The drowning experiments were a real thing. They were done to test if dogs felt "hope." The scientists would record the time it took for the dogs to nearly drown, but they'd always pull them out and resuscitate them before they died. The dogs would last longer and longer as each experiment passed, because they knew the humans would eventually pull them out again. That is why when the movie ends, the dogs see their island and keep on swimming. It's a symbol of their hope. Whether it's real or not, no one really knows.
Look up the condition of LEARNED HELPLESSNESS, where dogs were placed in a chamber where the floor was electrified and there's no place to escape. They tried to find a way out, but eventually learn that they cannot escape and sadly accept their plight and just lay there and accept the pain. Ironically, that lead to the understanding of why battered wives learn to accept their sad condition and remain quiet under their brutal husbands.
ITs been a long time but i think in the book there was no island, i think they added it to the movie so it gives all of us that moment of piece that they will make it.
Well if it weren't for dogs experimentation we wouldn't understand how diabetes works, and that a pancreatic extract would made it better, yup insulin was discovered by giving dogs huge amount of sugar, damaging their pancreas and so on ... The scientific field is polishing theyr research methods, nowday we have ethics and precise protocol for animal experiments. Reduce number Substitue (i don't remember which R is given to this in English but this is the general meaning) Research alternatives. It is tedious and long to do but hell we don't use animals to test cosmetics or effects of foods or smoke or ecc... Yup Europe has strong laws it is not perfect but definitely better than the 60s.
@Yuki la serpe True. Cruel experimentation is a beneficial evil. The only reason we know that the body is mostly water is because the Japanese in WW2 cooked prisoners of war alive until all of the water was evaporated. Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made.
Fauci was recently in trouble for torturing beagles by letting their heads get eaten by sand fleas while they were trapped in a box. So yes, they still do "experiments" like this.
It's supposed to be upsetting. The author of the book was actually an animal activist and they did change some laws pertaining to animal testing in the UK after this. The author also really liked the movie version because it used his original intended ending that the editors made him change.
@@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 fun fact the author also made Watership Down. You know the book/movie about Rabbits killing each other with weird religion, psychic visions, and fascist rabbits Also fun fact after this he made erotica. Not sure how he went from plague dogs to porn, but many it was so bleak it needed a 180
This movie was my first step into the cruelty humans have against animals, unfortunately was not the last. In a Chinese video I watched a dog skinned alive and was forced to walk in the street afterwards. That's when I realized there are absolutely horrible people on earth and it makes my blood maybe not boil but the oxy adrenaline makes me want to force end those people via whatever means I can. Dogs are our best friends how can people even think about this type of treatment.
I remember seeing videos from China where people boiled living octopuses and crabs in water, and heard a cat was skinned alive. The dog meat festival is still a real thing in China. I also saw a video where a man beat his racing greyhound to death after it lost a race. China has some serious lack of animal welfare and while there are plenty of people over there that support animal welfare, others still believe animals don't have feelings and animals are tortured to get blood into their meat to improve the taste... Its disgusting.
Sadly a lot of Asian places actually hunt stray dogs to eat them, I think it’s north or South Korea, it’s really messed up, but in the western world we have so many variations in cultures, we really wouldn’t know if someone was willing to do that here.
My mom told me that those countries eat dogs because they're starving. I said that's not an excuse, and it isn't it just isn't right for people to eat man's best friend and yet here we are
@@jediracoon5453 same, but mine was more on the weird sexual stuff like 1guy1screwdriver and goatse. Though I did also see 3guys1hammer. Needless to say nothing really effects me on the internet anymore.
@cameronbartlett856 Mine was e621. When a person asked for a video of a guy getting eaten alive by a snake just so he could satisfy his vore fetish, that's when I just stopped being as nice to people as I should have. Then one guy made a r**e fantasy video, which triggered trauma in sa victims, and he brushed it off as "good voice acting" and "not being able to tell the difference between fiction and reality." Long story short, people can be pieces of shit, and you don't owe them kindness.
I saw the ending to this film, and I'm not sure if this is an extended version or not, but there was an island at the end of the credits but It was foggy and in the distance. I found that very Haunting because you can't tell if the dogs really did make it and lives happily ever after or if it was an illusion or that the dogs died and the island was symbolic for them seeing "paradise" or heaven and the mystery and uncertainty just kills me
It's based on a book by the same author who wrote Watership Down, Richard Adams. He used real locations for his stories. It turns out, there is an island off the coast of Drigg Beach (where the dogs swam away from the soldiers). It's called the Isle of Man. So yeah, I believe the dogs made it.
It's arguably worse what the worst of humanity does to dogs because it's possible that without dog/wolves/canids, humans may not have survived up to the point that we are now. They've protected us, taught us to hunt better, etc. We owe them a debt we can never repay and the worst of our species literally abuse and torture them and see no problem with it at all.
Oh god this movie. It's quite fascinating to see a movie like this, in a age where cartoons, especially about dogs or animals were considered kid friendly, this movie came as a massive wake up call for society that even cartoons with cute animals can be for adults. And I love it, despite the horrific moments. Snitter is my favorite character in the movie. His shocking story of his tragic backstory of having his owner trying to save his dog, only to die, and having snitter feeling guilty as result.
Fun fact: The book actually has a happier ending, in the book, Snitter's owner actually lived and adopted both dogs at the end of the book. (So I heard) yet the movie decided, no that's too happy let's have them drown to death in the ocean, together.
That's because the movie is based on the original print. In the original ending, they died, since the island wasn't real, just Snitter seeing things, and Ralf just went along with it for mercy's sake. This got the author so much hate mail, that he decided to make a happy ending just so people would stop it. EDIT: corrected the part where I said "the movie was based on the re-print", that was a mistake
@@rakdos36 oh, it was his daughter? Nice, I read somewhere that it was a bunch of hate mail. Guess his daughter and Akira Toriyama's daughter are cut from the same cloth
As soon as I saw in your posts you said you watched this immediately I was reminded of that scene where they shot that man by accident and the end...omg... I started to cry in public because I remembered that when I came across this movie years ago
Actually the movie's ending is left to your interpretation I think the dogs actually died and the island is their figment of imagination of heaven also to confirm this theory if you listen to the song's lyrics at the credits it makes it more accurate
That's actually the revision, in the original ending, the island was an just and ilusión from the little dog, and the big dog goes along because he thought it be more merciful to let him hang onto that hope, knowing they were done for, but at least they could die in their own terms. The author got so much hate letters, that he did an extended ending where they are saved in the reprints
I can't man, my dog is my best friend and getting anywhere near this movie tears my heart out. I can't imagine being mean to my good boy much less what happens in this movie. I've watched one video about it and bounced out. I love my dog, he came to me when I needed him and I would not even think twice about saving him even if it meant me getting hurt. Kills my soul that these things, or at least some of these experiments, actually happened. Good boys and good girls deserve the world.
