The problem is MSP and MA lawmakers will point to Proctor and say 'See, we got the bad apple...'. Then do nothing else about the entire system that is corrupt. Its NOT just him. Mawn is corrupt. ALL LE in MA are corrupt.
His supervisors, Tully and Bukake, knew about his bad behavior b/c they were in a group chat with him. He was the lead investigator on another current case. Continuously monitoring the trial means that if Karen had been found guilty, it would have been business as usual.
Nothing is going to happen to any of them. Proctor will be quietly transferred to a new elite unit, with a new sert team. Crooked, Corrupt Canton will go on.
So, if it’s not tolerated then WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THERE WAS A VERDICT. Now if they would’ve came back GUILTY. Would you have even done anything. He should’ve been fired as soon as it came out.
Restoring community trust? Then investigate Proctor's supervisors, Tully and Bukenik, who allowed and even encouraged Proctor's corrupt behavior. Otherwise Proctor is just a fall guy.
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!!
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!!
@@357_or9 Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!🤦
@Johnnyjonas274 Canton's current town by-law can't initiate a petition to re-call his election as it is passed a certain day. I believe it is within 35 days of an election. Why no one in Canton initiated this during that time period is a good question. For a special removal of CA as selectman, I think it would be up to a Select Board vote to remove him from his seat. I don't know if that Select Board would do that. If protesters continue to disrupt public speak of Select Board meetings, they may eventually decide that this disruption is not in the best interest of conducting town business.
@@jh9992 hopefully they keep up the pressure like during the last meeting. He should do the right thing and step down, but probably too selfish to do that. The ones who kept voting this guy in when he killed someone and took off is beyond me.
Word of the day: Hyperfocused. He just presented a word salad. Said a lot of nothing. Proctor should be fired, not rehomed. Others should be FIRED too.. Buka.. Paul... All of these "Officers" have made your state police look like complete bafoons. It's a Clown show in Mass.
He did some “corporate talk” but I felt he was sincere. He has to follow the process laid out in the union contract both for Proctor and anyone else involved in the case.
A lot of people are getting the idea that the "transfer" language means they are just sending Proctor to another post and that's it. That's not it. There is a process involved in terminating a Mass State Police and it is NOT immediate. MSP are union. The union and MSP have an agreement that if an MSP is relieved of duty at one post, they will be transferred to another post to work temporarily. They work at that other post/district until a duty status hearing takes place. At that status hearing, they will decide the disciplinary action they will take. They can A- Keep him on with pay B-Put him on restricted duty C-Suspend him with pay D- Suspend him without pay. I do not know if they have set a date for the hearing. In most cases, the union will hire an attorney to defend him.
@@stephaniels5421 You're right about that. At that hearing, Trooper Proctor's advocates are likely to give as good as they get. If I were his lawyer or union rep, I would point out that not only did his supervisors fail to reprimand him for the vile texts or restrain or restrain him in any way, his immediate supervisor also actually "liked" at least one of them. I would argue that the higher-ups were never interested in holding him accountable. They only want him to take the fall now that the MSP has been embarrassed.
The DA's office is just as culpable. More, in fact. The State better be coming down on that office, not waiting on the feds. The feds can take the second shot. But the DA's office as a whole is corrupt and complicit. These are longstanding patterns of widespread, commonplace corrupt investigations and prosecutions, as well as both of those as it pertains to protecting coming LEO'S. Disgusting.
With how freely Proctor was speaking in text, it's a guarantee that he's not the only corrupt one. They have just been getting away with it for a very long time
Every case that this trooper touched is tainted, and the MSP has suffered irreparable damage due to his bad decisions and the poor decisions of his supervisors. Shame!
This is Massachusetts… MSP Colonel, DA Morrisey, Canton selectman John Connelly have zero self control. Does the Colonel look like he could run across the street? They all eat and drink away the taxpayers $. Sad.
So, who would you suggest? The FBI, the doj? Both of these departments are not trust worthy on anything. Both directors of the FBI and doj are liars if you haven’t seen them in the congressional hearings, I would hope you know this.
Why did it take over a year to conplete an IA investigation? Knowing all you knew about this corrupt cop, you still sat by and let the trial play out with the possibility of an innocent woman going to jail.
