How is this band DOMINATING the Metal Scene?
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How is this band dominating the metal scene? - Nik talks about the recent success of Thrown despite having on a small amount of music released.
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Already did about a year ago
I slapped it a little too hard this time. Thrown made me do it. 🤘
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No i don't think so
Buster boy really be cooking
People saying they didn’t earn it naturally sort of is like saying Falling in Reverse didn’t grow naturally. Of course it’s natural, it’s just expedited because you have known people with followings in the group. Slaughter to Prevail would not be at the level they are today without Alex and his crazy following before that project really took off.
As a music enthusiast, I find it really heartbreaking to see this trend going against Albums... like I Love it when an artist puts out an entire album and you listen to it start to finish and you can see the reason why they chose the trackless the way they did maybe the cover art or the music video or the main single all tie in together and create a cohesive listening experience..like a painting in a museum..u don't wanna see half of the Mona Lisa and say "Im good" no you wanna see the whole thing in relation to each other! That's why I love Sleep Token so much because they have been doing that but for their entire discography so far! Specially with Take Me Back to Eden, the whole album is one major experience and the songs have more impact when you know the context of everything. Fuck even just the Summoning or Take me Back to Eden as a song itself is an experience (that's why its fucking 8:20 mins long)... they almost fuse the idea behind what an album is into their singles and hope to cater towards both an audience and the algorithms...
I encourage you to try Odyssey To The West by Slice The Cake then. It's a freaking monster in terms of storytelling.
@@Kyuken_C yo another STC fan in the wild!
Yeah, the way things are going, we're never getting another Black Parade, are we?
Same !! I also listen through whole Albums and often some buried track number 6 or something is a real gem because its a bit more experimental or atypical. And you realise that they did not want this to be the first impression people have of the album but you are happy you discovered that nuance of their sound. Also, if bands wouldnt make albums, we wouldnt have amazing art like the new King Lizard and the gizzard wizard, which just needs that kind of room.
Absolutely agree. I love listening to entire albums. They have a certain energy to them, they're like an artgallery. You can listen to one piece alone or just listen to the entirety and create an own understanding to it.
Also I collect both CD's and Vinyl and in today's age nobody makes single lp's so it sucks to not be able to get some music on analogue.
I love albums. My playlist is full of albums, and if I start an album, I listen to it all the way through. I don't mind singles, and some singles are particularly awesome. But albums are my preference.
I heard about thrown from Nik and listened to it in my English class for the first time.
ISS was nice that day.
Sometimes I play singles, it gets me hyped. sometimes I play albums for the vibes, the trip, the experience as a whole. We're only humans and that's perfectly fine
People always complain about this, but good music gets discovered. Short songs, long songs, whatever. All their songs are bangers, that's why they're popular.
honestly this is true, but on darkos self titled album there were so many songs that went unnoticed and all of them hit so hard. I feel like no one had listened to The Last of Us from their self titled album.
For me it's Daniel. Not much recognition, even with Courtney LaPlante. So underrated.
Daniel is one of my favorite Darko songs, its if Donna had a breakdown@@TheLP98
Bro... Fiend Dream is a masterpiece and I've never seen anyone talking about it
Darko's self titled is fucking goated, imo their best release so far.
Yeah that album is full of bangers but they get outshined by Praise the Sun. That song is diabolically good is beyond my comprehension considering how simple the songwriting is lol
I fucking love gray out
Went to check them out on Spotify and noticed I already have some songs liked. Fuck'n good choice past me.
Wish boundaries got the same love
Man, it makes me sad. Vildhjärta is such a pretty sounding name in Swedish but the way everyone makes it sound is so awful.
Vawl-jarta is so awful man 😂
They came up in my recommended shuffle. They fuck.
And fuck hard...
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@@themcabbages77the only correct answer
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I think the best way to do it is releasing alot of singles but still making listening to the whole album worthwhile. Lorna Shore did it with Pain Remains, Mental Cruelty did it with Zwielicht. Both dropped alot of INSANE singles, but the "flow" of the full album made it worth listening to anyways.
Songs are short and straight to the point. Pissed off and all the songs rip
Crazy how Sleep Token can also find success doing a similar but opposite thing of putting an entire EP's worth of short tracks into one single track and then release 4 singles like that leading up to a full album release.
