Will Bowles be able to retain any of Coen’s staff? Chances are he’ll do exactly what Canales did and get all or most to follow. Will there be anybody left who knows the system well enough plus has the capability to make changes as needed left?
Definitely. But having the ability to keep Coaches who succeed is getting to be a problem. This isn't just Coen. Our Front office is bleeding out. Our Capologist is gone. Two Defensive coaches. (The best ones) How can we have any consistency on offense if we have 4 different Offensive Coordinators in 4 years?
One thing we can be assured is the Todd Bowles is 2 for 2 with his OC selection. Also, both previous OCs had a talent to work with on O, so any OC can come in and excel. However we need to get an OC that can take the next step , leadership qualities, ...
Wow here we go again it's not easy to keep learning new systems but life goes on . Hang in there offense main thing stay healthy and get stronger 💪 Go bucs
@JohnDoe-xp6oh do you think if our receivers don't get hurt every season or cornerbacks we would have had a better season every season we get hit hard in those areas ?
We should swing big with this next pick my vote would be Lincoln Riley who has past connections with baker at Oklahoma if not him I would be looking to pluck one of the offensive assistants from teams like the rams, Minnesota, Buffalo, or Cincinnati
@JohnDoe-xp6ohyes but it’s also on the bucs and bill parcel for pulling a coen and leaving the bucs with no choice. But they dug that grave firing dungy
Just so you guys know- tbey offered Liam the Snake Cohen a substantial Amout that would have made him the highest paid OC- they just didnt make the offer until after the second interview by then it eas too late..Bucs should have offered the new contract before the season ended thst would have prevented the second interview from happening
Come on Bucs fans it is a step up to become head coach in the nfl no way he was turning that down, Bowles has to blitz alot cause we don't have a secondary some of the defensive issues is drafting (GM picks)
The thing is he DID turn it down he had a contract set up to return to the Bucs but the day of signing he snuck off to Jacksonville not informing the Bucs and signed a HC contract with the Jags
@JohnDoe-xp6oh Then you turn down the contract or negotiate? There are tons of other ways to handle the situation instead of dodging calls and acting like you're not in Jacksonville when you are. On top of holding off so that the Jags could fulfill the Rooney Rule by interviewing Graham. Just complete disrespect to the Bucs organization
I prefer that they promote someone from the guys that we have on offense and continue the same system. And I hope that Bowles make it to the NFC Championship cause if not and he finishedagain with 9-8 or 10-7 and done on the wildcard, he will need to go, I'm tired of this OC change every year, and I believe that our franchise QB will appreciate that.
By the way, I challenge you to a competition of who knows more about current Bucs happenings and historical as well. Im talking 1976 buddy…and Im not an old guy, right around your age. I just take details more seriously than you. You thought before you started this “ hey ill do a half butt show on TH-cam and people will watch.” I don’t have to study or prepare for a show. Ill just free style it and hope for the best!! Welp that clearly shows in your lack of details in Bucs history on a “Bucs Show”
@@nightstreak724830ytPdR Do you remember where you were when Spurlock ran back the first kickoff return for a TD in Bucs history? I was in a bar in Orlando shooting pool. I let out a scream and only a couple of people knew what had happened. I still get goosebumps.
Baker Mayfield has heart and courage. He definitely makes the OCs look better. With our new players like Bucky and J Mac we will have a really good offense. Evans and Godwin will be back. We need good draft picks or free agents on defense and I will have high expectations.
Honestly, I think our offense will be just fine either way. Our passing game was good before Coen, and Bucky completely transformed our running game. I think we've got one of the most attractive offenses for an OC in the league. We'll be okay
Um it was 28 and a little over 4000 yards what are you talking about and we still went further under conales so maybe he was a little more sound then Liam tbh
@JohnDoe-xp6oh you said 4000 not 4500 and 28 pretty much rounds out to be 30 and doesn't matter that eagles were banged up we still went further with Dave so my point still stands
Please don’t start talking about who can be the head coach after Coach Bowles! That’s partly why Canales & Liam left our organization. Our media constantly put our people down and is always looking for someone’s replacement. True fans want good news, not constant bashing of the team we LOVE!