Locking Karen up is on the way. She IS the hateful killer. No other way to explain her insane abnormality that night. She counted John exposure in cold without coat as a punish that is why she asked Jennifer to Google. She risked john's Life for her rage. This damn dangerous woman deserves the highest conviction under the law.
For those of you not following the trial, he used the terms he did in a group chat with his boss and fellow officers while they asked him if he found undressed photos of Karen Read on her phone that was in evidence. It’s clear the whole department is garbage and promotes that kind of behavior.
Exactly! He wouldn't have felt comfortable texting the vile things he did if it was frowned upon by his supervisors. This tells me that the culture within this agency is less than professional and ethical.
That was Trooper Proctor and a Canton police officer (an Albert). So this guy isn't the boss of the Canton cop. Officer Albert needs to be fired for his actions you're referring to.
Why now? Clean the house, he didn’t acted alone. This feels like if they would have been able to “pin it on the girl”, nothing would have happened. They waited to say something after the mistrial. Respect the trial process sounds like a joke, so allow a person to go through that anguish, spend so much in defense, tax dollars used in that circus, when they could have been open and say the investigation didn’t fulfill protocol since the beginning.
They are absolutely reflective of the Mass state police. There was more than one cop in the chats and it was all accepted. That is a culture of this behavior
Crude texts aside, what is MSP doing to improve their accident reconstruction training, policies and procedures? Trooper Paul has to be the worst expert witness ever. I think the defense did not object to his testimony because he was so woefully inept, uneducated and unprofessional.
He also has to be accountable. He impersonated knowledge he clearly doesn’t have, with the purpose of convicting a woman. That is also planting evidence.
I speak police let me translate --- We knew for years how bad Procter was but now that it's been brought to national attention we have decided to finally do something about it to save face with the public. there's nothing to see here the rest of the force is 100% honest.
"This is totally normal for us. I condemn these commets only because you found out. We are doing our best to get this trooper retired with full benefits as soon as possible"
Gotta love it. We will not tolerate any misconduct which is why we will not fire Michael proctor and instead assign him to a brand new department where no one knows of his previous misconduct.
All incidents like this require labor law considerations that ensure due process steps for employees. Any violation of labor laws could make it harder if not impossible to get rid of him.
In other words he really means. We were hoping this trial would not be a National event. Therefore we did nothing. Now we are forced to cover our tails and investigate ourselves.
The only reason this happened, this case was nationally reported on - if it were a public defender and she were poor - all the manufactured evidence - the texts and unprofessional behaviors and attitudes in the culture of the Dept. wouldn't have been exposed nationally. The Trooper and DA would have gotten a Atta Boy and onto the next case.
The state police are only doing this because this became widely public. It’s obvious that Procter was encouraged by coworkers and bosses. He’s just the sacrifice.
@@NYC2023-du8mgSomeone was in the jury who had connections of some sort with the police! how else could they ignore the plow driver, dog marks and experts the FBI use?!
What, you're not buying what The Commonwealth, through Adam "Mumbles" Lally and Trooper "Crime Scene Whisperer" Paul, tried to sell the jury, that Karen Read backed her SUV up into John O'Keefe at 24 mph, striking him in the arm and catapulting him 10+ feet onto Brian Albert's lawn and that the cuts on John's arm were from a broken tail light and not, as they clearly seem to be, from dog bites and scratches? Shocking.
Very well said. Owning the problem is a huge step in building trust with the folks in Massachusetts. You’ve already started gaining respect for your organization in showing a level of transparency publicly.
Smoke and mirrors. They knew about this and did nothing until after the trial. They didn't fire home. They rehomed him and he still gets his full salary and pension.
In other words- "when we're in full crisis mode and are receiving unbearable scrutiny and pressure, we will take the absolute minimal action possible and continue deflecting and being vague in our responses to the public who has nearly lost all confidence and faith in us"
I agree he needs to be fired, but they can't fire him immediately. There's a process. This explains it well: A lot of people are getting the idea that the "transfer" language means they are just sending Proctor to another post and that's it. That's not it. There is a process involved in terminating a Mass State Police and it is NOT immediate. MSP are union. The union and MSP have an agreement that if an MSP is relieved of duty at one post, they will be transferred to another post to work temporarily. They work at that other post/district until a duty status hearing takes place. At that status hearing, they will decide the disciplinary action they will take. They can A- Keep him on with pay B-Put him on restricted duty C-Suspend him with pay D- Suspend him without pay. I do not know if they have set a date for the hearing. In most cases, the union will hire an attorney to defend him.
