Regular hybrids still make way more sense as they are much cheaper and can still net you 40 - 50 MPG. Much smaller batteries meaning cheaper replacement and smaller environmental footprint. Toyota has said that for every plugin hybrid, they can make 10 regular hybrids. The plug-in hybrid Mazda CX-90 is like $10k more than the regular CX-90 and Dave Coleman has even said that when the plug in battery is low on power, the plug-in hybrid system acts as a regular hybrid system but it has to drag around a very heavy battery. So that begs the question, why doesn't Mazda just make a regular hybrid already if their plug in hybrid system reverts to regular hybrid operation when the battery is nearly depleted...I needed a CX-30 hybrid getting 200 HP and 45 MPG like yesterday
We LOVE ours!! Most of the driving has been using the EV mode, except when we go on our 1100 MI roadtrip to the US. Since we have returned from our March Break trip, we have put about $20 gas into it. With mostly city driving, this car is Fantastic!!!
"The world needs a mixture of different solutions" This is something that EV owners do not understand. Most of us car ppl like our cars and having more options is better, but we have a section of the population cheering on the destruction of ICE cars, even if that means the lower classes can't buy a car because of rising production costs. Let us be happy there is choice.
Lower classes can't buy new cars, or at least they shouldn't be buying new cars (it's a terrible investment - it'll keep you lower-class for life). There are PLENTY of good options for ICE used cars. Cars last 20-30 years. So selling new ICE engines today means we are stuck with those ICE engines well into the future. Why not give rebates to incentivize the move to hybrids (as well as plug-in hybrids and electric) - let people buy full-ICE cars if they like, but let's give big incentives for people to do what we know to be socially-optimal.
@@MR3DDevby being completely against it just the way beer companies and pharmaceutical companies did with marijuana. Not a fan of EVs but definitely not a fan of big lobbying agencies. They are a big interloper to the free market
@@falcorzed I dont follow the comparison with juana, but the rushing was caused by the government and the current push towards so called green solutions
Here in New Zealand, PHEV, EV and Diesel vehicles are subject to a Road User Tax depending on the weight of the vehicle ranging from $72($44USD) - $600($367 USD) per 1000 kilometres, Petrol and HEV vehicles are exempt as the road user tax is paid at the pump, this makes the HEV more attractive just on the lack of admin alone as there are hefty fines for not paying the RUC tax.
I bought my 2022 NX 450h+ PHEV as a better built, more comfortable alternative to the Model Y, which were about the same price. Now used 2022 Model Ys are about CAD$50K, while my car is still worth at least CAD$70K.
Hello. I agree with you, but here in Norway plugin hybrids has got so high taxes that they are nearly impossible to buy and from 2025 the taxes will increase even more. Our son bought a Toyota Rav4 plugin hybrid and paid aprox 75.000 USD in Norwegian Kroner, while my wife and I have bought a Lexus RZ Executive model and paid aprox 60.000 USD, but in Norway the infrastructure for evs is good, and for us and our driving the range for the RZ is perfect and with normal driving here in Europe the range of the RZ has a perfect balance for us where you don't have too heavy batteries you normally don't need. We bought the RZ because I got disabled and paralyzed from a vaccine. Now I'm not allowed to drive myself and got hypersensitive for vibrations and road noice where after some testing the RZ was the only car I can drive as a passanger without being totally exhausted. But our authorities have forgotten a lot of industries where people need heavy towing and partly offroad driving in their work, and because of the higher taxes vehicles needed for this like the new Toyota LC 250 will be too costly at more than 120.000 USD and might go up to aprox 150.0000 USD as a 2 seater work truck. This is a completely disaster because we don't have any zero emizsion vehicles for such transport and people have to keep their older vehicles all too long. The regulation with higher taxes was made already when I bought my 2018 LC 150, and the authorithies told we would have zero emission vehicles for all industries in 2025, but we haven't got usable commercial vehicles for such needs. Because of the huge increase of vehicles on the roads the environmental effect of the taxfree evs might not be that big, but passenger transport and commercial vehicles for transport on public roads near the cities with evs are successful for local emissions But to give massive increased taxes on vehicles for industries the society is depending of isn't wise, such as contractors, water and sewage, and vehicles needed in geotechnical and hydrogeological investigations.
