You know what I hate worst part about this show is that I haven't seen a character so selfish, narcissistic or insecure and a superhero show since Homelander from the Boys
@@marcelcjr9313 Homelander: I AM BETTER! *Soy-Hulk's arm is healed because of Jen* She-Hulk: Because I'm Better than you. Soy-Hulk: I would day "different" She-Hulk: But in a better way. Difference?
I watched these episodes with a female friend and she frickin buried this storytelling, rolling her eyes and shaking her fist and everything. It was hilarious. But she also had stories to share about people she knows who really are like that, annoying and entitled. I think the writers are not trying to make She Hulk annoying per se; they genuinely believe it and/or that there is a massive market for this sort of stuff. Always fun to watch your videos, Alteori!
This is a show made by single, entitled, upper-middle class career women in their late 30s ekth no self-awareness of the world around them, made for single, entitled, upper-middle class career women in their late 30s with no self awareness of the world around them. She-Hulk is basically just their self-insert/power fantasy. They don't know the charavter apart from random decontextualized references from the comics they were given to insert for meaningless fan service. The real Jen Walters is fun, well-rounded, sassy, but in a flirtatious way and not the "sarcastic" way, and kind, especially to her cousin Bruce, who she actively goes out of her way to help. She doesn't have Hulk's split personality problem because that is a product of Bruce's childhood trauma. She is much more well rounded, and because she knows her cousin and his problems, she treats him decently like a human being, understands the immense struggles and traumas of his history, and does what she can to be there for him. She doesn't bust his balls and talk trash about him, she's a sociable person who works well with teams, and she's not a high-strung, high-maintenance, perpetual victim like this show's Jen is. You can argue that it's bad that she's a tokenized character and not someone more original, but she is, when written well, anyway, a good and endearing character (at least until relatively recently when feminists took over the character like they did with the show). These people making this show (as well a lot of other MCU stuff these days) do not know, do not appreciate, and don't care to properly educate themselves about the main character or any of the characters of their show.
@@Tyler_W You are 100% correct sir, if you watch the interviews with the shows head writer on the Marvel TH-cam channel she talks about (regurgitates) talking points about the comics and gets lots of facts wrong about them while saying she's a big fan of the comics. Proving she never read them and she doesn't know squat about she hulk.
Clearly she's proven wrong by the end of the episode and it's the start of her hero's journey. Not defending the show's shortcomings, but this shouldn't count as one (yet).
@@lex_rodriguez She Hulk is a female character.......so they will skip character development....thus creating a inferior product....and then they will blame my soggy knee when comic fans don't like it.
9:15 Ah yes, Bruce Banner, such an easy life he's had. Raised by an abusive father who killed his mom in front of him, got turned into a rage monster, the product of an experiment commissioned by the government who Then proceeded to hunt him because of it, he lives in constant fear of hurting someone, got marooned on an alien world for years, and of course witnessed Thanos dusting half the universe. Life was good to old Bruce.
That's not even half of the shit he's gone through in comics I tell you what nobody deserves the status of a hero more than the Hulk, cause even after all that he still helps out and tries to save people, even if every other hero (except for Spiderman) would turn on him on a dime and beat him senseless for so much as walking down the street when he's not needed against a bigger threat. The Hulk gets no love, not in comics and not even in the real world where people say he's toxic masculine or some shit like that, its truly sad.
Alteori. The definition of a wise, smart, and equal hearted female who sees it how it really is and not just through the colored lenses of the loud radicals. People like you alteori are priceless. Keep up the excellent work. 🌟
18:50 Jennifer caused the car accident because she was not paying attention to the road while driving, got both Bruce and her injured and got his blood on her. It is 100% her fault she is now She-Hulk.
This was refreshing to watch, especially after watching Angry Joe try to defend his opinion on the show and that cringe scene. Hearing Alteori, a woman, explain the hardships that men go through is also very appreciated.
The fact that it is a rare thing for us women to do speaks volumes. I love my dad more than ANYTHING else in the world and I watched as my mother belittled him and the minute he spoke up to tell her how she was treating him OR us, she punished him. I've seen my peers do it to their SOs and the shit you hear females say behind closed doors... whew! They have a nerve to criticize locker room talk but I have heard MUCH WORSE things including "lighthearted jests at poisoning one of their boyfriends". Seriously, tf? It's like some of these women forget they have fathers, brothers, uncles, and sons.
@@Alteori Dang, I'm sorry your dad went through that and you had to witness it. And I agree, many women now a days really take men for granted yet still preach about being the victim, while completely ignoring males who've been wronged or mistreated. I just recently watched some videos from justpearlythings, and seeing some of those women still disregard men's hardships with their twisted conflicting logic was baffling to say the least. Which makes it even more aggravating when our sources of entertainment and escapism continuously lecture us about how bad we are. It doesn't help when you hear this everywhere now a days and when people call it out, they are scolded and berated as "incels" or "anti-woke snowflakes". I just want a good story, likable characters, and not have to be reminded of woke or modern politics. Thank God there are a handful of good content out there like Primal, The Boys, and Invincible. Either way, you're videos are great as always Alteori, keep up the good work! ;)
@@Alteori, just so you know this isn't the She-Hulk that the *real* fans wanted. She was actually a likeable character. She's She-Hulk in name only, Jenn was shy, timid, not confident, *before* she became She-Hulk. She had better control, she was weaker than Hulk though. She thought that being a superheroine was awesome and she loved it. She-Hulk is like the opposite of the Hulk. The Hulk is like Bruce 's inner self and it's the same with She-Hulk. I suggest if you have time to look up the actual character. Which is more than what the showrunners did, because they admittedly themselves that they barely used the source material and that they didn't like it. They said that used Ally McBeal and Legally Blonde as inspirations, and they changed the origin cause it was too hard or something. Bruce saves Jen and he gives her an emergency blood transfusion. Jenn was working a case that involved the mob in the comics and they put attempted to put a hit out on her. Bruce saved her, it's much more interesting. Read the *classic* comics, cartoons, video games, of She-Hulk to get a real feel for the character. This show had upset *real* fans of her character.
You know, there is something to be said when Men cannot even defend their own Sex without immediately being canceled or call misogynistic and with media constantly telling them that they are trash and treat women horribly and that they need to be taken down a peg by a strong woman. That it takes a rational and kind hearted woman like Alteori to remind us that not all Men are like that. In fact a vast majority of Men are not like that. Men deal with so much and have to bottle up so much, because if they dont, anyone could use that to destroy their lives. I mean just look at Johnny Depp, all it took was one word from Amber Heard for him to be kicked out of several movie franchises immediately, whereas its only now, after how many court cases and mountains worth of evidence for people to finally get that Amber Heard is not a good person. I am not saying that women dont have it rough. There are clearly Men who do horrible things to women and those kinds of Men are scum. But not every man is like that, yet most modern women will assume a man will be that way before they even know him.
9:32 Yeah... The problem is not that men have more anger to control, or testosterone makes men angry... rather, the issue is that she doesn't control her anger... at all... Wasn't she just trying to hulk out and kill several men just a scene ago JUST FOR HITTING ON HER!?! I don't know... Maybe she was in control... Maybe she wasn't angry... I don't know what her emotional state is when she murders random men outside bars, so she could have been ecstatically happy for all I know.
Apparently proper controlling of anger is only for men nowadays, I really hate how She Hulk has been degraded this way into being an entitled angst ridden feminism character just like all the others who complains and bitches about men so much. She was so chill in older comics, her inner self was all about confidence and self empowerment it was already inspiring. Its kind of the one thing that she has over Bruce is that being a Hulk did nothing but help and make her life better.
@@kennethsatria6607 Not just She-Hulk, sadly... Seems like every female character they make these days is a "stunning and brave trailblazer" who is just clumsily rehashing tired tropes that other shows crushed decade ago without being patronizing drivel. I just rewatched Thunderdome... It's insane the level of strong female characters the 80's produced that made a person like them rather than hate their guts. Where did those women go?
From what I know, and take that as very anecdotal, from my man - I think men tend to react with 'anger' 'aggression' or 'confrontation' much more than females when confronted with a problem. We females tend to be more anxious and cautious, while men are more confrontational. One could argue, that higher testosterone suppresses or overrides anxiety and fear. Which makes sense for a creature that's supposed to be competitive with each other, protect the weaker members of its species and hunt for big, dangerous prey.
1 minute 32 seconds in, that guy didn’t do anything misogynistic, he’s a fellow lawyer who thinks he would do a better job. There is no evidence he wouldn’t treat a man that way. In fact that’s the nature of high powered jobs, you always have competition breathing down your neck.
Comic book she hulk is still more awesome than the live action. Comic book she hulk didn't give a fuck, and is just a bad ass. In one comic after she had a one night stand with Hercules, people found Hercules wandering the street all delirious or something not really knowing where he was naked. And everyone was like "oh so you were with She-Hulk last night weren't you" and he was like "yeah..... Will she call back?" And they tell him pretty much the equivalent of "bro, she never calls back" it's just gold. I will admit that as far as looks are concerned compared to the comics they actually look pretty similar and I'm genuinely surprised by that, good job studio for that casting. Now if only they could keep it non-political but this is a Hollywood movie/show now so that's almost impossible Which is why I absolutely hate the "I control my anger infinitely more than you" scene. Bruce banner got so low at some point he tried committing suicide. Was hated and hunted for most of his life his father was absolutely awful and the cause of why he is the hulk essentially. On top of the having to control his rage so he doesn't hulk out and hurt people around him stuff since then up until the point he became professor hulk... And people are applauding her for that because of the "oh but I'm a woman" thing... That's extremely disrespectful and honestly very insensitive of her. (But as I said earlier this is a Hollywood She-Hulk so she's going to be political to the point where it's absolute cringe and disrespectful and hypocritical)
The show could have been good.. people were complaining scenes of why she hulk is better than bruce, but if you actually watch and analyse the episode you'll understand. When they were throwing rocks, bruce gets a point cause he throws a massive bouldèr into space. She hulk is more flexible cause Hulk's body is massive and brute like. The clap scene on the other hand, is that hulk can create a shock wave, which would make anything close to the shockwave fly, while she hulk can create... a sound wave? Idk the term, but basically her claps are painful to the ear, but doesn't have much knockback. The only scene that ruined the show is the one you mentioned 💀
I get the impression the creators of this show all have a chip on their shoulder. They either only have bad experiences with men, or can’t get a boyfriend. This show is a means to funnel that frustration.
