The Hero Too Difficult For Professional Players
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The lost meepo is the meepo that was left AFK in base to the point that he was forgotten about, then went on his own journey
He is also probably the extra meepo you get via talent.
.... I'm quite guilty about using my scepter Meepo as an escape point~
@@DianaProudmoore aren't we all 🤣
@@CaptainAdmiralMango Meepo Express -Tower breaker Edition(my usual build)~
Travel,Vladmir's,Cuirass,Radiance,Bloodstone,Aghanim's~
Ever since I started playing back in AllStars, Meepo was always one of those heroes that when you saw someone pick you knew you were either in for the easiest or the hardest game of your life. It was always a noob who didn’t know, or a Meepo main who had thousands of hours of nothing but split farming on Meepo
I was a Meepo main on AS, its fairly straightforward if you're used to handling micro like on autopilot.
I'd decimate solo-queue lobbies but it gets very tricky when the entire opposing side is a coordinated team (and you're teamed with feeder clowns), your "numbers" advantage turns into a disadvantage real quick.
This is very misleading/wrong. If someone plays mostly or only Meepo it means that they will be calibrated for that performance that they always get for that hero, meaning they will _not_ have abnormally good performance. They might still do really well, but that would count on how well they do in the early game and how well the opponent does and if there are counters on the opposing team.
When an experienced Meepo picker picks Meepo, allies force him to the off lane, opponents counterpick with something like ET/ES (or Meepo picks into it, even), there's no reason to expect that experienced player to do well, and more-so should even expect them to do poorly.
What are you doing outside of NL's channel, @int3r4ct? Jkjk
@@MsHojat wtf are you talking about? Literally everything you said is wrong: There was no calibration in Dota allstars, allies don't force meepo into the offlane, you can't counter pick the last hero picked in the draft which is why meepo got banned so often.
I was the guy that would -random for extra gold, land meepo and oh no.
once i tried to play meepo, to do that, i started playing Starcraft to improve my micro lol
Yeah meepo is like "i wanna play warcraft 3 but i also wanna play dota as well"
Red alert 3 online would make meepo a walk in the park
Me was the opposite i started playing starcraft (broodwar) before playing dota and it was hard to play with only a single unit meepo was my go to hero back in dota(old) and even now on dota2 i can still say my main hero is meepo although i have more heroes in my belt now that i can use properly
I was literally thinking while watching this that starcraft would be a good practice to play meepo lol
That’s how abed mastered meepo
Due to the sheer nature of Meepo, it's quite literally impossible for any human to play him at his max potential
the same could be said for any hero, human reaction times can never match the Dota 2 framerate.
@@sevenpolar3483not really, and even if you are right, it's nowhere near true to the same extent as the above statement. When you play meepo, you play up to five heroes instead of one so it's up to five times as hard. In a game such as dota 2 which is very complex and hard to play as one hero, even "easy" heroes such as huskar or pa or lc, imagine if you could watch 5 different parts of the map at the same time and play each hero at the same time perfectly, it's just impossible even if u played dota for everyday for 80 years for 15 hours a day, no human can do that while you can master heroes such as sniper way easier and use their full potential. To your point, even then, you will probably always make small mistakes with positioning or miss last hits or something like that but still it is humanly possible to master other heroes where it will never be possible to fully use meepo's potential unless he gets reworked.
@@MDZ20667I dabble in a little bit of meepo too, and the things you said, that is what keeps me up at night man...