ALL these bad actors in this case, Common Wealth, ATF, PD had better be heavily investigated by the FBI and DOJ. Specifically, the chief and Brian Higgins.
Watched trial from Montana. Way too much reasonable doubt to convict KR. And Lally said he is going to retry her! WTH. Math and physics don't lie, but the witnesses for the Commonwealth sure did.
Proctor and his supervisor showed unprofessional conduct! Drinking on job while operating a state vehicle should have been enough along with the texts!!
@@Barb417 I haven't seen a shred of actual evidence that tied her directly to his death. Pieces of tail light that miraculously broke several times in evidence, the lack of a proper crime scene, the expert witnesses who stated it wasn't possible for O'Keefe to have died from a car accident, nor to have died from getting hit by a very precise part of her car in those conditions all prove it wasn't death by Karen Read. More happened here but the State Police and DA's Office aren't willing to uncover the truth because it will bloody their department and office more than they already are at this time. The real victims here besides John O'Keefe are his niece and nephew who have lost yet another parent.
Mawn needs to be fired along with Proctor. The entire State Police system needs to be torn down and rebuilt with someone from the outside taking over to make sure it's not the same old song and dance. Enough with the scandals, enough of these meaningless speeches from Mawn declaring things are going to change. Healey Needs to actually stay put in the state she claims to govern and do her job. She's jetting around the globe on her self promotion tours while the state police once again looks like a clown show.
Bring a leader that has a proven track record of cleaning up! This goes beyond MPD to BPD and Canton PD as well as DA's office. The entire system is rotten.
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash! Smh 🤦♂!!!
@@kevc6115 dont forget that the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down a few years ago for pervasive top down overtime fraud. News reporters had Troop E people in pajamas taking out trash at time they claimed and were paid overtime 🤦
Proctor was saying those disgusting things in group chats with his supervisors. So obviously, he only fired Proctor to protect himself. This is a problem with the whole department.
Yes, there is a Zero Tolerance Policy, only for Tuesdays and Thursdays, all other days we tolerate 10% Incompetence and Un-Professional conduct for texting to our co-worker's, especially if we find naked pictures on cell phones......
If you are worthy of trust then you must admit that the video of Mathew Farwell entering that apartment are suspect as hell. I am no TB rider, but c'mon those 3 cops from Stoughton are on another level of evil.
They better be investigating all those involved in the Karen Read case. Proctor isn't the only corrupt cop in this.
The problem is MSP and MA lawmakers will point to Proctor and say 'See, we got the bad apple...'. Then do nothing else about the entire system that is corrupt. Its NOT just him. Mawn is corrupt. ALL LE in MA are corrupt.
I agree 100% with you
This was not his first time doing this, just the first time it was publicized.
I agree as well. However, he is about to be the scapegoat
They need to investigate Higgins, he's the one who killed john.
His supervisors, Tully and Bukake, knew about his bad behavior b/c they were in a group chat with him. He was the lead investigator on another current case. Continuously monitoring the trial means that if Karen had been found guilty, it would have been business as usual.
Nothing is going to happen to any of them. Proctor will be quietly transferred to a new elite unit, with a new sert team. Crooked, Corrupt Canton will go on.
So, if it’s not tolerated then WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THERE WAS A VERDICT. Now if they would’ve came back GUILTY. Would you have even done anything. He should’ve been fired as soon as it came out.
Of course not
RIGHT!!!!
I think Proctor would have been praised and promoted if verdict was guilty! Corruption is abundant!
Exactly!
Bingo.
Arrest him for staging a crime scene ,along with his colleagues!ASAP !😠
They can't because they will have egg on their faces.
They will never own this!
haha, they will arrest a homeless person who will die in jail and the case will be closed!
Accountable? No one has been held to the standard that a person working at McDonalds would go through. Sickening.
Paying lip service and doing damage limitation exercises will not remove the stink of corruption in Canton PD
Proctor wasn’t the only one ! His tyrant bosses as well in that chat !!! You all need REMOVED!
Agree! He was ordered to do all that. So his supervisors should all be fired.
Restoring community trust? Then investigate Proctor's supervisors, Tully and Bukenik, who allowed and even encouraged Proctor's corrupt behavior. Otherwise Proctor is just a fall guy.