For me personally it just falls between Hawkeye and Mrs marvel. At this point I feel like a huge amount of people are experiencing superhero fatigue. Especially with the mcu cause with the way that the writing and quality is going with their content it’s just not it anymore. Seriously wish they had just taken a break after endgame to actually plan their next saga. With Disney at the helm their forcing companies like marvel and Star Wars to pump out as many products as they can to maintain control over the entertainment industry. Because of that shows like she hulk end up just being mid and mediocre. Not saying anyone can’t enjoy it but that’s just what it is. Sooner or later tho the genre itself may become played out like the western genre was.
It's not superhero fatigue, because people love the boys etc people are just tired of marvel because all they do is put political stuff in their movies and yes political stuff have always been in movies but it wasn't one sided heck they didn't even pick a side all they did was talk about how the government is hiding stuff from us and how they are trying to controll the population, also their writing sucks now, it seems like they aren't hiring good writers just people to push a certain agenda
I don't think people are experience superhero fatigue, I think they are suffering for dogshit MCU fatigue. The modern MCU is overtly political and constantly shoving an agenda down your throat. That is tiring. Produce and write good content and no one will get tired of it. Martin scorsese has been making Italian mafia movies for 50 years but people still love them cause the writing and acting is God dam amazing.
@@syxpcotic9452 People aren't tired of Marvel or did you forget Spiderman No Way Home. People just don't like bad writing it's makes shows unwatchable.
I remember this one book called a Self Made Man it was a journalist account of an experiment she did where basically she pretended to be a man for an entire year just to prove to her guy friends that men have it easy. The first scene of the book starts off with her in therapy trying to recover from that year lmao.
"Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together." -Self-Made Man, by Nora Vincent
"I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you! " she...she DOES know he is already in Hulk form...and if Hulk takes over them hands gonna be rated e for everyone, right?
That's not mentioning that the one time we see her get cat called she doesn't hold her anger she becomes the Hulk or her version of The Hulk fully intent on beating the ever living crap out of them.
It's not even the Hulk as far as I know the Hulk is an embodiment of basically a imaginary friend a psychological Shield that Bruce came up with because his father was extremely abusive to him and his mother I believe they retcon this in the mid-2000s Hulk where I guess the father was a bit more distant and of course he does end up killing the mother but that seemed to be an accident because he was trying to kill Bruce because he knew he made something that could potentially in the world until he went insane although I think Bruce playing with his dinosaur toys and having them fight while his parents were fighting might indicate that this isn't the first time they fought and it wouldn't surprise me if the movie which was geared towards family audience didn't want to show the kid and his mother getting beat on so I really don't know
@@lilyrose1581 personally I just think that the hope is nothing more than the personification of every white trailer trash guy on Cops. In all seriousness though, Hulk is most likely the repressed anger and fear Bruce has. A separate personality that he created and channeled all the negativity into. That's why when he first becomes Hulk, he can't control him, he destroys everything he can, while he can. The only thing that snaps him out of his anger is when he sees someone he cares about about to be harmed by Hulk
I always liked the comment Norah Vincent (a lesbian author who went undercover as a man in a workplace environment for about a year) made. She basically wanted to write a book about her experience living as a man. After her experience she checked herself in for depression an basically said she was "never happier to have been born a woman". She also essentially said that man don't have it easier they have a different set of problems they need our sympathy they need our love and they need each other more than anything else.
She later killed herself too. I’m thankful I’m a woman, and I’m grateful to all the men who are so nice to women 99% of the time. It takes a lot of strength and class to pull it off. ❤
Thare is A large amount of superhero fatigue and gender bias that I think is really culminated in this show also I have been sexually assaulted by women before it’s really hard dealing with people saying that all the cant happened to me because I’m a man but thank you for creating such a good community and have a great rest your day
It makes more sense when you find out that the head writer for the show through interviews gets her facts about the She Hulk comics totally wrong which points to her never having read the comics even though she says that she is a "BIG FAN" of she hulk.
The scene that rubs me (F28) the wrong way, and undermines genuine struggles people have gone through (at least that's how it comes off), is this scene where she's talking to Bruce about how angry she gets cos men catcall her or "mansplain" things to her. Complaining how the world is unfair and cruel to her ; saying all this to Bruce, who grew up enduring physical and emotional abuse from his father throughout his entire childhood. Also her boiling like an erupting volcano pretty much telling Bruce (with FAR MORE experience with controlling his anger despite his horrific past, mind you) "I CONTROL MY ANGER INFINATELY MORE THAN YOU!" , I was just like "Yeaaaaaaah... Suuuuuuure you do. Not at all overboard and emotional, nononoooo."
@@Pherioxus> In one of the AVENGER movies, Bruce Banner talked about once being so desperate about his condition as The Hulk that he put a gun in his mouth to 'un-alive himself', _"...but the other guy_ [i.e., The Hulk] _spit the bullet out."_
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman I haven't genuinely seen an MCU movie in 10 years and I wonder if there ever has been a focus on some really serious topics like that. Kinda like DC did with the Joker movie, something genuinely tragic of that nature.
Please do nit forget that despite being incapable of killing himself without his inner hulk popping out, he was somehow put into a near lethally dangerous state in a _car crash_ of all things (opposite of how it happened in comics) and had to be saved by a regular human.
Probably the most brilliant and honest critique I’ve seen if the show so far. Came here for Primal, applauding you for She-Hulk. Keep up the good work! 😂
3:24 Walking into the bar, walking away from the bar... Real question is WHY IS SHE WALKING ANYWHERE AFTER SHE LEFT HER COUSIN FOR DEAD IN THE CAR SHE JUST CRASHED!?! She should be asking those guys to get help, not get offended that they might have been clumsily hitting on her at a bar... Seriously, am I missing something here? I didn't watch the show, don't think I really want to... But it seems like something is missing, and I'm not sure if it's a crucial scene or just any hint of talent from the writers.
When she turns and is about to attack them smart hulk tackles she hulk leading to her getting knocked out again and going to Bruce's lab Edit so in all honesty this whole bar part could've been left out
The funniest thing about that "catcalling" issue, is if you actually saw the writers, you know they have never been catcalled in their life. I think that is why they have some kind of jealous anger at it. Most women just blow it off. Not saying it is ok, but the whole concept of it, seems to really just bother the ones that it would never happen to. Has anyone else noticed that?
@@garenthal9638 which is funny because those are the men they qualify for. This is why we have to stop calling all women "beautiful" and "amazing" just for being a woman.
@@lamargordon6017 well it’s like with an athlete being “worth what ever someone is willing to pay you” if there is a guy who only likes land whale tier women. Guess what, they can now say they are beautiful because they now have value. Fat men do not have visual value. Imo beauty is all in the face
@@lamargordon6017 a woman “qualifies” for and is worth the lowest denominator man she can get. Same goes for men. So yes, a woman who is a 4 has much more worth, value, and beauty than a man who is a 6
“She is like a human incarnation of a mosquito.” Me sitting here thinking that she is a lawyer so at least that’s accurate. I agree with you though alteori, really hard to like and even root for her.
On the catcalling thing specifically, how I interpreted it is just she doesn't like being harassed? If multiple men do it to her every day it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine she eventually builds resentment to it. The whole big baggy clothes no makeup thing wouldn't fly for her either, she is a professional in corporate world so she probably has to wear at least some makeup and office clothing. I don't like to think that women have to be forced to wear specific stuff, instead of just dudes simply learn to not do undesired catcalling.
To add to your rant about that part where she says "i cOnTrOl mY AnGeR mOrE aNd bEtTer ThAn yOu" She says this to a man who has literally said "I'm always angry." Implying that Hulk is always there, knocking on that door. Sometimes trying to force his way through. And the only thing holding him back is Bruce. This show has so poorly represented She-Hulk and a lot of other shows have done to same to other heroes. I'm about done with Disney at this point.
its not even the men and women thing its the fact that it is Bruce. just look at his childhood and you will see how messed up it is for her to attack him for trying to help her.
Thank you for the kind and understanding words on what the average Joe goes through and the unfairness of it all and the double standards women act out and etc...it was really refreshing and calming to hear that from you mixed in with some of your own experiences, thank you for sharing. Next 26:39 Edward Norton is the better Banner and Hulk!
11:05 I don't know about that article. Statistically, women are more likely to initiate physical violence with partners than men, so... Seems like an unfair assertion that men are more physically aggressive. Rather, it's just noticed and taken more seriously when men get violent, largely due to our size and strength among other issues. Rather, I'd say violent men feel safer committing violent acts due to their size, while violent women are 1) less likely to act on their urges due to fear of reprisals due to their smaller size, and 2) not noticed as much nor taken as seriously due to societal views on women, with these two factors leading to the illusion that men are more violent and leaving testosterone to take the blame. Again, this is further illustrated in domestic violence where women are both far more violent and far safer in being more violent as the partners they abuse are largely weakened in their ability to respond or seek help as they will be arrested regardless of the initiator, they will likely be mocked ("You got beat up by a girl? ROFL!", the women will be seen as justified ("What did you do to make her so mad?"), and society has trained them to never hit a woman even in self-defense, while in violent crime at random they lose their leverage and become far meeker.
Recently heard Australia bemoaned the deaths of 250 women to domestic violence a year and the government shamed men for domestic violence causing 150 deaths. That means 100 of those deaths were by women. 2/5 of women's deaths to DV were caused by (presumably)
This show is just busywork for the creators. No purpose, no reason. It's just there to kill time till your shift is over. It begs the question, who the hell was this show intended? Certainly not comic book fans that want to see their favorite characters. Certainly not people that enjoy legal thrillers or sitcoms. It disappoints in every aspect. The effects look cheap, the writing is lame social-political dribble, the pacing is atrocious, and on top of that. It can't even get a well loved character right. She-Hulk is loaded with fun personality and lore. You have plenty to work with. How do you fuck up this character this bad?
For the support we are being given by alteori in this video I think we should give her an honorary man award, she's making us look better, we are just misunderstood idiots because of a surprising amount of bad apples
We went From The Badass Incredible Hulk movie back in 2008 to this horrendous cringey as hell comedy all because of an evil mouse who’s own avarice is currently getting stronger.
Thank you for seeing some of the struggles that us men have to go through in modern society. My ex has a DUI with the kiddo in the car, and still got 50% custody. The problem iwth Jen's character (aside from her obvious contradictions and hypocrisy) is that her "character" seems to be the one female character that hollywood seems capable of writing. It's beyond predictable and boring at this point.
