Great service you provide, Cody. It's good to have someone who uses rigorous testing methods to tease out the facts for the rest of us. Keep up the good work. Am hoping you review the Toelke Super Static Recurve next.
I asked Bob Wesley to order me a HH bow after taking his class. I have a 70” 55lb Wesley special. Great review. I found, like you, that with a specific grip the hand shock is significantly reduced. For me i don’t even notice it. The speed is not great, but who cares. And I like your term “tightness”. I always just said that it seems to jump up quickly in weight as you pull but then smooths out till you reach anchor. Love the bow. Very nice review.
Love my Westley specials 68" 65@29 and 64" 60@29 In the past I have had these, a 70"tembo 70@29 a 70" King of the North 70@29 and a Centennial 64" 70@29 The simple long bow is nothing more or less than I need. Remember that the closer the game the more certain the outcome, no matter the weapon.
Thank you so much for your test i personally own a Wesley and legend stick and man they are both great shooting bows!!!!!! Craig at Hill Archery they are a great comp to deal with. Cody please keep up the good work love your test.
Hi Cody, really dig what you're doing here!! I am very interested in you're reviews I'd love to see one on the Redman and hear how they compare to other Asl models.
Sadly Howard Hill Archery will be shutting down shortly as announced on their web site. Two of my bows are 66" Wesley Specials, but the limb core is cross laminated bamboo, called "Lamboo." Outstanding bows!
I have owned 70", 68" and a 66" Howard Hill Bamboo core longbows. My draw, after a motorcycle crash is 24", so the 66" is perfect for me. The 66" limbs are significantly more streamlined and a look significantly better to me. The 70" had significantly more hand shock upon release. One would have to use a quite a bit heavier arrow to tame that bow.
HHA advertises their bows have a speed of "115 feet per second plus the weight of the bow." 43 plus 115 is 158, so 166 is very impressive. However, I do wish you to test heavier poundages to see if they have better performance while retaining the smoothness.
I’m looking at snagging a 66” Wesley Special for a good price that’s built for string follow. In your opinion; would the string follow negate enough of the critical-ness of the bow to even out the performance vs forgiveness issue? Also, my other concern is that it’s 66” instead of 68”. I have a 66” ASL already, but it’s reverse handle. I’m worried that the 66” standard handle will stack at my 29” draw.
The straight limb laminated fiberglass longbow is the easiest to manufacture and maintain. My first one was great. My 3rd one was excellent. Don't fool yourselves, these bows are great, but never worth more than $300, even for the best. The only way one could cost more than $300 is if it was made from unobtainium wood. Even a homeless man has access to adequate supplies to make a good hill style bow.
Thanks for doing HH. Question: Is this your bow? Or did someone give it to you to review? I was just wondering, why 70" If 68" or 66" is a better performing bow, FPS-wise, then the 70" bow must have other advantages? Why go for the full 70"?
I purchased this used and just sold it. My preference is a 68" for sure. 66" will gain speed but at a big cost in terms of ergonomics. I have some 66" ASLs coming up where you can see this. The example I have where this is not true is the St. Patricks Lake Northern Styk. This is a reverse handle where you can get away with a 66" bow without the stack.
@@tradlab1859 When you say "a big cost in terms of ergonomics" -- can you break that down? is it just stacking? Or is it hand-shock? Or is the shorter bow less stable and forgiving? I'm curious because I have thought about getting a HH made, and I was wondering the plusses and minuses of longer vs shorter. I know shorter gives higher FPS and obviously easier to use overall in a hunting situation... but what are the overall tradeoffs? Thanks! Love you channel!
A HH bow is my dream bow, in 60 or 65 lb at 68in with no shelf. can shoot ether hand no dominant eye and am fully ambidextrous so why get 2 bows one for each hand when one with no shelf lets me shoot it ether hand. hopefully, in the next few months, I'll order one if the truck stops breaking
I am looking to sell two Howard Hill bows. I live in Dover Kent United Kindom. Unfortunately, I can no longer do the Howard Hill method of instinctive shooting and must sell my two Howard Hills, one a Tembo 70" recurve at 28" at 45LB. The other is a Reverse handle grip at 65lb at 28". I have two others for sale. However, do not trust the modern postage service. I would like to hear from any instinctive archer interested, with a personal appearance, John.
Great service you provide, Cody. It's good to have someone who uses rigorous testing methods to tease out the facts for the rest of us. Keep up the good work.
Am hoping you review the Toelke Super Static Recurve next.
I have one in line to record. I love it
I asked Bob Wesley to order me a HH bow after taking his class. I have a 70” 55lb Wesley special. Great review. I found, like you, that with a specific grip the hand shock is significantly reduced. For me i don’t even notice it. The speed is not great, but who cares. And I like your term “tightness”. I always just said that it seems to jump up quickly in weight as you pull but then smooths out till you reach anchor. Love the bow. Very nice review.
