But - I'm never watching LIV (ever) so this just gives me more time for other stuff.
I love it when folks judge what Rahm says today against what he said in the past WITHOUT acknowledging in the slightest that this huge event (in which the CEO of the PGA Tour totally lied to, humiliated, and betrayed the players, etc, etc.) ever happened.
Clearly a rational reaction to the indiscretions of the PGA Tour is to run into the trustworthy arms of…………..Greg Norman and the Saudi Royal family.
@@The33LEO33 I mean, he either has a legally enforceable contract with them or not. There haven't been any reports of LIV reneging on deals in the first two years, so I'm guessing Rahm feels pretty secure.
But that's not the point. Point is this: Rahm viewed the situation one way at one point, then a year or so later he viewed it differently. That's not hypocrisy. It's not inconsistent. He learned that Jay Monahan his a complete piece of shit and that the PGA Tour was dishonest and brazenly unethical, and in financial trouble to boot.
You can like it or not, but if you thought Rahm's early comments on potentially joining LIV were meant to indicate that he would be unthinkingly loyal to these dirtbags, that's on you.
@wj7867 absolutely fair and agree, but then say that, don't hide behind the growing the game nonsense
@@ajfgolf The guy isn't hiding. He is doing marketing work for his new employer. If you don't like the advertising, fine. Let's dispense with the "hiding behind..." nonsense. We all know how this stuff works.
@wj7867 it's completely hiding from him personally because why he personally chose to go has nothing to do with his new employer. It's not nonsense, it's sportswashing. If you want to be ok with sportswashing, that's your personal choice, and if I don't want to, that's my personal choice.
A lot of ppl involved in this situation are failing to realize one of the main reasons casuals would tune into golf is because of how compelling the competitive nature of the sport can be at the highest level. Nobody ever watched Tiger because of how rich he was.
"This putt is for half a million dollars" the announcer says on Sunday. Like I give a fuck. I care just as much about the putt in my local club Saturday match where all that's on the line is bragging rights and a pint of beer. I'm not rooting for random PGA tour pros bank account, I'm not their accountant.
Hahaha couldn’t have said it better myself.
Like many I’m losing interest with Pro Golf, I get more enjoyment watching you chaps playing in Scotland etc, keep it going lads👍
You guys can shit on the 'grow the game' calls all you like, but anecdotally here in Australia LIV gets a lot more air time in general sport conversation and random 4-balls chats on course than the PGA tour. The Majors and Tiger aside, I can't recall the last conversation I had about the PGA tour, as opposed to LIV which over the last few years has come up in random conversations in multiple friend groups, and non-golf and non-sport fan friends are showing some interest in going to Adelaide to watch next years LIV event - compare that to the last big event we had here (the President's Cup with Tiger Fucking Woods playing), I can't say a single non-golf friend mentioned anything about it let alone wanted to go. Whether you like it or not, that is growing the game.
What Rahm said "$400 million wouldn't change my life" , What Rahm didn't say "$600* million wouldn't change my life!"
its called poker, he was bluffing and in the end he got his bag
I think the best solution is to go back to the option that was available at the beginning. Let the players be free contractors and play/qualify for where they want to play and not do any type of deal. The best players may play both, but will have to pick one over the other on conflicted dates. If you do that, I think the last two years has proven the liv format would not win out. Treat it just like players 60 years ago when they did side exhibition matches.
Good point.
TV contracts and sponsors want some idea of where the star players are going to play. Hence, players have deadlines to commit to events. (Ratings for golf - for a multitude of reasons - are at their lowest). I wanna say the NBA, recently, have changed or created new rules about ‘sitting’ star players - example: Lebron comes to your town, you buy tickets a month in advance and the coach sits him ‘for rest’. You’d prob be not happy. I live in the Phoenix area and look at who is committed - LPGA, PGAT - before buying tickets. Rahm, due to wining majors in last two yrs is exempt from needing to qualify for any of them (I believe the next 3 yrs) - he gets to play LIV’s 20% less schedule and have a guaranteed Thursday tee time at all majors for next 3 yrs. Pretty sweet deal for him - no brainer!
Remember Rory being Mr. “They made their beds” when speaking about Euro LIV players being banned from the Ryder Cup……welp….😂😂😂
McIlroy said: “As someone who has played on three Ryder Cup teams with Jon...Jon is going to be in Bethpage in 2025.
"So because of this decision the European Tour are going to have to rewrite the rules for Ryder Cup eligibility, absolutely, there is no question about that. I certainly want Jon Rahm on the next Ryder Cup team."
Coming from someone who works in the industry, when this golf bubble (that we are 100% in) bursts, I have no idea what the future looks like and that is scary.
