That interview felt like when you’re replaying a video game to choose all of the worst possible dialogue options to see what the difference of the outcome would’ve been 💀
lmao true. When she said "be real with me, do you really think it's a good idea to go into a job interview and reference porn?" I was stunned at how long it took him to answer, like he genuinely wasn't sure. I'm not necessarily convinced he was deliberately tanking that interview. Part of me thinks he's actually just that self-destructive, or that he has the mentality that if he points out every one of his many and significant flaws to people they can't be used against him.
"The women I dated were pretty...sure. But they were Arkansas 8. Not LA 10's." That's baffling to hear that coming from him. He's really delusional and shallow.
@@CrèmeTropBrûlée I'm not native either so maybe people can add on the state specific details but: "LA 10" seems to be some super model type as LA is where a lot of the TV/Movie personality actors/actresses live. "Arkansas 8" I am not sure about this, but since LA 10 = supermodel, we probably can assume Arkansas 8 is the opposite. I assume that what is suggested is: people rate 'less attractive' people higher than they actually are because of the general population not being as pretty as for example in LA. Shallow statement from Boogie and frankly surreal hearing that from him. Best I can do, hope it helps.
@user-fb9sm/nn2x LA 10‘s meaning Los Angles 10/10 women Versus a random state like Arkansas, and an 8/10 woman. He wanted more beautiful women and was saying they were average
@@CrèmeTropBrûlée theres 2 parts to it, the number which is 0-10 is your basic rating scale, the other part is a little more confusing but basically just means that someone whos an 8 in arkansas (which is a state) would be nowhere near as good looking as an LA 8 or whatever, just means people look better/sluttier in certain states or cities
@@CrèmeTropBrûléeyes, there was a recent trend going around about Los Angeles 10/10s, or Miami 10/10s, which are cities "known" for their beautiful women. An Arkansas 8/10s would be considered just a city bumpkin compared to these city 10's, "nothing comparable" according to this social media trend that's been going around. in my opinion this idea is not even true (there's beautiful women everywhere in America 😂) but a lot of men specifically like to mention the LA 10's a lot.
Even the woman giving the interview asked him why would you say all this in a job interview. She was pissed because she could tell he intentionally sabotaged the interview and wasted her time.
I'm baffled at the job interview. He lays down all reasons to NOT hire him within 1 minute: depression, health issues, law violations... It's almost as if he didn't want to get the job. Dude is an asshole. He wants everything handled to him because he is fat. Manipulative asshole.
100%. pay to win is fine if that's what you need but bragging about it like it makes you better than other people is like, ok, you're a sore "winner" and everybody hates that.
Yeah wow that's a perfect description. Like I used to sympathize with him like I do with fellow depression sufferers, but I slowly started being disgusted by the guy, and it's totally narcissism. I feel like that combination is rare, I find it so foreign to talk about myself even remotely positively (better than i was though for sure) and same with every other person in my life with depression. And that paints his "woe is me" posts in a different light, because it's clear he doesn't feel that way deep down, he just knows it will get him attention and money.
It's like Boogie became the fusion of every bad nerd stereotype ever. The entitlement, indulgence, perpetual victim mentality, terminally online nonsense, lack of social skills and the sad attempts at being edgy, it all puts his Francis character to shame. Boogie is the gigaredditor.
There are bad nerd stereotypes? I just thought a nerd was a socially awkward person who tended to gravitate towards hobbies like gaming, comics, tabletop board games.
My ass. Try getting a cavity repaired, a decaying tooth pulled out or an appendix removed without money. Wealth is not everything but it really helps. I'm so sick of these yuppie bullshit takes, man.
@@elektroplaymusic3253it’s an inaccurate quote but it makes sense, it’s more so talking about what can be replaced. Wealth can (relative to the other things) easily be replaced, so it’s the first thing to sacrifice
@@goldensun7702you don't actually belive this about everyone right? You don't think Charlie does right? Cause if so please stop and think. I think Charlie is great but it doesn't mean he deserves better than a 'normal' person.
He's probably lonely and needed someone to talk to. Don't act tough in the comments section if you can't back it up. Stick to the Ebert and Roeper angle.
My guess is confidence I guess. I mean, with all the excuses he made he’s trying to muster up what he’s got, which is something one should not be proud of imo. Desperate time calls for desperate measures.
What's ur problem? People need to say the truth on what is happening with their life, you can't just say "mean stuff or "what is wrong with him", people need to let it out so they don't think about it too much.
His interview was insane. He sat and just gave her every reason possible to not hire him. He walked in and basically said he’s a HR and PR nightmare. Yikes.
That was barely an interview. He basically walked in and just confessed his problems like a confession booth, and he clearly didn't want to get the job. An interview can't physically get any worse than that.
@@CodPatrol "If you google my name you'll find rumors i beat my wife.... I have an aggravated assault felony.... I was in the porn industry for 7 years." yeah, real great presentation for a hiring agent lol. Mentions of his disability and depression were not the main issue.
I dont know how many time i've argued with a previous friend i had about self-awareness. She'd tout herself as so self aware, but there would arill be problems. Idk how many times i said "self awareness is not the end of that road, its just the first step!"to her. It doesnt help their - and Boogie's - narrative to see it that way tho. Their goals aren't to do better, it's to manipulate others.
I never understood bragging about having sex with “L.A. 10’s” when they are only there for your money. I rather be with a 7 that actually enjoys my company.
frankley i don’t give a rats ass what my partner looks like, so long as they are healthy and happy. i’ll always find them attractive so long as they’re at least a decent person
Yeah no shit hes depressed and lost everything its annoying how Charlie acts like you can just "fix it", thats not how depression work they cant fix years and years of depression by just going "ok well fix it right now in front of a camera lol" boogie needs mental health help or he will literaly end himself soon and has sui tendencies he needs mental health services not this
The job firm employee listening to Boogie list off all of the things that can be found when looking him up online is the pure epitome of 'excuse me what the fuck'.
"I have no work experience (even though he said he worked before) "No references (again they could contact the place he once worked unless they closed down, but that was 17 years ago too) "If you look up my name you may see rumors I beat my ex wife (excuse me?) "And that I'm a pedophile (I mean, he admitted hes scared to have kids because he may 'touch them or harm them' since it happened to him (allegedly) growing up and he is scared of repeating the cycle, apparently)
If we go back in time thirty to thirty-five years, it's clear that Boogie9234whatever never had any discipline in his life. His parents probably bought him every new video game system and any toys or action figures he wanted, and his teachers never got on him for neglecting his schoolwork. There's such a stark contrast between how he interacts in a professional setting compared to how a refined academic markets himself to potential employers.
He's really the prime example of a waste of genetics. He just continues to run his life into the toilet while blaming everything else, all while not even looking at how his own attitude is causing it. She really said it perfectly. Basically that it's a state of mind, and if you're constantly negative, "I can't" becomes a reality. He also says that he has 4 million subscribers... yippee. A whole 4 million people that go to your channel just to hate-watch, shame, belittle and insult you. That's something to give up the possibility of a real job with real money. What a joke of an excuse. His TH-cam career is the only thing in his life that's beyond salvage. He can still lose weight, find a job, make some actual money and make something of his life, but he just wants to live terminally online.
@@RobbieStacks90 I don't think he knew his dad. At least, he doesn't talk about him much. His mom was incredibly abusive. He definitely wasn't spoiled. He's one of the people who didn't make it through their childhood abuse.
I watched papa gut watch the whole doc and to be honest the interview and most other scenes are all clearly staged if u watch the full doc like he's in a job interview with a documentary camera crew
I feel as though the documentary is just another excuse to try to feel sorry for him. Like, who makes a whole documentary on someone's current self-destructive lifestyle? It's for pity, and instead of feeling sorry for himself, he should just try bettering himself and realize that it's never too late to start going forward in life.
But he’s always been “here,” though, so it’s not like he’s only been in this place just recently, you know? Or it’s not that it sucks to see where he is *now* so much as it’s who he’s revealed himself to be, and mourning the kind of person many people thought he was up until now. So it feels more sad to have been so completely fooled by a freak like him. 😣
I never knew of Boogie enough to have an opinion on him- but now I certainly do 😬 poor baby, hadn’t slept with a single model?! How could this injustice happen to a guy as nice as he is?! 🙄
@@Uhhalrightig I grew up with chronic, overpowering shame that I've carried with me to this day. I've done a lot of work on it, but it's still there. However, I've literally never had a "woe is me" attitude. Are you sure this is tied to shame, and not some other kind of issue (like narcissism)? Anyway, to the extent it is, it's certainly not a one-to-one relationship. My shame issues largely manifest as deserving of punishment, etc., but I never wallowed in my shitty situation or anything. To the extent I blamed anyone or anything, I only ever blamed myself. In general, I more just tried to escape it and avoid dealing with it or feeling it or acknowledging it. If anything, erred in the other direction ("i'm going to figure it all out, woe is not me" - even when this wasn't a realistic or helpful take).
I’m on probation at my job and have been feeling depressed about it, but seeing how much of a shitshow boogie and his life is and hearing Charlie say “you’re still alive, you can make things better” is unironically inspiring
I don't mean to sound negative, and I'm saying this as someone who manages others. Nobody exits probation. Even if you do "check the boxes", you're out the next time there's a layoff first thing. Probation is a way to shield the company from liability. So unless there is something specific that got you on probation (like you showed up drunk a bunch and are no longer doing that), it's your signal to look for another job...don't try to salvage this one, they already told you they don't want you there.
the thing is that with bojack you can argue that he DID go through a severe amount of abuse as a child and at points tried to be better even if he failed boogie has actively lied about his childhood and gives up the second he has to take action and be accountable
@@zekeiwa5837ive said it once, ill say it again: Boogie is how people would have perceived Bojack had we didnt watch the entire show. We find it easier to sympathize with Bojack because we've seen his story, his intimate moments where he has the potential to be good but at the end of the day, is his own worst enemy. That's why the people who have watched the show, or at least some them, tend to romanticize him and/or believe and that he isnt so "bad". But Boogie on the other hand, how a lot of people react to him now is how the people in the show reacted to Bojack after his 2nd interview. They dont know he had a shitty childhood, that he has issues and he's trying to be better, that when he did some of the worst things in his life, it wasnt out of malice or pure evilness. However, something crucial to remember is that you're not judged for your intentions, but for your actions and their consequences, and the show made that gradually clear as every episode passed by. And even if Hollywoo did know about his sad life, it doesnt matter to them--without that connection the audience developed while watching the show, they find it easier to condemn him because the only thing that truly mattered at the end of the day was that Bojack still did those things, and no amount of tragic backstory is going to help erase or lessen the consequences of those actions. And Boogie is the same thing.
I'm a recovering addict. I had used since the 90s but in 2010 the love of my life (my wife) was killed when we were out taking a walk. A car ran off the road , missed me by inches and hit her. She died in my arms on the side of the road. That messed me up so bad and I spiraled down in my addiction. For years I blamed my wife's death for my bad decisions and drug use..one day I finally realized..she's dead..I need to stop blaming her and take some fucking responsibility for my choices..then I could finally make some changes and get some help...boogie is blaming everyone and everything around him for what's happening to him so he never has to take responsibility. Until he wakes up and takes some responsibility for his life he will never change
I'm so sorry to hear that man, I hope you're doing better now. Honestly it's inspiring to me how you could find help and improve even in the deepest of places
The fact that his interview was insane. He sat and just gave her every reason possible to not hire him. He walked in and basically said he's a HR and PR nightmare. Yikes.
Many years ago I was out of work and the benefits people forced me to go to an interview for a job I did not want. I made sure I did not get that job by being honest about a few things I knew would make them not want me. It was a great tactic. What I said though was tame compared to Boogie and he literally brought up every single thing about himself that any self respecting employer would automatically say "nope".
It was intentional. He never went there with any intention to get a job. He doesn't want a job. Only reason he went there is for the entertainment of it and getting attention.
@OpalLeigh He sabotaged it on purpose so he can point at it and go "See? No one will hire me! I only beg online for money because there simply is no alternative!" Poor man-baby. This hurts so much to say too as someone who used look up to Boogie 😥
this happens sometimes in sweden, if you dont have a job then the goverment forces you to search for jobs to and apply to them, if you dont do it they might cutt of your wwellfair checks you get from being unemployed. so some people that gets interviews to jobs they dont want do shit like this to stay on goverment payroll.
Agreed. The sex worker thing is gross and disgusting. The way he is talking and thinking about women, he deserves to be alone for the rest of his life. Sadly he found a damaged young soul with daddy issues he can exploit and manipulate. I hope his "girlfriend" gets out of this hell soon.
