“The Bear does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”. “The Dragon does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”. Blinken is an Empty sheep, Yellen is an Old sheep , Ursula is a Sheep in Tatters.
Correct a mistake: the naval gun of 052 is not based on ak130. It is more like a Western naval gun, which is said to combine the advantages of Italian Otto series naval guns and Russian naval guns, optimize the loading performance, and is an upgraded version of them. It should also be noted that the 9-meter vertical launching system can hold four small and medium-sized missiles per hole, or large missiles like the hhq9/yj21. So don't underestimate the number of missiles it can carry.
Only channel I know of that regularly offers images and insights on Chinese weaponry . This channel should expand to a complimentary land warfare component
What an amazing, detailed video on one of my favorite destroyers! Bravo! BTW, I would love to see a video on what you would consider as improvements you would like to see in the next variant.
Has anyone noticed that an American Constellation-class frigate will cost as much as two Type 055s combined while having firepower inferior to the Type 054B? And an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer costs the same as 4 Type 052Ds while its firepower is far inferior to the Type 055 😂
The Constipation class is a pipe dream, they selected a legacy ship with "mature" design but then proceed to completely redesign it now they can't even build the ship, let along trying to build multiple a year to catch up with 054A/B frigates. Every single class of ship and subs the US is trying to build are delayed or design is not ready.
Constellation / Constipation class I doubt will roll in at 1 billion. they haven't even fully got through the design phase yet. SubBrief has a vid on it and he's basically spitting nails at the screen.
@@RichardsMiscCorner Very soon now, USA will welcome their new *_trillion dollar ship_*_ !!_ At this rate of hyper-inflated price tag, how can USA not file for bankruptcy ?
Thanks for the info mate. I'm gonna check out that vid. I'm sure the PLAN will get their next carrier after Fujian in service before the Constellation class at this point.
"1130" is not a "type", it's a nick name given by fans. Its official code name is H/PJ-11. 052D enquips very advanced radar system, even the latest Arleigh Burke Flight III can't catch up.
The main radar themselves are pretty much equivalent. The difference is the integrated electronic system employed by recent Chinese vessels, which boosted radar performance by a large margin.
This medium-sized destroyer is better than Arleigh Burke 3. The United States has only installed active phased array radar on the Arleigh Burke 3, but China has popularized active phased array radar several years ago, and even their close defense guns are equipped with active phased array radars. This technology is already very cheap for them, and the United States is still spending several times as much money to build Arleigh Burke class. If you want to say who is better between 055 and Arleigh Burke, I think it's like F22 and F16. The generation difference will make the other side powerless to fight back.
The performance of an advanced warship is not just a sum of its parts. How well all these parts are integrated with the crews is just as important. This integration normally takes time to mature and very hard for an outsider to quantify.
The big difference between western and Chinese/Russian warships is, Russian and Chinese shipyards build ships for purpose, whereas, in the west, shipyards build for profit. Tell USNI, the PLAN does not pose a "naval threat," it poses a naval capability. Only the western navies pose a threat. Another excellent video ENI, thank you.
Not exactly. The main reason is that China is the world's largest shipbuilding country. Their shipbuilding technology and equipment are top-notch. Western countries even import shipbuilding equipment from China.
@@baiyanxie2475 And their shipyards are dual use. Their shipbuilders build warships and civilian ships at the same time so they can make profits building civilian ships and then concentrate on building warships for the country without the need to push for unsustainable amount of profits.
Your stereotype made you make a mistake. In fact, the Chinese shipyards you see in this video are all dual-use, and the ships of container ships are not far from the dock of the warships, but they are not so corrupt and can make more accurate and reasonable offers
@@パン-r7h The dock is only responsible for assembly. All weapons and equipment are provided by the military, and in contrast, Western countries need to spend several times the price to purchase the shelf products of outdated arms companies.
China can build these faster than the US, and repair them faster too. If the US's statement of "War with China in 2025" comes to fruition, this will be an important factor. Of course, China can (and does) produce the weapons these boats carry "in considerable volume" which will also be a deciding factor, should circumstances require it.
@@Wvk5zc The PLA Navy are recruiting new crews *_straight from their high schools_*_ !!!_ Even before they finish their high schools, those kids received training, and no, it's not like the ROTC part-time training of the USA, it's *_REAL TRAINING_* all the way !
In a real war, the ability to defend strategic shipyards and factories is the deciding factor, not how much these shipyards and factories can produce or repair in peace time.
The Muslims are oppressing our Sinosphere compatriots so they must be thoroughly examined before being sold. And overall their Navy program is a ridiculous joke, I don't think they will get the Type 052D
China doesn't sell the 052D. There's the 052E, which is the export version, but that's never been sold before. The smaller 054 frigate and 056 corvette have been sold to foreign navies though.
The PLAN needs (significant numbers of unmanned long endurance AWACS) to integrate with 052C/052D in anti air and anti missile warfare in a TW scenario should 3rd parties intervene.
