Diogenes: The Most Eccentric Philosopher

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  • @Biographics
    @Biographics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +124

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  • @imperiumgraecum9126
    @imperiumgraecum9126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2841

    Greek here, one small detail, which I see most non-greek documentaries about Diogenes fail to mention:
    Diogenes's exact answer to Alexander in Greek was: "Αποσκότησόν με", which literally means "un-darken me". However, that verb has both a literal and a metaphorical interpretation.
    Alexander, as the great king that he portraited himself, promised to give Diogenes anything that he would wish for. Upon hearing that, Diogenes requested that he "be removed from the darkness" of ignorance, aka be enlightened. Alexander, realizing that even he couldn't possibly give Diogenes any knowledge that he didn't already possess, walked away mumbling.

    • @bernardocoto8519
      @bernardocoto8519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      I've heard this interpretation and find it worthy of Diogenes, it's brilliant.

    • @3EBstudio
      @3EBstudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      thanks to plato lol

    • @crazymustard7915
      @crazymustard7915 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      what did he mumble?

    • @frenchguitarguy1091
      @frenchguitarguy1091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I wish this kind of double meaning was possible in English

    • @overlookqbrick7951
      @overlookqbrick7951 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      thank you for having such a grasp of both languages to share this with us.

  • @roseredthorns
    @roseredthorns 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1300

    "in a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face" - based Diogenes

    • @Gabriel-se9el
      @Gabriel-se9el 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      never said it, probably never thought it. Pseudo comments sound great until you realise some regular sweaty nerd came up with it in their basement bedroom.

    • @iwanabana
      @iwanabana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      "Never trust the legitimacy of random musings of men on the web" - Abraham Lincoln

    • @Gabriel-se9el
      @Gabriel-se9el 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@iwanabana ahah tbf I wouldn't be too surprised if he actually did the guy was so ahead of his time

    • @Nothing_serious
      @Nothing_serious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      "Diogenes is the man" -Albert Einstein

    • @movietimeateds69
      @movietimeateds69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iwanabana well played. I applaud you.

  • @1xoACEox1
    @1xoACEox1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +873

    Its also said he used to sit at the front of Platos lectures and eat loudly.

    • @captainanopheles4307
      @captainanopheles4307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      And defecate at moments of ridicule.

    • @snoookie456
      @snoookie456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      My favorite twist on that is eating loudly at a lecture of his on self-restraint and someone took his stick away from him and started hitting him for eating loudly.
      Diogenes' reply to the frustrated man was something along the lines of "I'm giving you figs straight from the tree and you knock them off my hand, preferring to look at fake ones in a painting".
      He always found the punchline. A lot of people considered his actions just random repulsive acts of pointless provocation or as if he was just trying to appear interesting.
      But in every account there's an obvious lesson to be learned.

    • @jaymcd8577
      @jaymcd8577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lmao

    • @elgordobondiola
      @elgordobondiola 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He's a the kid in class that chews food with his mouth open during a class presentation

    • @NecrologistALT
      @NecrologistALT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ancient Greek JSchlatt

  • @blueberrymcphuckerson9821
    @blueberrymcphuckerson9821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +685

    00:12:38 You forgot the best part: Diogenes' response to Alexander's wish to be him. In response, Diogenes said "Yes, if I also was Alexander the Great *_I, too, would wish to be Diogenes."_*

    • @thejudgmentalcat
      @thejudgmentalcat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      SNAAAP!

    • @ClayWar237
      @ClayWar237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      _the absolute madman_

    • @Yaya-ni3ie
      @Yaya-ni3ie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hahahaha what a rascal

    • @RP_Williams
      @RP_Williams 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      lol He really was a brave man, considering Alexander was such a psycho he sometimes killed friends (while in a drunken rage).
      I'm just recently discovering the lesser known stoics like Diogenes and Epictetus and Seneca (almost EVERYONE knows Socrates and Plato), and MORE people should hear this amazing stuff.
      Thanks for the telling us 'the best part' lol

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Pray excuse my nit-picking, but I heard the line (in response to Mr. the Great's, "if I were not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes") as, "... and if I were not Diogenes, then I would also wish to be Diogenes"

  • @snakey934Snakeybakey
    @snakey934Snakeybakey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1199

    According to Greek sources, after Alexander said: "why, If I were not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes" Diogenes replied: "and if I were not Diogenes, I would wish to be Diogenes"

    • @braindose5038
      @braindose5038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Savage

    • @ramonpizarro
      @ramonpizarro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      If I was you, I'd wanna be me too

    • @graphospasm5394
      @graphospasm5394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      That's really interesting that Alaxander with so much ambition and greed would want to be like diogenes. They lived nearly opposite lives. I could see diogenes never wanting to be anyone else tho

    • @tonyar952
      @tonyar952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👑

    • @MouseHuntExtendedDirectorsCut
      @MouseHuntExtendedDirectorsCut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@graphospasm5394 the point was that Diogenes asked something so blatantly outside of the power of Alexander that it made all of his pomp and praise seem irrelevant, what Alexander meant was that Diogenes had discovered a power beyond what any man was capable of granting. So to ask it was to demonstrate the absurdity of mankind’s arrogance. Alexander understood this and that’s the meaning of his comment.

