PLAY TO WIN BREWS A FRANCISCO, FOWL MARAUDER cEDH DECK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Dylan and Cam brew a cEDH deck built around the new pirate partner Francisco, Fowl Marauder
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I think the deck should be called “bird soup” because you’re using the cauldron as your main wincon
Love that idea
Hippidy-hop all the way to the birdie boiler
Chicken soup?
Oooo Chicken Soup for the Soul Cauldron
Dammit! Came here to make the same name! Ah well, too slow this time.
“You Wouldn’t Pirate a Cauldron?” Queue Y2K Tencho music.
This was an 11/10 episode boys. The humor, the thought process behind the card choices, and general discussion of deck structure were all 👌
would have enjoyed a tyler though i agree ;D
A couple of things I noticed playing the deck a bit:
-You want as few lands as possible because 1. Citadel 2. You don't want a land on top when you combo
- Counterbalance is so free in this deck
- combat research and curious obsession are nice cheap advantages engines that give Francisco 1 power
-If you play entomb you might as well have a razaketh in since it's cauldronable
-Consecrated sphynx is amazing in this deck, you ramp so hard with your commanders that it's super easy to cast
Wondering if Cavern of Souls isn't worth it when both your commanders are Pirates 🤔
I was thinking this - especially when your commander is the key piece to a combo.
In two color probably
Super fun getting to see a brew happen as a newer cedh player!
"The bird is the word" since both are your commanders and basically your wincon
Loved this episode, hope this style of episode comes back in the future.
Really glad you guys made a video on Francisco, I've been considering building him and now I have a base list I can work with (since I'll probably wanna make a casual build that's maybe more pirate focused, but having a cEDH list for when I want to get into the format is super nice too)
I enjoyed watching your brewing process.
Surprised we didn't see counterbalance in the deck to go with top.
Also, is so unfortunate that Francisco has 0 power so he's just expensive Roger without the combo of another pirate.
Buuuuuut cauldron can put a counter on it.
@@thedoctor1471 Pretty sure they're talking about how it doesn't get anywhere on its own. It would be helpful if Francisco could start getting counters and manipulating the top of your deck (with the explore triggers) on its own before trying to combo off and without relying on the other partner commander.
@@nitramreniar yeah on that I agree and it's honestly the reason I think the card isn't THAT strong.
Also i was expecting aetherflux reservoir to go along with top and citadel. Obviously a 3 card combo but the decm seems to have a lot of tutors anyways. And reservoir gives some life gain even if not going off
this was a really cool episode seeing u guys just rattle off cards off the top
the knowledge is really impressive actually you put together a list of like 25 none land cards together so so quick once u knew the colours
I love this content! please do more "all ready we are overwhelmed" is so real xD
Imp Seal also lets you put Ballista on top and gives you a counter from explore then put it in the graveyard. I guess this assumes you have a counter, but it gives you an extra one to try the combo an additional time.
This is exactly the kind of content I like to see as someone with only their toes in the cEDH ocean
New favorite video; I love the brewing. Helps me better understand why some cards are left out of certain decks.
Listened to this on my way home from work as a podcast, and watched again to see with the cards. You guys should do this more often! You only get used to brewing the more you do it, and it was super entertaining!
Love the idea of this! I’ve been wanting to get into cEDH for a little while now, and this seems like a really fun start.
The Reality Chip would go so hard in this deck. You are already playing Bolas's Citadel and Sensei's Top, and with how many artifacts youre playing you could toss in an Etherium Sculptor too
Woah good point, that's a cool idea!
The reality chip is so good I run that combo on jhoira to run up Aetherflux and sometimes grapeshot
@@shivandragon1651 I need to put it in my Jhoira deck I just keep forgetting because I'm brainless
@anthonybuck4864 do it it's so good, I've ran it in elsha as a backup just incase I can't cast elsha again
I love these style of shows, deckbuilding on the fly around a card/mechanic. Always a good idea to see/hear how others approach a format or just their overall deck building styles
The only answer “Skwab the Deck”
It’s bird themed. Pirate themed. And it is a deck.
I've seen a lot of entombs being played, but it seems like no one wants to run unmarked grave. I understand that it's quite a bit worse, but in most decks that want a specific card in a graveyard (that isn't legendary) I think it can definitely be worth it
Reshape is very similar if you're running it to put a walking ballista in your graveyard
Vile entomber is also solid ik it's 2 and 2 black but it's a body, and you can loop it to fill your graveyard
What an amazing resource for cEDH veterans and newcomers alike! I hope this inspires many people to try brewing from scratch; I know I'll be!