Yeah I agree. She just comes off as annoying, entitled, and self-centered. I mean when I see Hulk on-screen I see someone hiding pain and anger. He's quite literally controlling his anger while she complains on why being a woman is worse than severe trauma. You can see in Hulk's face that he'd just rather listen than argue with his cousin. And every single time he holds back. He holds back his personal opinions, he holds back his anger, he even hold back his strength. He takes so many hits from Jen yet the only time he didn't hold back was when he got tired of Jen's bs and just threw the rock further than Team Rocket has ever been blasted off.
She Hulk: "I have to control my anger way more than you." Hulk: "Um. I've told you about the time when I was being hunted by the military 24/7, right?"
I just can't . Hulk has been my favorite comic book character since I was little and watching the TV show during it's 1st run. I've got a giant and horrible Hulk tattoo on my back that I let a drunk friend put on me as practice because I was so in love with idea of having a Hulk tattoo that I didn't even consider the quality of it. As I've aged my taste have changed and I've been lucky to have Hulk stories that have evolved and grown up with me. The MCU Hulk is no longer the Hulk. They have ruined Hulk and I'm starting to think they are doing it on purpose because they hate Hulk's fans. So by proxy of the way I feel about Hulk I can't support She Hulk one bit. I think I might get a tiny bit pissed or sad if I did.
I take solace in the fact we did get EMH Hulk between the 2008 film and these abominations of character writing, EMH Hulk is my favorite depiction. I wouldn't trust the MCU in adapting Immortal Hulk
Also the writing of Jen the lawyer, absolutely spot on. My mother's been inn the legal field all my life, as an army lawyer, civilian legal aid and paralegal, every lawyer I know is similar to her.
It's almost funny in episode one how she hates being sexualized but only recognizes Steve Rodgers, a veteran war hero that made multiple sacrifices to save the world, as a sex image and even says he deserved physical love not because of his heroic actions or being a great person but because he has "such a nice ass"
She-hulk was about a shy woman who after nearly dying got a blood transfusion from hulk which gave her confidence to enjoy her life and be who she wanted to be. Disney’s Karen is about the perfect little narcissist who sees only the bad in everything around her because the entire world just won’t bow down and acknowledge how amazing she is for being a strong woman.
Fun fact about hulks in the comics, they're all the avatars of the one below all. The one below all is the cosmic manifestation of total obliteration in the marvel comics multiverse. It hates its own existence, and blames all conscious beings for its torturous awareness. It just wants to eat and destroy the entire multiverse so it could "finally be alone." Sound familiar? I know the show owners would NEVER go there for either character. But I can just imagine how this spoilt Walters lady would react when she realizes she's nothing more than a meat puppet for a cosmic God of rage and entropy.
Your right about the whole men aggression thing it's very unfair how many of us good men get treated like monsters. And I just wish more people would see us as equals because nowadays men have it way harder then the media knows.
Thank you for making this video Alteori despite that you had no interest in this show! Great to have more female perspective that confirms most of the same things other reviewers have been saying. I think it would be great if you could make a review for the whole series. But it is up to you. Also "She-Hulk: Not as deplorable as Captain Marvel." here is the marketing tagline. xD
I'm so glad there ARE women like you Alteori. Makes me feel like maybe there's hope. I just wish you weren't such a rarity. Believe me, I know how ironic and just plain weird it sounds, but being a "white" (hate that term, we're not some monocultural hivemind) and male today is not a fun experience. If any group of people is being "oppressed" today, it's us. We're certainly discriminated against and have our issues ignored. If we're lucky. A lot of the times we're ridiculed or blamed ourselves for every adversity we face. And, to top it all off, we're told that we're sexist and oppressive for even pointing out the injustices we face. At least I didn't have to grow up in this Orwellian shitshow. I can only imagine how rough it must be for the younger lads growing up in this. No matter where you turn you're always being told that you're the villain, that everything's your fault, that you need to step aside and you're not allowed to have ambitions or want to achieve something. You're just supposed sit down, shut up and pay for everything. It's especially galling when I know from experience, just like you Al, that women can be every bit as predatory and prone to violations as men. More so, in a way, because when women do these things it's rarely taken seriously or it's just hand waved away with the usual "men do it more" excuse. Even though that's just not how it really is. Women who do violence are more covert and socially manipulative about it. Men who do violence are overt about it (and usually not that great at social manipulation unless they're a legitimate sociopath). Oh, yeah, this was supposed to be about the show, right? It's a poorly written/directed/acted/everything misandrist claptrap that is every bit as insulting to women as it is to men. Even the CGI is subpar for the current year. It'd be okay 15 years ago. It's a shame, because the source material is actually good. In capable hands it could have been a really good show.
It’s funny how you mentioned Vampire Dairies. Wasn’t there a situation with Caroline flipping off her humanity switch seeming though she was in complete control of her actions but, she lost control and did things she ended up regretting. As corny as VD was at times the writing was definitely better than She-hulk
thanks for this specific review alteori. i found your perspective on some of the...decisions...in this show to be fresh and welcome. and thanks for your work in general 😸
I remember being told that the CGI is actually a different type. something that is used in more video game like things, has a video game like origin where as the CDI like in the original Jurassic Park, was a different kind. basically the new and old CGI are from different Origins.
5:38 Yeah, I JUST noticed that now: She-Hulk's CGI facial look appears to resemble that of . . . the late Michael Jackson. 16:28-16:32 I wanted to see that, too! 18:24-18:44 This is basically, if Captain Marvel had only ONE episode of a tv show. This is the problem with future writers of MARVEL: they HEAVILY INSIST that they will create characters that will never struggle against stronger experienced characters-- ones that have EARNED their struggles to get to where they are now-- and be relatable because they are flawless. But by doing that, the characters that are flawless without struggling will always be unrelatable. You know what I wanna see? I wanna see characters that have EARNED their flawless skill. Like Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, Spider-Man. . . Whoever I'm missing! 22:31-22:41 NO! This is NOT how women should be portrayed in movies and tv shows! Oh! Actually, another thing I wanna see, is have a traumatic event happen that causes the main protagonist and/or title character to close themselves off from other people, having them appear as stoic people. Instead, we get none of that.
Late to the party and everything aside, the scene where the women dress her up as a "lady of the night" seriously makes me question that this was a series written by women. I went clubbing with friends regularly in my early-mid 20s and if a girl walked into the bathroom in the state that shehulk did....we would have been calling 911, NOT dressing her up as a hooker (seriously. There is something magical about the random friendships you make in club bathrooms). This seriously disgusts me that the writers assumed that other women do not have the wherewithall to read the fucking room and understand that she had clearly been through *something*...something that could not be fixed by a cheap $20 f21 faux fur jacket and a bit of a makeup.
Were women lack in physical aggression they make up for it via social aggression. Jordan peterson has broken it down quite well before. Society doesnt view social aggression as a real threat. Thats why they are allowed to ruin men with little consequences. A man slaps a woman back after she hits him. He goes to jail. A woman calls a man a rapist out of anger, he loses his job.
Am gonna leave here what the hulk has gone through. Abusive father who beat him almost to a coma (making him build up alot of anger), his father killed his mother infront of him (giving Bruce a second personality made out of anger), got gamma radiation on his body (giving his second personality a body that it can control), had to leave Betty for her own safety (he was getting hunted by the military), Black widow died, cant smash because when he gets horny he turns into the hulk so.... pp too big and hulk too wild basically, got hunted by the military for 3 years, wanted to kill himself four times but the hulk saved him, wanda mind controled him and made the hulk destroy a city, thanos beat him up, got stuck as the hulk for two years (two years in earth, alot more for the planet saakar), the infinity gauntlet burned him, got called a monster for almost 8 years before profesor hulk in end game and had to listen to jen talk.
She-Hulk in name only, apparently the writers didn't know much about She-Hulk and didn't use much of the source material, and that they didn't really research law which isn't shocking.
This whole video sums up my though on both these ep. Me and my mom both looked confused when she was talking down to Bruce also with crash scene I would made it were for a split second Bruce trun back into the raging monster seeing how his device was failing. So he pops out the car injuring his cousin in the process and once he comes to he relazied what he done so he rushes to his lab and try to save her realizing she lost alot of blood on the way and losing time and feeling guilty Bruce give her his blood saying to himself "I already lose my family once I can't lose you too" something on those lines. And boom same out come but more a stake also it be a nod to the animated show which Bruce donate his blood to save her when she was dying.
Bruce genuinly comes off as such a good character in this show or atleast comparatively to the rest of the sexist charicature of men, yes man, straw man, mysoginistic charicature of a woman (she hulk) that the rest of the cast is. hes grounded, hes positive, hes in the position of a mentor, dudes has more PHD's and degrees and specialities in science than i have fingers to count em on so he is also a healthy authority figure in the show, hes funny and he actually talks and acts like a fucking person, hes trying to calm an animal like people managed to do with him while the hulk took over, he makes a smug i told you so face when he ticks her off with the slightest prodding and poking into how HIS ISSUE is affecting her now, he pushes his cousin off a cliff cause they are fucking hulks and he knows she will be alright and its genuinly a funny moment compared to she hulk that lives up to every baselss mysoginistic assumption and strawman that you can even think of, of a woman. shes hysterical, shes over emotional, shes snarky, she blames everyone but herself, gaslight gatekeep girlbosses her way through life, shes bitchy and bossy, she has no selfawareness, shes entitled, shes apathetic comparing everyone elses struggle to hers and deminshes their struggle by claiming her struggle is oh so much worse in every way (despite Bruce Banner objectively by all fucking measures having had a harder life, for context he was abused as a child, his mother was beaten to death in front of him by hus abusive father and was bullied into not testifying against him, after escaping this abusive life with his fathers future arrest and imprisonment Bruce then later gained the parasytic personality of hulk that casued his life so much serious grief making him a target to the military and the rest of the world and at the end of the day Hulk wouldnt even let Bruce kill himself to escape the suffering and torment, this went on for a total of about 15 years in that time being brainwashed to murder civilians by scarlet witch pushing Bruce deeper into depression as none of it has ever been of his willingness hes just been forced to sit back in his own life while someone else took the wheel, his depression got so bad that he decided to submit himself to the endless cosmos rather than have his friends deal with him because he saw himself as that much of a burden, he was then whiplashed around in the Infinity war and End game timepsan having any and all feeling of utility in his hopeless existence be snuffed when the hulk got whipped into place by thanos and only really managed to let go when he and hulk managed to find some semblence of peace and become doctor hulk or whatever) now back to she hulk, shes back talking, oversharing others secrets and overly intrusive into others lives behind their backs, shes a blabbermouth and a tattletale. Like ffs she tried to kill 3 guys talking intrusively infront of the bar, they were talking, not whistling cat calling or anything, they were at most intrusively conversing and she was about to KILL THEM There is an insanely good plot point in making her realise, shes just "good" at repressing her emotions not controlling and dealing with them. But naaaah the writers wont do that
I agree. The later Marvel movies and Disney+ shows have had worse CGI than ever before. I think its because Marvel is just trying to make a bunch of things at once so their CGI team isnt big enough to do all of the movies.