I say do something unprecedented. Tom Brady proved that a head coach isn't as crucial as an elite QB. But an elite Offensive Coordinator is critical to allow the QB to flourish. So dont hire a head coach! Save the money and hire the best OC and DC possible. Pay them at a league leading level to build continuity. Let them share head coaching duties and fill in the blanks with assistants. It may actually build more unity and collaboration? At the least, help keep great pieces in place instead of punching out just for money. Loyalty matters! Baker Mayfield deserves continuity at OC. So does everyone else.
while this is not a must ..... I like guys off the McVay tree .. that would be a consideration for me (talking to guys like Baker about it, too) OR if not ... someone in-house that can take advantage of what we have built and to not change everything
The question we need to ask is why! Why are we losing all these coaches? I don’t know for sure but the one constant is our Head Coach! Does no one want to work with him? I say it’s time to replace the coach! He should just concentrate on defense!
I still can't believe this lmao 😢😢😢 Bowles should have moved to DC and allow him to takeover. Bowles plays to conservative anf loses us games. He should have went for it on that 4th down.
In house yeah maybe take Gizzard to keep him from Coen. Thad probably deserves a chance, I just don't know if he has the chops, if the window was not open I would be more likely to give him a chance. Whoever they chose one thing is for certain Bowles has his work cut out for him. Whole lot of slots to fill now. The pressure is on bigtime. The window is open for the Buc's, but damn Bowles needs to hit on both fronts. Say what you will about Bowles, but I would rather have him looking to fill all these slots than Coen to be frank. I got a feeling it will be another grab from left park we aren't considering.
Keep Kevin carberry ! don’t let Liam take him he’s he’s transform this run game . I hope we get the rams pass game coordinator or klint kubiak . I’m really just open to anyone with a nice up to date run scheme and can bring the most out of baker .
How did you miss on Josh Grizzard, the Buccaneers current Passing Game Coordinator and a rising star in the eyes of the Bucs organization? I've actually heard he's the favorite because nothing will change in the offense. On top of that, Coen is going to try to take him as the Jaguars Offensive Coordinator. The Bucs can stick it to Coen by promoting him in Tampa, and actually letting him call the plays.
Look we need a season OC we don't need options that's been everywhere not a different team every season! Baker needs a true player caller Thad Lewis should get the nod... We need to bulk up the front line and do better with the scheme calling...
I mean I have nothing against Todd Bowles but let’s be real. He just doesn’t have the fire to take this team to the next level. Let’s clean house. Hire a new HC with fire, move Todd back to DC, get a smart young OC from the college level that averaged more than 28 points a game in the top conferences and let’s run it back!! Most importantly make sure to sign them for more than 1 season!
@ 4000+ yards and 28 touchdowns isn’t avg. but the point is that Dave became a HC. If the next OC also becomes a HC by the end of next season, then you can’t deny that Baker is the HC maker.
It really doesn't matter now. Jason Licht has prided himself on keeping his player. But he failed here. Allowing Bowles to keep Edwards and the secondary coach is not going to make any of this better. This is going to be too hard to overcome. Maybe blow it all up now and get a head start because next year is going to be bad.
@thisaintthat2133..Bowles negates anything the OC's install...that's why they leave...stubborn...he's a 1999 "Jet" coach...and that's the year he lives in...
I feel like everyone chasing the "young long term coach" is giving me I'm 30 and need to get married vibe. Just go find the best coach for the team we have. Bruce and todd werent spring chickens by any means and they won a superbowl together. We could always inject youth into the assistant coaches.
we don't need to hire no one we had interest in last year. we didn't get them last year for a reason. We need to hire from within. The scheme fits our personnel
There is not a good vibe at one Bucs place,everybody is leaving and we are keeping crapy Bowles his defense skim sucks,players enjuries,poor clock management ext,he has cost the team some games every single year the dude is a liability,but because the Glazers got him on the cheap $3 million a year he will stay there are not commited to win . the Jags are going to pay Coen north of $13 million a year,bby the way Bowles is the second lower paid HC on the leage $3 million a year only after canales $2 up $5 million,Coen did what is best for him and his family,this is my opinion if y dont like go cry to mama the Glazers give him an slap on the face with that $4 million offer and he chose otherwise,good for him,Go Bucs
Was it wrong how he handled it, depends how you look at it. But for many to be so pissed need to realize this was a business and personal move. Look at it this way you are in his shoes and you interview for a job, but don't like the hiring manager. then you stay in the company your with and get a raise to stay. Then you get a call from the job you applied for and they said we have fired the hiring manager and will give you 10 mil over 4, you would not take it????? don't look at it as a disgruntled fan but as a person in Coens shoes. YOU ALL WOULD DO IT! He is looking for his families future not yours. These coaches are not fans of the team they coach. its a business. You are hurt because he brought a top 5 offense to Tampa. If any other subpar O.C. did this move, you would not care. And Im a Bucs fan since 1986 living in Chicago. This offense is set up to succeed with any O.C. coming in.
