Just Jimny Tyre Comparison Test
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- In this episode we take 5 Jimnies with different tyre brands and we put them to the test. Keep watching to the end there may be a surprise :)
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The quality of your analysis in a number of videos has no parallel in either the Jimny community or any other 4x4 group for that matter. You must have put in a vast amount of research and homework to make these videos. Please don't stop, but carry on making them - your effort is sincerely appreciated.
Hi Casper thank you for the feedback , I try and do research on topics I am not familiar with , and I have about 10years of experience with Jimnies and 4x4.
@@justjimny your channel is indeed a gem for jimny owners across the globe. Cheers from Brazil!
Hello from Russia! In January I bought myself a Jimny)) We still have winter, so I use winter tires and choose summer tires. You Tube released your video just in time)) Guys - you are great! I found everything I needed in one video. Success in channel development. And just happiness)
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Thank you so much for the feedback and support.👍
I was surprised at the weight difference of the other tyres from a standard one that will be a lot of extra rolling road resistance/momentum on the highway, we get the Bridgestone dueller 195/80/15 as standard in the UK which has the same 80/20 on/off road usage as the Dunlop Grandtrek. Great test and results to help when picking tyres for the Jimny. It may be worth doing the test again when the weather is a bit wet, I would assume that the more aggressive AT tyres will outshine the standard tyre plus they will have better side wall protection. For me personally I will keep to the standard tyre and consider an AT when they need changing, I only do occasional mild off roading at a dedicated 4x4 centre and the standard tyres are more than capable. Thanks for posting the great Jimny videos..
Very glad you enjoyed the video , we will definitely do another tyre test some time , hopefully with some support from tyre vendors and different brands and then we can do tar and off-road road tests in different conditions as well. Thanks for the support
TBH I didn't feel any difference going HT -> AT. But then going AT -> MT felt like a completely different vehicle!
Great Review, Thank very much. With the feedback i am opting for Yokohoma Geolander ditching conti AT
Have fun!
Die dag was Amazing ek het regtig nuwe respek vir die kar gekry😎Dankie oom
Baie bly julle het dit geniet , en baie dankie vir al die hulp👍
Thank you for sharing this video, we are still waiting for our Jimny, hopefully it'll arrive soon before Christmas lol. I am considering replacing the tyre size into 215/75R15 cause they look great plus I heard it doesn't rub underneath, so it's good as it is.
215/75R15 is the perfect replacement size , works 100% with stock suspension , also have a look at our suspension test videos for a few tips. Thanks for the support and hope you get your jimny soon👍
Hi!! is it possible to put 225/75/15 inch tyres on the Jimmy...with the stock alloys and without modification to suspension ??.... or one needs to use a lift kit....?!
Regards
Good comparison. pity no one with Good Year Wranglers Adventure All terrains was there. as it is a very popular tire in the jimny community as well.
Yes unfortunetly the Goodyear Wrangler guys where busy somewhere else😂
Thanks for the video. Just a question: what pressure for normal road use on 215/80 tyres? I have the Goodyear Wrangler Adventures.
Hi , depending on extras and load 1.8 - 2.0 bar. Play around between those pressures to see which one works best for you.
Great comparison! thanks. But personally I think it should all be done by the same driver.
It's hard to know like that if the tire is the deciding factor for better grip (in some instances) or the driver skill
Hi thanks for the comment , we did mention that fact in the end of the video , and to be truly scientific , we actually need to use same car , driver and just swop out tyres, but we will need some support to be able to do a test like that. This is probally the first tyre test video availible on youtube , should also show how difficult it is to put something like this together.
@@justjimny of course. I appriciate your effort regardless. Still a very valuable video!
Great video, thanks! What is your opinion and advice on adding wheel spacers to BF 215/80R15, apart from looks, will it make a difference for on road driving especially wet weather?
I never reccomend wheelspacers , since they need to be maintained very well , unless you want to lose a wheel while driving. They do provide more stability , but need to be the right type and be checked often. The BFS are very tough tyres , mine has 60k km on now and still going strong , just note they are very slippery on wet roads , so take it very easy in rainy conditions.
