If Grizzard can communicate and call plays, move him up!! Keep the playbook you currently have and continue to be successful on offense! Bringing in a new OC with their own system and terminology is crazy if you already have a winning formula and a high powered offense! Please don't change things on the guys, Baker has been through enough and it's easier to get one person up to speed with your offense than to get the whole offense up to speed with new terminology and schemes, don't start from scratch again!
@@lyndelf 💯 i feel you i dont know all ball, but its really just 11 personnel, with stretch then run counter because we have athletic guards that can pull and then all that he would add RPO's if the lb crash the run we throw behind him, with our talent, anybody can come in here and run a scheme, but I want them to run the ball and have good situational play calling
This should be an OCs dream to come to Tampa and work with this offense, can’t wait! Lost all respect for Liam, i’m a coach for 25 years, always teach my kids to be the better person…Liam did not, it’s inexcusable behavior.
So, its crazy that a guy would take a job paying prob at least 10 mill per year instead of 3.5. I mean it's a dream come true to make 1/3 of what you could. Making in 1 year what you would in 3 as the OC probably had nothing to do with the decision.
Nothing wrong with what he did when you look at the big picture. Bucs can’t legally enforce the “cancel your 2nd interview.” Coen called their BS and scheduled anyway. Did he lie, yes, but what he did is no worse than the Bucs trying to strong-arm him into not interviewing.l when they have no legal standing to do so.
We need to find the last pieces of fruit off the McVay tree and pick one of them. Alternatively bring back BA as OC but doubt he’d take it and he and Baker may clash. And lastly, here’s a crazy idea, Ronde Barber has been great on those film session breakdowns, it seems like he clearly has a good mind for the game. Ask him if he wants to be OC, it’s also a good stepping stone to a HC position as well.
WTF? Coens gone? Are we the NFL training center for new head coaches?! Sorry, but that really sucks bigtime!!!! (I am german, so the news get to me hours later!)
Combination of both. Bucs have plenty of taken on offense. Liam’s ability to innovate and adapt to personnel was evident. Bucs hope to find someone just as good or better.
Should we just expect from now on if we have a good coach he will only stay for one year? Clearly keeping Coen was not a priority or he would still be in Tampa.
We believe Coen was a priority and obviously with the contract to make him highest paid OC. He wanted to be a HC and got that with Jaguars. It’s unfortunate part of business. Bucs will be okay.
@@RealBucsTalk So he accepted the new contract and had a last-minute change of mind? We have been praising him as a man of character because he committed to staying. Obviously, money talked.
@JohnDoe-xp6ohall valid. Bottom line Bowles wasn’t getting fired and now all pressure is on him to get the defense right. Licht will give him more talent to work with.
hey, it is what it is. They knew before hiring him that he bounced around from college to pro to college to pro he was a first year offensive coordinator. He did a decent job but he had his mistakes crucial mistakes in situational play calling who knows if he's going to be a good head coach because it looks like to me he has no leadership from this stunt he pulled, we will find somebody that can run the stretch counter and duo with RPO. We will be OK.
@ man get off my post with this racist right wing nut job DEI hire shit, Coen has never even been a head head he may not be worth a damn, he’s definitely a snake, anybody can draw up plays with talent, but Todd is a leader of men, stupid ass comment
When Todd Bowles folded in a "win or go home" playoff game and decided to kick a FG with 5 mins left instead of trusting Coen and going for the win vs the Commanders (who's now playing in the NFCCG), not only did Bowles lose the playoff game, but he lost his OC that same night. THIS is why I said that the Bucs should have fired Bowles after that and made Coen the HC.
@RealBucsTalk Im not saying that Bowles deserved to be fired solely to keep Coen, no. The man folded in a playoff game, took the ball out of the hand of Mayfield and the offense, and decided that the entire season will live or die on the back of an inconsistent defense. That's utterly ridiculous. One of the results of this happens to be losing one of the best OC's/coaches in the league.
@SecondWindStories 4th and 3 ??? And if Bucs didn't make that 1st down, Bucs Fans (?) would've called for his head in the field. Look what Washington did to Detroit. At least, they only scored 23 pts.
Not saying the way he went about it was right. And if the shoe was on the other foot I'd be pissed as a fan. But thank you we need help saving this poverty franchise
@RealBucsTalk hoping for his success really? Fuck that guy he's a shitty person and a snake. Every owner has seen the guy he is. If this doesn't work he will never be a coach in the nfl again.
Yeah bruh a snake for that that's not sturdy at all real coward like. Liam did not operate on man time. Part of it is the media too They kept putting the battery in his back oh it's one of 32 so you have to take it no matter what man shut up. Watch cuz fall on his face just watch.