  • @donaldgoodinson7550
    @donaldgoodinson7550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    Simon,you missed out the story when he was roaming the streets during daylight with a lighted lamp. When asked what he was doing he replied 'looking for an honest man

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You missed cut out the last part of that quote. "I'm looking for honest men, so I may poop upon their floors"

    • @worlore1651
      @worlore1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the actual quote is that he was looking for a human

    • @jackhoffman9956
      @jackhoffman9956 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thats honestly (ahem) one of the least interesting stories about him but its also one of the most well known

  • @JimLockwoodShow
    @JimLockwoodShow 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1868

    I love this philosopher. He was the troll of the ancient world

    • @Biographics
      @Biographics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +241

      OG troll.

    • @logicalmalethink4925
      @logicalmalethink4925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea no responsibilities... weak man.

    • @kumidodasilva6241
      @kumidodasilva6241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      MalLa 225 oh poor diogenes.. such a weak, free and happy person.. it’s so much better to be responsable, sad and stupid..

    • @custos3249
      @custos3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, no. There was a counterpoint against social complacency, a purpose, in his actions. Trolls are just morons happy to inflict the wastage of their own time on other peoples'.

    • @kingofthehamsters
      @kingofthehamsters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He would be disgusted or amused at your lack of understanding of the points he was making. He was holding a warped mirror to the world and its concerns that everyone accepted readily. These others here have called him weak. Yet I wonder if they could what they did, live as a homeless person in the ancient world, as a point of principle. The man was sharp enough to have lectured publicly. He could have made his way as a celebrated teacher if he had softened his stance just a little. But he didn't. He took his philosophical stance to the extreme because he truely didn't give a crap about the vanities and trifles that we, as those then, think essential. The reeking herd, the polluted flock. That's strength that these here cannot comprehend let alone copy. I certainly couldn't live like that. Homelessness is horrible enough in the modern world, back then it would have been hell.

  • @willsplayify
    @willsplayify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    "you are too powerful to need me and I am too self sufficient to need you"
    WTH This mad man, he speaks to Alexander as an equal.

    • @IPA300
      @IPA300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Was Alexander more of a man just because he could kill more than Diogenes?

    • @disbeafakename167
      @disbeafakename167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@IPA300 I'd think most people would hold building an empire above spanking it in a barrel and begging.

    • @jgrj52
      @jgrj52 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@disbeafakename167 some would and others would not

    • @denniswachira4204
      @denniswachira4204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is an equal by all rights

    • @FlyingUnosaur
      @FlyingUnosaur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denniswachira4204 which rights?

  • @Daniel-kq4bx
    @Daniel-kq4bx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    Random guy: Please dont spit inside my mansion Diogenes
    Diogenes : Peace was never an option

  • @StraboSE
    @StraboSE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +907

    I respect anyone who spanks it in a barrel in the middle of town.

    • @maxsteele3686
      @maxsteele3686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      Gregory Bycraft You fool, why limit yourself to such animalistic solitude when apparently there’s hot single moms in your area?! More left for me, I guess

    • @mr.nolife4697
      @mr.nolife4697 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@maxsteele3686 you sir are quite obviously the true philosopher of this video

    • @chicago_rocker23
      @chicago_rocker23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well I'm willing to bet you respect a lot more people then you may think.

    • @squidge7436
      @squidge7436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah dude, he would even do it in the middle of the street if he had a sudden urge.

    • @Reblwitoutacause
      @Reblwitoutacause 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s what you say, until you see it irl.
      Everyone a philosophical gangsta til the barrel appears in the town square...

  • @beau-tiful1443
    @beau-tiful1443 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1111

    *runs in with a featherless chicken*
    BEHOLD A MAN!!!
    *Throws chicken on the ground and leaves*

    • @fundude6127
      @fundude6127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      Smell ya later, deliberator.

    • @GenghisKool
      @GenghisKool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I came here for that comment

    • @Leftyotism
      @Leftyotism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      lmfao, hard not getting killed for things like that back in the day in this place i am

    • @NoobNoob-ss5hs
      @NoobNoob-ss5hs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Conquer my feet. Snoot the foot.

    • @hazeldecker622
      @hazeldecker622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Seems legit.

  • @pauls9331
    @pauls9331 5 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Diogenes roasted Plato with that that chicken gag.

    • @gvaron2391
      @gvaron2391 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      He also shat himself during lectures, so he could ruin them

    • @nikolai9520
      @nikolai9520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gvaron2391 really?! What was the source for those events?

    • @alancat2705
      @alancat2705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      in which Plato probably roasted the chicken in revenge .....finger lickin good !.

