Very nice video! I am a descendant of the Ancient Greeks. Well, according to my DNA profile, I am 55% Greek. Spiritually and philosophically I am 110% Ancient Greek. Διογένης could have been my ancestor - who knows... Chuckle. I don't think an honest person begs. I would rather die than beg from any other. In this respect, Διογένης was wrong in his actions. Most humans are incorrigibly stupid and ignorant - especially those who fancy calling themselves mathematicians; they are amongst the most stupid I have ever encountered.
This is a bit late but Diogenes' name does not mean "The man from God". You're blending your Latin and your Greek, Diogenes is a greek name and so Dio does not mean God to them. It does in Latin, sure, but the first minute is not correct; ie "The man from God who acted like a Dog" is not true.
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Alexander the great: "If i were not to be Alexander, i wish to be Diogenes." Diogenes: "If i were not Diogenes i also wish to be Diogenes" Fookin savage
They still exist. In my city Breda(nl) there is "homeless poor beggar" who drink allot. I know he is neither homeless or poor. He is a former philosophy professor who is actually rich for Dutch standards. He has children who are successful and prosperous. He chooses his way of life to take as little and give everything. My father knew him and I when I have the time I engage him in conversation about everyday things. They do exist but not in the same ways
Most thinkers made or tried to make their philosophy their life. Diogenes made his life a philosophy. Sometimes expressions and motions of life can be much more impactful than written words.
Sounds more like an arrogant prick to me. Assuming the worst from people and engaging in open contempt based on his assumptions. Behaving like a man who deserves to get killed and then when someone actually wants him dead, he judges the man for it.
Diogenes opened the door to philosophy for me many years ago; in a childs book, of all things. I owe that man a lifetime of gratitude for helping me, through his examples, avoid a lifetime of complacently adhering to social norms.
Kendrick Jahn No you're right, but in the video he said "he was looking for a man" which didn't made sense. He also knocked on people's doors too saying the same, of course again holding this lantern.
Lots of stories. Alexander found Diogenes scratching through some bones and when Alexander asked Diogenes what he was doing said "I'm looking for the bones of your father but I can't tell them apart from the bones of slaves". Alexander said "If he were not Alexander he would be Diogenes" which shows that Alexander must have felt the burdens and obligations of office, cares of which Diogenes had none.
"Honest man" in the sense of "true man", real man", or "actual man", as opposed to a pretender. So, "honest" is redundant because "I am looking for a man" implies "true man", especially coming from someone like Diogenes.
I wish I believed anyone would agree on that. These days we write off free thinkers and contrarians as “edgelords” and go back to our willful drudgery.
@@Andrew-qc8jh he is not the same. If you take a look at the Monk life, even they will tell you the reason they are able to attain some spiritual mastery is there is a community supporting them. Monks are fed by society. Diogenes was fed by Diogenes.
@cheeseburgerinparadise7124 you are right in that in a lot of ways he is opposite of buddhist monks as they usually lean heavily on community and scripture. In hindu traditions you might see people lean more into a diogenes way of self-inquiry as Hinduism often states don't believe anything we say. Do the work and the truth will show but scripture is still pushed.
He is the greatest of all Greek philosophers. It is sufficient to know that he lived at the time when Alexander crossed half of the world reaching the northern frontiers of India.
The other famous interaction between Alexander and Diogenes was thus: one day Diogenes was looking through a pile of skeletons when Alexander came upon him and asked what he was doing. To which Diogenes replied “I was looking for your fathers bones, but I cannot tell them apart from slave bones.” Legend.
Another antedocte has Diogenes continuously hitting himself in the head with a hammer whereupon he was asked why he did so. To which Diogenes replied, "because it feels so good when I stop."
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Cynicism in other words is Taoism but savage. Also, thank you for actually explaining what Nietzsche meant with the lantern story. It's been bugging me for years.
Great stuff! Your videos are excellent! Right around the time of the Buddha and a lot of similarities to the Buddhist teaching. The Buddha took it a step further and developed a clear path that anyone could follow if they so desired. It would be great to see you do a video on the Buddha!