@ do the only reason he has success is that he has Baker, Mayfield, Chris Godwin and big Mike his defense is horrible. They can’t get pressure unless they blitz. Secondary is the worst in the league the coaching staff is the worst in the league that are playing in the worst division of the league but next year Atlanta’s gonna make a big swing and don’t count out New Orleans he’s gonna really show how Bad the bucs are next year it’s not the players. It’s the coaching staff.
If Grizzard can communicate and call plays, move him up!! Keep the playbook you currently have and continue to be successful on offense! Bringing in a new OC with their own system and terminology is crazy if you already have a winning formula and a high powered offense! Please don't change things on the guys, Baker has been through enough and it's easier to get one person up to speed with your offense than to get the whole offense up to speed with new terminology and schemes, don't start from scratch again!
@@lyndelf 💯 i feel you i dont know all ball, but its really just 11 personnel, with stretch then run counter because we have athletic guards that can pull and then all that he would add RPO's if the lb crash the run we throw behind him, with our talent, anybody can come in here and run a scheme, but I want them to run the ball and have good situational play calling
Just have Baker in the their calling plays and doing his thing. Defiantly should keep it in house.
On to the next #gobucs
This should be an OCs dream to come to Tampa and work with this offense, can’t wait! Lost all respect for Liam, i’m a coach for 25 years, always teach my kids to be the better person…Liam did not, it’s inexcusable behavior.
buddy is mad 😂
@JohnDoe-xp6oh yet conalez went further in the playoffs. Be real
So, its crazy that a guy would take a job paying prob at least 10 mill per year instead of 3.5. I mean it's a dream come true to make 1/3 of what you could. Making in 1 year what you would in 3 as the OC probably had nothing to do with the decision.
Nothing wrong with what he did when you look at the big picture. Bucs can’t legally enforce the “cancel your 2nd interview.” Coen called their BS and scheduled anyway. Did he lie, yes, but what he did is no worse than the Bucs trying to strong-arm him into not interviewing.l when they have no legal standing to do so.
Maybe we have good offensive players that's making the offensive coordinators look good.
It definitely helps.
@@ElvinAtTheMovies 💯
Coen wont have the players in Jacksonville that made his offense successful in Tampa.
Coen was a HUGE upgrade over Canales, Coen is in a different class. I hope they go with someone from the McVay tree to keep the continuity.
We need to find the last pieces of fruit off the McVay tree and pick one of them. Alternatively bring back BA as OC but doubt he’d take it and he and Baker may clash. And lastly, here’s a crazy idea, Ronde Barber has been great on those film session breakdowns, it seems like he clearly has a good mind for the game. Ask him if he wants to be OC, it’s also a good stepping stone to a HC position as well.
No to your 2 and 3 suggestions. But likely will either go internal or explore option with Jake Peetz.
WTF? Coens gone? Are we the NFL training center for new head coaches?! Sorry, but that really sucks bigtime!!!! (I am german, so the news get to me hours later!)
New coach for Jaguars
No, our HC is a repellant of talented coaching.
did the last two coordinators make baker good? or did baker make the coordinator look good?
Combination of both. Bucs have plenty of taken on offense. Liam’s ability to innovate and adapt to personnel was evident. Bucs hope to find someone just as good or better.
@@RealBucsTalk would we pick someone from the college ranks ?
@@raymondmenendez8448possible, leaning towards the internal candidates. And meant to say Talent above not Taken. I’m tired.
Should we just expect from now on if we have a good coach he will only stay for one year? Clearly keeping Coen was not a priority or he would still be in Tampa.
We believe Coen was a priority and obviously with the contract to make him highest paid OC. He wanted to be a HC and got that with Jaguars. It’s unfortunate part of business. Bucs will be okay.
@@RealBucsTalk So he accepted the new contract and had a last-minute change of mind? We have been praising him as a man of character because he committed to staying. Obviously, money talked.
@JohnDoe-xp6ohall valid. Bottom line Bowles wasn’t getting fired and now all pressure is on him to get the defense right. Licht will give him more talent to work with.
hey, it is what it is. They knew before hiring him that he bounced around from college to pro to college to pro he was a first year offensive coordinator. He did a decent job but he had his mistakes crucial mistakes in situational play calling who knows if he's going to be a good head coach because it looks like to me he has no leadership from this stunt he pulled, we will find somebody that can run the stretch counter and duo with RPO. We will be OK.
@ man get off my post with this racist right wing nut job DEI hire shit, Coen has never even been a head head he may not be worth a damn, he’s definitely a snake, anybody can draw up plays with talent, but Todd is a leader of men, stupid ass comment
Would love for the Glazers to hire McCardell!
