nelson out here making 6 mil, hayes getting a garbage contract, skinner 9 mil, marner about to get 11 mil.....and people still talking about Nylander's 6.9. That 6.9 is about to be a steal when he goes point per game with a full season with Matthews.
Brock Nelson and Kevin Hayes Contracts are going to be the catalyst for an NHL Lockout in 15 Months from now. Yes, the NHL or NHLPA have the option to terminate the current CBA after the 2019-20 Season. One side has to notify the other at some point in September.
The issue was that Nylander's contract set the stage for the next negotiations. Also, Nylander got 7.45M which ended up being a 6.9 cap hit due to the missed games. In contract negotiations they would use the value of the contract not the technical cap hit. Marner is a special player. He has ice vision and hockey IQ that makes Gretzky excited.... they should have signed him for 9 last year.
Kadri and Reilly are the best value contracts on the team, would be ridiculous to trade Kadri. @ Bubbles but the Leafs always trade players who are cup ready like Kessel and Bozak . Leafs are to small to young a cup is years away . . .
@@hb99-u2w That is such a crock of shit. Coming from a Bruins fan, he was the best player the Leafs had offensively in the first round and his grit is too unmatched, especially by the rest of the Leafs who lack grit and have finesse instead. But what is finesse when you and your team would rather play Fortnite after the game than score some goals and move on to ROUND 2.
@@buddyguy2669 ok then trade Kadri to the Bruins, we're sick of his BS - I actually think he is not that great - the grit you see is in frustration being unable to outplay opponents he has to hack and hit them late and illegally - if Kadri could forecheck like he is supposed to the Leafs would have won the cup
Why is Marner expected to sign for 8 years when Matthews signed for 5 years, Johnsson for 4, and Kapanen for 3? This is Kyle Dubas's fault, not Marner's
@@wesmcguffin5710 I get you but Marner bills himself as a 'hometown lovin' Toronto boy....begs the question then, what's wrong with eight years? Again I'm commenting only on rumour. I hope to hell his contract can be worked out.
@@maydanlex because 5 years from now his value would be around 14-15 million, salaries are trending up in the NHL he doesn't want to be stuck in an under valued deal. Leafs gotta offer the same contract they did to matthews.
@Antonio DG Sarcasm...Good for you....but maybe building a team that pays a third line player 7m per year is not ideal and would probably get a lot of criticism from the pro world. My statement was made to identify the predicament this cap crunch has us in and the possible impact. Unless you can find a Tyler Ennis to play 3rd line C for 1m i dont think we're in a position to add any quality replacement. Kadri at 4.5 is probably best value per dollar in the league or close to it so that makes me think he really cant be moved. If anyone goes out Im guessing it will be from our strength on RW....Kappy & Brown. Even now with Marleau gone it puts us in a position to sign Kappy & Johnsson and Marner but there's still work to be done on defence and the back-up goalie. Gonna need to find another 6-8m to do that i'm guessing. We need 2 d and a backup and I don't think Zaitzevs going anywhere.
Lol.. I was at the Panthers vs leads game in March when Tavares lit up lou for his first 4 goal game of his career. Was epic. When I saw lou hit the ice I cheered. Then I cheered when Tavares got the hat, and cheered even louder when he got goal #4
Avs and Leafs would be great trade partners right now. Avs need secondary scoring Kadri or Nylander. Leafs need cap relief and a right hand D. Tyson Barrie available. Obviously there would be more pieces but they could work something out.
shows the leafs aren't putting enough emphasis in scouting on the players character. They need skilled players that want to win a cup, instead of the skilled players that want to make an extra couple millions a year. Drafting greedy players over cup hungry players has hurt the leafs in this rebuild
@@aikhis You could be right.Scouts need to see how involved their parents are.Obviously parents are getting involved big time in contract negotiations making the ordeal very emotional for all.This is not turning out good.We all know what happens when parents get too involved ask Eric Lindros and Nylander's parents yikes.
@@johnb1877 why would someone take less than they're worth? Marner knows someone will pay him what hes asking so why take less? Would you take a pay cut at your job?
@@aikhis it shows that the leafs drafted great players. Almost very team that missed out on the chance to draft Rielly,marner,nylander and Matthew's are kicking themselves.