You missed the golden line after Diogenes ask Alexander to step out of his sun. Alexander: If I were not Alexander, I would want to be Diogenes! Diogenes: If I were not Diogenes, I too would want to be Diogenes!
Life's a scrum, being one of these guys, or debating society in his favor. The most poignant points about Diogenes is his cavalier attitude to Alexander - his actions spoke for his true state of mind, his commitment. He wasn't faking(!) and wasn't nostalgiac or romantic. Same for Alexander - two strong people meeting each other.
I have never laughed so hard watching a video. wow, he was the stand-up philosopher. Thank you for the wonderful enlightenment and truth, Excellent narration. It is great to practice enjoying nature naturally,
You know one irony I take from this, is the very things which have become part of Diogenes' legend -- pissing on people who mock him, living where he pleases, living as a beggar yet showing contempt for the mindless masses, and caring not one bit for the race for money or status -- we look down on homeless people for or consider them mentally ill, when if they'd been born a thousand years ago would have made them great philosophers.
Whoa wait. Diogenes of Sinope, a misanthrope?! A close reading of Diogenes Laertius' Lives of Eminent Philosophers chronicles that Diogenes was tutor of children and men. Diogenes' disgust of men and women was directed at gluttons, perverts, and manipulators. Diogenes gave credit to those focused on noble projects in life, such as studying philosophy.
I’m just now learning of this man and I’ve come to these same feelings and thoughts beforehand such as human beings are being corrupted by an over complicated set of societal systems and norms and living closer to nature than anything else, it’s so reassuring to learn of an ancient philosopher who shares my discoveries
Another good line from diogenes is when he was looking at a bunch of bones and said that he couldn't tell a difference from peasants bones with royal bones lol
I think this reason of pain increasing pleasure is why people become less happy the more advanced we become. It becomes harder to find hardship in the modern world than it is to find comfort.
If I were Diogenes, I'd probably find a way to reply with piss for your comment. But since I'm not, let's give it a try. By begging, Diogenes, proved to the fools around him(throughout time) that you can be spiritually self-sufficient, contempt and happy, even when you rely for your survival on the good will of others and their food offerings while being one of most irritating persons alive. Contrary to what you might believe, accepting is more difficult than giving. By truly accepting something offered that you need, you feel gratitude and you agree on being willing to offer the analogous thing to someone else when needed. So accepting is a prerequisite of offering. "Taking" on the other hand(as in getting something that you feel should be rightfully yours/or you deserve it) is a lot more common, and it is a declaration that you are not inclined to offer something analogous,selflessly to someone else. Accepting equals moral debt(not essentially towards the giver), taking equals personal debt towards someone(and not always). Sometimes, when one wants to help someone with something(noble cause), even if he doesn't want to do it for a reward which is many times the case (because some things are priceless and you never want to devalue them by giving them a value), he might give the opportunity to the individual to give something back(mostly of very low value), so as to appear as there is no personal debt left. In this case, Diogenes accepted the offerings as a beggar, so as the whole society would not owe him anything. He should be treated as a king because of the potential good he could offer, and yet he was content with a piece of bread dependent on the good will of others.
It was more than this, Diogenes was political and with opinion about the surroundings, not just a self-sufficient beggar, if you have this thought then perhaps the youtube videos do not portray accurately. He would comment on things happening around. But not give a fuck. For example he lived in the pot and didn't give a fuck. And For example when the whole city of Corinth was preparing for Alexander the greats attack and would run up and down to make preparations and perhaps they were also angry that he wasn't doing anything, Diogenes would get up and start rolling-pushing the big ceramic pot house around the city up and down to also be active and do stuff!
Those who are not satisfied and live their life craving for money, pleasure, status, social approval are the real beggars, always begging for more and more and at the end they're gonna die. Their life is pathetic. Diogenes doesn't need nor desire anything.
Nature provides you with everything you need to survive. But nowadays thanks to society it’s almost always illegal to take whatnature has to offer. Youhave to pay for it and therefore money is rightfully the originof all evil
+Mihai Balint not when you are your own authority you can then act for yourself, you are then a free and independent individual. Or you can rely on someone or something that will likely not be there when you actually need, and if you are in need of something for your very being you are its slave and it is the master. So yeah authority is BS.