Yall know there will be 8 OCs that will come in to interview and none will sign. It will be an unexpected college OC again. You also have to understand that if an OC signs, there is a ton of pressure to carry Bowles . You have to score a lot because Bowles defense gives up a lot. Just too much pressure to a OC in Tampa .
@@codymartin3284 The thing is, which is why I believe Coen left, is that you put that pressure on the offense, and when the offense delivers you then refuse to trust that offense in a playoff game with 5 minutes left, on 4th and 3 on the commanders 14 yard line. Imagine dealing with the pressure only to make it to the playoffs and watch your HC decide to kick a FG to tie a game and put the entire season on the back of an inconsistent defense who couldnt stop a Commanders team (now in the NFCCG) the entirety of the game, not even forcing them to punt in the game. Imagine knowing that you were 14 yards away from taking the lead and being a game away from the SB yourself, but your HC folded when the pressure was on. Bowles should have been fired, because he showed that he's not a HC but a DC. He took the ball out of Mayfield's hand and the best group of the Bucs which is the offense.
All we needed was defensive tweeks to be a real condender and they just let our offense walk right out the door. Next year will be another year of Todd Bowles mediocrity.
Let’s be real. We’re fucked. You’re not gonna strike 3 times in a row. The offense will regress and the defense sucks. But hey bowles will be gone after next year so silver lining and all
@Tampafan33 it's our players that make these OC's look as good as they are and they aren't going anywhere...promote Thad or Grizzard and we'll be just as good if not better.
@Veedub112 literally everyone who's been "under Bowles" has gotten offered the rarest of opportunities in the league and made bank... y'all really just say shit 😒
I would like to get Thomas Brown. The verbiage would stay the same because he comes from the Sean McVey tree. He was a running back coach and assistant head coach over there. He was the interim head coach over at the Bears where he didn’t get a fair shot. I also believe he’d be great for taking over for Todd one day.
It doesn't matter who the succaneers get they're still not gonna be better or hell even half as good as liam cohen. Because liam cohen worked wonder for that bum faker mayfield and made him look like a star when in reality he's not. Good luck to the succaneers with their search because they're gonna need all the luck they can get. 😂😂😂
He agree to stay and yesterday he was suppose to sign his Tampa contract but no one could get a hold of him and he had secretly went to Jax to discuss the HC position
It's done now .... the ONE THING I will say is that I will say that If his kid was really sick (and I will say that IS TRUE until 1000% proven a lie) ... he is already angry at feeling strong-armed ... but the stress of worrying about your family can make you do strange things. Maybe if he was "thinking more clearly" without that stress he would have handled it more professionally .. it's over now... I feel he handled it poorly but ... whatever ... I wish his family well ... but I never see him back in Tampa Dave Canales i COULD (to some capacity) see being welcome backed to Tampa.
Doesn't the league and Canales Coen realize they landed these new HEAD COACHES they were never head coaches b4 it's not them it's the great players we have look at Atlanta how many head coaches they have had they all get fired ours get promoted because they don't have great players FACT u know I'm RIGHT GO BUCS
Wtf does it matter, we have a good Offense that never gets credit by the media..They ALWAYS credit our OC's but never our players. Like I said last season ANY decent OC we get will get taken everytime because there's too many desperate trash teams in the NFL.
What? Are you on a spectrum? They move on because they get promoted! Everyone would want to go to Todd Bowles, You double your salary! Name me one couch that if presented this chance he would not take it......