Trade Kadri for Bozak. Bozak could be a great 3rd line center. He’s a cup champion now. Im sure he would be able to really show the young guys. Give some time and I really think Bozak would be a great fit for the leafs.... ;)
I knew it as soon as I heard it. All you have to do is look at the teams salary cap and then evaluate their strengths and weaknesses, with the d issues they cant pay all those guys. Thry banked heavy on selling them all on discounts, but there is no reason to these days. You have on avg 2 to 5 years to make some money the rest who play longer are lucky
How did having a right hand shot and left hand shot on defense become a babcock thing?? Pretty sure its called a hockey thing since the beginning of time...
Because apparently it was only once Babcock went to Toronto that this revelation was made! You know the rest of us who dont live in the so called "Hockey Universe" are so blessed to have the TSNs of the world to fill us with knowledge.
You guys are all wrong and have been wrong about Nylander. His 6.9 Mil contract is going to be a steal and bargain as I said this months ago. Look at players that are already getting 7 mil per year contracts and they are 50 point players. Nylander is easily going to hit minimum 60 pts per year but more likely reach the 70-80 point range if they keep him with Matthews. Nylander's 6.9 million is a bargain because look how high the contracts are going up already and it's only been 6 months since Nylander's contract.
Remember when everyone said Nylander was a bad deal at 6.9? LOL. The leafs will sign Marne for between 10-12 million. They can do that. In that case, One or two of Kadri, Marleau, Brown, and Kapanen will have to be traded to sort out that D. It isn’t simplest but the leafs have some of the best cap management guys in the league.
Lol it was Babcock who started the right hand d thing and he pushed Holland to sell the farm to get one and even then Detroit get a couldn't get a good one Lidstrom played both sides. Guess players can't turn on thier off wing 😂😂😂
The Leafs overpay all of their players. This will inevitably end badly for them. They'll probably overpay Marner and lose an underrated player like Kapanen.
Leafs are still the Leafs. Signing big over priced contracts, signing away good people, and still not getting past the 1st round. Only thing is that it almost always turns out well for thems that get moved/ traded ...look at Bozak !
Jeffsframe maybe they could make it past the Bruins if they found someone on defence who isn’t afraid to decapitate players like Marchand with a lariat when they enter the Leafs zone lmao
I dont care who the leafs trade, if it helps make them better and it helps get them past the first round and on a cup run in the playoff then I say trade who ever it takes. The Leafs have a lot of assets that can be traded for what they need.
Hey, I love the game of hockey! We are paying guys huge contracts that haven’t won anything. If there was ever a time the Leafs should have been a contender for the cup was last season. Those big dogs need to take a pay cut so that teams can afford to get the players they need to win. Crosby has been making under 10 million for years so that the owners can build a team around him and others. Oh, and they have won 3 cups while he’s been there.
It’s stupid to even contemplate moving the best cheapest contracts. Move the older like Marleau. Leafs have the defensemen on the Marlies. Let Sandin and Liljegren play whether they’re ready or not. It might be a bad year but it can’t be worse defensively. They score their way out anyways
Jack Makackov yup. Tavares was nice but they didn’t need him and they sped their rebuild up and they didn’t look far enough into the future as to what they really needed rather than what they wanted
Dear writers, this show is not good at present. Hersay & conjecture to fill the living room with static noise wastes such potential of a great platform to really understand hockey. Break it down in order to explain the reasoning. Feraro is not the guy I'd talk to about TML MGMT & coaching strategy.
So tired of Toronto media and fans complaining about the cap. The Leafs are the ones who got themselves in this mess stop blaming the cap. You went and got JT last year at 11 mil, they gave Zaitsev a dumb contract, the NHL didn't make you do this the Leafs did it so cry me a river.
Thomas - Lmao! I've followed hockey for a long time but I've only been talking to people online about it for the last three seasons. Being in the USA i didn't know why people complained about Leafs fans and Toronto media all the time. After last year with JT i completely understand now. I feel bad for non Leafs fans in Ontario lol.
@@aramondehasashi3324 | Yeah they are clueless😂🤣. They are like a kid a Christmas...they must have every player in the league😂. The Marleau contract is killing them😂🤣 and no GM is gonna take that dumbass contract off their books 😂🤣 The Toronto media and fan base fucking kill me😂🤣😂
@@Canadianbassist | yes!! That contract was so fucking stupid. Its like the front office cannot do the most basic math operations. How they couldn't see that their young players were due in 2019 i'll never no...seriously, what a stupid sigining.