@@Donbd83 no one can be 100% free and independent,the fact that you are using a device built by others to communicate with us and wearing clothes knitted by other people etc further proves that
@@cv4809 Define you definition of freedom, did I have a choice to buy this computer? Do I have a choice on what I choose to wear? When I state one is free and independent I mean in thought and in action and is responsible for their own actions and safety, who else ever could be but the one always in the scenario, to rely on another to give me something is folly or to expect it is owed is folly, to offer an equivalent of ones work in exchange for the work of another is not folly nor wrong, their is no coercion taking place, there is no confliction or contradiction of ethics take place just equivalent exchange, this is not the case with the state it makes a mockery of ethics. See you like Nietzsche, me to here is a personal favorite of mine. “A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people." It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life. Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them. Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.”
Carlin is no where near the caliber of Diogenes.Unlike Carlin, Diogenes applied what he preached. Carlin is just a famous comedian that appeals to the zombified masses who bath in entertainment. Diogenes would walk in after his performance and decipher the real George Carlin.
@@florianpeter7045 That's how I feel man, I feel like everyone in society is insane and that I'm the only sane person. But to society I'm considered the one to be crazy.
Good presentation that bears much re-watch! The identification between Cynics and dogs ("kynikes") speaks a lot. Supposedly according to Diogenes, dogs live the ideal life: living day to day directly in nature, without property, self-sufficient yet social, good-humored and playful, without any shame about the physical body (from crapping to making love in public), obeying no authority they haven't chosen for themselves. And as you make a list of the virtues he championed, it sounds 90% like general Native American philosophy.
I see many comments referring to people in the modern world who act like Diogenes when in reality, “The Cynic” was much more than what he appears to be, despite the stories of his irrational behaviors. The difference between someone like Diogenes and your average rambling homeless man is that Diogenes did not abuse drugs, previously had wealth yet abandoned it, and was fully aware of his actions and decisions in life, whereas your average homeless man on the streets is on various substances, has never been wealthy, does no sort of pondering, and is unsure about himself and the world around him.
@Ellisar Atranimus thats what is messed up with punk !! saying you're a 'punk' is making you ''not a punk' it s a culture but the culture is about not having culture ....
“Motion has to exist, what else do you call it?” “No, everything is stationary for all you know, we only perceive motion with the senses, it has no objective measurement.” “What say you Diogenes?” Diogenes: **LEAVES**
It takes more then just intelligence to see beyond your own conditioning of thoughts and see beyond the cultural illusions. Takes guts to believe in yourself and show your true self, and the best thing is that people will admire and be drawn to that authenticity.
In today's modern, civilised world he would either be on prison, a mental hospital or shot by the police or beaton to death by the sheep. Agree with a lot of his ideas and I still think they are as relevant today as they were thousands of years ago.
Diogenes = A mix of hyper minimalism and narcissism. And a mix of rasjonalism/zen and madness. The perfect illusjon of " perfect self sufficiency". In reality if you need to beg for food you are 100% addicted to the civilisasjon. We can all strive for self sufficiency, but reality is that in modern life the separasjon of tasks in industry and in civilisasjon is what we are all dependent on. And from we are born, humans are dependent on the parents to live. People like this is a great reminder, that it is indeed possible to live life in alot of different ways. And that we as humans are in a paradoxical way dependent yet at the same time independent.
Amazing Video, I just downloaded it because of the Simplicity of his mind a person can get far more than someone bathing in wealth. Keep videos about these philosophers coming, I will check them out.
Renzo Arana I grew up in a lottery winning family White House fence with Griswald family Christmas's. It was all for show they all can't speak to each other without fighting and none have found happiness in money. I learned everything from my grandmother but no-one listened. It's not the money that brought her happiness. Our mind creates everything we will only be as happy when we're wealthy as the happiness we have now before we accumulate wealth. Best of luck to you in life good sir
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Very nice video! I am a descendant of the Ancient Greeks. Well, according to my DNA profile, I am 55% Greek. Spiritually and philosophically I am 110% Ancient Greek.
Διογένης could have been my ancestor - who knows... Chuckle.
I don't think an honest person begs. I would rather die than beg from any other. In this respect, Διογένης was wrong in his actions.
