Dark Phoenix: The End Of Fox's X-Men Franchise Was A Disaster

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  • The X-Men franchise ended with a whimper rather than a bang over at 20th Century Fox with Dark Phoenix. This big-budget X-Men movie was supposed to finally do justice to the Dark Phoenix saga, but instead was the final nail in the franchise's coffin. While the Fox X-Men franchise has been somewhat redeemed by Deadpool & Wolverine, in this episode of Awfully Good, our own Jesse Shade revisits the disastrous climax of a highly uneven franchise.
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  • @LeonardoKlotz
    @LeonardoKlotz วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Unpopular opinion:
    I found Simon Kinberg's direction pretty solid
    He was able to give the movie an identity of its own, rather than trying to replicate Bryan Singer's direction
    Unlike Brett Ratner tried to do in The Last Stand

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Jesse Shade is the best X-Man since Dazzler.

  • @zachryder3150
    @zachryder3150 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    New Mutants: Am I a joke to you?
    *YES!*

  • @yudhabagaskara98
    @yudhabagaskara98 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    First class saga should've been ended after Days of Future Past

    • @alienboy1322
      @alienboy1322 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Days of Future's Past was great.

    • @RioFordays
      @RioFordays 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It should have ended at First Class, actually.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      X-Men Days of Future Past is possibly the greatest superhero movie ever made. It's really hard to live up to that. I think apocalypse did a pretty good job of following up first class at least

    • @alienboy1322
      @alienboy1322 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@LukeLovesRose
      I think Days of Future Past may be my favorite X Men film. Deadpool and Wolverine is second.

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@alienboy1322 Right?
      I think there are too many fans that want mindless action like we see in The Eternals set to the X-Men 97 theme. But what we see in the Fox X-Men films can hit so much deeper. It hits us on a more human level, especially when the movie is great.
      That being said, I don't think Iceman will ever look as effective and amazing as he does in Days of Future Past... even if he's on screen for such a short time

  • @KoolKeithProductions
    @KoolKeithProductions 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I loved that ppl used to bash X3 as a bad Dark Phoenix adaptation ....until they saw a BAD MOVIE PERIOD about Dark Phoenix. lol

  • @Zice033
    @Zice033 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm kinda an outlier in internet CBM Fan circles in which I will always take "Too Silly" over "Too Dour". Life is sad enough.

  • @BigMob05
    @BigMob05 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm STILL disappointed They didn't make Storm a stand-alone Movie Using Both Halle Berry & Alexandra Shipp.

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I loved Hans Zimmer's score so much that I made a video of the first AVENGERS with the theme "Gap" and "Reckless"
    And one of VENOM with theme "Deletion"

  • @Bondfan1995
    @Bondfan1995 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dark Phoenix is the Freddy’s Revenge of the X-Men Franchise, in terms of the subtext.

  • @henrywallacesghost5883
    @henrywallacesghost5883 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I thought it couldn't get worse than Apocalypse, but Dark Phoenix proved me wrong.

  • @charlesfaure1189
    @charlesfaure1189 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    "Let's replace Famke Janssen with the worst actress from Game of Thrones."

    • @mauriesl
      @mauriesl 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      One of the biggest questions in our modern times; is there anyone who thinks Sophie Turner can act?

  • @tylerkate-ip2vw
    @tylerkate-ip2vw วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Regardless of hearing the bad reviews, I wanted to see the X-Men one last time, because Disney is gonna reduce them into clowns
    And despite its flaws, I had a good time watching it
    It was the little things that made this movie worth watching, like Hans Zimmer's score

  • @ministerofdarkness
    @ministerofdarkness วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    To quote Jon Lovitz The Critic, "It STINKS"!

  • @barney7822
    @barney7822 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Simon Kinberg might not be a good writer
    But you can bet that he's a great producer
    It was because of him that we got "First Class", "Deadpool" and "Logan"
    And not to mention "The Martian" too

  • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
    @The_Infamous_Boogyman 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didnt hate dark Phoenix all that much, it had some vicious kills on the train, cyclops saying 'ill fkn kill u' and beast all pissed off, not to mention, lawrence finally gone YES!, but it for sure missed the mark for source material and those friggin suits were SO BAD

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I heard that the D'Bari were supposed to be the Skrulls, but had to be changed because of Captain Marvel.