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!!
folks will get inpatient and it’s understandable but it takes certain steps to go through before they did what they done regarding to Proctor.
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!!
Bingo.
@@357_or9 Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash!!🤦
A blind man can see she’s innocent, a blind man can see that, and a deaf person can hear the public…….loudly!
They need to get rid of Chris Albert's from the Select Committee!
The citizens of Canton have to demand that, not the state police
Absolutely! I watch the Board meeting from a few days ago. The ppl of Canton made it clear that they want Alberts out
@Johnnyjonas274 Canton's current town by-law can't initiate a petition to re-call his election as it is passed a certain day. I believe it is within 35 days of an election. Why no one in Canton initiated this during that time period is a good question. For a special removal of CA as selectman, I think it would be up to a Select Board vote to remove him from his seat. I don't know if that Select Board would do that. If protesters continue to disrupt public speak of Select Board meetings, they may eventually decide that this disruption is not in the best interest of conducting town business.
They just hired the Chief for another year!!!
@@jh9992 hopefully they keep up the pressure like during the last meeting. He should do the right thing and step down, but probably too selfish to do that.
The ones who kept voting this guy in when he killed someone and took off is beyond me.
- this man is corrupt and needs to be dragged into the fed investigation also. they are all dirty AF.
Word of the day: Hyperfocused. He just presented a word salad. Said a lot of nothing. Proctor should be fired, not rehomed. Others should be FIRED too.. Buka.. Paul... All of these "Officers" have made your state police look like complete bafoons. It's a Clown show in Mass.
Hyper 🐂💩, all I hear when these people talk anymore is, blah blah blah blah blah.
Total word salad.
He did some “corporate talk” but I felt he was sincere. He has to follow the process laid out in the union contract both for Proctor and anyone else involved in the case.
A lot of people are getting the idea that the "transfer" language means they are just sending Proctor to another post and that's it. That's not it. There is a process involved in terminating a Mass State Police and it is NOT immediate. MSP are union. The union and MSP have an agreement that if an MSP is relieved of duty at one post, they will be transferred to another post to work temporarily. They work at that other post/district until a duty status hearing takes place. At that status hearing, they will decide the disciplinary action they will take. They can A- Keep him on with pay B-Put him on restricted duty C-Suspend him with pay D- Suspend him without pay. I do not know if they have set a date for the hearing. In most cases, the union will hire an attorney to defend him.
@@stephaniels5421 You're right about that. At that hearing, Trooper Proctor's advocates are likely to give as good as they get. If I were his lawyer or union rep, I would point out that not only did his supervisors fail to reprimand him for the vile texts or restrain or restrain him in any way, his immediate supervisor also actually "liked" at least one of them. I would argue that the higher-ups were never interested in holding him accountable. They only want him to take the fall now that the MSP has been embarrassed.
This isn't the only case that trooper and his supervisors have tainted. I honestly feel like he should be charged.
What about the others involved. Proctors supervisors knew what was going on and allowed it!
YES, ALL NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED. 🤔😤😡
Not to mention the "physics & stuff" guy. He might not be corrupt, but CLEARLY incompetent & way over his head.
of course nothing will happen to them lol, they are just blaming this one guy and everyone is falling for it
@@11C1PThe only person I’ve ever seen who I would describe as “criminally stupid”.
The DA's office is just as culpable. More, in fact. The State better be coming down on that office, not waiting on the feds. The feds can take the second shot. But the DA's office as a whole is corrupt and complicit. These are longstanding patterns of widespread, commonplace corrupt investigations and prosecutions, as well as both of those as it pertains to protecting coming LEO'S. Disgusting.
With how freely Proctor was speaking in text, it's a guarantee that he's not the only corrupt one. They have just been getting away with it for a very long time
Every case that this trooper touched is tainted, and the MSP has suffered irreparable damage due to his bad decisions and the poor decisions of his supervisors. Shame!
I AGREE 100 PERCENT
Totally agree
Nah. Standard operating procedure. Nobody wants to look at facts except the people who've been victimised.
Wait til you find out about the drug lab...
Do tell!
This is Massachusetts… MSP Colonel, DA Morrisey, Canton selectman John Connelly have zero self control. Does the Colonel look like he could run across the street? They all eat and drink away the taxpayers $. Sad.
All crooked MFs
They all should be investigated
Enough is enough! Something needs to change, but I don’t know how that can happen with such widespread corruption.