@JohnDoe-xp6oh The front office will never fire Bowles unless we don’t win the division. How can you justify firing a coach that takes you to the playoffs every year? I agree that we could do better but it’s not going to happen. It was close this year though. Who knows, if we lose to the Ain’ts on the last day of the regular season we’re out of the playoffs. And the door is open.
Make an in house promotion to keep the scheme. The scheme w/ our offensive players will make anyone look good.
Factsss!!!!!!!
Agree
Smart. Like this a lot
You have a great point
Will Bowles be able to retain any of Coen’s staff? Chances are he’ll do exactly what Canales did and get all or most to follow. Will there be anybody left who knows the system well enough plus has the capability to make changes as needed left?
Baker makes the OC look good .
Actually a pretty good take ngl
Definitely. But having the ability to keep Coaches who succeed is getting to be a problem. This isn't just Coen. Our Front office is bleeding out. Our Capologist is gone. Two Defensive coaches. (The best ones) How can we have any consistency on offense if we have 4 different Offensive Coordinators in 4 years?
💯💯
Some truth to that, but its also all the motion and gap run schemes. Can't really say Baker had a hand in that.
@@Buxfan-fg8bh Heck he was one of the blockers!
One thing we can be assured is the Todd Bowles is 2 for 2 with his OC selection. Also, both previous OCs had a talent to work with on O, so any OC can come in and excel. However we need to get an OC that can take the next step , leadership qualities, ...
Bowels is the better coach it's about integrity with him and the players respect that
Thad Lewis or Josh Grizzard would be the best options. They know the offense the most, and they have a great connection with Baker
No your idiot
I think with both of bucs last two OC’sand the strength of bucs offensive personnel the bucs should be a desirable Oc job.
@JohnDoe-xp6ohi mean… look how he turned around Carolina. They look formidable and Bryce looks way better
@@christopherkotwickidc6926plus we went further in the playoffs with him and got a hc job before Liam I think he was way more sound to be honest
Thad Lewis. Promote from within. Go Bucs!
Wow here we go again it's not easy to keep learning new systems but life goes on . Hang in there offense main thing stay healthy and get stronger 💪 Go bucs
@JohnDoe-xp6oh do you think if our receivers don't get hurt every season or cornerbacks we would have had a better season every season we get hit hard in those areas ?
Promote Josh Grizzard and called it a day…
We should swing big with this next pick my vote would be Lincoln Riley who has past connections with baker at Oklahoma if not him I would be looking to pluck one of the offensive assistants from teams like the rams, Minnesota, Buffalo, or Cincinnati
He’s the coach at usc… no way he’d leave
You do know that Riley makes 10 million per year as the USC Head Football Coach. Will never happen!!!
So you think a head coach in a power five conference is going to leave to be an OC ?
Would you?
Jon gruden. But next up oc coordinator
Goat
His ego might be too big to be an OC again. It would be fun to see him do it and help win a another Super Bowl.
@JohnDoe-xp6ohyes but it’s also on the bucs and bill parcel for pulling a coen and leaving the bucs with no choice. But they dug that grave firing dungy
@JohnDoe-xp6ohwon a SB
Just so you guys know- tbey offered Liam the Snake Cohen a substantial Amout that would have made him the highest paid OC- they just didnt make the offer until after the second interview by then it eas too late..Bucs should have offered the new contract before the season ended thst would have prevented the second interview from happening
Come on Bucs fans it is a step up to become head coach in the nfl no way he was turning that down, Bowles has to blitz alot cause we don't have a secondary some of the defensive issues is drafting (GM picks)
Blaming Licht may be the funniest and most brain-dead shit I've read all day 😂 thanks for that
The thing is he DID turn it down he had a contract set up to return to the Bucs but the day of signing he snuck off to Jacksonville not informing the Bucs and signed a HC contract with the Jags
@JohnDoe-xp6ohits called negotiating… dont like something? Ask for a change. At the end of the day he didnt want it
@JohnDoe-xp6oh Then you turn down the contract or negotiate? There are tons of other ways to handle the situation instead of dodging calls and acting like you're not in Jacksonville when you are. On top of holding off so that the Jags could fulfill the Rooney Rule by interviewing Graham.
Just complete disrespect to the Bucs organization
@JohnDoe-xp6oh How is Todd a DEI hire lmao? Hold up on top of that how does that make Coen any less of a snake to the Bucs Org???