@@justjimny Thank you for the reply. This is very valuable & spacers are now off my list 😉 I am now seriously considering the Tough Dog suspension upgrade… 👍🏻
@@adelle.nothnagel The Tough Dog is really good value for money , mine has been in for 60k km , and I had no issues with it. Maybe think about fitting 215/75R15 tyres instead of 215/80R15 , its going to help with fuel consumption and performance , you really need to go extreme off road to justify that size tyre👍
@@justjimny Thank you for the advice. I will be using the Jimny everyday for highway commute, weekend gravel and occasional sand & a bit more serious offroad…I want the best stability, fuel consumption & pack weight for my needs…and then aesthetics also fits in there somewhere…just because 😁
Great video. What A/T tyre would you recommend if you are looking at decent wet conditions as well. The KO2 seams perfect in all aspects except for this. My wife drives the Jimny a lot as well and I don't want to give her slick tyres in the wet. I was looking at the General Grabbers but it doesn't look like they are very durable.
See if you can get some Maxxis AT tyres or some Wranglers , they are still tough and has better handeling in the wet.
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Great vid cheers 🍻
Thanks for the support👍
Hi Raymond, thanks for the excellent and highly detailed videos! Best on the Jimny that I have seen by far. I am in White River and also have BFG K02s on my 2020 Jimny. I just want to confirm, do you run your K02s at 2 bar all round on the road? What pressures do you suggest for offroading? Regards Rian.
Hi Rian , thanks we try our best on these videos😄. On your question I run 2 bar for daily driving , 1 - 0.8 for gravel roads depending on load , the for trails it depends on terrain 0.8 - 0.6 for thick sand or mud. The stronger sidewalls on the KO2's also helps that the tyre doesnt debead to easy at lower pressures.
Very informative video. Thanks.
Suzuki has launched the 5-door Jimny in India and I’ve booked the top-end automatic variant (Alpha AT). It has alloy wheels shod with 195/80R15 tyres.
When I get the delivery of my Jimny, I want to upgrade its tyre size. I want to do so without changing the rims and I want to go for a tyre size that does not rub anywhere inside the wheel well. In that case, the most popular tyre upgrade option seems to be 215/75R15. This tyre size is wider and taller than the stock one and it doesn’t rub anywhere.
However, I think 225/70R15 would be an even better fit because its height is much closer to the stock size, which has a few benefits (correct speed on speedometer, etcetera). Plus, it is wider. So, more grip and better looks. But I don’t know if the stock rims can accommodate tyres with 225 width or not. Do they? Or would 225s be too wide for the stock rims? Any idea?
I know there are very limited tyre models in 225/70R15 size but Apollo Apterra AT2 looks good to me for my use case and it is available in my country. So, limited tyre options is not an issue for me. All I want is a tyre that is as close in terms of height to the stock tyre while being as wide as the stock rim can accommodate.
Any suggestions?
The 225s and 215s fit on the stock rims and doez not rub anywhere on the stock suspension , on tyre brands I can not comment since I dont know the brands you have availible in your country , but a good AT works well for onroad and off road , and if you want to do a bit more off road look at a MT mud terrain.
Great choice, i have also booked my jimny alpha at, looking for best tyre option, ive also narrowed down 215 bfg ko2, someone suggested 235 as well, treadntails youtube channel. M sceptical though
I hear Bridgestone make a Dueler AT in a 205/70/15. Thoughts on this size if you want to keep the car as close to standard?
That size should work well , my only thing is you dont gain any ground clearance with the 70 profile , 215/75R15 will still be my go to size , adds a bit extra clearance and the wider tyre a bit more grip , without performance loss.
If u check the tyre calculator 205 70 15 is out of the recommended difference to stock. However if u use the 205 75 15 it is very close, only 0.68% difference. The closest to standard is 225 70 15 which is only 0.43% out
.....are these with auto or manual gear??....brilliant video...i like this cream color
We had one Auto (Derek's) as part of the test the rest where manual.
Hi Raymond .
Body roll is a problem on the new Jimny .
What fo you recommend to reduce it ?
Thanks
Hi Jean-Luc , fitting a decent suspension improves that alot , Tough Dog , OME , Iron Man. The stock suspension is really soft and bottoms out easy as well.
@@justjimny Thanks Raymond
What cable plugs into the head unit to accommodate the reverse camera?