Nice review David,Toyota builds the best hybrids hands down, and has a track record of over 25 years with the Prius sedan, the EV charging infrastructure in Canada is a joke in the last 5 or so years i have traveled to almost every major city in Canada and you see very few charging specific places , secondly i live in Winnipeg and you know how extreme out winters get here and EV owners who charge at home or work say in the winter months her when it reaches - 25 to 30 it takes at least 1 hour to pre condition the battery to charge unless you remember to tell it to do so and from a full charge one woman with a model long range RWD told me here range in these temps never exceeds 60% range from full at these temps and she charges and parks her car in a garage, even though we have the 2nd cheapest hydro rates in Canada next to Quebec, i would still buy a PHEV before an BEV , in Manitoba we get $4000 rebate on top of the federal $5000 rebate , the silly part is there's a time limit on it, I don't know what the rebate is for a PHEV, it is still better than a BEV and my daily driving is 100 kms , i think solid state batteries will be the way to go over Lithium ion in the future Wpg to Vancouver you'd only spend a max of 1-1 1/2 hrs charge time in that distance including B&B breaks and stretch your legs, niece wants a new Grand Highlander and got scared off from the recall from the airbag curtain issue, they'll get one she loves the V6 with 8 speed auto they have now, it also has some 260kms on it, the crazy thing is it still runs like new and gets crazy fuel economy, better than the Subaru they had before it, great video 👍
Hopefully not too long because I'd like one but not if it takes like three years. It would be a shame for Toyota to make an all new performance automatic transmission only to put it in one car. Hopefully within those three years Toyota decides to ditch the hideous amounts of gloss black plastic in the interior that doesn't belong anywhere near a performance car like that.
Hi David. I'm heading toward the plug-in hybrid for my next car. I'm very interested in the new gen Rav4 Prime and wondering if you think it is worth waiting for the new gen. (~2026) or go with one of he last years of the old gen?
David - please give us a video that explains why Toyota doesn't make more of these (e.g., the Sienna). And why they don't ramp up production on the ones they do make (e.g., the RAV4 Prime)?\.
David, I think waiting 6 months to use "old gas" is too long of an interval for the engine to be going without any use. Machines need to be used to stay in good working order. I think using the gas engine about once a month would be beneficial to the engine over the long term. The six months time interval would be good just to change the oil.
I imagine that most people would run the engine at least a little bit, here and there, maintaining the working parts of it. But one might still need to make a conscience effort to use the entire tank of gas. In this type of scenario, I’d likely change the oil once yearly.
Last filled up March 31 and have 2 lines left on gas tank. So I guess I will be filling up soon. 2018 Toyota Prius Prime PHEV, the infotainment center console is useless.
Sir. I am Mayank from New Delhi-India. M ur big fan. Please help me choose which ‘plug-in Hybrid’ should I go for Porche Caynee or Lexus RX? Though Caynee is available in India and RX is yet to come. But I can wait.
2018 Toyota Prius Prime Fully loaded PHEV is great. Came from a 2003 Toyota Matrix XR in summer of 2023, I miss the cargo space of the Matrix. Does the 2025 Crown Signa look like the Matrix?
I don’t disagree with you at all, but I would emphasize that you will be using fuel so don’t buy a plug-in thinking you could get away with not doing that. There are maintenance cycles. They have to run on the engine when you need physical heat because many plug-in hybrids do not have heat pumps, so keep these things in mind especially if you live in Northern climates. They are a great solution and if they’re well crafted and efficient then you should be able to get a small amount of all EV range anywhere from 30 to 40 miles and your efficiency because you’re faithfully plugging it inshould remain very high reducing your fuel cost for the vehicle. 10:05
If the Lexus is built in Japan, how do you get any rebate??? I thought all rebates in USA had to be from an American built fully electric or plug-in hybrid? Is Canada different on rebates?