What golf bubble
LIV is the future
@@robertschissler1236 what’s the golf bubble though
The first time I watched LIV I streamed the phone app and was hooked and set it up to on CW to record all coming tournaments. I gave the majors a break the first year and from now on if top LIV players are not invited to play I won’t be watching them. Australia last year was the best tournament I ever saw that wasn’t a major and it hooked many of my golfing buddies once I got them to watch it
58:56 The last good thing that happened for fans of golf was on July 12th 2023.. Strapped (Spring Training) Part 3. Enough already. We want more Strapped…
You guys didn’t care when Rahm was pushing the PGA Tour’s party line, nobody did. Now you’re crying about him pushing the other side.
RIP my interest in anything outside of The Masters and The Open
How much of the Mexico Open did you watch ?
@@F5BOTDI don’t watch tennis
KVV is right. It’s exhausting to have yet another thing in life that gets “both sides” to death
Those poor journalists - I guess calling half the country nazis makes people pick a side ?!
@@DFWRob super cool man. Thanks for proving my point almost immediately by being exhaustingly annoying
@@Jwtexan2386 👍🏻👍🏻
Rahm for the Grand Slam still in play?
"Burn it down", "If you're a fringe player get ready to grind it out"
One thing you guys need to take into account is than the average non golfing nut will watch golf if the scenery is interesting. For example in South Africa the most watched golf is the Dunhill which is played now at Leopard Creek GC which is basically on the edge of Kruger Park. So you see loads of great animals and birds with an expert commentator who can explain what the birds are etc etc. .
And now all of the sudden Rory is crying for a rule change for the Ryder Cup. Funny how that works when the Europeans lose one of their best. US team lost a ton from previous Ryder cup and it didn’t seem to matter then.
Good Good v. Jeff Sluman comment killed me. 😂
I wouldn't take $500 million to miss the free milkshakes at the Memorial.
KVV saying he'd turn down 400 MILLION to cover LIV is so hysterically based 😂
Real easy to say you would never take the money when the money is never offered to you.
KVV saying he'd turn down the hundreds of millions....HA
15:34 KVV that already happened on Fox.
Where does Soly's "no LIV inside the top 30 SG" come from? Would like to see receipts. Seems crazy. If SG is simply to the field for LIV, then it is a zero sum game and LIV player must be in the top 30 as they are only competing against themselves. What am I missing? If you point to majors, their records has been quite good. Again, what am I missing?
Are you backing DataGolf? Recognize that they rank Zalatoris above Koepka, Gooch, Reed, English and DJ after not playing all year and coming last by a mile @ Hero.
Love Zalatoris and love the pod. But Soly need take a break as he's dragging the team down. Finding any finger hold that nobody good plays on LIV.
Leave Soly to interview external guests and leave the rest of the crew to do rest. It's exhausting. (all respect given.
No tourist sauce this yr. A bummer
Jon is going to look great in shorts.
Dude has the meatiest ankles guaranteed
TC with the Tate's and Tum's on the office shelf. He's thriving.
It is so beautiful to see you guys finally having to come around. LIV golf has just as much of chance if not better to win more majors than PGA guys this year, and you still call it not serious golf. Hysterical
If all the every top golfers in the world all joined LIV I still wouldn’t watch it.
Blah blah blah😅😅😅😅
Sick greedy players
And if someone said to you I'll change your life with a whole heap of money you would say no it's blood money not for me you're a joke
@@seanmawson6286 How does a heap of money change the life of someone who already has more money than he could ever spend?
@@seanmawson6286 you must be an American Biden sellout
After a pretty enjoyable fall with the Ryder Cup (at least from a European perspective) and some great and emotional moments on the PGA Tour like the victories of Villegas, Van Rooyen and Aberg, we are now back on the path of destruction. It just flat out sucks.
There was no Ryder Cup this year just an exhibition between PGA and DPWorld tour
This never happens if Monahan is fired after he blindsided the Tour players.
Might as well call June 6th like the historical event & the numbering they did: It’s PIF-Day 185
Denial is a hell of a drug.
Randy your hair looks great!
The NBA play in tournament is the jam this year! PGwho?
Golf fans around the World is enjoying the top players in the world coming to their countries. PGAT have to focus on America & US Born players. The players going to LIV now are mostly Foreign players anyway. LIV is going to replace the old European tour in a Bigger way, going around the World.
typical American, Did you know LIV grew the game in Australia where it just sold out in 3 days when tour is not played until April 2024. And what about Monahan and the things he said should he be able to back out' if PGAT was so good how come 14 out of 24 PGAT major players are now with LIV. 3 of the past 5 major winners and 7 of the last 14. It is great for America to get the major players each week and the rest of the world including Australia who had to pay millions just for Tiger and Rory to appear, Now they get 14 major winners without cost. yes unknown to you liv is growing the game outside of America.
