Joe Rogan & Thaddeus Russell how divorce laws are sexist towards men and women, sexism against men being common, and how modern feminism is sexist towards women. Taken from Joe Rogan Experience #950.
My mum cheated on my dad with half the town and his friends while he worked 60+ hours a week. He thought she was saving the money he made. When he found out she was cheating she took me and my brother away from him. A judge ordered that he could see his sons once every two weeks and he had to pay child support and alimony to her until we were both 16. He did nothing wrong and lost everything. Meanwhile she got her kids and a free pass for years. When she took us to another country he stopped paying everything. She then started calling him a deadbeat and chased him in the courts for his cash. I haven't spoken to my mother for twenty years.
Atom Storm goddamn that's a cold hearted person right there. Her kids became weapons used against the very person that helped her make them. If she doesn't know why you don't speak to her jot that shit down in a Mother's Day card.
Atom Storm The one good thing from your story is that you and your brother were able to still see your father and not be kept from him altogether and brain washed by your mother, as it happens all too often. A good friend of mine has two daughters with his ex wife and when they were only 1yr and 3yrs old the mom took off to another state with a new guy. It took my friend 7 years to locate her and then get the courts to force the mom to let him see the girls. Sadly the mom had 7 years to brain wash the girls against their own father and no matter how hard he tried there was no getting through to them. The girls are now 18 and 20 and have cut off all communication with their dad. It's heart breaking for him and what the mom did is disgusting. Too many women seem to get the idea that the children are somehow more hers than they are the dad's and when they no longer want the man they think he no longer has rights to the children. Judges should give full custody to the dads in cases like that.
My mother divorced my dad, and to this day she lies about cheating. I watched her and my sister move into her boyfriend’s huge house. Ex sergeant major of the marine Corp, multiple vehicles, a boat, pays everything in cash. He bought her a Harley just because, so they could ride together. Within months my dad gave up and was diagnosed with cancer. He passed just 4 months later. They lived in luxury; and I slept in a tiny fishing trailer by the lake in the middle of winter. My mom blames me for all of my hardships, and I’ve worked very, very hard to try to keep my head afloat. Just watching it all unravel broke me. And I’ve tried so hard to get ahead in life, but it never happens. It haunts me, and it’s like a black cloud follows me everywhere and will not let me get ahead. I’ll never not feel my dad’s broken heart.
Hello Tyler. My best wishes with you buddy. I know your time is rough but you are more powerful than your circumstances. May God bless you with health, prosperity.
You can go through it my man, Life is tough, extremelly tough, but you're tougher, and you are gonna be able to get over this situation, My best wishes to you.
What’s really messed up is when it’s proven that a man never committed sexual assault on a woman and she doesn’t receive any prison time for falsely accusing that man. He can never get that time back. Having to spend time in prison for a crime he didn’t commit and she gets to go on with her life. How’s that for male privilege?
Georgie Wheldon well it’s different on college campuses. On college campuses women falsely accuse men of rape all the time. Had it happen to a friend of mine, kicked out of the university
@@georgiewheldon7409 Maybe your not reflecting on how big of a deal it is to get kicked out of college by a psuedo-legal system that seems to make up its' own rules.
Georgie Wheldon dodging a question about somebody else’s personal life? I know he didn’t rape her based on the the details of the case that I’m not just gonna openly share with the world.
Georgie Wheldon I think you’re missing the point saying false rape accusations barely happen and then proceed to say the amount of people convicted on rape accusations is so low. Maybe it’s because a lot of these accusations aren’t true.
@@georgiewheldon7409 that is true. I didn't get raped but I did get sexually assaulted by a college professor while at his home getting a private lesson. There have actually been rumors about him but they were all told mockingly and jokingly, I didn't take them seriously. After the assault I realized he has been doing this for years. I also realized that coming forth to the police would do me more harm than good. My social and probably academic life would be totally destroyed. So I just let it go, finished my degree and never looked back. He is probably still doing this so...I'm not proud of this.
Feminism made my life awful, for many years I was thought that I was a victim and weak, and so I was always very angry and felt powerless. Literally victim mentality, when others are responsible for your miserable life and you have no power to change it. Of course I was also very alone. As you know, when you feel a certain way about yourself, life offers you countless opportunities to see your idea confirmed, if you present yourself like a victim, it's natural to people to treat you as you believe you are. Ever since I completely abandoned this shitty ideology, stopped being angry and aggressive, embraced men's and women's different qualities and roles, no man has ever disrespected me again, not even once! Men hold the door for me, men listen to me, lift heavy things for me, I swear men treat me like a princess. I'm not sure why it is, maybe they feel I'm appreciative and I don't fear or despise them? My impression is that it's very natural of men to want to protect women, as long as you don't demand it of them while treating them like potential monsters.
Thats what I would love to do for women who acknowledge our role as men. I understand women naturally have to bear some biological hardships, so its natural that men have to compensate for that with little things (e.g., lift heavy objects, be wet when theres only one umbrella, be cold when a woman didnt bring enough warm clothes...). But some women need to understand that we do that because we want the best for them, not because we want to assert dominance or think they cant take care of themselves.
@Chloe Price Attention? On TH-cam comment section? Hey, we dont have the same ambitions in life. Still, I was stating a fact. At least more tyan once, I've been told by women that they deserve more than equality, and that It's some kind of historical vengence against men. A woman cheats on you with your best friend, demand divorce and take half of your house. Are you oblivious enough to deny that this kind of disgusting behaviour exists?
My first and only experience with the sexism of a feminist was at a factory I once worked in. I was palleting boxes half the day, she was lidding those said boxes. She wouldn't shut-up about the feminist movement, how women deserve equal rights and opportunities just the same as men, to which I replied "I totally agree. Rotation time" She gets down to the pallet, picks up one box and says "I'm not doing this. This is a mans job" ... And that very sentencing has summed up the definition of what feminism really is.
I had an English professor in New Zealand who was from St Lucia in the West Indies. She had been lecturing at the university for a while - she was even the head of the department at one point. During a lecture, she started talking about her experience as a female professor at the university. She said that she had more problems with female colleagues due to her ethnicity than she did with male colleagues because of her gender. In a class dominated by white chicks she then dropped this bomb: "Compared to the struggles of 'coloured' people in the world, feminism is a luxury."
Wife - I don't want to be married to you anymore. Husband- why ? I didn't cheat on you, i didn't abuse you, i provide for you. I thought you loved me. Wife- I did love you but now i don't. I'm going to take half your stuff, your gonna have to move out of the house that you pay for, and your only going to see your kids when i say so. Husband- that's not fair, you can't do that. Wife - yes i can! , if you don't like it take me to court. Husband- i can't afford to fight you in court and support you Wife- not my problem and btw dance class fees are due so im gonna need that money by the end of the week. That's how divorce goes for men. Even if you "win" in court, it's usually too late by the time things are settled you end up broke and your lawyer is buying a new boat!
And to add an extra layer of sexism. If this (person) who took half your stuff and made your life turn upside down. If they weren't female. You would kill that person. 🤷♂️😟
Amy have you ever heard about MGTOW? Or the manosphere? The problem are there are more unauthentic men and women than authentic men and women, during the last 5 years I became pretty much asexual because I met more and more delusional women, and no I don’t think there are only bad women but the good ones are rare
Fabian Hoffmann MGTOW and third wave feminism are both awful, pathetic movements that further separate men and women. The only thing that’s changing is that love is dying.
@Amy If you understand this, then you belong to those rare women who really deserves to find and be with a high-class man who loves you more than anything on this planet.
I work at a restaurant and it baffles me how often my female coworkers will talk about feminism and being hard workers yet none clean the grill or cook the food or lift boxes, restock rice. They make all the guys do it go figure
My brother was living with an ex-girlfriend of his and had 2 kids. She cheated on him many times and told him that she didn't love him and wanted him out He moved out, allowing her to have the house and was paying her child support in cash. She would even stop him form seeing his own kids, even after the court told her that he also have equal rights to see his kids. This happened 3 times. But then, she deicide hat she wanted more money for child support and took my brother to court. The Judge said that he had to pay child support, but ended up being over 30% less than he was giving her in the first place. So due to this, she stopped him from seeing his kids again. The kids are grown up, one hate her mother, while the other hates her father (my brother) due to the emotional screw ups that the mother had created. I do want a relationship, but afraid to marry based on this unfair bullshit that takes place on men. I have had a couple of ex-girlfriends that said that they want to sing a prenup. One wanted to me to sign one if we got married, but she still said that she should be entitled to what I earned. I walked away form her after telling her to fuck off.
Men and women are different I think that feminism should not exist. Men and women I think should hold different societal responsibilities. Look at how perfect Japanese society functions. It is because each gender accepts that they both have different societal responsibilities. Both genders are equal but both genders have different roles.
He talks more about it in another video. He is talking about his NewsRadio co-star Dave Foley from Canada. At the time of marriage Dave was not making a lot but by the time of divorce, he was the star of NewsRadio making a lot of money and ordered to pay alimony based on this high salary. Please note this was a long time ago. I’m Canadian and it is up to the particular judge how much and how long they will grant alimony. They base it on many factors like the persons earning potential, lifestyle and years of the relationship (common law or marriage). In Canada the payor of alimony gets to claim it as a tax expense and the recipient has to claim it as earnings and pay tax.
Carly That’s crazy. We have some messed up divorce laws in America, but as far as I know, and I could be wrong, it’s pretty unheard of to have to pay alimony for the rest of your life to a single person.
This is pretty common in California AFAIK. The law there is that if you're married for 10yrs or more, alimony is for life. Unless something's changed...
I been raising my special needs 3 year old alone for 3 years. I have received 0 child support from her mom. Reverse the situation I’d be in fucking jail.
It's weird because it's the same women who say they're feminists and are just as strong as men and look women are strong especially when they have to give birth but then switch to being weak and frail only when it's suitable for them which begs the question do they believe they're strong or not themselves
I mean, as a woman I get a lot of shit talk from other women because I don't call myself a feminist. I feel like the two genders should support and love each other ,not fight and tear each other down. Women love your men, appreciate them be good to other women. And vice versa
I'm a woman and I agree 100%. It's absolutely disgusting - the hypocrisy of many women - calling themselves independent, yet expecting an ex husband to give her HIS hard earned money for the rest of her/their lives for HER alone (alimony). 🤔 I wrote a paper on this in college close to 20 years ago. The class was called Psychology of Women and my spin was this: Why are women being hypocrites and sexist? While giving my accompanying presentation, most of the women in the class listened to me with their jaws dropped. Interestingly enough, the professor was a man. Needless to say, my final grade was an A+ 😄
My mom walked out on our family when I was 4 years old. Neighbors were eye-witnesses she was bringing other men into the house while my dad worked. My dad happily raised us while pouring money into her purse. I asked him why he wouldn't re-marry. When I grew up, I figured it out: he was fucking smart.
your dad was smart in realizing that he wasn't wise enough in his choice of women to make a 2nd attempt. Not all women are alike any more than all men are alike. there are shitty disloyal men too , though these days there isn't social pressure to marry and people aren't considered "strange outcasts" for being lifelong bachelors.