    • @bobblybob4351
      @bobblybob4351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      does anyone wonder if he had schizophrenia and also ptsd after being in jail?

    • @nietzschesghost8529
      @nietzschesghost8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would've been better off roasting the chicken.

  • @Wi-Fi-El
    @Wi-Fi-El 4 ปีที่แล้ว +306

    Imagine if diogenes existed today. I'd give it a half hour before he got himself arrested

    • @paradoxpanda1756
      @paradoxpanda1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Tried for insanity too lol 😂

    • @worlore1651
      @worlore1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      doesnt wear a mask then is executed

    • @Johnhasa1
      @Johnhasa1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frrr

    • @VashTheDamnFiend
      @VashTheDamnFiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’d be one of the groomer lgbt teachers

    • @paulyricca3881
      @paulyricca3881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      👱🏻‍♂️I LIVE IN A CAN AND I LOVE ❤️ DOGS 🐕 2!

  • @marloyorkrodriguez9975
    @marloyorkrodriguez9975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I remember Diogenes once reprimanding a harlot’s son when the kid spat on him, the philosopher said ‘careful now you might spat on your father’

    • @Caelia7
      @Caelia7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Gosh, how old are you?!

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I remember that Diogenes went on to poop on that kids floor

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Caelia7 Old enough

    • @forcedtohaveahandle
      @forcedtohaveahandle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Caelia7 ?

    • @Caelia7
      @Caelia7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@forcedtohaveahandle ?

  • @dafttool
    @dafttool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1642

    *Homelessness is like graduate school for philosophy* 🤔

    • @kennethmartin8715
      @kennethmartin8715 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      Then where's my PhD??

    • @dafttool
      @dafttool 5 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Kenneth Martin You don’t need to be lugging around an awkward sized piece of paper. Cast away your greedy materialism & embrace the purity of holding nothing 🤔

    • @AtticusDraco
      @AtticusDraco 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ken needs to find his "Happy Graduation!" wine jar

    • @EclecticoIconoclasta
      @EclecticoIconoclasta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Just don´t become a drug addict since in that situation you will be wasting your precious time in looking for money for drugs instead of on working on your philosophy

    • @MarcillaSmith
      @MarcillaSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@EclecticoIconoclasta Clearly you missed the "dual degree" section of the department's graduate catalog

  • @Yggi11
    @Yggi11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    "He remained single by choice..."
    I don't think this guy was exactly tripping over women, anyway.

    • @awonoto
      @awonoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      “He remained single by lack of choice” would be an equally valid statement.

    • @flavio7180
      @flavio7180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      By choice? Doesn’t that make him gay?

    • @arpitthakur45
      @arpitthakur45 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@flavio7180 he could have dated men you see.... gays have a choice of being single too...even if he was...

    • @flavio7180
      @flavio7180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arpitthakur45 I’m only kidding. Check out “Hilarious Ugandan interview” and you’ll see where I took the joke.

    • @Mikeanglo
      @Mikeanglo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He chose the life he lived, so who is to say that he wouldn't have been drowning in pussy if he had chose to live like everyone else. Technically still his choice to live that way.

  • @Frosty-yy7oq
    @Frosty-yy7oq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My favorite quote of his was said when we was rummaging through bones. Alexander asked him what he was doing and he replied: "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave."

  • @ignitionfrn2223
    @ignitionfrn2223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    0:50 - Chapter 1 - Beginnings
    2:15 - Chapter 2 - Exile
    3:25 - Chapter 3 - Citizen of the world
    7:10 - Chapter 4 - Writings
    9:25 - Mid roll ads
    10:40 - Chapter 5 - Taken captive
    13:40 - Chapter 6 - Self mastery
    14:35 - Chapter 7 - Diogenes vs plato

  • @Constantine_IA
    @Constantine_IA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Diogenes the first Jedi master

  • @joniriihonen5397
    @joniriihonen5397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    I'd like to correct one thing: Diogenes was NOT a stoic. He taught his philosophy,now called cynicism, to the teacher of stoicisms founder. There is a clear relation between stoicism and cynicism, but Diogenes was not an actual stoic.

    • @mahdisabour4436
      @mahdisabour4436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes! Thank you for your comment! I was so confused because I clearly remember reading many times "Diogenes the cynic" in different books.

    • @faelreklaw8837
      @faelreklaw8837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      In fact cynicism means dogism in English if I translated literally in Hellenic. Cyon κύων is dog. Don't forget they called him Diogenes The Dog Διογένης ο κύων. It's a shame that Hellenic is 30% of all Indo-European languages and some others and still people don't know the importance and history of this language. They even call the country and inhabitants the wrong name.

    • @siggyincr7447
      @siggyincr7447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for clarifying that. Watching the video I was a bit confused as to how he was stoic. From what I know of stoicism, he didn't seem to fit the bill.

    • @starrattmaster
      @starrattmaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@faelreklaw8837 and Greeks probably also call all countries around the world the wrong name. It’s not unusual, and especially doesn’t merit having a chip on your shoulder about it.