@@moimoiyoop it was actually pretty funny for me in real time cuz I knew I wrote that “it’s not like he beat anyone” triggered comment then 10 minutes later “I have a felony in aggravated assault”
@@MoneyIQOfficialabuse starts way before beating. He's not capable of having healthy adult relationships with women, the way he's talking about them. He doesn't see women as people, but as servants to pleasure him and work for him. He deserves to be alone.
Boogie would be one of the few people on this planet who, if you traveled back in time, showed him his future, and told him he could avoid this if he made better choices, he'd still willingly make the same mistakes and say, "Well, I can't avoid destiny."
This guy really is a special case and thank god that alot of men are not like him, but yeah I agree its pretty scary and disgusting even if I can't relate much because im a man, but if I was a woman im sure I would be much more terrified to see this
I think it's actually a good thing. Not many guys with that mentality would show it off as brazenly as this. He's basically waving a massive red flag in front of everyone's faces
I’m actually sad that I used to watch him. I can see why his wife left him now. Thanks for giving me some insight on to how much of a horrible person he is.
The funniest part is how he says "I've never dated a model" as if that's something everyone gets to do but he wasn't allowed to. It was taken away from him.
@@xxxsnippzzxxx9355ok, I agree, but you kinda went with the huge OG creators. Let's pick people more on Boogies size. Sam Strippin, Jesse Cox, Jirard the completionist Khalil, Crendor. These are smaller more on Boogies size creators, that have actually slaved away at trying to survive as creators for almost as long. Those others are so big that they could put out a video of them sleeping and it would be enough income for them to live off of for years.
Goes for every single career. You should be saving like you aren't going to be working that job in the next few years if you can. When something does go wrong then you have months to years to figure out a plan.
My jaw dropped at the interview portion. The fact that he went right in with "This is EVERYTHING under the sun thats wrong with me and EVERY reason you shouldn't get me a job" immediately was just.... jesus...
I don't see this as self-sabotage, more so as figuring it's all going to come out anyways when employers do background checks, so he may as well be honest upfront with the person whose job it is to find him work and try to see if anything can be done in spite of this. It's still all bad, but better to have it come from your own mouth than rumors from people who don't even know you.
@@Amins88 Plenty of people will see honesty as enough to make up for a million other flaws. That, and self awareness is a step to improvement so he is demonstrating at the very least SOME progress down that path. But that being said, this wasn't even a job interview. It was a staffing agency - they were asking about his history and where to place him in the job market. Everything he said is somewhat useful information for the staffer - she's motivated to find him a job anywhere, so she should know that information so she can find a reasonably suitable job for a person who is so unsuited to the job market.
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies It's tricky, because I definitely feel he has an incredibly defeatist personality and he's definitely not a great person. But I saw him in that interview and felt like he was laying it all out putting his faith in this person to work with him and she just laughed in his face. No wonder he decided to quit the job search.
Boogie's problem is he's comfortable. He isn't changing because he's happy with how things are. His constant trauma dumping is less about actual pain and more about him loving the idea of defining his story as a tragedy.
It’s the easy path honestly, he’d rather sit on his arse getting more unhealthy getting poorer and poorer till one day he dies and people see it as a tragedy as a man who at one point had it all and then lost the battle with his demons. The reality of the situation is this man refuses to put in the work and self restraint it would take to fix his life, he could take that money he’s blowing on screwing models and get a gym membership and a personal trainer, hell for the money he’s spent he could get someone to make healthy meals for him on a weekly basis (plenty of places offer these sort of services), he could start looking at what modern content creators are doing and revamp his channel to get viewers again (he has about 5mill subs but most of his recent video views are less than 50k) once he’s getting money from that he could then get in touch with a financial planner who can put his money in safer hands to mature and look after him so this doesn’t happen again and clear his debts.
@@citizen-7xl5 Did you not watch the documentary or are you doing a pointless what if scenario? He doesn't have any money left, he already lost it all from "screwing models" and a huge majority from investing in crypto like an idiot.
The most telling part of the whole thing is when Mike, the director, is forced to take a break to protect his own mental health. Being around someone like Boogie is so mentally draining. He is so toxic. So awful to be around. So hard to stomach. I've been in a relationship like that before. But yes, the doc is brilliant. And I think Mike Clum is going to produce some absolutely amazing content going forward.
I've seen a few people in the comments say they were in relationships like this. How does that even happen and why did you stay together? Seems baffling to me.
@drunkenhobo8020 people like this are very good at manipulating you into staying. My ex used to have full-on panic attacks if I tried to leave. It was like she couldn't even breathe.
@@drunkenhobo8020I’ll give you a timeless classic of a reason: if you put a frog in boiling water, it’ll realize it’s too hot, and jump out. But, if you put a frog in normal water, and slowly turn up the heat, the frog won’t notice until it’s too late. Manipulators like to hide the worst parts of themselves until they’ve got their claws in you.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I've been in a relationship like this as well. My ex threatened to kill herself in front of me if I left when trying to break up with her AFTER I found out she cheated on me. Some people are just crazy and toxic man.
He let everything out like the mock interviewer was his therapist omg, an interview is like selling youself and he just kept going with the negatives it had me feeling depressed I didn't watch him but I kinda understand the nuances of where the "he really likes being the victim card" comes from
Lol I mean that, also that if you google his name he pops up with wife beating and pedoph*le accusations, oh and that he’s done porn. He didn’t want a job and did what he does- self sabotage. He could have taken the route of “I built a well followed channel online I was able to monetize and maintain for 17 years”. Nope. “I haven’t had a job since 2006 and I’m also, as you can see, morbidly obese”. Just wildddd
Untreated mental trauma comes back in middle age. But as an adult he has to take charge, and not wallow. I know this first hand. For the first time in my life, I love my life. I love this world. It takes some of us decades to get over our adolescence. I urge everyone to love yourselves. Self care is everything. Exercise, decent diet, and therapy! Therapy doesn't have to be sitting in an office talking to a therapist. It could be Yoga, or Tai chi. Anything that lets you center yourself and really think, and feel. Your life won't be perfect, but you'll be much more ready to deal with things as they come. Sorry for the long comment. I'm just really passionate about helping those to get where I am without wasting so much time.
The fact that Boogie had Diamond Dallas Page, a man who has his own yoga program and is well-documented in helping so many people and turning their lives around for the better, come in to help him with his weight loss and Boogie did absolutely nothing with it is the most telling thing when it comes to his health. The opportunity was right there and he threw it away.
Bruh, all that money spent on sex workers could've been better spent on removing all the fat from his body with surgery at least, he had the opportunity to change his life for the better.
@@HanDaimondThat can only get him so far. The guy lacks any morsel of accountability or discipline which would've ended with him regaining the weight in no time. He has a way far-gone "quitter" mentality and it's crazy that he hasn't gotten his shit together in his almost 50 years of life.
If i remember correctly he was very critical of Wings of Redemption and it’s ironic to see them go down very similar paths. Despite Wings being a living example of what not to become for him.
I still remember back in 2018 he was Mr Roger of the TH-cam. Everyone look at him on such high regard and he had massive 500k annual income. Every day, he received a gifts from his fans and subscribers. It need special talent to fuck it up.
Hey there, random interwebs person here. Just here to say I hope things start to look up for you. Be blessed....get blessed. Do it. Now. THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU! ok. I'm done. Feel better homie
You can *_absolutely_* feel bad for people like this if you have a heart. _Literally nobody_ chooses to be like this. Do you actually think he woke up some day when he was a kid and thought _"fuck it, I'm going to become an obese depressed man with a shitty childhood who gets addicted to everything and can't control his eating and spending and has a trashy selfish attitude"?_ I don't think having had a dogshit life is an _"excuse"_ or a free card to act like a douchebag, but if people like this straight up had the choice to have a better childhood or to have had it easier to avoid giving into cravings and avoid depression etc. etc. they *_absolutely_* would've made that choice. You can feel bad for people while still punishing/condemning their actions. Again, nobody is actively _"chosing"_ to be like this before they're already most of the way there. If you were him, had his brain, body and upbringing/environment you would've become the exact same person...and I would've felt sorry for you as well.
@@handsomebear.I disagree, it’s not his situation that makes him impossible to pity, it’s his arrogance. He didn’t chose to be like this but he is, and he’s choosing to stay that way. There’s no reason to feel pity, if he wishes to remain unchanged then so will my opinion of him, it’s not cold, merely fair if anything
@@boo9781 Sounds like you don't understand what extremely bad mental health does to someone. If recovering was so easy, people wouldn't be having such a hard time with it. It's not a flip of a switch.
He should serve as a deterrent example of being terminally online. Anyone can and will become a Boogie if they completely lose themselves on social media.
@@SerpentineJack99 abuse victim frequently belittle and deflect the severity of the abuse they were subjected to so I would be hesitant to so I would be skeptical on the surface of her claims anyway but, even if this was the case, he clearly has some deep rooted trauma from somewhere otherwise he wouldn’t be 600 pounds. There is literally no one who is not deeply flawed and suicidally depressed who stays at his weight bracket as long as he has.
@@orangutanenthusiast5631 A bit odd then that boogie doesn't deflect the severity then, huh. He used to love talking about exactly how severe it was. Watch his draw your life or one of his h3h3 podcast appearances. If those things truly happened to him, he wouldn't be so cavalier about it. He just loves having a woe is me excuse for every one of his one shortcomings. There comes a time when you have to start blaming yourself for what bad actions you make in life. Or in boogies case inaction.
My favorite part was when they were interviewing an escort he had previously hired, and she legit said, "Sleeping with Boogie was the reason I quit sex work"
He transformed into the person his abusive mother told him he was. What a wild ride. He never got over his mom's stuff, and then by luck fell into a windfall and blew it all away. Abusive childhood + mental disorder + narcacissm is a terrible cocktail.
Family trauma is not something you simply "get over". Especially when it's an all the time thing, and not one horrible event. You talk like mental health is not a thing that exists.
@@pairot01 I realize why Boogie was likely molded by his abusive mom. I also had an abusive mom and she died before we could reconcile. I miss her, but my life would be worse if she still had influence on it. Her parents made her that way. I don't call them my grandparents because they are so bad. They sculpted her into a manipulative monster. My grandmother is alive and grandfather died from COVID because he thought the government was out to get him but he got the cough and died. He also held my mom's grave hostage. My mom kinda ruined my family.
@@pairot01 the issue is “age” and “accountability” at what point do we acknowledge that a person’s problems and issues are their own. Is society supposed to just accept a person doing shitty things to others just because they had a shitty childhood? What if they murder someone in cold blood? Do we still attribute it to trauma? If an adult still struggles with their past that fine but that doesn’t excuse them of their actions If its a teen or a kid in a similar circumstance, sure, they’re young and immature
@@pairot01 Mental health issues are not your fault, but they are your responsibility. Nobody is saying it doesn't exist, they're saying he's making it everyone else's problem and doing nothing to help himself. He's taking no actual accountability for himself or the things he's said/done, and that's the problem. I feel bad for Boogie, he had a shit childhood, and if even half of what he said about his mom is true then she was an absolute monster that no child should have had to endure. I feel bad for him, but I don't feel sympathy for him though, because I also see he's not doing anything to help himself despite seemingly being aware of his mental issues and being handed opportunity after opportunity to get the help he knows he needs but throwing it away constantly. And now he's dragging down a clearly mentally damaged girl barely out of high school with daddy and abandonment issues, and using his health problems as a way to manipulate and keep her on the hook until he dies because he's so selfish and views women as tools, not people.
The worst thing that happened to boogie was social media. Everyone thought he was a nice guy then he started streaming on twitch and he started tweeting and everyone got to see who he really was.
Way back when he still had a positive rep I talked to him on neogaf. He came across as a passive aggressive piece of shit. I knew at that point he was going to take himself down in flames.
@@PickleAllergy It must be tough to be one of the greatest of TH-cam at some point and then going into a continual downfall with no apparent end to it.
i met Boogie several times at conventions between 2013 and 18. 13-17 he was amazing. he was so down to earth and friendly. he remembered me and several other people. he asked about how certain things were going in my life, etc. he was very generous with his time talking to everyone. and all the other guests at this convention gushed about what a great guy he was. you couldn't find anyone who would say a bad thing about him. 18 just didn't feel the same. he made some comments about his ex that kinda sat weird with me (though i dont remember the exact comment just, that it felt weird coming from him) as well as a few other things. again, I don't remember everything he said but, a lot of it just felt really.....off. i stopped following him as much then. always wanted to believe maybe he was just dealing with some shit and was in a rough patch. that the Boogie id met and talked to so many times before would come back, but he never did. its really sad to see how far he has fallen. makes me wonder how much of those interactions was genuine if any of it was.