From the moment he said he was a feminist he seemed to act superior to joe by saying senseless feminist bullshit while joe calmly tried to explain why dude is wrong lmao
Exactly, this is petty sexual rivalry that's developed along with those who never reconciled with their complimentary sex. Long ago, boys and girls would mostly outgrow this behavior prior to their 20s, but now...... yeah. The fundamental balance of masculine and feminine has been disrupted.
My sister is a divorce attorney. She had a case where the woman filed for divorce because she had an affair and wanted to come clean and marry her lover. There was photo evidence of the affair and a video made by nanny cams. And she was honest about it. Still, her husband that was cheated on, he had to pay for her attorneys, he has to pay her a fixed amount for the rest of her life and he has to pay for her new home and car. The judge reportedly said it’s because he had abandoned her needs, which is why she had an affair. There was also a case where the man filed for divorce because the woman wanted to get a sex change. He ended up having to pay for her surgery and alimony while she was unable to work during recovery.
Like Dave Chapelle said: if a woman has the right to have an abortion without even consulting her husband/boyfriend, said husband/boyfriend should have the right to abandon the baby without having to pay.
That makes no sense actually. Because the first one entails no future responsibility on either parent, while the second places all the responsibility on one parent. They don't even relate. But that being said, I don't think that the decision to abort should be allowed to be made without the father.
Mario F. There's nothing wrong with a man promoting fair and equal treatment of all people regardless of gender. Clearly, no one should be siding with feminist extremists that want unfair privileges but there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting fair treatment across the board.
Minnesota Nice Guy - Life isn't fair. Men an women are not equal, they're counterparts. Trying to make women equal to men is like prying two engines into your car and removing the transmission. It's a schlock rod. All you end up making is a dangerous monster. Am I wrong? Look around.
I'm a woman and I think that men have every right to be mad about this. I'm mad too. There are some horrible money grubbing bitches out there who should not be rewarded for it!!!
My parents split up when I was 7. My sister is 3 years younger. My Grand parents paid for my mother to goto University. Brought her a car. My Grand mother travelled 45mins on a train each way, twice a week to help clean our house, cook us meals, buy us food. My mother refused to go guarantor for a bank loan to buy a car. Told me to ask my father, knowing full well he wouldn't. But paid for my sister to goto University. Brought her 2 cars. Gave her free board to live at home, while I paid $150 A week. Told me I was the Black sheep of the family as I was the only one that never went to university. My father had another family. Waited until my sister and I were over 18 then suddenly could afford overseas holidays that my sister and I never got to go on. Now as much as that is sexism. And seems like a hard luck story. Because I couldn't goto University. I got a trade. I don't have any dept. And my base wage is $120,000 Australian per year for 3 days work a week. Plus I can do all the overtime I want. My university grad sister is in dept, and earns $60,000 per year. Don't let emotional history or road blocks hold you back. Be the best you!
thats a good story, but many, many men and boys have been destroyed becuase of shit like this. some just never just never get out and kill themselves or others.
My mom, (God rest her soul, I love her very much and I know it in my bones that she always loved me dearly and did her best) was a lesbian for practically my entire life, right up until just before she died. If you didn't know, lesbian relationships are the most volatile from a domestic abuse perspective, (the numbers reported are kind of all over the place, admittedly, but there's no denying my experience and the single congruity between all the disparate studies, that being that domestic abuse is statistically more common in same-sex pairings and especially female-female pairings) and I witnessed countless examples of the female bias in our society. Time and time again, my mother and her few different girlfriends she had over the years would drink heavily and proceed to beat the absolute shit out of one another with practically zero consequences. The police would come, they would exchange a few words, and then... leave. Not once, not one single time did my mother or her girlfriends catch a citation, go to jail, or have to attend AA/Anger Management. Nothing. The one time I decide I've had enough and decide to stop my mom's girlfriend from choking me and headbutted her right in the nose... cops, big boy jail, mom/girlfriend sold all my belongings to pay for legal fees, and the sweetest little cherry on top is the "domestic violence" charge that precludes me from legally participating in a handful of things in life for the rest of my days. Yes, I showed the police my neck and face bruises. They didn't take pictures, they didn't offer medical attention, they just did not give a fuck. They slapped a label on me and tossed me in the trash. An expendable male. I've worked with a few attorneys and am well on the way to having this expunged from my record, but it's a slow and costly process. Ladies, I love ya, but just because you can leverage something doesn't mean you should. "Life is a balance between holding on and letting go." -Rumi
@@cheriedeurope I think that is because there are far fewer consequences for women when they do lose control. A man understands if he snaps, for whatever reason, there are dire consequences that could ruin his career, his family, and his life. There's no backstop against women when they act violently or irrationally to the point it hurts others. There is none. Not all women take advantage of this, of course, I'm not saying that, but those that do, do it knowingly, and are well aware of the fact that basically the law gives them cart blanche to go completely nuts.
Was getting my ass beat with my hands up bleeding out my mouth by a girl who was mad at me at a concert, I was asking for help and nobody cared at all and some girls were even screaming “you go girl you don’t need him” cheering her on. This happened for 10 minutes and nobody did a thing including security. Later that day the same girl tried fighting my sister so I pushed her back with one arm away from my sister, 3 guys tried fighting me and I was getting booed at. That day turned me into the biggest anti modern feminist alive.
@@saraluvsherjuicyfruit4643 It may sound unlikely, but seeing the capabilities of idiocy in the world today, it wouldn't be a surprise. I've heard people with straight faces, say that cold weather is racist, having sexual preferences are transphobic, and white people are only concepts, so I really doubt that what happened to Hunter would be impossible.
Nino Carrion that's how I am. I deploy violence for self defense of myself and family only and I don't discriminate. Man woman dog bear ghost. It doesn't matter. Don't attack me or my family and you won't die.
Amby Cakes True feminists want equality for both men and women. It’s not about just respect. I think you should treat everyone with respect until they give you a reason not too. The ones that call themselves “feminist” but don’t believe that women should be able to get drafted too and what not are not true feminist.
Getting divorced is honestly my worst financial fear, how could I convince my future wife to sign a prenup without sounding like a jerk? Someone please respond
I had a child with a one night stand. I was young and dumb as they say. I was ordered to pay child support, which is fine, but the part I don't think is fine is I was 18, didn't have insurance at the time. She didn't have insurance either. The judge ordered me to pay the hospital bill. Not we split it, but I had to pay the entire bill. My son is 19 now. I calculated what it all cost. $118,000. Kids are expensive. Just graduated high school, and basically got a bill for 120,000 dollars and 18 years to pay it. It was really tough at times, there were many times I thought to myself, I could raise my son myself, and would cost me the same. I felt like I was paying for everything and she didn't have to financially support him at all. But I love my son, and I didn't mind paying to make sure he had everything he needed. But I felt so powerless, I had no control over anything. I was in control of no decisions in his life. The courts made it seem like I was nobody but the bank.
@Chloe Price Getting sick cannot be compared to $118,000 of child support. It's not that all women will do this to you, it's that all women CAN. Not every fish has the power to fuck you over for life. The risk of marrying or having a child with a woman has far exceeded the benefit in today's society. The only logical solution is to just walk away and focus on ourselves
Jimmy Dean Bowl Yep 100%. You don’t have to completely ignore women though, hookers are cheaper than wives or girlfriends, stay younger and better looking over the long term too.
@@Jdb63 LOL. Ya, I learned my lesson. I hope that one day this stuff will change. And fathers are given the opportunity to raise their children too. A 50/50 partnership. Where men are not just child support, but have every right to their children as the mother. And the mother is just as financially responsible. These decisions shouldn't be black and white, reality should matter. In my case, there was a period where I lost my job in my early 20's. She was married, lived in a beautiful home, drove a couple brand new cars, going on a couple vacations a year. Going to NFL games every other week. I was not in a good position. And a few months after losing my job, I got a summons in the mail to appear in court. I thought it was because I got a little behind on my payments, I was making them, but I was behind. ut no, it wasn't because I missed a couple payments. It was to inform me my payments were going up.
if you pay attention to their arguments closely you then realize all they see wrong or claim to be wrong is actually what they are trying to make for them selves ... when true equality is an even balance not a sway in either direction
its literaly the kid mentality on the play ground "Wanna play a game with me?, OK so you are level one mage and I (the women in the game) am a max level grand wizard" "And everytime you say you think you level up, you dont, ohh you did, well you didnt,"
Honestly I agree with this bc my mom didn't ever even demand child support money she was making due even though it was as difficult as it could be raising 5 children (one who had an illness of sorts that the state refused to pay for or help with) she could care less what these men were choosing to do with their lives. However, the state made her go to court and listen to my dad's problems when she had bigger things to worry about at home. They made him pay child support in the end, and she didn't even need a lawyer. It baffles my mind.
For real. We die more at our jobs. We r more homeless. More suicidal cuz of hos who use the child against the dad. I fucking struggle with this every damn day.
@Hailey This is coming from a woman, we are already treated better by society than men. We are nowhere near being treated as second-class citizens. What aspect of your life as a woman is so unfair as men are treated in divorce court, or in being required to die for their country in the case of war, or not being believed for a second when sexually abused? What part of the system is so unfair to you as a woman in comparison making you a second-class citizen? Genuinely answer this question
This shit always raises my overdrawn eyebrows...I think the problem with 'feminism' today is that it became less about actual human rights and more about rights of entitlement. This type of thinking does more harm than good because it makes us look like brainless idiots.
A JENSEN 50 years ago feminists used to literally throw themselves under buses in the name of equality. today's feminists would push a man under a bus to laugh at him
He called this so early. I protected women in the military for years but have been destroyed because someone overheard some sex jokes I made with a friend.
Now that the tables are turning where women are starting to pay alimony now, they are pushing for a change to end it. But what pisses me off is women labeling alimony to men, manimony. Alimony itself is a gender neutral term. But, the use of manimony is meant to insult, degrade and make men not want to take the alimony. It is insulting and sexist and completely manipulative.
in my office, i got accused of sexism because, and this is not an exaggeration: i asked to borrow her pen to put my signature on a report form. 100% true.
mate, you have no idea. part of me feels sorry for though, clearly something has happened to her in her past that makes her hate men so badly, but it's SO awkward.
Hughezy WrestlingAndComedy probably, but some people who feel weak and vulnerable latch on to any source of power they find. Crying sexism (maybe justifiably) has probably helped her get her own way before, so now its her 'go to' response to most situations when dealing with men. She's mentally conditioned to respond that way and it's only going to get worse with time the longer she gets away with doing it. She needs a female superior, that she respects, to correct her behaviour.
Adam McNeil for real this doesn't happen in the workplace. I've been given sexism warnings before by employers, but it was for semi-genuine reasons. No one gets a warning for just saying "can I borrow your pen".
Nobody stops to think about how our fathers taught boys to be the providers and protectors they are. Single mothers teach many of their sons to be takers and excuse makers.
As a strong, independent, educated woman... I am proud to say I am NOT a feminist. I see who these 'ladies' are that thump their chests in the name of "feminism" - I am absolutely not aligning myself with them!