You can make contact with Werner Wentzel on facebook he has premade cables to add the reverse camera , he is very active on the South African Jimny Facebook pages
Which Hankook Dynapro tyre was featured? AT-M or AT-2? Is a 215/80/15 worth a look. How about the Dunlop SP Trakgrip in 215/80/15? My main issue is a good safe, drive on tar during the week. Offroad still relatively tame but getting more adventurous. I am still 70:30 tar to offroad
Thanks for the best Jimny advice on YT!
Hi John thanks for the support. The Hankooks where the AT , the 215/80R15 does steal a bit of your performance and is heavier on petrol , and your only benefit is your diff is a few mm higher off the ground , I still prefer 215/75R15 tyres since they dont impact performance and consumption that much. I have not had a look at the Dunlops you mentioned , but I can say that Maxxis has a few good options availible.
Can you make a video on 5 door jimny.. and what all mods will still fit the new jimny in india
I think the 5 door will only launch in South Africa in May or June 2023 , but most of the mods for the 3 door will fit on the 5 door.
Hi which tyres should I put on for 80/20 road to offroad. I have just done the Tough Dog 40mm lift. Just looks like it needs bigger tyres now. Mostly need good onroad ride very little hectic off road....quit alot of dirt road/track. Clueless
Have a look at Maxxis and the Good year wranglers , also have a look at our BF Goodrich tyre review.
Looking at Ordering mine Soon,, Decided to go with Nudge bar instead of Bullbar to save Weight ,,What is the Name of the one in Video pls at 10:45 ..Thanks
Hi Paul , at 10:45 , thats Derek in his auto jimny , please note that the nudgebar is not recommended since it takes away from your approach angle and will actually not help with anything off road or on road , rather spend that money on radial cup protectors. Derek also had the diff protectors from Suzuki fitted and those made his ground clearance worse than a standard jimny on stock suspension. So dont just fit extras because they are availible , watch the whole videos on my channel theres loads of information like this.
Hello is it possible to do the same test but just auto vs manual
We actually did have an auto there , Derek drove the auto , so we did cover auto vs manual. Thanks for the comment and support.👍
Hi..nice video 👍.. how about with size 235/75 R15 ?
235 is not very popular in South Africa , and most owners that fit them use their Jimnies more offroad than as daily commuters and overlanders. I should maybe do a size differance test between 235 and 215. Thanks for the support👍
Hi Again, Its not easy to find 215/80 R15 but we have 225/75 R15. What do you think about 225/75 R15 AT? Do you think it will fit in stock rim and suspension without any problem for offroad?
Thanks a lot.
Hi Raul , I have not tested the 225/75R15 , since the 235/75R15 just catches the bumpers when flexing and full lock turning , I think the 225/75R15 will work with the standard suspension and rims without any issues👍
@@justjimny Thank you very much for the prompt reply. Helps a lot for making the right choice.
Hello. Does 215/80r15 fit in the jimny without any modification?
Hi Andre , yes that size fits without any problems , and the 80 profile works really well on 4x4 trails , since it just lifts the diffs a bit higher from the ground.Thanks for the comment.
Hello from India 🙏🏽
Great videos you make ! I have a question for your feedback. In India we do not get BFGoodrich, instead we have the option of YOKOHAMA GEOLANDER AT 215/75R15. What are your honest thoughts on this model Yokohama Geolander AT ? Thank you in advance 🙏🏽
Yokohama Geolanders are great tyres , in ZA they are a bit expensive , and they dont have the correct sizes for Jimnies. Other brands that are also very popular around the world , Kenda & Maxxis.
@@justjimny Thank you for sharing your expertise and experience with all of us ! 🙏🏽
Hi guys!! Beautifull video!!!!
an information please.... it is possible 215/80/15 tyres and wheel spacer 30mm with original Jimny? Sorry my english 😅.
Thanks!!!
Hi Francesco , the 215/80r15 should work fine with standard suspension 👍.
@@justjimny thank you very much ... I mean by adding wheel spacer with original lift.
Wheel spacer 30mm + 215/80/15
@@frenkyfrenkox yes I understand , with the 30mm spacers it will still work fine👍
@@justjimny thanks 🙂
Is 215- 75R - 15 fits with out cutting bumper and lifting suspension? Thanks
Yes no cutting or suspension lift required.