The insane thing is Boogie has actual skills. He has over a decade of video editing and graphic design experience. He could easily get a job as a video editor anywhere.
"He could easily get a job as a video editor anywhere." Not after the prospective employer sees this footage. Nobody in their right mind wants their business associated with somebody like him. He admitted to being a ped0, ffs. I sure as hell wouldn't hire the guy. Airing his own filthy laundry online to the point where he's become famous has obliterated any chance he has of ever getting a normal job.
...dude, have you seen his videos and thumbnails? I could literally do better and so could you. He's lazy and he refuses to even attempt to get better. 10+ years on TH-cam and look at him, the worst thumbnails ever with spelling errors on all of them, and click bait.
Yeah but I mean real talk his best bet is probably to get hired for TH-cam editing right? Boogie is pretty TH-cam famous for all the wrong reasons. So do we really think he'll easily find an editing job at least on TH-cam? Otherwise he has to try and find someone outside of TH-cam to do editing for. Which while possible means having to look which I'm guessing is a whole no go for him. Not defending him at all just trying to realistically talk about the odds of it actually happening.
Would you hire a morbidly obese felon with a track record of failing to meet deadlines for every sort of thing imaginable from video posting to losing weight? Not to mention the crutch of pleading disability, depression and everything else he'd cry as stumbling blocks to avoid personal accountability.
He addressed this video on Twitter by hiding behind his so-called cancer diagnosis (which was mysteriously never mentioned in this documentary). This guy is unbelievable. He used to use his childhood abuse as a shield, mental health as a shield, he then used s**cide as a shield and now he's using cancer of all things to try and deflect backlash. Once you know his tactics, he is so transparent and irredeemable.
He didn't mention his CANCER or AUTISM in this documentary for some strange reason, two of his most serious conditions that should be very easily proven... Just so happens these two are the two most rumored to be 100% fabricated by Boogie as well, big surprise there folks! The place he claimed he got the tism diagnosed from doesn't do ANY autism testing whatsoever, let alone for adults. He's a fat liar, full stop, end of story.
@@ydowgen The cancer mentioned in the documentary is actually referring to a cancerous mole he had cut out about 20 years ago. There's no mention of the alleged cancer he is claiming to be suffering from right now, which is interesting because he's magically feeling the affects of it now that he's receiving backlash!
I don't feel bad for her in the slightest. That's what she gets paid to do. I had to remind a student the other day that I'M the teacher. We do it my way, or it's the highway, and you can moan and pout and shoot TikTok videos all you want, but you're going to listen when I'm teaching. You have to be authoritative with this generation. Snatch the phone and get them to pay attention. Worry about the parents later.
@@RobbieStacks90 if a kid wants to be on the phone and not pay attention let em, they won't be paying attention anyways if you take their phones away.
@@pinoarias8601 We need to give these students the discipline they aren't getting at home. Students from Japan, Singapore, and India have been scoring higher on standardized testing than American students over the past couple of decades. The only way to reverse this trend is to make our students pay attention, even if draconian measures are required.
Hearing charlie say "he's taking the piss" as 11:13, being british I couldn't help but laugh. Probably the first time I've heard an American use that term.
He implies his ex wife was an “Arkansas 8”?! She’s an easy 10/10 just for living with him as long as she did. Absolutely creep and scumbag. He deserves his failure.
For many years after his divorce he basically blamed her for how miserable he was and that he wanted to die. Now he acts like she doesn’t exist. And I think we can all see now why she divorced him.
I’ve seen pics of her and she’s quite stunning actually but what mind blows me is that he actually called her on stream to ask if she “cucked” him like WTF
Surprised she even put up with him for that many years and the same with his current gf. I can’t imagine being with someone who always quits before even starting and whining their life is shit.
Can't wait for Boogie to make a "response" video talking about how he's gonna ignore the "haters" while actively engaging with said "haters" and play the victim for the one billionth time
It was definitely eye opening. The fact they had to take a break recording because it was too depressing for the team is insanity. He’s a joy succubus, whose sole drive is making everyone feel miserable for him.
That reminds me of that episode of the Boondocks where a documentary host keeps trying to interview Huey and his absolute apathy due to "Retiring" starts to make the guy miserable just sharing the room with him.
A woman In the documentary said that she quit sex work immediately after having sex with Boogie. That may just be one of the greatest burns of the next 1000 years right there if you ask me
Watching that part with the mock interview, it made me realize that Boogie is an emotional vampire. Every talk with him becomes a woe-is-me-I’m-the-victim-I-hate-myself session. I know someone like this in real life and it is exhausting
I used to watch his videos all the time, and this is pretty much exactly what made me stop watching his content or even liking him as a person. Every once in a while he'd post a video on how he was going on another diet to lose weight and a few months later would post another video on why he failed it again and how it wasn't his fault but his mom's for how shitty his childhood was.
omg this guy is totally an energy vampire. He drains everyone around him and feeds off their energy. You could literally see that interviewer go from "I'm excited to help you!" to "Dear god, I've made a horrible mistake, how do I get out of this room?" And I'm guessing that is how every single interaction with him goes. Once people truly stop listening to him and giving him attention, he will have all the excuse to finish his story in a terrible way, and thereby confirm he is the ultimate "victim" of a cruel and uncaring world. This isn't a person, it's a walking bag of neuroticism heading for a cliff.
😂, “ Hi how are you” “ I am 400 pounds, I’m disabled, I have no references, no education, no work history, no drive, if you Google me I beat my ex wife?! 😂 wtf is wrong with this person.
Interviewer: Ok, let's get this job interview started. Boogie: Sure thing, let me IMMEDIATELY enumerate every single reason why hiring me would be a terrible idea.
@@miguelzurita3216 Joker would look at Boogie and say "I'm a complete psychopatch, but what the fuck is wrong with you?". Even someone criminally insane has more morals than Boogie, hell, Joker actually was able to get a normal job in some comic stories, he's already better off than Boogie.
Most mentally ill people are terrible at helping them self, because they’re mentally ill, if they could help them self then they often wouldn’t be considered mentally ill, hence why therapy and medication are such big things and why suicide and being sectioned isn’t that uncommon
@CrewmateComplexXPits honestly pathetic how you just comment some bullshit on how you say your better then him like your a bot so people can subscribe.
I've dealt with people who share a similar defeatist attitude. They are so convinced that their life sucks and will never get better that they do absolutely nothing to help themselves. It's sad. It's never too late for anyone. His attitude in that documentary was so incredibly sad
Agree. I had a similar attitude towards life as boogie/wings. I started doing the most basic of stuff like going for walks and getting coffee and now life feels much better. Mindset is everything.
except there are situations where it's impossible to get better ...Trust me,people like you who don't have a clue of how bad life can get would most likely be even more of a defeatist if you happened to be in that person's position.
@@rokanza2293 I am acutely aware of how hard life can get. Main thing is to focus on what you can change, not on what you can't change. Life can get hard, but historically it could be much worse. We could have been literal slaves or born into some ISIS controlled village in the middle east. But here we are watching videos of boogie on TH-cam.
@@methylphenidate69 My friend,I am not even kidding that perhaps being a slave would be easier than what I am going through for a long period of time lol. At least being a slave without serious mental health issues like I do, my life for the past 4 years was mostly torture and me trying not to kill myself and appear as though nothing is happening and try to be as functional as I can and accomplish what is possible under such circumstances.
@@CJfromMEXICObegging lmfao. What like every youtuber does with begging for subs and likes every video. Ya it's pathetic af. Imagine begging for anything lmfao
Had a girlfriend like this before I met my current wife. No matter how much effort i put in, no matter what I did to try to better our lives and our situation she was always ready at a moments notice to rip it down and pull the anxiety and depression card. We couldnt even talk normally and have a typical conversation because the moment I'd try to relieve some stress from my day by either talking about it or just unwinding with a hobby, she'd immediately turn it on its head. You can only help people who want to help themselves, and when people dont want to help themselves, theres nothing you can do.
Damn man im similar with your ex and was the very same reason why she broke up with me recently because of self pity and depression which i ended up emotionally hurting her, i had so much regrets and made me realize that i should learn to love and improve myself first :(( not being a defeatist
Same. Over 10 years. I figured after the breakup, she'd be happy, especially with how much she made me feel I held her back so much. Nope, she's just a miserable person.
Fully expect a self pitying direct reply to this video from Boogie “Thanks for your video man. It’s a fair summary. To this day I see myself as a work in progress and I’ll keep trying hard to be better. Much love. Boogie xx”
Much of the internet community supported Boogie for MANY years, giving him advice, encouragement etc. he took it and threw it in the garbage and spent all the money. Thanks man. It’s hard to be a fan.
Thing is if you look at the only other person on the internet who self sabatoges this much (Christian Weston Chandler) They are mentally disabled to where its debated they can live on their own. They have the worst circumstances and may have even been groomed. But somehow Boogie manages to in volume make even worse choices than CWC does. its insane.
I remember when I was a kid I used to like watching boogie for mainly gaming takes and some other random stuff, and I still remember his "...coming at you through the power, of the internet" and what a nice part of my childhood on yt he was. I haven't really followed his situation in years and I can barely stomach finding out just what went wrong
This is a mentality I used to have when I was a child. "If something doesn't go my way, I'll make sure everyone knows how upset and terrible I am so that they feel pity for me and give me my way."
God as someone with depression I also have the "I can't, I can't, I can't," mentality. But damn. I'm not as bad as this guy when it comes to self sabatoge. This video gave me hope because no matter what, I'll never be as bad as this dude.
“You suffer more in imagination than in reality”. Just because you think it, doesn’t mean it’s true. Go out there and improve your character brother, don’t worry about the past or the future, live in the present
Like at least I'm not going to use it specifically as an excuse to alleviate any kind of responsibility that my own actions hold. That interview section was of the most second hand embarrassing things I've ever listened to.
That interview is the perfect comparison between someone that's terminally online and someone that's actually lived a normal, well adjusted life. Say whatever you want about "the normies", but she nailed down Boogie's problems and confronted him head-on about it over the course of a single minute. Meanwhile, Boogies is still stuck in that endless spiral, wasting his life away worrying about what strangers online think about him, and somehow thinking that's better than just a normal job somewhere.
Yeah i was surprised she actually went that route and actually confronted him. There was no babying or infantilizing (which was might Boogie likely expected whenever he dumps... whatever he just dumped on someone). She said it best, might be obvious but it's an important thing to realize nonetheless: if your main approach is to constantly think that you can't, then you definitely can't.
I can't help but think this is how a lot of people conduct their interviews. The "I can't" mentality is so prevalent out there. I swear I see at least one viral post a week from some person with a mild disability claiming they just simply can't work and the world is against them.
Yup. He did this obviously intentionally so he could just point and say, "see, I can't get a real job. I have all of these issues and it just isn't feasible for me." He is addicted to feeling sad and having everyone feel sorry for him.
I struggle a lot with self-degrading thoughts in times when I’m sad, angry, frustrated, etc., and I get intrusive thoughts that are basically the exact same things Boogie says about himself. “I can’t “I can’t” “I can’t” “It’s too late” “There’s nothing I can do”. Seeing him like this is almost like looking into another timeline for me. I can’t help but wonder if I could have ended up just like Boogie if I gave in to those awful, terrible thoughts.
It's okay to have those thoughts sometimes, especially when upset. In fact, most people do. The difference between you and Boogie is that you didn't surrender to them, and he did. It's sad to watch a person throw their life away, but it seems to me there's a part of him that feeds on the negative attention it gets him. I'm a stranger, but I'm proud of you for not giving in. You didn't end up like him, and you won't.