16:49 "In my head canon, he is the same Todd from the Disney universe" - Actually, no. I know the Disney movie, and it's pretty dark for a Disney movie, but "The Fox and the Hound" is a novel, a *haunting, dark novel* that matches the tone of "Plague Dogs" perfectly. So, with Todd, the authors of "Plague Dogs" obviously refer to the novel "The Fox and the Hound".
No, not necessarily. “Todd” is actually an old term for a male fox, like “vixen” is for a female. There is likely literally no correlation to the two books at all.
While I agree that using criminals for these experiments is a viable alternative, there are a lot of factors that have to come into play. One big one is a glaring issue with our justice system. There's a good chance an innocent person who was wrongly convicted could end up in these experiments.
Yeah. And what if prisons decide to also include people who have done minor crimes in the experiments? Or target minorities? Things like that. So even if criminals are used in experiments even if they committed some pretty horrible crimes, they would still have to be asked for consent for that very reason. I'm all for reducing the amount of animal experiments needed, but using prisoners without their consent isn't a good alternative because of those factors involved.
I don't feel, no pain no more, I don't feel, no pain no more..... I've left this cruel world behind and I found my peace of mind, I don't feel, no pain no more.....
I agree with Alteori 100% if someone is found without a doubt guilty of horrendous crimes they should be used for experiments not innocent animals it's a *much* better solution in many ways only positives like less innocent animals are harmed, less horrible people costing money or getting more opportunities to do more harm which would let victims & their families feel more at peace & feel more justice & it would be a much bigger deterrent for potential criminals.
Not to mention the justice system can be pretty corrupt and there is always the chance the criminal might not get a good enough sentence or even get out on bail. Though, it does make me wonder if human experimentation on criminals was ever regulated or considered at some point in human history.
As fcked up as it sounds, I honestly agree. The most destructive Criminals in society should be lab-rats instead of animals, the less destructive ppl that harm innocence everyday the better imo
Sadly it’s too inhumane for most governments, but I really do agree, the potential to actually have scientific breakthroughs, instead of torturing animals that really don’t deserve it, im definitely disappointed in the human race at times.
@void-master9077 well we kinda made the law of cruel amd unusual punishment, mostly to keep us from going down a slippery slope as far as for a society goes, it's more for us than for them
"The Plague Dogs"...one of my favorite rebuttals to those people who unironically think cartoons are "just for kids" (lookin' at you, Chapek! 😡). Sit your kids down to watch this movie and let me know how that goes. 😄
God I saw a kid when I saw this movie. It was so sad and has stuck with me since I first watched it. But knowing my weird obsession with the grotesque and morbid, I watched it multiple times. Idk if anyone else is like this.
I kid you not, Alteori, when watching that scene where the man got shot in the face, unintentionally thanks to Snitter, I was like "What the actual... ?! O_O" as it was so sudden and CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. What makes all the more gutwrenching is how Snitter and Rowf could've lived a happy and peaceful life, were it not for the positioning of the gun, which granted is partly the poor man's fault for placing it there, but my God... XD
Look up the drowned rat experiments. They are what they based Rowf's experiment on in the beginning of the movie. 1st time they throw a rat into water it swims until it became too tired to continue, it would sink and drown in a relatively short time, but if the scientist saves them before they pass out, the next time they throw the rat into the water, it will swim for an exponentially longer period of time, like unnaturally long. Some would die of exhaustion before they would actually drown. Hope is a real force that clearly, even actual animals can experience and it can supercede even adrenaline and fear.
Tis not the darkness I fear, but the teeth that come before it. - Tod (from the book) I’m not sure if it was ever shown in the film (probably not), but there’s actually a scene in the book that shows that Snitter’s hallucinations may be more than just mere hallucinations. During their time with Tod, there’s actually a scene in the book where Snitter is wandering around on his own among the moors and comes upon a female dog. The two converse for a bit before she tells him that her master is hurt after falling down a ravine and leads him to him, only for Snitter to find the mostly skeletal corpse of a man with the bones of a dog at his side. The female dog then starts laughing maniacally, and Snitter runs away in fear. I don’t remember if he tells Rowf and Tod about his experience, but I remember that moment kind of messed with me in the book.
The book has a happier ending where the dogs make it to the island. In the movie, you notice the fog rolls in after the second shot. The dogs keep swimming through the clouds on their way to the rainbow road.
Yo Alteori think you could give 1982's The Last Unicorn a look? I enjoyed it when I was smol and it also tackles some heavy themes, I think you'd get a kick out of it.
I'd never heard of this movie, but now there are four animated movies (I know of) with animal testing as a major plot point. The others being: "Felidae," "Secret of NIHM," and "Fern Gully."
Fern Gully was about Rainforest Polution and deforestation. Batty the bat had been experimented on and was a mainish character but it was not the main plot point of the movie. More like an offshoot peice of his backstory.
I just read on the news that apparently some hunters dog accidentally pressed down on his shot guns trigger and shot the guy. The guy died. And instead of placing the responsibility on the gun owner, the dog was put down. So unfortunately that scene and the blame being placed on the dogs is apparently pretty realistic.
In the book, how Snitter ended up at the lab was after Snitter's owner was hit by a car, the owner's sister blamed Snitter for his brothers injuries and sells him to the animal laboratory.
The author made an epilogue where the dogs are rescued and adopted by Snitter’s owner (who recovered from the accident). But it was said that the author was forced to include it and you can tell he just wrote it to appease the publishers.
The problem with death sentence is the so called justice system is far from perfect, there have been cases of people that have been found innocent after they were executed.
That's why prisoners aren't used in experiments without their consent as well. Since you do have cases of people being innocent for a crime they never committed. Then there's other issues by this idea that people are suggesting. How do you regulate this to prevent prisons from including people who are in for more minor crimes in the experiments if consent isn't given? Or the justice system from dealing out punishments far harsher than the crime they're punishing them for? Or targeting minorities even more than they are now for this?
Um... correction? In most cases I've heard of, dogs are not, in fact, put to sleep for eating human remains. That is a myth. If they _kill_ them, that would be one thing, but eating a dead owner because the dog doesn't have food around has no precedent on whether the dog is adoptable. Wild animals, on the other hand...
The Puppies behind Bars is a good program for inmates who have shown good behavior behind bars. They train puppies since they are eight weeks old to fully fledged service dogs for veterans with ptsd. I personally cried watching these "hard" men turn into little boys when handling these puppies.
I can’t watch this movie. I live for and love my furbabies. I was crying just watch a few minutes into this video. Did you know universities still do horrible things to dogs and cats? Pittsburgh university still uses dogs in their experiments. The US military hospitals use cats in experiments. I love animals in general, but we really need a law that some animals are off limits. Dogs and cats have a bond with people. Dogs and humans release oxytocin around each other. When I see an animal being abused I go emotional crazy. I would die for my babies and I don’t care what anyone thinks about that.