😁😁@@saosombachang4480
@@MDZ20667 the only way I would see it possible is if you had hotkeys bound to each meepo so you can quick swap between each within milliseconds. From there, its just picture reference and what you can analyze at each given moment. Master chess players can play multiple games of chess at the same time and magnus carlsen did it blind folded lol
When someone in my team picks meepo: we lost
When someone in enemy team picks meepo: we lost
Finally, justice for Meepo. People will never not have strong opinions about the hero as if they know what they’re talking about and that it’s some absolute fact that he’s always garbage tier for some reason. Meepo is a beast, and definitely the most unique hero in the game, with very unique results. You can’t call a hero bad when the entire pro scene is absolutely mortified to face him to the point they obsessively ban him almost every game a Meepo main shows ip
For most of DOTA's history Meepo had a really bad win rate that hovered between like 41 and 49%. It only actually went up above 50% maybe the better half of a decade after DOTA 2 first went publicly playable. But in more recent years there have been a couple periods where Meepo has had high win rates too.
Certainly pro level can be slightly different though. It really matters a lot if they can get the right draft and opponent draft for Meepo to work. That, plus someone who can play the hero at an abnormally-high level (which skews the balance outside of gameplay win rate stats)
Although on the topic of skill ceiling, for a long time Meepo had a very high skill ceiling. I'd argue for a long time now that ceiling has been somewhat lowered though, due to clones no longer gaining much exp from kills, nor gaining much exp around allies, reducing need to keep the Meepos split to multiple areas as often. I suppose the addition of Dig and MegaMeepo helped return the skill level back a bit though.
@@MsHojat Meepo will always have a bad winrate though, because most people playing him won’t be good enough. For most heroes, their winrate is a good indicator of their balance. But for Meepo, it’s been shown that even when he has low win rates he is capable of being extremely impactful when in the right hands. If a characters bad, there’s a limit to how good you are with them will carry you in a game. What Meepo has shown for a while is that in capable hands he is entirely capable of being a very strong hero; he just requires a specialist in a game that discourages being a specialist at the highest levels. His winrate even in the pro scene is hard to know his strength from exactly, because when someone gets good with Meepo he terrorizes the scene so much Meepo gets banned almost every game anyways and won’t be banned in situations they think they can win, which skews with his true winrate numbers alot.
No matter the win ratez the TI audience will never not scream at the top of their lungs in excitement when meepo is drafted.
@MsHojat dude the new aghs makes the hero braindead
Abed's Meepo back in TI 2016 Wild Card was perfect. That's one of the reasons why he was drafted by NA teams.
Then proceeded to get bulba only drafting him storm spirit every game even when it was bad games for it
I know him personally through friends we were in a discord call he said that he can't play meepo anymore in the current meta of dota where everyone is as good as him. It takes so much effort to play and mentally exhausting that's why he hasn't played it in years.
@@NoobMicesters lol
To expand the tangent, (in reality its most likely the devs just forgot) but in an lore reason could be, he was originally (when he broke the crystal) he was all of them simultaneously. However over time each individual soul developed their own independent personalities and over time became their own selves.
I quite like the idea of having a universe where soul fragments slowly develop into their own beings. Even if there is a clear resemblance between the original and one of the clones, a clone could be very different from another clone.
What's the smallest size where a soul fragment would still be able to take control of a full body? Would a smaller fragment still be able to take control of a small body, even if not a full one? Is it possible to clone a clone? Is there a sort of resistance that the body has to its new soul? (analogous to how a body's immune system might attack an implanted organ)
@@vez3834 You're describing exactly the sorts of questions that people with dissociative identity disorder have to navigate every day 😅
@@HerrrHosen I'm glad the questions make sense to some people at least :D
@@HerrrHosenYeah all 1 of them, and the 9 other ones who pretend to for attention.
Antipsychotics fix that, a father figure fixes the ones that pretend to have it.
@@CunnyMuncher I have DID,, for the usual reason: severe childhood abuse, committed by my father. It interferes with my daily functioning in profound ways, but if there is a silver lining, it is the ability to inspect and deeply understand the functioning of my own mind.
I have a question for your consideration. Why does the existence of people like me, and heroes like Meepo, appear threatening to you?