For me, it's kinda like I'm at a crossroads between fully giving up on life like he did vs continuing to try and make things better. I've been stuck in the self degrading "I can't I can't I can't" mindset for like 4 years now, and while I do have genuine barriers, none of them are nearly as big as the way I treat myself. I'm only 22, and somehow it feels like my life is over already, which is absolutely ridiculous. I have no reason to think that way. How do you break out of shit like this? I'm so pissed off at myself for being my own worst enemy, and for not taking responsibility, yet I STILL haven't done anything about it. I just sleep all day and play videogames all night. Which obviously doesn't feel fulfilling, but I don't even know what would be fulfilling
Boogie is just an awful person. So it’s 100% likely u wouldn’t. Boogie even admited years ago having grape fantasies about his sister and his mom. He’s just a sick headed individual who thinks that his fame or the fame he had is an excuse to being a degenerate
@@rileymachelle4088i feel like it’s mostly the pressure we put on ourselves to do something bigger. We r subconsciously comparing ourselves to our peers and feel like we are falling behind. While what we may do on our free time isn’t productive if it’s fulfilling to US then it’s okay, as long as you try working on balancing it more with other stuff in life
Charlie has instantly noticed it: Boogie deliberately sabotages the interview. It's not like he says all this stuff because he is unaware of how it may come off, it's the opposite. He knows really well how she will perceive him
She works for a hiring agency to help him find a job with another company. I'm sure it's not the first time she's had somebody bring in a Boogie who just wanted to come in to try to make her say that there was no way he could ever get a normal job and that he was totally helpless. That's why she didn't play around
@@DaniStone17 Exactly. Being honest with her so she can find you someone who fits the bill is exactly what you should be doing. Now I do agree Boogie had no intention of actually getting a job and would have sabotaged it anyways, but it'd be like hiding things from your doctor. They're there to help you
@@fettigeredgar eh no the interview was obviously content done for the documentary. Charlie just feels the need to pretend like we can't tell that they're filming a scene.
the "talking out of the grave" aspect or also the "if only i HAD done xyz" i can atleast relate to that part, its virtually impossible to bring up the the amount of motivation and determination to change something when you cant even manage to care anymore about anything really, ive been struggling with it for years now and i just cant
That interview felt like when you’re replaying a video game to choose all of the worst possible dialogue options to see what the difference of the outcome would’ve been 💀
lmao true. When she said "be real with me, do you really think it's a good idea to go into a job interview and reference porn?" I was stunned at how long it took him to answer, like he genuinely wasn't sure.
I'm not necessarily convinced he was deliberately tanking that interview. Part of me thinks he's actually just that self-destructive, or that he has the mentality that if he points out every one of his many and significant flaws to people they can't be used against him.
Like a mom who forces her teenager to go to an interview.
bro on god 😂😂i was cringing so hard
I would've told him GTFO my office before he even finished what he was saying
Lmao fr
Thank you for reacting! I put so much work into this debut project and I'm unbelievably thankful you would post about it. You are the greatest.
Congratulations! Great documentary, hope it brings more attention to your future work.
great doc dude
Mike Clum, your talented. Do your work onto better people.
Be honest, you were around Boogie. Did he/house smell?
Your work is amazing! Can't wait to see what comes next
Amazing documentary. But I can't believe that Boogie agreed to it
"The women I dated were pretty...sure. But they were Arkansas 8. Not LA 10's." That's baffling to hear that coming from him. He's really delusional and shallow.
Can someone translate that line to a non native english speaker actually ? Like is he rating people out of their appearences ?
@@CrèmeTropBrûlée I'm not native either so maybe people can add on the state specific details but:
"LA 10" seems to be some super model type as LA is where a lot of the TV/Movie personality actors/actresses live.
"Arkansas 8" I am not sure about this, but since LA 10 = supermodel, we probably can assume Arkansas 8 is the opposite. I assume that what is suggested is: people rate 'less attractive' people higher than they actually are because of the general population not being as pretty as for example in LA.
Shallow statement from Boogie and frankly surreal hearing that from him.
Best I can do, hope it helps.
@user-fb9sm/nn2x
LA 10‘s meaning Los Angles 10/10 women
Versus a random state like Arkansas, and an 8/10 woman.
He wanted more beautiful women and was saying they were average
@@CrèmeTropBrûlée theres 2 parts to it, the number which is 0-10 is your basic rating scale, the other part is a little more confusing but basically just means that someone whos an 8 in arkansas (which is a state) would be nowhere near as good looking as an LA 8 or whatever, just means people look better/sluttier in certain states or cities
@@CrèmeTropBrûléeyes, there was a recent trend going around about Los Angeles 10/10s, or Miami 10/10s, which are cities "known" for their beautiful women. An Arkansas 8/10s would be considered just a city bumpkin compared to these city 10's, "nothing comparable" according to this social media trend that's been going around. in my opinion this idea is not even true (there's beautiful women everywhere in America 😂) but a lot of men specifically like to mention the LA 10's a lot.
He did it all for the boogie
Hi
The boogie?
Sunshine? Moonlight? Good times? Boogie!
(love your videos btw)
CHOCOLATE STARFISH
He blamed it on the Boogie😂
Boogie is the only dude on earth that will turn a job interview into a therapy session
i wouldnt hire im.. he'd prob get hurt on purpose then try to sue them
Even the woman giving the interview asked him why would you say all this in a job interview. She was pissed because she could tell he intentionally sabotaged the interview and wasted her time.
Did he really do porn for years? I hadn’t heard about that until now.
I'm baffled at the job interview. He lays down all reasons to NOT hire him within 1 minute: depression, health issues, law violations... It's almost as if he didn't want to get the job. Dude is an asshole. He wants everything handled to him because he is fat. Manipulative asshole.
I remember a long time ago I heard he made websites or something along those lines @@robert779
"Addicted to being viewed as a victim" is 100% accurate and why he allowed this to be filmed.
And if you tell him that, he will ramble on for 20 minutes about how messed up his head is.
You’re assuming she’s around because of pure love 😅
@@aliasaad6923I think you've replied to the wrong comment by accident
He probably needs some money as well
asked for it to be fillmed*
The fact one of the sex workers said she quit sex work because of Boogie, and that she regretted sleeping with him was insane.
oh damn where can I see a clip or screenshot of that?
@@fbiopenup5092should be in tbe documentary linked in the video's description
Yeah I noticed that 😂 she was so disgusted by him she stopped selling her body.
…Based Boogie???
That's a good thing then
I love how boogie boasts about laying an LA10 but doesn't realize that having to PAY for said LA10 immediately makes that boast insanely lame.
At last someone said it... omg... it's pay to win it's pathetic
He's the dude that wonders why everyone else gets girls but him😑😆.
Especially when you could have used that money on something that could have actually helped you or made people actually envy you.
100%. pay to win is fine if that's what you need but bragging about it like it makes you better than other people is like, ok, you're a sore "winner" and everybody hates that.
I think Boogie has an addiction addiction.
ignore the among us fanboy above me
nvm his comments got deleted
@CrewmateComplexXPever tought about losing that v card sonny?
@CrewmateComplexXPquestion is who asked tho
that v card is locked away in time@@tpkkr
To be clear, that's an addiction to having addictions.
Boogie is a perfect caricature of narcissism meets depression.
Bojack Horseman
Yep
@@turboshazed7370Rehab was supposed to be a fresh start
@@turboshazed7370damn he went from the Mr Roger's of youtube, to the bojack horseman of youtube. How the turns table.
Yeah wow that's a perfect description. Like I used to sympathize with him like I do with fellow depression sufferers, but I slowly started being disgusted by the guy, and it's totally narcissism. I feel like that combination is rare, I find it so foreign to talk about myself even remotely positively (better than i was though for sure) and same with every other person in my life with depression.
And that paints his "woe is me" posts in a different light, because it's clear he doesn't feel that way deep down, he just knows it will get him attention and money.
It's like Boogie became the fusion of every bad nerd stereotype ever. The entitlement, indulgence, perpetual victim mentality, terminally online nonsense, lack of social skills and the sad attempts at being edgy, it all puts his Francis character to shame. Boogie is the gigaredditor.
AND main character syndrome
he actually is the root of all redditors
There are bad nerd stereotypes? I just thought a nerd was a socially awkward person who tended to gravitate towards hobbies like gaming, comics, tabletop board games.
@@Odinson69Well bro did kinda explain them all, entitlement, main character syndrome and all the rest, pretty much got him to a T
theres stereotypes for a reason
@@itsnotpeter4342 Unless your boogie than the stereotype (Francis) is less of a stereotype than himself
“When wealth is lost, nothing is lost. When health is lost, something is lost. When character is lost, everything is lost.”
Damn, them’s powerful words.
My ass. Try getting a cavity repaired, a decaying tooth pulled out or an appendix removed without money. Wealth is not everything but it really helps. I'm so sick of these yuppie bullshit takes, man.
@@elektroplaymusic3253 Facts
@@elektroplaymusic3253it’s an inaccurate quote but it makes sense, it’s more so talking about what can be replaced. Wealth can (relative to the other things) easily be replaced, so it’s the first thing to sacrifice
"I'm a 45 year old man who had never f'ed a model."
Yeah, Boogie. That's normal.
Yeah, but he's not normal. He's better than us. He might be depressed but he DESERVES hot women, because uhhhhhhhhhhhh....
Me at 30 still haven't done it 😔
@@CiCodiCadnohe indeed is superior than us. He's a nice guy and deserves all the hot women.
Btw not being sarcastic. For real.
@CiCodiCadno he is NOT better than us. Nothing about him makes him better than a normal person.
@@goldensun7702you don't actually belive this about everyone right? You don't think Charlie does right? Cause if so please stop and think. I think Charlie is great but it doesn't mean he deserves better than a 'normal' person.
Why the hell would he talk about all that personal stuff in a work interview
He’s addicted to making people pity him
He's probably lonely and needed someone to talk to. Don't act tough in the comments section if you can't back it up. Stick to the Ebert and Roeper angle.
Interview was over when he said his last job was 2006-2007 ngl
My guess is confidence I guess. I mean, with all the excuses he made he’s trying to muster up what he’s got, which is something one should not be proud of imo.
Desperate time calls for desperate measures.
What's ur problem? People need to say the truth on what is happening with their life, you can't just say "mean stuff or "what is wrong with him", people need to let it out so they don't think about it too much.
I don't get how you can spend $200,000 on "workers" while having a girlfriend.. That's truly insane.
your subscribers are botted and you beg for likes
This was WHILE he had the girlfriend? I was assuming it was before.
that was before he had a girlfriend, but still absolutely insane
You’re a mook😒
@@hiirotoshi god is his gf a worker too then lol
“Yeah, he’s a little weird, but he’s a nice guy. Why don’t you just give him a chance?”
The Guy:
Yup!
giving a friggin basement dweller a chance is one of the worst things you can do
That sounds weirdly specific lmao
His interview was insane. He sat and just gave her every reason possible to not hire him. He walked in and basically said he’s a HR and PR nightmare. Yikes.
That was barely an interview. He basically walked in and just confessed his problems like a confession booth, and he clearly didn't want to get the job. An interview can't physically get any worse than that.
HR and PR nightmare? Why? For having mental health issues? He presented himself well
@@abewear2882 atleast he’s honest, doesn’t say some fake PR letter. He actually says what he is
@@CodPatrol "If you google my name you'll find rumors i beat my wife.... I have an aggravated assault felony.... I was in the porn industry for 7 years." yeah, real great presentation for a hiring agent lol. Mentions of his disability and depression were not the main issue.
@@CodPatrolyou’ve commented 3 separate times defending this guy 😂 is that your idol or are you just not that bright?
Really sad about Boogie, was a fan of him years ago and it's really a good lesson to learn that you can fall from grace from any height.
i didnt ask, my content is better. ( just trying to see what its like to be a bot )
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
Bro you didn't even watch the whole video wdym
He used to be this sympathy merchant but was always a POS. Glad that his fake persona mask fell off.
@CrewmateComplexXPyou’re turd on the bottom of my shoe
Boogie is the walking example of “It takes more than being aware of your problems to solve them”
I dont know how many time i've argued with a previous friend i had about self-awareness. She'd tout herself as so self aware, but there would arill be problems. Idk how many times i said "self awareness is not the end of that road, its just the first step!"to her.
It doesnt help their - and Boogie's - narrative to see it that way tho. Their goals aren't to do better, it's to manipulate others.
I think shuffling is more accurate.
Who tf says this 💀💀💀
@@dillontoler4322okay kiddo
@@dillontoler4322your dog does
I never understood bragging about having sex with “L.A. 10’s” when they are only there for your money. I rather be with a 7 that actually enjoys my company.
Yeah it just seems so hollow and sad i dont really see the point
Imagine 😂
frankley i don’t give a rats ass what my partner looks like, so long as they are healthy and happy. i’ll always find them attractive so long as they’re at least a decent person
On this scale with which he measures women, he wouldn't make it to a one. We literally have to add decimals to the scale to accommodate him.
The fact that he judges women as "1 to 10s" speaks volumes alone.
I feel so bad for the interviewer. She genuinely wanted to help and he kept intentionally sabotaging it.
The team behind the documentary was also genuinely trying to help him. But he just sabotages all of it and claims to be a victim.