Why do Western countries and people talk about war between the Chinese Island of Taiwan and their Mother-land? Even the the Chinese people of the Chinese Island of Taiwan dont talk about war. We Chinese dont want war. You white people go fight in Ukraine if you want war.
Really, how long does it take China to build the various types of naval vessels? If it twice as fast as the next naval power, it looks like she can have a huge market if the twice is twice as competitive! Yes Auntie Yellen will complain of over-production and unfair competition!!
Be honest with me Which one is more fun seeing western bots barking in the comments Or seeing Indians in the comments think they have a chance against china
I think the most modern version of Type 1130 is now equipped with AESA radars. China's electonic industry and radar technology is so mature and advance that it is putting AESA on everything.
Exactly. People see that the Arleigh Burke class is also equipped with AESA radar, but they do not know that these same named AESA radar, the performance of the Chinese version is several times that of the United States, and the price is only a few tenths.
@@gelinrefira In fact, the cost is much less than one tenth. Most of the most advanced radar materials, gallium and germanium, are now produced in China, and these materials have been banned from being exported to the United States as a counterattack to the trade war. After that, it is difficult to find enough rare materials even if the cost has increased several times.
*I'm 100% positive many countries will want to purchase any export* version of this ship after the "performace" of Russian ships in the Black Sea. Nobody has confidence in Russian ships anymore
The 072C variants may well be upgradeable. This would offer a significant cost saving, and many of the systems used in the -D variant might be incorporated to a greater or lesser effect?
052D may sounds like a direct upgrade from 052C, but it employed a completely new hull design similar to it's western counterparts, compared to Russian derived 052C. It would actually cost more money and time to upgrade the remaining 052Cs to 052D capabilities than to build brand new ships. Not to mention there were only 6 052Cs ever built.
$80 +billions = 75% of the $ to all the friends of the congress, bedbuddies, middlemen, bogus research, manufacturer's top managements, and the supporting elites for Wash-sin-dung. Only 25 % actually goes into manufacturer production.
The long-range anti-ship missiles are an attempt to compensate for a less capable carrier air strike capability. For this to be effective, the PLAN will also need an equally long-range ISR capability, ideally ship launched.
The PLA has plenty of land based air strike capability, so it has less need for carrier base strike craft. But that's changing as we speak. The PLA in the future will have a full spectrum dominance across the whole of the first island chain and will have near full control up to the second island chain. The PLAAF will support with bombers carrying gigantic AShM, along with the J-16s carrying their own missiles. The PLARF have access to some of the most lethal LR AShM of supersonic, hypersonic and ballistic. So the PLAN is only one part of an entire system. And they are all support by the PLASSF and their vast intelligence networks. No ship or sub within the first island chain can operate within getting sunk within hours or even mins if they dare to do anything foolish and no ship is really safe outside the 1st island chain. People in the west really have no clue what China is, and that's mainly because they are more interested in tooting their own horns and bury their heads in the sand.
@@gelinrefira LR AShM supersonic, hypersonic or ballistic cannot hit a submarine which submerges below the sea surface. Submarines like Ohio class SSGN and Virginia class can carry Tomahawk Block VA anti ship cruise missiles with range 500 to 700km. They can stay well outside the 1st island chain, launch their Tomahawks while submerge below the surface and dive away afterwards.
@@DelAoc it's like you guys forget that the PLA has a huge anti-submarine capability. The moment an Ohio fires off its tomahawk is the moment it is dead, assuming it can make it past Chinese under sea surveillance in the first place.
@@gelinrefira The original definition of the first island chain composed of the Kuril Islands, the Japanese archipelago, Okinawa, Taiwan, the northern Philippines and Borneo. So if your claim is true, all Japanese waters will be under the full control of China. It is possible but Japan and its ally the US will surely have a say in that.
@@tvgerbil1984 LOL... The PLA pretty much CAN control the waters if it wants. But it doesn' have to because the PLA mission is to protect China, not interfere in other countries' internal affairs. However, because the US explicitly has said China is its and sought the destruction of its government and to plunge China back into poverty, it is using all its proxies,like Japan, SK and the philippiness to do so, it has no choice but to create the force necessary to take out all three of them when push comes to shove. They don't want to, and they will rather just trade and preserve their territorial integrity. It is the US that is trying to stir up trouble in the region and China is not going to back down from these bullying. Why should they back down? They have every legitimate right to resume their great power status in Asia and only fools will still try to deny them that. They have explicitly and with actions prove they are not interested in imperialism. The only countries that have problems with China are the ones controlled by the US. The rest of us have either live in peace, or benefited, or have negotiated settlements with China and moved on. That tell us everything we need to know who is really the bad guy here.