You can never appreciate the superiority and goodness of the 2024 Lexus RX450h+ until you own one. I have had LS500, I currently own LX 570, I have had different Mercedes Benz. I am skeptical about EVs but decided to get the 450h+ and I have no regret. The 14 gallons tank gives me 500 miles while full charge gives 37 miles. You can’t beat that. Full tank cost me approximately $45 while full charge usually cost $2.60. My commute to the office from my home is about 6 miles so I basically use EV mode most of the time. The only time I use hybrid mode using gas is when I drive more than 36 miles. The car drives excellently and very quiet too. I am pretty sure the resale value is going to be great going by the fact that it is currently scarce to come by and by the time most people know about its efficiency and practicality, it would be in high demand.
How many gallons can you fill up with the Lexus when the gauge indicates that the tank is empty? In my car, I've never been able to fill more than 38 liters (10 gallons). According to the dealer, a certain number of gallons is reserved to cool the fuel pump. At high speeds on the highway in Germany, I have to refuel almost every 2 hours.
I have to kindly disagree as PHEV doesn't offer that much of the benefit over BEV in battery cost, as the battery costs much more than a HEV and it's mpg benefits isn't that much over a HEV while costing significantly more. PHEV is much closer to my eyes with the so called ER-BEV that the border between the two seems indistinct. I believe hybrid vehicles, HEV, PHEV will see an enormous cost performance benefit if they switch to LFP/LFPM battery over from the current NMH/NMC battery chemistry.
I had a 2022 RX 450H and I was not overly impressed, so I sold it. I also have a GX460, just a lovely vehicle! I also just purchased a Tesla Model S, and I absolutely believe Tesla and BEV is the future. And Super Chargers are pretty much everywhere, no range anxity at all, and chargers are so EASY to use. I will keep my Lexus, but the Model S is my preferred drive any more!!
government is not suppose to interfere in the free market, this is what is happening. Look up toyota 1 :6:90 rule, can you do a video on this Automotive press
PHEV is great, but why not add a "Plug Out" capability too? That way I can use the car as a mobile generator during a power outage or while camping or when I want to recharge some other electric devices like an electric bicycle or ATV.
@@davet7184 That's great, but it's not powerful enough to power my home refrigerator and furnace during a power outage. Having that capability is what I meant by a "mobile generator"
@@davet7184 I already do have a generator to power my house. I just don't think it would be very hard to make a car do the same thing. The main advantage would be the car-generator would create less noise and wouldn't need to be running unless the battery gets low.
That’s where the gas engine is kick in. Plus, it can be used as a temporary generator. You can also use that chance to look for charger to charge up a bit.
I'm not sold on this,i think regular hybrid still makes more sense,the coast to replace that 🔋 is way more expensive than a regular hybrid. I own a 2013 lexus is300h with 150.000kms no problems until now,just 2 recall but nothing special!
The battery warranty is 10 years or 240K. If you do ~50-70KM a day the PHEV makes a HUGE difference to your gas bill. We bought the Executive package in Feb 2023 and then I heard that the PHEV was coming to Canada. I switched to it for about $2-4K more. It was definitely worth spending the extra. I figure I have already saved $5-600 in gas. By end of year 1 I will have paid for my Chargepoint Charger. After about 3 years the car will have saved the difference in gas.
I prefer gas-only cars for now... and also the government not telling me what to do. I don't have my own house yet so there's no where to charge. Lugging around any extra battery weight, even if it's just a normal hybrid, seems excessive for my normal commute. The infrastructure is not there. We don't even have affordable housing. If we really care about the environment then we should all reduce our usage and waste.