Surprised you didnt mention Dragon Lance once, that was a complete breakthrough in meepo tech
Yea that was the meta where you can actually pick meepo with 3rd pick and still out power spike counters with how efficient the build with stats was
That was stupid and the reason we can't have good stat items is outlier shit like this
Also Rod of Atos. People called me stupid or a noob for using it for such a long time then suddenly top pros start using it, goes into the standard build, and it gets nerfed. And it's not like the item takes skill to use either. In fact if anything it seems best for worse players since they don't need to hit their net as often.
But even for Dragon Lance I found it hilarious that people would badmouth me for taking Dragon Lance even _YEARS AFTER_ the item came out. And this was at like Legend level, so it's not like these are even terrible players.
@@MsHojat you are a legend!
Was looking for this comment.
Just watching this as a LoL player. I played a little DOTA back in 2014-15, but I never experienced Meepo.
This Hero seems totally insane. The sheer potential of being in control of this many copies of the same Hero at the same time is immense.
The complexity and skill ceiling is far beyond my tiny little brain. Huge respect to all the Meepo mains out there
Great hero. There are some draw-backs though. He has a lot of counters, for example earth shaker, a hero that does extra damage with his ultimate the more enemies are around him, and has 2 big aoe stuns. He can't use spell shield on clones(black king bar) meaning retreat is sometimes impossible if the opposing team has any kind of lockdown. Any aoe slows and stuns are devastating for him.
I remember when I was a little kid, playing DotA in Warcraft 3 is my only game I can play with my friends, and I mained Meepo, Using TAB and UNIT CONTROL using 1 to 4 Button are fucking confusing at first but I manage to master it and I always dominate every single game. Garena, man, I feel so old when I remember those. I kinda miss it.
Garena Era is the best era for me, NO MMR, NO BAN, JUST TRASHTALK AHAHAHAHAHAHA. If someone left the game, the game still go on, no one never give up. Sometimes you will feel fucking devastated if you see your fucking Fountain destroyed by enemies 😂😂 and Spawn kills you over and over again 😂😂😂.
When the Dota2 comes out, everything has changed. DotA players quit and play other game such as LoL and HON.
the worse thing about him is that he is not a bad hero even without the 1k hrs
Definitely has a high skill ceiling, but I think it's silly how complex folks pretend he is.
Rather, there are not many people who have learned or are aware of some very simple methods for controlling more than one unit.
The sort of skills that are present in RTS games, but not generally necessary in MOBAs.
Its the infinite layers of bag of tricks. Then after the tricks. Meepo mops you with practically infinite bind
That lore tangent made me laugh by the end. So much research went into this one thing which I know a lot of people don’t care about, but it really is important to be clear with how you refer to a character, and it’s fun to see how you dug into it way too much.
Baumi bought shard and didn't want to waste it
I was like: no way he wasted so much time on such a usless topic XD.
I still call puck her altho her pronouns is IT. Like my man, they are video game characters who tf cares.
Gonna give him respect for dedication, tho.
yeah it was so annoying and redundant
I loved the tangent. The pronouns a character use to describe themselves is important for their identity, if you care about lore and stuff, and it leads to such interesting diversions.
@pitofomen they didn't choose this pronoun, tho. Cause they aren't real. Valve gave it to them.
Adding on to the tangent I think that Meepo is one being but all of his clones had different experiences so they developed slightly different personalities over time. Now they do all level up at the same time so that could dispute this but I'm not exactly sure how the lore explains levels. It could be possible that they all share the same psychological Id, but have separate ego's and superego's which would give them a shared unconscious connection and would also explain how they can poof to each other but I don't think anyone at valve got that deep into the lore of how he's supposed to exist. As for the lost meepo it looks like he's alot older so maybe that's just one of his family members idk.
It's like a physical embodiment of a split personality disorder. Instead of one meepo personality at a time being in charge of the shared body they manifest as duplicates.
I think you're right. I think Meepos are like a bunch of copies of the same person with different experiences, but a psychic connection which means they share a lot of their knowledge and etc.