Richard Adams severed in WW2. He saw no combat. Upon completing his "duty", he returned to Oxford to finish his degree. He asked his Professor if his friends had returned to their studies, only to hear his best friend & friends had all been killed in battle(s). 7+. He wrote in his memoirs about the devastation/gloom he felt and how it lead him to contemplation of life and it's meaning. The ocean is symbolic of the calm & chaos/giving & taking of life. It's the Womd of the world. He never "got over" the death of his friends, but made him understand the beauty of life, frailty, sacredness of hope, true friendship, honor, loyalty, and the search/exploration of meaning and belief.
My apologies Alteori, and thank you for putting out this video. I wasn't expecting it when you posted you wouldn't watch it again. For the people who haven't seen it yet it's free on TH-cam last I checked.
This was the first movie I saw Steve Reviews talk about. This movie was pretty saddening cuz these dogs try living outside the lab after managing to escape only for them to be hunted all because the people think they have the plague. And in the end, it never pays off as it ends on a cliff hanger implying that the dogs might not have made it, although it’s kept ambiguous as it lets us, the audience, to choose their fate
This looks absolutely horrific. I'd like to say movies like this just shouldn't exist, but it can serve a very important purpose of highlighting the horrors that goes on in these testing facilities. It's so sad and wrong. I have two ball pythons and raise both pet rats and rats for the purpose of feeding my snakes. I treat them all like pets, and raise them in the best possible circumstances, even if I have to periodically kill a couple rats to feed the snakes, I don't do so remorselessly. I don't enjoy killing rats to feed my snakes, but I wouldn't keep an animal if I wasn't willing to do what's necessary to properly care for my animals. I treat all life with due respect and appreciate the sacrifice, even if it's unwilling on the rodents part. But I'm a practicing Druid.
This is one of my all-time fav movies. I dig the film more than the book because the film focuses on the animals and not as much on the sadistic humans, most of whom *DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE.* I REALLY like the Geordie dialect in both the book and the film.
I remember this movie, I discovered it when I was at university though, this movie, its characters, its story and its ending especially stuck with me and made an impact for quite some time. Also, I didn't even know there was a Watership Down tv show. I found the whole show on TH-cam, I might check it out and listen to it while working today.
Alteori: Dogs see you as their parents, they want to please you, they're really depend on you Me: So this guy never listens to me, runs away from my home, barks and howls at night making me lose my mind I still love dogs, a lot, but it's hard to say all of them are so people-dependent and loyal. Some of them have their breed differences, making them also differ in personalities, and some of them aren't taught to behave properly. Mine dog is both, because none of us had any experience with having a dog and he's a German Shepherd and mongrel dog mix.
I watched this when I was still in my teens, I still have not been able to rewatch it since. If you like animal movies, have you ever considered watching Togo, with William Dafoe.
the saddest part? in the book, snitter's owner was alive but in hospital. he had his sister watch Snitter. But she HATED snitter and at the first chance, sold him to the laboratory.
That’s the edited version. The movie is loyal to the original book. Check Cardinal West’s channel. He has an impossibly good insight to the book and the meanings that could be drawn from it.
A big reason humans aren't experimented on isn't so much ethical, but that there are too many factors and it's hard to get a good control specimen. Mental illness, blood type, medical conditions, if they were a smoker, age, and so on. In all honesty, the lab really didn't know Snitter's history so they shouldn't have used him. Labs typically don't test on strays, that's why lab mice are bred specifically for testing and then euthanized afterwards.
For a less heavy (and way more fantasy based and weird) film on the evils of animal experimentation, I would recommend "Bagi, the Monster of Mighty Nature" by The Late Osamu Tezuka
Truly one of the saddest animations though I give it props for sticking to the dark tone of the story through out the whole thing. Yes monsters like Serial Killers and/predators should not be considered human after having no respect and empathy for innocent human life. They might as well be used for something useful instead of having any chance to escape or freedom and continue harming instead and getting waited on in hotels with bars. You have true respect for life why should that waste of a life thats taking lives be respected.
You finally saw it! I have the blu ray that contains both the cut and uncut. The uncut is better imo. The American cut kinda brought the music in too early but in the uncut the music came on right at a good time when they disappeared into the fog. Also I have that ending song in my music
And here in the US, you have test audiences walking out of theaters at even the _hint_ of a dog dying. One of the first things writers are taught is you _do not kill dogs._
@williammoore5081 Dogs and kids are generally off limits for this kind of violence in the minds of audiences. Now, if only cats had the same protection.
this movie showed me how thankful I am to have my dogs live with me. Because it could have been worse for them. I had two dogs who grew up with me named Max and Diamond. We got Max as a Christmas present back in 2002. And we got Diamond from some lady who couldn't have her anymore in 2007. Max was still a puppy; diamond was Max's age when we got her. But they still had okay lives before. Then we got Luke in 2011. Luke was a puppy at a flea market. I passed by him because we already had two dogs. But my mom who was shopping separately from me saw him talking and his seller yelling at him to stop. My mom immediately bought him and brought him home. Then the dog with the saddest backstory we had is Whiley. We got him for my grandma ten years ago. He lived in my brother's former girlfriend's house. Me, my mom, and my brother were all looking for a dog for grandma. The owner's house was nasty. Dog and baby human shit everywhere, two old dogs, and countless puppies. My mom was trying to decide which one she should get while a really old English bulldog was resting its head on my lap (Dogs love me) when this tiny puppy limped over to us. I said "limped". He had a broken front right leg that was poorly bandaged. My mom looked right at me and my brother and said "We are taking this one. No contest." We both completely agreed. Max, Daimond, and Luke have all passed with happy lives. Even though grandma passed on 12/20/12, grandpa kept Whiley. Whiley's now 10 and is still a happy boy with a bad leg. I give him kisses and cuddles every day. Also, my mental health makes it hard not to live in a house without an animal. So, I'm happy to still have him around.
Every experiment described in this novel actually happened. The book was SUPPOSED to be grim and hopeless, and to show the cruel way animals are treated in labs.
10:54 The book explains that the man was a holocaust survivor who took pity on Snitter as he spotted him, seeing the large scar on his head. He felt at that moment it was cruel to hunt mostly harmless creatures who were treated unfairly by man in the first place. The man forgets to turn the safety off the rifle because he is feeling conflicted and acts hastily (not intentionally) when putting the gun down and calling Snitter. Snitter's foot catching the trigger instead of knocking the gun over was ludicrous though, and the shot right to the center of the face feels so impossible. It's very 'worst-case-scenario'
I remember renting and watching this movie on an old vcr. Such along time ago, and it was a very depressing and sad movie. The ending left me empty, and I would never know if the dogs made to the island. I didn't even know there it was based on a book. Not being much of a reader of novels, lo and behold a few years ago I was at thrift shop, and came across the hard cover book. I couldn't believe it, I bought right on the spot, took it home and read it. There some parts in the book that didn't take place in the movie, but that was okay with me. But reading through the whole book; the dogs did get their happy ending. I still have the book, and being an older guy, one day I will have to part with it.