Yeah no shit hes depressed and lost everything its annoying how Charlie acts like you can just "fix it", thats not how depression work they cant fix years and years of depression by just going "ok well fix it right now in front of a camera lol" boogie needs mental health help or he will literaly end himself soon and has sui tendencies he needs mental health services not this
@@fellipedasilva99he also claimed that the whole interview was fake which I don’t believe at all
You can see her slowly losing her patience.
The job firm employee listening to Boogie list off all of the things that can be found when looking him up online is the pure epitome of 'excuse me what the fuck'.
"I have no work experience (even though he said he worked before)
"No references (again they could contact the place he once worked unless they closed down, but that was 17 years ago too)
"If you look up my name you may see rumors I beat my ex wife (excuse me?)
"And that I'm a pedophile (I mean, he admitted hes scared to have kids because he may 'touch them or harm them' since it happened to him (allegedly) growing up and he is scared of repeating the cycle, apparently)
@@shipper-of-heart8898 he's such a slave to his vices, specifically sexual urges, that I'd believe it.
If we go back in time thirty to thirty-five years, it's clear that Boogie9234whatever never had any discipline in his life. His parents probably bought him every new video game system and any toys or action figures he wanted, and his teachers never got on him for neglecting his schoolwork. There's such a stark contrast between how he interacts in a professional setting compared to how a refined academic markets himself to potential employers.
He's really the prime example of a waste of genetics. He just continues to run his life into the toilet while blaming everything else, all while not even looking at how his own attitude is causing it. She really said it perfectly. Basically that it's a state of mind, and if you're constantly negative, "I can't" becomes a reality.
He also says that he has 4 million subscribers... yippee. A whole 4 million people that go to your channel just to hate-watch, shame, belittle and insult you. That's something to give up the possibility of a real job with real money. What a joke of an excuse. His TH-cam career is the only thing in his life that's beyond salvage. He can still lose weight, find a job, make some actual money and make something of his life, but he just wants to live terminally online.
@@RobbieStacks90 I don't think he knew his dad. At least, he doesn't talk about him much. His mom was incredibly abusive. He definitely wasn't spoiled. He's one of the people who didn't make it through their childhood abuse.
Fair play to the job interviwer for immediately recognising what he was doing and shutting him down. He needs more people like her around him.
She doesn't need people like him tho. No one does.
I watched papa gut watch the whole doc and to be honest the interview and most other scenes are all clearly staged if u watch the full doc like he's in a job interview with a documentary camera crew
@@YoshisVinylIt literally says its not a real job interview and is a mock interview so he could practice the interview process.
@@YoshisVinyl It's not staged - it's a mock interview as Charlie explains in the video.
Boogie needs someone who will tell him the truth about things 😔 which is EXACTLY what he wants the least.
Bro is looking for LA 10s like he isn’t a Wyoming 1.3
Hey man don't do Wyoming like that
He’s an Arkansas 1.3.
@@TheFinanceman1985 Hey man don't do Arkansas like that
he's a Carolina 3.5
He'd be an LA -5
Macaulay Culkin got a job at Subway when he was down and out. Now he's back at making content and doing real well. It's astounding Boogie is this way.
At least now Culkin had a hot Asian wife to smooch on.
Mac is a real one. Whenever hes doing an episode with the Red Letter Media crew it puts a smile on my face.
Man went from no longer being a famous child star to spooning rich Evans and having kids with Brenda song
I feel really bad for the whole Mac thing, like many child stars his folks ripped him off.
Big W for him getting clean. That’s not easy at all
boogie saying someone else is “thicker than he’s used” is the most heinous example of irony i’ve ever seen in my life
lmaoo
Women are objects that he purchases, similar to a cut of steak
Its George Costanza refusing to date a bald woman.
@killkojo So he turned down thicc ladies for
slim ones, huh? How low of him.
Sooo rich coming from him
I feel as though the documentary is just another excuse to try to feel sorry for him. Like, who makes a whole documentary on someone's current self-destructive lifestyle? It's for pity, and instead of feeling sorry for himself, he should just try bettering himself and realize that it's never too late to start going forward in life.
I saw it as "look how crazy and sad this dude is"
Clearly not what he wants or he would
The real purpose of the documentary is for the guy who shot it to use this Boogie character's story to start a career.
Yep. Literally all Boogie cares about is food and getting people to feel bad for him.
The man's 600 pounds with fucking blood cancer there ain't much time left
You can genuinely hear the sadness in Charlie's voice...we all loved his videos at one point...sucks to see where he is now.
He would love the Middle East 😂😂😂😂 or Amsterdam
But he’s always been “here,” though, so it’s not like he’s only been in this place just recently, you know? Or it’s not that it sucks to see where he is *now* so much as it’s who he’s revealed himself to be, and mourning the kind of person many people thought he was up until now. So it feels more sad to have been so completely fooled by a freak like him. 😣
@@AllCloudsAreBunnies indeed, homie
Who??? Charlie or boogie lol
Charles White , 29 year old Floridian!
“I'm a 45 year old man who had never f’ed a model.” That’s normal, Boogie.
I'm a 23-year-old man who's never fucked anyone. Goddammit man, take what you can get.
But do you deserve it? He sure does
He said 48 btw
I never knew of Boogie enough to have an opinion on him- but now I certainly do 😬 poor baby, hadn’t slept with a single model?! How could this injustice happen to a guy as nice as he is?! 🙄
Average folks have a hard time admitting to themselves that they are average.
Boogie is the perfect example of what happens when you do everything except deal with your own trauma. He destroys everything he touches.
He desperately needs to get out of the public eye if there's ever going to be improvement, but hes addicted to the attention.
@@Uhhalrightigwoe*
@@Shmandalfnothing gonna change, you think he is the only person out there like that? World is literally filled with boogies
If by "everything he touches" you mean himself then yes 100%
@@Uhhalrightig I grew up with chronic, overpowering shame that I've carried with me to this day. I've done a lot of work on it, but it's still there. However, I've literally never had a "woe is me" attitude. Are you sure this is tied to shame, and not some other kind of issue (like narcissism)? Anyway, to the extent it is, it's certainly not a one-to-one relationship. My shame issues largely manifest as deserving of punishment, etc., but I never wallowed in my shitty situation or anything. To the extent I blamed anyone or anything, I only ever blamed myself. In general, I more just tried to escape it and avoid dealing with it or feeling it or acknowledging it. If anything, erred in the other direction ("i'm going to figure it all out, woe is not me" - even when this wasn't a realistic or helpful take).
I’m on probation at my job and have been feeling depressed about it, but seeing how much of a shitshow boogie and his life is and hearing Charlie say “you’re still alive, you can make things better” is unironically inspiring
I don't mean to sound negative, and I'm saying this as someone who manages others.
Nobody exits probation. Even if you do "check the boxes", you're out the next time there's a layoff first thing. Probation is a way to shield the company from liability.
So unless there is something specific that got you on probation (like you showed up drunk a bunch and are no longer doing that), it's your signal to look for another job...don't try to salvage this one, they already told you they don't want you there.
What you on probation for
Yea buddy if you are on a PIP or probation, you need to find another Job ASAP.
@@blackjackjesterbro, it's just your first 3 months. It's not deep
@@Keepitwarmer its probation is mandatory regardless of job?
I will say this, the filmmaker knocked the doc out of the park. So well put together.
Boogie being a live action Bojack Horseman is definitely a comparison i didnt expect to fit so neatly when observing his downward spiral
This is a great comment for those who romanticize Bojack and his lifestyle/personality
the thing is that with bojack you can argue that he DID go through a severe amount of abuse as a child and at points tried to be better even if he failed
boogie has actively lied about his childhood and gives up the second he has to take action and be accountable
@@zekeiwa5837ive said it once, ill say it again: Boogie is how people would have perceived Bojack had we didnt watch the entire show. We find it easier to sympathize with Bojack because we've seen his story, his intimate moments where he has the potential to be good but at the end of the day, is his own worst enemy. That's why the people who have watched the show, or at least some them, tend to romanticize him and/or believe and that he isnt so "bad".
But Boogie on the other hand, how a lot of people react to him now is how the people in the show reacted to Bojack after his 2nd interview. They dont know he had a shitty childhood, that he has issues and he's trying to be better, that when he did some of the worst things in his life, it wasnt out of malice or pure evilness. However, something crucial to remember is that you're not judged for your intentions, but for your actions and their consequences, and the show made that gradually clear as every episode passed by.
And even if Hollywoo did know about his sad life, it doesnt matter to them--without that connection the audience developed while watching the show, they find it easier to condemn him because the only thing that truly mattered at the end of the day was that Bojack still did those things, and no amount of tragic backstory is going to help erase or lessen the consequences of those actions.
And Boogie is the same thing.
@@bored_potato You defined this perfectly!
What’s the deal with everyone being compared to bojack lately?
I mean can he BEEEEE any more like bojack?
I'm a recovering addict. I had used since the 90s but in 2010 the love of my life (my wife) was killed when we were out taking a walk. A car ran off the road , missed me by inches and hit her. She died in my arms on the side of the road. That messed me up so bad and I spiraled down in my addiction. For years I blamed my wife's death for my bad decisions and drug use..one day I finally realized..she's dead..I need to stop blaming her and take some fucking responsibility for my choices..then I could finally make some changes and get some help...boogie is blaming everyone and everything around him for what's happening to him so he never has to take responsibility. Until he wakes up and takes some responsibility for his life he will never change
Hope you are doing better now! Thanks for sharing, and I believe you are correct.
She was fucking Mandingo on the side so dont worry, how do i know? I am Mandingo 😎🗿
That’s so awful, I’m so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you’re doing better and massive kudos to you for wanting to better yourself. ❤
Goodness gracious, I am so sorry that happened.
Thank you, for sharing.
I'm so sorry to hear that man, I hope you're doing better now. Honestly it's inspiring to me how you could find help and improve even in the deepest of places
The fact that his interview was insane. He sat and just gave her every reason possible to not hire him. He walked in and basically said he's a HR and PR nightmare. Yikes.
Many years ago I was out of work and the benefits people forced me to go to an interview for a job I did not want. I made sure I did not get that job by being honest about a few things I knew would make them not want me. It was a great tactic. What I said though was tame compared to Boogie and he literally brought up every single thing about himself that any self respecting employer would automatically say "nope".
Can you imagine being so entitled and out of touch that you think you could say that and still get hired? 😰
It was intentional. He never went there with any intention to get a job. He doesn't want a job.
Only reason he went there is for the entertainment of it and getting attention.
@OpalLeigh He sabotaged it on purpose so he can point at it and go "See? No one will hire me! I only beg online for money because there simply is no alternative!" Poor man-baby.
This hurts so much to say too as someone who used look up to Boogie 😥
this happens sometimes in sweden, if you dont have a job then the goverment forces you to search for jobs to and apply to them, if you dont do it they might cutt of your wwellfair checks you get from being unemployed. so some people that gets interviews to jobs they dont want do shit like this to stay on goverment payroll.
Agreed. The sex worker thing is gross and disgusting. The way he is talking and thinking about women, he deserves to be alone for the rest of his life. Sadly he found a damaged young soul with daddy issues he can exploit and manipulate. I hope his "girlfriend" gets out of this hell soon.
He’s gross
Wdym he deserves to be alone for the rest of his life?? Just for his views on women? Unhinged. Too far. He’s not beating them
@@moimoiyoop lesson learned finish the video before you comment kids lol
@@moimoiyoop it was actually pretty funny for me in real time cuz I knew I wrote that “it’s not like he beat anyone” triggered comment then 10 minutes later “I have a felony in aggravated assault”
@@MoneyIQOfficialabuse starts way before beating. He's not capable of having healthy adult relationships with women, the way he's talking about them. He doesn't see women as people, but as servants to pleasure him and work for him. He deserves to be alone.
Boogie would be one of the few people on this planet who, if you traveled back in time, showed him his future, and told him he could avoid this if he made better choices, he'd still willingly make the same mistakes and say, "Well, I can't avoid destiny."
💀💀💀
100%
You really can’t though lmao
This comment wins
@@skywayradio787 lol exactly. If anyone needs proof, you can't go back in time, that's the proof.
Boogie is a great example of what not to do when you achieve success on TH-cam.
I mean there are worse ways tbh (EDP)
i didnt ask, my content is better. ( just trying to see what its like to be a bot )
@@biban7990 bot
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
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It's creepy to see a guy being so 'honest' about what he wants and how he sees women, all without an ounce of shame or self awareness.
I mean why would he see women that way if he had any shame or self awareness?
This guy really is a special case and thank god that alot of men are not like him, but yeah I agree its pretty scary and disgusting even if I can't relate much because im a man, but if I was a woman im sure I would be much more terrified to see this
The tism is strong in boogie.