Full hybrids like Toyota already proven in huge reduction of CO2 with excellent fuel consumption as bonus. PHEV is even better, giving almost zero fuel.consumption and carbon foot print for short distance drives.
EVs and Hybrids are only for people who live in big cities and have a regular commute. The problem is that people who live in big cities support laws hat force the rest of us to live like they do.
I would say small cities where people have homes with garages that they can charge it. Big cities there aren't enough public charging infrastructure and they cost arm & leg to use.
Your PHEV shown here way more expensive same as your wife one. My 2016 Chevy Volt for 5 years paid half the price to the new one it’s like 50% EV incentives. May have longer range than your both phev. I drive 99 % electric mode .
Regular hybrids still make way more sense as they are much cheaper and can still net you 40 - 50 MPG. Much smaller batteries meaning cheaper replacement and smaller environmental footprint. Toyota has said that for every plugin hybrid, they can make 10 regular hybrids. The plug-in hybrid Mazda CX-90 is like $10k more than the regular CX-90 and Dave Coleman has even said that when the plug in battery is low on power, the plug-in hybrid system acts as a regular hybrid system but it has to drag around a very heavy battery. So that begs the question, why doesn't Mazda just make a regular hybrid already if their plug in hybrid system reverts to regular hybrid operation when the battery is nearly depleted...I needed a CX-30 hybrid getting 200 HP and 45 MPG like yesterday
Great points!
We LOVE ours!! Most of the driving has been using the EV mode, except when we go on our 1100 MI roadtrip to the US. Since we have returned from our March Break trip, we have put about $20 gas into it. With mostly city driving, this car is Fantastic!!!
GREAT insight, David. I wish more content creators understood the auto industry as much as you do. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
Until solid state batteries make the quantum leap, the smaller the battery the better.
I agree! Until these cars can get 1k miles in a charge, I would not feel comfortable driving in long trips.
"The world needs a mixture of different solutions" This is something that EV owners do not understand. Most of us car ppl like our cars and having more options is better, but we have a section of the population cheering on the destruction of ICE cars, even if that means the lower classes can't buy a car because of rising production costs.
Let us be happy there is choice.
Lower classes can't buy new cars, or at least they shouldn't be buying new cars (it's a terrible investment - it'll keep you lower-class for life). There are PLENTY of good options for ICE used cars. Cars last 20-30 years. So selling new ICE engines today means we are stuck with those ICE engines well into the future. Why not give rebates to incentivize the move to hybrids (as well as plug-in hybrids and electric) - let people buy full-ICE cars if they like, but let's give big incentives for people to do what we know to be socially-optimal.
The problem is these option should have been available 30 years ago not now. Thank oil companies for rushing things now.
@@falcorzed how did oil companies rushed this?
@@MR3DDevby being completely against it just the way beer companies and pharmaceutical companies did with marijuana. Not a fan of EVs but definitely not a fan of big lobbying agencies. They are a big interloper to the free market
@@falcorzed I dont follow the comparison with juana, but the rushing was caused by the government and the current push towards so called green solutions
Here in New Zealand, PHEV, EV and Diesel vehicles are subject to a Road User Tax depending on the weight of the vehicle ranging from $72($44USD) - $600($367 USD) per 1000 kilometres, Petrol and HEV vehicles are exempt as the road user tax is paid at the pump, this makes the HEV more attractive just on the lack of admin alone as there are hefty fines for not paying the RUC tax.
I bought my 2022 NX 450h+ PHEV as a better built, more comfortable alternative to the Model Y, which were about the same price. Now used 2022 Model Ys are about CAD$50K, while my car is still worth at least CAD$70K.
Hell yes! The Tesla build quality isn't within the same universe as Lexus.
...................................... Sadly you did NOT buy the"F" Sport Model...you RELLY MISSED this but close Sorta!
@@donaldbanner2185 what makes you think I did not buy the NX 450h+ F-Sport model?
YESssssssssss! & the LEXUS 450h+ "F" Sport is the VERY Best of the Best!