8:11 ok but how did Todd from Fox and The Hound get from America to Britian? did he lose his American accent and gain a British one? comparing the accents they're from different countries edit I don't know where Fox and The Hound takes place my headcanon is Virginia during the great depression in the late 20s to early 30s
25:17 that sounds like a good idea but it’s a slippery slope because anybody who ends up in jail could be considered a candidate. Even if they’re innocent. People who are in jail already work against their will and it’s much worse than you think it’s not just Bubba making license plates or handing out cafeteria food.
I have a weird respect for the people who actually had the guts to make this movie. Like, it gets the point across but its also dark and brutal and it doesn't tone down anything. How scared would you be if killer dogs that were carrying the plague were wandering the wilderness where you lived, and how terrified would you be if you were one of the dogs, who never did anything wrong?
One of the points I took away from the film is they were both good guys caught up in a confusing situation and forced to do bad things to survive. It doesn't take much sometimes to find yourself outside the system and nowhere to go.
This movie really wants create conscience, which I really love it for that and made it my favorite outside the Disney canon. If someone watch this without understanding it's message, well... This world really need to change for the greater good.
This and Watership Down were fucking dark for kids movies in the 70s. Never knew how much we tortured/still possibly do torture animals in labs for fucking makeup and diseases. This movie ended up causing tears when I saw it few years ago.
This movie follows something very important that horror movies seem to have forgotten, you do NOT show to the monster, it builds tension and if you do is only for a little.
I remember watching this movie once here on TH-cam, and don't remember everything but I still remember the characters and that one scene with the man being shot with the gun. I don't think I can ever watch this movie again, it's so depressing 😂😭😭😭😭
I feel the same way in regards to using the lowest of the low criminals for these kind of experiments. I think it would be a very fitting sentence for a lot of those people. But I also hate that so many experiments need to test on things with a life.
I watched this movie a lot as a child...Im not sure why but I loved it xD but as soon as I saw you watched it I was incredibly confused considering how nervous you get in other videos when animals lives are on the line.
I never watched Watership Down and Plague Dogs as a kid I only saw them later like based off reviews and entrees of disturbing animated films list. Plague Dogs I finally watched and that was a trial.
Wanna see another feel-good animated movie, Alteori? Watch Padak: Swimming out to Sea... It's like Finding Nemo's mean-spirited soul-crushing mentally traumatizing South Korean cousin. I recommend watching it after having a delicious sushi dinner.. but I'm a right bastard with a horribly twisted sense of humor... It's a blessing and a curse.
This movie is good for showing people how cruel and inhumane testing on animals can be. I’m not someone who’s preaching to be vegan or whatever I just don’t like the thought of inflicting pain on poor defenseless animals.
That's true. You don't have to vegan to be against cruel animal experimentation. Sadly, there's too much of a black & white perspective on the issue from many ethical vegans who view using animals for food and byproducts as completely evil no matter how necessary it is or humanely it is done. Us people are definitely as interesting as we are odd.
Tod, the fox, otherwise aloof and self-interested, sacrificed himself for the benefit of Snitter & Ralph. HERO! As Snitter & Ralph swim for "santuary," Snitter s hallucinated island, Snitter realizes it was another delusion on his part (self actualization), but Ralph went with him anyway. Exhausted, they will surely drown. But Ralph tells Snitter he can "see" the island. HEROES. Watch the movie, Ralphs last line is absolutely heartbreakingly brave & beautiful! To have a friend like that!
Yeah holy crap, I saw Steve Reviews, review on this movie a while back, and before watching this i watched the movie, and not only did that scene of the man getting shot happen a lot faster than i thought it did, but the music was also creepy af
The first time I watched this movie a couple of years ago (2018 or so) I finished it, went on youtube to distract myself from the sad, and after 15 minutes or so I turned off my phone and straight up ungly cried. This movie should honestly be required watching but in the same way grave of the fireflies is required watching.
Another great review as always! This is certainly one of the hardest films for me to watch. I used to watch it a few times as a teen with no issues, but these days, I’d rather not touch it. It’s just too dark, too harrowing. Watership Down is the one I prefer, as the elements balance well between being hopeful yet harrowing when such moments are appropriate. Plague Dogs is just tormenting…I do appreciate it a lot, of course. But it is certainly a very heartbreaking tale.
The drowning experiments were a real thing. They were done to test if dogs felt "hope." The scientists would record the time it took for the dogs to nearly drown, but they'd always pull them out and resuscitate them before they died. The dogs would last longer and longer as each experiment passed, because they knew the humans would eventually pull them out again. That is why when the movie ends, the dogs see their island and keep on swimming. It's a symbol of their hope. Whether it's real or not, no one really knows.
Look up the condition of LEARNED HELPLESSNESS, where dogs were placed in a chamber where the floor was electrified and there's no place to escape. They tried to find a way out, but eventually learn that they cannot escape and sadly accept their plight and just lay there and accept the pain.
Ironically, that lead to the understanding of why battered wives learn to accept their sad condition and remain quiet under their brutal husbands.
Yeah, if I remember right the ending was purposefully left ambiguous so as to not make it completely morbid.
ITs been a long time but i think in the book there was no island, i think they added it to the movie so it gives all of us that moment of piece that they will make it.
The island is real.
@@ConsoleCleric I hope so too tbh
What's most terrifying is that people actually performed experiments like this. And, in some places, still do.
Well if it weren't for dogs experimentation we wouldn't understand how diabetes works, and that a pancreatic extract would made it better, yup insulin was discovered by giving dogs huge amount of sugar, damaging their pancreas and so on ...
The scientific field is polishing theyr research methods, nowday we have ethics and precise protocol for animal experiments.
Reduce number
Substitue (i don't remember which R is given to this in English but this is the general meaning)
Research alternatives.
It is tedious and long to do but hell we don't use animals to test cosmetics or effects of foods or smoke or ecc... Yup Europe has strong laws it is not perfect but definitely better than the 60s.
the drowning part is a real thing. The "rat hope experiment"
@Yuki la serpe True. Cruel experimentation is a beneficial evil. The only reason we know that the body is mostly water is because the Japanese in WW2 cooked prisoners of war alive until all of the water was evaporated. Nobody wants to know how the sausage is made.
Fauci was recently in trouble for torturing beagles by letting their heads get eaten by sand fleas while they were trapped in a box. So yes, they still do "experiments" like this.
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6:11 It's truly noble for someone to care about their dog that much to save them.
It's supposed to be upsetting. The author of the book was actually an animal activist and they did change some laws pertaining to animal testing in the UK after this. The author also really liked the movie version because it used his original intended ending that the editors made him change.