    • @jmolvin9055
      @jmolvin9055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hmm yeah from what I heard of him he acted with incredible stoicism by not "freaking out" under stressful circumstances like most individuals would.

  • @edstirling
    @edstirling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    diogenes sounds like a character will ferrell should be playing in his next movie.

    • @DMitr0
      @DMitr0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      in bill & ted 3

    • @maxsteele3686
      @maxsteele3686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I actually imagine Danny McBride playing this role perfectly

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The standard of a culture’s greatness is indicated by the degree to which it respects its bums...

    • @mohit5496
      @mohit5496 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so true

  • @Fro00ot0
    @Fro00ot0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I kind of want to see a sitcom with Alexander the Great and Diogenes

    • @funkk
      @funkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'm picturing an ancient Kramer as Diogenes...

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      nah fam diogenes trolling plato all the time is way better material

    • @camilohiche4475
      @camilohiche4475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And Plato. And a chicken.

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Diogenes would poop on the floor of the set

    • @joshuacaithness678
      @joshuacaithness678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm thinking Robert Downey Jr as Diogenes?

  • @karlamay_
    @karlamay_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I could only imagine Diogenes replying to Alexander:
    "If I was you, I wanna be me too..."

  • @benb3316
    @benb3316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Really good one.
    Note also there's a story about Alexander (Iskander in the East) and how he decided not to go further into India. Besides his army ready to mutiny on him and all that.
    He met a Brahman on asking for an area's leader to conquer/bribe/threaten him. Found a nearly naked old man with a bowl under a tree. Though more polite he reminded him much of Diogenes. Nothing he could offer or threaten him with so he left.

    • @roysmith5711
      @roysmith5711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The man had said to Alexander, "Alexander, you are being a nuisance to yourself and everyone around you"

    • @thatoneneeko2131
      @thatoneneeko2131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ghandi's prototype

  • @MrEricleblanc26
    @MrEricleblanc26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    He's the dude of ancient greece.

    • @rednarok
      @rednarok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Andrew Brent most likely since drugs were legal before the catholic church came.

    • @KenMabie
      @KenMabie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rednarok umm drugs were legal after the Catholic Church came too Cannabis wasn't made illegal in America until the 1930s ... There's many reports of Queen Victoria eating hash laced candies for her period cramps... And opium dens were on every street corner during the wild west days...
      How stupid are you to think the Catholic Church is what outlawed drugs...

    • @KenMabie
      @KenMabie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Andrew Brent most likely no since Cannabis ... The Indian hemp plant wouldn't have made its way to Greece by that time
      .. but then again maybe it did ... Any instances of Greek hemp cloth?
      Also obligatory Mel Brooks reference ... "ROMAN RED!"

    • @rednarok
      @rednarok 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenMabie so, in Rome, before the Christian religion took hold there used to be mass gatherings where intelligent people would use drugs with similar effects as LSD.

    • @rednarok
      @rednarok 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenMabie as stupid as all the romans who outlawed drugs for the church.

  • @__prometheus__
    @__prometheus__ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Diogenes the Unroastable

  • @joshuamonroe8968
    @joshuamonroe8968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Diogenes also found a woman bowing to a statue of a God to which he replied, "Are you not afraid good woman, with the gods being omnipresent, that by attempting to show your virtue, you are in fact showing your arse?"
    He has also been quoted as saying "Blushing is the color of virtue."
    (Probably said after the woman became embarrassed at what he had just pointed out.)

    • @anthonyp3113
      @anthonyp3113 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thelvadam5269 right...

    • @saeedvazirian
      @saeedvazirian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes he said arse in an East London accent.

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is mooning perhaps in fact the right way round?

    • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
      @gumunduringigumundsson9344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I would make people it would be funny if they mooned me hahaha. I'd be prouder if anything.

    • @loopseeker
      @loopseeker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @JoeySocko
    @JoeySocko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +310

    This dude would be called a bum nowadays.

    • @gordonlawrence4749
      @gordonlawrence4749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Either that or more bonkers than a box of frogs. Not that the two are mutually exclusive.

    • @2Dmensions
      @2Dmensions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Seems like he was called a bum back then as well. Just depends on how you interpret his philosophy.

    • @calebchristensen900
      @calebchristensen900 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Nah this dude would be way to funny. Someone would offer him a stage. He’d still be like hose actors that live in studios but have millions of dollars.

    • @-haclong2366
      @-haclong2366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He was a bum two and a half thousand years ago too.

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      nowadays, I call him my hero

  • @chickitychina6784
    @chickitychina6784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Why is the man, who calls me a dog, surprised when I piss on him?” - Diogenes of Sinope

  • @snoookie456
    @snoookie456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Rarely I find proper content on my favorite philosopher. Thanks for doing your research and formulating this video in such a way, it's a breath of fresh air to see a serious take on the subjects I'm most interested in.