Its creepy and disgusting seeing how many women sell their bodies for strangers and open their legs for anyone
I think it's actually a good thing. Not many guys with that mentality would show it off as brazenly as this. He's basically waving a massive red flag in front of everyone's faces
I’m actually sad that I used to watch him. I can see why his wife left him now. Thanks for giving me some insight on to how much of a horrible person he is.
He used to be regarded as the nicest guy to be found anywhere. All he had to do was just be a good person and put out wholesome content.
The funniest part is how he says "I've never dated a model" as if that's something everyone gets to do but he wasn't allowed to. It was taken away from him.
Hes talking like he's a survivor or 9/11 or something. Like bro you're the one who took that away from you!!!
Why does that even matter lol
@@maineman5757wants stupid young people to feel sorry for him lol
Since he started the shallow conversation... someone like him should be glad he was able to even talk to a woman.
@@ToastyBB Lets be real here, surviving 9/11 is way smaller problem than surviving years of abuse.
Boogie is a huge example to everyone that TH-cam/influencer doesn’t last forever. You should be saving/planning for the future because it won’t last.
Disagree, Pewdiepie, Markiplier, Jacksepticeye, Critikal, etc etc
If your not a POS then you can make it last a damn long time
@@xxxsnippzzxxx9355 But it won't last forever
@@xxxsnippzzxxx9355ok, I agree, but you kinda went with the huge OG creators. Let's pick people more on Boogies size. Sam Strippin, Jesse Cox, Jirard the completionist Khalil, Crendor. These are smaller more on Boogies size creators, that have actually slaved away at trying to survive as creators for almost as long. Those others are so big that they could put out a video of them sleeping and it would be enough income for them to live off of for years.
Goes for every single career. You should be saving like you aren't going to be working that job in the next few years if you can. When something does go wrong then you have months to years to figure out a plan.
@@xxxsnippzzxxx9355those are a verrrry small minority of TH-camrs.
My jaw dropped at the interview portion. The fact that he went right in with "This is EVERYTHING under the sun thats wrong with me and EVERY reason you shouldn't get me a job" immediately was just.... jesus...
How not to do an interview. Like holy shit it's awful.
I don't see this as self-sabotage, more so as figuring it's all going to come out anyways when employers do background checks, so he may as well be honest upfront with the person whose job it is to find him work and try to see if anything can be done in spite of this. It's still all bad, but better to have it come from your own mouth than rumors from people who don't even know you.
@@Amins88 Plenty of people will see honesty as enough to make up for a million other flaws.
That, and self awareness is a step to improvement so he is demonstrating at the very least SOME progress down that path.
But that being said, this wasn't even a job interview. It was a staffing agency - they were asking about his history and where to place him in the job market. Everything he said is somewhat useful information for the staffer - she's motivated to find him a job anywhere, so she should know that information so she can find a reasonably suitable job for a person who is so unsuited to the job market.
@@BruceNJeffAreMyFlies It's tricky, because I definitely feel he has an incredibly defeatist personality and he's definitely not a great person. But I saw him in that interview and felt like he was laying it all out putting his faith in this person to work with him and she just laughed in his face. No wonder he decided to quit the job search.
@@BreadandButter333Jesus Christ on a stick, it is nothing like saying the n word.
It got a BUNCH of people talking about Boogie again. That's why he did it. He's in the entertainment biz, and even bad publicity is good publicity.
Boogie should leave the internet for good - dont feed the monster that says sorry more then the regular ähhh
Boogie's problem is he's comfortable.
He isn't changing because he's happy with how things are. His constant trauma dumping is less about actual pain and more about him loving the idea of defining his story as a tragedy.
I think this is an accurate assessment. Good stuff
He nailed it! That man has a ridiculous ego.
It’s the easy path honestly, he’d rather sit on his arse getting more unhealthy getting poorer and poorer till one day he dies and people see it as a tragedy as a man who at one point had it all and then lost the battle with his demons. The reality of the situation is this man refuses to put in the work and self restraint it would take to fix his life, he could take that money he’s blowing on screwing models and get a gym membership and a personal trainer, hell for the money he’s spent he could get someone to make healthy meals for him on a weekly basis (plenty of places offer these sort of services), he could start looking at what modern content creators are doing and revamp his channel to get viewers again (he has about 5mill subs but most of his recent video views are less than 50k) once he’s getting money from that he could then get in touch with a financial planner who can put his money in safer hands to mature and look after him so this doesn’t happen again and clear his debts.
@@citizen-7xl5 Did you not watch the documentary or are you doing a pointless what if scenario? He doesn't have any money left, he already lost it all from "screwing models" and a huge majority from investing in crypto like an idiot.
He hits the front page every couple years, and it's the same sad story every time. He doesn't want to change.
The most telling part of the whole thing is when Mike, the director, is forced to take a break to protect his own mental health. Being around someone like Boogie is so mentally draining. He is so toxic. So awful to be around. So hard to stomach. I've been in a relationship like that before. But yes, the doc is brilliant. And I think Mike Clum is going to produce some absolutely amazing content going forward.
I've seen a few people in the comments say they were in relationships like this. How does that even happen and why did you stay together? Seems baffling to me.
@drunkenhobo8020 people like this are very good at manipulating you into staying. My ex used to have full-on panic attacks if I tried to leave. It was like she couldn't even breathe.
A true energy vampire, indeed.
@@drunkenhobo8020I’ll give you a timeless classic of a reason: if you put a frog in boiling water, it’ll realize it’s too hot, and jump out. But, if you put a frog in normal water, and slowly turn up the heat, the frog won’t notice until it’s too late.
Manipulators like to hide the worst parts of themselves until they’ve got their claws in you.
@@drunkenhobo8020 I've been in a relationship like this as well. My ex threatened to kill herself in front of me if I left when trying to break up with her AFTER I found out she cheated on me. Some people are just crazy and toxic man.
Minor tip: depression must be taken seriously but try not to mention it in the first 20 seconds of a job interview.
so real i have a disability and mental illness but i sure sit. bring it up in the first part of the interview id be like ya it's a thing no worries
Exactly! I still struggle with depression, but I'm not just gonna go out and start a conversation with that, especially in a professional setting!
Oh everyone with depression knows this in their bones. Dropping that bomb that quickly is pure self-sabotage.
He let everything out like the mock interviewer was his therapist omg, an interview is like selling youself and he just kept going with the negatives it had me feeling depressed
I didn't watch him but I kinda understand the nuances of where the "he really likes being the victim card" comes from
Lol I mean that, also that if you google his name he pops up with wife beating and pedoph*le accusations, oh and that he’s done porn. He didn’t want a job and did what he does- self sabotage. He could have taken the route of “I built a well followed channel online I was able to monetize and maintain for 17 years”. Nope. “I haven’t had a job since 2006 and I’m also, as you can see, morbidly obese”. Just wildddd
Untreated mental trauma comes back in middle age. But as an adult he has to take charge, and not wallow.
I know this first hand. For the first time in my life, I love my life. I love this world.
It takes some of us decades to get over our adolescence.
I urge everyone to love yourselves. Self care is everything. Exercise, decent diet, and therapy! Therapy doesn't have to be sitting in an office talking to a therapist. It could be Yoga, or Tai chi. Anything that lets you center yourself and really think, and feel. Your life won't be perfect, but you'll be much more ready to deal with things as they come.
Sorry for the long comment. I'm just really passionate about helping those to get where I am without wasting so much time.
this documentary actually makes me want to work against becoming like boogie and improve myself out of spite
Fuck yeah dude
when you think you are the worst, remember you aren't _this_ bad
honestly same, if you think you have it bad just remember someone like him is way worse
Same here… I need to stop being the passenger of my I’ve, and start being the driver. Sending good vibes to whomever needs ‘em ❤
damn I relate to this comment so much 😹
The fact that Boogie had Diamond Dallas Page, a man who has his own yoga program and is well-documented in helping so many people and turning their lives around for the better, come in to help him with his weight loss and Boogie did absolutely nothing with it is the most telling thing when it comes to his health. The opportunity was right there and he threw it away.
Really? Where is this info so i can find it
@@Joey_YTMOn boogie's youtube channel
Ive seen this comment multiple times now wtf
@@Joey_YTM On Boogie's channel.
That was the exact moment when I gave up on Boogie
Boogie is a great example of how to piss away a good thing.
Bruh, all that money spent on sex workers could've been better spent on removing all the fat from his body with surgery at least, he had the opportunity to change his life for the better.
He did have surgery though. He just put all the weight back on due to lack of discipline.@@HanDaimond
@@HanDaimondThat can only get him so far. The guy lacks any morsel of accountability or discipline which would've ended with him regaining the weight in no time. He has a way far-gone "quitter" mentality and it's crazy that he hasn't gotten his shit together in his almost 50 years of life.
If i remember correctly he was very critical of Wings of Redemption and it’s ironic to see them go down very similar paths. Despite Wings being a living example of what not to become for him.
Reminds me of fousey. But fousey got the grind down.
I still remember back in 2018 he was Mr Roger of the TH-cam. Everyone look at him on such high regard and he had massive 500k annual income. Every day, he received a gifts from his fans and subscribers. It need special talent to fuck it up.
I was having a shitty couple of weeks, but hearing charlie say "Youre still alive, you can fix this," was pretty motivating
Hey there, random interwebs person here. Just here to say I hope things start to look up for you.
Be blessed....get blessed.
Do it. Now. THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
ok. I'm done. Feel better homie
same, i just lose my only friend who make me truly happy due to my insecurity
controversies like these make me really wish I wasn't alive.
Same. It’s blowing my mind
and cringy people like Nancyreiderlittlegranny also make me feel that way.
You can't help someone that absolutely refuses to help themselves. His ego is outright embarrassing. You can't even feel bad for the guy if you tried.
right? he doesnt want to get better and thats his problem
I still feel bad for him.
You can *_absolutely_* feel bad for people like this if you have a heart.
_Literally nobody_ chooses to be like this. Do you actually think he woke up some day when he was a kid and thought _"fuck it, I'm going to become an obese depressed man with a shitty childhood who gets addicted to everything and can't control his eating and spending and has a trashy selfish attitude"?_
I don't think having had a dogshit life is an _"excuse"_ or a free card to act like a douchebag, but if people like this straight up had the choice to have a better childhood or to have had it easier to avoid giving into cravings and avoid depression etc. etc. they *_absolutely_* would've made that choice.
You can feel bad for people while still punishing/condemning their actions. Again, nobody is actively _"chosing"_ to be like this before they're already most of the way there. If you were him, had his brain, body and upbringing/environment you would've become the exact same person...and I would've felt sorry for you as well.
@@handsomebear.I disagree, it’s not his situation that makes him impossible to pity, it’s his arrogance. He didn’t chose to be like this but he is, and he’s choosing to stay that way. There’s no reason to feel pity, if he wishes to remain unchanged then so will my opinion of him, it’s not cold, merely fair if anything
@@boo9781 Sounds like you don't understand what extremely bad mental health does to someone. If recovering was so easy, people wouldn't be having such a hard time with it. It's not a flip of a switch.
He should serve as a deterrent example of being terminally online.
Anyone can and will become a Boogie if they completely lose themselves on social media.
It’s pretty obviously more to do with the intense childhood trauma and being 600 pounds for his entire adult life
@@orangutanenthusiast5631 Boogie's sister had poked holes in his childhood abuse story.
@@SerpentineJack99 abuse victim frequently belittle and deflect the severity of the abuse they were subjected to so I would be hesitant to so I would be skeptical on the surface of her claims anyway but, even if this was the case, he clearly has some deep rooted trauma from somewhere otherwise he wouldn’t be 600 pounds. There is literally no one who is not deeply flawed and suicidally depressed who stays at his weight bracket as long as he has.
@@orangutanenthusiast5631 A bit odd then that boogie doesn't deflect the severity then, huh. He used to love talking about exactly how severe it was. Watch his draw your life or one of his h3h3 podcast appearances. If those things truly happened to him, he wouldn't be so cavalier about it. He just loves having a woe is me excuse for every one of his one shortcomings. There comes a time when you have to start blaming yourself for what bad actions you make in life. Or in boogies case inaction.
@@SerpentineJack99theyre talking abt boogies sister deflecting as an abuse victim, not boogie himself
11:50 you're usually asked to disclose any crimes or things that might be turned up in a background check
I never seen someone so publicly proud about all the horrible things they did in their life
Bro you didn't even watch the whole video wdym
I mean another example is Elon Musk
Spending 200k on hookers is crazy, admitting to it online is fucking wild
@@armorofgod777lmfaoo fr though he over here bullshitting
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
My favorite part was when they were interviewing an escort he had previously hired, and she legit said, "Sleeping with Boogie was the reason I quit sex work"
Fucking Christ.