I like it the show! I’m crossing my fingers she goes through an arc where she isn’t so narcissistic anymore. All of your points were valid. I agree 100%. I sure cringed a lot but I enjoyed my time
Thank you for keeping it Fair & Real, Alteori because you gave me more of a reason not to watch this show. I love Hulk & She-Hulk but this isn't the She-Hulk that I know of & Mark's Hipster Hulk (Professor Hulk executed poorly just to cater to Kids, my Young Cousin who is now 13 didn't even like "Professor Hulk" either when Endgame came out). Screw Mark Ruffalo because he is a Political Diverse Nutjob like the others in Hollywood. By the way I do own the She-Hulk Origin Comic where she is far more likeable & the Dynamic between herself and Bruce is being treated like Brother-n-Sister NOT what they're trying to do here! I'm gonna be watching I Am Groot since it won't insult me by diminishing my Most Favorite Marvel Characters. By the way I love Hulk 2008 & see it very underrated but luckily there is now a Cult Following I am seeing around TH-cam👍.
Apparently, there's two types of catcalls; the classic flirting/complimenting, and some sort of trollish thing that's just done to make women feel uncomfortable; and the people complaining about it don't bother recognizing that and just treat everything the same way...
The fact that you are so deliciously objective in this review is the reason i watch your channel with much pleasure. Also it make me happy when i noticed by accident you have 500k subscribers and i realised that last time i watched that number was around under 100k haha! Well deserved by any standard! Keep up the awesome work! Edit: I trully enjoyed Vampire diaries even though it wast a chick flick, it had a developing story and managed to surprise me constantly. Even watched the spin-off Originals. At Legacies i said no. Too much identity politics to swallow for a chick flick. I gave it a one episode chance to convince me and it "didn't" dissapoint with politics. But yeah TVD and Originals were good tv shows.
What I hated about this show is how they torpedoed the original reason how JW became She-Hulk. She was shot by the mob. That would've been awesome and you set up the first big bad. Underworld crime boss hiring people like Blonski or Titania or a slue of other super powered bad guys to fight her. This way you can stick with the original source material and make it new at the same time. Show her struggle fending off the threat while trying to protect friends, family, and the like. I swear HBO or Amazon Prime should do hero movies. Show people getting knocked off or knocked up on the reg like in the actual comics, but no PG Disney + has to get their sickingly sweet Mouse Mitts on this and well make it family friendly. Where are the days of Disney when you see Bambi's mom get shot. A "hulk" show with more dialog than show, in the words of Abomination in The Incredible Hulk ; "Give me a real fight."
Great video. Thank you for saying so many of the things I am reluctant or very careful to say about my experience as a man. One correction though: the jeep is not Jen’s. It is Bruce’s jeep and Jen is so entitled she tries to take it without even asking.
As a fan of Hulk, this show turned me off in its marketing. You have only enhanced my belief in that show is not for me. That is a good thing. My stress has only grown and this kind of crap in shows is only making my stress go up. I enjoy your reviews because they are more thorough. Thank you, Alteori.
Good breakdown overall but i will say that there are times where you conflate aggresion with anger and that is just flat out false. The 2 can lead to each other in certain circumstances, but they are absolutely not the same thing and the abstract you were reading was very specifically discussing aggresion and implicitly in a way that was seperate from anger going by the wording (referring to things like rough and tumble play, which is aggressive but is not angry). Men are more aggressive, at least more physically aggressive, but I don't see any evidence that they are more or less angry. Simply that their anger manifests in more aggressive ways.
Putting aside all the Social Justice stuff this show really wants to preach, I think everyone watching this show can agree that there is some weird ass obsession with Hulk Feet in this shit.
The writers were clearly pulling the debate between who's had it harder between Bruce & Jennifer from one of the comic books where Bruce is actually saying to Jennifer that she's had it much easier than him, and she tells him about her issues as a female superhero, especially about how her looks cause a lot of objectification and even sexual harassment, with a lot of the villains she's fought groping her and such, which Bruce never had to deal with. The show failed at translating this discussion of valid female superhuman issues because in the comic book Jennifer has had a long career as a superhero and she's had years and years of such treatment, while in the show she's been She-Hulk just for a few days. This failed debate just made her look very bad and unlikable while in the comic book she's definitely got the reader's empathy. And of course it doesn't help that the internet is blowing these single bad scenes out of all proportion, when the episodes do have good moments too. I for example appreciate it a lot that the humor is paced a lot better than it was in Thor 4, making the show much more watchable than that movie.
Also, I watched this with my aunt and other family members and they really enjoyed it, but I was cringing SO MUCH that I screamed loudly without realising and my family members just looked at me like “are u ok? Do we need to get u to the hospital”
I ultimately can't wait to pay my Disney plus bill so I can watch this. I'm still a little salty about people wanting to get this show cancelled and ended up trying to turn it into a limited series in fear of it being ultra woke but seeing the direction so far I'm a little disappointed in the show because this isn't the she hulk ik or grew up with 🤦🏽♀️😭🙍🏽♀️. edit: alteori please review the boys if you haven't already, awesome video btw.
Who controls there anger more? Number 1 someone who if they get even a little annoyed they lose control of there body risking the lives of an entire city in the process and has been keeping themselves under control at all times for the past 13-15 years Number 2 A woman
I Know this video is serious and thank you for making it serious, but I died laughing because after the hulk slap in 16:24 , a Taco Bell ad played with the bell sfx timed just right
Agree with you Alteori about your relating to training intact male dogs. And you're right, not a great time in this nick of the woods to be a male with the double standards. Great video even if you had to sit through such a terrible show!
I'm a big Marvel fan, but these days I don't really feel the same excitement I felt for all of phase 3. That's not to say I haven't enjoyed any phase 4 projects! I really liked Loki, Moonknight, WandaVision, etc. I hope going forward we get more coherency between stories and the overall phase 4-6 narrative!
U my friend are pissing in the wind, Marvel and it's new found terrible characters, storytelling, and wokeness probably isn't going to generate too many more good movies and shows in the near future. The heroes journey isn't even being told correctly and there's a literal template for that shit 🤣 and the girl power movement in the genre hasn't once been told in such a way that normal humans can relate to. Also, How many more times can u watch the same thing before ur tired of it. It's like eating the same hamburger everyday for 10yrs now but u went from Ruth's Chris gourmet cheeseburgers to eating cold quarter pounders from McDonald's.
You know what I hate worst part about this show is that I haven't seen a character so selfish, narcissistic or insecure and a superhero show since Homelander from the Boys
Oof that bad huh.
Lol did you even watch the show. She literally saves people, sacrificing her job and her secret identity to the world. Life changed forever.
Titania might be up for the challenge.
@@marcelcjr9313
Homelander: I AM BETTER!
*Soy-Hulk's arm is healed because of Jen*
She-Hulk: Because I'm Better than you.
Soy-Hulk: I would day "different"
She-Hulk: But in a better way.
Difference?
Except the boys is self aware. She-hulk is about as self aware as a stalagmite.
I watched these episodes with a female friend and she frickin buried this storytelling, rolling her eyes and shaking her fist and everything. It was hilarious. But she also had stories to share about people she knows who really are like that, annoying and entitled. I think the writers are not trying to make She Hulk annoying per se; they genuinely believe it and/or that there is a massive market for this sort of stuff.
Always fun to watch your videos, Alteori!
This is a show made by single, entitled, upper-middle class career women in their late 30s ekth no self-awareness of the world around them, made for single, entitled, upper-middle class career women in their late 30s with no self awareness of the world around them. She-Hulk is basically just their self-insert/power fantasy. They don't know the charavter apart from random decontextualized references from the comics they were given to insert for meaningless fan service. The real Jen Walters is fun, well-rounded, sassy, but in a flirtatious way and not the "sarcastic" way, and kind, especially to her cousin Bruce, who she actively goes out of her way to help. She doesn't have Hulk's split personality problem because that is a product of Bruce's childhood trauma. She is much more well rounded, and because she knows her cousin and his problems, she treats him decently like a human being, understands the immense struggles and traumas of his history, and does what she can to be there for him. She doesn't bust his balls and talk trash about him, she's a sociable person who works well with teams, and she's not a high-strung, high-maintenance, perpetual victim like this show's Jen is. You can argue that it's bad that she's a tokenized character and not someone more original, but she is, when written well, anyway, a good and endearing character (at least until relatively recently when feminists took over the character like they did with the show). These people making this show (as well a lot of other MCU stuff these days) do not know, do not appreciate, and don't care to properly educate themselves about the main character or any of the characters of their show.
@@Tyler_W You are 100% correct sir, if you watch the interviews with the shows head writer on the Marvel TH-cam channel she talks about (regurgitates) talking points about the comics and gets lots of facts wrong about them while saying she's a big fan of the comics. Proving she never read them and she doesn't know squat about she hulk.
Clearly she's proven wrong by the end of the episode and it's the start of her hero's journey. Not defending the show's shortcomings, but this shouldn't count as one (yet).
@@lex_rodriguez She Hulk is a female character.......so they will skip character development....thus creating a inferior product....and then they will blame my soggy knee when comic fans don't like it.
I wish I could see your friend's reactions 🤣🤣
9:15 Ah yes, Bruce Banner, such an easy life he's had. Raised by an abusive father who killed his mom in front of him, got turned into a rage monster, the product of an experiment commissioned by the government who Then proceeded to hunt him because of it, he lives in constant fear of hurting someone, got marooned on an alien world for years, and of course witnessed Thanos dusting half the universe. Life was good to old Bruce.
Fr bro living the life
Also tried killing himself but was unable to because of the Hulk
@@aduckwithayoutubechannel Forgot about that part, thanks
That's not even half of the shit he's gone through in comics I tell you what nobody deserves the status of a hero more than the Hulk, cause even after all that he still helps out and tries to save people, even if every other hero (except for Spiderman) would turn on him on a dime and beat him senseless for so much as walking down the street when he's not needed against a bigger threat.
The Hulk gets no love, not in comics and not even in the real world where people say he's toxic masculine or some shit like that, its truly sad.