Most humans are incorrigibly stupid and ignorant - especially those who fancy calling themselves mathematicians; they are amongst the most stupid I have ever encountered.
This is a bit late but Diogenes' name does not mean "The man from God".
You're blending your Latin and your Greek, Diogenes is a greek name and so Dio does not mean God to them. It does in Latin, sure, but the first minute is not correct; ie "The man from God who acted like a Dog" is not true.
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Alexander the great: "If i were not to be Alexander, i wish to be Diogenes."
Diogenes: "If i were not Diogenes i also wish to be Diogenes"
Fookin savage
Hahahahaha
Mad lad!
When Alexander asked Diogenes what he wants, he told him that to step away from blocking the sun.
Fringes stip away from me fookin son
Which part of Canada is the narrator from? Just curious. Great video. Thumbs up.
I'm actually quite content knowing that such a man existed. What pleasure!
Is this like how you actually talk or?
Misanthropic
Probably a trip to watch but probably not someone you would want tearing you down.
They still exist. In my city Breda(nl) there is "homeless poor beggar" who drink allot. I know he is neither homeless or poor. He is a former philosophy professor who is actually rich for Dutch standards. He has children who are successful and prosperous. He chooses his way of life to take as little and give everything. My father knew him and I when I have the time I engage him in conversation about everyday things.
They do exist but not in the same ways
@@Rasaevireyup we DO exist
Most thinkers made or tried to make their philosophy their life. Diogenes made his life a philosophy. Sometimes expressions and motions of life can be much more impactful than written words.
Kaiser Rino There Called no it all’s Ego can’t tell them anything. Lol
Shuddup
Too bad his philosophy was dog sh.t
I like this guy Diogenes, takes courage to live like that.
Vee during that time period, immense courage
But also immense understanding and wisdom, with a little bit of luck.
Sounds more like an arrogant prick to me. Assuming the worst from people and engaging in open contempt based on his assumptions. Behaving like a man who deserves to get killed and then when someone actually wants him dead, he judges the man for it.
@@primevalblades6984 except that cynics are arrogants who think they're better then everyone else
@@pacolypps2370 Strange question, I don't see the relevance.
:The goal of evolution is to create a creature who can lean back, look up into the stars, and....laugh!"
~ Nietzsche
That actually sounds beautiful
@Minimalist Honkler that h...
Do you know where this quote is from? I couldn’t find it - really love it so wanted to see there was a book he mentioned this in?
@Ellisar Atranimus thats their problem
evolution is blind. That doesnt really sound like something Nietzsche would have said bc it presupposes a purposeful universe.
child: 'look mom, a homeless beggar!'
Diogenes: 'I govern men!
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We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less.
Diogenes
Diogenes opened the door to philosophy for me many years ago; in a childs book, of all things. I owe that man a lifetime of gratitude for helping me, through his examples, avoid a lifetime of complacently adhering to social norms.
We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less.
Diogenes
Absolute non conformist, a true hero of all times.
Am I mistaken or didn't Diogenes walk through the town with a lantern in daylight proclaiming, "I am looking for an 'honest' man?"
Kendrick Jahn No you're right, but in the video he said "he was looking for a man" which didn't made sense. He also knocked on people's doors too saying the same, of course again holding this lantern.
Lots of stories. Alexander found Diogenes scratching through some bones and when Alexander asked Diogenes what he was doing said "I'm looking for the bones of your father but I can't tell them apart from the bones of slaves". Alexander said "If he were not Alexander he would be Diogenes" which shows that Alexander must have felt the burdens and obligations of office, cares of which Diogenes had none.
You're mistaken
The "honest" would be redundant for a native speaker. The fact that it doesn't make sense that he never found anyone was sorta his point.
"Honest man" in the sense of "true man", real man", or "actual man", as opposed to a pretender. So, "honest" is redundant because "I am looking for a man" implies "true man", especially coming from someone like Diogenes.
I don't care what anybody says, Diogenes was the epitome of coolness.
I believe everyone would agree upon that.
I wish I believed anyone would agree on that.
These days we write off free thinkers and contrarians as “edgelords” and go back to our willful drudgery.
