Swirling Tutorial on a guitar body with Humbrol Paints Borax Method swirl
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2014
- Inside the Luthier's Shop with BigDGuitars.com. I have continued to swirl bodies with different paints. Two key things that I have learned is that you need the pipettes to flow the paint out and you need the paint to sit in the water a little bit longer. I was doing 3-5 mins and that was not it. 5-7 is what is working best
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Nice! Best & informative video I've seen as I'm researching this method & technique for myself!!
I love this concept & look!! Thank you for the video!!!
I would normally have 3-4 questions for you, but you provided answers to all of them within your video!
This video not only answered all the questions I had for all the spray can version videos of this style paint job, but it resolves most of the problems I experienced with my first test run using spray cans by convincing me to go with the regular canned oil-based enamel paints & droppers (pipettes) method for better overall color control, longer working time & smoother application!!!
I'm getting ready to paint my bassist's 1st bass guitar as a gift from his wife for their anniversary & I'm seriously considering using this technique, especially after my 1st test run (using the spray can version of this style) on a large plastic pencil box that I primed with Rust-Oleum (flat white) I then sprayed a combination of black Krylon automotive enamel & Rust-Oleum metallic charcoal & metallic silver
(all gloss) into a 32 gal trash can half-full of fresh Florida well water. (approx 72 degrees +/-)
After maybe 2 minutes of spraying I could already see the paint starting to solidify so I chose to stop there (it's only a test run) & shake the edges of the trash can to mix the colors up in lieu of stirring it with a stick. I've seen a few videos where solidified spray paint stuck to the stir stick & ended up clumping together ruining the swirl pattern & leaving large areas of water with no paint!
I'm fairly satisfied with the overall results except for the areas where the paint globbed/clumped up which will require some serious sanding prior too & in-between clear coats!?
... I've since read that I maybe should have used all flat paints until final gloss clear-coat, but I'm not sure if that's the reason for globs/clumps of extra paint.
THANK YOU AGAIN!!!
Been thinking about swirling a guitar body, and this explains it all.
Very nice! Love the "space" effect. It looks like it needs graphic of the Silver Surfer on the tail end or just zooming by the neck.
I like this, thanks BigD.
I love your swirling videos !!
That looks incredible
Great video thanks a million always great stuff from you.That looks nice
Very, very cool! Nice job on an informative video. Thank you.
Fantastic, that's the relevant word. I wish my new Mockingbird was swirled like that.
Seeing this guitar makes me think about "Surfing with the Alien" album art.
I did this with an Ibanez guitar body a couple of years ago. Really good video cool guitar!
+MrAlexMunday thanks!
I would love to see you doing a PAW swirl using this method. It would turn out fantastic!
I've been watching quite a few of your videos and really enjoy your content. Any tips on finishing a swirled guitar?
Fantastic tutorial video
looks awesome
Nice work
Wondering if u can tell me what im missing out
When i put the paint in the water it films up fast so when i want to swirl it i all just sticks to the stick im using to swirl.
Hello! Love your tutorials...i am attempting dipping chopper fenders and having alot of frustration and errors, my practice pieces come out sweet using a smaller bucket..however when i am happy with colors and ready to dip the fenders in the large bin as soon as i load the paint on the water it skims over almost immediately! I am using testors. The recommended temp of 78 makes it dry out even faster than when the water is cooler! After seeing all your tutorials are you finding humbrol to be the best? If so is it imperative to leave the temp at 78 and how much borax do i need for a 45 gallon bin? I was putting in 4 cups is that too much? Sorry for the lengthy sob story i spent the whole day trying to get it right. .. metallic paint def doesn't work either for me!! help!!!
Hey, I was inspired to swirl my guitar with this same method and used the Humbrol paints. I was wondering if you can recommend an aerosol finish option. I'm going with Deft aerosol lacquer for my final coat. Is there anything I should do to the enamel swirl before I proceed? Any other tips?
After reading many forums/watching plenty of these videos, I'm ready to give it a go. The only thing I am unsure about at the moment is, do you need to use much (if any) paint thinner for the Humbrol paints?
Do you sand down to get a smooth texture before clear-coat?
Where can you get those eye dropper looking things? Also does the paint get thinned at all or just use it straight out of the bottle?
Awesome !!!
where do you get the paint? by the way great job on the red and silver. I have an old electric guitar i think i am going to do this to. I will shoot some video of it and see how it turns out.
Could you do this with a guitar that has a grain on the finish? Or would the paint flow into the grain?
I followed your SOP but my paint clumped when I ran the wood stick thru the paint.. I thinned the Humbrol with a couple drop of thinner in ea can. Does room temp and humidity play a big part?
Hey, love your videos. I've never heard you explain what the borax is for, or what it does. Does it add surface tension to the water so the paint floats better? Go Tigers.