@@kennethsatria6607 agreed
I don't know a single man that would say "I'm gonna go talk to it" while referring to a woman. Not one. These writers live in a fantasy world.
But it is a fantasy world that the exact reason why the character said that in a work of fiction instead of real life.
Alteori. The definition of a wise, smart, and equal hearted female who sees it how it really is and not just through the colored lenses of the loud radicals. People like you alteori are priceless. Keep up the excellent work. 🌟
Yeeee she is a good floof and respectable
@@Zeagods-CyberShadow>>> _"floof"?_
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEmanTried to look it up. Only thing I could find was it being something used to describe fluffy animals…
@@GabesEdtiz Yes it means the same thing as "Fluffy" It is akin to spelling "Yes" as "Yas" or "Ya" or "Yis"
18:50 Jennifer caused the car accident because she was not paying attention to the road while driving, got both Bruce and her injured and got his blood on her. It is 100% her fault she is now She-Hulk.
Literally though? Like, zero accountability lmao I’m pretty sure there is a quote about that
oh yeah! That's true lol
So it's basically Doctor Strange all over again, except with collateral damage.
*insert woman driver joke*
This was refreshing to watch, especially after watching Angry Joe try to defend his opinion on the show and that cringe scene. Hearing Alteori, a woman, explain the hardships that men go through is also very appreciated.
The fact that it is a rare thing for us women to do speaks volumes. I love my dad more than ANYTHING else in the world and I watched as my mother belittled him and the minute he spoke up to tell her how she was treating him OR us, she punished him. I've seen my peers do it to their SOs and the shit you hear females say behind closed doors... whew! They have a nerve to criticize locker room talk but I have heard MUCH WORSE things including "lighthearted jests at poisoning one of their boyfriends". Seriously, tf?
It's like some of these women forget they have fathers, brothers, uncles, and sons.
@@Alteori Dang, I'm sorry your dad went through that and you had to witness it. And I agree, many women now a days really take men for granted yet still preach about being the victim, while completely ignoring males who've been wronged or mistreated. I just recently watched some videos from justpearlythings, and seeing some of those women still disregard men's hardships with their twisted conflicting logic was baffling to say the least. Which makes it even more aggravating when our sources of entertainment and escapism continuously lecture us about how bad we are. It doesn't help when you hear this everywhere now a days and when people call it out, they are scolded and berated as "incels" or "anti-woke snowflakes". I just want a good story, likable characters, and not have to be reminded of woke or modern politics. Thank God there are a handful of good content out there like Primal, The Boys, and Invincible.
Either way, you're videos are great as always Alteori, keep up the good work! ;)
@@Alteori, just so you know this isn't the She-Hulk that the *real* fans wanted. She was actually a likeable character. She's She-Hulk in name only, Jenn was shy, timid, not confident, *before* she became She-Hulk. She had better control, she was weaker than Hulk though. She thought that being a superheroine was awesome and she loved it. She-Hulk is like the opposite of the Hulk. The Hulk is like Bruce 's inner self and it's the same with She-Hulk. I suggest if you have time to look up the actual character. Which is more than what the showrunners did, because they admittedly themselves that they barely used the source material and that they didn't like it. They said that used Ally McBeal and Legally Blonde as inspirations, and they changed the origin cause it was too hard or something. Bruce saves Jen and he gives her an emergency blood transfusion. Jenn was working a case that involved the mob in the comics and they put attempted to put a hit out on her. Bruce saved her, it's much more interesting. Read the *classic* comics, cartoons, video games, of She-Hulk to get a real feel for the character. This show had upset *real* fans of her character.
Oh this is nothing new from Angry Joe. Remember that years back he defended Anita Sarkisian.
Just because you disagreed with what Joe said, doesn't make it wrong🤷🏿
You know, there is something to be said when Men cannot even defend their own Sex without immediately being canceled or call misogynistic and with media constantly telling them that they are trash and treat women horribly and that they need to be taken down a peg by a strong woman.
That it takes a rational and kind hearted woman like Alteori to remind us that not all Men are like that. In fact a vast majority of Men are not like that. Men deal with so much and have to bottle up so much, because if they dont, anyone could use that to destroy their lives. I mean just look at Johnny Depp, all it took was one word from Amber Heard for him to be kicked out of several movie franchises immediately, whereas its only now, after how many court cases and mountains worth of evidence for people to finally get that Amber Heard is not a good person.
I am not saying that women dont have it rough. There are clearly Men who do horrible things to women and those kinds of Men are scum. But not every man is like that, yet most modern women will assume a man will be that way before they even know him.
Preach
9:32 Yeah... The problem is not that men have more anger to control, or testosterone makes men angry... rather, the issue is that she doesn't control her anger... at all... Wasn't she just trying to hulk out and kill several men just a scene ago JUST FOR HITTING ON HER!?! I don't know... Maybe she was in control... Maybe she wasn't angry... I don't know what her emotional state is when she murders random men outside bars, so she could have been ecstatically happy for all I know.
Apparently proper controlling of anger is only for men nowadays, I really hate how She Hulk has been degraded this way into being an entitled angst ridden feminism character just like all the others who complains and bitches about men so much.
She was so chill in older comics, her inner self was all about confidence and self empowerment it was already inspiring. Its kind of the one thing that she has over Bruce is that being a Hulk did nothing but help and make her life better.
@@kennethsatria6607 Not just She-Hulk, sadly... Seems like every female character they make these days is a "stunning and brave trailblazer" who is just clumsily rehashing tired tropes that other shows crushed decade ago without being patronizing drivel. I just rewatched Thunderdome... It's insane the level of strong female characters the 80's produced that made a person like them rather than hate their guts. Where did those women go?
From what I know, and take that as very anecdotal, from my man - I think men tend to react with 'anger' 'aggression' or 'confrontation' much more than females when confronted with a problem. We females tend to be more anxious and cautious, while men are more confrontational. One could argue, that higher testosterone suppresses or overrides anxiety and fear. Which makes sense for a creature that's supposed to be competitive with each other, protect the weaker members of its species and hunt for big, dangerous prey.
1 minute 32 seconds in, that guy didn’t do anything misogynistic, he’s a fellow lawyer who thinks he would do a better job. There is no evidence he wouldn’t treat a man that way.
In fact that’s the nature of high powered jobs, you always have competition breathing down your neck.
Not to mention the fact that she still gets to make the speech instead of him taking it from her as her boss or something like that
Comic book she hulk is still more awesome than the live action. Comic book she hulk didn't give a fuck, and is just a bad ass. In one comic after she had a one night stand with Hercules, people found Hercules wandering the street all delirious or something not really knowing where he was naked. And everyone was like "oh so you were with She-Hulk last night weren't you" and he was like "yeah..... Will she call back?" And they tell him pretty much the equivalent of "bro, she never calls back" it's just gold.
I will admit that as far as looks are concerned compared to the comics they actually look pretty similar and I'm genuinely surprised by that, good job studio for that casting. Now if only they could keep it non-political but this is a Hollywood movie/show now so that's almost impossible
Which is why I absolutely hate the "I control my anger infinitely more than you" scene.
Bruce banner got so low at some point he tried committing suicide. Was hated and hunted for most of his life his father was absolutely awful and the cause of why he is the hulk essentially. On top of the having to control his rage so he doesn't hulk out and hurt people around him stuff since then up until the point he became professor hulk... And people are applauding her for that because of the "oh but I'm a woman" thing... That's extremely disrespectful and honestly very insensitive of her. (But as I said earlier this is a Hollywood She-Hulk so she's going to be political to the point where it's absolute cringe and disrespectful and hypocritical)
Honestly felt kinda bad for Hercules poor guy😂😂
I enjoyed the show
The show could have been good.. people were complaining scenes of why she hulk is better than bruce, but if you actually watch and analyse the episode you'll understand.
When they were throwing rocks, bruce gets a point cause he throws a massive bouldèr into space.
She hulk is more flexible cause Hulk's body is massive and brute like.
The clap scene on the other hand, is that hulk can create a shock wave, which would make anything close to the shockwave fly, while she hulk can create... a sound wave? Idk the term, but basically her claps are painful to the ear, but doesn't have much knockback.
The only scene that ruined the show is the one you mentioned 💀
@@jackhall4767 exactly, they almost do it right and that's what makes it hurt more...
@@jackhall4767 It doesn't matter how flexible you are, if some can clap out a shock wave then it doesn't count for shit 😂.
I get the impression the creators of this show all have a chip on their shoulder. They either only have bad experiences with men, or can’t get a boyfriend. This show is a means to funnel that frustration.
For me personally it just falls between Hawkeye and Mrs marvel. At this point I feel like a huge amount of people are experiencing superhero fatigue. Especially with the mcu cause with the way that the writing and quality is going with their content it’s just not it anymore. Seriously wish they had just taken a break after endgame to actually plan their next saga. With Disney at the helm their forcing companies like marvel and Star Wars to pump out as many products as they can to maintain control over the entertainment industry. Because of that shows like she hulk end up just being mid and mediocre. Not saying anyone can’t enjoy it but that’s just what it is. Sooner or later tho the genre itself may become played out like the western genre was.
It's not superhero fatigue, because people love the boys etc people are just tired of marvel because all they do is put political stuff in their movies and yes political stuff have always been in movies but it wasn't one sided heck they didn't even pick a side all they did was talk about how the government is hiding stuff from us and how they are trying to controll the population, also their writing sucks now, it seems like they aren't hiring good writers just people to push a certain agenda
I don't think people are experience superhero fatigue, I think they are suffering for dogshit MCU fatigue. The modern MCU is overtly political and constantly shoving an agenda down your throat. That is tiring. Produce and write good content and no one will get tired of it. Martin scorsese has been making Italian mafia movies for 50 years but people still love them cause the writing and acting is God dam amazing.
I think you’re right. Endgame is when they should’ve taken a break. Instead they went full steam ahead.
@@syxpcotic9452 People aren't tired of Marvel or did you forget Spiderman No Way Home. People just don't like bad writing it's makes shows unwatchable.
@@brothatscrazy3418 this point is proven by Spiderman NWH
I remember this one book called a Self Made Man it was a journalist account of an experiment she did where basically she pretended to be a man for an entire year just to prove to her guy friends that men have it easy. The first scene of the book starts off with her in therapy trying to recover from that year lmao.
lmao
"Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have but they don't have it better. They need our sympathy, they need our love, and they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."
-Self-Made Man, by Nora Vincent
Turns out she uh, how do I put this?
She offed herself
That book put feminists in a rage. I think the journalist who wrote that book may have been canceled.