Agree to disagree. I agree with the guest. Moderate, real feminists need to align themselves against the ones who are being fooled and used by the system.
what if the father cant even see his children? and she has a new husband? as now the woman is getting paid by more than one man. some women are collecting mens paychecks via having many chidlren.
I would have no problem paying child support for my children until they were able to work themselves. I mean I would’ve anyway if we wouldn’t have gotten a divorce. My wife’s friend got divorced and receives alimony. That was 30 years ago, never remarried and she’s lived with a dozen guys, has two homes and has never worked a day in her life. This woman knew how to work the system.
At 6:51, they cut something out that Joe was starting to say about how women should be the ones to pay alimony in certain situations. Really interesting that this has been edited. (the topic he's talking about starts at 6:22)
I know I’m very late to this video but man it’s heartbreaking. I’ve been an attorney for just shy of 7 years. In my first year as an attorney I had a man come to me seeking custody of his kids. He was a great guy, ALWAYS wanted an active role in both of his kids lives. He has 1 traffic ticket on his record from a time years ago when he was driving to the hospital fast because his wife went into labor and he was meeting her there, other than that he had a spotless record. He had a great job, he was a company executive making upward of $250,000 per year. His wife started abusing drugs he found out and tried therapy, he tried sending her to rehab, he did everything he could but she wouldn’t stop. He filed for divorce she got full custody and he got 2 days every other week with his kids. I fought this case for 4 years. Appealing ruling after ruling which just kept getting denied. The mother of his children had no job, he was paying for their kids both through child support and just because he loved them and wanted them to have a good life. She had a number of drug paraphernalia charges, she started dating a drug dealer who she allowed to move in with her (the kids lived in that same house). Through the legal system it took me over 4 years for a judge to realize a man with basically no record making over 250K per year, loved his children and would do anything from them offered them a better life than the drug addicted mother with no job who invited her drug dealer to live with her around her kids offered these kids a better life. Really think about it… it took over 1,400 days for the court to recognize “she’s the mother” wasn’t a stronger case for custody over someone who would move heaven on earth for those kids. Absolutely disgusting.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 Good for you and I wish you all the happiness. However, most every man who I consider a friend who married was divorced and has been psychologically or financially ruined. You are one of the lucky ones. Don't think for a second you won't end up unlucky.
@@Cary94 well thanks, I appreciate it. But luck has nothing to do with it. I prayed a lot and sought to do what was right more than just gratify myself. I got my friends family and wise people I trust involved in the process from the beginning. It made a huge difference. But few are willing in our culture to do this. And beyond that me and my wife are committed to our faith and to our marriage. Regardless of our feelings, which come and go, we are committed to the institution of marriage. We've had problems and we work them out together. So many people base Love and marriage upon their feelings but this is not what it's about. Frankly you can't trust your feelings. You have to be committed to something bigger than that.
Female cops are fucking crazy. My mom's friend who's a cop started hitting on me a while ago and she was one manipulative cunt. Women think they can get away with everything.
As long as its not the cop that proposes the illegal act i dont think it falls under entrapment, then again its been a year since i was in law class so im not positive
Joe Rogan is a great interviewer. His ability of giving concrete examples to make his point clear is amazing. Discussion on topics like feminism can easily be messed up when people use the same phrase to actually mean different things or people selectively generalize from certain incidences. Also, applauding to Rogan for how he stepped in by saying “I disagree” and gave an example of a divorced mother with a child when the guest oversimplified the argument on sexism in law.
In germany we have something called a "Frauen quote" or in English a "womans quota", which forces a company to have a certain amount of woman in leadership roles, like coo's etc. The law was pushed through like no other law ive seen. But people dont realize that companys will now just put some woman into a leadership role, but she will be ignored, because she isnt here because of her skill set but because shes a woman. I find this law incredibly sexist. And things like this should not be a thing
It's because a lot of companies would never allow for a woman to be in those positions. The women who arrive there, they still have the qualifications. The reason they may be ignored is because of..... Guess! Discrimination against women, which is the reason why these laws exist in the first place!
Women actually cannot win. If we want jobs, we're resented for being like men. If we are dependent, we are resented for being pathetic and dependent. If we have children but work, we are neglectful. If we have children and stay home with them, we're lazy morons. We. Cannot. Win.
Replying to a 2 year old post, but in the US there are tax incentives. So my company the owner put his wife as the company owner while he runs everything for tax benefits.
@@naariznica3133 But that's an overcorrection if you ask me. Yes, fix the discrimination, but not in a way that you just shoehorn women into a position whether or not they're qualified or competent at the work to meet a quota. That just doesn't make any sense. And that has become the problem, probably because companies are too lazy to find the women who would be capable at whatever level of work being filled. The thing is, doing that is bad not just for the company, but for the employees as well. And for the record, men are discriminated against too, only we don't get a national societal movement in place to push us to the top whether we deserve it or not. If we all sat down and actually understood each other and our value, we could make for a very healthy environment for all. But that's just not the case.
@@michlo3393 That’s not how it is in majority of cases though. That’s how a little child sees the world. Just because there is a quota, doesn’t mean the women aren’t fit for the positions. Especially since the roles we are talking about require degrees from the field and previous experience, and, believe it or not, they are on average not any less capable than their male counterparts. There are millions of qualified women seeking jobs in every field, even the ones which are predominantly male populated, and the quota allows them to have a chance to fight for the position, even with the discrimination present in our society. Any company with history and a sense for business will still pick valuable employees no matter the quota, since doing otherwise will harm the company and its profits. I won’t even go into your “men are discriminated too” comment - when it comes to the workforce: not systemically, not historically and not because they’re men, there are other variables at play. You could argue about the law system favouring women when it comes to divorce, but there are reasons for that too. Surely you don’t think that every successful woman got “pushed to the top” undeservingly? That’s sounds like an ironic caricature of a misogynist. If there is such national movement where I can just push a button and become a CEO from my living room, please tell me where to apply. We could have a healthy discourse and “environment” in the future, when you sit down with yourself, stop looking at the world from the lens of your deep-rooted prejudice, and realise you’re not the one who dictates or understands other’s “value”.
Monster of Analysis thing is, she was an undercover cop. and he wanted to get with this cute girl that just switched into school. he made it clear he didnt smoke at all but that he would try to find someone to buy some to give to her. look up Justin Laboy Park Vista High School.
Monster of Analysis he was gonna GIVE it to her out of school, but she made him give it to her at school and then accept her money even though he made it clear he didnt want her money. then, by those standards, it was considered selling pot on school grounds which is a felony
Child support is legit, but let's not assume it's a man's obligation, but rather it's the non custodial parent's obligation, which could also be a woman.
Child support is far from legit. Child support needs to be closely monitored because women are no better than men. Women get tempted by all the same shit. That being said a lot of child support in the world isnt used for the child.
@@ragingmcqueen My brothers ex had two kids that wound up having autism. She's been getting fat checks from the state for their autism forever. They ate spaghettioes and hotdogs for their three squares while mom got her lots of nice tattoos, backstage passes to her favorite bands and artists, super expensive computer and whatever else she wanted without working a day.. Once the boys started getting older and the threat of losing their checks started looming, she hurried up and got her a new man 👌👍☝️👉🤙✊👊
@@ragingmcqueen - Child support and cheating are 2 completely separate subjects family law doesn't take infidelity in to account in anyone's favor and women pay it too what's done with it is generally not monitored anymore than regular income can or should be monitored the non custodial parent has a responsibility to provide for their children in most cases it's a good thing
If anyone wants to know more about the seventeen year old boy, Lin-Manuel Miranda made a musical about it called 21 Chump Street. His education was ruined because of it.
No Joe. That law is not sexist. -The guy did the deed, he's paying the price for HIS action. -He didn't have to marry her. -He didn't have to agree to have kids and even if it was unplanned (well he should have been a big boy and realized that it's very possible to impregnant a woman even with protection). -Not to mention, women lose time at work ,once they become mothers, decreasing their take home pay, which means they have trouble economically. -THS is why ex husbands/partners, are to pay alimony/child support. -This money is important especially if women work in low end jobs or have not had opportuntiies to advance through education or work experiences. And You're a pretty crappy human being for encouraging men to abandon their children, physically and financially....just because they can't be grown ass men and realize they have choices to make. If they don't the responsibility of being a partner or parent, then they should remain single.
“Child support should be mandatory” First heavily reform child support laws to be reasonable and “shared parenting time” needs to be the presumption in custody cases wherever possible aka when no abuse is present and no other limiting factors preventing it. “Her body her choice” then be consistent “his body his choice too” that includes his wallet since his body and mind is what he uses to produce his income.
Very true , as a women who has a career and has always taken pride in being able to sustain my own lifestyle by working hard I think alimony is totally sexist and disgusting. It’s one thing like joe said to pay alimony for a few years to get someone back on their feet if that’s the circumstances but shouldn’t take any one more than 1 or 2 years to completely stand up on their own two feet. Gross.
Christopher Jones if you find a great gal then do it, the unfortunate thing is there are so many hucksters and d-bag girls out.there its very hard to distinguise te good from the bad. Us guys have a real disadvantage in that our penises are so powerful when we are young.
The only person you really need to marry is yourself. The whole concept of ‘You are a half of what you are and you need to find the other half(husband/wife) is just absolute bull crap to me
I understand where they are going but both of them are walking the line of victim blaming. It's extremely difficult to come forward as a rape victim and sometimes you do need help not as a woman or a man but as a person.
They are completely ignoring the simple fact that most men don't even show up to court to try to get custody of their kids. In cases where men try to get custody, they usually get it. Go look at the stats, they back this up. They just don't show up to court- and you have zero excuse to not show up for your own children. Sorry, but this is just pathetic. The alimony points? Yeah, I don't think you should pay alimony for life. But if your wife gave up her career to raise your kids, she traded her career for yours. You left the relationship benefitting from her sacrifice and she leaves net negative because she stayed with the kids. Yeah, she made that choice, but is it fair for her to get screwed? And child support.... they act like it's some kind of penalty towards the man. Sorry, they are your kids. You have a financial obligation to take care of them. Are there women who scam this system? Sure. But fix what is unfair rather than screwing over vulnerable people. We have an epidemic of single motherhood just as much as we have an epidemic of absentee fathers. Blame lies with both parties. People need to grow TF up and stop having babies until they are in committed relationships where they can afford (both mentally and financially) to raise children. Children deserve better than these weak men and weak women.
Yup, this guy is a complete tool..everything he said was defending women in some strange ass way...Somehow he claims its still the Patriarchy's fault that men fuck over men .when in reality its guys like this tool that the women use to make and enforce these laws....god i wish people like this guy would just disappear
CartRich LLC He’s being completely reasonable... It’s sexist to both men and woman, how is that so hard to understand? They treat women as tho they can’t take care of themselves, and they force men to take care of them (ie. paying alimony). It’s really easy to understand, I don’t know how it flew right over your head lmao.
Samuel Esparzaz his point is that it's both. He is pointing out to these new feminists how destructive and patriarchal their beliefs actually are-- even towards the ones they are trying to "save."