You mean drink + eat. Priorities...
Internal affairs = Police investigating themselves. Worthless.
Fox guarding the hen house?
Police integrity means “keep it off camera.”
Bingo!!
100% correct.
So, who would you suggest? The FBI, the doj? Both of these departments are not trust worthy on anything. Both directors of the FBI and doj are liars if you haven’t seen them in the congressional hearings, I would hope you know this.
Why did it take over a year to conplete an IA investigation? Knowing all you knew about this corrupt cop, you still sat by and let the trial play out with the possibility of an innocent woman going to jail.
Poor John O. He will never have justice because of these corrupt officers. I don't know how any of them can sleep at night.
Narcissists have no trouble sleeping
@@JulieRushworth true.
Yes it’s all their fault we will never know the truth.
Locking Karen up is on the way. She IS the hateful killer. No other way to explain her insane abnormality that night. She counted John exposure in cold without coat as a punish that is why she asked Jennifer to Google. She risked john's Life for her rage. This damn dangerous woman deserves the highest conviction under the law.
@BostonNanna I think we might some day.
He wouldn’t have done a thing if she’d been declared guilty. Says a lot about how they operate.
For those of you not following the trial, he used the terms he did in a group chat with his boss and fellow officers while they asked him if he found undressed photos of Karen Read on her phone that was in evidence. It’s clear the whole department is garbage and promotes that kind of behavior.
No doubt
Fire Brian Higgins too
100% agree. Slime ball
Higgins did it
@@PJTYLER they were all involved!!
He's a liar he should have been fired how come he hasn't been. The hardworking taxpayers deserve better than you.
“It’s not reflective of the Mass. State Police!” -- Oh please!!
Exactly! He wouldn't have felt comfortable texting the vile things he did if it was frowned upon by his supervisors. This tells me that the culture within this agency is less than professional and ethical.
There should be an outside investigation into this state, the federal government owes the citizens of the state.
It wasn’t JUST his comments! His conduct as a whole is indicative of a culture of deceit. He is not the ONLY bad apple!
What about the cops that went drinking in Sandwich in a cruiser and lost gun and badge?
That was Trooper Proctor and a Canton police officer (an Albert). So this guy isn't the boss of the Canton cop. Officer Albert needs to be fired for his actions you're referring to.
You made the decisions yesterday only! It is only because it got out that you are pretending to do something. You are liable too!
Will these be the same investigators who investigated all the cops who stole overtime pay and let them retire with pension
Same thing in grant county washington state..overtime
Fire NO pension
What was it, 16 of them?!!
Same thing in Lincoln. County wa..im at chrissharpeworld
Yep, same ones.
He’s protecting his pension too. We all know. There will be no real change.
That whole pack needs to be put in their place....jail!
100 % AGREE !!!
This guy himself should be fired. Investigate all of these dirty evil cops.
Fire him!!
Cannot be fired. MSP union too powerful on Beacon Hill. ALL LE in MA are corrupt.
This guy's a joke just like the rest of them. Remember he was texting his bosses
I wonder if it’s occurred to him he’s taking the wrap for the Albert’s or if he’s that stupid he’s willing to do it.
@user-jq1so5vd2iof course, union protected trash!
Why now? Clean the house, he didn’t acted alone. This feels like if they would have been able to “pin it on the girl”, nothing would have happened. They waited to say something after the mistrial. Respect the trial process sounds like a joke, so allow a person to go through that anguish, spend so much in defense, tax dollars used in that circus, when they could have been open and say the investigation didn’t fulfill protocol since the beginning.
What a load of crap, he is just saying what he thinks he should. He will probably have a drink with Proctor later on!
This!! 👆👆👆
I'm sure he was at the VFW of the other night
A drink? Nah, most likely 5-6 drinks!!! Of course he will and then will get behind the wheel of a state police vehicle and drive home.
100% he’s one of them. The only thing they’re sorry about is being caught and now having to answer to the taxpayer.
what he means is, they have zero tolorence once they're caught.
Due to Michael Proctors misconduct we’ve decided to rehome him!
Gawd!!!! Right!?!?? A buncha hot air!!!!
The McAlberts need to be rehomed! Haha!
guaranteed he walks away with his full pension and benefits..... disgusting
@melanieragadio2018 Pretty sure BA retired right after JO’s death.
