You're obviously dedicated to sharing your craft if you went through the trouble of providing revisions. Most TH-camrs wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but not you. Thanks again for all you share!
I am fascinated that he treated a potential loss of accuracy as if it was some sort of catastrophic failure. That is some serious dedication to a craft.
It's a treat to observe and learn from a master - Thank you for all of your mini 14 videos. I have a greater appreciation for my mini 14 and have been employing your instruction to accurize and properly clean the gun. Much appreciated!
Always was wondering about glass bedding my Mini. 583 series, wood stock. Just checked and there is a small amount of movement. Probably half the wiggle you're getting with the synthetic stock. Great info, on the list of things to do. Thanks!
Bedding my extra loose sks stock. Its a extra stock i dont care much about so bedding it can be fun. I made sure the ferrule in the front is not contacting any wood . Removed wood in the rear sides of the stock , the side ears were the magazine and the sides of the barrel lug. 3 spots to remove wood and add alot of jbweld. I use Vaseline for release agent. When i bedded my first sks it was super tight to pull apart and put back together so i rarely pulled it apart. It shot very good for a sks. I cant wait for this to happen. Tomorrow ill start when i can purchase jb weld since its a long weekend August 1. Very fun doing this kind of work. I love all rifles and the work they come with.
Did that trigger job on my mini tac. Smooth as butter and down to 5lb 8oz from 6lb 2oz and that's only from removing a half link from the secondary sear spring! I think I'll stop there it's nice and crisp now 👍🏻
The tip of my 186 series 14’s stock (where the stainless steel piece wrapped around) is actually bending the barrel downwards, when all parts assembled properly.
Thank you for the update. I was thinking that leaving any freedom of the gas block would lead to all kind of harmonics going on. This is one area where the gas action hardware on the Mini, or any other semi, isn't really friendly to barrel float. I think it's even a nemesis of the AR. My apologies for stating this before re-watching the video. I might be better off to close my mouth and listen...
Nice video, very informative. I've got a factory birch ranch model with absolutely no movement of the receiver in the stock. It seems the wooden ones have less movement, could the lack of stock reinforcement in the synthetic stocks contribute to the sloppiness in them?
If you could do a video on glass bedding and also rebedding after wearing out an M14, that’d also be cool. I kinda want to buy an M14 as my full powered battle rifle (seeing as it’s essentially a modernized M1 Garand) but glass bedding always seemed daunting to me. I am also thinking of just getting a fancy chassis, so it’ll depend on which I deem a better idea.
@@gameragodzilla it's still a solid metal chassis honestly if you really want to run one just go with polymer version of the traditional stock it's not fancy or tactical it's the best combination of low weight and function. They're excellent rifles but it's still functionally the rifle we took into WW2, requires relatively complex maintenance and requires increasingly rare armorer's, if you want it done right, if it needs any significant repairs.
I'm considering doing a bedding of my Standard Walnut M1A, but I understand that one cannot set expectations too high for a standard weight military barrel. They share the same general limitations of the Mini-14, owing to steel parts being mounted on the middle of a barrel of varying diameters. Every section of the barrel has a different tune, all fighting to make a mess of harmonics. Imagine a tuning fork in such a shape!
@@GunBlue490 Yeah makes sense. I wonder if National Match barrels make sure to iron those dimensions out. I know accurizing Garand style actions in general are a bit of a pain, but I am fascinated by the concept. I always loved the Garand from all the classic WW2 movies and games I’ve enjoyed as a kid, so a modernized version of that gun that’s still viable in modern times would be cool, like how I like double stack 1911s or my AR-15 being a 20” M16 style gun.