Sorry if I'm slow, but that first thing is confusing me. It they took an entire EP, how did it suddenly become a single instead of just still being the EP?
@@perlundgren7797 I think it might become clearer to you if you listen to one of their 7-8 minute tracks. Some of them do sound like 3 different songs or 3 versions of the same song combined into one track.
@@The5thColumn Oh, you meant like that. I just took your comment a bit too literally and thought one of their singles was some kind of rereleased version of an EP. 🙂
Yall want a single?
I found thrown by accident. And thought it was really fucking cool. I had no idea they had this following and ESPECIALLY didn't know Buster had anything to do with it.
I prefer listening to a whole Album instead of just a few Singles. A Band only releasing Singles is fxcking boring to me.😂 You should bring out one Single before the Album and then some more Singles from the Album the next few months, but do a Video to every Song, at least as a lyrics Video and treat every Song like a Single, even if a Song isn't a Single. That's how it works. Besides, never listened to a Single song from Thrown😅
Thrown is my absolute favorite band. It's something new and groovy. I love it.
Ngl I was thinking boundaries would be “dominating” rn because of the hype I’ve seen around them but holy moly 1 mil is CRAZY for thrown they are sick too
I’m just now getting on the Boundaries bandwagon, and I completely get the hype; Boundaries fucking rips. Their newest album is so dark and introspective, and it all hits me in the same way as some of the best Counterparts material. God I hope they really pop off some day.
Boundaries rules fucking hard, new album is a banger
@@djentrification1631 that counterparts comparison is on point, i just got into boundaries with this latest album and i feel the same vibe from them
Weird thing is I saw them as a headliner last year in Germany and they only had about 11,5 minutes of official music out.
They have a lot of noises between there songs and played a new one if I remember correctly.
People missed their set because they had to pee.
Kidding. Best 20 minutes in a long time. Thrown owns
Thats why when u release an album, you do it how Sleep Token did it. Half the album is singles and then the other half of the album is better than the singles 😂
Cuz its fckin pissed.. thats d real deal. THROWN ffs
Hey nik I’d love to see you react to continuum by imminence. It’s such a good song
I saw them live 2-3 years ago when they where about to break through. Didnt know anything about them and had not even heard of them before seeing them live. I knew INSTANTLY when I heard them that they were going to be big. They are INSANE live.
I was on their concert in Prague last week. They do hit hard live, it was freaking awesome. Love them, discovered them 2 months ago :D
Buster got that dog in him
I got to see them live in Stockholm supporting Architects and Spiritbox after Loathes tour bus was involved in a accident.
They were great, and the dude in the rain jacket kept it on all through the performance.
Never heard of them until now. Thanks Nik. I have listened and they are amazing.
Same here
I'm actually Thrown away by this information...
Unfortunately While She Sleeps new album (Self Hell) is a classic example of the singles being the best tracks and the rest of the album being quite disappointing.
In saying that To The Flowers is one of the best songs they’ve ever written.
Hard disagree about the comparison of singles with metal bands and other Mainstream formats. If you look at other artists like Taylor Swift play counts you still have singles crushing numbers 5x the other songs on the albums despite the larger sample size. I hate you for making me do this but looking into other artists the same rings true. Drake, Travis Scott, Beyonce. They all show the same trend of singles having massive numbers and the rest of the album falling dismally short.
im proud to say that i helped a lot with the spotify metrics i listen the same 8 thrown songs everyday
Thank you for bringing this Band to my attention. Their incredible
*they're
@@derekzicari2181 I hope you live a long happy life.
Your point about just writing a great song and releasing it and continuing on reminded me of how Bilmuri releases his stuff. I want him to hit 1 million 🙏🏻
They are on my daily playlist. Fucking love 'dwell'
I have some things to say about this that no one cares about but here I go: I am of course an avid music enjoyer and albums are my main source of music consumption. Id rather listen to an album, than a playlist, especially if its a good one. Artists create albums for a reason and a lot of metal bands put so much work into them, making them, like others have stated in the comments here, an experience. Thats also why im a huge fan of concept albums that tell a story like "All Mighty Men", "Origine" or "Trinity".