How good are Chinese anti air missiles and associated systems in comparison with their Russians counterparts like S300-400-500 etc, or compared with usas various RIM missiles incorporated into their Aegis system? Or any other countries or systems which would also be in contention for being the best and most advanced anti air missile defense.. against whatever(like French, Italian, Israeli, whatever). Could also be defensive systems and missiles against jets, ships; drones(big or small), land vehicles, or any missiles or rockets they can shoot. Doesn't just have to be ship launched and only meant to take our missiles.
Actually, no, countries like Serbia and Thailand have bought Chinese missiles before, the HQ-22, which is a cheaper replacement for the HQ-16FE, which itself is considered a cheaper replacement for the HQ-9BE derived from the missiles used on these ships
@@Jaysqualityparts It's more like the west is better at marketing than the Chinese. The west's weapons are overly expensive because they are made by deliberately inefficient for-profit companies, and when met with actual peer adversaries gets degraded very quickly. This is evident now as more and more buyers of western weapons are getting worried but they have little choice because they are locked in. Give it a few more years, and things are gonna change. It will change even more quickly when a DF-21 slam into the deck of a USN carrier when the US finally do something monumentally stupid to force China to have to defend itself.
@@Jaysqualityparts export models are not as good as domestic models that China uses. But even then, countries have bought systems which have Chinese anti air sub systems installed on them(like on Chinese ships). And iirc, Serbia has bought specific Chinese anti air systems. Not other systems like ships or tanks that have it as a subsystem but they bought it directly as anti air system.
all ASW should be delegated to guided missile corvettes & few guided missile frigate classes . . . the idea is to maintain multiple SW denial perimeters around & within a carrier strike group or naval task force . . . based on possible strike/attack probabilities by enemy sub surface combatants . . . guided missile destroyers & most guided missile frigates will take care of full spectrum surface-to-air, ship-to-surface & anti-ship warfare . . . anti-submarine warfare to some extent (if & when necessary) . . . the Type 052D class in 2024 should cost anywhere around €563 Mn - €682 Mn (approx) a piece . . .
Regards to IN's Visakhapatnam class price tag, you are easily ignoring basic stuff, I don't if it is because lack of knowledge or pure biasness. Firstly, Visakhapatnam class has only 3 ships in its class, which drives up the cost, plus its the price of the full package, including all the machinery, weapons package, sensor suites, life cycle costs etc.... which then is fairly priced warship. But about PLA its not the case. While I agree chinese will still be cheaper, but to not include how different navies around the world procure & small number of important details you left out is, outrageous.
The cow children's $80 +billions MIC budget = 75% of the $ to all the friends of the congress, bedbuddies, middlemen, bogus research, manufacturer's top managements, and the supporting elites. Only 25 % actually goes into manufacturer production.
@@mobiuszero2424 pls make it clear, ballistic missile is a different thing actually china didnt have cruise missile that on par with tomahawk and kalibr
@@jagodiving that ballistic missile can be launched from VLS, cruise missile or not their purpose is same and both launched from VLS. Besides, its harder to defend from ballistic missile compared to subsonic non sea skimming missiles, so whats your point?
@@mobiuszero2424 ok, my point is in all aspect cruise missile far more accurate than balistic missile and then pls tell me what type and tell the name china's ballistic missile that can launch from ship
@@jagodiving that ballistic missile also guided by radar, so i dont see the differences here, you also targetting warship not car or APC which is huge and quite slow, so there is no point having centimeter level accuracy Go look at YJ-21, and also China have kalibr/tomahawk equivalent of cruise missiles (YJ-18)
Please please do a video on why the Russian black sea fleet got f*cked up by $10K crappy drones. And how Chine will try to defend against aerial and naval drones.
Simple, moskva anti air capability is basically obsolete while moskva is actually designated anti air defense platform for the fleet While chinese navy fleet have tons of ships with anti air capability, also its CIWS job to decimate drones
@@Kriegsmarine1939US can't even copy their own 1960s-1970s moonlandings today. Let alone, even after 50 years, the American can't to anything to upgrade the so prized Apollo program patents and parts to another level. As if the entire story were paid Hollywood fabricated fairytales. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out as a big bogus crap.
It probably have but might be attacked by multiple neptunes at once while moskva is the only anti air defense ship in the fleet, whether any ship can be sunk by anti ship missiles is not yes or no but how many missiles needed
china has a lot of catching up to do but is growing fast. imo china has a right to increase its navy strength to parity with usa in the area but no right to use it to isolate Taiwan.
30mm apfsds firing at 10000 rpm, combined with advanced sensors, I don't see why that's not possible. Also, that's more of a theoretical figure, if missiles perform maneuvers then obviously it's more difficult. US has been facing the threats of mach 3 targets since the cold war era, and missiles based solely on mach speed alone isn't so difficult to deal with
@@davidz7858 The price of a ship has to be seen to the average national income unless you want to sell that type of ship to international buyers. At that point the absolute price matters because you compete with other nations. Btw, every military budget is limited.