Behind the thin blue wall
They have been scandal plagued for years. This case just shined a huge spotlight on them.
I guarantee this guy is just as bad as Proctor. If it wasn't for the trial, Proctor would still be working for this guy.
He was ALLOWED to be a bad/corrupt cop, maybe even encouraged...too bad for all the good troopers.
Then condemn those that participated with Proctor
Fruit of the poisoned tree? "If you tolerate this, then your children will be next" as the song goes.
They kept him in his position through the trial KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT HE HAD DONE, because they wanted KR convicted to weaken her in a lawsuit.
You need to fire your loser Trooper. He framed that poor woman.
Absurd. All relevant evidence clearly proves that Karen Read killed John O'Keefe
Technically, the
Mc Albert Higgins gang framed Karen Read.
Proctor Trooper is just a tool that they used to do the framing. Proctor is expendable.
They are absolutely reflective of the Mass state police. There was more than one cop in the chats and it was all accepted. That is a culture of this behavior
If you want to gain the people's trust again, Proctor needs to be fired, not transferred. He is still being paid. Ridiculous!
He is due due process like everyone else. Not excusing what he did but he is warranted the same due process we all are guaranteed to have.
Agree 100%
He's got a hearing coming up he will definitely be fired as he should of been 2 years ago
Police union is HUGE and there's rules in a union that are followed...due process etc
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Crude texts aside, what is MSP doing to improve their accident reconstruction training, policies and procedures? Trooper Paul has to be the worst expert witness ever. I think the defense did not object to his testimony because he was so woefully inept, uneducated and unprofessional.
He also has to be accountable. He impersonated knowledge he clearly doesn’t have, with the purpose of convicting a woman. That is also planting evidence.
I speak police let me translate --- We knew for years how bad Procter was but now that it's been brought to national attention we have decided to finally do something about it to save face with the public. there's nothing to see here the rest of the force is 100% honest.
Very well said TY
THANKS FOR TRANSLATING OINKS ARE HARD TO UNDERSTAND !!!
This!! 👆🏻👆🏻
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
We are going to move Proctor to a less visible position until the media attention dies down.
"This is totally normal for us. I condemn these commets only because you found out. We are doing our best to get this trooper retired with full benefits as soon as possible"
Gotta love it. We will not tolerate any misconduct which is why we will not fire Michael proctor and instead assign him to a brand new department where no one knows of his previous misconduct.
exactly. all talk no action.
We know and so does the 1A community who is watching closely. Sounds like this police department needs a good audit. 😅
All incidents like this require labor law considerations that ensure due process steps for employees. Any violation of labor laws could make it harder if not impossible to get rid of him.
Protector knows too much
Oh they know everyone in america knows
They are focusing on Proctor but his supervisor did not say a word telling him to stop he should be gone also
In other words he really means. We were hoping this trial would not be a National event. Therefore we did nothing. Now we are forced to cover our tails and investigate ourselves.
We're going to investigate ourselves and determine that we are right again
Ya how far do you think that “investigation “ will go,,,no where. They’re hoping tomorrows news will blow this under the rug
Why does he still have a job? His bad conduct towards women is unacceptable! What about other cases he investigated?
There are steps they have to go through to get rid of him. It's in the works.
He'll attend some sensitivity classes ...
Cannot be fired. MSP union too powerful on Beacon Hill. ALL LE in MA are corrupt.
And NO pending. Fired
No pension
This man should be ashamed to call himself a leader. Proctor and proctor boss should have been fired immediately! Period
The only reason this happened, this case was nationally reported on - if it were a public defender and she were poor - all the manufactured evidence - the texts and unprofessional behaviors and attitudes in the culture of the Dept. wouldn't have been exposed nationally. The Trooper and DA would have gotten a Atta Boy and onto the next case.
Sandra Birchmore case coming!
Proctor doesn’t need a new home he needs to be prosecuted!!!!
Drop all charges of Karen Read
Right? How can they possibly re-try her after the lead investigator has been taken off duty for misconduct related to her case? It's evil.
Doing that would mean they would have to actually go after the people that really killed O'Keefe , are you nuts ?
The state police are only doing this because this became widely public. It’s obvious that Procter was encouraged by coworkers and bosses. He’s just the sacrifice.
I wonder if Proctor will sing? It’s funny how the colonel talks about being professional. Officer Proctor wasn’t a professional.