I brewed Francisco like 2 weeks ago. My deck list is called Tightrope Frank and pairs Francisco with Akiri Line-Slinger and Lurrus as companion. You mull aggressively looking for mana, draw engines/ tutors or an early Naus. Akiri gets surprisingly big by the way. Commander damage has happened.
My first thought was Ghost of Ramirez DePietro purely because you can stack the triggers so that you basically always draw a card when you want to off of Ramirez combat damage trigger after exploring. But that also feels more casual.
It’s actually a nonbo, you have to choose a target for Ramirez *before* Francisco explores
I really enjoyed watching this video! Helped me think of how I want to build a deck more!
I definitely like the idea of Francisco and Kraum because the explore could help set up Underworld Breach lines.
True, but you're doing that slowly and in public, somebody's gonna tutor up interaction or oncodentally hit you with a bog way before you're ready a lot of the time.
@THEMithrandir09 Oh yeah, I don't expect it to be the best way to get Breach to go off. It's just a nice little interaction that could be used.
You can also explore the walking balista in the graveyard if you put it on top via vamp tutor, etc.
I built Malcolm Francesco and it’s pretty solid and I run a decent amount of pirates. Exploring multiple times due to your pirates combat damage helps you thin your deck as you can put 2-3 cards in your GY. It’s a good loot like effect while getting Francisco pretty big
Great episode! Do more of these please 🎉 Also I really wanted to see an orzhov list. If you're going to use walking ballista seems like Heliod is an easy include. And with your recent stax video y'all noted orzhov might just be the best stax list now.
I'm just imagining this list with all the black and white hate pieces. Archon of Emeria, dauntless dismantler, dranith, abolisher, ranger capt, dranna and linvalla, dauthi, opposition agent, aven mind censor, archivist, esper sentinel and recruiter of the guard. Did I just build the deck 😂
This is hands-down my favourite podcast episode you lads have ever put out. Please, for the love of god make more like this, this was amazing
Any chance we could see this deck played? I really like the potential of it.
This is an awesome video! Hope you guys do more of these
Something I like is a very specific senario with Agathas + Ballista + Bowmasters. If you have a large army on the battlefield, you can ping people like crazy by removing counters from the army if you cant get Francisco on the battlefield.
Ive been playing this partner pair for a couple weeks. Kitesail Larconist is an all-star.
Was the short you released yesterday on the cauldron combo a different take? Noticed the dialogue was slightly different between the two.
I know it’s a long shot but what about putting Urza, Lord High Artificer into the deck. Helps all your artifacts tap for blue and a chance to cast a card for free and also rearrange the top of the deck with every use. This might be a bad option but I have been running him as my commander and have been wanting to find a way to add black to the deck haha
Absolutely loved this! This kind of insight is exactly what I need to build cedh decks
At the 5:00 mark so maybe yall touch on it later BUT hoarding broodlord also is a 1-card win con. Broodlord gets saw In half and you only need to have 1 more mana with Frank in play to cast saw on broodlord. The copies get cauldron and ballista, and you convoke the cauldron with the tokens then ballista for 0. I added a reanimation package with shallow grave and victimize recently to my sultai pile and its solid
Is curiosity good enough in a deck with 2 evasive commanders? Pretty consistent card draw when this deck otherwise doesnt have much.
A great land include that can help you with a little advantage and can catch your thoracle players sleeping is Mikokoro, center of the sea. A colorless legendary land and you can pay two to have everyone draw a card. Can snipe a Thassa player out of nowhere.
"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" the Bush here is the metaphor for the graveyard. With the ballista in the graveyard. Im not entirely sold myself yet, but it was what i thought when you asked for a name 😂
If I may suggest something a little spicy for the deck? It’s pet card I fell in love with, saved me quite a bit.
Withering Boon, 1B Instant (2CMC)
Pay 3 life: Counter Target Summon Spell.
People don’t expect it lol
You do not need to have a way to discard the walking ballista, you can cast it X = 0, then it goes straight to the graveyard.
BuT wHaT iF It GeTs CoUnTeRed?