Secondly I am also a musician and Ive written singles an EP and an Album, (the latter two of which are yet to be released) and i wont release any singles for them. I want the listeners to get the album and enjoy it and pick out their favorite songs. If I release my favourites as singles first, some other songs might get lost. So i go against the industry standard. My goal is of course not the same as that of other musicians. I dont want to maximise income and live solely off of my music, its just a hobby and some times I feel like if more musicians focused on the craft of making good music and not conforming to any algorithms, theyd be happier. But idk, im just a young guy who does what he loves. Thank you for coming to my TED talk
Seeing them live this year opening for Alpha Wolf and I'm fucking HYPED
I saw them live here in Sweden, a supeise support to spiritbox and Architects , Loath was in a accident so the cancelled… throen just got on the stage with no pre info , i was like fuck I know this band , took me 2-3 bangers snd then I remember hering them so msny times on spotify, had no ide they are Swedish , cool asf !
They dominated on stage also and made the disappointing fact I miss Loath less bad .
Exiting to follow them and see where they gon💪💪🤘🤘
I’ve been listening the fuck out of them for a few months now.
I was wondering what is this band that keeps getting suggested to me on Spotify
I saw thrown here when Invent Animate brought them. Amazing show. Lineup was solid top to bottom
I swear if I hear one more FUCKING Thrown song when I finish an album on spotify.....
Just seen them at the Impericon festival in Oberhausen. They were great! Greetings from Germany ✌🏻
How long did they play for? 17 minutes?
@@apl2606 I was there too and they were about 25 minutes on stage
Excited to see these guys later this year in Australia, their shit slaps from the first song I heard of theirs, I was instantly hooked.
17 minute concert lol
@@scarseven7855 They supporting alpha wolf with TDWP and invent animate, their set is first
ive seen them twice now, they're good
ive seen them live twice and they are fucking amazing on the stage!
Why do you people keep hating things just subscribe lmao
I play Thrown entirely almost every day 😎🔥 glad I'm contributing to their monthly listeners
I think it depends on the band honestly.
I want to hear your opinion on Hideous Divinity's new album "Unextinct." I had never listened to them previously, but I was pleasantly surprised.
They are so good ❤
Intronaut and Car Bomb are the two bands i HAVE to listen to the whole albums....
You're right, its hard to make a perfectly solid album to listen to the whole thing.
Some bands though, just can't make a bad song enough to skip on the album.
I got a thrash metal band called "Berserk Mode", now it has 10k mothly listeners on Spotify. My band consists of thrash songs combined with intros and outros related to video games, chiptunes, etc. These outros and intros are short songs, less than 2 min. Surprisingly these are the most listened songs of my band. With Nik explanation, now I understand why...
Thrown is siiiick
There seems to be a general move in the streaming age toward just putting out singles and less full albums.
Ya don't say...
grayscale season is another amazing band that buster produces
I think I tend to like singles from artists more than full albums because an artist puts all their creativity in to it. An album doesn't always carry that same weight of creativity and i struggle to listen to whole albums. Probably a lot due to consuming short format media like tiktok, but seeing a full creative outcome is always gonna be good
nik streamin from brazil?
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Haven’t heard of them but just listened to On the Verge. Very Limp Bizkit Core
They slap. enough said.
Would laugh if they announced an album this week
I got one of their songs in my Discover weekly and I love the songs that sound kind of like Nü-Core
100% true with the album argument, although the only exception for me was Sleep Token's latest album
Just listened grayout and backfire. I thought they were the same song. Nope. Not my cup of tea.
Because Thrown are amazeballs. Seen them twice already. And merch.
Im seeing Kublai Khan in Dallas, and if I'm able to walk after that I gotta go see Thrown too
I wonder when the AI-driven metal scene will look like. Perhaps Sacra Theosis will be "dominating" the AI-driven Christian Symphonic Metal scene :)
Parasite is probably the most underrated song in their portfolio
Algorithms prefer showing popular content. Whether that popularity is natural or paid for makes no difference to the algorithm.
As someone said in the Twitch chat: I miss albums that tell a story. Yes. I do as well. An album that tells of something arbitrary or in reference to something else from reality or, my personal favorite, a character progression of a band member or of a singular person the band knows. Either way, albums are for listeners and musicians.