I didn't know that he was an activist. Then again, it DOES make sense
Makes sense
True, the editor’s ending is goofy as hell. But even so, can you really blame them for the change? Lol
@@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 fun fact the author also made Watership Down. You know the book/movie about Rabbits killing each other with weird religion, psychic visions, and fascist rabbits
Also fun fact after this he made erotica. Not sure how he went from plague dogs to porn, but many it was so bleak it needed a 180
This movie was my first step into the cruelty humans have against animals, unfortunately was not the last. In a Chinese video I watched a dog skinned alive and was forced to walk in the street afterwards. That's when I realized there are absolutely horrible people on earth and it makes my blood maybe not boil but the oxy adrenaline makes me want to force end those people via whatever means I can. Dogs are our best friends how can people even think about this type of treatment.
I remember seeing videos from China where people boiled living octopuses and crabs in water, and heard a cat was skinned alive. The dog meat festival is still a real thing in China. I also saw a video where a man beat his racing greyhound to death after it lost a race. China has some serious lack of animal welfare and while there are plenty of people over there that support animal welfare, others still believe animals don't have feelings and animals are tortured to get blood into their meat to improve the taste...
Its disgusting.
Sadly a lot of Asian places actually hunt stray dogs to eat them, I think it’s north or South Korea, it’s really messed up, but in the western world we have so many variations in cultures, we really wouldn’t know if someone was willing to do that here.
Screw that I couldn't watch a video like that I'd rather watch a human get skinned
Shovel dog destroyed, absolutely destroyed my hope for humanity.
My mom told me that those countries eat dogs because they're starving. I said that's not an excuse, and it isn't it just isn't right for people to eat man's best friend and yet here we are
I saw this when I was much too young. I didnt cry but it really spearheaded my sense of mortality in this world
My sense of mortality was spearheaded by Liveleak and cartel execution videos. 😂 wish I could hug my past self
@@jediracoon5453 same, but mine was more on the weird sexual stuff like 1guy1screwdriver and goatse. Though I did also see 3guys1hammer. Needless to say nothing really effects me on the internet anymore.
@@cameronbartlett856 shit messed us up ong.
@cameronbartlett856 Mine was e621. When a person asked for a video of a guy getting eaten alive by a snake just so he could satisfy his vore fetish, that's when I just stopped being as nice to people as I should have. Then one guy made a r**e fantasy video, which triggered trauma in sa victims, and he brushed it off as "good voice acting" and "not being able to tell the difference between fiction and reality." Long story short, people can be pieces of shit, and you don't owe them kindness.
I saw the ending to this film, and I'm not sure if this is an extended version or not, but there was an island at the end of the credits but It was foggy and in the distance. I found that very Haunting because you can't tell if the dogs really did make it and lives happily ever after or if it was an illusion or that the dogs died and the island was symbolic for them seeing "paradise" or heaven and the mystery and uncertainty just kills me
It's based on a book by the same author who wrote Watership Down, Richard Adams. He used real locations for his stories. It turns out, there is an island off the coast of Drigg Beach (where the dogs swam away from the soldiers). It's called the Isle of Man. So yeah, I believe the dogs made it.
Hate to break it to you but, the Isle of Man is a very long swing. Rowf may have made it, but Snitter most likely wouldn’t have.
It's arguably worse what the worst of humanity does to dogs because it's possible that without dog/wolves/canids, humans may not have survived up to the point that we are now. They've protected us, taught us to hunt better, etc. We owe them a debt we can never repay and the worst of our species literally abuse and torture them and see no problem with it at all.
Oh god this movie. It's quite fascinating to see a movie like this, in a age where cartoons, especially about dogs or animals were considered kid friendly, this movie came as a massive wake up call for society that even cartoons with cute animals can be for adults. And I love it, despite the horrific moments. Snitter is my favorite character in the movie. His shocking story of his tragic backstory of having his owner trying to save his dog, only to die, and having snitter feeling guilty as result.
he didnt die really though
Fun fact: The book actually has a happier ending, in the book, Snitter's owner actually lived and adopted both dogs at the end of the book. (So I heard)
yet the movie decided, no that's too happy let's have them drown to death in the ocean, together.
That's because the movie is based on the original print.
In the original ending, they died, since the island wasn't real, just Snitter seeing things, and Ralf just went along with it for mercy's sake. This got the author so much hate mail, that he decided to make a happy ending just so people would stop it.
EDIT: corrected the part where I said "the movie was based on the re-print", that was a mistake
@@banheezone agree, I'm just sharing the story
@@SilentHillOwn Actually it was the protest by the authors daughters that made him change the ending.
@@rakdos36 damn, harsh, imagine your own family making you change your book for it being too deppressive.
@@rakdos36 oh, it was his daughter? Nice, I read somewhere that it was a bunch of hate mail.
Guess his daughter and Akira Toriyama's daughter are cut from the same cloth
Anyone who says there is no reason to kill a person just hasn't met the right person yet!
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I grew up on this movie. Seen it a thousand times, and it STILL makes me cry.
As soon as I saw in your posts you said you watched this immediately I was reminded of that scene where they shot that man by accident and the end...omg... I started to cry in public because I remembered that when I came across this movie years ago
What movie was that?
@@jediracoon5453 the movie this video was about
@@Tallacus damn gotta watch this for the feels
In the book, the dogs are rescued by a passing boat. In the movie, the island is shown at the end of the credits, confirming that the island was real.
Actually the movie's ending is left to your interpretation I think the dogs actually died and the island is their figment of imagination of heaven also to confirm this theory if you listen to the song's lyrics at the credits it makes it more accurate
Rescued by a RL conservationist Sir Peter Scott no less.
So did the dogs make it
That's actually the revision, in the original ending, the island was an just and ilusión from the little dog, and the big dog goes along because he thought it be more merciful to let him hang onto that hope, knowing they were done for, but at least they could die in their own terms.
The author got so much hate letters, that he did an extended ending where they are saved in the reprints
@@SilentHillOwn My bad. I only ever read the revision.
I can't man, my dog is my best friend and getting anywhere near this movie tears my heart out. I can't imagine being mean to my good boy much less what happens in this movie. I've watched one video about it and bounced out. I love my dog, he came to me when I needed him and I would not even think twice about saving him even if it meant me getting hurt. Kills my soul that these things, or at least some of these experiments, actually happened. Good boys and good girls deserve the world.
16:49 "In my head canon, he is the same Todd from the Disney universe" - Actually, no. I know the Disney movie, and it's pretty dark for a Disney movie, but "The Fox and the Hound" is a novel, a *haunting, dark novel* that matches the tone of "Plague Dogs" perfectly. So, with Todd, the authors of "Plague Dogs" obviously refer to the novel "The Fox and the Hound".
No, not necessarily. “Todd” is actually an old term for a male fox, like “vixen” is for a female. There is likely literally no correlation to the two books at all.
As someone once said: “Not everybody deserves a happy ending.”
And those who do, don’t always get it
@Joshua 1992 where turkeys will GO BACK IN TIME TO THE FIRST THANKSGIVING TO GET TURKEYS OFF THE MENU!