Not because of quality, but by taper and weight. The accuracy of the design is greatly limited by the problems created when a gas block is strapped in the middle of a barrel of different diameters that has different conflicting harmonics along its length. Barrels must vibrate freely with a single resonance in order to shoot their best. Standard M1 Garand and M14 rifles have similar issues unless they are fitted with heavy barrels that quell the vibration. A Mini-14 can't simply be fitted with a heavy barrel. As with M1 Garands and M1A rifles, diameter can be increased out front, but diameter is limited under the forend by its operating system, which is the most critical mass area of a barrel. The attractive sales qualities that have kept it going for nearly 50 years are in its handling and looks, and its excellent, realistic field accuracy.
Glass bedding my Mini 14 after action report. It’s been 22 hours and it’s time to separate the receiver from the stock. It took light force. But it turned out magnificently. I was surprised how much space there was between the receiver and the recoil lug in the stock. There seemed to also be a good bit of room along the side, horizontal ledges of the receiver in stock you can see it in the pictures. There are no air pockets or cavities. The receiver fits in the stock tight as a Dick’s Hat Band! That action is NOT going to move inside that stock! Check out the pictures! I’ll go to sleep tonight dreaming of sub MOA groups out to 500 yards.
I enjoy shooting all guns. If I had to name one, I would pick my superbly accurate, fast handling, and beautiful Boy Scout commemorative Winchester Model 9422. I've never shot or owned another rifle that was so desirable to handle and pleasurable to shoot. I've put hundreds of rounds through it on many occasions and never tire of it.
@@GunBlue490 not a problem at all thanks for the reply. Try to look for somebody as meticulous As You Are. Keep up the great work love the content and glad you're feeling a lot better
Very good question. The answer is simple. Clay is the appropriate medium for holes and thin slots where it is supported. It does not stay in place in an open sided cavity, and when it collapses unseen, the action will be permanently locked.
@GunBlue490 Thank you for answering my question. Your videos are certainly more informative and useful than tacticool larpers. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and wisdom, as those are truly invaluable treasures.
Please dont push that narrative that Semi's are not as accurate as bolt action rifles. In modern days (post 1995) semi's are just as accurate, in some cases more accurate than a bolt.
But they are you get more velocity and more consistent groups now its splitting hairs but with good loads and care you can hardly see the difference my ar10 would shoot almost 1/4 moa with 165 barnes bullets but the main problem with accuracy in auto loaders is the lack of free floating barrels in some older models
Trying to transform a semi-auto rifle into something else is futile. Besides, the Mini 14 is best used as a "100 yard" gun and can never be a 'tack driver'.
Just ruined the stock and accomplished nothing. These rifles are meant to be reliable field weapons, nothing more. You want to get small groups buy a target rifle.
I agree, not necessary for a battle weapon. I had to qualify quarterly while working as a correctional officer for the Commiefornia Department of Corruption and Retaliation.
well, my bedding job turned out amazing and I was surprised just how much space there was that the bedding compound filled especially around the recoil lugs and sides of the stock. This may be considered a battle weapon, but between betting the action and doing the NM trigger job, I should have a sub MOA rifle! I used to shoot the black rifle in NRA competition. I held a master classification. While sub MOA rifle is not necessary to expect with a mass produced rifle, It sure is going to be sweet.
You're obviously dedicated to sharing your craft if you went through the trouble of providing revisions. Most TH-camrs wouldn't lose any sleep over it, but not you. Thanks again for all you share!
I am fascinated that he treated a potential loss of accuracy as if it was some sort of catastrophic failure. That is some serious dedication to a craft.
It's a treat to observe and learn from a master - Thank you for all of your mini 14 videos. I have a greater appreciation for my mini 14 and have been employing your instruction to accurize and properly clean the gun. Much appreciated!
You’re a hard working guy, Blue. We love ya! Thanks for this series.
I wish I could work directly with a gunsmith like you. You are old school and have that knowledge and are a man of God as well
Always was wondering about glass bedding my Mini. 583 series, wood stock. Just checked and there is a small amount of movement. Probably half the wiggle you're getting with the synthetic stock. Great info, on the list of things to do. Thanks!
Seems like this should have been done at Ruger Factory. Excellent video sir!