HELP?!
Boogie probably transmits STDs through telepathy
Was it in the documentary or somewhere else ?
In the doc
He transformed into the person his abusive mother told him he was. What a wild ride. He never got over his mom's stuff, and then by luck fell into a windfall and blew it all away. Abusive childhood + mental disorder + narcacissm is a terrible cocktail.
Family trauma is not something you simply "get over". Especially when it's an all the time thing, and not one horrible event.
You talk like mental health is not a thing that exists.
@@pairot01 I realize why Boogie was likely molded by his abusive mom. I also had an abusive mom and she died before we could reconcile. I miss her, but my life would be worse if she still had influence on it. Her parents made her that way. I don't call them my grandparents because they are so bad. They sculpted her into a manipulative monster. My grandmother is alive and grandfather died from COVID because he thought the government was out to get him but he got the cough and died. He also held my mom's grave hostage.
My mom kinda ruined my family.
@@pairot01 the issue is “age” and “accountability” at what point do we acknowledge that a person’s problems and issues are their own. Is society supposed to just accept a person doing shitty things to others just because they had a shitty childhood? What if they murder someone in cold blood? Do we still attribute it to trauma?
If an adult still struggles with their past that fine but that doesn’t excuse them of their actions
If its a teen or a kid in a similar circumstance, sure, they’re young and immature
@@pairot01 Mental health issues are not your fault, but they are your responsibility. Nobody is saying it doesn't exist, they're saying he's making it everyone else's problem and doing nothing to help himself. He's taking no actual accountability for himself or the things he's said/done, and that's the problem.
I feel bad for Boogie, he had a shit childhood, and if even half of what he said about his mom is true then she was an absolute monster that no child should have had to endure. I feel bad for him, but I don't feel sympathy for him though, because I also see he's not doing anything to help himself despite seemingly being aware of his mental issues and being handed opportunity after opportunity to get the help he knows he needs but throwing it away constantly. And now he's dragging down a clearly mentally damaged girl barely out of high school with daddy and abandonment issues, and using his health problems as a way to manipulate and keep her on the hook until he dies because he's so selfish and views women as tools, not people.
Always someone transform you better or bad person in your life. Just like what art Teacher did to Hitler.
The worst thing that happened to boogie was social media. Everyone thought he was a nice guy then he started streaming on twitch and he started tweeting and everyone got to see who he really was.
Boogie is the embodiment of 4chan and Reddit in a single being.
Lord knows he's big enough to encompass two whole websites.
Way back when he still had a positive rep I talked to him on neogaf. He came across as a passive aggressive piece of shit. I knew at that point he was going to take himself down in flames.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
That summed him up pretty well, surprisingly.
That's not fair.
4chan gets stuff done on the odd occasion.
What people don't realize is Boogie's depression and lack of self confidence is an act. The real Boogie was in the voice mail.
it is all part of his core depravity..the fact he believes it is all about himself. the voice mail was a way to get the attention he is addicted to.
@@PickleAllergy It must be tough to be one of the greatest of TH-cam at some point and then going into a continual downfall with no apparent end to it.
@awhellnah__ I've never really watched him. But he's for sure one of the OGs.
@@dennisddt1146thats why hes allowed to be a vamp. He's delusional and thinks his cod rage is worthy of legacy
Depression and egotism are not incompatible with each other. If anything they often go together.
i met Boogie several times at conventions between 2013 and 18. 13-17 he was amazing. he was so down to earth and friendly. he remembered me and several other people. he asked about how certain things were going in my life, etc. he was very generous with his time talking to everyone. and all the other guests at this convention gushed about what a great guy he was. you couldn't find anyone who would say a bad thing about him. 18 just didn't feel the same. he made some comments about his ex that kinda sat weird with me (though i dont remember the exact comment just, that it felt weird coming from him) as well as a few other things. again, I don't remember everything he said but, a lot of it just felt really.....off. i stopped following him as much then. always wanted to believe maybe he was just dealing with some shit and was in a rough patch. that the Boogie id met and talked to so many times before would come back, but he never did. its really sad to see how far he has fallen. makes me wonder how much of those interactions was genuine if any of it was.
narcissists are so good at making you see the good person they want you to see. makes your skin crawl now doesn't it
What if he was genuine but did loose himself??
He is a very clear narcissist and they tend to be charming on the surface.
It’s always been a farce
I think he was always an asshole. But before he got divorced the mask fell off.
"i don't want no Arkansas 8s. i want LA 10s! give me LA 10s! that's what i want!"
Boogie is beyond saving at this point...
Hell, I'd give my left pinky for an Iowa 6.
@@NJGuy1973 or the West Virginia 2
The insane thing is Boogie has actual skills. He has over a decade of video editing and graphic design experience. He could easily get a job as a video editor anywhere.
"He could easily get a job as a video editor anywhere."
Not after the prospective employer sees this footage. Nobody in their right mind wants their business associated with somebody like him. He admitted to being a ped0, ffs. I sure as hell wouldn't hire the guy.
Airing his own filthy laundry online to the point where he's become famous has obliterated any chance he has of ever getting a normal job.
...dude, have you seen his videos and thumbnails? I could literally do better and so could you. He's lazy and he refuses to even attempt to get better. 10+ years on TH-cam and look at him, the worst thumbnails ever with spelling errors on all of them, and click bait.
Yeah but I mean real talk his best bet is probably to get hired for TH-cam editing right? Boogie is pretty TH-cam famous for all the wrong reasons. So do we really think he'll easily find an editing job at least on TH-cam? Otherwise he has to try and find someone outside of TH-cam to do editing for. Which while possible means having to look which I'm guessing is a whole no go for him. Not defending him at all just trying to realistically talk about the odds of it actually happening.
Bro, these skills are in the process of getting automated.
Would you hire a morbidly obese felon with a track record of failing to meet deadlines for every sort of thing imaginable from video posting to losing weight? Not to mention the crutch of pleading disability, depression and everything else he'd cry as stumbling blocks to avoid personal accountability.
He addressed this video on Twitter by hiding behind his so-called cancer diagnosis (which was mysteriously never mentioned in this documentary). This guy is unbelievable. He used to use his childhood abuse as a shield, mental health as a shield, he then used s**cide as a shield and now he's using cancer of all things to try and deflect backlash. Once you know his tactics, he is so transparent and irredeemable.
Hey you can't say that he has the tism so it's okay.
Also now he is blind and crippled. So even more victim points
He didn't mention his CANCER or AUTISM in this documentary for some strange reason, two of his most serious conditions that should be very easily proven... Just so happens these two are the two most rumored to be 100% fabricated by Boogie as well, big surprise there folks!
The place he claimed he got the tism diagnosed from doesn't do ANY autism testing whatsoever, let alone for adults. He's a fat liar, full stop, end of story.
It was actually mentioned when he was saying all his medical problem but it is glissed over
The only one who can redeem him now is Jesus, I hope boogie finds Him before it's too late.
@@ydowgen The cancer mentioned in the documentary is actually referring to a cancerous mole he had cut out about 20 years ago. There's no mention of the alleged cancer he is claiming to be suffering from right now, which is interesting because he's magically feeling the affects of it now that he's receiving backlash!
I actually genuinely feel SO bad for the interviewer, but her responses totally destroyed and I'm so happy about that!
She was such a professional, extremely impressive
Since it was a mock interview she is probably used to a lot this stuff. This woman was an absolute professional.
I don't feel bad for her in the slightest. That's what she gets paid to do. I had to remind a student the other day that I'M the teacher. We do it my way, or it's the highway, and you can moan and pout and shoot TikTok videos all you want, but you're going to listen when I'm teaching. You have to be authoritative with this generation. Snatch the phone and get them to pay attention. Worry about the parents later.
@@RobbieStacks90 if a kid wants to be on the phone and not pay attention let em, they won't be paying attention anyways if you take their phones away.
@@pinoarias8601 We need to give these students the discipline they aren't getting at home. Students from Japan, Singapore, and India have been scoring higher on standardized testing than American students over the past couple of decades. The only way to reverse this trend is to make our students pay attention, even if draconian measures are required.
Hearing charlie say "he's taking the piss" as 11:13, being british I couldn't help but laugh.
Probably the first time I've heard an American use that term.
I laughed too, and came looking for this comment
He implies his ex wife was an “Arkansas 8”?! She’s an easy 10/10 just for living with him as long as she did. Absolutely creep and scumbag. He deserves his failure.
For many years after his divorce he basically blamed her for how miserable he was and that he wanted to die. Now he acts like she doesn’t exist. And I think we can all see now why she divorced him.
You're right, he should have been kissing the ground she walked on, because who else was going to be with him at his biggest?
@@LocklearFan-hc3eiI hope you can recover from whatever stroke you had typing that
I’ve seen pics of her and she’s quite stunning actually but what mind blows me is that he actually called her on stream to ask if she “cucked” him like WTF
Surprised she even put up with him for that many years and the same with his current gf. I can’t imagine being with someone who always quits before even starting and whining their life is shit.
Can't wait for Boogie to make a "response" video talking about how he's gonna ignore the "haters" while actively engaging with said "haters" and play the victim for the one billionth time
He says he's not longer going to talk about his personal life and then 2 days later films a house tour
Boogie always ignores his haters! Until he doesn’t.
@@Happy93930LMAO
I think you mean 2nd billionth time
Dragonlord Modus Operandi
It was definitely eye opening. The fact they had to take a break recording because it was too depressing for the team is insanity. He’s a joy succubus, whose sole drive is making everyone feel miserable for him.
Literally
He’s a psychic vampire
You’re totally right
@@angussneef He's like the energy vampires from "What we do in the shadows"
That reminds me of that episode of the Boondocks where a documentary host keeps trying to interview Huey and his absolute apathy due to "Retiring" starts to make the guy miserable just sharing the room with him.
Lesson: don't rely on Social Media and Gaming for your income.
Especially if you're dodging the IRS!
Boogie’s problem is that he is someone who tries to be a coach but hasn’t gotten his life together.
A woman In the documentary said that she quit sex work immediately after having sex with Boogie. That may just be one of the greatest burns of the next 1000 years right there if you ask me
“Sex work” 🙄
Yes that's an umbrella term for any job in the sex industry , if someone sells feet pics they are a sex worker, per example @@FirstLast-db1uf
@@FirstLast-db1uf was she secretly not having sex??
@@FirstLast-db1ufwdym?
@@FirstLast-db1ufI'm willing to believe that just finding Boogie's penis in the first place is A LOT of work.
Watching that part with the mock interview, it made me realize that Boogie is an emotional vampire. Every talk with him becomes a woe-is-me-I’m-the-victim-I-hate-myself session. I know someone like this in real life and it is exhausting
Exactly. Misery loves company.
I used to watch his videos all the time, and this is pretty much exactly what made me stop watching his content or even liking him as a person. Every once in a while he'd post a video on how he was going on another diet to lose weight and a few months later would post another video on why he failed it again and how it wasn't his fault but his mom's for how shitty his childhood was.
😂😢😮
Colin Robinson
typical narcissism, always been
omg this guy is totally an energy vampire. He drains everyone around him and feeds off their energy. You could literally see that interviewer go from "I'm excited to help you!" to "Dear god, I've made a horrible mistake, how do I get out of this room?" And I'm guessing that is how every single interaction with him goes. Once people truly stop listening to him and giving him attention, he will have all the excuse to finish his story in a terrible way, and thereby confirm he is the ultimate "victim" of a cruel and uncaring world. This isn't a person, it's a walking bag of neuroticism heading for a cliff.
😂, “ Hi how are you” “ I am 400 pounds, I’m disabled, I have no references, no education, no work history, no drive, if you Google me I beat my ex wife?! 😂 wtf is wrong with this person.
well said
5:43 "no one is entitled to anything, other than a knuckle sandwich if you start calling me short." -charlie 2023
At 5'6, 160 pounds, he's not intimidating many, lol 😂
@@Bullboy_AdventuresIdk, I've seen short guys whip the shit out of people twice their size.
I burst out laughing when boogie was being interviewed and suggested his experience in the porn industry could be used as work experience
Supposedly it was something to do with software, so of all things, it actually could! Imagine that resume lol
How the fuck did he even get to the interview step lmao
I was in "Fat Guys and Midgets 11: Donkey Show Surprise". That should help me out with getting a job right?