  • @RayMcElroy50
    @RayMcElroy50 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What I like the most about the X-Men movies is the fact that they never tried to follow the MCU's formula or its tropes, especially after it became a trend
    They never relied on nostalgia, the tone always kept consistent, and they always focused on the present
    And Dark Phoenix kept that way
    They kept their sense of individuality. Even the score was different in each movie

  • @valhallatv6889
    @valhallatv6889 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yeah, terrible, but I have to give it props for the train setpiece finale as one of the best action scenes in the franchise...the rest was garbage.

  • @Omar-wq9dz
    @Omar-wq9dz วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I remember reading somewhere Simon Kinberg wanted to split the movie in 2 parts, but I guess something happened which turned it into 1 movie

    • @pjacques007
      @pjacques007 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fox being bought up by Disney happened. They saw a DF ruff cut and changed the ending, since it mirrored their new Captain Marvel movie. They swept Dark Pheonix under the rug.

  • @kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94
    @kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Oh boy this X-Mess!
    Seriously I hate this movie 😂 The X-Women line still grinds my gears on how awful it is (and I’m actually a woman!)

  • @benjaminwhite3585
    @benjaminwhite3585 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    IMO, Dark Phoenix was better than Apocalypse. Not saying either movie was NEARLY as good as Days of Future Past, just saying my honest opinion.

  • @Kerwin-Kendell
    @Kerwin-Kendell ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why didn't they just give Matthew Vaughn the money to direct this movie, use the same writers as First Class, and the same DP? I'd have given Vaughn a fuckin island, a really good one just to make this movie.

  • @spicymemes7458
    @spicymemes7458 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *one of many endings
    Deadpool and Wolverine is the new last ending (for now)

  • @ciaranmurren
    @ciaranmurren วันที่ผ่านมา

    X-Men takes place in 1994. X-Men Origins Wolverine ends with the 3 mile island accident 1979 and Charles says Logan has been living with no memory for 15 years.

  • @virgil3241
    @virgil3241 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think if you just take it as a stand alone movie, its ok. Like nothing else exists, just this.

  • @LiamDalley-jd1kc
    @LiamDalley-jd1kc วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is my least favourite X Men movie. Say what you will about X Men Origins Wolverine, Apocalypse and or The New Mutants. At least they are interesting, Dark Phoenix is boring despite James Mcavoy, Michael Fassbender and Nicholas Holt trying their best

  • @analidiatomaz5462
    @analidiatomaz5462 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    This movie doesn't deserve to have this kind of video
    It ain't perfect, but is nowhere near to a level of mockery

    • @nicholasbennett7367
      @nicholasbennett7367 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah ok 😂 might as well call it X women 😅 this movie was trash

  • @loveandgamingxx1744
    @loveandgamingxx1744 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It wasn't good, but Magneto was OP

  • @noheartfourteeneightyeight
    @noheartfourteeneightyeight วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    all the xmen films are an insult to the fans, kelsey grammer as beast and jean luc as prof were the only roles even remotely well cast, wolverine is about 5 foot 3 in the comics and the theme of wolverine is "dwarf jokes", his signature move is allowing a member of his team with superstrenth to throw him at the enemy(dwarf tossing), he has no super strength, and they cast a lean and tall, over 6 foot hugh jackman to play him, might as well have just done a race and gender swap on him too, smh,

    • @Elora445
      @Elora445 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This is how I have always felt. I am also one of the few who really dislikes Wolverine's casting.

  • @okidokicreations1075
    @okidokicreations1075 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Still...they had a great soundtrack by legendary Hans Zimmer

  • @singleasasin
    @singleasasin วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The movie had a good subject, and, could've been a success, but, at one point, the subject changed ! ...

  • @dominicarroyo6269
    @dominicarroyo6269 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Personally I didn't hate it but the character ark for mystique is always baffling to me especially with this movie. Not just her attitude,but never made sense how she was ok with average humans seeing her blue form but wasn't ok with her fellow mutants seeing her that way when they got back from the space mission??? Plus beast going the way he did was a little nuts to, considering him and raven hardly had a thing and he's going hard like they actually had something when he ruined any of that in the first class.

  • @chriseggroll
    @chriseggroll 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    dark phoenix is one of the best x-men storylines so it was a real bummer how bad the movie was. it probably could have been two movies at least

    • @moeomoton520
      @moeomoton520 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I agree, no Shi ar, no Starjammers, and no Imperial Guard Battle in Blue Area of the Moon!

  • @YY-mi9rf
    @YY-mi9rf 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Was X-Men: The Last Stand Really That Bad? Yes, it was horrible because they killed both leaders (Charles and Scott) in a horrible way immediately. Having said that, Dark Phoenix was boring AF so it's really a tossup or preference as to which movie was worse. Oddly, both killed the franchise.