Hi guys, I’m in SA. Where did Paul get his cables? I can find it, but only overseas, it would take forever to get here
You can send me your email , and I will put you in contact , with someone who has availible in SA👍
Hi. Which camera did you get?
Hi from spain, which is the awning of paul? The size is perfect for jimny. Thanks
Hi , I had a chat with Paul and he said him and one of his friends made the awning themself , I will see if I can get some more information and pics if you are interrested. Thanks for the support👍
I would like, thanks. I am looking for a small awning for jimny but every are big size. If you know small one tell me wich. Thanks. Another thing, what do you think for 31 tyres for jimny? Would i need a body lift kit?
@@edg9374 I will have a look at awnings , with 31inch tyres you will defenitly need a body lift , but a full suspension upgrade will be the best option , the 31's will take alot of power away , I would rather suggest 235/75/R15 tyres.
With 235/75/r15 will i need body lift or full suspension upgrade? Thank you very much
@@edg9374 just a body lift will work , but I would still suggest a decent full suspension kit , shocks , coils , extention hoses ,castor correction bushes and cross member relocation bracket. Much better handling on road and off road.
Amazing informative video.
Thank you , we work very hard to get this type of content to the Jimny community.
Bf goodrich all terrain, the best
Hello Mate ,
I am still confused with 215/75/ R15 vs 215/75or80 /R16 , r15 looks very small but , can others looks good without lift if needed I can get 2 inch lift
Hi Sumit , 215 is how wide the tyre is , 75/80 is the tyre profile height and the R15/R16 is the rim size. I would stick to the 15 inch rim size since you have more tyre to protect your rim from side impacts while off roading. Larger rims do give you more height from the ground but you might need a suspension lift to make shure they dont catch during flex. Normal 215/75R15 works without a suspension lift , but 235/75R15 at least need a 40mm suspension lift to not catch during flex. Here is a link to a website that you can play around with tyre sizes to see which size will suit your needs , with or without a lift.tiresize.com/comparison/. Use the 215 and 235 sizes as a guide to check your R16 rims and if you will need a suspension lift or not. Hope this helps you out👍
Please, man. Test 30x9,5 R15…
Best from Brazil. Keep it real
I will have a look around for somebody with that size tyre fitted and find out if they are willing to do a test.
@@justjimny thnx a lot
Love your videos, Great info, well presented. Friendly advice though, you need to include the ladies more, a lot of female off-roaders these days.
Hi Mark , I actually have training days and most of my clients are ladies , I will maybe do a video of one of these days.
Hi, informative video. Do I need a lift if I install 215/80 R15 A/T tire using stock rim? Thanks.
HI THE 215/80R15 fits on standard rims and suspension.👍
@@justjimny Thanks a lot!
@@justjimny I put 195/80/15 toyo open country plus and they are amazing, but now I am itching to put 215/80/15 toyos because of the extra clearance, I am just afraid of it affecting the gearing and power too much.
@@marijanspasenovski362 the 215s dont make such massive difference in performance , the only place where you will feel a differance is when you driving on the highway there it might feel a bit laggy , but not much.
@@justjimny Yeah, it's just that 80 profile that increases the diameter by a bit more compared to the 75
I think the results are skewed by having the tyre pressures at 2 bar. The bigger the tyre the lower the pressure you need to run. I would like to see the tests done with tyres at the appropriate road pressure for the tyre size. e.g. 1.8 bar for 195/80R15, 1.6 bar for 215/75R15, 1.5 bar for 215/80R15. This to me would give a more accurate representation of the tyres real capability. My feeling is that the tables will change significantly, and I think the stock size will then come stone last. It would also be nice to see a mud tyre in the mix.
Hi Vic , like I said we did the best with what we had available to truly do a test like this we will need a bit of support , but I still think this video shows that for normal everyday use and a bit of off-road use you should be able to make a better decision. We also saw that you can have a 80 profile tyre and with the Suzuki diff protectors made the ground clearance worse than a 100% standard Jimny. Guess thats why nobody has done a TH-cam video that tests tyres for any brand of car , believe me I searched hi and low and could not find anything.