@@HonsHonMike (the creator of the documentary) set Boogie up with a professional staffing agency. That’s how.
It was in the fat guys trying to find their dick category.
Interviewer: Ok, let's get this job interview started.
Boogie: Sure thing, let me IMMEDIATELY enumerate every single reason why hiring me would be a terrible idea.
Not even that, it's like he went into an interview and started ranting about "we live in a society"
Almost like he's self sabotaging because he doesn't want a job
He'd have been better off reciting Emmet's speech from The Lego Movie
@@miguelzurita3216 Joker would look at Boogie and say "I'm a complete psychopatch, but what the fuck is wrong with you?".
Even someone criminally insane has more morals than Boogie, hell, Joker actually was able to get a normal job in some comic stories, he's already better off than Boogie.
If they were gonna find out anyway, he might as well just be honest 🤷🏼♂️
Boogie is what happens when you get comfortable making excuses for yourself and decide to wallow in self pity instead of working on change
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@@clursunny?
well said
Most mentally ill people are terrible at helping them self, because they’re mentally ill, if they could help them self then they often wouldn’t be considered mentally ill, hence why therapy and medication are such big things and why suicide and being sectioned isn’t that uncommon
Its already too late he lost his viewership and his money theres no revering from that
You can’t help someone if they won’t help themselves
Boogie really lived long enough to become the villain in his story
@CrewmateComplexXPits honestly pathetic how you just comment some bullshit on how you say your better then him like your a bot so people can subscribe.
@CrewmateComplexXPnah
And that’s why I ain’t hatin he just doing all the routes.
It’s shocking really, dude probably hasn’t seen or tied his shoes in years and is still among the living.
Apparently he's always been like this. He was just good at hiding it for a long time.
I've dealt with people who share a similar defeatist attitude. They are so convinced that their life sucks and will never get better that they do absolutely nothing to help themselves. It's sad. It's never too late for anyone.
His attitude in that documentary was so incredibly sad
Agree. I had a similar attitude towards life as boogie/wings. I started doing the most basic of stuff like going for walks and getting coffee and now life feels much better. Mindset is everything.
Never say never
except there are situations where it's impossible to get better ...Trust me,people like you who don't have a clue of how bad life can get would most likely be even more of a defeatist if you happened to be in that person's position.
@@rokanza2293 I am acutely aware of how hard life can get. Main thing is to focus on what you can change, not on what you can't change. Life can get hard, but historically it could be much worse. We could have been literal slaves or born into some ISIS controlled village in the middle east. But here we are watching videos of boogie on TH-cam.
@@methylphenidate69 My friend,I am not even kidding that perhaps being a slave would be easier than what I am going through for a long period of time lol. At least being a slave without serious mental health issues like I do, my life for the past 4 years was mostly torture and me trying not to kill myself and appear as though nothing is happening and try to be as functional as I can and accomplish what is possible under such circumstances.
It’s so sad to see where boogie is now. I used to watch him all the time when I was younger.
ify , i used to like his game reviews until it turned into him begging ALL THE TIME
NO WAY, I JUST MET CHARLIE ON MY TH-cam! 100% REAL! (OMG HE JUST CAME TO MY HOUSE AT 3 AM!)😱💯
@@CJfromMEXICObegging lmfao. What like every youtuber does with begging for subs and likes every video. Ya it's pathetic af. Imagine begging for anything lmfao
Jesse weighs in was awesome
Yeah this is a trend. Soon enough we'll realize everyone sucks, and it all comes to light later.
That mock interview part was incredibly painful to watch. He HAS to be some sort of masochist. This is unreal.
Had a girlfriend like this before I met my current wife.
No matter how much effort i put in, no matter what I did to try to better our lives and our situation she was always ready at a moments notice to rip it down and pull the anxiety and depression card. We couldnt even talk normally and have a typical conversation because the moment I'd try to relieve some stress from my day by either talking about it or just unwinding with a hobby, she'd immediately turn it on its head.
You can only help people who want to help themselves, and when people dont want to help themselves, theres nothing you can do.
Damn man im similar with your ex and was the very same reason why she broke up with me recently because of self pity and depression which i ended up emotionally hurting her, i had so much regrets and made me realize that i should learn to love and improve myself first :(( not being a defeatist
Same. Over 10 years. I figured after the breakup, she'd be happy, especially with how much she made me feel I held her back so much. Nope, she's just a miserable person.
@@サリエリ-q5g It can make depression worse
@@サリエリ-q5g having a bf/gf doesn't magically make the chemicals in your brain start working properly lmao
@@サリエリ-q5gwhat?? Lmao are you that lonely?
Fully expect a self pitying direct reply to this video from Boogie
“Thanks for your video man. It’s a fair summary. To this day I see myself as a work in progress and I’ll keep trying hard to be better. Much love. Boogie xx”
Holy shit that is spot on how he'd reply. Like, 100% accurate to a T
Much of the internet community supported Boogie for MANY years, giving him advice, encouragement etc. he took it and threw it in the garbage and spent all the money. Thanks man. It’s hard to be a fan.
Thing is if you look at the only other person on the internet who self sabatoges this much (Christian Weston Chandler) They are mentally disabled to where its debated they can live on their own. They have the worst circumstances and may have even been groomed. But somehow Boogie manages to in volume make even worse choices than CWC does. its insane.
I remember when I was a kid I used to like watching boogie for mainly gaming takes and some other random stuff, and I still remember his "...coming at you through the power, of the internet" and what a nice part of my childhood on yt he was. I haven't really followed his situation in years and I can barely stomach finding out just what went wrong
We can thank boogie for being a living example of a life you should not have
Amen
Chris Chan
@@HanHonHon That's a life that should never have even been considered.
@@HanHonHonthere can be multiple examples
Steven said Boogie is who I want to be Francis is who I am
This is a mentality I used to have when I was a child.
"If something doesn't go my way, I'll make sure everyone knows how upset and terrible I am so that they feel pity for me and give me my way."
I feel like that could also apply to Twitter and social media in general.
I'm glad his ex wife is free. Imagine everything she put up with behind closed doors.
Wow.🎉🎉🎉 that's actually a good point
she’s an idiot to get with him in the first place same as his gf
Yeah, that "i deserve" diatribe at the beginning of thia video was probably constantly repeated to her
He's going out with a 20yo now...
@@ackmandesu8538yummy
Boogie at the interview was basically "Generally, employing me is the worst thing you could ever do. Want to try?"
Original documentary: 3.8 million views
Guy talking and adding nothing about the original thing: 5.8 million views
The look on Mike's face after Boogie tells him he's not going to get a real job kills me every time
😂had to laugh at this.
The look of a man who has just found a large turd in his pool before a morning swim.
nice profile picture man
Do you have a timestamp for this? I must've missed it or looked away for a sec
God as someone with depression I also have the "I can't, I can't, I can't," mentality. But damn. I'm not as bad as this guy when it comes to self sabatoge. This video gave me hope because no matter what, I'll never be as bad as this dude.
dangerous mentality. you CAN become like boogie. be careful its a slippery slope. Don't let it happen man stay up
“You suffer more in imagination than in reality”. Just because you think it, doesn’t mean it’s true. Go out there and improve your character brother, don’t worry about the past or the future, live in the present
@@mav.-that now how it work that like just telling addict to stop taking drug
@@kevinc.cucumber3697if you homeless just buy house, easy right
Like at least I'm not going to use it specifically as an excuse to alleviate any kind of responsibility that my own actions hold. That interview section was of the most second hand embarrassing things I've ever listened to.
That interview is the perfect comparison between someone that's terminally online and someone that's actually lived a normal, well adjusted life. Say whatever you want about "the normies", but she nailed down Boogie's problems and confronted him head-on about it over the course of a single minute.
Meanwhile, Boogies is still stuck in that endless spiral, wasting his life away worrying about what strangers online think about him, and somehow thinking that's better than just a normal job somewhere.
Average is average because it works. Unlike Boogie lmao
Thank you for regurgitating something that was obvious in the documentary and something Penguin said himself. You're a brillant man.
you could’ve just said that boogie is a lolcow and is similar to wingsofredemption & we would’ve gotten that lmao
Yeah i was surprised she actually went that route and actually confronted him. There was no babying or infantilizing (which was might Boogie likely expected whenever he dumps... whatever he just dumped on someone). She said it best, might be obvious but it's an important thing to realize nonetheless: if your main approach is to constantly think that you can't, then you definitely can't.
@@theloanranger2632thank you for being about as useful as a twisted fork pointing out how someone is "pointing out the obvious"
Jesus christ
Boogie is the embodiment of that Psychicpebbles bit of a random guy describing all his ailments on camera
Seeing Boogie's failed interview makes me feel better about my own failed job interviews.
"7 years in porn industry"
"Experience is experience."
LOL
He self sabotaged. He started off his exp, but went on to list the flaws
yeah im surprised how naive people are. he was obvious doing that on purpose to show "see i cant get a normal job".. pathetic @@leeweesquee
I can't help but think this is how a lot of people conduct their interviews. The "I can't" mentality is so prevalent out there. I swear I see at least one viral post a week from some person with a mild disability claiming they just simply can't work and the world is against them.
Yup. He did this obviously intentionally so he could just point and say, "see, I can't get a real job. I have all of these issues and it just isn't feasible for me." He is addicted to feeling sad and having everyone feel sorry for him.
I struggle a lot with self-degrading thoughts in times when I’m sad, angry, frustrated, etc., and I get intrusive thoughts that are basically the exact same things Boogie says about himself. “I can’t “I can’t” “I can’t” “It’s too late” “There’s nothing I can do”.
Seeing him like this is almost like looking into another timeline for me. I can’t help but wonder if I could have ended up just like Boogie if I gave in to those awful, terrible thoughts.
It's okay to have those thoughts sometimes, especially when upset. In fact, most people do. The difference between you and Boogie is that you didn't surrender to them, and he did. It's sad to watch a person throw their life away, but it seems to me there's a part of him that feeds on the negative attention it gets him. I'm a stranger, but I'm proud of you for not giving in. You didn't end up like him, and you won't.
You’re stronger brother, if he is strong enough to ever get where you are in life then he’s succeeded. You’re beautiful brother keep going
For me, it's kinda like I'm at a crossroads between fully giving up on life like he did vs continuing to try and make things better. I've been stuck in the self degrading "I can't I can't I can't" mindset for like 4 years now, and while I do have genuine barriers, none of them are nearly as big as the way I treat myself. I'm only 22, and somehow it feels like my life is over already, which is absolutely ridiculous. I have no reason to think that way.
How do you break out of shit like this? I'm so pissed off at myself for being my own worst enemy, and for not taking responsibility, yet I STILL haven't done anything about it. I just sleep all day and play videogames all night. Which obviously doesn't feel fulfilling, but I don't even know what would be fulfilling
Boogie is just an awful person. So it’s 100% likely u wouldn’t. Boogie even admited years ago having grape fantasies about his sister and his mom. He’s just a sick headed individual who thinks that his fame or the fame he had is an excuse to being a degenerate
@@rileymachelle4088i feel like it’s mostly the pressure we put on ourselves to do something bigger. We r subconsciously comparing ourselves to our peers and feel like we are falling behind. While what we may do on our free time isn’t productive if it’s fulfilling to US then it’s okay, as long as you try working on balancing it more with other stuff in life
Saying "im disabled and extremely depressed" two seconds into a job interview is insane 💀
It's the look at me I'm a victim, so feel sorry for me and give me everything so I don't have to work for it mentally.
Charlie has instantly noticed it: Boogie deliberately sabotages the interview. It's not like he says all this stuff because he is unaware of how it may come off, it's the opposite. He knows really well how she will perceive him
She works for a hiring agency to help him find a job with another company. I'm sure it's not the first time she's had somebody bring in a Boogie who just wanted to come in to try to make her say that there was no way he could ever get a normal job and that he was totally helpless. That's why she didn't play around
@@DaniStone17 Exactly. Being honest with her so she can find you someone who fits the bill is exactly what you should be doing. Now I do agree Boogie had no intention of actually getting a job and would have sabotaged it anyways, but it'd be like hiding things from your doctor. They're there to help you
@@fettigeredgar eh no the interview was obviously content done for the documentary. Charlie just feels the need to pretend like we can't tell that they're filming a scene.
the "talking out of the grave" aspect or also the "if only i HAD done xyz" i can atleast relate to that part, its virtually impossible to bring up the the amount of motivation and determination to change something when you cant even manage to care anymore about anything really, ive been struggling with it for years now and i just cant
just wow, this man used to be my hero... I can't believe I used to defend this man.