America is surely a lady's first country. I also wonder how those laws were made in favour of women, thanks for the answer. The men in power are expected to be feminists. If they aren't, then they are jerks!
@@helenahedgetrimming1818 The West is a gynocentric society. Even the most staunch supporters of the nuclear family, who viewed women as property, also viewed those same women as shiny trophies to display.
It's an unproven conspiracy theory, basically. The only difference between patriarchy and illuminati is we're allowed to make fun of those "new world order/illuminati" people.
castrateallmen then what if i answer : nothing wrong with considering women as dick holsters. We can escalate all day like that and nothing good will come out of it
Very true, there are some shitty men out here (along with women) but sweeping generalizations of men by feminist is ruining society. Not all men are misusing their power, have privilege, undervalue women, and are sexual predators and deviants. Personally I believe women are the architects of society and when we set the standard men will follow suit.
This is why I make sure I make enough money to take care of myself and if I ever get preggo I can move the f off on with my kid w/ no issues. I don’t want to even think about wasting my time with courts, alimony, even child support f all that, I’m a strong independent woman. 🤷🏻♀️
@@NormaLilia24 well then you're an acception because it's really a fact that children who come from single parents are more likely to become criminals look it up
he got dragged through the meat grinder of feminism and considers himself a feminist calling the people who did it patriarchal people who are sexist against women. I wonder if this man has ever had his ideas of feminism challenged.
hayfizzle I hate to burst your bubble, but sometimes they do. Men are stronger and better at fighting. Also, women get raped. Women can’t always handle themselves in physical situations like that.
Lebron Fitzgerald sorry to burst your bubble but i was high as fuck when i wrote that comment and 1. it doesn’t make any fucking sense 2. it was a joke😐
The "womens" movement did not bring value to female roles/traits, it just made it " ok " for women to act like men. If it was an "equal " rights, then men would be honored for being nurses, teachers etc. that have been held by women and not have to struggle with finances etc.
I would trade feminism for equal pay for equal work and opportunities, the elimination of violence against women (especially by their partners), autonomy over our own bodies, the elimination of sexual harassment in all its forms, and never again having to sit through mansplaining about what feminism is.
Alimony. The idea is that the woman gave up working to be a wife and therefore did not advance in career or education while the husband did. It really only makes sense 50 years ago when wives were expected to be homemakers exclusively.
Telling women they're victims is demeaning, telling men they're the source of all wrong in the world, is destructive. Feminism is hyperconcerned with the reach of language, they claim saying "fireman" instead of "firefighter" discourages girls and women from aspiring to be a firefighter, but naming the force of all evil in the world after men, and the force for justice after women, has no reach?
yes! this video needs to be shared! it's up to the woman to take care of herself, and they need to learn how to protect themselves! it's not misogynist to tell women they need to be vigilant and be taught how to protect themselves. trying to force only men to go to these mandatory classes in some colleges on "how not to rape" IS SEXIST TOWARDS MEN and is fucking ridiculous. a rapist is going to rape, no matter shaft he was taught in some dumb class. if men have to take those classes, then it should be fair to make it mandatory for women to take self defense classes.
Isaac Looper I'm ashamed of how my gender is representing itself. I've seen firsthand how women manipulate men and the system to take advantage on both ends. what feminism has become disgusts me. I completely understand why men don't want to get married anymore because there are no benefits for him. if (when) he gets divorced the court systems put in place will eat him alive by taking away his custody rights, child support, possibly alimony, and it takes YEARS to get these things settled, because for some reason divorced women are like pit bulls out for blood, and those vengeful bitches will do whatever they can to make his life HELL while she's living it up with a new man. meanwhile, these poor guys souls have been sucked out ,and they're just a shell of their former selves. it's embarrassing that women act in such ways now. I'm not saying all, but a good enough portion do. women already have life easier than men. there is no need for feminism to exist in the western cultures anymore.
Stefanie Anguiano Yes! Agreed, men naturally will rape. It's the females responsibility to protect themselves. If women just go to a party in a skirt, with no mace and talk to a male, they're basically asking to be raped. Stop blaming men for rape!
My mum cheated on my dad with half the town and his friends while he worked 60+ hours a week. He thought she was saving the money he made. When he found out she was cheating she took me and my brother away from him. A judge ordered that he could see his sons once every two weeks and he had to pay child support and alimony to her until we were both 16. He did nothing wrong and lost everything. Meanwhile she got her kids and a free pass for years. When she took us to another country he stopped paying everything. She then started calling him a deadbeat and chased him in the courts for his cash. I haven't spoken to my mother for twenty years.
Does the bitch know why you don't talk to her?
Atom Storm goddamn that's a cold hearted person right there. Her kids became weapons used against the very person that helped her make them. If she doesn't know why you don't speak to her jot that shit down in a Mother's Day card.
Atom Storm
Wow 😳
Thats depressing
Atom Storm The one good thing from your story is that you and your brother were able to still see your father and not be kept from him altogether and brain washed by your mother, as it happens all too often. A good friend of mine has two daughters with his ex wife and when they were only 1yr and 3yrs old the mom took off to another state with a new guy. It took my friend 7 years to locate her and then get the courts to force the mom to let him see the girls. Sadly the mom had 7 years to brain wash the girls against their own father and no matter how hard he tried there was no getting through to them. The girls are now 18 and 20 and have cut off all communication with their dad. It's heart breaking for him and what the mom did is disgusting. Too many women seem to get the idea that the children are somehow more hers than they are the dad's and when they no longer want the man they think he no longer has rights to the children. Judges should give full custody to the dads in cases like that.
Narc Mom . You did the right thing . No Contact ! God Speed !
My mother divorced my dad, and to this day she lies about cheating. I watched her and my sister move into her boyfriend’s huge house. Ex sergeant major of the marine Corp, multiple vehicles, a boat, pays everything in cash. He bought her a Harley just because, so they could ride together. Within months my dad gave up and was diagnosed with cancer. He passed just 4 months later. They lived in luxury; and I slept in a tiny fishing trailer by the lake in the middle of winter. My mom blames me for all of my hardships, and I’ve worked very, very hard to try to keep my head afloat. Just watching it all unravel broke me. And I’ve tried so hard to get ahead in life, but it never happens. It haunts me, and it’s like a black cloud follows me everywhere and will not let me get ahead. I’ll never not feel my dad’s broken heart.
Hello Tyler. My best wishes with you buddy. I know your time is rough but you are more powerful than your circumstances. May God bless you with health, prosperity.
Hope you achieve all the success in your life man! I know how that feels.
Take care brother.
Let that be ur motivation
You can go through it my man, Life is tough, extremelly tough, but you're tougher, and you are gonna be able to get over this situation, My best wishes to you.
What’s really messed up is when it’s proven that a man never committed sexual assault on a woman and she doesn’t receive any prison time for falsely accusing that man. He can never get that time back. Having to spend time in prison for a crime he didn’t commit and she gets to go on with her life. How’s that for male privilege?
Georgie Wheldon well it’s different on college campuses. On college campuses women falsely accuse men of rape all the time. Had it happen to a friend of mine, kicked out of the university
@@georgiewheldon7409 Maybe your not reflecting on how big of a deal it is to get kicked out of college by a psuedo-legal system that seems to make up its' own rules.
Georgie Wheldon dodging a question about somebody else’s personal life? I know he didn’t rape her based on the the details of the case that I’m not just gonna openly share with the world.
Georgie Wheldon I think you’re missing the point saying false rape accusations barely happen and then proceed to say the amount of people convicted on rape accusations is so low. Maybe it’s because a lot of these accusations aren’t true.
@@georgiewheldon7409 that is true. I didn't get raped but I did get sexually assaulted by a college professor while at his home getting a private lesson. There have actually been rumors about him but they were all told mockingly and jokingly, I didn't take them seriously. After the assault I realized he has been doing this for years. I also realized that coming forth to the police would do me more harm than good. My social and probably academic life would be totally destroyed. So I just let it go, finished my degree and never looked back. He is probably still doing this so...I'm not proud of this.
Feminism made my life awful, for many years I was thought that I was a victim and weak, and so I was always very angry and felt powerless. Literally victim mentality, when others are responsible for your miserable life and you have no power to change it. Of course I was also very alone. As you know, when you feel a certain way about yourself, life offers you countless opportunities to see your idea confirmed, if you present yourself like a victim, it's natural to people to treat you as you believe you are. Ever since I completely abandoned this shitty ideology, stopped being angry and aggressive, embraced men's and women's different qualities and roles, no man has ever disrespected me again, not even once! Men hold the door for me, men listen to me, lift heavy things for me, I swear men treat me like a princess. I'm not sure why it is, maybe they feel I'm appreciative and I don't fear or despise them? My impression is that it's very natural of men to want to protect women, as long as you don't demand it of them while treating them like potential monsters.
What an awesome comment!
Sugoi desu ✨
I guess at some point we have to say “some people” instead of “feminists” cuz that’s prejudice lmao
really liked your story, thakns for sharing :))
Thats what I would love to do for women who acknowledge our role as men. I understand women naturally have to bear some biological hardships, so its natural that men have to compensate for that with little things (e.g., lift heavy objects, be wet when theres only one umbrella, be cold when a woman didnt bring enough warm clothes...). But some women need to understand that we do that because we want the best for them, not because we want to assert dominance or think they cant take care of themselves.
"Feminism when it advantages me, traditionalism when it advantages me." -Modern Women
@Chloe Price I know a lot of woman that arent into feminism, but still have the same logic.
@Chloe Price Attention? On TH-cam comment section? Hey, we dont have the same ambitions in life. Still, I was stating a fact. At least more tyan once, I've been told by women that they deserve more than equality, and that It's some kind of historical vengence against men.
A woman cheats on you with your best friend, demand divorce and take half of your house. Are you oblivious enough to deny that this kind of disgusting behaviour exists?
@Chloe Price sounds like you're the one that wants all the attention. Typical female.
@Chloe Price lol you accuse me of shaming then try to do the same thing yourself...fucking hypocrite. Typical female yet again.
Men: gets pussy* now its ok do whatever.
My first and only experience with the sexism of a feminist was at a factory I once worked in. I was palleting boxes half the day, she was lidding those said boxes. She wouldn't shut-up about the feminist movement, how women deserve equal rights and opportunities just the same as men, to which I replied "I totally agree. Rotation time" She gets down to the pallet, picks up one box and says "I'm not doing this. This is a mans job" ... And that very sentencing has summed up the definition of what feminism really is.
YESSS! I had a similar situation at the factory I worked at.
your story sounds a little too convenient
No that sentence summed up that she’s stupid. Also, it sounds like you made that up.
Right. And the Westboro Baptist Church sums up what Christianity really is.
@Phil McCracken You however sound like a typical MRA.
I had an English professor in New Zealand who was from St Lucia in the West Indies. She had been lecturing at the university for a while - she was even the head of the department at one point. During a lecture, she started talking about her experience as a female professor at the university. She said that she had more problems with female colleagues due to her ethnicity than she did with male colleagues because of her gender. In a class dominated by white chicks she then dropped this bomb: "Compared to the struggles of 'coloured' people in the world, feminism is a luxury."