I think the lost meepo somehow lost his connection to the greater meepo, which made him age rapidly and suffer from various health effects.
Noospheric Meepomind
Alrighty gonna throw my weeb hat into the ring, I see Meepo and his clones a bit like Naruto and his shadow clones. All duplicates of the same person AT THE TIME OF CASTING but can be influenced by personal experiences. Say for example you took someone exercising and made a perfect clone in the middle of it. One of them keeps working out day after day while the other decides to stop and just laze about. One gets fit and the other gets fat. But they're both the same. I guess in a sense Meepo is literally a parallel universe gathering of different hims
it's like twins, triplets, or quadruplets who grew up separately.
It would be cool if you gave a little 1 minute backstory of the hero as they were in warcraft 3/dota 1. Great video as always :)
same. I dont play dota anymore and i barely played dota 2 i only follow these videos more for hero lore and development
Lvl 25 talent should add another meepo,and the aghanims shard gives also another meepo
Yes, more hot keys! More more more!!!
That would probably scale way too fast tpo suddenly and itd bend over thr enemy team way too fasr
1400 gold for another clone yikes how about no thanks
well thats how the old ags used to be lol
And the Aghs upgrade gives… another Meepo
My man, these videos are the definition of above and beyond. I now know more about Meepo's self-identity and lore than anyone working at Valve haha. Keep up the great work!
Considering Valve wrote his history post-DotA All Stars, what a shit take.
@@namagem0main meepo is voldemort, clones are horcruxes
THANK YOU SO MUCH . I FINISH 1HR OF THIS VIDEO WITHOUT EVEN GETTING BORED. MEEPO IS MY FAVORITE HERO. I REACHED IMMORTAL BECAUSE OF HIM.
Oh my god I didnt realize it was Baumi until like halfway through. Dude I used to watch you ALL THE TIME when i was like 13... I'm 22 now. Pimp my Peon, that clash free for all custom game I think you made, I remember when you first got into angel arenas like allstars and blackstar and decided to make your own and it legitimately became my all time favorite custom game and I actually enjoyed it more than normal Dota, it was a fascinating take on competitive Team Deathmatch Moba game that still incorporates the farming aspect at the core of the Moba genre. God i love OAA. O MY GOD and when you first met your wife, when she first started appearing in videos and custom games. The crew that i VERY SADLY can't quite remember their names, but i used to love them as a kid. DOTA IMBA. That boat game on the old client.Working on that one space game as a game designer, going back to UNI. Its crazy because I'm doing all those things now, not game designing im trying to become a scientist but still. You were such a pivotal part of my childhood and my love for Dota as a whole. I used to dream that someday id be able to donate a million dollars to repay back all the good times i had watching your videos and interacting with the MNI community. haha not there yet... but maybe some day. Anyways, good vibes man, glad to see your still going strong.
Sincerely - A pretty big Fan
Same dude, the baumi jumpscare is too funny
I have been playing meepo for 2 years now, not very good tbh but playing meepo just feels amazing, lost a LOT of games before a decent one, now is one of my best heros, almost not losing with it now, totally worth it.
nice nice, what is your mmr may i ask? Just curious xD
I had the same experience. Playing well on meepo just makes you dumpster the entire enemy team. feels so good
@@BreadAccountantmeepo the perfect hero to play the game yourself😂
Opposite of mine i stop playing him for 2 years now since the nerf hes not viable in anyway in current meta. If they decided to ever buff him back im definitly picking him back up
i wish notail as a carry with meepo could’ve been mentioned more. I know he didn’t use meepo at the Ti and these videos are Ti centric but still, a classic in my opinion.
Holy shit NoTail meepo is the shit. But didn't during that time Meepo is sort of like a signature hero for w33?
@@gungrave10 Yeah kind of, for the player w33 meepo was signature but when notail brought it out- man, it was something else
Great Video Baumi, ur Stories of Dota Videos are trully getting better by the minute.