Take the NBA's IST as an example. Nobody is watching it for the crazy courts. No one has said they like it because the players will get 500k. The reason why it has been such a success is because the games have been compelling and the competitive nature of the games have been ramped up. Fans and casuals want to see excellence at the highest levels of any sport. The best players in the world playing against each other when its clear the players are giving it their all, that is what brings eyeballs. Golf has a theatrical advantage, given how natural entertaining drama is manufactured through the game itself. Tiger brought so many eyeballs because of how good he was, not because he was so rich.
The adults in the room comment😂😂 howd that work for the white house lol
Rahm is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.
Haha you guys and your PGA talking points...
Jay blew it when he tried to partner. That was D Day.
Yep. The guys that supported the PGA tour felt double crossed with his 180 degree turn to LIV. So why not say screw you PGAT and take the money? I hate the LIV tour for what its worth but don't blame Rahm.
It’s probably hard for the average person to watch golf when it’s pounded into their brain that the best golfer is determined by total number of majors won. Why would they watch normal tour events, they don’t matter? Seems like most golfers would rather play golf than watch golf.
They didn't want to go private equity they would have to show the books
Just because this (and all the other LIV defections) negatively impacts the PGA tour, it doesn't have to negatively impact golf as a whole. The Tour is not golf, we are. The existence of LIV isnt necessarily a bad thing for golf. If you give it a chance, LIV could create a greater audience for professional golf around the world. If you recall the WWF (Now WWE) entered into a broken pro wrestling environment by buying up all the talent. At first the talent leaving were considered defectors, but in the end the bigger stage and vast sums of money created something unachievable prior to. LIV may bring the same enhancement to golf.
June 6th is my Jan 6th
December 7th already has pivotal historical meaning DJ lol read a book! Jokes... Love what you guys do.
The people watch everywhere than in the united states presumably because the pga was started there. ❤❤❤
Charlie woods and TH-cam is the future.
Soly, "going back to that time period, the Khashoggi stuff was very recent" ..... he was murdered in 2018, LIV wasn't a serious conversation for at least 3 years afterwards. Sportwashing wasn't really being talked about when Jay wouldn't take PIF's calls, and the whole 'blood money' concept wasn't spoken about until well after moves had already been made. Are you really suggesting Jay didn't take those early calls because of Khashoggi? That's a bit of revisionist history isn't it?
Liv is fast n over n done.
Majors only for me or highlights, it's only the last few holes that count usually and I'm not paying for it
God that cheesy black jacket they made Rahm wear
Yeah,,,,,PGAT could never have cool apparel
Best piece of information in this video is that Soly's wife was a UF Dazzler...Go Gators!
Jon Rahm is Officer Rod Farva from Super Troopers…gone to the Spurbury Police force
I think LIV Golf has credited a lot of overinflated egos. Jon Rahm got 566M to run away. 302 M upfront and the rest in signing bonus that is according to the SBJ and Wall Street Journal. That makes Jon the most richest athelete of 2023. Did he really want to run away or was LIV just FINALLY desperate cause of the fact that his deal is no where to be done. I remember when that league first formed a couple of years ago, Jon offered 300M to join but didnt happen.
Why is the Head coach of the University of Florida sitting on the far right of the stage?
So weird Rahm took 600m to play golf with his mates…
Yea the majors aren't run by the pga
WAKE UP TO REALITY
Can't wait for LNU to be gone
Look guys, you backed the wrong horse. The cope after Koepka winning a major last year not being a win for LIV pales into comparison over the cope about Rahm joining LIV not being a win for LIV
Keep laughing at LIV . Keep going guys. Time for the pga tour to be crushed. They do not own the game and they’ve behaved as if they had a complete monopoly. Golf is a global game and I look forward to welcoming a liv event in Spain.
Amazing the NLU guys all thought LIV was going away after 6/6 and even after today still don't fully acknowledge what's going on. That's to to say I agree with it all but I wouldn't estimate how deep their pockets are.
Spieth? What are you talking about? Get out of your bubble. Spieth has been "just a guy" for 6 years and counting. Will do nothing going forward. Outside of the US NGAF about Spieth or JT. It's painful that you think these guys are relevant.
There is only about 25 guys that legit have shot to win on tour every week before LIV was even a thing. The other 125 guys are just there to fill the field. Its been that way since Jack and Arnie started the tour and its the same today. It was always going to come to a separate tour of the worlds best 40-50 players and everyone else doesn’t matter. Jack, Tiger, Brooks, Rory they all say the same thing about the tour field.
Actually, tour history proves more than 25 guys win every week. Typically there are 4 to 6 first winners in any given season, this past I believe there were 10 to 12 first-time winners. Every great player has to start with their first win.. But I agree let the players play wherever they want. Because to to lose the PGA tour means to lose LPGA, Champions Tour, and Korn Ferry tour, which all owned and run by the PGA tour.