Wow
Damn …….. sigh ……
Thats right, woman are very lucky in the western world.
Wife - I don't want to be married to you anymore.
Husband- why ? I didn't cheat on you, i didn't abuse you, i provide for you. I thought you loved me.
Wife- I did love you but now i don't. I'm going to take half your stuff, your gonna have to move out of the house that you pay for, and your only going to see your kids when i say so.
Husband- that's not fair, you can't do that.
Wife - yes i can! , if you don't like it take me to court.
Husband- i can't afford to fight you in court and support you
Wife- not my problem and btw dance class fees are due so im gonna need that money by the end of the week.
That's how divorce goes for men. Even if you "win" in court, it's usually too late by the time things are settled you end up broke and your lawyer is buying a new boat!
And to add an extra layer of sexism. If this (person) who took half your stuff and made your life turn upside down. If they weren't female. You would kill that person. 🤷♂️😟
America wonders why domestic violence is on the rise. CHANGE THE 1950S LAWS YOU F%#@TARDS
Moral: Be a gay lawyer
Take half your stuff, is the dead giveaway of the problem and the root cause of divorce
Girls have asked me why I’m afraid of marriage and I tell them I’m not... im afraid of divorce
Same with me and I actually want to get married
Oh shit. Well said. It’s a good answer cuz your not being negative and talking down about it but stating something for your safety
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Nick Jordan then don’t get a divorce. Voilà problem solved
Alexander Gapour then get married, be nice to your bride, respect her, don’t cheat on her and don’t get a divorce
I can understand why men dont want to marry so much anymore. It's sad.
Amy have you ever heard about MGTOW? Or the manosphere? The problem are there are more unauthentic men and women than authentic men and women, during the last 5 years I became pretty much asexual because I met more and more delusional women, and no I don’t think there are only bad women but the good ones are rare
Fabian Hoffmann MGTOW and third wave feminism are both awful, pathetic movements that further separate men and women. The only thing that’s changing is that love is dying.
@Amy If you understand this, then you belong to those rare women who really deserves to find and be with a high-class man who loves you more than anything on this planet.
Stop taking the cheese, you mice
Thank you. A woman that’s not completely character flawed
I work at a restaurant and it baffles me how often my female coworkers will talk about feminism and being hard workers yet none clean the grill or cook the food or lift boxes, restock rice. They make all the guys do it go figure
My brother was living with an ex-girlfriend of his and had 2 kids.
She cheated on him many times and told him that she didn't love him and wanted him out
He moved out, allowing her to have the house and was paying her child support in cash.
She would even stop him form seeing his own kids, even after the court told her that he also have equal rights to see his kids.
This happened 3 times.
But then, she deicide hat she wanted more money for child support and took my brother to court.
The Judge said that he had to pay child support, but ended up being over 30% less than he was giving her in the first place.
So due to this, she stopped him from seeing his kids again.
The kids are grown up, one hate her mother, while the other hates her father (my brother) due to the emotional screw ups that the mother had created.
I do want a relationship, but afraid to marry based on this unfair bullshit that takes place on men.
I have had a couple of ex-girlfriends that said that they want to sing a prenup.
One wanted to me to sign one if we got married, but she still said that she should be entitled to what I earned.
I walked away form her after telling her to fuck off.
MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW.
Good job bro
Just go redpill bro. U know female nature so now you can’t go back. Now Play the game. Don’t quit the game
THE best response to her demands 👌 lol
"Men want love only if its torture". Remember bro, he chose that woman
People who are actual “feminists” would never feel the need to call themselves a feminist, it’s just called being a logical and fair human being
Exactly! Too many people mean too many different things by that word for me to get onboard.
Men and women are different I think that feminism should not exist. Men and women I think should hold different societal responsibilities. Look at how perfect Japanese society functions. It is because each gender accepts that they both have different societal responsibilities. Both genders are equal but both genders have different roles.
@@domnoya4130 yikes
@@domnoya4130 yes
This is so true!
They have bought out a new Barbie Doll..... its called 'Divorce Barbie', it comes with all of Ken's accessories
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LOL that was funny
Omg 😆
classic lol
This is why any honorable person who is marrying for love and companionship will happily sign a prenup.
Will you sign a prenup? Practice what you preach!
You get it Yo ✊
I couldn’t agree more
I won't sign a prenup...i have my own assets
Wylee Coyotee what lol do you know what a prenup is
He knows a guy who has to pay alimony for the rest of his life? That’s actually insane. I want to hear how the hell the court justified that.
He talks more about it in another video. He is talking about his NewsRadio co-star Dave Foley from Canada. At the time of marriage Dave was not making a lot but by the time of divorce, he was the star of NewsRadio making a lot of money and ordered to pay alimony based on this high salary. Please note this was a long time ago. I’m Canadian and it is up to the particular judge how much and how long they will grant alimony. They base it on many factors like the persons earning potential, lifestyle and years of the relationship (common law or marriage). In Canada the payor of alimony gets to claim it as a tax expense and the recipient has to claim it as earnings and pay tax.
Carly
That’s crazy. We have some messed up divorce laws in America, but as far as I know, and I could be wrong, it’s pretty unheard of to have to pay alimony for the rest of your life to a single person.
Maybe they were married for 50 years and divorced at a late age? obviously
This is pretty common in California AFAIK. The law there is that if you're married for 10yrs or more, alimony is for life. Unless something's changed...
@@seanlaffey3633 Not true. My friend is entitled to her husband's pension for life.
I been raising my special needs 3 year old alone for 3 years. I have received 0 child support from her mom. Reverse the situation I’d be in fucking jail.
God bless you man. My best wishes and prayers
Good man Good man
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god bless bro
What country are you from?
"I am woman hear me roar! Now take care of me"
i hate it
For real that shits mad annoying
It's weird because it's the same women who say they're feminists and are just as strong as men and look women are strong especially when they have to give birth but then switch to being weak and frail only when it's suitable for them which begs the question do they believe they're strong or not themselves
Fuck feminism
Facts!
I mean, as a woman I get a lot of shit talk from other women because I don't call myself a feminist.
I feel like the two genders should support and love each other ,not fight and tear each other down.
Women love your men, appreciate them be good to other women. And vice versa
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Agreed! It's a simple truth of life which nobody seems to accept or understand!
you can call yourself a feminist based on what you said. being a feminist also supports equality. :)
I'm a woman and I agree 100%. It's absolutely disgusting - the hypocrisy of many women - calling themselves independent, yet expecting an ex husband to give her HIS hard earned money for the rest of her/their lives for HER alone (alimony). 🤔
I wrote a paper on this in college close to 20 years ago. The class was called Psychology of Women and my spin was this: Why are women being hypocrites and sexist? While giving my accompanying presentation, most of the women in the class listened to me with their jaws dropped. Interestingly enough, the professor was a man. Needless to say, my final grade was an A+ 😄
You're trash
A woman was looking after the kids thinking man will provide financially forever
He cheated
What the
Alimony is importnat
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My mom walked out on our family when I was 4 years old. Neighbors were eye-witnesses she was bringing other men into the house while my dad worked. My dad happily raised us while pouring money into her purse. I asked him why he wouldn't re-marry. When I grew up, I figured it out: he was fucking smart.
your nieghbours might be lying.
@@peasant7214 It's spelled "neighbors". If you need to troll, at least up your game. Get past the 4th grade, at minimum.
@@johntomasik1555Neighbours is the British spelling of the word.
your dad was smart in realizing that he wasn't wise enough in his choice of women to make a 2nd attempt. Not all women are alike any more than all men are alike. there are shitty disloyal men too , though these days there isn't social pressure to marry and people aren't considered "strange outcasts" for being lifelong bachelors.
Voluntaryist he spelled it wrong even in the British spelling bud
This is basically “girls rule, boys drool” but serious.
Girls will be girls
From the moment he said he was a feminist he seemed to act superior to joe by saying senseless feminist bullshit while joe calmly tried to explain why dude is wrong lmao
Exactly, this is petty sexual rivalry that's developed along with those who never reconciled with their complimentary sex. Long ago, boys and girls would mostly outgrow this behavior prior to their 20s, but now...... yeah.
The fundamental balance of masculine and feminine has been disrupted.
@@jacobbelter9141 Did we watch the same video bro? Joe was agreeing with him for most of the time.
feminism is the equality of sexes not one more important
My sister is a divorce attorney. She had a case where the woman filed for divorce because she had an affair and wanted to come clean and marry her lover. There was photo evidence of the affair and a video made by nanny cams. And she was honest about it. Still, her husband that was cheated on, he had to pay for her attorneys, he has to pay her a fixed amount for the rest of her life and he has to pay for her new home and car. The judge reportedly said it’s because he had abandoned her needs, which is why she had an affair.
There was also a case where the man filed for divorce because the woman wanted to get a sex change. He ended up having to pay for her surgery and alimony while she was unable to work during recovery.
I’m a feminist and I think alimony should not exist and it’s just common sense
Like Dave Chapelle said: if a woman has the right to have an abortion without even consulting her husband/boyfriend, said husband/boyfriend should have the right to abandon the baby without having to pay.
Cant pay child support, if there aint no baby (points to forehead)
That makes no sense actually. Because the first one entails no future responsibility on either parent, while the second places all the responsibility on one parent. They don't even relate. But that being said, I don't think that the decision to abort should be allowed to be made without the father.
I'm sure this was a joke.
my money my choice
If a woman can absolve herself of all responsibility, then a man should be able to also
Every time I hear a man say "I am a feminist" it's like watching them get neutered
This man said that feminists were his heroes and he loved them. He had no cock or balls to begin with.
Mario F. There's nothing wrong with a man promoting fair and equal treatment of all people regardless of gender. Clearly, no one should be siding with feminist extremists that want unfair privileges but there's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting fair treatment across the board.
Minnesota Nice Guy , ayyy where in MN do you live?
I'm up by Duluth sorta ( Grand Rapids )
Minnesota Nice Guy - Life isn't fair. Men an women are not equal, they're counterparts. Trying to make women equal to men is like prying two engines into your car and removing the transmission. It's a schlock rod. All you end up making is a dangerous monster. Am I wrong? Look around.
I'm a woman and I think that men have every right to be mad about this. I'm mad too. There are some horrible money grubbing bitches out there who should not be rewarded for it!!!
I just realized how lucky and happy I am for being single. Whew! 😅
Life is good...
John Despo taken advantage of it bud! I know I am!
It's not just lucky, it's a luxury. You get to do whatever you want without worrying about anything. Love it
Dont get married without a prenup, or dont get married at all
I think I've heard cases that even with a prenup it didn't matter in the end...I would just don't get married
Good luck asking a great women to sign a prenup before getting married. She will divorce you on day 1.
I say only get a prenup if your CRAZY rich
@@Ari-lu5ve then dont marry her? Thats a good sign thats shes not for you
@Another MGTOW Monk it literally is. Just make sure to not make it a religious union. Its not watertight because religious bias is a thing...