    • @nikolai9520
      @nikolai9520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This synopsis only skims certain anecdotes and doesn't apply much thought to what his philosophy strived for. Quite a bit has been left out.
      In 2012, I came across a very rare account on how disciplined he was when it came to his sexual appetites. Also there are two stories from Aesop, one that shows him displaying a favouritism in his treatment others. Upon first reading, it seems that he condescending for being ignored when he was about give thanks for help. Yet the moral is that supplying kindness to others should not be offered whimsically.
      Personally, this last account can be seen as having influenced some Stoics' position on ethics.

    • @snoookie456
      @snoookie456 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikolai9520 Well every account leaves out a lot of the info (at least a lot of the info I've managed to find on Diogenes), even though there isn't much info on him at all.
      But this one at least deals with respect to its subject, anything else on youtube is just a travesty.
      But, aside from the fact that I haven't read what you found out in 2012, what I really strive for is people understanding that when it comes to Diogenes, every story had its meaning. I've had too many people to talk to about this who think Diogenes was just seeking attention. Even if he was, which is not something you can ever prove anyway, every anecdote served a purpose, every provocation had a meaning to it. Sadly, most of it gets lost on translation and interpretation. It's hard to separate fact from fiction and there are a lot of treasures that are missed when it comes to Diogenes, specifically the ones you have to dig through etymology for to find real context. But given the fact that this can't be done in a 2 hour presentation (trust me, I've tried), let alone 10-20 minutes of youtube video, I could settle for just being respectful to your source material. Which this guy is.

    • @nikolai9520
      @nikolai9520 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snoookie456 Any material that offers educational insight, be it TH-cam or otherwise, should be a bit more thorough in what it presents. I have studied enough of the Hellenistic period to make comments that are substantive and worth probing, so I question and often challenge information pertaining to a thinker I respect and has been greatly misinterpreted by many people. If this posting is a resource, it only offers a general overview with some questionable and incomplete interpretations. My comments serve to steer those who care about the subject matter to the source material or discussions on the topic of cynical philosophy for the sake of an accurate understanding.
      Of course, each story or anecdote can be taken on its own, but since philosophers tend to be consistent in thought and personal objectives, it is not too difficult to connect Diogenes' perspectives with other things he does and says. In no way shape or form would I admit that I fully understand him or appreciate all that he has done, but studying philosophy consists in being open minded to what's presented. Some of his anecdotes are intentionally ambiguous, so it becomes an exercise in trying to get into his mindset.
      Even if Diogenes is a fictional character, there is still reason to examine and learn from what's been said. Consider Aesop's fables, Plato's allegories, and other philosophical tropes; there are lessons for continual rumination.
      If you care to read what I came across in 2012, it can be found in "Diogenes the Cynic: Sayings and Anecdotes with Other Popular Moralists" published by Oxford University Press. It is a combination of what is in Diogenes Laertius' Lives of eminent philosophers, but it is the odd passage from Stobaeus, Aelian, Gnomologium Vaticanum, and others that makes this collection most helpful for anyone conducting academic research at any level.

    • @dlcsucks2019
      @dlcsucks2019 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to learn to search better

  • @mikepuppetz9
    @mikepuppetz9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    Diogenes would've been in heaven if 4chan existed in his time.

    • @islandboy9381
      @islandboy9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      he would've considered even 4chan too conformist and too materialist in terms of social community

    • @coe8159
      @coe8159 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He’s definitely in heaven if heaven exists.

    • @makutas-v261
      @makutas-v261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@islandboy9381 And too full of self serving psychological complexes, self-validations, self-justification and irrational anger towards whatever fictional character they don't like at the moment.

    • @writeordie5452
      @writeordie5452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please, people on 4chan are degenerates, not dogs.

    • @VashTheDamnFiend
      @VashTheDamnFiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@islandboy9381 he would’ve been a lolcow idk why people think he was so great troll when he was deadass serious about his insane beliefs

  • @EuphoricTincture
    @EuphoricTincture 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you for covering Diogenes of Sinope. One of the best books I've read on him is "Diogenes the Cynic: War Against the World" by Luis E. Navia.

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer "That time when Diogenes wage war on the world by pooping all over floors"

  • @bretcaron
    @bretcaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Spiritual ancestor of Andy Kaufman and every troll. Bravo to Diogenes and to the balls to do it without anonymity.

  • @controversialgaming1364
    @controversialgaming1364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Funny how his ideas on living life is so relevant in these days

  • @gailcbull
    @gailcbull 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Diogenes would have loved social media. It's taken his idea of "any act that you do in private, you should in public" to whole new exhibitionist levels.

    • @dlcsucks2019
      @dlcsucks2019 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would never use internet

  • @inhumanassassin6302
    @inhumanassassin6302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    If Diogenes had a smartphone and internet; he would have made memes, the likes of which this world has never seen before!