They said that in the beginning of the video…
Hoarding broodlord would've been so cool. Broodlord tutor saw in half, saw the brood in half, get cauldron and ballista
Cast ballista into the grave then convoke cauldron with the two lords and bam
This was really insightful into what goes into deck brewing at a Cedh level
"Chicken soup for the soul cauldron"
I tried building the kraum version with a bunch of pirates but I think it's too unfocused. There were some cool synergies like pyre of heroes turning francisco into either malcolm or glinthorn buccaneer - or sacking a ragavan to tutor a dockside to the board. It also allowed you to play goblin welder & engineer to set up the soul cauldron line easier.
Other potential includes for this deck though:
> Tribute Mage tutors for soul cauldron
> Scrapyard recombiner tutors for ballista
> Are there no cheap pirates worth running? Every pirate that deals damage is letting you basically surveil & make a treasure
Artifact lands are great with the Tezzeret. Can ramp with the -x for 0, find a Seat of the Synod, then transmute it later
Love this format. Next time you do this, could you add just a little ticking deck card count in the corner? That way I can see how many are in the deck as it's going up.
You can Imp Seal something to the top and explore it to the yard if you don't have entomb in hand.
38:00 What 5 card Hoarding Broodlord package would you have added to this deck? Saw in Half, Burnt Offering, ...?
I actually built a francisco/thrasios deck that I've been loving. I want to try a mardu and jund version of the deck
Theres so much this commander can do!
@PlaytoWinMTG yup. Combo piece in command zone that's easy to assemble. An orzhov version would be good but obviously more colors are better.
Add jarads orders it does final parting but 1 mana less
@@tedheuchling9663i believe that doesn't work because jarad orders search for two creature cards so you can't search the cauldron with it
@@tedheuchling9663Agathas soul Cauldron is my favourite creature card :)
Good ole Chicken Soup. Pretty Fowl brew if I do say so myself.
Only a few min. In but I love that there's talk about dockside and no one's realized that he is a pirate haha😂❤
What about some other cheap pirates to trigger your commanders? Siren Stormtamer and Spectral Sailor seem pretty good in the deck.
Definitely worth considering, 3 treasures and 3 explores in one turn is huge
@@PlaytoWinMTGwith the couple includes, would you want more card advantage things to outlet the extra mana? I’m a casual player so I’m not sure this take is great
Great video with some fun brewing process. As a personal favorite i have to ask where is my boy grim hireling? Gotta sac those Malcolm tokens to kill the board. Also a fun pirate inclusion is the new Kitesail Larcenist
Feels like you could go orzhov with keleth and play lurrus as a companion, recurs all the combo pieces including cauldron. Plus the tutors for the combo and some nice stax pieces. When they print a 2 cmc azorius commander to put this in esper it'll be great.
A redundancy for Walking Balista is Monoskelion. If you exile it with Agatha's and you have Malcomn in play the combo works as well
Loved the Ichimaru Gin info drop from Cam!
You can imperial seal for ballista and immediately explore it into the graveyard!!!
You can use urzas saga to put ballista in the graveyard. A little unorthodox but can be useful with enough 1 drop artifacts.
I think some extra little pirates would be good for more Malcolm triggers. Like siren stormtamer that’s also a counter and I would put in resculpt over pongify.
I run those on my build along with Kitesail Freebooter and Larconist. Larconist is so good.
Yo, def don't need to play Peer for Broodlord to work! Just saw in half the broodlord get Ballista and Soul Cauldron; The two copies can cast Cauldron, Ballista is free, Francisco on board and gg?
Also an interesting card inclusion... Tarrian's Soulcleaver and Mikaeus. Let's say you're in a place where you need to buff the creature to turn on Agatha.. Now with Soulcleaver using a treasure puts +1/+1 counter on the equipped creature. Since y'all have Malcolm you should have plenty of fodder. And Mikaeus and Ballista are a combo too.
Edit: maybe investors fair too
Paco is short for Francisco in spanish. Maybe something like "Paco´s final parting", some last words before shooting everybody down. Love your chanel, cheers from Spain guys!
Running Francisco and Kraum. Grixis Pirates are where its at. If your library empty. You still get the explore trigger making Francisco good at Cracking doomsday piles.
Tana just casually walking by and hit with the absolutely deadliest drive by of all time lmao
Loved this type of video, would be happy to see more!
Are the zendikar spells/land for 3 life cards not good anymore? I play them, the blue one is sweet, black one I’ve never played but it reanimates creatures X or less.
Another “entomb” for the Walking Ballista could be “Mausoleum Secrets” because it’s cmc is 0, so you don’t have to have any creature cards to get it, and from that point on it is just upside
Doesn’t work, ballista isn’t black card.