@@uwotmatte7577 doesnt matter...you co-habitate, you share assets. Common law
My parents split up when I was 7. My sister is 3 years younger.
My Grand parents paid for my mother to goto University.
Brought her a car.
My Grand mother travelled 45mins on a train each way, twice a week to help clean our house, cook us meals, buy us food.
My mother refused to go guarantor for a bank loan to buy a car.
Told me to ask my father, knowing full well he wouldn't.
But paid for my sister to goto University.
Brought her 2 cars.
Gave her free board to live at home, while I paid $150 A week.
Told me I was the Black sheep of the family as I was the only one that never went to university.
My father had another family.
Waited until my sister and I were over 18 then suddenly could afford overseas holidays that my sister and I never got to go on.
Now as much as that is sexism.
And seems like a hard luck story.
Because I couldn't goto University.
I got a trade.
I don't have any dept.
And my base wage is $120,000 Australian per year for 3 days work a week. Plus I can do all the overtime I want.
My university grad sister is in dept, and earns $60,000 per year.
Don't let emotional history or road blocks hold you back.
Be the best you!
Just goes to show that coddling never helped anyone.
thats a good story, but many, many men and boys have been destroyed becuase of shit like this. some just never just never get out and kill themselves or others.
Both of your parents 👎
I hate to be this guy but it's debt
What trade are you in that pays 120k a year for 3 days work per week?
"Laws overwhelmingly favour women. Women most affected."
also, to fix this we need MORE FEMINISM.
That is a flat out lie.
@@Sara-ny2cq which one
My mom, (God rest her soul, I love her very much and I know it in my bones that she always loved me dearly and did her best) was a lesbian for practically my entire life, right up until just before she died. If you didn't know, lesbian relationships are the most volatile from a domestic abuse perspective, (the numbers reported are kind of all over the place, admittedly, but there's no denying my experience and the single congruity between all the disparate studies, that being that domestic abuse is statistically more common in same-sex pairings and especially female-female pairings) and I witnessed countless examples of the female bias in our society. Time and time again, my mother and her few different girlfriends she had over the years would drink heavily and proceed to beat the absolute shit out of one another with practically zero consequences. The police would come, they would exchange a few words, and then... leave. Not once, not one single time did my mother or her girlfriends catch a citation, go to jail, or have to attend AA/Anger Management. Nothing. The one time I decide I've had enough and decide to stop my mom's girlfriend from choking me and headbutted her right in the nose... cops, big boy jail, mom/girlfriend sold all my belongings to pay for legal fees, and the sweetest little cherry on top is the "domestic violence" charge that precludes me from legally participating in a handful of things in life for the rest of my days. Yes, I showed the police my neck and face bruises. They didn't take pictures, they didn't offer medical attention, they just did not give a fuck. They slapped a label on me and tossed me in the trash. An expendable male. I've worked with a few attorneys and am well on the way to having this expunged from my record, but it's a slow and costly process.
Ladies, I love ya, but just because you can leverage something doesn't mean you should. "Life is a balance between holding on and letting go." -Rumi
I am so sorry you went through this. My heart is with you.
sorry man for what you have to suffer. As a woman I could tell women tend to lose more control emotionally than men...
@@cheriedeurope I think that is because there are far fewer consequences for women when they do lose control. A man understands if he snaps, for whatever reason, there are dire consequences that could ruin his career, his family, and his life. There's no backstop against women when they act violently or irrationally to the point it hurts others. There is none. Not all women take advantage of this, of course, I'm not saying that, but those that do, do it knowingly, and are well aware of the fact that basically the law gives them cart blanche to go completely nuts.
Was getting my ass beat with my hands up bleeding out my mouth by a girl who was mad at me at a concert, I was asking for help and nobody cared at all and some girls were even screaming “you go girl you don’t need him” cheering her on. This happened for 10 minutes and nobody did a thing including security. Later that day the same girl tried fighting my sister so I pushed her back with one arm away from my sister, 3 guys tried fighting me and I was getting booed at. That day turned me into the biggest anti modern feminist alive.
r/thathappened
@@saraluvsherjuicyfruit4643 It may sound unlikely, but seeing the capabilities of idiocy in the world today, it wouldn't be a surprise.
I've heard people with straight faces, say that cold weather is racist, having sexual preferences are transphobic, and white people are only concepts, so I really doubt that what happened to Hunter would be impossible.
You shoulda been a feminist and punched her in the mouth.
Hunter Tobey how'd you get beat up in the first place.
Nino Carrion that's how I am. I deploy violence for self defense of myself and family only and I don't discriminate. Man woman dog bear ghost. It doesn't matter. Don't attack me or my family and you won't die.
Feminism implies that some are so weak that we need special treatment. You want to be treated with respect? Be something to respect. Period.
Amby Cakes True feminists want equality for both men and women. It’s not about just respect. I think you should treat everyone with respect until they give you a reason not too. The ones that call themselves “feminist” but don’t believe that women should be able to get drafted too and what not are not true feminist.
Period??? So sexist -_- jokes lol
Let me give you another 👍🏼
Amby Cakes no but equality is not special treatment it's same treatment
Yep! Common sense👍
Getting divorced is honestly my worst financial fear, how could I convince my future wife to sign a prenup without sounding like a jerk? Someone please respond
It is hard. My biggest fear as well.
Prenups can still be thrown out in court.
Just say that the priest told everybody in church to sign a pre-up or say that your mom is pressuring you
Asking for a prenup will hurt less than having your bank account drained.
I have net worth of 20 billions
the whole divorce thing is so spot on! I was a step mom for a while and saw how my ex's ex would treat him and the kid... its horrible!!
I had a child with a one night stand. I was young and dumb as they say. I was ordered to pay child support, which is fine, but the part I don't think is fine is I was 18, didn't have insurance at the time. She didn't have insurance either. The judge ordered me to pay the hospital bill. Not we split it, but I had to pay the entire bill. My son is 19 now. I calculated what it all cost. $118,000.
Kids are expensive. Just graduated high school, and basically got a bill for 120,000 dollars and 18 years to pay it.
It was really tough at times, there were many times I thought to myself, I could raise my son myself, and would cost me the same. I felt like I was paying for everything and she didn't have to financially support him at all.
But I love my son, and I didn't mind paying to make sure he had everything he needed. But I felt so powerless, I had no control over anything. I was in control of no decisions in his life. The courts made it seem like I was nobody but the bank.
For the love of god I hope you learned your lesson. It's gotten so bad that the only effective and sensible course of action is to just ignore women
@Chloe Price Getting sick cannot be compared to $118,000 of child support. It's not that all women will do this to you, it's that all women CAN. Not every fish has the power to fuck you over for life. The risk of marrying or having a child with a woman has far exceeded the benefit in today's society. The only logical solution is to just walk away and focus on ourselves
Jimmy Dean Bowl Yep 100%. You don’t have to completely ignore women though, hookers are cheaper than wives or girlfriends, stay younger and better looking over the long term too.
Female privilege
@@Jdb63 LOL. Ya, I learned my lesson. I hope that one day this stuff will change. And fathers are given the opportunity to raise their children too. A 50/50 partnership. Where men are not just child support, but have every right to their children as the mother. And the mother is just as financially responsible.
These decisions shouldn't be black and white, reality should matter. In my case, there was a period where I lost my job in my early 20's. She was married, lived in a beautiful home, drove a couple brand new cars, going on a couple vacations a year. Going to NFL games every other week. I was not in a good position. And a few months after losing my job, I got a summons in the mail to appear in court.
I thought it was because I got a little behind on my payments, I was making them, but I was behind. ut no, it wasn't because I missed a couple payments. It was to inform me my payments were going up.
Totally agree with the message in this video. I always say, women want equal rights until it's not convenient for them.
Well said my man
if you pay attention to their arguments closely you then realize all they see wrong or claim to be wrong is actually what they are trying to make for them selves ... when true equality is an even balance not a sway in either direction
its literaly the kid mentality on the play ground "Wanna play a game with me?, OK so you are level one mage and I (the women in the game) am a max level grand wizard" "And everytime you say you think you level up, you dont, ohh you did, well you didnt,"
@QUEENDOM white people have never had an equality movement...
QUEENDOM No they don’t. You don’t see any white lives matter movements do ya?
Honestly I agree with this bc my mom didn't ever even demand child support money she was making due even though it was as difficult as it could be raising 5 children (one who had an illness of sorts that the state refused to pay for or help with) she could care less what these men were choosing to do with their lives. However, the state made her go to court and listen to my dad's problems when she had bigger things to worry about at home. They made him pay child support in the end, and she didn't even need a lawyer. It baffles my mind.
"I want to be treated just like a man" except of course when it comes to manual labour jobs, criminal justice and divorce law
For real. We die more at our jobs. We r more homeless. More suicidal cuz of hos who use the child against the dad. I fucking struggle with this every damn day.
@rafael for real man it's crazy. My ex talks shit about me all the time on fb but I don't do that to her. What kind of a mother is that?
@Hailey This is coming from a woman, we are already treated better by society than men. We are nowhere near being treated as second-class citizens. What aspect of your life as a woman is so unfair as men are treated in divorce court, or in being required to die for their country in the case of war, or not being believed for a second when sexually abused? What part of the system is so unfair to you as a woman in comparison making you a second-class citizen? Genuinely answer this question
@haileymae11how are you treated like second class citizens
“He f***** her so hard she can’t work anymore - until the end of her life”. This just killed me.
This shit always raises my overdrawn eyebrows...I think the problem with 'feminism' today is that it became less about actual human rights and more about rights of entitlement. This type of thinking does more harm than good because it makes us look like brainless idiots.
A JENSEN 50 years ago feminists used to literally throw themselves under buses in the name of equality. today's feminists would push a man under a bus to laugh at him
the frog Why would you throw yourself under a bus, to prove a point?
A JENS lmao!!! "My overdrawn eyebrows" ...nice
the frog feminism 50 years ago gave us 3rd wave feminism
Marcus Davis no 1990s is rise of third wave feminism
He called this so early. I protected women in the military for years but have been destroyed because someone overheard some sex jokes I made with a friend.
Thank you for your service sir
I lived in my car for 8yrs
To pay my child support
Fuck!
No Hard Feelings it wasn’t that bad
But I’m kinda weird.
@@PInk77W1 oh! Got it.
should have worn a condom
@@user-uf7ve4sr4r wearing a condom is like kissing thru a screen door.
Now that the tables are turning where women are starting to pay alimony now, they are pushing for a change to end it. But what pisses me off is women labeling alimony to men, manimony. Alimony itself is a gender neutral term. But, the use of manimony is meant to insult, degrade and make men not want to take the alimony. It is insulting and sexist and completely manipulative.
Yeah. Typical hypocrisy by power groups when they lose their ill gotten privileges.
90% of alimony is still payed by men.
Woman moment
The shaming tactic, it's the standard response when a woman realizes she is wrong and her emotions take over.
in my office, i got accused of sexism because, and this is not an exaggeration: i asked to borrow her pen to put my signature on a report form.
100% true.