Sing Sing was such a beast player, shame he didn`t have the right conditions to win a Major tournament, he deserved it.
I've never played dotage, but enjoy watching it and have played other mobas, and the production quality on this channel always makes the videos worth a watch even if I've never heard about the character before.
I played meepo one time cuz I thot it was the banning stage(I do NOT play micro hero’s). Needless to say I went 0 20 and even tho I hate him I respect anyone who can play them even slightly competently
Meepo is such a Hero that can be played by 4 man at same time 😂👀
Im a League player but this one was very interesting to watch. Seeing what one of the most difficult heroes in Dota looks like, although I could understand half of the things you were saying I really enjoyed watching the history of Meepo. Great video.
LoL hardest champs: fiora, ezreal, yasuo, katarina...
Dota 2 hardest champ: you play as 5 players gl bro xd
@@vukvla2046all of leagues hardest champs are usually ones where you have to micromanage certain things similar to meepo clones (azir soldiers, aphelios guns, gp barrels)
@kang1983 Crazy how League's hardest champs are both broken S tiers on average and are extremely easy to master at a "fundamental" level. No way GP is even a tenth as difficult as Meepo, especially when his skillcap is...placing barrel chains. Or Aphelios, who has to micromanage guns...but has the best autos in the game bar none. Sure you can learn cool tech like GP's "ghost barrels", but that still will never be as difficult to perform as the average of Dota's hardest.
@@ultimaabyssal2484i didnt say they were harder than meepo
Amazed by the love and passion you show for the content you create man. Thank you for this awesome video!
When you went off on the singular vs plural Meepo thing I could feel my brain slowly splitting into 5 Meepo
As always a fantastic indepth anlysis, videos will be slow but I know I will watch every single one!
Meepo's 35% magic resistance was also innate since 6.78 (he was the only one who had a different base magic res, whereas every other hero had 25%), wherein it was normalized to 25% in patch 7.07c. The magic res was later readded into Divided We Stand in 7.31.
Man, I really love this hero. Playing him is so unique and so much fun. I really think the new, bigger map suits him really well and his recent patches have been really good as well. I feel like pros have maybe forgotten how crazy this hero can be.
Astounding work, great analysis. I'm really looking forward to watching an episode about Invoker.
As someone who has just played a lot of HotS and League, I always enjoy hearing about Dota. Meepo is like the Lost Vikings but even more skill intensive somehow, super neat!!
Listen. If Christianity gets to say 'we only have one god, but that god is three people simultaneously that are not just the same person' and be taken seriously, then fuck it, Meepo can do it too.
There is only one Meepo, but that Meepo is in five bodies, and those bodies are also, on their own, also Meepo.
I havent played dota for years but this video was great! i love it when someone has passion for something and can make a great video like this with an underused hero and talk about it for 1 hour
Meepo is only difficult because Valve refuses to implement mist basic and findamental RTS/RTT mechanics like formation movement. In D1 he is incredibly easy.
formation movement like patrol in sc2?
Keep telling yourself that lol
@@goaway7904 Patrol order always was in Dota2. OP talks about feature in WC3 that forces a group of units to keep their current formation, the main usage for Meepo is to have them in the same order for chain-casting.
@@chupasaurus yeah i know patrol is in dota but in sc2 if u make units patrol they stay the same distant apart from eachother as they move
@@goaway7904 I know about magicboxing too, but it's specific to SC2 because devs wanted to avoid mutastacks, it isn't there in any other Westwood-style RTS I could think of.
i fully beleive after 3watching all your videos so far, that a story on batriders competive history could be very interesting!! seeing all his ups and downs and how he is either sort after or ignored
Poof - Most likely includes the pronoun "itself" due to Ability Draft games where anyone could end up with this ability. It would suck to have it and there are no other Meepos to teleport to.
maybe that's the reason why they allowed you to poof to illusions? So this ability wouldn't be a complete waste of a slot?