@@ALJ9000 oh my I did not know this..that sucks to hear
"I'm an expert at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you! " she...she DOES know he is already in Hulk form...and if Hulk takes over them hands gonna be rated e for everyone, right?
That's not mentioning that the one time we see her get cat called she doesn't hold her anger she becomes the Hulk or her version of The Hulk fully intent on beating the ever living crap out of them.
It's not even the Hulk as far as I know the Hulk is an embodiment of basically a imaginary friend a psychological Shield that Bruce came up with because his father was extremely abusive to him and his mother I believe they retcon this in the mid-2000s Hulk where I guess the father was a bit more distant and of course he does end up killing the mother but that seemed to be an accident because he was trying to kill Bruce because he knew he made something that could potentially in the world until he went insane although I think Bruce playing with his dinosaur toys and having them fight while his parents were fighting might indicate that this isn't the first time they fought and it wouldn't surprise me if the movie which was geared towards family audience didn't want to show the kid and his mother getting beat on so I really don't know
@@lilyrose1581 personally I just think that the hope is nothing more than the personification of every white trailer trash guy on Cops. In all seriousness though, Hulk is most likely the repressed anger and fear Bruce has. A separate personality that he created and channeled all the negativity into. That's why when he first becomes Hulk, he can't control him, he destroys everything he can, while he can. The only thing that snaps him out of his anger is when he sees someone he cares about about to be harmed by Hulk
I always liked the comment Norah Vincent (a lesbian author who went undercover as a man in a workplace environment for about a year) made. She basically wanted to write a book about her experience living as a man. After her experience she checked herself in for depression an basically said she was "never happier to have been born a woman". She also essentially said that man don't have it easier they have a different set of problems they need our sympathy they need our love and they need each other more than anything else.
RIP Nora.
She later killed herself too. I’m thankful I’m a woman, and I’m grateful to all the men who are so nice to women 99% of the time. It takes a lot of strength and class to pull it off. ❤
I'm going to have to put a pin on this. And use this information at later date
Thare is A large amount of superhero fatigue and gender bias that I think is really culminated in this show also I have been sexually assaulted by women before it’s really hard dealing with people saying that all the cant happened to me because I’m a man but thank you for creating such a good community and have a great rest your day
It makes more sense when you find out that the head writer for the show through interviews gets her facts about the She Hulk comics totally wrong which points to her never having read the comics even though she says that she is a "BIG FAN" of she hulk.
Why must they always do this shit, fucking READ and do research or get someone else who's actually a fan
Of coarse, people who call themselves BIG FAN and then show how little informed they are
@@Zeagods-CyberShadow If she's SO INSISTENT on calling herself a "BIG FAN" of the Hulk. . . then WHY THE HELL IS SHE NERFING SAID CHARACTER?!
The scene that rubs me (F28) the wrong way, and undermines genuine struggles people have gone through (at least that's how it comes off), is this scene where she's talking to Bruce about how angry she gets cos men catcall her or "mansplain" things to her. Complaining how the world is unfair and cruel to her ; saying all this to Bruce, who grew up enduring physical and emotional abuse from his father throughout his entire childhood.
Also her boiling like an erupting volcano pretty much telling Bruce (with FAR MORE experience with controlling his anger despite his horrific past, mind you) "I CONTROL MY ANGER INFINATELY MORE THAN YOU!" , I was just like "Yeaaaaaaah... Suuuuuuure you do. Not at all overboard and emotional, nononoooo."
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Imagine telling a suicide survivor you control yourself "infinitely more than" them. I mean, just imagine that. How awful would you be if you do that?
I mean im not the one who tried to commit suicide so yea i think im better.
@@renzmanzano4010 then it's your fault he died
Didn't Hulk want to commit suicide at one point too?
@@Pherioxus> In one of the AVENGER movies, Bruce Banner talked about once being so desperate about his condition as The Hulk that he put a gun in his mouth to 'un-alive himself', _"...but the other guy_ [i.e., The Hulk] _spit the bullet out."_
@@Allan_aka_RocKITEman I haven't genuinely seen an MCU movie in 10 years and I wonder if there ever has been a focus on some really serious topics like that.
Kinda like DC did with the Joker movie, something genuinely tragic of that nature.
The inhibitor was such BS. Hulk is suppose to save her but according to the new forced rules on content he can't save her so he got nerfed.
Please do nit forget that despite being incapable of killing himself without his inner hulk popping out, he was somehow put into a near lethally dangerous state in a _car crash_ of all things (opposite of how it happened in comics) and had to be saved by a regular human.
Probably the most brilliant and honest critique I’ve seen if the show so far.
Came here for Primal, applauding you for She-Hulk. Keep up the good work! 😂
Chef's kiss on this video. Great job Alteori. I'm glad there are actual women that see the struggles that men actually go through.
3:24 Walking into the bar, walking away from the bar... Real question is WHY IS SHE WALKING ANYWHERE AFTER SHE LEFT HER COUSIN FOR DEAD IN THE CAR SHE JUST CRASHED!?! She should be asking those guys to get help, not get offended that they might have been clumsily hitting on her at a bar... Seriously, am I missing something here? I didn't watch the show, don't think I really want to... But it seems like something is missing, and I'm not sure if it's a crucial scene or just any hint of talent from the writers.
When she turns and is about to attack them smart hulk tackles she hulk leading to her getting knocked out again and going to Bruce's lab
Edit so in all honesty this whole bar part could've been left out
That's true. Also in this version does she even know banner is hulk?
@@loupblanc7944 I think the whole world knew at this point
@@mastergamerleafer Yeah... Agreed. The bar didn't seem like it added anything of value and even detracted quite a bit of it.
The funniest thing about that "catcalling" issue, is if you actually saw the writers, you know they have never been catcalled in their life. I think that is why they have some kind of jealous anger at it. Most women just blow it off. Not saying it is ok, but the whole concept of it, seems to really just bother the ones that it would never happen to. Has anyone else noticed that?
Nah they’ve been hit on. They just only get hit on by ugly guys so they see it all as evil catcalling
@@garenthal9638 which is funny because those are the men they qualify for. This is why we have to stop calling all women "beautiful" and "amazing" just for being a woman.
@@lamargordon6017 well it’s like with an athlete being “worth what ever someone is willing to pay you” if there is a guy who only likes land whale tier women. Guess what, they can now say they are beautiful because they now have value. Fat men do not have visual value. Imo beauty is all in the face
You're right. I've been cat called and I just take them as compliments.
@@lamargordon6017 a woman “qualifies” for and is worth the lowest denominator man she can get. Same goes for men. So yes, a woman who is a 4 has much more worth, value, and beauty than a man who is a 6
“She is like a human incarnation of a mosquito.”
Me sitting here thinking that she is a lawyer so at least that’s accurate. I agree with you though alteori, really hard to like and even root for her.
If you look at mosquitos at a scientific level they're pretty sick.
On the catcalling thing specifically, how I interpreted it is just she doesn't like being harassed? If multiple men do it to her every day it wouldn't be far fetched to imagine she eventually builds resentment to it. The whole big baggy clothes no makeup thing wouldn't fly for her either, she is a professional in corporate world so she probably has to wear at least some makeup and office clothing. I don't like to think that women have to be forced to wear specific stuff, instead of just dudes simply learn to not do undesired catcalling.
To add to your rant about that part where she says "i cOnTrOl mY AnGeR mOrE aNd bEtTer ThAn yOu"
She says this to a man who has literally said "I'm always angry."
Implying that Hulk is always there, knocking on that door. Sometimes trying to force his way through. And the only thing holding him back is Bruce. This show has so poorly represented She-Hulk and a lot of other shows have done to same to other heroes. I'm about done with Disney at this point.
I would like to say your assessment of how difficult it is for a guy to control his anger is quite on point. Especially as a teen.
That little rant about how difficult it is for men these days went straight to the heart. You're a great person.
its not even the men and women thing its the fact that it is Bruce. just look at his childhood and you will see how messed up it is for her to attack him for trying to help her.
Thank you for the kind and understanding words on what the average Joe goes through and the unfairness of it all and the double standards women act out and etc...it was really refreshing and calming to hear that from you mixed in with some of your own experiences, thank you for sharing. Next 26:39 Edward Norton is the better Banner and Hulk!
11:05 I don't know about that article. Statistically, women are more likely to initiate physical violence with partners than men, so... Seems like an unfair assertion that men are more physically aggressive. Rather, it's just noticed and taken more seriously when men get violent, largely due to our size and strength among other issues. Rather, I'd say violent men feel safer committing violent acts due to their size, while violent women are 1) less likely to act on their urges due to fear of reprisals due to their smaller size, and 2) not noticed as much nor taken as seriously due to societal views on women, with these two factors leading to the illusion that men are more violent and leaving testosterone to take the blame. Again, this is further illustrated in domestic violence where women are both far more violent and far safer in being more violent as the partners they abuse are largely weakened in their ability to respond or seek help as they will be arrested regardless of the initiator, they will likely be mocked ("You got beat up by a girl? ROFL!", the women will be seen as justified ("What did you do to make her so mad?"), and society has trained them to never hit a woman even in self-defense, while in violent crime at random they lose their leverage and become far meeker.
Recently heard Australia bemoaned the deaths of 250 women to domestic violence a year and the government shamed men for domestic violence causing 150 deaths. That means 100 of those deaths were by women. 2/5 of women's deaths to DV were caused by (presumably)
You gained much of my loyalty/respect (from a viewer standpoint) from this video, thank you for saying the things you said and for covering the show
This show embodies the mantra of "Don't think just consume!"
Yup
In the future humanity won't evolve in higher beings we'll turn into bull frogs to eternally devour.
What’s funny is that the music for the new rings of power trailer literally says this along with speak your own truth.
This show is just busywork for the creators. No purpose, no reason. It's just there to kill time till your shift is over.
It begs the question, who the hell was this show intended? Certainly not comic book fans that want to see their favorite characters.
Certainly not people that enjoy legal thrillers or sitcoms.
It disappoints in every aspect. The effects look cheap, the writing is lame social-political dribble, the pacing is atrocious, and on top of that. It can't even get a well loved character right. She-Hulk is loaded with fun personality and lore. You have plenty to work with. How do you fuck up this character this bad?
For the support we are being given by alteori in this video I think we should give her an honorary man award, she's making us look better, we are just misunderstood idiots because of a surprising amount of bad apples
Honestly, I think the number is surprisingly low.
No, man and women have bad apples.
The nation just hates men. No edges about it.
"Bad apples" ugh don't use that term.
We went From The Badass Incredible Hulk movie back in 2008 to this horrendous cringey as hell comedy all because of an evil mouse who’s own avarice is currently getting stronger.