While I agree that using criminals for these experiments is a viable alternative, there are a lot of factors that have to come into play. One big one is a glaring issue with our justice system. There's a good chance an innocent person who was wrongly convicted could end up in these experiments.
Yeah. And what if prisons decide to also include people who have done minor crimes in the experiments? Or target minorities? Things like that. So even if criminals are used in experiments even if they committed some pretty horrible crimes, they would still have to be asked for consent for that very reason.
I'm all for reducing the amount of animal experiments needed, but using prisoners without their consent isn't a good alternative because of those factors involved.
Its such a sad movie but what makes it sadder is the fact that this stuff happend in real life.
I don't feel, no pain no more, I don't feel, no pain no more..... I've left this cruel world behind and I found my peace of mind, I don't feel, no pain no more.....
That song 😢
@@jaketheimmortal3659 Worst thing about it: its the most upbeat part of the movie.
I agree with Alteori 100% if someone is found without a doubt guilty of horrendous crimes they should be used for experiments not innocent animals it's a *much* better solution in many ways only positives like less innocent animals are harmed, less horrible people costing money or getting more opportunities to do more harm which would let victims & their families feel more at peace & feel more justice & it would be a much bigger deterrent for potential criminals.
Not to mention the justice system can be pretty corrupt and there is always the chance the criminal might not get a good enough sentence or even get out on bail. Though, it does make me wonder if human experimentation on criminals was ever regulated or considered at some point in human history.
As fcked up as it sounds, I honestly agree. The most destructive Criminals in society should be lab-rats instead of animals, the less destructive ppl that harm innocence everyday the better imo
Sadly it’s too inhumane for most governments, but I really do agree, the potential to actually have scientific breakthroughs, instead of torturing animals that really don’t deserve it, im definitely disappointed in the human race at times.
@void-master9077 well we kinda made the law of cruel amd unusual punishment, mostly to keep us from going down a slippery slope as far as for a society goes, it's more for us than for them
"The Plague Dogs"...one of my favorite rebuttals to those people who unironically think cartoons are "just for kids" (lookin' at you, Chapek! 😡). Sit your kids down to watch this movie and let me know how that goes. 😄
God I saw a kid when I saw this movie. It was so sad and has stuck with me since I first watched it. But knowing my weird obsession with the grotesque and morbid, I watched it multiple times. Idk if anyone else is like this.
I kid you not, Alteori, when watching that scene where the man got shot in the face, unintentionally thanks to Snitter, I was like "What the actual... ?! O_O" as it was so sudden and CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. What makes all the more gutwrenching is how Snitter and Rowf could've lived a happy and peaceful life, were it not for the positioning of the gun, which granted is partly the poor man's fault for placing it there, but my God... XD
Look up the drowned rat experiments. They are what they based Rowf's experiment on in the beginning of the movie. 1st time they throw a rat into water it swims until it became too tired to continue, it would sink and drown in a relatively short time, but if the scientist saves them before they pass out, the next time they throw the rat into the water, it will swim for an exponentially longer period of time, like unnaturally long. Some would die of exhaustion before they would actually drown. Hope is a real force that clearly, even actual animals can experience and it can supercede even adrenaline and fear.
Tis not the darkness I fear, but the teeth that come before it. - Tod (from the book)
I’m not sure if it was ever shown in the film (probably not), but there’s actually a scene in the book that shows that Snitter’s hallucinations may be more than just mere hallucinations. During their time with Tod, there’s actually a scene in the book where Snitter is wandering around on his own among the moors and comes upon a female dog. The two converse for a bit before she tells him that her master is hurt after falling down a ravine and leads him to him, only for Snitter to find the mostly skeletal corpse of a man with the bones of a dog at his side. The female dog then starts laughing maniacally, and Snitter runs away in fear. I don’t remember if he tells Rowf and Tod about his experience, but I remember that moment kind of messed with me in the book.
The book has a happier ending where the dogs make it to the island.
In the movie, you notice the fog rolls in after the second shot. The dogs keep swimming through the clouds on their way to the rainbow road.
Yo Alteori think you could give 1982's The Last Unicorn a look? I enjoyed it when I was smol and it also tackles some heavy themes, I think you'd get a kick out of it.
I remember that movie I watched it as smol child it was.... satisfactory
I'd never heard of this movie, but now there are four animated movies (I know of) with animal testing as a major plot point. The others being: "Felidae," "Secret of NIHM," and "Fern Gully."
Fern Gully was about Rainforest Polution and deforestation.
Batty the bat had been experimented on and was a mainish character but it was not the main plot point of the movie. More like an offshoot peice of his backstory.
I just read on the news that apparently some hunters dog accidentally pressed down on his shot guns trigger and shot the guy. The guy died. And instead of placing the responsibility on the gun owner, the dog was put down. So unfortunately that scene and the blame being placed on the dogs is apparently pretty realistic.
If you think this is dark you should watch Felidae or when the wind blows
Omg yes, that's a great movie, but Alteori needs to be aware of that one scene with the dead cat mum and her kits
@@Tallacus nah let that be a surprise
In the book, how Snitter ended up at the lab was after Snitter's owner was hit by a car, the owner's sister blamed Snitter for his brothers injuries and sells him to the animal laboratory.
Grave of the Fireflies was another movie that left me with a similar feeling.
I can't imagine my dog being in this situation then again it would make no sense
The author made an epilogue where the dogs are rescued and adopted by Snitter’s owner (who recovered from the accident). But it was said that the author was forced to include it and you can tell he just wrote it to appease the publishers.
This movie is a repressed memory of mine
The problem with death sentence is the so called justice system is far from perfect, there have been cases of people that have been found innocent after they were executed.
That's why prisoners aren't used in experiments without their consent as well. Since you do have cases of people being innocent for a crime they never committed.
Then there's other issues by this idea that people are suggesting. How do you regulate this to prevent prisons from including people who are in for more minor crimes in the experiments if consent isn't given? Or the justice system from dealing out punishments far harsher than the crime they're punishing them for? Or targeting minorities even more than they are now for this?
Certified hood classic right here, same with Watership Down.
Um... correction? In most cases I've heard of, dogs are not, in fact, put to sleep for eating human remains. That is a myth. If they _kill_ them, that would be one thing, but eating a dead owner because the dog doesn't have food around has no precedent on whether the dog is adoptable.
Wild animals, on the other hand...
The Puppies behind Bars is a good program for inmates who have shown good behavior behind bars. They train puppies since they are eight weeks old to fully fledged service dogs for veterans with ptsd. I personally cried watching these "hard" men turn into little boys when handling these puppies.
"this shouldn't happen to a dog"
I can’t watch this movie. I live for and love my furbabies. I was crying just watch a few minutes into this video. Did you know universities still do horrible things to dogs and cats? Pittsburgh university still uses dogs in their experiments. The US military hospitals use cats in experiments. I love animals in general, but we really need a law that some animals are off limits. Dogs and cats have a bond with people. Dogs and humans release oxytocin around each other.