Also everyone knows that the Leafs are bent over the table right now in regards to the cap. They know the Leafs need to move players so wont make it easy.
The Leafs are to young and small . Look at St Louis that's a team full of hardened men who were ready to make a cup run . Toronto fans are dreaming if they think the Leafs are going to win the cup in the next 5 years . Win are lose the seats are full Toronto is a NHL farm team for up and coming players who are cup ready like Kessel and Bozak .
@Cameron Rose I read faces i took one look at the Blues team in November and said that looks like a team that could win the cup i was right . People laughed and look what happened . Leafs will be lucky to win the cup in the next 5 years if all goes well . I believe the Leafs will win the cup 2030 .
I like Holl and Rosen so Leafs defence looks fine. I say trade Brown and Kadri with Zaitsev for another good Dman, left or right. And I do like keeping Ennis on 4th line, Gauthier is fine with me, he is developing and played better and better last year. Give these guys a chance, the Goat must be really working out this summer, he is quite fast for a big guy, good on PK too, Brown though, he is just wasted space on any line, he has to be very lucky to score even though he gets primo shots all the time, biggest thing is though he doesn't move the puck well, he panics, dumps it in, just takes an easy long shot at net etc, basically those are all giveaways, don't know what happened to his offensive ability but his defence isn't anything special either, not worth over 1.5 and no place on a winning team for this deadend slug
This team has no plan going forward. Dubas is clearly out of his element. Does he understand what the cap is? Ownership only wants the money, not a winner.
"They haven't won a thing and they're fighting against cap issues" ..... That pretty much sums up the Leafs. What a couple of years ago looked like the makings of a potential dynasty team is being destroyed by what is nothing more than greed. Say what you will, "the players have the right" , "why should they leave money on the table", blah, blah, blah..... the ugly reality is that none of these kids give a fuck about the team and they sure as hell don't give a shit about the fans. If they did they all would have gotten together among themselves and figured out what they needed to do to make this a viable project. They're all going to be disgustingly wealthy, that they'll jeopardize the potential of this group to be marginally more wealthy is pathetic
Lmao maybe Nylander isn't in trade rumors because it would be stupid to trade a player like Nylander at the cap hit he's at when you can move other pieces to clear cap. Why does Toronto media want Nylander gone so much
I think they're just getting at the fact that you don't put your third best left-handed defenceman on the third pairing for the second best righty if said lefty is the better player. They also mean don't think you're set just because you grabbed a right-handed guy. Think Ian White with Nick Lidstrom.
Why does everyone think Nylander is going to be great just because he will play Matthews. Look at Edmonton. They have Draisatl and McDavid at center but the rest of the team cant put rhe puck in the net. Nobody wants Nylander because of his contract
Nylander is the big divider among Leafs fans. There are fans who want to powder and kiss his ass, and there are fans who want him traded for a bag of pucks (and a right shot d).
I hear cody franson wants back in the NHL hes a 6 foot 5 220lb puck moving right handed defenseman. Hes gonna drive a hard bargain. Easily gonna get 6 million because of his status lmfao
If the Leafs want a cup they will trade the super stars and build a team full of full grown men who can take and give a hit like St Louis . They say the game is changing but St Louis just used the trap and size and grit to win a cup .
Yes that shows how competent (or otherwise) their management is. All the best payers in the league have been first round picks. You build a great team with first round picks. Dumb management will trade them away.
Right shot defenceman? Leafs have given up Polak, Carrick, Zaitsev and Ozhaganov. Quality matters! The best defence corps ever was Robinson, Lapointe, Savard and Langway - all left shots.
You media talking heads are funny. Going around and around and around and around with hypotheticals and this team has this guy who scored this many making this much. Worthless. Flat out, Toronto mismanaged their dollars and invested 41% of the current cap into 3 players (presuming Marner signs for $11m). And they're all forwards. In 4 years having 3 $11m guys may not be as big a deal once league revenue inevitably goes up with Seattle joining the league, a new CBA being negotiated, and the new league TV deal that's forthcoming, but for now the front office has fucked the team hard. Shit, Toronto has almost as much invested in Matthews @ $11.634m as they do in the 5 Dmen they have signed right now ($15.04m). What kind of sense does that make for an NHL team that has Stanley Cup aspirations? And yet somehow in the 14:20 I watched of this video, none 1 person mentions this. Fucking embarrassing!