    • @fructosecornsyrup5759
      @fructosecornsyrup5759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      More likely he'd find them frivolous and not buy them in the first place lol

    • @raymondduplessis3491
      @raymondduplessis3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was reincarnated as Doug Stanhope and George Carlin

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He would use his newly obtained smart phone to track you down and poop on your floor

    • @Nostalgicus
      @Nostalgicus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fructosecornsyrup5759 👌

    • @dlcsucks2019
      @dlcsucks2019 ปีที่แล้ว

      He would never use either smartphone or internet

  • @Thurgoodlucas
    @Thurgoodlucas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I literally just heard about this man from a post on IG and lemme tell you...i can't hate the man

    • @loneronin6813
      @loneronin6813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If there's one thing I have to respect about him, it was his wicked whit and his sheer absence of fear, even when dismissing Alexander the Great himself. Based on those quotes, it seems to me that he wasn't one to respect someone by their rank in society, but their merits as individuals. I'm probably completely off-base, but it seems to me that's what he was eluding to. :)

    • @M12GProductions
      @M12GProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What post?

  • @b.e.nbairesenglishnatives7020
    @b.e.nbairesenglishnatives7020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simón, I'm one of those silent listeners who truly enjoy your videos. Today I clicked the like button and subscribed. Best to you.

  • @farticlesofconflatulation
    @farticlesofconflatulation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The patron saint of “keeping it real”

  • @giulioaprati338
    @giulioaprati338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    Who saw it on Sam O'Nella before coming here?

  • @bellamckinnon8655
    @bellamckinnon8655 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Ignition [FR] n2
    10 months ago (edited)
    0:50 - Chapter 1 - Beginnings
    2:15 - Chapter 2 - Exile
    3:25 - Chapter 3 - Citizen of the world
    7:10 - Chapter 4 - Writings
    9:25 - Mid roll ads
    10:40 - Chapter 5 - Taken captive
    13:40 - Chapter 6 - Self mastery
    14:35 - Chapter 7 - Diogenes vs plato

  • @philthy122
    @philthy122 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    There was a woman in my home town when I was a kid who was very much like Diogenes...except she use to scream at traffic and as far as I remember she only shat in public once.

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Every age has it's own Diogenes

    • @worlore1651
      @worlore1651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PCP

  • @matthewmckenna248
    @matthewmckenna248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Could you cover Otto Skorzney? He was a fascinating character.

  • @kaekuda
    @kaekuda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Diogenes is my favorite philosopher, quite literally the definition of LIVING LIFE

  • @tuts351
    @tuts351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have been waiting for this for such a long time.

  • @haggardkicks
    @haggardkicks 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OMG!!! thanks !!!! i wanted to learn more about this guy for the longest time. but the best way i like to learn this type of stuff is passively while i do other things. or when im just sitting around wanting to watch a documentary. but there is none of this guy, they always focus on the other big players. but then again, i dont look that hard.

  • @tracik1277
    @tracik1277 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ‘He held his breath til he expired’ what an inspiration lol, cheers!

  • @highlandoutsider
    @highlandoutsider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'd never heard of this guy, but he's firmly embedded in my list of Historys Top Ballers

  • @VVEmil
    @VVEmil 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The absolute madlad!

  • @vectorfox4782
    @vectorfox4782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thoroughly enjoy the interaction between Diogenes and Alexander.

  • @DerpyLaron
    @DerpyLaron 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know fact boi, I enjoy the fact that I can look up a random person, event or similar and find a video where you explain it. Keep up the good work.

  • @elendal
    @elendal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You are one of the best content creator on TH-cam. Thank you.

  • @catharinepizzarello4784
    @catharinepizzarello4784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome! This is probably how all beliefs develop in a healthy way. The open debate of Stoicism strengthens critical thinking. Very important in the tidal wave of information. Sort it out and use the inspiration and learning. Thank you so much, Simon!

  • @jtrlatinist2227
    @jtrlatinist2227 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this philosophy videos.
    Can you please do unknown philosophers.
    Also, would you do some Catholic philosophers and theologians like Thomas Aquinas?
    Thanks for watching your stuff for years. I'm also subscribed every channel you got!

  • @williamthefloridano
    @williamthefloridano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If I weren’t Diogenes, I would also want to be Diogenes.

  • @nemodaremo9524
    @nemodaremo9524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Diogenes' ghost watching us on computers in heated homes

  • @alexandrosgaitanas9148
    @alexandrosgaitanas9148 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    his answer to Alexander was..."get me out of darkness"...

  • @philippvoid1800
    @philippvoid1800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    i cant believe it.. a biography about my idol! for real. i am greek and grew up in athens. ancient philosophers were always my inspiration. living in thrash to become enlightened, lol

    • @pranit2784
      @pranit2784 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch sam o nells video

  • @luchermans6512
    @luchermans6512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Ruling over men."
    Not the answer they expected.