I remember watching those movie when i was a kid, i would always just skip to the hulk parts cause the rest was boring AF
Thank you for seeing some of the struggles that us men have to go through in modern society. My ex has a DUI with the kiddo in the car, and still got 50% custody.
The problem iwth Jen's character (aside from her obvious contradictions and hypocrisy) is that her "character" seems to be the one female character that hollywood seems capable of writing. It's beyond predictable and boring at this point.
Yeah I agree. She just comes off as annoying, entitled, and self-centered.
I mean when I see Hulk on-screen I see someone hiding pain and anger. He's quite literally controlling his anger while she complains on why being a woman is worse than severe trauma.
You can see in Hulk's face that he'd just rather listen than argue with his cousin. And every single time he holds back. He holds back his personal opinions, he holds back his anger, he even hold back his strength. He takes so many hits from Jen yet the only time he didn't hold back was when he got tired of Jen's bs and just threw the rock further than Team Rocket has ever been blasted off.
She Hulk: "I have to control my anger way more than you."
Hulk: "Um. I've told you about the time when I was being hunted by the military 24/7, right?"
I just can't .
Hulk has been my favorite comic book character since I was little and watching the TV show during it's 1st run.
I've got a giant and horrible Hulk tattoo on my back that I let a drunk friend put on me as practice because I was so in love with idea of having a Hulk tattoo that I didn't even consider the quality of it.
As I've aged my taste have changed and I've been lucky to have Hulk stories that have evolved and grown up with me.
The MCU Hulk is no longer the Hulk.
They have ruined Hulk and I'm starting to think they are doing it on purpose because they hate Hulk's fans.
So by proxy of the way I feel about Hulk I can't support She Hulk one bit.
I think I might get a tiny bit pissed or sad if I did.
I take solace in the fact we did get EMH Hulk between the 2008 film and these abominations of character writing, EMH Hulk is my favorite depiction.
I wouldn't trust the MCU in adapting Immortal Hulk
They butchered her character too, I’m sorry to say
“I do it infinitely more than you”
She says to a dude who’s most famous quote is “I’m always angry.”
Also the writing of Jen the lawyer, absolutely spot on. My mother's been inn the legal field all my life, as an army lawyer, civilian legal aid and paralegal, every lawyer I know is similar to her.
your channel has gotten better and better each video
It's almost funny in episode one how she hates being sexualized but only recognizes Steve Rodgers, a veteran war hero that made multiple sacrifices to save the world, as a sex image and even says he deserved physical love not because of his heroic actions or being a great person but because he has "such a nice ass"
She-hulk was about a shy woman who after nearly dying got a blood transfusion from hulk which gave her confidence to enjoy her life and be who she wanted to be.
Disney’s Karen is about the perfect little narcissist who sees only the bad in everything around her because the entire world just won’t bow down and acknowledge how amazing she is for being a strong woman.
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Dang, that kinda hit hard. Thanks for the empathy Alteori.
Also sorry to hear about your experiences
I can hear it now
“Alteori is a pick me”
“Internalized misogyny”
“Victim blaming”
One of the few HONEST channels on TH-cam… you’re so right in 99.9999% of what you say
You and TSWG/Anna really have great points about She-Hulk and how unlikable the main character is! 🤦🏼♀
21:49 Let's not forget that Samuel Stern, aka. Mr Blue (aka. the Leader), was mostly responsible for the "Abomination" part.
Fun fact about hulks in the comics, they're all the avatars of the one below all. The one below all is the cosmic manifestation of total obliteration in the marvel comics multiverse. It hates its own existence, and blames all conscious beings for its torturous awareness. It just wants to eat and destroy the entire multiverse so it could "finally be alone." Sound familiar?
I know the show owners would NEVER go there for either character. But I can just imagine how this spoilt Walters lady would react when she realizes she's nothing more than a meat puppet for a cosmic God of rage and entropy.
Yo that would be a good Hulk 3 movie
I hate how she's supposed to be a hero, but when she's saving people in the first episode she's reluctant to the entire time.
Your right about the whole men aggression thing it's very unfair how many of us good men get treated like monsters. And I just wish more people would see us as equals because nowadays men have it way harder then the media knows.
I subjected my self to the first episode. Spoiler alert, I wish I hadn't.
Thanks God I didn't however I did subject myself to the Critical Drinker's video in it which wasn't that bad
@@timon6759 great choice
This is why I don't pay for disney plus anymore. I would rather the inconvenience of pirating then pay Disney to watch these awful woke shows.
@@lachlanB323 yeah, I cancelled my Disney subscription. Plenty of other shows and movies I can watch.
@@maxfordgaming9278 you're god damn right it was and I'd do it again just to hear him talk about Tatiana more
Thank you for making this video Alteori despite that you had no interest in this show! Great to have more female perspective that confirms most of the same things other reviewers have been saying. I think it would be great if you could make a review for the whole series. But it is up to you.
Also "She-Hulk: Not as deplorable as Captain Marvel." here is the marketing tagline. xD
I'm so glad there ARE women like you Alteori. Makes me feel like maybe there's hope.
I just wish you weren't such a rarity.
Believe me, I know how ironic and just plain weird it sounds, but being a "white" (hate that term, we're not some monocultural hivemind) and male today is not a fun experience.
If any group of people is being "oppressed" today, it's us. We're certainly discriminated against and have our issues ignored.
If we're lucky. A lot of the times we're ridiculed or blamed ourselves for every adversity we face.
And, to top it all off, we're told that we're sexist and oppressive for even pointing out the injustices we face.
At least I didn't have to grow up in this Orwellian shitshow. I can only imagine how rough it must be for the younger lads growing up in this.
No matter where you turn you're always being told that you're the villain, that everything's your fault, that you need to step aside and you're not allowed to have ambitions or want to achieve something. You're just supposed sit down, shut up and pay for everything.
It's especially galling when I know from experience, just like you Al, that women can be every bit as predatory and prone to violations as men.
More so, in a way, because when women do these things it's rarely taken seriously or it's just hand waved away with the usual "men do it more" excuse.
Even though that's just not how it really is. Women who do violence are more covert and socially manipulative about it.
Men who do violence are overt about it (and usually not that great at social manipulation unless they're a legitimate sociopath).
Oh, yeah, this was supposed to be about the show, right?
It's a poorly written/directed/acted/everything misandrist claptrap that is every bit as insulting to women as it is to men.
Even the CGI is subpar for the current year. It'd be okay 15 years ago.
It's a shame, because the source material is actually good.
In capable hands it could have been a really good show.
Yeah I wanted an Ace Attorney style Show but with Marvel Characters imagine how cool would that be
If hulk get's angry his shirt rips of, but it does not on shehulk, this is not true equality.
I don't want to say we have a another Batwoman problem, but we have another Batwoman problem.
For the record, the only "super hero: attorney at law," that works, was harvey birdman on adult swim.
It’s funny how you mentioned Vampire Dairies. Wasn’t there a situation with Caroline flipping off her humanity switch seeming though she was in complete control of her actions but, she lost control and did things she ended up regretting. As corny as VD was at times the writing was definitely better than She-hulk
thanks for this specific review alteori. i found your perspective on some of the...decisions...in this show to be fresh and welcome. and thanks for your work in general 😸
Glad you enjoyed it! 😃
Alteori should become a script editor for Marvel. 😁
I remember being told that the CGI is actually a different type. something that is used in more video game like things, has a video game like origin where as the CDI like in the original Jurassic Park, was a different kind. basically the new and old CGI are from different Origins.
5:38 Yeah, I JUST noticed that now: She-Hulk's CGI facial look appears to resemble that of . . . the late Michael Jackson.
16:28-16:32 I wanted to see that, too!
18:24-18:44 This is basically, if Captain Marvel had only ONE episode of a tv show.
This is the problem with future writers of MARVEL: they HEAVILY INSIST that they will create characters that will never struggle against stronger experienced characters-- ones that have EARNED their struggles to get to where they are now-- and be relatable because they are flawless. But by doing that, the characters that are flawless without struggling will always be unrelatable.
You know what I wanna see? I wanna see characters that have EARNED their flawless skill. Like Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Thor, Spider-Man. . . Whoever I'm missing!
22:31-22:41 NO! This is NOT how women should be portrayed in movies and tv shows! Oh! Actually, another thing I wanna see, is have a traumatic event happen that causes the main protagonist and/or title character to close themselves off from other people, having them appear as stoic people. Instead, we get none of that.
Late to the party and everything aside, the scene where the women dress her up as a "lady of the night" seriously makes me question that this was a series written by women. I went clubbing with friends regularly in my early-mid 20s and if a girl walked into the bathroom in the state that shehulk did....we would have been calling 911, NOT dressing her up as a hooker (seriously. There is something magical about the random friendships you make in club bathrooms). This seriously disgusts me that the writers assumed that other women do not have the wherewithall to read the fucking room and understand that she had clearly been through *something*...something that could not be fixed by a cheap $20 f21 faux fur jacket and a bit of a makeup.
Were women lack in physical aggression they make up for it via social aggression. Jordan peterson has broken it down quite well before.
Society doesnt view social aggression as a real threat. Thats why they are allowed to ruin men with little consequences.
A man slaps a woman back after she hits him. He goes to jail. A woman calls a man a rapist out of anger, he loses his job.
Am gonna leave here what the hulk has gone through.
Abusive father who beat him almost to a coma (making him build up alot of anger), his father killed his mother infront of him (giving Bruce a second personality made out of anger), got gamma radiation on his body (giving his second personality a body that it can control), had to leave Betty for her own safety (he was getting hunted by the military), Black widow died, cant smash because when he gets horny he turns into the hulk so.... pp too big and hulk too wild basically, got hunted by the military for 3 years, wanted to kill himself four times but the hulk saved him, wanda mind controled him and made the hulk destroy a city, thanos beat him up, got stuck as the hulk for two years (two years in earth, alot more for the planet saakar), the infinity gauntlet burned him, got called a monster for almost 8 years before profesor hulk in end game and had to listen to jen talk.
I love how logical you are. I was scared when I clicked on this cuz I didn't know what your views were. Keep up the great video work.
She-Hulk in name only, apparently the writers didn't know much about She-Hulk and didn't use much of the source material, and that they didn't really research law which isn't shocking.