Those pics are hilarious
I prefer that they promote someone from the guys that we have on offense and continue the same system. And I hope that Bowles make it to the NFC Championship cause if not and he finishedagain with 9-8 or 10-7 and done on the wildcard, he will need to go, I'm tired of this OC change every year, and I believe that our franchise QB will appreciate that.
By the way, I challenge you to a competition of who knows more about current Bucs happenings and historical as well. Im talking 1976 buddy…and Im not an old guy, right around your age. I just take details more seriously than you. You thought before you started this “ hey ill do a half butt show on TH-cam and people will watch.” I don’t have to study or prepare for a show. Ill just free style it and hope for the best!! Welp that clearly shows in your lack of details in Bucs history on a “Bucs Show”
@@nightstreak724830ytPdR Do you remember where you were when Spurlock ran back the first kickoff return for a TD in Bucs history? I was in a bar in Orlando shooting pool. I let out a scream and only a couple of people knew what had happened. I still get goosebumps.
were the last two coordinators good? or did baker make the coordinator look good ? and will he make the next coordinator look good also ?
@raymondmenendez8448...you may have a point!
Baker Mayfield has heart and courage. He definitely makes the OCs look better. With our new players like Bucky and J Mac we will have a really good offense. Evans and Godwin will be back. We need good draft picks or free agents on defense and I will have high expectations.
James, you think JL and Glazers will be looking for just an “OC” or an OC that will supersedes Bowles if proven capable of the promotion?
Yes to both lol!
Honestly, I think our offense will be just fine either way. Our passing game was good before Coen, and Bucky completely transformed our running game. I think we've got one of the most attractive offenses for an OC in the league. We'll be okay
Um it was 28 and a little over 4000 yards what are you talking about and we still went further under conales so maybe he was a little more sound then Liam tbh
@JohnDoe-xp6oh you said 4000 not 4500 and 28 pretty much rounds out to be 30 and doesn't matter that eagles were banged up we still went further with Dave so my point still stands
@JohnDoe-xp6oh neither was Coen tbh it was the players who were elite this year. Dave didn't have bucky,Jalen or Sean tucker either
@JohnDoe-xp6oh because the players did that not him any half decent o c should be able to get those numbers out of our players duh?
No to Dorsey...
Poser made his name throwing to Santana Moss, Portis and Shockey
Bucs pass game coordinator. He's also the 3rd down specialist. We know how good our 3rd down percentage was.
Peetes sounds like a mercenary. Haven't we
seen enough of them?
Please don’t start talking about who can be the head coach after Coach Bowles! That’s partly why Canales & Liam left our organization. Our media constantly put our people down and is always looking for someone’s replacement. True fans want good news, not constant bashing of the team we LOVE!
So glad u said it. The amount of hate is crazy if I was Todd I'd haul ass to the saints.
@JohnDoe-xp6ohBowles won the South 3 seasons in a row
I would weather build with in our loyal coaches. If we are teaching a culture we need to all stay together. And “Next Man up” mentality.
I’ll take the job. Then get a head coaching gig the next year
I like Tanner, what he did with the Lions latley
What about Todd Munkan? Is he available? I know he might be looking for a HC position but why not TB. We got some great RBs and receivers.
I say do something unprecedented. Tom Brady proved that a head coach isn't as crucial as an elite QB. But an elite Offensive Coordinator is critical to allow the QB to flourish.
So dont hire a head coach! Save the money and hire the best OC and DC possible. Pay them at a league leading level to build continuity. Let them share head coaching duties and fill in the blanks with assistants.
It may actually build more unity and collaboration? At the least, help keep great pieces in place instead of punching out just for money. Loyalty matters!
Baker Mayfield deserves continuity at OC. So does everyone else.
We need an OC that signs a 2 year contract.
Who here wants Bowles to call both offense and defensive just so we tank for 1st round pick and new staff 🙌 No offense coach this year use Bowles
All I know is as a jags fan bro better workout as HC for us as a day 1 fan my patience gotten really thin especially since 2017
I hope he washes out. He did Tampa dirty.