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I wish Sash was right but I think you’re right.
He was a useless person just like the beggars of today
@@ChickenPermissionOG Yet here we are discussing him 2300 years after his death.
I love the fact that all moral philosophy can be traced back to an anti-social homeless dude who slept in a barrel.
he is the same as buddhist monks
@@Andrew-qc8jh he is not the same. If you take a look at the Monk life, even they will tell you the reason they are able to attain some spiritual mastery is there is a community supporting them. Monks are fed by society. Diogenes was fed by Diogenes.
@cheeseburgerinparadise7124 you are right in that in a lot of ways he is opposite of buddhist monks as they usually lean heavily on community and scripture. In hindu traditions you might see people lean more into a diogenes way of self-inquiry as Hinduism often states don't believe anything we say. Do the work and the truth will show but scripture is still pushed.
@@cheeseburgerinparadise7124 though diogense was built from society and other philosophers. He didn't develop in a vacuum
New cynic: they can do better
Old cynic: I can do better
Actions speak louder
Than words.
Old cynic: they apparently can't do better
I pray for more people like him. He was truly based and learn the art of not givimg a damn.
They still exist around you
@@laurendomangue9947there is a guy like this here
I cannot believe I just discovered this guy, but I'm so fucking happy I did
He is the greatest of all Greek philosophers. It is sufficient to know that he lived at the time when Alexander crossed half of the world reaching the northern frontiers of India.
Actually Plato was the greatest Greek philosopher
@@Chase_baker_1996 ah yes, the man who declared humans were featherless birds
@@reoakiodesu well he wasn't perfect
@@Chase_baker_1996 Have you carefully considered both philosophies for yourself or were you simply told that Plato was the greatest?
The other famous interaction between Alexander and Diogenes was thus: one day Diogenes was looking through a pile of skeletons when Alexander came upon him and asked what he was doing. To which Diogenes replied “I was looking for your fathers bones, but I cannot tell them apart from slave bones.”
Legend.
Another antedocte has Diogenes continuously hitting himself in the head with a hammer whereupon he was asked why he did so. To which Diogenes replied, "because it feels so good when I stop."
Not true
Such simple and accessible wisdom. Diogenes is the man.
"Normality and conformity is no standard for mental health", especially if normality and conformity lack reason, I may add
Very well written
Finally an introduction to Diogenes which doesn't just magnify some bizarre sounding actions but instead explains his philosophy.
I believe he was searching for an "honest" man, regardless, great video. Love what you're doing for philosophy!
both are true
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I think I just discovered the greatest philosopher of all time.
Cynicism in other words is Taoism but savage.
Also, thank you for actually explaining what Nietzsche meant with the lantern story. It's been bugging me for years.
Great stuff! Your videos are excellent! Right around the time of the Buddha and a lot of similarities to the Buddhist teaching. The Buddha took it a step further and developed a clear path that anyone could follow if they so desired. It would be great to see you do a video on the Buddha!
And look! he has been remembered for 2300 years.
You missed the golden line after Diogenes ask Alexander to step out of his sun.
Alexander: If I were not Alexander, I would want to be Diogenes!
Diogenes: If I were not Diogenes, I too would want to be Diogenes!
Yes that’s what I was waiting on but he pass it up.
Imagine being so good at talking shit ...that people listen about it through hundreds of years..
@@nekvek123thousands of years ago
Life's a scrum, being one of these guys, or debating society in his favor. The most poignant points about Diogenes is his cavalier attitude to Alexander - his actions spoke for his true state of mind, his commitment. He wasn't faking(!) and wasn't nostalgiac or romantic.
Same for Alexander - two strong people meeting each other.
I have never laughed so hard watching a video. wow, he was the stand-up philosopher. Thank you for the wonderful enlightenment and truth, Excellent narration. It is great to practice enjoying nature naturally,
You know one irony I take from this, is the very things which have become part of Diogenes' legend -- pissing on people who mock him, living where he pleases, living as a beggar yet showing contempt for the mindless masses, and caring not one bit for the race for money or status -- we look down on homeless people for or consider them mentally ill, when if they'd been born a thousand years ago would have made them great philosophers.