Hello. I agree with you, but here in Norway plugin hybrids has got so high taxes that they are nearly impossible to buy and from 2025 the taxes will increase even more. Our son bought a Toyota Rav4 plugin hybrid and paid aprox 75.000 USD in Norwegian Kroner, while my wife and I have bought a Lexus RZ Executive model and paid aprox 60.000 USD, but in Norway the infrastructure for evs is good, and for us and our driving the range for the RZ is perfect and with normal driving here in Europe the range of the RZ has a perfect balance for us where you don't have too heavy batteries you normally don't need. We bought the RZ because I got disabled and paralyzed from a vaccine. Now I'm not allowed to drive myself and got hypersensitive for vibrations and road noice where after some testing the RZ was the only car I can drive as a passanger without being totally exhausted. But our authorities have forgotten a lot of industries where people need heavy towing and partly offroad driving in their work, and because of the higher taxes vehicles needed for this like the new Toyota LC 250 will be too costly at more than 120.000 USD and might go up to aprox 150.0000 USD as a 2 seater work truck. This is a completely disaster because we don't have any zero emizsion vehicles for such transport and people have to keep their older vehicles all too long. The regulation with higher taxes was made already when I bought my 2018 LC 150, and the authorithies told we would have zero emission vehicles for all industries in 2025, but we haven't got usable commercial vehicles for such needs. Because of the huge increase of vehicles on the roads the environmental effect of the taxfree evs might not be that big, but passenger transport and commercial vehicles for transport on public roads near the cities with evs are successful for local emissions But to give massive increased taxes on vehicles for industries the society is depending of isn't wise, such as contractors, water and sewage, and vehicles needed in geotechnical and hydrogeological investigations.
Nice review David,Toyota builds the best hybrids hands down, and has a track record of over 25 years with the Prius sedan, the EV charging infrastructure in Canada is a joke in the last 5 or so years i have traveled to almost every major city in Canada and you see very few charging specific places , secondly i live in Winnipeg and you know how extreme out winters get here and EV owners who charge at home or work say in the winter months her when it reaches - 25 to 30 it takes at least 1 hour to pre condition the battery to charge unless you remember to tell it to do so and from a full charge one woman with a model long range RWD told me here range in these temps never exceeds 60% range from full at these temps and she charges and parks her car in a garage, even though we have the 2nd cheapest hydro rates in Canada next to Quebec, i would still buy a PHEV before an BEV , in Manitoba we get $4000 rebate on top of the federal $5000 rebate , the silly part is there's a time limit on it, I don't know what the rebate is for a PHEV, it is still better than a BEV and my daily driving is 100 kms , i think solid state batteries will be the way to go over Lithium ion in the future Wpg to Vancouver you'd only spend a max of 1-1 1/2 hrs charge time in that distance including B&B breaks and stretch your legs, niece wants a new Grand Highlander and got scared off from the recall from the airbag curtain issue, they'll get one she loves the V6 with 8 speed auto they have now, it also has some 260kms on it, the crazy thing is it still runs like new and gets crazy fuel economy, better than the Subaru they had before it, great video 👍
Love your videos, do you think we’ll be getting an automatic transmission option on the GR Corolla? If so, how long do you think it will take?
Hopefully not too long because I'd like one but not if it takes like three years. It would be a shame for Toyota to make an all new performance automatic transmission only to put it in one car. Hopefully within those three years Toyota decides to ditch the hideous amounts of gloss black plastic in the interior that doesn't belong anywhere near a performance car like that.
Hi David. I'm heading toward the plug-in hybrid for my next car. I'm very interested in the new gen Rav4 Prime and wondering if you think it is worth waiting for the new gen. (~2026) or go with one of he last years of the old gen?
Plug ins do make a lot of sense. For everyday use, you can just use the electric power and then if you have to drive further, you're covered as well.
Electric batteries are costly to replace.