Go Bucs
while this is not a must ..... I like guys off the McVay tree .. that would be a consideration for me (talking to guys like Baker about it, too)
OR if not ... someone in-house that can take advantage of what we have built and to not change everything
I am totally open to other options ... not focused on that ... whoever is the best fit
The question we need to ask is why! Why are we losing all these coaches? I don’t know for sure but the one constant is our Head Coach! Does no one want to work with him? I say it’s time to replace the coach! He should just concentrate on defense!
They’re getting HC offers….
Money 💵 💰 bro they going for the bag
I still can't believe this lmao 😢😢😢
Bowles should have moved to DC and allow him to takeover. Bowles plays to conservative anf loses us games. He should have went for it on that 4th down.
In house yeah maybe take Gizzard to keep him from Coen. Thad probably deserves a chance, I just don't know if he has the chops, if the window was not open I would be more likely to give him a chance. Whoever they chose one thing is for certain Bowles has his work cut out for him. Whole lot of slots to fill now. The pressure is on bigtime. The window is open for the Buc's, but damn Bowles needs to hit on both fronts. Say what you will about Bowles, but I would rather have him looking to fill all these slots than Coen to be frank. I got a feeling it will be another grab from left park we aren't considering.
A good run has now come to an end.
Just wait
Josh Grizzard is the favorite. Also look at Shane Waldron or Jake Peeze
Keep Kevin carberry ! don’t let Liam take him he’s he’s transform this run game . I hope we get the rams pass game coordinator or klint kubiak . I’m really just open to anyone with a nice up to date run scheme and can bring the most out of baker .
How did you miss on Josh Grizzard, the Buccaneers current Passing Game Coordinator and a rising star in the eyes of the Bucs organization? I've actually heard he's the favorite because nothing will change in the offense. On top of that, Coen is going to try to take him as the Jaguars Offensive Coordinator. The Bucs can stick it to Coen by promoting him in Tampa, and actually letting him call the plays.
Gruden is an amazing option for Bowles and Bucs as offensive coordinator!! LFG!! Bucs Super Bowl next season!
You can't be serious
No oc can stand Todd Bowles for more than one season
Is Todd Monken available?
Look we need a season OC we don't need options that's been everywhere not a different team every season! Baker needs a true player caller Thad Lewis should get the nod... We need to bulk up the front line and do better with the scheme calling...
For me personally I think they sign Grizzard or go after Lincoln Riley as the new OC.
They need to start with a head coach
I agree
Yeah might as well just clean house.
Brian Schottenheimer is another name to watch
Schottenheimer is HC for the Cowpokes as of today.
He will go down the path as Dave canals. Had a bright future but threw it away with the panthers
if hes qualifed give him an interview
I feel bad for Baker having to learn another system what os this number 8 since 2018
Is Lincoln Riley a possibility?
Klint kubiak could get a look
I mean I have nothing against Todd Bowles but let’s be real. He just doesn’t have the fire to take this team to the next level. Let’s clean house. Hire a new HC with fire, move Todd back to DC, get a smart young OC from the college level that averaged more than 28 points a game in the top conferences and let’s run it back!! Most importantly make sure to sign them for more than 1 season!
I’m starting to think Baker is the Head Coach maker. If he does well with the next OC, then it’s confirmed.
@ 4000+ yards and 28 touchdowns isn’t avg. but the point is that Dave became a HC. If the next OC also becomes a HC by the end of next season, then you can’t deny that Baker is the HC maker.
It really doesn't matter now. Jason Licht has prided himself on keeping his player. But he failed here. Allowing Bowles to keep Edwards and the secondary coach is not going to make any of this better. This is going to be too hard to overcome. Maybe blow it all up now and get a head start because next year is going to be bad.
@thisaintthat2133..Bowles negates anything the OC's install...that's why they leave...stubborn...he's a 1999 "Jet" coach...and that's the year he lives in...
Need someone who loves PA
They should get Eric Bieniemy he is dangerous with a good qb!
Go get Davis in Denver.
Baker might be very happy.
QB coach
I feel like everyone chasing the "young long term coach" is giving me I'm 30 and need to get married vibe. Just go find the best coach for the team we have. Bruce and todd werent spring chickens by any means and they won a superbowl together. We could always inject youth into the assistant coaches.
I say just get a guy that runs a similar offense and avoid getting a retread.