You don't want my thoughts! lol
Don’t be shy, say what you want. Appreciate the support
I agree we should hire in house and run the same offense. Good luck to Liam but the way he left is dirty. Im not rooting for him
I believe they will lean that way but we shall see.
Face it. Ev1 wants to get out if that town as fast as possible... even after a ring
Lol
The Bucs arent looking for a new OC for the 4th straight year. Its the 3rd straight year.
True but will be 4th OC under Bowles. Leftwich, Canales Coen and now new guy.
@mpless15 Still not fourth straight year. Bucs are looking for their fourth straight OC.
@@bakerman1971 yes correct. Made change in description. Either way it’s 4th OC under Bowles
FIRE TODD BOWLES!!
Lol not happening this year.
@ Unfortunately, I know. But I plan on keeping up with my rant until the Bucs do.
Go get doug Pederson as a jags fan would like to see what he can do not on the jags
Doubt they will but who knows.
Need to keep Oline coach.
2:38 Wait McDaniels? As in Josh McDaniels? Uh oh…
Mike Mcdaniels with Miami.
When Todd Bowles folded in a "win or go home" playoff game and decided to kick a FG with 5 mins left instead of trusting Coen and going for the win vs the Commanders (who's now playing in the NFCCG), not only did Bowles lose the playoff game, but he lost his OC that same night. THIS is why I said that the Bucs should have fired Bowles after that and made Coen the HC.
Bowles didn’t deserve to be fired but needed to keep Coen. It’s unfortunate they tried to but he wanted to be a HC. Bucs will regroup.
@RealBucsTalk Im not saying that Bowles deserved to be fired solely to keep Coen, no. The man folded in a playoff game, took the ball out of the hand of Mayfield and the offense, and decided that the entire season will live or die on the back of an inconsistent defense. That's utterly ridiculous. One of the results of this happens to be losing one of the best OC's/coaches in the league.
@@RealBucsTalkdon’t listen to secondwind he has 2 brain cells
What about waney blitzed Stafford, and left cup and a man position to keep us out of the Super Bowl the guy makes bad decisions consistently
@SecondWindStories 4th and 3 ??? And if Bucs didn't make that 1st down, Bucs Fans (?) would've called for his head in the field. Look what Washington did to Detroit. At least, they only scored 23 pts.
Too many ums and uhs 🤷🏼♂️
I will be better. It was a hard day.
@ not you Pless you’re killing today. Grizzard talking to media was hard to listen to
Chip Kelly!
Maybe
Not saying the way he went about it was right. And if the shoe was on the other foot I'd be pissed as a fan. But thank you we need help saving this poverty franchise
Hope he finds success with the Jaguars, more frustrating Bucs have to find another OC.
@RealBucsTalk hoping for his success really? Fuck that guy he's a shitty person and a snake. Every owner has seen the guy he is. If this doesn't work he will never be a coach in the nfl again.
He is a Snake! Enjoy your Prize!
This guy did some ho shit though, said he took his son to the doctor now what if his son get sick fr
Son is sick. It’s been confirmed. But yes agreed it was not handled properly by him.
You came up with some of the worst candidates
Lol what would be your list. I went with one that make sense internally and externally. We will learn more names in the upcoming days.
Yeah bruh a snake for that that's not sturdy at all real coward like. Liam did not operate on man time.
Part of it is the media too They kept putting the battery in his back oh it's one of 32 so you have to take it no matter what man shut up.
Watch cuz fall on his face just watch.
Definitely could have handled it better for sure.
With this guys um's and Bowles "miscommunications" the Bucs might become a bunch mumbling bumbling idiots 😂
Lol
To be baker oc is the best way to get hc job
Please dont hire that dude
Which one? Grizzard? We shall see, expect them to interview and look at all avenues.
@RealBucsTalk yea gizzard.. please don't do an experiment... Let's get a already proven play caller
Who is this guy? He looks like he could be a dorky looking baker mayfield
Josh Grizzard.
But have a horrible head coach. They will never get quality or loyalty whit this dei hire
Time will tell for sure.
@ do the only reason he has success is that he has Baker, Mayfield, Chris Godwin and big Mike his defense is horrible. They can’t get pressure unless they blitz. Secondary is the worst in the league the coaching staff is the worst in the league that are playing in the worst division of the league but next year Atlanta’s gonna make a big swing and don’t count out New Orleans he’s gonna really show how Bad the bucs are next year it’s not the players. It’s the coaching staff.
Just admit it your a racist dei hire man I swear nvm