She confessed. Wow you’re blind. She literally confessed
Standing Proctor down with full pay from the public’s purse… how is this improving the public relations for the entire force????
What a travesty of justice, how did the jury ignore the science from Dr Wolf! The mind boggles
Exactly !
@@NYC2023-du8mgSomeone was in the jury who had connections of some sort with the police! how else could they ignore the plow driver, dog marks and experts the FBI use?!
Im sure some juries were either paid or intimidated by McAlberts
What, you're not buying what The Commonwealth, through Adam "Mumbles" Lally and Trooper "Crime Scene Whisperer" Paul, tried to sell the jury, that Karen Read backed her SUV up into John O'Keefe at 24 mph, striking him in the arm and catapulting him 10+ feet onto Brian Albert's lawn and that the cuts on John's arm were from a broken tail light and not, as they clearly seem to be, from dog bites and scratches? Shocking.
The story is there was an ex cop on the jury and the judge picked him as the foreman.
The biggest disgrace is that they didn't honour John Okeefe, he was an officer killed and what they did was disgusting. Watching from Australia
The odesity of this guy to talk about accountability and due process. There needs to be an EXTERNAL investigation of the whole MSP, from top down.
"audacity"?
@@betford2 yeah you're right, I do it always wrong, english isn't my first language
Very well said. Owning the problem is a huge step in building trust with the folks in Massachusetts. You’ve already started gaining respect for your organization in showing a level of transparency publicly.
They all have to go. Police investigating the police is failed policy
Hos long before Proctor is not only fired but also brought up on charges?
Smoke and mirrors. They knew about this and did nothing until after the trial. They didn't fire home. They rehomed him and he still gets his full salary and pension.
That's not good enough! Taxpayers demand Proctor fired!
So, I guess his supervisors are next since they absolutely knew about and even participated in those text messages?
His supervisor was tampering with the car in the sallyport
In other words- "when we're in full crisis mode and are receiving unbearable scrutiny and pressure, we will take the absolute minimal action possible and continue deflecting and being vague in our responses to the public who has nearly lost all confidence and faith in us"
He needs to be fired, too. And every single case that the MASS state police have investigated needs to be re-investigated!
I agree he needs to be fired, but they can't fire him immediately. There's a process. This explains it well: A lot of people are getting the idea that the "transfer" language means they are just sending Proctor to another post and that's it. That's not it. There is a process involved in terminating a Mass State Police and it is NOT immediate. MSP are union. The union and MSP have an agreement that if an MSP is relieved of duty at one post, they will be transferred to another post to work temporarily. They work at that other post/district until a duty status hearing takes place. At that status hearing, they will decide the disciplinary action they will take. They can A- Keep him on with pay B-Put him on restricted duty C-Suspend him with pay D- Suspend him without pay. I do not know if they have set a date for the hearing. In most cases, the union will hire an attorney to defend him.
Years too late and he’s not fired entirely ridiculous
ALL these bad actors in this case, Common Wealth, ATF, PD had better be heavily investigated by the FBI and DOJ. Specifically, the chief and Brian Higgins.
They knew what he did before the trial even started, and they tolerated it until we knew
The whole world is watching this circus
Watched trial from Montana. Way too much reasonable doubt to convict KR. And Lally said he is going to retry her! WTH. Math and physics don't lie, but the witnesses for the Commonwealth sure did.
Dam right I'm from Canada
@@lindagabovic1966 Montana here
Watching from UK
Proctor straight up framed Karen Read
What about the others that allowed it and gave 'thumbs ups"?!
They are just throwing only Proctor under the bus, but we know they are lot corrupt troopers there and good ones can’t speak up
Proctor and his supervisor showed unprofessional conduct! Drinking on job while operating a state vehicle should have been enough along with the texts!!
Terrible terrible conduct that cost this women’s family a freaking nightmare !!!!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤢 What about the others ?????????
KRs terrible conduct caused the death of a police officer.
@@Barb417Prove it.
@@Barb417 The alberts murdered a police officer
@@Barb417 I haven't seen a shred of actual evidence that tied her directly to his death. Pieces of tail light that miraculously broke several times in evidence, the lack of a proper crime scene, the expert witnesses who stated it wasn't possible for O'Keefe to have died from a car accident, nor to have died from getting hit by a very precise part of her car in those conditions all prove it wasn't death by Karen Read. More happened here but the State Police and DA's Office aren't willing to uncover the truth because it will bloody their department and office more than they already are at this time. The real victims here besides John O'Keefe are his niece and nephew who have lost yet another parent.