Does the paint lay plat enough to clear coat over it and flow out level?
friend, please tell me how many ml. paint just about necessary for painting one deck? just do not know how much to buy
I used the same colours but because my bucket was too small i could not go side to side which is a very important part of the hole process that and clearing away the surface. I found the silver bubbles and didnt mix well at all. Also used testers model paint as the paint you use is banned in my country for being too toxic.
Very nice! What is it you did with the hair dryer? How did that help with any clots or drips?
it helps blow out the water that's trapped in some of the bubbles.
What kind of clear are you going to use on that ?
Great video!! Thanks for sharing.
Does the water not enter the cavities and cause the guitar body / neck to swell when it's dipped?
+Bigfoot Guitars The guitar is primed and its dipped for a few seconds. So its nothing that damages the body.
-Derek
+BigDGuitars - Thanks mate. I guess I'll just let it dry out thoroughly. Also, I'm assuming there's no kind of level sanding done to this coat before the clear coats are sprayed?
How much does this whole process cost? I would want to do a black and green
I personally like it when there are bigger swatches or swirls of one main color with just a few other colors for effect. I have done paintings with these swirl patterns and the ones that sell the best are like how I described. Just a thought.
+Pike Evans do you also use humbrol to do you swirls? im battling here in south africa to find suitable paints
Can you do this but with one color? I just want to paint my guitar black.
do you sand the guitar and remove the paint and then apply the primer or just apply the primer on top of the paint? that the only question I got before I try my first swirl.
I built this body. But if you have a body made already you need to scuff it up so that the paint sticks. So hit it with something like 240 grit sand paper and then prime it. It will be ready to dip then.
***** it may sound dumb but if my guitar paint is matte, do I still sand it or I can just apply the primer ?
If I'm honest, I'm not a big fan of the visual effect. However, I would love to see something with just 2 colours that are slightly different shades of one another. I'm currently doing a Goldtop myself, and I ended up, quite by accident with a neat effect when I cleaned the gold paint to ready it for clear. Must have burned through it a bit with the lighter fluid or something. Anyway...some sort of really subtle reaction took place and I managed to seal it with clear. I immediately thought of you and wondered if this would work, a little more deliberately with a single colour in 2 different shades? Nice work btw:-)
metallics always react differently. Going to hobby shop tonight to get some more paints.
Nice. Seems like you really have this worked out now though.
What if you get bubbles, what can you to prevent them?
I was just checking out your video. Aren't you worried about the wood checking super wet? I would think the water enters the holes in the body though the wiring routes?
its in for a few seconds and it painted. I haven't had any swelling issues. If I left if it for a few mins then maybe.
Thanks for the input. Great videos, keep up the good work. I'm going to give this Swirl a Whirl. Maybe I'll make my first video, and post it.
hheidrick j
Is there any way to do this without borax? I was going to go pick some up, but apparently it´s illegal to buy here in Sweden..
borax is for softening the water but it is also used as a detergent booster, depending on your water quality you may not need it, a drop of detergent to make the paint flow on the surface may be enough
The pipettes don't leave enough paint on the water. A large dropper or just pour the paint works way better.
Does it have to be Humbrol paints or any Enamel paint will do the work?
Rodrigo Serra any enamel
Moving it side to side creates a forced curvy pattern. Spinning the guitar one way around while dipping it into the water creates a smoother finish.
can you elaborate on spinning? Trying to figure out best way to do this for my build
@@Stewicidal11 I meant to say rotate it on his own Z axis while you dip it, like the rotation of the Earth is always following one way, so you end up with a spiral finish instead of this edgy curves. Like peeling an apple with a knife from a single cut, it follows the same movement I was talking about.
That being said, I was really into the swirl finish until I decided to go all solid white and I liked it more. It's timeless and swirls are like trendy, and trends tend to die. You will end up bored of it sooner than later, at least that hapenned to me and I'm happy with my all white custom guitar.
What does the borax actually do in this process?
It is necessary to use borax?
Hey is that necessary To use some borax with the enamel paint ?
I have done it both ways. It just depends on what you want to do... either way the paint has to be flowy
Love it, but there's a next level w/ this guitar specifically.... Don't mind me, I'm contemplating.
I'm working my way up to doing a swirl, I'm wondering what clear is best? Will water based clear work over Humbrol?
Thanks very much!
the jimi hendrix swirl I did I used an automotive 2 part. that worked out really nice. You can use the humbrol clear I am assuming. you may need a can or two.
It is work without borax?
special paint?
I think the silver was the wrong choice but the video was pretty helpful
why the borax?
"Pine" and "guitar body" should NOT be in the same sentence.
+The Trash Man the first teles where made from pine.
BigDGuitars - Now they're made out of much tougher woods, pine can easily dent, it's just not the optimal wood for guitar building.
the borax is a horrible method dude. you can see why
What's best?
Awesome!