@@thomas_jay Of course it matters. It still has an impact on the over support your national industry can output to build these ships. Every warship built is an opportunity cost for other productive ships, so the cost of a ship even in domestic terms absolutely has an impact. You are just harping on 1 point in order to dismiss the fact that China's shipbuilding and subsystem industries are far far more efficient than the west, and it is not even the low labor costs. They are simply more cost competitive because they are better optimize and efficient. Their industries are simply BETTER than the west and you are just trying to cope by insisting on one point (selling to international buyers).
@@gelinrefira Erm, 'no' on the ship building capacity. It is widely known that China has an enormous production output. That is not disputed. However, if you look at the purchasing power comparison 1 dollar can buy you more in China than in the USA. That automatically leads to higher prices in the USA. And that only matters if you try to sell an american ship or a chinese ship to the same buyer. That buyer will almost certainly choose the less expensive one (the chinese) over the more expensive (the american). If the ship isn't sold and stays in country, that doesn't matter anymore.
Neither has the divided states😂nor their vassals NATO...wait and see how they sail away pronto in a real fight. Oh they lose every war game in the south china sea for good reason dipshit.
@@seawater1322 the 1s talking about costs between this type 55 and Aeliegh Burk flt 111, plus the 1s about China's world leading skill over the US in AESA radar technology let alone the rest! 💯🤣🤣🤣!
“The Bear does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”.
“The Dragon does not concern itself with the opinion of the Sheep”.
Blinken is an Empty sheep, Yellen is an Old sheep , Ursula is a Sheep in Tatters.
You sound like the old Chinese Emperors 🤣🤣
nah @@camt8804
😂
And you sound like a little-D-boi from scam-center Mumbai-Dharavi
It goes "The Lions do not concern themselves with what the sheep think of them"
and its from Game of Thrones from Tywin Lanister.
China's strength is the pride of our Sinosphere, no matter what anyone says I will always support my Sinosphere brothers
Where is the Sinosphere?
@@camt8804China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Singapore
@@redblueyankee8343 Maybe just China and North Korea.
@@camt8804You don't really understand what Sinosphere mean
@@redblueyankee8343you don't know how speekie English, do you.
Correct a mistake: the naval gun of 052 is not based on ak130. It is more like a Western naval gun, which is said to combine the advantages of Italian Otto series naval guns and Russian naval guns, optimize the loading performance, and is an upgraded version of them. It should also be noted that the 9-meter vertical launching system can hold four small and medium-sized missiles per hole, or large missiles like the hhq9/yj21. So don't underestimate the number of missiles it can carry.
Only channel I know of that regularly offers images and insights on Chinese weaponry .
This channel should expand to a complimentary land warfare component
Thanks! I'll note your suggestion
@@EurasiaNavalyou definitely should, we want to know about the chinese land force as well, such limited info in English.
Half an hour video? You spoil me❤
What an amazing, detailed video on one of my favorite destroyers! Bravo! BTW, I would love to see a video on what you would consider as improvements you would like to see in the next variant.
Great suggestion!
Has anyone noticed that an American Constellation-class frigate will cost as much as two Type 055s combined while having firepower inferior to the Type 054B? And an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer costs the same as 4 Type 052Ds while its firepower is far inferior to the Type 055 😂
The Constipation class is a pipe dream, they selected a legacy ship with "mature" design but then proceed to completely redesign it now they can't even build the ship, let along trying to build multiple a year to catch up with 054A/B frigates. Every single class of ship and subs the US is trying to build are delayed or design is not ready.
Constellation / Constipation class I doubt will roll in at 1 billion. they haven't even fully got through the design phase yet. SubBrief has a vid on it and he's basically spitting nails at the screen.
@@RichardsMiscCorner Very soon now, USA will welcome their new *_trillion dollar ship_*_ !!_
At this rate of hyper-inflated price tag, how can USA not file for bankruptcy ?
Thanks for the info mate. I'm gonna check out that vid.
I'm sure the PLAN will get their next carrier after Fujian in service before the Constellation class at this point.
You need to add in the cost of all the kickbacks to the generals .... then they cost more 🤣🤣
Uff, that was a lot of content, i needed to watch this one with a break in the middle.
Thank you for another very detailed and informative video! Well done!
*CNN call it "the old ship in the Chinese Navy" (designed in 2014) while all the US ships are designed back in 1960s*
Lol😅😂😅😂
"1130" is not a "type", it's a nick name given by fans. Its official code name is H/PJ-11.
052D enquips very advanced radar system, even the latest Arleigh Burke Flight III can't catch up.
The main radar themselves are pretty much equivalent. The difference is the integrated electronic system employed by recent Chinese vessels, which boosted radar performance by a large margin.
This medium-sized destroyer is better than Arleigh Burke 3. The United States has only installed active phased array radar on the Arleigh Burke 3, but China has popularized active phased array radar several years ago, and even their close defense guns are equipped with active phased array radars. This technology is already very cheap for them, and the United States is still spending several times as much money to build Arleigh Burke class. If you want to say who is better between 055 and Arleigh Burke, I think it's like F22 and F16. The generation difference will make the other side powerless to fight back.