When I see an animal being abused I go emotional crazy. I would die for my babies and I don’t care what anyone thinks about that.
3:00, she has to be right because I can't imagine a person with a soul and an ounce of empathy could participate in such experiments.
Richard Adams severed in WW2. He saw no combat. Upon completing his "duty", he returned to Oxford to finish his degree. He asked his Professor if his friends had returned to their studies, only to hear his best friend & friends had all been killed in battle(s). 7+. He wrote in his memoirs about the devastation/gloom he felt and how it lead him to contemplation of life and it's meaning. The ocean is symbolic of the calm & chaos/giving & taking of life. It's the Womd of the world. He never "got over" the death of his friends, but made him understand the beauty of life, frailty, sacredness of hope, true friendship, honor, loyalty, and the search/exploration of meaning and belief.
I actually think Rowf heard Tod's final screams, and he only said that to make Snitter feel better.
My apologies Alteori, and thank you for putting out this video. I wasn't expecting it when you posted you wouldn't watch it again.
For the people who haven't seen it yet it's free on TH-cam last I checked.
As sad as the ending may be, Snitter and Rolf won in the end. Through their actions the lab got shut down and they aren’t in pain anymore.
Most people know watership down, but upon seeing this, check into a psyche ward. DOG SHOT MAN'S FACE OFF, still love this film though.
Have you heard of Vladimir Demikhov? He performed Frankenstein-esque, Human Centipede-esque experiments on dogs irl.
Ugh, I saw a couple of those experiments. If hell exists, there is a special place for him and others like him there.
@@mistingwolf One would argue that his experiments paved the way for modern surgery, saving many lives. But at what cost? :(
This was the first movie I saw Steve Reviews talk about. This movie was pretty saddening cuz these dogs try living outside the lab after managing to escape only for them to be hunted all because the people think they have the plague. And in the end, it never pays off as it ends on a cliff hanger implying that the dogs might not have made it, although it’s kept ambiguous as it lets us, the audience, to choose their fate
This looks absolutely horrific. I'd like to say movies like this just shouldn't exist, but it can serve a very important purpose of highlighting the horrors that goes on in these testing facilities. It's so sad and wrong. I have two ball pythons and raise both pet rats and rats for the purpose of feeding my snakes. I treat them all like pets, and raise them in the best possible circumstances, even if I have to periodically kill a couple rats to feed the snakes, I don't do so remorselessly. I don't enjoy killing rats to feed my snakes, but I wouldn't keep an animal if I wasn't willing to do what's necessary to properly care for my animals. I treat all life with due respect and appreciate the sacrifice, even if it's unwilling on the rodents part. But I'm a practicing Druid.
17:22 Meat is meat 🍖
A dog's gotta eat
I could have gone the rest of my life without knowing about this movie...😪😭
This is one of my all-time fav movies. I dig the film more than the book because the film focuses on the animals and not as much on the sadistic humans, most of whom *DON'T DESERVE TO LIVE.*
I REALLY like the Geordie dialect in both the book and the film.
I remember this movie, I discovered it when I was at university though, this movie, its characters, its story and its ending especially stuck with me and made an impact for quite some time.
Also, I didn't even know there was a Watership Down tv show. I found the whole show on TH-cam, I might check it out and listen to it while working today.
Alteori: Dogs see you as their parents, they want to please you, they're really depend on you
Me: So this guy never listens to me, runs away from my home, barks and howls at night making me lose my mind
I still love dogs, a lot, but it's hard to say all of them are so people-dependent and loyal. Some of them have their breed differences, making them also differ in personalities, and some of them aren't taught to behave properly. Mine dog is both, because none of us had any experience with having a dog and he's a German Shepherd and mongrel dog mix.
I watched this when I was still in my teens, I still have not been able to rewatch it since. If you like animal movies, have you ever considered watching Togo, with William Dafoe.
the saddest part? in the book, snitter's owner was alive but in hospital. he had his sister watch Snitter. But she HATED snitter and at the first chance, sold him to the laboratory.
That’s the edited version. The movie is loyal to the original book. Check Cardinal West’s channel. He has an impossibly good insight to the book and the meanings that could be drawn from it.
A big reason humans aren't experimented on isn't so much ethical, but that there are too many factors and it's hard to get a good control specimen. Mental illness, blood type, medical conditions, if they were a smoker, age, and so on. In all honesty, the lab really didn't know Snitter's history so they shouldn't have used him. Labs typically don't test on strays, that's why lab mice are bred specifically for testing and then euthanized afterwards.
The scene with dog stepping on the gun and shooting the guy reminded me of how like the other that exact same thing happened in real
For a less heavy (and way more fantasy based and weird) film on the evils of animal experimentation, I would recommend "Bagi, the Monster of Mighty Nature" by The Late Osamu Tezuka
Truly one of the saddest animations though I give it props for sticking to the dark tone of the story through out the whole thing.
Yes monsters like Serial Killers and/predators should not be considered human after having no respect and empathy for innocent human life. They might as well be used for something useful instead of having any chance to escape or freedom and continue harming instead and getting waited on in hotels with bars. You have true respect for life why should that waste of a life thats taking lives be respected.
You finally saw it! I have the blu ray that contains both the cut and uncut. The uncut is better imo. The American cut kinda brought the music in too early but in the uncut the music came on right at a good time when they disappeared into the fog. Also I have that ending song in my music
And here in the US, you have test audiences walking out of theaters at even the _hint_ of a dog dying. One of the first things writers are taught is you _do not kill dogs._
Or if you do kill a dog, there needs to be dire consequences.
@williammoore5081 Dogs and kids are generally off limits for this kind of violence in the minds of audiences. Now, if only cats had the same protection.
And this is just the beginning. It doesn't even scratch the surface of what else you can see "safely" online.
this movie showed me how thankful I am to have my dogs live with me. Because it could have been worse for them. I had two dogs who grew up with me named Max and Diamond. We got Max as a Christmas present back in 2002. And we got Diamond from some lady who couldn't have her anymore in 2007. Max was still a puppy; diamond was Max's age when we got her. But they still had okay lives before. Then we got Luke in 2011. Luke was a puppy at a flea market. I passed by him because we already had two dogs. But my mom who was shopping separately from me saw him talking and his seller yelling at him to stop. My mom immediately bought him and brought him home. Then the dog with the saddest backstory we had is Whiley. We got him for my grandma ten years ago. He lived in my brother's former girlfriend's house. Me, my mom, and my brother were all looking for a dog for grandma. The owner's house was nasty. Dog and baby human shit everywhere, two old dogs, and countless puppies. My mom was trying to decide which one she should get while a really old English bulldog was resting its head on my lap (Dogs love me) when this tiny puppy limped over to us. I said "limped". He had a broken front right leg that was poorly bandaged. My mom looked right at me and my brother and said "We are taking this one. No contest." We both completely agreed. Max, Daimond, and Luke have all passed with happy lives. Even though grandma passed on 12/20/12, grandpa kept Whiley. Whiley's now 10 and is still a happy boy with a bad leg. I give him kisses and cuddles every day. Also, my mental health makes it hard not to live in a house without an animal. So, I'm happy to still have him around.