Bedding my extra loose sks stock. Its a extra stock i dont care much about so bedding it can be fun. I made sure the ferrule in the front is not contacting any wood . Removed wood in the rear sides of the stock , the side ears were the magazine and the sides of the barrel lug. 3 spots to remove wood and add alot of jbweld. I use Vaseline for release agent. When i bedded my first sks it was super tight to pull apart and put back together so i rarely pulled it apart. It shot very good for a sks. I cant wait for this to happen. Tomorrow ill start when i can purchase jb weld since its a long weekend August 1. Very fun doing this kind of work. I love all rifles and the work they come with.
Did that trigger job on my mini tac.
Smooth as butter and down to 5lb 8oz from 6lb 2oz and that's only from removing a half link from the secondary sear spring! I think I'll stop there it's nice and crisp now 👍🏻
Thank you for sharing your expertise.
The tip of my 186 series 14’s stock (where the stainless steel piece wrapped around) is actually bending the barrel downwards, when all parts assembled properly.
Thank you for the update. I was thinking that leaving any freedom of the gas block would lead to all kind of harmonics going on. This is one area where the gas action hardware on the Mini, or any other semi, isn't really friendly to barrel float. I think it's even a nemesis of the AR.
My apologies for stating this before re-watching the video. I might be better off to close my mouth and listen...
I think the same thing!
Would this guide also work for the M1 Garand?
Nice video, very informative. I've got a factory birch ranch model with absolutely no movement of the receiver in the stock. It seems the wooden ones have less movement, could the lack of stock reinforcement in the synthetic stocks contribute to the sloppiness in them?
Be sure to watch my video" Wood v. Synthetic Stock..." just two months ago.
If you could do a video on glass bedding and also rebedding after wearing out an M14, that’d also be cool. I kinda want to buy an M14 as my full powered battle rifle (seeing as it’s essentially a modernized M1 Garand) but glass bedding always seemed daunting to me. I am also thinking of just getting a fancy chassis, so it’ll depend on which I deem a better idea.
Ah yes a chassis when an already big, heavy rifle isn't big and heavy enough
@@Scrap_Goblin The Blackfeather RS chassis seems to be not too heavy, which is the chassis system I’m most looking at right now.
@@gameragodzilla it's still a solid metal chassis honestly if you really want to run one just go with polymer version of the traditional stock it's not fancy or tactical it's the best combination of low weight and function. They're excellent rifles but it's still functionally the rifle we took into WW2, requires relatively complex maintenance and requires increasingly rare armorer's, if you want it done right, if it needs any significant repairs.
I'm considering doing a bedding of my Standard Walnut M1A, but I understand that one cannot set expectations too high for a standard weight military barrel. They share the same general limitations of the Mini-14, owing to steel parts being mounted on the middle of a barrel of varying diameters. Every section of the barrel has a different tune, all fighting to make a mess of harmonics. Imagine a tuning fork in such a shape!
@@GunBlue490 Yeah makes sense. I wonder if National Match barrels make sure to iron those dimensions out. I know accurizing Garand style actions in general are a bit of a pain, but I am fascinated by the concept. I always loved the Garand from all the classic WW2 movies and games I’ve enjoyed as a kid, so a modernized version of that gun that’s still viable in modern times would be cool, like how I like double stack 1911s or my AR-15 being a 20” M16 style gun.
If you send "em, you have to count "em. Unless you "woke" up, then you can make up whatever makes you feel better.
Would it make the bedded rifle a better build if the stock barrel was replaced.?
Not because of quality, but by taper and weight. The accuracy of the design is greatly limited by the problems created when a gas block is strapped in the middle of a barrel of different diameters that has different conflicting harmonics along its length. Barrels must vibrate freely with a single resonance in order to shoot their best. Standard M1 Garand and M14 rifles have similar issues unless they are fitted with heavy barrels that quell the vibration. A Mini-14 can't simply be fitted with a heavy barrel. As with M1 Garands and M1A rifles, diameter can be increased out front, but diameter is limited under the forend by its operating system, which is the most critical mass area of a barrel. The attractive sales qualities that have kept it going for nearly 50 years are in its handling and looks, and its excellent, realistic field accuracy.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you for the information..It is most appreciated..