Ok buddy
It's hilarious that they just plop an AESA radar on everything when other countries struggle to even build a proper one.
@@gelinrefira Even the seeker of some missiles.
Lies!🤦♂️
The performance of an advanced warship is not just a sum of its parts. How well all these parts are integrated with the crews is just as important. This integration normally takes time to mature and very hard for an outsider to quantify.
No wonder the Office Boy Blinken was scared when he visited!
The big difference between western and Chinese/Russian warships is, Russian and Chinese shipyards build ships for purpose, whereas, in the west, shipyards build for profit.
Tell USNI, the PLAN does not pose a "naval threat," it poses a naval capability. Only the western navies pose a threat.
Another excellent video ENI, thank you.
We are the danger, yes.
Not exactly. The main reason is that China is the world's largest shipbuilding country. Their shipbuilding technology and equipment are top-notch. Western countries even import shipbuilding equipment from China.
@@baiyanxie2475 And their shipyards are dual use. Their shipbuilders build warships and civilian ships at the same time so they can make profits building civilian ships and then concentrate on building warships for the country without the need to push for unsustainable amount of profits.
Your stereotype made you make a mistake. In fact, the Chinese shipyards you see in this video are all dual-use, and the ships of container ships are not far from the dock of the warships, but they are not so corrupt and can make more accurate and reasonable offers
@@パン-r7h The dock is only responsible for assembly. All weapons and equipment are provided by the military, and in contrast, Western countries need to spend several times the price to purchase the shelf products of outdated arms companies.
China can build these faster than the US, and repair them faster too. If the US's statement of "War with China in 2025" comes to fruition, this will be an important factor. Of course, China can (and does) produce the weapons these boats carry "in considerable volume" which will also be a deciding factor, should circumstances require it.
They need to rigorously train a lot of ship crew. I think this is the biggest challenge now
The weapons output produced by the US is even lower than Russia, do you think they will surpass China?
@@Wvk5zc The PLA Navy are recruiting new crews *_straight from their high schools_*_ !!!_
Even before they finish their high schools, those kids received training, and no, it's not like the ROTC part-time training of the USA, it's *_REAL TRAINING_* all the way !
In a real war, the ability to defend strategic shipyards and factories is the deciding factor, not how much these shipyards and factories can produce or repair in peace time.
Wait a min, war in 2025? That’s like next year! When did US declare this
Looks like Indonesia may want to purchase 052D in the near future
The Muslims are oppressing our Sinosphere compatriots so they must be thoroughly examined before being sold. And overall their Navy program is a ridiculous joke, I don't think they will get the Type 052D
China doesn't sell the 052D. There's the 052E, which is the export version, but that's never been sold before.
The smaller 054 frigate and 056 corvette have been sold to foreign navies though.
The new Indonesian frigate is being built with the UK.
@@camt8804 选择跟英国合作是个错误决定😅
@@kunzhang7512 Are the UK trying to steal Indonesian territory too?
The PLAN needs (significant numbers of unmanned long endurance AWACS) to integrate with 052C/052D in anti air and anti missile warfare in a TW scenario should 3rd parties intervene.
Maybe the chief of PLAN should get free advice from all of you!
@@PahatRout😂😂😂
Why do Western countries and people talk about war between the Chinese Island of Taiwan and their Mother-land?
Even the the Chinese people of the Chinese Island of Taiwan dont talk about war.
We Chinese dont want war.
You white people go fight in Ukraine if you want war.
Really, how long does it take China to build the various types of naval vessels? If it twice as fast as the next naval power, it looks like she can have a huge market if the twice is twice as competitive! Yes Auntie Yellen will complain of over-production and unfair competition!!
Karen-Yellen ate too much🍄
Nobody wants chinesium built ships. Tofu is the name of the game.
@@Jaysqualityparts SB
@@Jaysqualityparts SB
@@Jaysqualityparts , Of course don't want them because you CAN"T afford them! It took India a decade to build a tiny destroyer.
Great analysis!
Be honest with me
Which one is more fun seeing western bots barking in the comments
Or seeing Indians in the comments think they have a chance against china
indians are annoying, swarming every comment section like ants. western butt hurt bots are so cringe.
They are chasing the crumbling crumbs of the tiny bits of the 1.6 billion crumbs of gee eyed joes ' sour cream pie.
中国海军的雷达非常优异，领先阿利伯克3，反舰导弹领先世界所有海军，有这两样已经足够。
👉🤡
Not a chance in hell Chinese technology is 30yrs behind American tech.
@@Jaysqualityparts 你的认知太旧了，需要立即更新。
@@Jaysqualityparts Let the United States try to dig on the far side of the moon
@@seabedsand if you believe that head to mars where we have a car seriously. We landed on the moon 50yrs ago with people.