Have you ever watched any Golf?
All of this going into a recession !
Hitching a ride to Tiger who plays if he’s lucky 5 times a year is a flawed thought and hope he saves the tour. Spieth is popular but has been irrelevant for years now.
Where is Tim Finchem when you need him?
would it be such a bad thing for golf to go to the tennis model where people 98% only care about majors?
I’m more interested in TH-cam golf than pro golf lmao
The PGA brought it on by themselves.
KVV please abandon the use of “sort of.”
Jay got spun like a top
I’m sure 600M will give you clarity in life, good for Jon.
Mama needed new shoes
All these cats are talking about players leaving PGAT of America. PGAT is not global tour, it’s American tour played 90% of its Tournaments in US. Just focus & promote the US players & the tournaments.
Negotiating 101 400 million isn’t going to change his life… never said 600 million.✅
I'm SO over professional golf. Thank goodness for your channel and some of the other TH-cam golf channels. I'd much rather watch one of your travel/golf round videos than the pros these days.
Just a thought…
Active @PGATOUR players with multiple majors (excluding TW):
Rory (4) + Jordan (3) + Collin (2) + JT (2) = 11
Active @livgolf_league players:
Phil (6) + Brooks (5) + Bubba (2) + Kaymer (2) + DJ (2) + Rahm (2) = 19
Door now wide open for VH, SS, CM, TK?🤪
KVV is right. All this makes me apathetic. I’ll just watch the majors
You wouldn't have done this? No f'ing way. You would be insane not to. LIV is the future, PGA is the past. PGA is a mill and that's the way those that control the PGA behind the scenes want it to be. Do you as a fan want to watch Rahm in snippets here and there and maybe once in a while you see him when he's leading a tournament? Not me, no f'ing way. PGA is done unless they adjust.
You lot have been wrong about everything lol hey you told the world the agreement with PIF means liv is dead and Greg norman is gone and Jay Monahan has control over everything
I'm loosing my interest in professional golf. I'll most likely only watch the majors now.
Did Rahm looking out for his and his family's best interest affect how anyone else swings the clubs? Does it affect how well any golfer plays in a tournament ? Does it affect endorsements for any golfer? No, no, and no. Does it affect the monopoly the PGA has had on professional golf for far too long? Damn straight it does, and that's a GOOD thing.
You guys just don’t get it LIV is the big dog. All of the other tours including PGA are just feeder tours to play in LIV. Keep hanging on to PGA and lose your future. Jump to LIV while you can
I’m kinda done. More focus is needed on the alienation of the fan. The true golf fan is repulsed by this process that is centered on individual profit at ungodly numbers. The truly engaged fan who watches the sport and follows outlets like NLU, feel completely discarded as the sport they love is being dismantled for the benefit of a few. There may be a unification down the road, but there may be less fans watching. It is very possible this whole thing becomes an “own goal”.
HIRE NLU BOYS FOR PGA PRESIDENTS
Why do you think , we are all don't like Liv??? Bunch of men that can't see the future
Are they falling off or less motivated because the money isn’t a motivator any more.
Let me know if u were offered a lot of money to change ur format wouldn't u do it that a ton of money
Gutted I’ll only see Rahmbo 4 times a year 😢
THAT is YOUR problem
33:13 this sequence pissed me off. Sorry boys. I guess I’ll watch the other tours if it’s 75 players who can’t lose their spot.
Are you a literal Mule?
Fsp pga
lol. Imagine covering Rahm heading to LIV and one of your serious questions is: Does LIV continue past September 2024?
Bahahhahaha
As someone who just got into golf this year…this isn’t helping. I want to watch golf. I want to see the best players every weekend but the commercial load and media rights being everywhere make it difficult to give a shit and I’m real deep since it’s my new thing. It’s hard to consume. I want to consume as much as possible but can’t. The app is terrible. TC’s hoodie is inside out. I don’t care that rahm left as I didn’t really like him from what I’ve seen this year. I want to see my favorite players and he wasn’t one of them. Much like the distance debate that doesn’t affect me, I didn’t watch him when he was featured and I won’t watch LIV now because he is there. If Max, JT and Jordan go I’ll watch. Make an app like F1. Let me pay money willingly to watch who i want to watch. The whole round. Every round they play. I already do that for F1 and the NHL. I’ll do it for golf.
I use to big a huge fan and watch but now I just stick to TH-cam golf, way better
This all is just soooooo lame. Rahm sold out. End of story. LIV aint growing the game. The team aspect IS NOT good for golf. He does not have to provide anymore for his family. He. sold. out. Lame that he says anything else. Have fun at the LIV frat parties Rahm. See ya at the majors.