Hughezy WrestlingAndComedy you should quit. sounds like a dangerous place
mate, you have no idea.
part of me feels sorry for though, clearly something has happened to her in her past that makes her hate men so badly, but it's SO awkward.
Hughezy WrestlingAndComedy probably, but some people who feel weak and vulnerable latch on to any source of power they find. Crying sexism (maybe justifiably) has probably helped her get her own way before, so now its her 'go to' response to most situations when dealing with men. She's mentally conditioned to respond that way and it's only going to get worse with time the longer she gets away with doing it. She needs a female superior, that she respects, to correct her behaviour.
I doubt that's true.
Adam McNeil for real this doesn't happen in the workplace.
I've been given sexism warnings before by employers, but it was for semi-genuine reasons. No one gets a warning for just saying "can I borrow your pen".
These laws are made for your older parents and older. Respectable hard working people. They are no longer valid to many people yet still exist.
Nobody stops to think about how our fathers taught boys to be the providers and protectors they are. Single mothers teach many of their sons to be takers and excuse makers.
As a strong, independent, educated woman... I am proud to say I am NOT a feminist. I see who these 'ladies' are that thump their chests in the name of "feminism" - I am absolutely not aligning myself with them!
katiejon17
Nice! Judge Judy said the same thing.
Agree to disagree. I agree with the guest. Moderate, real feminists need to align themselves against the ones who are being fooled and used by the system.
The female version of an Uncle Tom smdh
that's great. but it's too late. the small 10% of completely nutty women and politicans have ruined it for the other normal 90%.
i wish there were more women like you
Child support is only acceptable when it's the real biological father that's paying.
And how long is acceptable? What if like most cases the father has split custody 50/50?
Andrew Davison Ok then....
@@whanethewhip I hope these fucking law makers get a taste of their own medicine some day
what if the father cant even see his children? and she has a new husband? as now the woman is getting paid by more than one man. some women are collecting mens paychecks via having many chidlren.
I would have no problem paying child support for my children until they were able to work themselves. I mean I would’ve anyway if we wouldn’t have gotten a divorce. My wife’s friend got divorced and receives alimony. That was 30 years ago, never remarried and she’s lived with a dozen guys, has two homes and has never worked a day in her life. This woman knew how to work the system.
At 6:51, they cut something out that Joe was starting to say about how women should be the ones to pay alimony in certain situations. Really interesting that this has been edited. (the topic he's talking about starts at 6:22)
I missed that the first time!
I thought the same thing
I know I’m very late to this video but man it’s heartbreaking. I’ve been an attorney for just shy of 7 years. In my first year as an attorney I had a man come to me seeking custody of his kids. He was a great guy, ALWAYS wanted an active role in both of his kids lives. He has 1 traffic ticket on his record from a time years ago when he was driving to the hospital fast because his wife went into labor and he was meeting her there, other than that he had a spotless record.
He had a great job, he was a company executive making upward of $250,000 per year. His wife started abusing drugs he found out and tried therapy, he tried sending her to rehab, he did everything he could but she wouldn’t stop. He filed for divorce she got full custody and he got 2 days every other week with his kids. I fought this case for 4 years. Appealing ruling after ruling which just kept getting denied. The mother of his children had no job, he was paying for their kids both through child support and just because he loved them and wanted them to have a good life. She had a number of drug paraphernalia charges, she started dating a drug dealer who she allowed to move in with her (the kids lived in that same house).
Through the legal system it took me over 4 years for a judge to realize a man with basically no record making over 250K per year, loved his children and would do anything from them offered them a better life than the drug addicted mother with no job who invited her drug dealer to live with her around her kids offered these kids a better life. Really think about it… it took over 1,400 days for the court to recognize “she’s the mother” wasn’t a stronger case for custody over someone who would move heaven on earth for those kids.
Absolutely disgusting.
I want to vomit just thinking about being in his shoes for those 4 years.
Don't get married, ever.
MagnumTriumph I was told this exact same thing as a younger man...I did not listen.
@@CastFromTheHip you done fucked up
I'm married and it's awesome.
@@jeffreyyoungblood7438 Good for you and I wish you all the happiness. However, most every man who I consider a friend who married was divorced and has been psychologically or financially ruined. You are one of the lucky ones. Don't think for a second you won't end up unlucky.
@@Cary94 well thanks, I appreciate it. But luck has nothing to do with it. I prayed a lot and sought to do what was right more than just gratify myself. I got my friends family and wise people I trust involved in the process from the beginning. It made a huge difference. But few are willing in our culture to do this.
And beyond that me and my wife are committed to our faith and to our marriage. Regardless of our feelings, which come and go, we are committed to the institution of marriage. We've had problems and we work them out together. So many people base Love and marriage upon their feelings but this is not what it's about. Frankly you can't trust your feelings. You have to be committed to something bigger than that.
that story about the female cop and the underage boy smh damn aside that being wrong on many levels wouldnt that also be
considered entrapment?
Americans have no legal protection from entrapment, it's essentially legal.
Noah Stevens Yes there is. Matthews vs US 1988 and Jacobson vs US 1992
C_Force that was pre patriot act.
Female cops are fucking crazy. My mom's friend who's a cop started hitting on me a while ago and she was one manipulative cunt. Women think they can get away with everything.
As long as its not the cop that proposes the illegal act i dont think it falls under entrapment, then again its been a year since i was in law class so im not positive
Joe Rogan is a great interviewer. His ability of giving concrete examples to make his point clear is amazing. Discussion on topics like feminism can easily be messed up when people use the same phrase to actually mean different things or people selectively generalize from certain incidences. Also, applauding to Rogan for how he stepped in by saying “I disagree” and gave an example of a divorced mother with a child when the guest oversimplified the argument on sexism in law.
In germany we have something called a "Frauen quote" or in English a "womans quota", which forces a company to have a certain amount of woman in leadership roles, like coo's etc. The law was pushed through like no other law ive seen. But people dont realize that companys will now just put some woman into a leadership role, but she will be ignored, because she isnt here because of her skill set but because shes a woman. I find this law incredibly sexist. And things like this should not be a thing
It's because a lot of companies would never allow for a woman to be in those positions. The women who arrive there, they still have the qualifications. The reason they may be ignored is because of..... Guess! Discrimination against women, which is the reason why these laws exist in the first place!
Women actually cannot win. If we want jobs, we're resented for being like men. If we are dependent, we are resented for being pathetic and dependent. If we have children but work, we are neglectful. If we have children and stay home with them, we're lazy morons. We. Cannot. Win.
Replying to a 2 year old post, but in the US there are tax incentives. So my company the owner put his wife as the company owner while he runs everything for tax benefits.
@@naariznica3133 But that's an overcorrection if you ask me. Yes, fix the discrimination, but not in a way that you just shoehorn women into a position whether or not they're qualified or competent at the work to meet a quota. That just doesn't make any sense. And that has become the problem, probably because companies are too lazy to find the women who would be capable at whatever level of work being filled. The thing is, doing that is bad not just for the company, but for the employees as well. And for the record, men are discriminated against too, only we don't get a national societal movement in place to push us to the top whether we deserve it or not. If we all sat down and actually understood each other and our value, we could make for a very healthy environment for all. But that's just not the case.
@@michlo3393 That’s not how it is in majority of cases though. That’s how a little child sees the world. Just because there is a quota, doesn’t mean the women aren’t fit for the positions. Especially since the roles we are talking about require degrees from the field and previous experience, and, believe it or not, they are on average not any less capable than their male counterparts. There are millions of qualified women seeking jobs in every field, even the ones which are predominantly male populated, and the quota allows them to have a chance to fight for the position, even with the discrimination present in our society. Any company with history and a sense for business will still pick valuable employees no matter the quota, since doing otherwise will harm the company and its profits. I won’t even go into your “men are discriminated too” comment - when it comes to the workforce: not systemically, not historically and not because they’re men, there are other variables at play. You could argue about the law system favouring women when it comes to divorce, but there are reasons for that too. Surely you don’t think that every successful woman got “pushed to the top” undeservingly? That’s sounds like an ironic caricature of a misogynist. If there is such national movement where I can just push a button and become a CEO from my living room, please tell me where to apply. We could have a healthy discourse and “environment” in the future, when you sit down with yourself, stop looking at the world from the lens of your deep-rooted prejudice, and realise you’re not the one who dictates or understands other’s “value”.
Joe "a buddy of mine" Rogan
Toby "I'm so fucked in the head I think the same joke is funny several years later" Milo
Unoriginal joke by Toby Milo.
Toby "next joke its about Chuck Norris being strong" Milo
Guns & Joes - Sweet Buddy Of Mine
If a 25 year old woman went down on me NOW I wouldn't know what to do, much less if I was still 17 or 16.
Monster of Analysis thing is, she was an undercover cop. and he wanted to get with this cute girl that just switched into school. he made it clear he didnt smoke at all but that he would try to find someone to buy some to give to her. look up Justin Laboy Park Vista High School.
Monster of Analysis he was gonna GIVE it to her out of school, but she made him give it to her at school and then accept her money even though he made it clear he didnt want her money. then, by those standards, it was considered selling pot on school grounds which is a felony
@@lycxn7539 I'm well aware, but again, that's just how strong the power of boners is.
Monster of Analysis honestly dude
I suspect you’d come to a decision fairly quickly...
I think both male and the female should pay a price to the court if they get divorced that’s pretty fair
On every single campus in the country, it's always "consent is sober, clear, and affirmative." It's never "don't have sex if you're drunk."
Child support is legit, but let's not assume it's a man's obligation, but rather it's the non custodial parent's obligation, which could also be a woman.
Child support is far from legit. Child support needs to be closely monitored because women are no better than men. Women get tempted by all the same shit. That being said a lot of child support in the world isnt used for the child.
@@ragingmcqueen
My brothers ex had two kids that wound up having autism. She's been getting fat checks from the state for their autism forever. They ate spaghettioes and hotdogs for their three squares while mom got her lots of nice tattoos, backstage passes to her favorite bands and artists, super expensive computer and whatever else she wanted without working a day.. Once the boys started getting older and the threat of losing their checks started looming, she hurried up and got her a new man 👌👍☝️👉🤙✊👊
Great comment!
Men pay 85% of all child support
@@ragingmcqueen - Child support and cheating are 2 completely separate subjects family law doesn't take infidelity in to account in anyone's favor and women pay it too what's done with it is generally not monitored anymore than regular income can or should be monitored the non custodial parent has a responsibility to provide for their children in most cases it's a good thing
If anyone wants to know more about the seventeen year old boy, Lin-Manuel Miranda made a musical about it called 21 Chump Street. His education was ruined because of it.
No Joe. That law is not sexist.
-The guy did the deed, he's paying the price for HIS action.
-He didn't have to marry her.
-He didn't have to agree to have kids and even if it was unplanned (well he should have been a big boy and realized that it's very possible to impregnant a woman even with protection).
-Not to mention, women lose time at work ,once they become mothers, decreasing their take home pay, which means they have trouble economically.
-THS is why ex husbands/partners, are to pay alimony/child support.