Ok boomer @Barb417 why did the jury get it wrong? Slurp those boots.
And prosecute those committing perjury / perverting the course of justice on the stand. Most of prosecutions witnesses LIED. How can they dare retry?
Mawn needs to be fired along with Proctor. The entire State Police system needs to be torn down and rebuilt with someone from the outside taking over to make sure it's not the same old song and dance. Enough with the scandals, enough of these meaningless speeches from Mawn declaring things are going to change. Healey Needs to actually stay put in the state she claims to govern and do her job. She's jetting around the globe on her self promotion tours while the state police once again looks like a clown show.
Bring a leader that has a proven track record of cleaning up! This goes beyond MPD to BPD and Canton PD as well as DA's office. The entire system is rotten.
Don't forget that a few years ago the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down and disbanded for pervasive and frequent over time fraud from the top down. They were collecting pay and overtime for hours that news reporters had them on camera in Pajamas taking out their trash! Smh 🤦♂!!!
He is the problem. If he were smart he'd retire before the dragnet.
@@kevc6115 dont forget that the ENTIRE Troop E was shut down a few years ago for pervasive top down overtime fraud. News reporters had Troop E people in pajamas taking out trash at time they claimed and were paid overtime 🤦
Amen!! 👏👏👏👏👍
I love it when mob bosses put on a suit and appear in public pretending they’re not in charge of large, violent criminal organizations.
What about the whole department, he is the scapegoat…
I hope the internal affairs is being investigated by the FBI!
I wouldn't put too much faith in them either !
@@tonystevenson26 right!? We are in a widespread chronic state of distrust at this point. It’s really disheartening.
lol like the FBI is trustworthy?
Who's gonna investigate FBI?
@@jeanettecoleman-mz7ie it was the FBI who tipped off the defense in the first place… Hopefully, they can get the job done. 🤷♀️
Mawn needs to be FIRED!!!
They tried to set that woman up
Still may go to another trial. They won't stop till she's in prision!
Of course, most people aren't guilty of half of the charges they get some are completely innocent
@@koconnell271we’ll see about that. Talk is real cheap.
They DID set KR up! Hence the trial.
Proctor is NOT the only one - Tully, Paul, Bukenik are next.
Of course the MSP tolerates (encourages) misconduct, evidenced by Proctor's continued employment with them.
They need to stop all the troopers who drink and drive, because they feel they won't be held accountable!
Bunch of BS. Proctor, his supervisors and Trooper Paul need to be "Re-Homed" to flat foots in the community.
Trooper Paul is barely able to string together a full sentence.
Can Mawn pass a fitness exam? Actions speak louder than words!
What about Sandra Birchmore homicide!
I think it's EXACTLY representative of MSP. Look at how they ALL behaved in the Karen Read case! Actions speak louder than words, Sir.
This is the walk along speech.... he's telling you what you want to hear as he walks you out the door!!
They are going to hide him in the back, with full bennies, until the public forgets about him
THIS IS WHO LEO IS
Hos long till Jennifer McCabe admits that she did that search at 2 am. Hos long till you figure out who is really responsible for John O'Keefe death?
A retired FED said FBI knows Brian and Colin Albert killed John O in the basement.
Proctor was saying those disgusting things in group chats with his supervisors. So obviously, he only fired Proctor to protect himself. This is a problem with the whole department.
The problem is that Proctor was not the only one involved with this misconduct his boss was also involved, and other officers as well.
Higgins as well
Yes, there is a Zero Tolerance Policy, only for Tuesdays and Thursdays, all other days we tolerate 10% Incompetence and Un-Professional conduct for texting to our co-worker's, especially if we find naked pictures on cell phones......
If you are worthy of trust then you must admit that the video of Mathew Farwell entering that apartment are suspect as hell. I am no TB rider, but c'mon those 3 cops from Stoughton are on another level of evil.
Justice for Sandra
You didn’t fire him though did you?
Nope. Once all the dust settles, he'll be back to his regular "duties". Worst case scenario for him is he gets a job at a different agency.
exactly/
The state police in Massachusetts need to be investigated!!! This is BS!
They need to do the same to his supervisors who were on the text feed. This is unacceptable.