I think the most modern version of Type 1130 is now equipped with AESA radars. China's electonic industry and radar technology is so mature and advance that it is putting AESA on everything.
Exactly. People see that the Arleigh Burke class is also equipped with AESA radar, but they do not know that these same named AESA radar, the performance of the Chinese version is several times that of the United States, and the price is only a few tenths.
@@baiyanxie2475 Maybe not 1/10 of the cost or several times the performance, but definitely fat cheaper and even better performance.
@@gelinrefira In fact, the cost is much less than one tenth. Most of the most advanced radar materials, gallium and germanium, are now produced in China, and these materials have been banned from being exported to the United States as a counterattack to the trade war. After that, it is difficult to find enough rare materials even if the cost has increased several times.
*I'm 100% positive many countries will want to purchase any export*
version of this ship after the "performace" of Russian ships
in the Black Sea. Nobody has confidence in Russian ships anymore
The 072C variants may well be upgradeable. This would offer a significant cost saving, and many of the systems used in the -D variant might be incorporated to a greater or lesser effect?
052D may sounds like a direct upgrade from 052C, but it employed a completely new hull design similar to it's western counterparts, compared to Russian derived 052C. It would actually cost more money and time to upgrade the remaining 052Cs to 052D capabilities than to build brand new ships. Not to mention there were only 6 052Cs ever built.
It must have at least 96 vls for upcoming model like alreburg class of America
It needs an additional anti drone platform for protection
The 130mm HPJ45 on 052D has a muzzle brake, the ones on 055 does not.
Great video. One question, why is there always water pumped out above the waterline on Chinese ships?
coolant water
I wonder how is the defense system around china's shipyards since it is apparent that they are if not the most crucial assets china have
Probably very good, the Chinese air defence network is world class
如果中国本土被攻击，那可能就是第三次世界大战了
In cost of 2 Alrighburk III the china can build another fujian type Aircraft carrier
$80 +billions = 75% of the $ to all the friends of the congress, bedbuddies, middlemen, bogus research, manufacturer's top managements, and the supporting elites for Wash-sin-dung.
Only 25 % actually goes into manufacturer production.
The long-range anti-ship missiles are an attempt to compensate for a less capable carrier air strike capability. For this to be effective, the PLAN will also need an equally long-range ISR capability, ideally ship launched.
The PLA has plenty of land based air strike capability, so it has less need for carrier base strike craft. But that's changing as we speak. The PLA in the future will have a full spectrum dominance across the whole of the first island chain and will have near full control up to the second island chain. The PLAAF will support with bombers carrying gigantic AShM, along with the J-16s carrying their own missiles. The PLARF have access to some of the most lethal LR AShM of supersonic, hypersonic and ballistic. So the PLAN is only one part of an entire system. And they are all support by the PLASSF and their vast intelligence networks. No ship or sub within the first island chain can operate within getting sunk within hours or even mins if they dare to do anything foolish and no ship is really safe outside the 1st island chain.
People in the west really have no clue what China is, and that's mainly because they are more interested in tooting their own horns and bury their heads in the sand.
@@gelinrefira LR AShM supersonic, hypersonic or ballistic cannot hit a submarine which submerges below the sea surface. Submarines like Ohio class SSGN and Virginia class can carry Tomahawk Block VA anti ship cruise missiles with range 500 to 700km. They can stay well outside the 1st island chain, launch their Tomahawks while submerge below the surface and dive away afterwards.
@@DelAoc it's like you guys forget that the PLA has a huge anti-submarine capability. The moment an Ohio fires off its tomahawk is the moment it is dead, assuming it can make it past Chinese under sea surveillance in the first place.
@@gelinrefira The original definition of the first island chain composed of the Kuril Islands, the Japanese archipelago, Okinawa, Taiwan, the northern Philippines and Borneo. So if your claim is true, all Japanese waters will be under the full control of China. It is possible but Japan and its ally the US will surely have a say in that.
@@tvgerbil1984 LOL... The PLA pretty much CAN control the waters if it wants. But it doesn' have to because the PLA mission is to protect China, not interfere in other countries' internal affairs.
However, because the US explicitly has said China is its and sought the destruction of its government and to plunge China back into poverty, it is using all its proxies,like Japan, SK and the philippiness to do so, it has no choice but to create the force necessary to take out all three of them when push comes to shove. They don't want to, and they will rather just trade and preserve their territorial integrity. It is the US that is trying to stir up trouble in the region and China is not going to back down from these bullying.
Why should they back down? They have every legitimate right to resume their great power status in Asia and only fools will still try to deny them that. They have explicitly and with actions prove they are not interested in imperialism. The only countries that have problems with China are the ones controlled by the US. The rest of us have either live in peace, or benefited, or have negotiated settlements with China and moved on. That tell us everything we need to know who is really the bad guy here.
Can you talk about the naval construction in russia ?