My new hero. Never heard how I feel described so well. ✊🏽🙏🏽🕉
Probably one of the only philosophers who truly lived what they preached, if not the only one
Whoa wait. Diogenes of Sinope, a misanthrope?!
A close reading of Diogenes Laertius' Lives of Eminent Philosophers chronicles that Diogenes was tutor of children and men. Diogenes' disgust of men and women was directed at gluttons, perverts, and manipulators. Diogenes gave credit to those focused on noble projects in life, such as studying philosophy.
He once said “there is nothing to fear but fear itself.” What a brilliant soul.
No he didn't lol
thats rosevault
@@croma7495 no it was chuck norris
@@crebsparkChuck Norris made Twisted Sister take it.
He had zero Fs to give to Fate.
Never heard of this guy before today. Yet you're describing almost exactly my own personal philosophy.
I’m just now learning of this man and I’ve come to these same feelings and thoughts beforehand such as human beings are being corrupted by an over complicated set of societal systems and norms and living closer to nature than anything else, it’s so reassuring to learn of an ancient philosopher who shares my discoveries
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Shouldn't you do something about that then?
Stop being a conformist slave then.
So basically diogenes was a straight savage. 😂 reducing even Alexander the great to a simple ant. Lol
Another good line from diogenes is when he was looking at a bunch of bones and said that he couldn't tell a difference from peasants bones with royal bones lol
I think this reason of pain increasing pleasure is why people become less happy the more advanced we become. It becomes harder to find hardship in the modern world than it is to find comfort.
I was Diogenes in a past life. Explains everything.
My dude Diogenes
I tip my hat to you sir for basically giving the middle finger to conventional society
Great video, narration, and info! Answered all my questions...especially how the meaning of cynical has changed
Diogenes is/was awesome.
A self-sufficient beggar...Interesting concept.
If I were Diogenes, I'd probably find a way to reply with piss for your comment. But since I'm not, let's give it a try.
By begging, Diogenes, proved to the fools around him(throughout time) that you can be spiritually self-sufficient, contempt and happy, even when you rely for your survival on the good will of others and their food offerings while being one of most irritating persons alive.
Contrary to what you might believe, accepting is more difficult than giving. By truly accepting something offered that you need, you feel gratitude and you agree on being willing to offer the analogous thing to someone else when needed. So accepting is a prerequisite of offering. "Taking" on the other hand(as in getting something that you feel should be rightfully yours/or you deserve it) is a lot more common, and it is a declaration that you are not inclined to offer something analogous,selflessly to someone else.
Accepting equals moral debt(not essentially towards the giver), taking equals personal debt towards someone(and not always).
Sometimes, when one wants to help someone with something(noble cause), even if he doesn't want to do it for a reward which is many times the case (because some things are priceless and you never want to devalue them by giving them a value), he might give the opportunity to the individual to give something back(mostly of very low value), so as to appear as there is no personal debt left.
In this case, Diogenes accepted the offerings as a beggar, so as the whole society would not owe him anything.
He should be treated as a king because of the potential good he could offer, and yet he was content with a piece of bread dependent on the good will of others.
It was more than this, Diogenes was political and with opinion about the surroundings, not just a self-sufficient beggar, if you have this thought then perhaps the youtube videos do not portray accurately. He would comment on things happening around. But not give a fuck.
For example he lived in the pot and didn't give a fuck. And For example when the whole city of Corinth was preparing for Alexander the greats attack and would run up and down to make preparations and perhaps they were also angry that he wasn't doing anything, Diogenes would get up and start rolling-pushing the big ceramic pot house around the city up and down to also be active and do stuff!
Those who are not satisfied and live their life craving for money, pleasure, status, social approval are the real beggars, always begging for more and more and at the end they're gonna die. Their life is pathetic. Diogenes doesn't need nor desire anything.
Nature provides you with everything you need to survive. But nowadays thanks to society it’s almost always illegal to take whatnature has to offer. Youhave to pay for it and therefore money is rightfully the originof all evil
@@florianpeter7045 so true
He was the first to tell someone to off themselves ever.
My biggest role model! He was truly awesome. No respect for any authority what so ever.
I wouldn’t say he’s the best role model, but if taking a piss on your enemies or masturbating in public is your thing, go for it.