  • @ethanaleman
    @ethanaleman วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I liked it especially the night crawler revenge scene

  • @davidgillespie-official
    @davidgillespie-official วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's better than most of Marvel's movies and tv shows from the last few years

  • @bane666au
    @bane666au 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I love Magnet-toe but he can't wear steel cap boots, for obvious reasons.

  • @ryanmckenzie7149
    @ryanmckenzie7149 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    All I can say about this film is that it was too loud to sleep through.

  • @Axolotl_Mischief
    @Axolotl_Mischief วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I stopped after Days...my number one X-story to see on screen and it...was...*&!$#.

  • @davidjames579
    @davidjames579 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It was absolutely fine.

  • @robbybarr6850
    @robbybarr6850 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awfully Good Movies is one of my favorite TH-cam shows. Keep it going!

  • @henrymockingbird9645
    @henrymockingbird9645 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It’s obvious X-Men. The last stand is the better movie in as far better than dark Phoenix

    • @Zombiesnyder13
      @Zombiesnyder13 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Absolutely not
      #IBlameAviArad

  • @SimonAshworthWood
    @SimonAshworthWood วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I enjoyed all of the Xmen films. Calling Dark Phoenix “a disaster” is melodramatic. A disaster is something like the Israeli terrorist detonations of 1,000s of pagers in Lebanon, which even killed an 8 year old girl.

    • @noheartfourteeneightyeight
      @noheartfourteeneightyeight วันที่ผ่านมา

      work on your english,

    • @savage751
      @savage751 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You might be the only one who thought when he used the term "disaster" he meant it in the same way as a serious terrorist attack. It's called hyperbole

  • @goodwood-rc4nx
    @goodwood-rc4nx 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    love the hot shots 2 reaction meme as this as much of the film have seen as never watched the film

  • @MichaelMichael-us6wq
    @MichaelMichael-us6wq 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Awww… I was expecting a Awfully good Green lantern, or x men origins

  • @XHero220
    @XHero220 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Still better the MCU films and those Deadpool horrible films. I am not kidding and you know that is the truth.

  • @will88TFs4Life
    @will88TFs4Life 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    4 out of 10 is pretty high for this film

  • @_Luluko_
    @_Luluko_ 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Older ones are cleary better not even Fassbender and Quicksilver could save these new movies. Terrible writing and zero sex appeal too.

  • @marvelfoxmorty5057
    @marvelfoxmorty5057 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i already had no hope after Apocalypse (2016)... it's dull, lifeless & convoluted plot

  • @animesjogoseseriesclassica8282
    @animesjogoseseriesclassica8282 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think that they where trying to make Mystique the main character of this trilogy so i dont understand why the third movie decided to do her so mindbendly annoying. That is just one of the many troubles here, though. 😂😂😂

  • @alienboy1322
    @alienboy1322 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Long time, no see, Jessie.

  • @sfkeepay
    @sfkeepay 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Almost none of your attempts at humor come close to being funny. Also, since when is it acceptable to include people being shot in the head?

  • @Radiohead801
    @Radiohead801 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Two words. Bryan Singer

  • @antdude
    @antdude 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is it that bad I shouldn't watch it as a fan? :(

  • @John-wn4ow
    @John-wn4ow 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Fuck that movie seriously.

  • @12oshinko
    @12oshinko 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It was all trash after X2
    97 was the only good thing since

  • @jacobprayer8656
    @jacobprayer8656 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Also Sophie Turner is a terrible actress terrible miscast for Jean grey not a very attractive person in general

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think you're all f***ed in the head. If you think this is a disaster and The Eternals isn't, you need help. New Mutants is a legitimate BAD movie. But Dark Phoenix is ok

    • @MoonTurky
      @MoonTurky 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Its just a nerd show dude relax

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@MoonTurky What do you mean, nerd show?

  • @redxreview
    @redxreview วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Jesse Shade all your videos are top quality!

  • @ArifHussain-u8e
    @ArifHussain-u8e 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Neither X-Men nor X-women. Name should be "X-Human".

  • @ArchAngelRacing
    @ArchAngelRacing วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the movies is about family if you watced in the end what she said uhh everone hate this movie and dosent get the story

    • @Axolotl_Mischief
      @Axolotl_Mischief วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't get syntax and punctuation.
      Comment - NULL & VOID.
      🙏

  • @wickdaline8668
    @wickdaline8668 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    500th like 👍

  • @johnjamesleahy4065
    @johnjamesleahy4065 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    13:50 !!! 😇🤗😎😂