那建议您去看历史书
@@gebiwang-k2i i dont speak chinese -_-
How good are Chinese anti air missiles and associated systems in comparison with their Russians counterparts like S300-400-500 etc, or compared with usas various RIM missiles incorporated into their Aegis system?
Or any other countries or systems which would also be in contention for being the best and most advanced anti air missile defense.. against whatever(like French, Italian, Israeli, whatever).
Could also be defensive systems and missiles against jets, ships; drones(big or small), land vehicles, or any missiles or rockets they can shoot. Doesn't just have to be ship launched and only meant to take our missiles.
Try it
Not good that’s why nobody buys it.
Actually, no, countries like Serbia and Thailand have bought Chinese missiles before, the HQ-22, which is a cheaper replacement for the HQ-16FE, which itself is considered a cheaper replacement for the HQ-9BE derived from the missiles used on these ships
@@Jaysqualityparts It's more like the west is better at marketing than the Chinese. The west's weapons are overly expensive because they are made by deliberately inefficient for-profit companies, and when met with actual peer adversaries gets degraded very quickly. This is evident now as more and more buyers of western weapons are getting worried but they have little choice because they are locked in.
Give it a few more years, and things are gonna change. It will change even more quickly when a DF-21 slam into the deck of a USN carrier when the US finally do something monumentally stupid to force China to have to defend itself.
@@Jaysqualityparts export models are not as good as domestic models that China uses. But even then, countries have bought systems which have Chinese anti air sub systems installed on them(like on Chinese ships).
And iirc, Serbia has bought specific Chinese anti air systems. Not other systems like ships or tanks that have it as a subsystem but they bought it directly as anti air system.
where are you from?
all ASW should be delegated to guided missile corvettes & few guided missile frigate classes . . . the idea is to maintain multiple SW denial perimeters around & within a carrier strike group or naval task force . . . based on possible strike/attack probabilities by enemy sub surface combatants . . . guided missile destroyers & most guided missile frigates will take care of full spectrum surface-to-air, ship-to-surface & anti-ship warfare . . . anti-submarine warfare to some extent (if & when necessary) . . . the Type 052D class in 2024 should cost anywhere around €563 Mn - €682 Mn (approx) a piece . . .
Regards to IN's Visakhapatnam class price tag, you are easily ignoring basic stuff, I don't if it is because lack of knowledge or pure biasness. Firstly, Visakhapatnam class has only 3 ships in its class, which drives up the cost, plus its the price of the full package, including all the machinery, weapons package, sensor suites, life cycle costs etc.... which then is fairly priced warship. But about PLA its not the case. While I agree chinese will still be cheaper, but to not include how different navies around the world procure & small number of important details you left out is, outrageous.
Smaller ships are the way to go, big ships are too easy to hit and takes away massive power when hit
small ships have range issue and cant accommodate big equipment
原来要30亿一条这么贵。。。运行维护又不知道要多少钱，海军真是烧钱大户
那也看钱烧在哪了，烧在自己的造船厂那是内循环，烧在别人家那就是大撒币了，这也是为什么美国热衷于战争，他们不怕烧钱，因为越烧越多
055要11亿美元，就一个破022都1亿rmb
The cow children's $80 +billions MIC budget = 75% of the $ to all the friends of the congress, bedbuddies, middlemen, bogus research, manufacturer's top managements, and the supporting elites.
Only 25 % actually goes into manufacturer production.
didn't you forget arleigh burke class has anti land capability with tomahawk missile with range more than 1500 km
Subsonic and not sea skimming missiles, while chinese type 55 have ballistic anti ship missiles
@@mobiuszero2424 pls make it clear, ballistic missile is a different thing
actually china didnt have cruise missile that on par with tomahawk and kalibr
@@jagodiving that ballistic missile can be launched from VLS, cruise missile or not their purpose is same and both launched from VLS. Besides, its harder to defend from ballistic missile compared to subsonic non sea skimming missiles, so whats your point?
@@mobiuszero2424 ok, my point is in all aspect cruise missile far more accurate than balistic missile and then pls tell me what type and tell the name china's ballistic missile that can launch from ship
@@jagodiving that ballistic missile also guided by radar, so i dont see the differences here, you also targetting warship not car or APC which is huge and quite slow, so there is no point having centimeter level accuracy
Go look at YJ-21, and also China have kalibr/tomahawk equivalent of cruise missiles (YJ-18)
Please please do a video on why the Russian black sea fleet got f*cked up by $10K crappy drones. And how Chine will try to defend against aerial and naval drones.