  • @PokemonRedSox
    @PokemonRedSox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Not including Nick Cage, this is honestly my favourite person from history

    • @EclecticoIconoclasta
      @EclecticoIconoclasta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They should do a movie about his life and put Nick Cage as Diogenes

    • @bigfenix8272
      @bigfenix8272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bill Murray would make a good Diogenes

    • @XavierMarciano
      @XavierMarciano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who is Nick Cage?

  • @scottishcatdad993
    @scottishcatdad993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, my favorite video! You are awesome!

  • @dragonfangalexander
    @dragonfangalexander 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    In my country, philosophy in highschool doesn't touch on diogenes (nor cinism or stoicism).
    I introduce my students everytime i began class, right after i finish with the greek trinity. And is always one of the better more enlightened classes, specially when it reaches the dialogues between him and Alexander.

    • @jamesclark1736
      @jamesclark1736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What country has philosophy in high school?

    • @JC-xi3rm
      @JC-xi3rm 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you get your sources?

    • @hyperspacejester7377
      @hyperspacejester7377 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder why stoicism and cynicism would be left out of the modern curriculum!? 🤔

  • @hydrichleclerc3268
    @hydrichleclerc3268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My favorite badass philosopher. ...if there's a modern version (that's weird) to his philosophy it would be minimalism(?) i guess,

    • @Powersnufkin
      @Powersnufkin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The term you are looking for is classical cynisism. enjoy the reading.

    • @employee962
      @employee962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anprim innit

    • @ItsameAlex
      @ItsameAlex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russell Brand

    • @richardj.magoma7804
      @richardj.magoma7804 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you think of essentialism.

  • @debbiemarquis3231
    @debbiemarquis3231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    It should be titled "..the king of vagrancy"

    • @connoroverall580
      @connoroverall580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vagrantenes......philosopher of the public parks and busy streets.

  • @RyanAndTomMaps
    @RyanAndTomMaps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey they Biographics! I love your channel, and the accuracy In which you deliver it. I understand with the vast amount of content you create, there are bound to be some inaccuracies. I wanted to point out that Diogenes was not a Stoic. He is accredited to founding the Cynics, though never officially. The Stoic Philosophy was founded by Zeno of Citium; Whom took to philosophy following the loss of his ship and fortune. He lived from ~334 BC-262 BC, and founded the stoic school in 300 BC. Diogenes lived from ~412 BC-323 BC. So not much of their lives overlapped, and Zeno was far from his philosophical life during such time. While Zeno borrowed heavily from Diogenes; There were some stark differences in their respective philosophies.
    While on the topic of Stoicism.... You should do a video on Marcus Aurelius!

  • @jt______
    @jt______ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Diogenes, the original "I'm a simple man"

  • @francislong5114
    @francislong5114 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was allways thinking what happened to Greece.. Now I know.. thank you.. I did learn of him before, never knew he had so a place in culture..

  • @williamgreenway1785
    @williamgreenway1785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love how Diogenes constantly insulted and trolled Alexander the Great

  • @nmarrs8539
    @nmarrs8539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My man knew the value in not being tied down material things.

  • @jaymcd8577
    @jaymcd8577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perhaps the most Eccentric, and my fav of the ancient philosophers

  • @aaronbertman2406
    @aaronbertman2406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Articulated well enough to entertain and enlighten a layman such as myself. Thank you, Sir.

  • @Florin_Dark
    @Florin_Dark 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If I learned one thing in this video it's the fact that only a 100% self sufficent Philosopher can be a true Philosopher, that is not corruptet in any way.

    • @wanderer3320
      @wanderer3320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You messed up the quote, only a 100% self sufficing philosophers can poop on public floors

  • @LungsOutJem
    @LungsOutJem 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Dude was so close to figuring out Buddhism. 🧘‍♂️

    • @LoudPaintings
      @LoudPaintings 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      J. C. Seems like he did

    • @davyroger3773
      @davyroger3773 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Stoicism and Buddhism are pretty similar in a lot of ways

    • @Ruby321123
      @Ruby321123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Andrew Brent I very much agree.

    • @VulpesFidelis
      @VulpesFidelis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw a lot of Eastern ascetic paths in his stuff, too.

    • @awonoto
      @awonoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably close to Zhuangzi.

  • @captainanopheles4307
    @captainanopheles4307 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "if I was not Alexander, I would hope to be Diogenes."
    "if I was not Diogenes, I would hope to be Diogenes.'
    Also , could the mysterious word 'dog', that appears to spring from nowhere, come from Diogenes?

    • @nikolai9520
      @nikolai9520 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diogenes specifically refers to two breeds of dogs, Molossia and Maltese. The former had a reputation as a hunting dog whereas the latter hunted as well but without being widely known. Diogenes describes himself as being like these dogs, which seem to have tough dispositions.

  • @jessevandermolen3266
    @jessevandermolen3266 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I was listening to your true crime videos every day at work, but then your volume went so far down I couldn’t grasp it. I have cochlear implants so that’s a big part of the problem. But I just found this video and it reminded me that your older videos had great, full volume. Not sure what changed 2-3 months ago, but this is far superior to the last 5 or 6 vids I had to give up on because I couldn’t hear you.