Vorrei montare pneumatici 215/80r15 su cerchi e sospensioni originali ma ci stanno oppure toccano la carrozzeria?
The 215/80R15 tyres fit on stock suspension and rims , no problem👍
Stock stopping distance is still phenomenal tho
I think it can be improved by adding disk brakes to the rear as well , just not sure what impact it will have on the All Grip system.
Very interesting video. I am a European citizen living in Northern France. My Jimny is to be delivered erarly in march next. My usecase will be 70/30 on/off road. No trail but off the road in woods.forests mainly. Costwise I am trying to summarize all your observations and make decisions egarding tyres. I was considering ( at least for a start) keeping the same size of tyres ( Jimnys are delivered with steel rims and 195/80/15 DUNLOP). No rocks , but sticky mud mainly at least 6 months a year; and I was looking at Khumo tyres ( road venture KM71) which have a mud profile but are available in 195/80/15. Do you folks have these khumo tyres available in South Africa, and what would you think ?
Hi thanks for the support , the stock Dunlops are actually just for city driving , the Kumho tyres are not bad at all and will be a massive improvement on the stock tyres , you can also look out for 215/75R15 tyres great size and doesnt affect the jimny performance at all.
@@justjimny Many tks indeed for your prompt reply. I think I’ll go for Khumos then, but keeping the 195 size so I do not have to change the rims as I’ll be running on a budget :-). ( also need to have a winch fitted on the car as I happen to get stuck in the mud from time to time - I have HILUX as well, bu am looking for a smaller option when I just on on my own spend a week or two in the woods. But sure, I swap to 215 75 15 one day and have a ‘àmm lift on a full OME kit.
40mm lift ( sorry I have big fingers this morning and am mistype half of my words…)
@@sergepedros9798 Even going for the 215/75R15 you dont need to change the rims , and no need for suspension lift👍
@@justjimny Many thanks Raymond, you mean that the 15X5.5 rims are ok to receive the 215/75/15 tyres ? I was left with the idea that 15X6 rims were the minimum required for this size of tyres. If I can go straight for the 215s, then I’ll do. I’d like to change the suspension for comfort in highway driving. All together it’s quite a bunch of money over here, so I’ll have to proceed step by step…
How about 205/65r15 94h for Jimny?
If its a city run around , but not for offroad , you need to get your diffs higher of the ground for 4x4 trails.
Please let me know if when on road it is 100% recommended to be on 2 wheel drive rather than 4x4 ?
When on road do you recommend to be on 4x4 ? snow , rain and ice ?
On road on normal weather condition 4x4 rather than 2 wheel drive damages the car ?
Hi Jean-Luc , in our conditions in South Africa , I would never drive in 4x4 on tar roads , even when its raining , the transfercase builds up tension due to the fact that there is too much grip on the tyres and the cant spin free to release this tension in the transfercase. Snow in 4x4 should be fine since your tyres can spin easier to release the tension. I always engage 4x4 on gravel roads provides much better traction and handeling.
Fun vid. But seems to be more a test of drivers rather than tyres...
Did mention it at the end of the video , but doing it beter really requires a bit of support from the tyre dealers , I think the tyre weight , tread pattern measurement and tyre deformation was done right , and gave some surprising stats. If you can think about more tests that can be relevant please post them.
I love this video & love you sir from India
Thank you for the support👍
Well, I think the comparo is fair, the accessories of the modified ones are pretty much the standard ones that will be added after a suspension/tire upgrade. So more likely than not, the numbers you got are the real world numbers. Looks like the 215-75 is still the sweet spot.
I reccomend 215/75R15 as great all purpose size , good on fuel consumption , and great size for off road as well.
Has anyone tried the Apollo 225/70/15
Have not heard of any reviews
The very tyre i am about to order and try
Is this saying that the Grandtreks are the best tyre for the Jimny and I shouldn't change?
They where the best suited for the type of tests we did , and shows how much other tyres effect the Jimnies performance from stock. Would still go for an AT over the stock for my usecase👍. Have a look at Jimny accesories video for more information.