No poof got travel distance in ability draft, its like 2500 distance if i remember correctly, it's not same as meepo's poof
The spell's description was written years before AD existed.
There was a period of time where Meepo was in AD, but I'm pretty sure he was removed from it rather quickly because it's OP.
finally, a good dota 2 content creator
Ive been waiting for this exact one
The biggest problem of Meepo is dota 2's integral delay on commands. It was so much easier controlling Meepo in dota allstars
These videos are such high quality, I really appreciate them even though I don't play and don't intend to play dota. They're just so well made
Been watching a few and I knew immediately this was Baumi, good stuff dude!
I haven't mained meepo in years ever since my old mmo mouse broke but back in the day he was fun af, I even managed a +60% wr with him
Great video, glad I found your channel!
Just found this channel...im so happy. DOTA lore is awesome. Looking forward to a video on Visage.
Hi this is the second video i watched of u first one was about Pudge. I don't play Dota used to play LoL but your videos are really good, like insanely good. Love your pacing of the video. Huge props take my like and subscription and have a good one dude.
Perfect story and tangent even and all in just an hour, keep it up.
The story of Chen or visage?
There was a guy yesterday who picked Meepo in ranked, told us to trust him and that he would carry. He fed the most and we lost lmao
Games are never guaranteed. Everyone has bad games occasionally.
This sort of thing happens with any hero.
I love these videos! Thank you for your effort!
Thanks for making these videos. I love them all!
Nice video again. I am waiting for a video from Rubick.
Man that background music at 3:00 remembers me so much about morgan freemans narrating in the shawshank redemption; "I remember it as if it was yesterday; when i saw meepo for the first time he immediately struck my eye. When he came out that bus i could tell: That man was actually four guys."
Fantastic video, great job with it!
Dota 2 lore with a relaxing voice? this was a great find
the coolest part of this video is when you mentioned liking the video, the like bar flashed with cool colours, didn't know that was a thing
14:00 Baumi, you are watching too much medical dramas...
Seriously, I never expected that tangent to be so entertaining! Not that the rest of the video wasn't, but I almost felt like I was watching a Dota hero inside an episode of House, and it was quite interesting.
Looking forward to Phantom Assassin video!
I think a good analogue for Meepo's personality is Jamie "Multiple Man" Madrox from the X-Men/X-Factor. He is able to create clones of himself with physical impact. Those clones are mainly autonomous, but each are a different part of his main personality and able to develop on their own after they are separated.
Usually the short timeframe between splitting and resorbing the clones means that they have the same goals as Madrox Prime and aren't opposed to being absorbed again, but sometimes there are personalities emerging with no regard for human life, or who just want to see the world burn.
Meepo sounds like he is a bit of the same way. They have the same attributes and skills, but embody different parts of the original Meepo's personality. As time went on their original split personalities developed into different unique personalities who also improved some skills.
With Madrox, he sent some clones off to study different fields and learn different experiences, since he also absorbs all the memories they made. There is a recurring version of Jamie who became a priest with his own family.
I've been playing LoL since season 2, only tried to play DotA for like a day and a half before I gave up, and I just discovered and binge watched every single video you have. I'm telling you now, I will watch every one of these you make, I know next to nothing about DotA but I was able to perfectly follow along with everything you said (not so much what you showed, teamfights are still confusing for me to keep track of but that's my fault).
I hope Dragon Knight gets one of these, he was the one I was gonna try to main if I'd kept playing.
dk piss easy bro get a blink for fighting or midas for farming take towers with your ult and use breathe fire to cs+harass, blink stun into fights ongoing with dk ult up and ull be playing the hero, also use his 2nd level ult to clear huge stacks.
and if u playing carry dk go mjol ac or something
Been waiting on this episode!!!