  • @busnello1987
    @busnello1987 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Diógenes is probably my favorite greek philosofer.

  • @zimwillsalvadorthediamondd4434
    @zimwillsalvadorthediamondd4434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    merci .you are a goldmine..........a french admirer of your witty mind

  • @hearinggonebeethoven5787
    @hearinggonebeethoven5787 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Sam O'nella's Animation though. 😂

  • @psfp_2858
    @psfp_2858 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Once diogenes was begging from a statue a person asked why are you begging from a statue he simply replied so i can get used to rejection 😂

  • @DavidSmith-ef4eh
    @DavidSmith-ef4eh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I see Diogenes, I click.

  • @epicmage82
    @epicmage82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently I had an ancient hero, and never knew it. Even having similar views. I'm going to love doing a deep dive on him. ❤️

  • @lordnul1708
    @lordnul1708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He is my favorite of the ancient philosophers. For more modern ones, it's a tie between Crowley and Nietzsche.

    • @richardj.magoma7804
      @richardj.magoma7804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Crowley who?

    • @Vikn01
      @Vikn01 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@richardj.magoma7804 maybe Aleistar Crowley?

    • @andrewcanady6644
      @andrewcanady6644 ปีที่แล้ว

      To you, what makes the modern ones you’ve named stand out?

    • @lordnul1708
      @lordnul1708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewcanady6644 Alister Crowley, when you look at his work (especially the Liber Oz), it's clear that his philosophy centers around free will.
      Nietzsche on the other hand, had his history stand out to me more than his writing. That and the fact that he openly referred to Plato as a bore.

    • @andrewcanady6644
      @andrewcanady6644 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordnul1708 Copy that. Interesting thanks for taking a moment for me today. 🤙🏽

  • @Zeitgeist997
    @Zeitgeist997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @10:48 that is one of the greatest moves ever for him to be able to make a point good enough to make them feed slaves to fatten them up by comparing them to animals living to be slaughtered

  • @maxtew6521
    @maxtew6521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This guy was so punk rock.

  • @sentimental-trooper259
    @sentimental-trooper259 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay! Been asking for this one for awhile! Thank you. Brilliant video as per usual.

  • @Digital_Solace
    @Digital_Solace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    BEHOLD A MAN

  • @bepkororoti2559
    @bepkororoti2559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    and greatest wonder would be if people would find out how much compassion and humility he treasured in his heart behind all of his actions....

  • @Ian-zg7he
    @Ian-zg7he 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Saw a vid on this by Sam O'nella already sadly, but your video still has merit considering it's his entire life as opposed to Sam's telling of humorous anecdotes.

  • @pietervanschalkwyk3700
    @pietervanschalkwyk3700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hardest working team on TH-cam! Thank you for the amazing content.

  • @maerree3664
    @maerree3664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    **People cramming about the upcoming war**
    Diogenes: **Rolling in his wine barrel**

  • @kevinforbesofficial
    @kevinforbesofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    7:03 it's worth noting that Dog is also the symbol for the Cynic Philosophical Movement as a whole. Cynic even comes from the same word as Dog (previous Cynics had taught at a place called the Cynosarges Gymnasium which is probably why.)

  • @depurodinerohomie5006
    @depurodinerohomie5006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like diogenes everytime i have to go get a job.

  • @TheGryfonclaw
    @TheGryfonclaw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Let's talk about that time when Diogenes had a run-in with some pirates..."
    Me: "I feel sorry for the pirates."

  • @danielverissimodeoliveira1729
    @danielverissimodeoliveira1729 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could you make one about Richard F Burton ( the writer, not the actor)?

    • @Burrick
      @Burrick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Daniel Verissimo YES YES YES YES. Man was an all around badass.

  • @ohno5880
    @ohno5880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is reported to have said after Alexander claimed he would want to be diogenes if he weren't Alexander that "If I were not Diogenes I would wish to be Diogenes".
    He was also reported to have walked around with a lantern. When asked what he was doing he proclaimed that he was searching for an honest man (hence the latern). Another story is that Alexander came upon him examining a pile of bones. When he asked what he was doing he said he was searching for Alexander's father's skeleton, but could not distinguish it from a Slave's.
    When asked how he should be buried he said to throw him to the wild animals, when questioned whether he minded this he said "not at all, as long as you give me a stick to defend myself!" When it was pointed out that he would lack awareness to do this he answered "if I lack awareness why should I care what happens to me?"

  • @joaofilipe8497
    @joaofilipe8497 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Favourite one so far. Didn’t know who he was however it was very interesting

  • @michaelcoleman8278
    @michaelcoleman8278 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for providing! A true legend!

  • @handsomed8732
    @handsomed8732 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can you please do one on The Swamp Fox (Francis Marion)?