Tony Caniggia look at Kevin Hayes’ contract and then tell me Nylander deserves less money than him. The plug go 7/$7.14M, that makes Nylander look like nothing.
Leafs, welcome to cap hell. Good luck on balancing your team. Crazy GM. 11 million for you. 11.6 million for 60 pt guy. Ohh, sorry Mitch we can’t pay you 11 mil coz you only scored 94 pts. What f@@ked up GM.
@@deepbodalia1063 what are you... a gypsy? How do you know a perennial 65 ish point guy is the future? Are you in a Delorean right now? One day Matthews may deserve 11 mil but to get that contract from me he should have produced like 11 mil if he wanted 11 mil
The leafs iconic Our staff iconic Dubas ...iconic Our rooster iconic The fan base iconic. Bye We gon be alright 2019-2020 season will be fun. Hope the deals get made and they remain great
Leafs MAY still win Cup, may still win multiple cups. But for me they were cant miss untill they lost Lamorillo. Add losing Mark Hunter on top of that, an inexperienced Kyle Dubas, and youre potentially snatching failure from the jaws of destiny.
That's not why he's not being shopped, he's not being shopped because he's a great player and we want to keep him. Point blank. Had an off year because of coming in late. Will be a 70 point guy next season.
soaringbullet I think so. Ima die hard leaf fan too, but after game two they were scared shitless lol bawston really flexed their muscle that game and threw the leafs off.
Cameron Rose I’ve seen multiple guys shy away from the corner more den a few times, I remember this well because I remember getting real pissed off by it and making a snap About it lol and chara is 40+ years old I expect the tiny speedster guys to have an advantage on that grandpa lol that’s why Kadri took a suspension for an easy way out loljk That was a gutsy move by Kadri tho.
trade zaitsev, gardner, nylander, marleau asap...get a couple ron hainsy's/jake gardner's on d, and pay marner. and we're cooking. leafs need a bit more old time hockey/grit to start winning in the playoffs/win the cup. and they better not...they better NOT get rid of marner/kappenen/brown (and keep nylander) - they better NOT fucking do that !!!
@Cameron Rose hence the point c.rose...get rid of nylander, marleau, zaitsev and gardner, and youll have $$ to pay marner !!! and also get a couple more good quality/gritty players, that the leafs desperatly need . itll be a travesty if they keep nylander at 6.9m/yr, marleau 6.25/yr, zaitsev 4.5m/yr, and get rid of marner and say kappenen and/or brown. so ill re-iterate - they better NOT fucking do that !!! ill take marner, kappenen and brow over nylander, marleau, and zaitsev any day of the week.
@@jordan-sp4db and getting 4 first round picks to go with the 4 first round picks they already have over the next 4 years, meaning they can flip half those 1st round picks to address needs on D while picking up a couple of forwards who can sustain a forecheck...while still having 4 first round picks to keep the cupboard stalked with young talent coming up. All for one player. I hope someone does offer sheet Marner
@@jordan-sp4db True, but if you look at just about any team in the league, and who their 4 most recent 1st round picks, it's hard to find very many that wouldn't we at least worth Mitch Marner, or any other player in the league for that matter. I love Marner, but if it came between getting 4 first round picks and having the cap space to sign a big name UFA or 2, or matching an offer sheet for Mitch Marner at, say $11 million AAV, it would be tough to turn down the draft picks, especially when the team has another 2 or 3 star forwards
@@JoeBlythe Leafs are cup contenders now picks are useless.We need players now developing them those days are over.Leafs can afford $10.5 million over that and Dubas won't be able to match. Unless we trade Nylander for Pesce or Faulk from Carolina. My advice to Dubas is to get this Marner negotiation in the media it has not worked behind closed doors so far.Dubas dropped the first bomb yesterday.NHL GM's are calling Dubas bluff. I expect a few more cough cough leaks from the Leafs this weekend. But Dubas made a good point.Other teams with RFA players have not made any moves yet over cap issues so this tells me when it starts to roll one deal there will be a dynamo effect.
Do not trade kadri... he is our only player who has true grit. He is a play off guy and he does not quit on you like a nylander does. Let's be honest unload nylander and his fat contract
@TTCGamer Kadri isnt that dumb to go ahead and get himself suspended for a third time...if he is then he could say bye bye that same day. but you cant give away a 30-goal scorer @ 4.5mill a year. Yes he had an off year but then again....he became a 3rd line center without the same roles as the previous years. I think he should be awarded another year, hes proven himself to change in the past. Besides...he is the oldest leaf (since 2009)
Grinders, big defense - give up the speed and some talent for this and you will win. They need to do what the Raptors did, make a change to the culture and identity of this team.