I bought book and the DVD years ago because I loved watership down so much. I really didn't know what I was getting into
Every experiment described in this novel actually happened. The book was SUPPOSED to be grim and hopeless, and to show the cruel way animals are treated in labs.
10:54 The book explains that the man was a holocaust survivor who took pity on Snitter as he spotted him, seeing the large scar on his head. He felt at that moment it was cruel to hunt mostly harmless creatures who were treated unfairly by man in the first place. The man forgets to turn the safety off the rifle because he is feeling conflicted and acts hastily (not intentionally) when putting the gun down and calling Snitter. Snitter's foot catching the trigger instead of knocking the gun over was ludicrous though, and the shot right to the center of the face feels so impossible. It's very 'worst-case-scenario'
The fox is my favorite. I just love Irish characters
I remember renting and watching this movie on an old vcr. Such along time ago, and it was a very depressing and sad movie. The ending left me empty, and I would never know if the dogs made to the island. I didn't even know there it was based on a book. Not being much of a reader of novels, lo and behold a few years ago I was at thrift shop, and came across the hard cover book. I couldn't believe it, I bought right on the spot, took it home and read it. There some parts in the book that didn't take place in the movie, but that was okay with me. But reading through the whole book; the dogs did get their happy ending. I still have the book, and being an older guy, one day I will have to part with it.
8:11 ok but how did Todd from Fox and The Hound get from America to Britian? did he lose his American accent and gain a British one? comparing the accents they're from different countries
edit I don't know where Fox and The Hound takes place my headcanon is Virginia during the great depression in the late 20s to early 30s
25:17 that sounds like a good idea but it’s a slippery slope because anybody who ends up in jail could be considered a candidate. Even if they’re innocent.
People who are in jail already work against their will and it’s much worse than you think it’s not just Bubba making license plates or handing out cafeteria food.
I have a weird respect for the people who actually had the guts to make this movie. Like, it gets the point across but its also dark and brutal and it doesn't tone down anything. How scared would you be if killer dogs that were carrying the plague were wandering the wilderness where you lived, and how terrified would you be if you were one of the dogs, who never did anything wrong?
this movie was dark and definitely hope that they don't reboot this movie.
One of the points I took away from the film is they were both good guys caught up in a confusing situation and forced to do bad things to survive.
It doesn't take much sometimes to find yourself outside the system and nowhere to go.
This movie really wants create conscience, which I really love it for that and made it my favorite outside the Disney canon.
If someone watch this without understanding it's message, well... This world really need to change for the greater good.
I strongly agree on using criminals for theses experience on. So yes, that's what we should do
If you really want a sad movie to watch, watch felidae... I’ve seen it and many reviews on it and it’s so sad and bone chilling and just creepy
This and Watership Down were fucking dark for kids movies in the 70s. Never knew how much we tortured/still possibly do torture animals in labs for fucking makeup and diseases. This movie ended up causing tears when I saw it few years ago.
This movie follows something very important that horror movies seem to have forgotten, you do NOT show to the monster, it builds tension and if you do is only for a little.
I remember watching this movie once here on TH-cam, and don't remember everything but I still remember the characters and that one scene with the man being shot with the gun. I don't think I can ever watch this movie again, it's so depressing 😂😭😭😭😭
Wow its like the hope experiment extended cut.
I feel the same way in regards to using the lowest of the low criminals for these kind of experiments. I think it would be a very fitting sentence for a lot of those people.
But I also hate that so many experiments need to test on things with a life.
I watched this movie a lot as a child...Im not sure why but I loved it xD but as soon as I saw you watched it I was incredibly confused considering how nervous you get in other videos when animals lives are on the line.
Ever see Ringing Bell? It’s nowhere near as heavy as this but very much uses cute animals to explore some dark themes. Speaks to me. Might to you.
I never watched Watership Down and Plague Dogs as a kid I only saw them later like based off reviews and entrees of disturbing animated films list.
Plague Dogs I finally watched and that was a trial.
Wanna see another feel-good animated movie, Alteori? Watch Padak: Swimming out to Sea... It's like Finding Nemo's mean-spirited soul-crushing mentally traumatizing South Korean cousin. I recommend watching it after having a delicious sushi dinner.. but I'm a right bastard with a horribly twisted sense of humor... It's a blessing and a curse.
This movie is good for showing people how cruel and inhumane testing on animals can be. I’m not someone who’s preaching to be vegan or whatever I just don’t like the thought of inflicting pain on poor defenseless animals.
That's true. You don't have to vegan to be against cruel animal experimentation. Sadly, there's too much of a black & white perspective on the issue from many ethical vegans who view using animals for food and byproducts as completely evil no matter how necessary it is or humanely it is done. Us people are definitely as interesting as we are odd.
Tod, the fox, otherwise aloof and self-interested, sacrificed himself for the benefit of Snitter & Ralph. HERO! As Snitter & Ralph swim for "santuary," Snitter s hallucinated island, Snitter realizes it was another delusion on his part (self actualization), but Ralph went with him anyway. Exhausted, they will surely drown. But Ralph tells Snitter he can "see" the island. HEROES. Watch the movie, Ralphs last line is absolutely heartbreakingly brave & beautiful! To have a friend like that!
Yeah holy crap, I saw Steve Reviews, review on this movie a while back, and before watching this i watched the movie, and not only did that scene of the man getting shot happen a lot faster than i thought it did, but the music was also creepy af
I love the Dieter Stark reference!!! LOL
The first time I watched this movie a couple of years ago (2018 or so) I finished it, went on youtube to distract myself from the sad, and after 15 minutes or so I turned off my phone and straight up ungly cried.
This movie should honestly be required watching but in the same way grave of the fireflies is required watching.
you should look up the animated short " love the dogs" that's one pretty depressing movie as well. Makes me cry every time
the rabbits are in a rabbit crush. its to hold their head still so that makeup can be tested on their faces/eyes
That's fucking dreadful
A good video analysis about Richard Adams books over the themes of death in his stories was made by Cardinal West. 😺
Oh boy I better brace myself for this video.
Aw poor terrier boy.
Another great review as always!
This is certainly one of the hardest films for me to watch. I used to watch it a few times as a teen with no issues, but these days, I’d rather not touch it. It’s just too dark, too harrowing. Watership Down is the one I prefer, as the elements balance well between being hopeful yet harrowing when such moments are appropriate. Plague Dogs is just tormenting…I do appreciate it a lot, of course. But it is certainly a very heartbreaking tale.
Your rant at the end is so good. Preach it!