Love my Westley specials 68" 65@29 and 64" 60@29
In the past I have had these, a 70"tembo 70@29 a 70" King of the North 70@29 and a Centennial 64" 70@29
The simple long bow is nothing more or less than I need.
Remember that the closer the game the more certain the outcome, no matter the weapon.
Great stuff Cody. Good bows , great company .
ASLs are often get overlooked.
Wow! Just found your channel. Thanks for the very down to earth and informative review.
Thank you so much for your test i personally own a Wesley and legend stick and man they are both great shooting bows!!!!!! Craig at Hill Archery they are a great comp to deal with.
Cody please keep up the good work love your test.
Awesome review. I'm trying to learn as much as possible before making a decision on a hill style bow.
Hi Cody, really dig what you're doing here!! I am very interested in you're reviews I'd love to see one on the Redman and hear how they compare to other Asl models.
Sadly Howard Hill Archery will be shutting down shortly as announced on their web site. Two of my bows are 66" Wesley Specials, but the limb core is cross laminated bamboo, called "Lamboo." Outstanding bows!
Great review! I learn so much from this
I have owned 70", 68" and a 66" Howard Hill Bamboo core longbows. My draw, after a motorcycle crash is 24", so the 66" is perfect for me. The 66" limbs are significantly more streamlined and a look significantly better to me. The 70" had significantly more hand shock upon release. One would have to use a quite a bit heavier arrow to tame that bow.
Great to see the HH ASLs getting some love. I have a Cheetah so I'd love a review on a Howard Hill Cheetah.
I led Incan find one I will test it.
Great video Cody.
Thank you Sir, they will improve with reps.
HHA advertises their bows have a speed of "115 feet per second plus the weight of the bow." 43 plus 115 is 158, so 166 is very impressive. However, I do wish you to test heavier poundages to see if they have better performance while retaining the smoothness.
I’m looking at snagging a 66” Wesley Special for a good price that’s built for string follow. In your opinion; would the string follow negate enough of the critical-ness of the bow to even out the performance vs forgiveness issue? Also, my other concern is that it’s 66” instead of 68”. I have a 66” ASL already, but it’s reverse handle. I’m worried that the 66” standard handle will stack at my 29” draw.
Excellent honest review!
Have you heard of "7 Lakes Archery"? I'm trying to research them on TH-cam but can't find anything.
The straight limb laminated fiberglass longbow is the easiest to manufacture and maintain. My first one was great. My 3rd one was excellent. Don't fool yourselves, these bows are great, but never worth more than $300, even for the best. The only way one could cost more than $300 is if it was made from unobtainium wood. Even a homeless man has access to adequate supplies to make a good hill style bow.
Good review Cody 👍
Thanks for doing HH. Question: Is this your bow? Or did someone give it to you to review? I was just wondering, why 70" If 68" or 66" is a better performing bow, FPS-wise, then the 70" bow must have other advantages? Why go for the full 70"?
I purchased this used and just sold it. My preference is a 68" for sure. 66" will gain speed but at a big cost in terms of ergonomics. I have some 66" ASLs coming up where you can see this. The example I have where this is not true is the St. Patricks Lake Northern Styk. This is a reverse handle where you can get away with a 66" bow without the stack.
@@tradlab1859 When you say "a big cost in terms of ergonomics" -- can you break that down? is it just stacking? Or is it hand-shock? Or is the shorter bow less stable and forgiving? I'm curious because I have thought about getting a HH made, and I was wondering the plusses and minuses of longer vs shorter. I know shorter gives higher FPS and obviously easier to use overall in a hunting situation... but what are the overall tradeoffs? Thanks! Love you channel!
@@MarkJoel1960 Shorter will stack more for sure. I have some other 66" ASLs coming up and you will see that they stack more than 68"
A HH bow is my dream bow, in 60 or 65 lb at 68in with no shelf. can shoot ether hand no dominant eye and am fully ambidextrous so why get 2 bows one for each hand when one with no shelf lets me shoot it ether hand. hopefully, in the next few months, I'll order one if the truck stops breaking
I am looking to sell two Howard Hill bows. I live in Dover Kent United Kindom. Unfortunately, I can no longer do the Howard Hill method of instinctive shooting and must sell my two Howard Hills, one a Tembo 70" recurve at 28" at 45LB. The other is a Reverse handle grip at 65lb at 28". I have two others for sale. However, do not trust the modern postage service. I would like to hear from any instinctive archer interested, with a personal appearance, John.
Hi John
Happened to see your comment. I live near Folkestone and would be interested to see what you have for sale.
Josh
Is Howard Hill archery still making bows??
Hello Cody. I hope all is well. Being 6’5” and having a 32” draw, I’m assuming a 70” stick would be appropriate?
Maybe 72 inch.
Hey Cody when do you review a Black Widow?
675 for a hand built made in the usa by a Pro shop like a Bear HELLLLLLL YA good video
How about the cheetah what do you think about it
I have some original docs about Howard Hill. In Afraca he used a 100 lbs longbow. The use of a 43 lbs looks to me ridiculous.