Great Video! FYI @ 8:23 you might want to blackout that guys name haha
Thank you so much for the time and effort. I always love meepo.
problem with meepo is he is pretty easily countered and pros know how to play against it and communicate which meepo to target... in pubs right now meepo is a monster though
in my 17 years of playing dota i played less than 10 games of meepo and this video encouraged me to play meepo.
Lmao same here... Been on dota 1 since 2002 and dota 2 since september 2013 and I used to play meepo on dota 1 yet I have only 1 game with him on dota 2
As a meepo player, I would highly recommend playing a LOT of bot games getting the feel for him.
I played roughly 50 bot matches before taking him into the main game and it still took roughly 20 games to play him competently at divine rank.
I was already a micro player before learning.
i think the meepo clones have some type of individuality but not because they're seperate beings but because the soul pieces aren't identical. i'm kind of imagining like of those cartoon clone type episodes were some guy makes a clone of themself but it's imperfect and only captures one part of their personality, so you can have the clone who loves eating or smt and then you can have the evil clone that has all the worst aspects of that person. so imagine that however rather than creating a new person, the personality of a single complex individual is instead compartmentalized and seperated while still being the same single person. divided yet united.
a better example would be to just imagine harry from disco elysium. all his skills and perspectives have seperated and can talk to each other but they're all still him.
I think this was my favourite tangent yet. I'm pretty sure I would watch any in depth research he cares to do.
i remember that voice its baumi! nice to see your still making dota vids
Oh shit i used to watch a shit ton of Baumi wids when i was younger, dota always fascinated me this content is perfect now ngl, keep it up man. I'll binge
Great video Baumi!
One time I was in a pub with my mates, I was new to dota at the time and I played Huskar a lot cuz of the op magic res. Anyway my friends were playing dota for years by then and one of them said that he’s actually made good progress learning meepo, gotten better with keybinds and all that. I, unknowing wtf a meepo even was all I knew was Huskar, says that yeah man I’m getting pretty fucken good with Huskar too. The looks I got from them were amusing
Never played dota in my life, idk how I got recommended this video but it is amazing.
You got to do Rubick next!!! Epic video man, been following from your first video and every time a new one drops, everything else takes the backstage!
We had a local meepo player in our neighborhood years ago, now he is married and I don't know if he still plays, but years ago, when he played meepo, the game was good as won.
Never played dota 2 but this is actually really cool character design ultimate skill ceiling
You should also have more subs :(
Meepo is my favorite character in dota 2. Theres nothing like 5 cave gremlins beating the life out of some poor guy with little shovels
Man this takes me back. I was ranked 3 Meepo for a time just out of beta. I would wake up practice from 5 - 7 then go to school then practice 2-2...
i remember meepo when it was first released in dota1.. such a cool character and i was really hooked on it..good times.
I enjoyed the video, thanks for the upload.
great video!
algo brought me here and damn this vid brings back memories for his mid 30s guy.
i grew up playing wc2, c&c, aoe, etc and was around to play the 1.x versions of dota.
me and a few buddies coulda gone pro (at the time, 16.x-ish) 'cuz we had actual rts experience and were rolling the moba-only players with meepo, chen, og silencer with the internals, druid with bear build, etc. but pro gaming wasn't anywhere near where it was today.
we made bank doing wagers in the gaming cafes in city, then our province. then life happened.
There is a tabletop RPG called "Ultraviolet Grasslands" which has entities known as Porcelain Princes, and Meepo could very well be one of those :)
Outstanding video!
Great video!
can’t wait to see an Invoker video
Lol, here I am listening to a random Dota story as a background, thinking the voice is vaguely familiar when suddenly... Hey, is that Baumi? :D I used to watch you for so many hours way back in the day :D That's a surprise.
adding to the tangent - on the Artefact card for Divided we Stand, you missed the fact that at the bottom Meepo mentions "if you can't count on yourselves - who can you count on?". This implies it's the same rules as the DoTA 2 description, where it's just the same 1 person split into copies. The I and We is written from the perspective of Meepo 1 or the main Meepo talking about his copies, rather than different Meepo's.