This whole video sums up my though on both these ep. Me and my mom both looked confused when she was talking down to Bruce also with crash scene I would made it were for a split second Bruce trun back into the raging monster seeing how his device was failing. So he pops out the car injuring his cousin in the process and once he comes to he relazied what he done so he rushes to his lab and try to save her realizing she lost alot of blood on the way and losing time and feeling guilty Bruce give her his blood saying to himself "I already lose my family once I can't lose you too" something on those lines. And boom same out come but more a stake also it be a nod to the animated show which Bruce donate his blood to save her when she was dying.
Tony Stark in Heaven: I can't believe that I died for this...
You’re on point about modern cgi, it’s poop. almost everything is green screen or a cgi suit, with little to no practical effects
Bruce genuinly comes off as such a good character in this show or atleast comparatively to the rest of the sexist charicature of men, yes man, straw man, mysoginistic charicature of a woman (she hulk) that the rest of the cast is. hes grounded, hes positive, hes in the position of a mentor, dudes has more PHD's and degrees and specialities in science than i have fingers to count em on so he is also a healthy authority figure in the show, hes funny and he actually talks and acts like a fucking person, hes trying to calm an animal like people managed to do with him while the hulk took over, he makes a smug i told you so face when he ticks her off with the slightest prodding and poking into how HIS ISSUE is affecting her now, he pushes his cousin off a cliff cause they are fucking hulks and he knows she will be alright and its genuinly a funny moment
compared to she hulk that lives up to every baselss mysoginistic assumption and strawman that you can even think of, of a woman. shes hysterical, shes over emotional, shes snarky, she blames everyone but herself, gaslight gatekeep girlbosses her way through life, shes bitchy and bossy, she has no selfawareness, shes entitled, shes apathetic comparing everyone elses struggle to hers and deminshes their struggle by claiming her struggle is oh so much worse in every way (despite Bruce Banner objectively by all fucking measures having had a harder life, for context he was abused as a child, his mother was beaten to death in front of him by hus abusive father and was bullied into not testifying against him, after escaping this abusive life with his fathers future arrest and imprisonment Bruce then later gained the parasytic personality of hulk that casued his life so much serious grief making him a target to the military and the rest of the world and at the end of the day Hulk wouldnt even let Bruce kill himself to escape the suffering and torment, this went on for a total of about 15 years in that time being brainwashed to murder civilians by scarlet witch pushing Bruce deeper into depression as none of it has ever been of his willingness hes just been forced to sit back in his own life while someone else took the wheel, his depression got so bad that he decided to submit himself to the endless cosmos rather than have his friends deal with him because he saw himself as that much of a burden, he was then whiplashed around in the Infinity war and End game timepsan having any and all feeling of utility in his hopeless existence be snuffed when the hulk got whipped into place by thanos and only really managed to let go when he and hulk managed to find some semblence of peace and become doctor hulk or whatever) now back to she hulk, shes back talking, oversharing others secrets and overly intrusive into others lives behind their backs, shes a blabbermouth and a tattletale. Like ffs she tried to kill 3 guys talking intrusively infront of the bar, they were talking, not whistling cat calling or anything, they were at most intrusively conversing and she was about to KILL THEM
There is an insanely good plot point in making her realise, shes just "good" at repressing her emotions not controlling and dealing with them. But naaaah the writers wont do that
As one of the few unfortunate beings that watch this with high expectations all I can say is damn
Thank you for the words Alteori
She equaited her catcalling with bruce's persevution and suicidal thoughts? Wow I like her already!
Holy shit! I love seeing women that dont hate men (yes they are more rare than you think nowadays)
I agree. The later Marvel movies and Disney+ shows have had worse CGI than ever before. I think its because Marvel is just trying to make a bunch of things at once so their CGI team isnt big enough to do all of the movies.
I like it the show! I’m crossing my fingers she goes through an arc where she isn’t so narcissistic anymore. All of your points were valid. I agree 100%. I sure cringed a lot but I enjoyed my time
Thank you for keeping it Fair & Real, Alteori because you gave me more of a reason not to watch this show. I love Hulk & She-Hulk but this isn't the She-Hulk that I know of & Mark's Hipster Hulk (Professor Hulk executed poorly just to cater to Kids, my Young Cousin who is now 13 didn't even like "Professor Hulk" either when Endgame came out). Screw Mark Ruffalo because he is a Political Diverse Nutjob like the others in Hollywood. By the way I do own the She-Hulk Origin Comic where she is far more likeable & the Dynamic between herself and Bruce is being treated like Brother-n-Sister NOT what they're trying to do here! I'm gonna be watching I Am Groot since it won't insult me by diminishing my Most Favorite Marvel Characters. By the way I love Hulk 2008 & see it very underrated but luckily there is now a Cult Following I am seeing around TH-cam👍.
Apparently, there's two types of catcalls; the classic flirting/complimenting, and some sort of trollish thing that's just done to make women feel uncomfortable; and the people complaining about it don't bother recognizing that and just treat everything the same way...
The fact that you are so deliciously objective in this review is the reason i watch your channel with much pleasure. Also it make me happy when i noticed by accident you have 500k subscribers and i realised that last time i watched that number was around under 100k haha! Well deserved by any standard! Keep up the awesome work! Edit: I trully enjoyed Vampire diaries even though it wast a chick flick, it had a developing story and managed to surprise me constantly. Even watched the spin-off Originals. At Legacies i said no. Too much identity politics to swallow for a chick flick. I gave it a one episode chance to convince me and it "didn't" dissapoint with politics. But yeah TVD and Originals were good tv shows.
What I hated about this show is how they torpedoed the original reason how JW became She-Hulk. She was shot by the mob. That would've been awesome and you set up the first big bad. Underworld crime boss hiring people like Blonski or Titania or a slue of other super powered bad guys to fight her. This way you can stick with the original source material and make it new at the same time. Show her struggle fending off the threat while trying to protect friends, family, and the like. I swear HBO or Amazon Prime should do hero movies. Show people getting knocked off or knocked up on the reg like in the actual comics, but no PG Disney + has to get their sickingly sweet Mouse Mitts on this and well make it family friendly. Where are the days of Disney when you see Bambi's mom get shot. A "hulk" show with more dialog than show, in the words of Abomination in The Incredible Hulk ; "Give me a real fight."
Great video. Thank you for saying so many of the things I am reluctant or very careful to say about my experience as a man.
One correction though: the jeep is not Jen’s. It is Bruce’s jeep and Jen is so entitled she tries to take it without even asking.
As a fan of Hulk, this show turned me off in its marketing. You have only enhanced my belief in that show is not for me. That is a good thing. My stress has only grown and this kind of crap in shows is only making my stress go up. I enjoy your reviews because they are more thorough. Thank you, Alteori.
Good breakdown overall but i will say that there are times where you conflate aggresion with anger and that is just flat out false. The 2 can lead to each other in certain circumstances, but they are absolutely not the same thing and the abstract you were reading was very specifically discussing aggresion and implicitly in a way that was seperate from anger going by the wording (referring to things like rough and tumble play, which is aggressive but is not angry). Men are more aggressive, at least more physically aggressive, but I don't see any evidence that they are more or less angry. Simply that their anger manifests in more aggressive ways.
Putting aside all the Social Justice stuff this show really wants to preach, I think everyone watching this show can agree that there is some weird ass obsession with Hulk Feet in this shit.
Again, a female lead with no arc, much better than her male counterpart, no training necessary. And she's immediately liked instead of repudiated.
The writers were clearly pulling the debate between who's had it harder between Bruce & Jennifer from one of the comic books where Bruce is actually saying to Jennifer that she's had it much easier than him, and she tells him about her issues as a female superhero, especially about how her looks cause a lot of objectification and even sexual harassment, with a lot of the villains she's fought groping her and such, which Bruce never had to deal with.
The show failed at translating this discussion of valid female superhuman issues because in the comic book Jennifer has had a long career as a superhero and she's had years and years of such treatment, while in the show she's been She-Hulk just for a few days. This failed debate just made her look very bad and unlikable while in the comic book she's definitely got the reader's empathy.
And of course it doesn't help that the internet is blowing these single bad scenes out of all proportion, when the episodes do have good moments too. I for example appreciate it a lot that the humor is paced a lot better than it was in Thor 4, making the show much more watchable than that movie.
Also, I watched this with my aunt and other family members and they really enjoyed it, but I was cringing SO MUCH that I screamed loudly without realising and my family members just looked at me like “are u ok? Do we need to get u to the hospital”
Note, it was more of ya know when u scream into a pillow but not like a Ahhhhhhh more like an ugh time of noise
Type of noise* also for some reason I can’t edit my comments on my ipad so am gonna have to wait until the mornin to edit that…
Also I’m sometimes cringe so I can make my future self cringe (😈) and this made me cringe so much some how…..
Wow. Spitting some truth there with the social commentary. Respect
I ultimately can't wait to pay my Disney plus bill so I can watch this. I'm still a little salty about people wanting to get this show cancelled and ended up trying to turn it into a limited series in fear of it being ultra woke but seeing the direction so far I'm a little disappointed in the show because this isn't the she hulk ik or grew up with 🤦🏽♀️😭🙍🏽♀️. edit: alteori please review the boys if you haven't already, awesome video btw.
Dang being the a guy. This is the first time I have heard a women say men have it harder. Thank you.
Who controls there anger more?
Number 1 someone who if they get even a little annoyed they lose control of there body risking the lives of an entire city in the process and has been keeping themselves under control at all times for the past 13-15 years
Number 2 A woman
7:00
"Make yourself look rough."
I can't 😂
I Know this video is serious and thank you for making it serious, but I died laughing because after the hulk slap in 16:24 , a Taco Bell ad played with the bell sfx timed just right
Agree with you Alteori about your relating to training intact male dogs. And you're right, not a great time in this nick of the woods to be a male with the double standards. Great video even if you had to sit through such a terrible show!
Your channel is so great this is the closest I'll come to She-Hulk by hearing you talk about it
I'm a big Marvel fan, but these days I don't really feel the same excitement I felt for all of phase 3.
That's not to say I haven't enjoyed any phase 4 projects! I really liked Loki, Moonknight, WandaVision, etc. I hope going forward we get more coherency between stories and the overall phase 4-6 narrative!
U my friend are pissing in the wind, Marvel and it's new found terrible characters, storytelling, and wokeness probably isn't going to generate too many more good movies and shows in the near future. The heroes journey isn't even being told correctly and there's a literal template for that shit 🤣 and the girl power movement in the genre hasn't once been told in such a way that normal humans can relate to. Also, How many more times can u watch the same thing before ur tired of it. It's like eating the same hamburger everyday for 10yrs now but u went from Ruth's Chris gourmet cheeseburgers to eating cold quarter pounders from McDonald's.