I just changed mine to BFG and it robbed like 30% of the performance. It stripped the fun right out of the car for road driving. I tried to swop back but my tyreshop said I must take a hike. Keep the OEM setup!! (Suppose depending on your usecase) but for mine (gravel, farm, town) I should have kept the stock tyres. I did it cause it looks cool 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@fvlok dang Fred! Thanks for this! I’ve been so tempted to change to bfgs because they look awesome!! I do go off-roading almost every weekend but I’ve never had an issue with the oem tires.
@@JohnLemon004 they only look good. With the stiff sidewalls you need to go down to 0.7 or even less bar. Stupid tyre for such a lightweight vehicle
@@JohnLemon004 No problem mate. It's back at the tyre shop this morning, those BF's wont balance. What a nightmare. Vehicle shakes itself apart at 110kmh. They using a special balancing machine now with more details (takes 45 mins per wheel, and also costs a lot more per wheel). The Tyremart guy tells me it's a thing that occur often on the Jimny, in fact they have another one there as well. The problem is the wheel is very heavy for the vehicle (4kg heavier than OEM) + the short wheel base + solid axles, so if it's even the slightest off (which you won't feel on a longer wheelbase vehicle) it shakes. It's a nightmare honestly. Consider the weight of the tyre if you do change tyres. My advice is to avoid this nightmare all together.
I just changed from the standard dunlops to BFG. Ugh man i am so disappointed with the loss of power. By my guestimate it feels like 30%? They took the fun out the jimny in town it’s a dog now 😢 Any mathematicians here that can calculate the impact of 21.1kg vs 17.1kg in relation to the weight and power of the vehicle?
Really Fred I hardy felt a differance , just search a google tyre calculator and you will see there almost no differance. A jimny needs revs to drive , its not a diesel donkey.
@@justjimny Nee ou. Iemand moet vir ons calculations doen. 4kg extra per wiel dink ek maak ‘n groot verskil?
@@fvlok Hier is dit tiresize.com/comparison/
@@justjimny Excellent dankie
My English is bad, but you have to bear in mind that for every extra kilo of tire weight you must add one bar of air, for example your old tires weigh nineteen kilos and new tires weigh twenty-three kilos, the difference between them is four kilos, if the old tire needs air in a scale Thirty three bars So you should put thirty seven bars of air in the new tire
how tall was that giant?
Can he fit inside the jimny?
curious because i am as tall as him
Hahaha , I am 1.95m and Francois is a bit taller I would say 1.98m. We both fit comfortably in the jimny seat all the way back.
Nice. I decided to keep my 4STYLE original anyway.
If you are not planning heavy off road or bad gravel travel , they should be ok👌
Вывод. Самые лучшие шины это те которые ставят на заводе Сузуки изначально )))
Привет, используя переводчик Google для этого, так что извините, если не получилось :) Не совсем верно, если вы внимательно посмотрите на препятствия, которые мы сделали, стандартная шина, вероятно, сделала худшее, шины с профилем 80 отлично справились с бездорожьем, потому что у вас больше клиренс. Спасибо за поддержку.
@@justjimny Простите я просто не до конца сформулировал свой вывод. У меня с завода Джимни с шинами 80-195-15 Бриджстоун Дуалер. Они практически такие же как Данлоп Гранд Трек. Ваши и другие тесты убедили меня, что не нужно стоковые шины менять БФ Гудрич. И так все работает отлично. Желаю развития вашему каналу и долгой жизни автомобилю !
большое спасибо
Hola ,yo llevo desde hace 20 años ya ,en diferentes modelos de suzuki jimny, ( versión anterior) varios juego de neumáticos bf goodrich all terrain..ahora acabo de comprar mi nuevo suzuki jimny pro, y ya de nuevo, le he cambiado los neumáticos de sèrie por los bf goodrich all terrain. Para mi ,és sin duda el mejor neumatico que hay ,siempre en medidas 215/75/15 Saludos desde Barcelona
I seriously need a translater
How so? Is our English that bad🤣
A lot of yr tests seem “scientific” but let’s face it your braking test would vary enormously depending on the skills of the different drivers. Not very useful really.
If you really want to get scientific , and watched to the end , the breaktest needed to be done with 1 car with differant tyres and same driver , but as mentioned at the end , we are doing this without any corporate support , and on our own dime , there are no other tests like this on youtube , because its so difficult to get it done.
Is 215- 75R - 15 fits with out cutting bumper and lifting suspension? Thanks
Yes