+Mihai Balint not when you are your own authority you can then act for yourself, you are then a free and independent individual. Or you can rely on someone or something that will likely not be there when you actually need, and if you are in need of something for your very being you are its slave and it is the master. So yeah authority is BS.
@Keiith no matter how bad a government is,it's still 100 times better then anarchy and cynicism
@@Donbd83 no one can be 100% free and independent,the fact that you are using a device built by others to communicate with us and wearing clothes knitted by other people etc further proves that
@@cv4809 Define you definition of freedom, did I have a choice to buy this computer? Do I have a choice on what I choose to wear?
When I state one is free and independent I mean in thought and in action and is responsible for their own actions and safety, who else ever could be but the one always in the scenario, to rely on another to give me something is folly or to expect it is owed is folly, to offer an equivalent of ones work in exchange for the work of another is not folly nor wrong, their is no coercion taking place, there is no confliction or contradiction of ethics take place just equivalent exchange, this is not the case with the state it makes a mockery of ethics.
See you like Nietzsche, me to here is a personal favorite of mine.
“A state, is called the coldest of all cold monsters. Coldly lieth it also; and this lie creepeth from its mouth: "I, the state, am the people."
It is a lie! Creators were they who created peoples, and hung a faith and a love over them: thus they served life.
Destroyers, are they who lay snares for many, and call it the state: they hang a sword and a hundred cravings over them.
Where there is still a people, there the state is not understood, but hated as the evil eye, and as sin against laws and customs.”
Diogenes-senpai is my spirit animal
One of my favorite philosophers
Ancient world George Carlin
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Carlin is no where near the caliber of Diogenes.Unlike Carlin, Diogenes applied what he preached. Carlin is just a famous comedian that appeals to the zombified masses who bath in entertainment. Diogenes would walk in after his performance and decipher the real George Carlin.
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Be yourself with no apologies. Enjoy the simple things that make you happy. Seek harmony with nature. Sounds like a good message.
Absloute mad lad
Interesting person.
The only normal lad in a sea of mad ones actually
@@florianpeter7045 That's how I feel man, I feel like everyone in society is insane and that I'm the only sane person. But to society I'm considered the one to be crazy.
Good presentation that bears much re-watch! The identification between Cynics and dogs ("kynikes") speaks a lot. Supposedly according to Diogenes, dogs live the ideal life: living day to day directly in nature, without property, self-sufficient yet social, good-humored and playful, without any shame about the physical body (from crapping to making love in public), obeying no authority they haven't chosen for themselves. And as you make a list of the virtues he championed, it sounds 90% like general Native American philosophy.
What an interesting character.
Diogenes sounds like my roommate
Sammy Black shout out to your roommate
you guys have no toilet?
Yo, we were never roommates. Stop lyin.
No, your roommate sounds like Diogenes.
Hello mate
You're videos are unbelievably helpful. Thank you so much. Not sure I can totally get on board with diogenes though lol
I see many comments referring to people in the modern world who act like Diogenes when in reality, “The Cynic” was much more than what he appears to be, despite the stories of his irrational behaviors. The difference between someone like Diogenes and your average rambling homeless man is that Diogenes did not abuse drugs, previously had wealth yet abandoned it, and was fully aware of his actions and decisions in life, whereas your average homeless man on the streets is on various substances, has never been wealthy, does no sort of pondering, and is unsure about himself and the world around him.
Dude, this guy really gets it. Diogenes was awesome XD ❤️
It's nice to hear about my past life in such an expository yet unjudging way
'What are you rebelling against Diogenes!?' What've ya got?...
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He still had a working brain
Thank you for posting these I really appreciate you because many of us can’t get this information except for school
The first punk rocker.
I honestly think he was more legitimate
First man to live the dog life.
@Ellisar Atranimus thats what is messed up with punk !! saying you're a 'punk' is making you ''not a punk' it s a culture but the culture is about not having culture ....
@Ellisar Atranimus Terence McKenna said "only the shaman knows culture is a game and he has learned to play outside the rules."
It never ceases to amaze me how much wisdom the acient Greeks and Romans possessed and that got lost down the line of time
“Motion has to exist, what else do you call it?”