@@jariraisanen8914ah, my bad
I'm really digging Francisco + Malcolm, but I'm wondering if Esior, Wardwing Familiar could be a good alternative bc it protects Francisco. And hey...Bird Tribal.
Would it be worth fitting in new Malcolm (Alluring Scoundrel) in the 98? Seems good to me, but I'm new to cedh..
Are you guys going to do more of these episodes, where you build decks?
A card draw engine that seems good with Malcom is Braids Arisen Nightmare. Sac the treasure and it's likely you'll be drawing 3.
Any thoughts on kitesail larcenist? 3 mana for interaction, and the evasion pirate synergy.
Moonsilver key seems worth trying since it gets one of your combo pieces. Also, "Birds of War" for the deck name
I had no idea Urza’s Saga couldn’t grab X spells, that’s interesting 🤔
I love this deck idea tho; I wonder if I could make it casual since my friends don’t wanna play comp 😅 tho I own most of these cards already so it could be interesting to have a cEDH deck on standby..
Ghost of Ramirez Del Pietro is a good partner for Francisco. Il play him with Francisco and it is really good, it makes a true card advantage with the interaction and ramirez is a pirate. And you can run card who mill your library (like ashiok) a put back them in your hand.
Just tested this on Moxfield and first hand was:
Gemstone Caverns
Underground River
Jeweled Lotus
Imperial Seal
Deadly Rollick
Phyrexian Metamorph
Pact of Negation
Draw: Transmute Artifact
I’ll take it. 🎉😂🎉
Deck name: “Dylan & Cameron’s pirate cosplay”
Would snuff out not be better than one of the other removal options?
Could mardu work for goblin engineer for another Entomb effect?
Yooooo that's crazy
If you see this comment ; Akiri Lurrus and Francisco is spicy and could be good as a breach line grinding station using the graveyard with lurrus to get back to cauldron if it gets destroyed or countered. let's not forget lurrus let's you play peer into the abyss, naus and final parting. red white gives you enlightened and gamble as tutor but mostly is using silence effects.
I would put in all the effects that sacrifice an artifact to search a artifact into play so you have the potential of saccing walking balista to get agatha's cauldron into play
I wonder if Francisco-Oops all spells has legs. Entirely artifact mana/mdf lands so that you never whiff on the explore
Question , for the fowl does he trigger 3 times if you hit all 3 opponents?
Nooo guys, I still need this to be unexplored/bad until February so I can smash the EU qualis :P
Jokes aside, I am super excited to see where you bring this to by the end of the video. I've had the deck brewed for about 2 weeks now and it has gone through a few iterations. Disregarding performance, it has a very interesting niche :)
As always, you guys are super entertaining to watch. I really like this live brewing session.
7:59 I also like playing Malcom/Vial Smasher Curiosity Control with Francisco in the 99.
Damn... I was super hoping this would be a Jund brew... I am a "retired" standard sweaty player but can't, for the life of me, stop the tryhard- so I found my new home in cEDH. Can't take the Jund out of the girl, though, and damn if I can't find a Jund shell/strat that feels good. Korvold is what I am tinkering with- and I am gonna have to just keep at it for now, lol.
(As an aside I LOVED this. There should be more brews-as-podcast.)
Me screaming cavern of souls at my phone because you have 2 pirates in your command zone
Getting increasingly stressed out for 30 minutes until they finally remembered Dark Ritual. 10/10 would listen to again.
Great video! As a Malcolm / Kediss player I’m happy any time people talk about pirates lol
Also Dylan that shirt goes hard. Had to go order it after the video 😂
Intuition for yag will, souls cauldron, citadel. Malcom helps cast with extra treasure
The Francisco combo also makes infinite mana with Malcolm on the board. 14:43
What are your guys' thoughts on Keleth, Sunmane Familiar? It would put the first +1/+1 counter on Francisco when he declares an attack to start the chain
I'm wondering with all the artifacts do we play investor's fair?
First time I got Francisco in play I thought, add malcolm and make a fun cedh deck. The pirates are my favorite tribe in the game already.
siren stormtamer? 1 mana play, protection for Francisco (and others), plus a pirate with evasion
cEDH players looking for more dual lands should be trying the Shadowmoor Block Filter lands (Sunken Ruins, Cascade Bluffs, etc)
When you said “we don’t really have a big beater” I thought “they should play Zephyr Singer” (the 3/4 flying vigilance pirate with convoke)