I love Thrown and can't wait for an LP 😃
Thrown lives rent free in my head
69th like fuck yeah
Havnt enjoyed any modern metal bands. Just aint the same shit always sounds fake bland and way over produced.
People probably think the same shit about $uicideboy$. I think a lot of modern metal is unique and blends genres well. On the Verge by this band has a cowbell sample that reminds me of Yin Yang tapes from $b
Been listening to thrown from the beginning, I love them so much
Amen brother. Truer words haven't been spoken...good quality does not mean quality content 🤝🏼
Funk yeah, Thrown.
Thrown is absolutely killer.
And now theyre touring Aus with Alpha wolf, invent animate and TDWP. Deserved success!
Don’t get me wrong I love albums. I can listen to Breaking Benjamin’s discography from Phobia to Ember all the way through. STARSET is another great example. Their Vessels and HORIZONS albums are phenomenal. Sleep Token is another one. You get the point. But for this specific style, I kinda like the singles and short songs format. They are headbangers. Songs to go absolutely ape to and they aren’t really designed to be this super complex sonic experience. They just absolutely rip your face off for 2 minutes and that’s it. I think it works
Completely disagree. Singles are just a taste of a band. And album is the full course. I’ll always appreciate a full album. It’s dedication to your craft.
I’ve loved thrown since its inception, just angry Swedish bois, just following up in the new popular rage style of metal core like Alpha Wolf, Kubai Khan, dealer & even though they’re not really metal core Knocked loose
Can't wait to see them at Rockville
I went to a show with Thrown a few weeks ago in Mesa, AZ and they absolutely killed it, and they weren't even the headliner, but the crowd LOVED them. Cell was meh, Mouth For War was good, Spite was great (the lead singer is kind of odd, but it was a great showing), and I had to leave as Bodysnatcher was setting up.
I hope they don’t make more songs. Every concert with 30 Minutes are blasting. The Songs are enough 😂
Met them at the last show nice guys
I personally like the experience of listening to albums. Spent most of March listening to albums in their entirety - Firewind's 'Stand United', Amaranthe's 'Manifest' and 'The Cataylist', Mr. Big's 'Lean into it', A7X's 'Nightmare', Orbit Culture's 'Descent'. Albums tend to have more of a long-lasting impact than standalone singles IMO.
I totally agree. Solid taste btw
I don't find anything fresh or original about the Thrown tracks, and frankly I couldn't listen to any of the all the way through, though the band exhibits skill. Weirdly, Backfire had elements that reminded me of Spiritbox's Holy Roller, a song that is much more appealing to me than any of the Thrown tracks.
Reaction for the new Track ‚Nights‘? Please? Thank you ❤
Everyone say thank you to the Spotify algorithm lol
It might be happened to jinjer, I know that Tatiana didn't want to play pisces live because the song was to overrated for her feeling...
So if some of the members of Sleep Token started a new project and it rocketed to the top with 2-3 songs this would surprise you? When an objectively amazing artist starts another band it's going to be popular. That's how it works.
Yeah Ive been noticing bands are relying less and less on albums and more and more on singles.
I think it's fine, it doesn't mean the death of the album. I see it more as fine tuning, or beta testing. Veil of Maya did it with their last album: 3-4 years of singles, they weren't satisfied, went back to work and made a whole, different album. Bands will still want to tell stories and create concepts, but with the new realities of music distribution and access, you don't NEED to have an album ready to go, any completed song can be broadcasted right away... You'd be foolish not to use this as a tool to test your material AND keep your audience engaged.
They applied the underground hip hop formula to generating plays/likes to metal. Can't hate them for it, it's a smart move given the way we consume music now a days.
My OCD won't allow me to listen to random playlists curated by algorithm or some random dude. Albums all the way.
It’s funny I have a couple of their songs on my workout list on Spotify and I didn’t even realize who they were, I just liked the songs hearing them on random. 😂
Shortest metal song is. you suffer by napalm death . Solo is amazing
VILdhjarta
Not VOLdhjarta
I know it’s a weird sweedish band name but there’s not a single O in there.