David - please give us a video that explains why Toyota doesn't make more of these (e.g., the Sienna). And why they don't ramp up production on the ones they do make (e.g., the RAV4 Prime)?\.
David, I think waiting 6 months to use "old gas" is too long of an interval for the engine to be going without any use. Machines need to be used to stay in good working order. I think using the gas engine about once a month would be beneficial to the engine over the long term. The six months time interval would be good just to change the oil.
I imagine that most people would run the engine at least a little bit, here and there, maintaining the working parts of it. But one might still need to make a conscience effort to use the entire tank of gas. In this type of scenario, I’d likely change the oil once yearly.
Last filled up March 31 and have 2 lines left on gas tank. So I guess I will be filling up soon. 2018 Toyota Prius Prime PHEV, the infotainment center console is useless.
Why does Totota say 16,000km or 12 months for an oil change on a Toyota PHEV?
Sir. I am Mayank from New Delhi-India. M ur big fan.
Please help me choose which ‘plug-in Hybrid’ should I go for Porche Caynee or Lexus RX?
Though Caynee is available in India and RX is yet to come. But I can wait.
2018 Toyota Prius Prime Fully loaded PHEV is great. Came from a 2003 Toyota Matrix XR in summer of 2023, I miss the cargo space of the Matrix.
Does the 2025 Crown Signa look like the Matrix?
I don’t disagree with you at all, but I would emphasize that you will be using fuel so don’t buy a plug-in thinking you could get away with not doing that. There are maintenance cycles. They have to run on the engine when you need physical heat because many plug-in hybrids do not have heat pumps, so keep these things in mind especially if you live in Northern climates. They are a great solution and if they’re well crafted and efficient then you should be able to get a small amount of all EV range anywhere from 30 to 40 miles and your efficiency because you’re faithfully plugging it inshould remain very high reducing your fuel cost for the vehicle. 10:05
It's ALL About Control !!!
If the Lexus is built in Japan, how do you get any rebate??? I thought all rebates in USA had to be from an American built fully electric or plug-in hybrid? Is Canada different on rebates?
Lease it and they give you $7500 credit. Then buy it outright.
You can never appreciate the superiority and goodness of the 2024 Lexus RX450h+ until you own one. I have had LS500, I currently own LX 570, I have had different Mercedes Benz. I am skeptical about EVs but decided to get the 450h+ and I have no regret. The 14 gallons tank gives me 500 miles while full charge gives 37 miles. You can’t beat that. Full tank cost me approximately $45 while full charge usually cost $2.60. My commute to the office from my home is about 6 miles so I basically use EV mode most of the time. The only time I use hybrid mode using gas is when I drive more than 36 miles. The car drives excellently and very quiet too. I am pretty sure the resale value is going to be great going by the fact that it is currently scarce to come by and by the time most people know about its efficiency and practicality, it would be in high demand.
How many gallons can you fill up with the Lexus when the gauge indicates that the tank is empty? In my car, I've never been able to fill more than 38 liters (10 gallons). According to the dealer, a certain number of gallons is reserved to cool the fuel pump. At high speeds on the highway in Germany, I have to refuel almost every 2 hours.
Amazing
I have to kindly disagree as PHEV doesn't offer that much of the benefit over BEV in battery cost, as the battery costs much more than a HEV and it's mpg benefits isn't that much over a HEV while costing significantly more. PHEV is much closer to my eyes with the so called ER-BEV that the border between the two seems indistinct. I believe hybrid vehicles, HEV, PHEV will see an enormous cost performance benefit if they switch to LFP/LFPM battery over from the current NMH/NMC battery chemistry.
V6 V8 naturally aspirated engines all we need for Lexus let the Toyota get the EV/ Hybrid
I had a 2022 RX 450H and I was not overly impressed, so I sold it. I also have a GX460, just a lovely vehicle!