Simple, moskva anti air capability is basically obsolete while moskva is actually designated anti air defense platform for the fleet
While chinese navy fleet have tons of ships with anti air capability, also its CIWS job to decimate drones
Notice: there will be a quiz at the end of video😂
笑死了，up主老哥终于不演了。
“之前还给你们留点面子，你们不要自我感觉过于良好。”
别这样，就应该大力支持"Chinese J20 is not good as u think"这种视频在油管越来越多，大力支持推广类似china observer的频道，树立好pla纸老虎不堪一击的正确形象👍
@@Kriegsmarine1939那就是一个印度傻逼频道而已，也就骗骗三哥那些智商，有点独立思考能力的人都不会信😂
@@Kriegsmarine1939一定要让这些人被自己的宣传摔死一次，而且一次就要死透
过去的30个世纪以来还没有像如今一样，几亿人的认知竟然基于谎言，现在解构的伯克IIA和伯克III居然和十年前宣传之中的伯克完全不同，远远不如，而长期被低估的海红旗9居然一开始就有160千米以上的射程
@@Kriegsmarine1939US can't even copy their own 1960s-1970s moonlandings today.
Let alone, even after 50 years, the American can't to anything to upgrade the so prized Apollo program patents and parts to another level.
As if the entire story were paid Hollywood fabricated fairytales.
It doesn't take a genius to figure it out as a big bogus crap.
The mockva should had that system they could've detected those Neptune missiles
It probably have but might be attacked by multiple neptunes at once while moskva is the only anti air defense ship in the fleet, whether any ship can be sunk by anti ship missiles is not yes or no but how many missiles needed
china has a lot of catching up to do but is growing fast. imo china has a right to increase its navy strength to parity with usa in the area but no right to use it to isolate Taiwan.
sorry, Taiwan is part of China. No power, no barking.
Compro 50.000 navios dessa classe para a marinha do Brasil Rio de Janeiro Brasil
96% success rate against Mach 4 targets? Good luck with that
30mm apfsds firing at 10000 rpm, combined with advanced sensors, I don't see why that's not possible. Also, that's more of a theoretical figure, if missiles perform maneuvers then obviously it's more difficult. US has been facing the threats of mach 3 targets since the cold war era, and missiles based solely on mach speed alone isn't so difficult to deal with
Err... O52D is just a low visibility vessel, not a stealth one tho...
No real ships are going to be invisible.
But the USAF now has Quicksink antiship 2000lb air drop bombs. A B2 can drop them from a range of 24km, yes 24 km away!😂😂 😂
这样的战舰数量还不够；还需要努力。再造100艘编队航行，才是目标。
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Let me see which one, those who are upset go to India
The price comparision for the ships is irrelevant.
It only matter if you plan sell the ships to international buyers.
Definitely it matters, it will determine how many new ships you can build with limited military budget
@@davidz7858 The price of a ship has to be seen to the average national income unless you want to sell that type of ship to international buyers. At that point the absolute price matters because you compete with other nations. Btw, every military budget is limited.
@@thomas_jay Of course it matters. It still has an impact on the over support your national industry can output to build these ships. Every warship built is an opportunity cost for other productive ships, so the cost of a ship even in domestic terms absolutely has an impact. You are just harping on 1 point in order to dismiss the fact that China's shipbuilding and subsystem industries are far far more efficient than the west, and it is not even the low labor costs. They are simply more cost competitive because they are better optimize and efficient. Their industries are simply BETTER than the west and you are just trying to cope by insisting on one point (selling to international buyers).
@@gelinrefira Erm, 'no' on the ship building capacity. It is widely known that China has an enormous production output. That is not disputed. However, if you look at the purchasing power comparison 1 dollar can buy you more in China than in the USA. That automatically leads to higher prices in the USA. And that only matters if you try to sell an american ship or a chinese ship to the same buyer. That buyer will almost certainly choose the less expensive one (the chinese) over the more expensive (the american).
If the ship isn't sold and stays in country, that doesn't matter anymore.
It's how many pieces of chess pieces on your side of the chess board for your strategic movement.
Does that answer your question?
😂😂😂😂😂
Fancy surface targets!
052D 055 MORE advanced tha ARleigh burke
Paper tiger
you wish pigskin
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First
Never seen those war ships in a real war yet!!!😂😂😂
What's so funny?
So which Western countries warship fought any real war?
In Afghanistan?
Neither has the divided states😂nor their vassals NATO...wait and see how they sail away pronto in a real fight.
Oh they lose every war game in the south china sea for good reason dipshit.
Jit yapping like western ships have seen a real war 😂😂😂
@@taiwanstillisntacountry They are fighting the mighty Houthi in the Red Sea right now and not winning.🤣
The amount of Chinese disinformation bots in the comments is amazing!😂
what disinformation western bot?
@@seawater1322 the 1s talking about costs between this type 55 and Aeliegh Burk flt 111, plus the 1s about China's world leading skill over the US in AESA radar technology let alone the rest! 💯🤣🤣🤣!
Did you get your share of little joe blows ' 1.6 billions of sour cream pie crumbs ?
不打战，就是一坨废铁。
在说你美·爹马
不需要打，但必须得有，必须能打
没这些“废铁”可能就是天天打仗了🤡你美爹那么多废铁这么不见你骂😂
没有海军就该有人来打你了
现代化战舰这个世纪看中国