“No, everything is stationary for all you know, we only perceive motion with the senses, it has no objective measurement.”
“What say you Diogenes?”
Diogenes: **LEAVES**
"The less you need, the more powerful you become." - Cole Robinson
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." - Kris Kristofferson
First Zen master of the Western world.
Every single Academy of Ideas video is evergreen
As a Stoic the ancient Cynics were in a way inspiring, but the modern cynics aren`t remotely comparable
If Diogenes would live today, he would probably shitpost about modern cynics and modern stoic's as well.
Extreme focus on the self rather than outward perception of others
while Alexander was master of greece at the time he hadn't yet pursued his conquests at this time. once he left greece on conquest he never returned.
No but he still was the ruler of greece and he stabbed his brother sin the back to claim the throne before he went up to Diogenes
Yes..I am happy to read this. That man was a king of his mind.
you did a way better job than that bbc podcast
It takes more then just intelligence to see beyond your own conditioning of thoughts and see beyond the cultural illusions. Takes guts to believe in yourself and show your true self, and the best thing is that people will admire and be drawn to that authenticity.
This sounds so much like the train of thought I am having of late.
Ofc, you are a genius on par with diogenes
I am so relieved that this person exists and is celebrated.
Brilliant! Well done and thank you! Keep up the good work.
Diogenes’s view of the masses is alluring.
The most badass philosopher out there...
Happiness comes from within; where you are content with thyself knowing moral purpose is something you can't be robbed of
Diogenes was a Genius. Everyone pretty much lives and behaves in the exact opposite manner... Constantly Conforming...
This reminds me of running or working out. Why do something that induces pain. Because it feels amazing when you stop.
This man gave less than zero fucks. What a god among men.
this was a great man ...... and i could only wish to half a fraction of his wisdom
This guy is my hero. Someone bless me with a book with diogenes leanings
Diogenes - the one who was free of illusion
And we call that free man "mad man".
This man is my spirit human! He has to be in my soul pod🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
#amwf
Excellent intro to Cynicism. Thank you!
In today's modern, civilised world he would either be on prison, a mental hospital or shot by the police or beaton to death by the sheep.
Agree with a lot of his ideas and I still think they are as relevant today as they were thousands of years ago.
Indeed
Diogenes = A mix of hyper minimalism and narcissism. And a mix of rasjonalism/zen and madness. The perfect illusjon of " perfect self sufficiency". In reality if you need to beg for food you are 100% addicted to the civilisasjon. We can all strive for self sufficiency, but reality is that in modern life the separasjon of tasks in industry and in civilisasjon is what we are all dependent on. And from we are born, humans are dependent on the parents to live. People like this is a great reminder, that it is indeed possible to live life in alot of different ways. And that we as humans are in a paradoxical way dependent yet at the same time independent.
This guy optimizes what rock and roll was originally meant to be!! Not what it eventually became but what it should have been forever!! Hell yes!!
Reddogsociety67 Music is what people make of it, and it's mostly to make money.
Being a bum and elitist? Sounds like it.
A strong person is noble.
He must demands himself not to shame
Because he is proud of his body+mind-complex.
My new favorite philosopher
A life of one day, the way Diogenes lived, is far better than a life of 100 years, having never realized this power inside of yourself.
The most bad ass of all the philosophers
Man how did I just discover this great historical figure today? Diogenes was such a badass cool dude!
walks around town in broad daylight with a lantern asking I'm looking for a man. 🤣 I guess no one was keeping it real.
Pain is undoubtedly the greatest of teachers.
A man who's shit was all together...
not many of those through history and civilization
Amazing Video, I just downloaded it because of the Simplicity of his mind a person can get far more than someone bathing in wealth. Keep videos about these philosophers coming, I will check them out.
Renzo Arana I grew up in a lottery winning family White House fence with Griswald family Christmas's.
It was all for show they all can't speak to each other without fighting and none have found happiness in money.
I learned everything from my grandmother but no-one listened. It's not the money that brought her happiness. Our mind creates everything we will only be as happy when we're wealthy as the happiness we have now before we accumulate wealth. Best of luck to you in life good sir
This man is a otherworldliness