I love dota as an idea but never got into it. This kind of content is much appreciated for someone clueless like me
the meepo farm steal is unreal. the first time i played against meepo, i was conveniently es. we were down 1 t4 and i hit the nastiest 4 man echo slam ever, enough to buy myself a referesher to instakill meepo again when he bought back, and apparently that's all we needed to do to win the game.
despite the meepo being level 20 when the rest of my team were around 12- 14, the other team were only 1, 2 levels higher. they had 1 or 2 items. the only one i didn't get in my echo slam was their safelaner, who couldn't defend their base against us. i found out in the postgame chat that the meepo took all the camps and stacks, which left the safelaner with no farm. on the other hand, the gold from the meepo pwn was pretty much an item for each of us, and like 2 levels.
last year i queued into a meepo game where the same problem happened. another reason to not pick meepo
Just for you to know, Baumi, I always forget to THUMBS UP, then do it when u remind me... so keep it going! Good Job!
Meepo can be he or they because they were all one and semi autonomous so it's more like a centralized hivemind on the prime, sorta like drones linked up to a computer. But those drones used to be a bigger computer together. Imagine if you had 2 bodies but your physical 2 brains react differently as they would being in 2 different positions and factors leading up to it to where it's more like you reacting in a slightly different timeline but at the end of the day you are very much the same and can connect perfectly due to it, 2 bodies one shared concious.
I always liked characters like this, it's like one brain on multiple bodies, a general feeling before you get entirely to the physical, i always called it a mutual hivemind. In this case literal soul splitting where when together they are always wanting and working for the same thing and usually has similar movements if coordinated enough so it's like my mutual hivemind thought but with more autonomy in the bodies themselves which would lead to the lost meepo sorta making sense and maybe unconnecting from the rest due to distance/time.
Meepo is a hero that forces player to think as multiple individuals like meepos themself
I think meepo its a hive mind but he doesnt know, so he thinks the other meppos are "other meppos".
My fav hero!!!! I was wondering how long it would take for you to get round to him. He doesn’t show up often sadly.
Earth Spirit not that hard to play compared to the other 4
based on how there are different versions of aghanims, there might be (definitely are) multiple universes, which means there is one where universe where meepo didn't shatter his soul, went on journeys by himself as a vagabond, drifting from place to place, "lost".
there's your lost meepo explanation
Meepo is mentally exhausting now unlike before. He's great but every time I play a game or 2, I quit and rest, this mental stress is probably one of the reason why he's not seen in competitive recently since they have to play tons of matches in a day.
it is one of the reason. In TI9 True Sight Insight, w33 said he doesn't play a lot of Meepo competitively because of the mental toll it takes to play Meepo at such a high level.
Why more exhausting now?
@@AngrocSound well previously you can just buy aghs have 3 meepo and go to early skirmishes, you also level up faster than ur enemies so you can really stomp early in the game.
Now meepo is on the same playing ground as the enemy and most heroes kits has aoe now, so you have to look out for tons of factors to micromanage add to it dota's macromanage nature. So you'll really be tired when having many things to micro and macro.
I remember eons ago I can just look at meepo's lvl and the enemy's lvl and I can unga-bunga with blink coz I am way ahead with levels and items.
I personally think meepo is the hardest hero in all of Dota. You need to micromanage all of the meepos and have to keep ALL of them.
i watched one video of league vs dota and now i get all these recommendations
at 8:19 theres no way he didnt see that dudes name
I havent played dota 2 since 2020 but watching these make me wanna go play dota again
45:08 you said “holded meepo back” im very disappointed baumi it’s held and not holded, holded is not even a word
meepos don't have to all die when one of them dies during a match, they just do so out of respect, that's why the lost one is still around