Josh grizzard or thad Lewis. They both know the system and most the staff would stay. The downside is neither has called plays in the nfl
Shane Walton
Naw we going with the 3rd down pass coordinate in house
This'll sound crazy but call Dirk Koetter
You’re right. That’s insane.
we don't need to hire no one we had interest in last year. we didn't get them last year for a reason. We need to hire from within. The scheme fits our personnel
There is not a good vibe at one Bucs place,everybody is leaving and we are keeping crapy Bowles his defense skim sucks,players enjuries,poor clock management ext,he has cost the team some games every single year the dude is a liability,but because the Glazers got him on the cheap $3 million a year he will stay there are not commited to win . the Jags are going to pay Coen north of $13 million a year,bby the way Bowles is the second lower paid HC on the leage $3 million a year only after canales $2 up $5 million,Coen did what is best for him and his family,this is my opinion if y dont like go cry to mama the Glazers give him an slap on the face with that $4 million offer and he chose otherwise,good for him,Go Bucs
We need to have Mayfield on the hiring committee
Dude WTF First Canales now Liam
Something under McVay
Was it wrong how he handled it, depends how you look at it. But for many to be so pissed need to realize this was a business and personal move. Look at it this way you are in his shoes and you interview for a job, but don't like the hiring manager. then you stay in the company your with and get a raise to stay. Then you get a call from the job you applied for and they said we have fired the hiring manager and will give you 10 mil over 4, you would not take it????? don't look at it as a disgruntled fan but as a person in Coens shoes. YOU ALL WOULD DO IT! He is looking for his families future not yours. These coaches are not fans of the team they coach. its a business. You are hurt because he brought a top 5 offense to Tampa. If any other subpar O.C. did this move, you would not care.
And Im a Bucs fan since 1986 living in Chicago. This offense is set up to succeed with any O.C. coming in.
Yall know there will be 8 OCs that will come in to interview and none will sign. It will be an unexpected college OC again. You also have to understand that if an OC signs, there is a ton of pressure to carry Bowles . You have to score a lot because Bowles defense gives up a lot. Just too much pressure to a OC in Tampa .
When you live and die by the blitz, that puts a LOT of pressure on your offense to put up points.
@@codymartin3284 The thing is, which is why I believe Coen left, is that you put that pressure on the offense, and when the offense delivers you then refuse to trust that offense in a playoff game with 5 minutes left, on 4th and 3 on the commanders 14 yard line. Imagine dealing with the pressure only to make it to the playoffs and watch your HC decide to kick a FG to tie a game and put the entire season on the back of an inconsistent defense who couldnt stop a Commanders team (now in the NFCCG) the entirety of the game, not even forcing them to punt in the game. Imagine knowing that you were 14 yards away from taking the lead and being a game away from the SB yourself, but your HC folded when the pressure was on. Bowles should have been fired, because he showed that he's not a HC but a DC. He took the ball out of Mayfield's hand and the best group of the Bucs which is the offense.
Not trusting your offense on 4th and 3 IS basically saying you don't trust your OC, so I can see why it turned out this way.
lol WTF are you talking about? Are defense isn't that bad stop it!
@@mattclarke3671please go watch both of the Falcons games . Maybe you missed those .
All we needed was defensive tweeks to be a real condender and they just let our offense walk right out the door. Next year will be another year of Todd Bowles mediocrity.
Who wants to be a HC after a year in tampa?
Hire whoever Baker wants
Let’s be real. We’re fucked. You’re not gonna strike 3 times in a row. The offense will regress and the defense sucks. But hey bowles will be gone after next year so silver lining and all
Let’s not be negative about it until we have to be. Part of it could be that our roster is just good, and you know baker is a good qb lol
We’ve had a Top offense since 2015 . The problem is nobody wants to be under Bowles .
@Tampafan33 it's our players that make these OC's look as good as they are and they aren't going anywhere...promote Thad or Grizzard and we'll be just as good if not better.
@Veedub112 literally everyone who's been "under Bowles" has gotten offered the rarest of opportunities in the league and made bank... y'all really just say shit 😒
@@drittzz9245 and you missing the point . Go some where .
Doesn't matter who the oc is. Still gonna have a terrible defense hahaja
Thad Lewis!!