I also just purchased a Tesla Model S, and I absolutely believe Tesla and BEV is the future. And Super Chargers are pretty much everywhere, no range anxity at all, and chargers are so EASY to use. I will keep my Lexus, but the Model S is my preferred drive any more!!
government is not suppose to interfere in the free market, this is what is happening. Look up toyota 1 :6:90 rule, can you do a video on this Automotive press
Hybrids will bring back awesome sounding NA engine, just look at Bugatti Tourbillon, here's hoping for a N/A hybrid sports car from Toyota
Toyota tundra new design v6 twin turbo for good gas miles , good solutions = recall engine
Using the gas up only once in six months is really good enough? I wonder if all the PHEV makers say the same thing or not.
PHEV is great, but why not add a "Plug Out" capability too? That way I can use the car as a mobile generator during a power outage or while camping or when I want to recharge some other electric devices like an electric bicycle or ATV.
There is a 1500w receptacle in the trunk, so you can do that. Not the most efficient way to charge things, but it is possible.
@@davet7184 That's great, but it's not powerful enough to power my home refrigerator and furnace during a power outage. Having that capability is what I meant by a "mobile generator"
@@Prepare2Surviveget a Generic for that purpose... I wouldn't buy a car expecting it to power my home.
@@davet7184 I already do have a generator to power my house. I just don't think it would be very hard to make a car do the same thing. The main advantage would be the car-generator would create less noise and wouldn't need to be running unless the battery gets low.
PHEVs are good but good instrastucture still is an issue. Especially at rental apartments and public chargers
That’s where the gas engine is kick in. Plus, it can be used as a temporary generator. You can also use that chance to look for charger to charge up a bit.
You can use a standard wall plug to charge overnight. It will take about 12h to fully charge, but it can be done on a standard wall plug.
I'm not sold on this,i think regular hybrid still makes more sense,the coast to replace that 🔋 is way more expensive than a regular hybrid.
I own a 2013 lexus is300h with 150.000kms no problems until now,just 2 recall but nothing special!
The battery warranty is 10 years or 240K. If you do ~50-70KM a day the PHEV makes a HUGE difference to your gas bill. We bought the Executive package in Feb 2023 and then I heard that the PHEV was coming to Canada. I switched to it for about $2-4K more. It was definitely worth spending the extra. I figure I have already saved $5-600 in gas. By end of year 1 I will have paid for my Chargepoint Charger. After about 3 years the car will have saved the difference in gas.
I prefer gas-only cars for now... and also the government not telling me what to do. I don't have my own house yet so there's no where to charge. Lugging around any extra battery weight, even if it's just a normal hybrid, seems excessive for my normal commute. The infrastructure is not there. We don't even have affordable housing. If we really care about the environment then we should all reduce our usage and waste.
You don't F with TMC Strategic Planners. Smartest MOFOs I've ever come across. Sorry Jim Farley... 😮
BYD taking the lead
Don’t like the nose of this rx. Like the previous design
Remove the premium on plugins then it's gonna be a no brainer.
Full hybrids like Toyota already proven in huge reduction of CO2 with excellent fuel consumption as bonus.
PHEV is even better, giving almost zero fuel.consumption and carbon foot print for short distance drives.
Hard Pass‼️. The grid can hardly handle the electricity ⚡️ requirements now. I prefer Gasoline ⛽️ 🏎️
EVs and Hybrids are only for people who live in big cities and have a regular commute. The problem is that people who live in big cities support laws hat force the rest of us to live like they do.
I would say small cities where people have homes with garages that they can charge it. Big cities there aren't enough public charging infrastructure and they cost arm & leg to use.
Your PHEV shown here way more expensive same as your wife one. My 2016 Chevy Volt for 5 years paid half the price to the new one it’s like 50% EV incentives. May have longer range than your both phev. I drive 99 % electric mode .
best solutions do not cost $45-80,000 to purchase.
get more miles but more systems add on ( high volt battery , inverter , transmission .. ) and will more cost on repair finally not to me
No never ever hybrids always