-This money is important especially if women work in low end jobs or have not had opportuntiies to advance through education or work experiences.
And You're a pretty crappy human being for encouraging men
to abandon their children, physically and financially....just because they can't be grown ass men and realize they have choices to make. If they don't the responsibility of being a partner or parent, then they should remain single.
“Child support should be mandatory” First heavily reform child support laws to be reasonable and “shared parenting time” needs to be the presumption in custody cases wherever possible aka when no abuse is present and no other limiting factors preventing it. “Her body her choice” then be consistent “his body his choice too” that includes his wallet since his body and mind is what he uses to produce his income.
I find it funny that it takes a male feminist to own up to where feminism has been going wrong.
Innit just ? Another thing males are better at. Feminism.
Cause hes not biased
@@Alekth85 Misogyny is a great way to make sure feminism never dies.
@@margaret6839 good. This world needs something to laugh at.
@@Alekth85 Civil rights are hilarious.
Hmm. Should I sue the University of Newcastle for having me kicked off campus for a false sexual assault claim?
IndicaDreaming yes
IndicaDreaming no. go to floritas and forget it
Yes
IndicaDreaming no. Save your money. After thousands of dollars of litigation, you're likely to wined up where you started but broker and more tired.
Yes.
I think the motivation behind alimony checks is probably mostly profit, not sexism. I'm sure a lot of lawyers make bank working alimony cases.
Very true , as a women who has a career and has always taken pride in being able to sustain my own lifestyle by working hard I think alimony is totally sexist and disgusting. It’s one thing like joe said to pay alimony for a few years to get someone back on their feet if that’s the circumstances but shouldn’t take any one more than 1 or 2 years to completely stand up on their own two feet. Gross.
Only child expenses should be shared
maybe it should be like unemployment: they get it for a few months max as long as they show they're actively looking for jobs
Career women are memes.
You should stop playing man.
@@GGg-sr3ph God loves you.
Pick me
"A chauvinist is a man who hates women as much as women hate each other"
HL Mencken
Im never getting married yo
marry me
Christopher Jones please dont
Dont do it...its a trap man
Just get a prenup
Christopher Jones if you find a great gal then do it, the unfortunate thing is there are so many hucksters and d-bag girls out.there its very hard to distinguise te good from the bad. Us guys have a real disadvantage in that our penises are so powerful when we are young.
The only person you really need to marry is yourself. The whole concept of ‘You are a half of what you are and you need to find the other half(husband/wife) is just absolute bull crap to me
I understand where they are going but both of them are walking the line of victim blaming. It's extremely difficult to come forward as a rape victim and sometimes you do need help not as a woman or a man but as a person.
Not walking the line. They are trampling it
They are completely ignoring the simple fact that most men don't even show up to court to try to get custody of their kids. In cases where men try to get custody, they usually get it. Go look at the stats, they back this up. They just don't show up to court- and you have zero excuse to not show up for your own children. Sorry, but this is just pathetic. The alimony points? Yeah, I don't think you should pay alimony for life. But if your wife gave up her career to raise your kids, she traded her career for yours. You left the relationship benefitting from her sacrifice and she leaves net negative because she stayed with the kids. Yeah, she made that choice, but is it fair for her to get screwed? And child support.... they act like it's some kind of penalty towards the man. Sorry, they are your kids. You have a financial obligation to take care of them. Are there women who scam this system? Sure. But fix what is unfair rather than screwing over vulnerable people.
We have an epidemic of single motherhood just as much as we have an epidemic of absentee fathers. Blame lies with both parties. People need to grow TF up and stop having babies until they are in committed relationships where they can afford (both mentally and financially) to raise children. Children deserve better than these weak men and weak women.
4:50 'forget how they treat men'
Spoken like a true feminist.
Yup, this guy is a complete tool..everything he said was defending women in some strange ass way...Somehow he claims its still the Patriarchy's fault that men fuck over men .when in reality its guys like this tool that the women use to make and enforce these laws....god i wish people like this guy would just disappear
You're taking that part out of context.
K.
He still sounds like a fuckwit with context
CartRich LLC He’s being completely reasonable... It’s sexist to both men and woman, how is that so hard to understand? They treat women as tho they can’t take care of themselves, and they force men to take care of them (ie. paying alimony). It’s really easy to understand, I don’t know how it flew right over your head lmao.
im a single dad ive never seen child support nor do i care but we are both involved at this point and being involved is more important then money
Well yeah now when it's all about taking off your clothes to be empowered and shit
Are people gonna act like back in them cheating wasn’t a thing ??
It’s just getting exposed now!!
JR- how dare you, leave sir 😂😂😂
This guy is turning sexism on men into sexism against women.
Samuel Esparzaz his point is that it's both. He is pointing out to these new feminists how destructive and patriarchal their beliefs actually are-- even towards the ones they are trying to "save."
America is surely a lady's first country. I also wonder how those laws were made in favour of women, thanks for the answer. The men in power are expected to be feminists. If they aren't, then they are jerks!
The left and right both support gynocentrism...
Alimony is slavery.
@@helenahedgetrimming1818 The West is a gynocentric society. Even the most staunch supporters of the nuclear family, who viewed women as property, also viewed those same women as shiny trophies to display.
In the words of Daniel Tosh, "you don't support your own ladies, that's on you."
“Forget about the men” And he said it’s sexist towards women...
He's not wrong it is sexist it's essentially saying females are babies and need to be cared for they shouldn't be they're capable
"Women are daughters and our sons are men" Great comment to imply today's legal treatment of men and women.
Modern feminist is misandrism.
Lalo Spencer exactly
It's an unproven conspiracy theory, basically. The only difference between patriarchy and illuminati is we're allowed to make fun of those "new world order/illuminati" people.
castrateallmen Even less wrong with hating all women.
castrateallmen then what if i answer : nothing wrong with considering women as dick holsters. We can escalate all day like that and nothing good will come out of it
Very true, there are some shitty men out here (along with women) but sweeping generalizations of men by feminist is ruining society. Not all men are misusing their power, have privilege, undervalue women, and are sexual predators and deviants. Personally I believe women are the architects of society and when we set the standard men will follow suit.
“Why are all these men allowing this” says it all
Two dudes talking about feminism lol
This is why I make sure I make enough money to take care of myself and if I ever get preggo I can move the f off on with my kid w/ no issues. I don’t want to even think about wasting my time with courts, alimony, even child support f all that, I’m a strong independent woman. 🤷🏻♀️
Yes you are but your child is not a strong independent woman. Children need fathers
@@inertia_oudrey7006 Not necessarily, I grew up without a dad and lost my mother as a child and turned out just fine, I have a great career and life.
@Muhamad Fiqri no foster parents, my 17yr old sister basically raised me
@Muhamad Fiqri thank you!! 😊
@@NormaLilia24 well then you're an acception because it's really a fact that children who come from single parents are more likely to become criminals look it up
he got dragged through the meat grinder of feminism and considers himself a feminist calling the people who did it patriarchal people who are sexist against women. I wonder if this man has ever had his ideas of feminism challenged.
This guy said he was a feminist because he believes women should be held to the same standard as men. Do you not agree with that?
he also said that young women need protection from men by men... and thats sexism😐
hayfizzle I hate to burst your bubble, but sometimes they do. Men are stronger and better at fighting. Also, women get raped. Women can’t always handle themselves in physical situations like that.
Lebron Fitzgerald sorry to burst your bubble but i was high as fuck when i wrote that comment and 1. it doesn’t make any fucking sense 2. it was a joke😐
hayfizzle great joke. Hilarious
New drinking game. Every time this dude uses any form of the word “patriarch”, you drink.
Beer recommended. Shots could result in alcohol poisoning.
When will Joe have Camille Paglia on? I'd pay to see that
The "womens" movement did not bring value to female roles/traits, it just made it " ok " for women to act like men. If it was an "equal " rights, then men would be honored for being nurses, teachers etc. that have been held by women and not have to struggle with finances etc.
"I just explained to you. It's sexism, it's patriarchy." - oh God.
I would trade feminism for equal pay for equal work and opportunities, the elimination of violence against women (especially by their partners), autonomy over our own bodies, the elimination of sexual harassment in all its forms, and never again having to sit through mansplaining about what feminism is.
This is the reason I won’t ever get married when I’m older
here is a hint when female judges take over your case cancel the divorce
So he says feminist is sexist, then says he's a feminist and Not an egalitarian? hmm.
*3rd wave feminism
ya dolt
I said his to feminist yesterday
I go to trial next week
Should’ve said “hers”
TheUrbanSoldier luigi got big tiddies
Can anybody explain me how that thing of the man having to pay his ex wife with no kids after 15 years works? I never heard about that.
Alimony. The idea is that the woman gave up working to be a wife and therefore did not advance in career or education while the husband did.
It really only makes sense 50 years ago when wives were expected to be homemakers exclusively.
@@jimbo9305 sounds like a prenup is a good idea
@@IWANTHOTDOG No, a prenup is worthless!
Telling women they're victims is demeaning, telling men they're the source of all wrong in the world, is destructive.
Feminism is hyperconcerned with the reach of language, they claim saying "fireman" instead of "firefighter" discourages girls and women from aspiring to be a firefighter, but naming the force of all evil in the world after men, and the force for justice after women, has no reach?
yes! this video needs to be shared! it's up to the woman to take care of herself, and they need to learn how to protect themselves! it's not misogynist to tell women they need to be vigilant and be taught how to protect themselves. trying to force only men to go to these mandatory classes in some colleges on "how not to rape" IS SEXIST TOWARDS MEN and is fucking ridiculous. a rapist is going to rape, no matter shaft he was taught in some dumb class. if men have to take those classes, then it should be fair to make it mandatory for women to take self defense classes.
I'm surprised women like you have watched this video. Not a whole lot of females comment about this stuff that's sexist too men.
Isaac Looper I'm ashamed of how my gender is representing itself. I've seen firsthand how women manipulate men and the system to take advantage on both ends. what feminism has become disgusts me. I completely understand why men don't want to get married anymore because there are no benefits for him. if (when) he gets divorced the court systems put in place will eat him alive by taking away his custody rights, child support, possibly alimony, and it takes YEARS to get these things settled, because for some reason divorced women are like pit bulls out for blood, and those vengeful bitches will do whatever they can to make his life HELL while she's living it up with a new man. meanwhile, these poor guys souls have been sucked out ,and they're just a shell of their former selves. it's embarrassing that women act in such ways now. I'm not saying all, but a good enough portion do. women already have life easier than men. there is no need for feminism to exist in the western cultures anymore.
where did you get this information
Stefanie Anguiano Yes! Agreed, men naturally will rape. It's the females responsibility to protect themselves. If women just go to a party in a skirt, with no mace and talk to a male, they're basically asking to be raped. Stop blaming men for rape!
Stefanie Anguiano i would marry a women like u in a hearr beat,seems like all women are gold diggers looking marriage
" a baffled bag of hormones" 😂😂😂
Feminism is ALL about equality...
Until a matress needs carrying up 2 flights of stairs.
MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW, MGTOW.
I turned 17 9 days ago, thanks for making me feel really confident joe.