I would like to get Thomas Brown. The verbiage would stay the same because he comes from the Sean McVey tree. He was a running back coach and assistant head coach over there. He was the interim head coach over at the Bears where he didn’t get a fair shot. I also believe he’d be great for taking over for Todd one day.
enough with the firing...we have issues right now guys, let's deal with those going forward...
It doesn't matter who the succaneers get they're still not gonna be better or hell even half as good as liam cohen. Because liam cohen worked wonder for that bum faker mayfield and made him look like a star when in reality he's not. Good luck to the succaneers with their search because they're gonna need all the luck they can get. 😂😂😂
When will they realize its Baker and the bunch
Wait I thought he was staying ?
He agree to stay and yesterday he was suppose to sign his Tampa contract but no one could get a hold of him and he had secretly went to Jax to discuss the HC position
It's done now .... the ONE THING I will say is that I will say that If his kid was really sick (and I will say that IS TRUE until 1000% proven a lie) ... he is already angry at feeling strong-armed ... but the stress of worrying about your family can make you do strange things. Maybe if he was "thinking more clearly" without that stress he would have handled it more professionally .. it's over now... I feel he handled it poorly but ... whatever ... I wish his family well ... but I never see him back in Tampa
Dave Canales i COULD (to some capacity) see being welcome backed to Tampa.
More upset with losing kacy rogers to detroit
Everyone still wanting Bowles gone, you dont know what you have till its gone i guess.
Bring BRUCE BACK NO RISK FOR IT , NO BISCUITS !!!
If he wants to get out of retirement but I agree but sadly ik he won't
Doesn't the league and Canales Coen realize they landed these new HEAD COACHES they were never head coaches b4 it's not them it's the great players we have look at Atlanta how many head coaches they have had they all get fired ours get promoted because they don't have great players FACT u know I'm RIGHT GO BUCS
Ken Dorsey. Not a good choice
Hehehe.. let's bring Jon Gruden back just for OC. 😊
@JohnDoe-xp6oh he won us a Superbowl doofy
Any chance Godwin leaves us for jags
@Brandenfunk4887...no Godwin wants to be a Buc...why would he leave a SB caliber team go to a dumpster fire...
@ I didn’t think so he’s a man of class, but I fear it is tempting he was putting up nfl wr1 numbers with coen. But also baker.
Wtf does it matter, we have a good Offense that never gets credit by the media..They ALWAYS credit our OC's but never our players. Like I said last season ANY decent OC we get will get taken everytime because there's too many desperate trash teams in the NFL.
Bills got rid of Dorsey
What’s the point, they’ll just move on after one year too. None one wants to have to clean up Todd Bowles mess every week.
What? Are you on a spectrum? They move on because they get promoted! Everyone would want to go to Todd Bowles, You double your salary! Name me one couch that if presented this chance he would not take it......
I can take you serious when you cant spell coach @20sshilk
This anti-Bowles stuff is depressing. Bowles is highly regarded among NFL coaches. The Buccaneers are lucky to have him.
Bowles is a good coach players play hard for him and respect him.
@JohnDoe-xp6oh The front office will never fire Bowles unless we don’t win the division. How can you justify firing a coach that takes you to the playoffs every year? I agree that we could do better but it’s not going to happen. It was close this year though. Who knows, if we lose to the Ain’ts on the last day of the regular season we’re out of the playoffs. And the door is open.
What about chip Kelly. I might even consider Gruden 😂
The new guy will score more than 20 points in the playoffs.🤔🤔
@JohnDoe-xp6oh Maybe don't call a dumb reverse and give the game away.🤷🙆
@JohnDoe-xp6oh Not the same scheme that won us four division titles and a Super Bowl when we scored more points.🤯🙆🤦
Clint bounces around like ping pong ball nobody wants him after a year or 2
Whoever the next OC will be. Will leave after one year. You can't trust any oc to stay in Tampa Bay.
We want keenan mccardel
So Cohen pulled a Belechek move like he did to the Jets..very disappointed in him
He even added his sick kid being at the doctor lie to delay signing with the Bucs as he was flying to Jax. Dude has poor character.
I don't like that we're losing a lot of coaches and personnel. The Bucs next year will not be good!
You don't sound like a Bucs fan. Maybe a trolling Saints or Falcons fan.