Glass bedding my Mini 14 after action report.
It’s been 22 hours and it’s time to separate the receiver from the stock. It took light force. But it turned out magnificently. I was surprised how much space there was between the receiver and the recoil lug in the stock. There seemed to also be a good bit of room along the side, horizontal ledges of the receiver in stock you can see it in the pictures. There are no air pockets or cavities. The receiver fits in the stock tight as a Dick’s Hat Band!
That action is NOT going to move inside that stock! Check out the pictures! I’ll go to sleep tonight dreaming of sub MOA groups out to 500 yards.
What is your favorite rifle to shoot?
I enjoy shooting all guns. If I had to name one, I would pick my superbly accurate, fast handling, and beautiful Boy Scout commemorative Winchester Model 9422. I've never shot or owned another rifle that was so desirable to handle and pleasurable to shoot. I've put hundreds of rounds through it on many occasions and never tire of it.
@@GunBlue490 NICE! I bet you have a jaw dropping gun collection! Thanks for the response and stay safe! Glad your dog was in good health!
This guy is great
Very similar to doing a body fit to an Indycar.
I live in upstate NY. Any chance I can send you my Mini-30 for bedding job?? I'll be more than happy to pay you!!!
do you take glassbedding jobs? I live in NE, have a wood stock 580 mini14
Thanks, but I simply have my plate filled right now. Thanks for your support. God bless.
@@GunBlue490 not a problem at all thanks for the reply. Try to look for somebody as meticulous As You Are.
Keep up the great work love the content and glad you're feeling a lot better
Why use a pencil and epoxy instead of clay?
Very good question. The answer is simple. Clay is the appropriate medium for holes and thin slots where it is supported. It does not stay in place in an open sided cavity, and when it collapses unseen, the action will be permanently locked.
@GunBlue490
Thank you for answering my question. Your videos are certainly more informative and useful than tacticool larpers. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge and wisdom, as those are truly invaluable treasures.
Why would you? It was never meant to be a tack driver.
Looks like a sks
You must be referring to the trigger.
Please dont push that narrative that Semi's are not as accurate as bolt action rifles. In modern days (post 1995) semi's are just as accurate, in some cases more accurate than a bolt.
But they are you get more velocity and more consistent groups now its splitting hairs but with good loads and care you can hardly see the difference my ar10 would shoot almost 1/4 moa with 165 barnes bullets but the main problem with accuracy in auto loaders is the lack of free floating barrels in some older models
Bolts will always be more accurate because it has less moving parts.
Trying to transform a semi-auto rifle into something else is futile. Besides, the Mini 14 is best used as a "100 yard" gun and can never be a 'tack driver'.
Maybe you should know what you're talking about before bloviating. th-cam.com/video/dvyW-dhkK2o/w-d-xo.html
First!
Just ruined the stock and accomplished nothing. These rifles are meant to be reliable field weapons, nothing more. You want to get small groups buy a target rifle.
I agree, not necessary for a battle weapon. I had to qualify quarterly while working as a correctional officer for the Commiefornia Department of Corruption and Retaliation.
True, and idk why people keep trying to make a mini14 a competition rifle. I could get a good group at 100 yards with the mini 14.
well, my bedding job turned out amazing and I was surprised just how much space there was that the bedding compound filled especially around the recoil lugs and sides of the stock. This may be considered a battle weapon, but between betting the action and doing the NM trigger job, I should have a sub MOA rifle! I used to shoot the black rifle in NRA competition. I held a master classification. While sub MOA rifle is not necessary to expect with a mass produced rifle, It sure is going to be sweet.