@@BillC-64 that's because your comment is so wrong and out of touch with how today's game is played, it doesnt deserve an argument. I would bet everything I own that you are over the age of 40
Hiya this joe in Toronto. ..?.what the fuck is dubas doing. This guy is not ready. He can't make a trade, he has no clue how to sign players. I am a self made millionaire and dubas talks like the kind of guy who has made me rich. Dubas is not ready for leafs g.m.
nelson out here making 6 mil, hayes getting a garbage contract, skinner 9 mil, marner about to get 11 mil.....and people still talking about Nylander's 6.9. That 6.9 is about to be a steal when he goes point per game with a full season with Matthews.
But, what if he tanks next year
Nylander is much more likely to crack 70 points next year than have the year he had last year again (say 40 points over a full season).
Brock Nelson and Kevin Hayes Contracts are going to be the catalyst for an NHL Lockout in 15 Months from now. Yes, the NHL or NHLPA have the option to terminate the current CBA after the 2019-20 Season. One side has to notify the other at some point in September.
The issue was that Nylander's contract set the stage for the next negotiations.
Also, Nylander got 7.45M which ended up being a 6.9 cap hit due to the missed games. In contract negotiations they would use the value of the contract not the technical cap hit.
Marner is a special player. He has ice vision and hockey IQ that makes Gretzky excited.... they should have signed him for 9 last year.
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Did you not see Nelson dominate Crosby in the playoffs?
And he’s a consistent 20 goal guy
Kadri and Reilly are the best value contracts on the team, would be ridiculous to trade Kadri.
Kadri and Reilly are the best value contracts on the team, would be ridiculous to trade Kadri. @ Bubbles but the Leafs always trade players who are cup ready like Kessel and Bozak . Leafs are to small to young a cup is years away . . .
Gord Somers love kadri and his contract. But he hasn’t been there when we needed him most
@@hb99-u2w That is such a crock of shit. Coming from a Bruins fan, he was the best player the Leafs had offensively in the first round and his grit is too unmatched, especially by the rest of the Leafs who lack grit and have finesse instead. But what is finesse when you and your team would rather play Fortnite after the game than score some goals and move on to ROUND 2.
@@buddyguy2669 ok then trade Kadri to the Bruins, we're sick of his BS - I actually think he is not that great - the grit you see is in frustration being unable to outplay opponents he has to hack and hit them late and illegally - if Kadri could forecheck like he is supposed to the Leafs would have won the cup
If Marner really rejected 11 million over eight then I'm off the Marner wagon.
Why is Marner expected to sign for 8 years when Matthews signed for 5 years, Johnsson for 4, and Kapanen for 3? This is Kyle Dubas's fault, not Marner's
@@wesmcguffin5710 I get you but Marner bills himself as a 'hometown lovin' Toronto boy....begs the question then, what's wrong with eight years? Again I'm commenting only on rumour. I hope to hell his contract can be worked out.
@@maydanlex because 5 years from now his value would be around 14-15 million, salaries are trending up in the NHL he doesn't want to be stuck in an under valued deal. Leafs gotta offer the same contract they did to matthews.
@@nate9347 Ok . Understood. 14-15 million not a given though....but I kinda think you 're right.
Somehow I bet you have been cheering for him since this post 🤣🤣
If Kadri gets traded Nylander has to play center
@Antonio DG Sarcasm...Good for you....but maybe building a team that pays a third line player 7m per year is not ideal and would probably get a lot of criticism from the pro world. My statement was made to identify the predicament this cap crunch has us in and the possible impact. Unless you can find a Tyler Ennis to play 3rd line C for 1m i dont think we're in a position to add any quality replacement. Kadri at 4.5 is probably best value per dollar in the league or close to it so that makes me think he really cant be moved. If anyone goes out Im guessing it will be from our strength on RW....Kappy & Brown. Even now with Marleau gone it puts us in a position to sign Kappy & Johnsson and Marner but there's still work to be done on defence and the back-up goalie. Gonna need to find another 6-8m to do that i'm guessing. We need 2 d and a backup and I don't think Zaitzevs going anywhere.
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Lol.. I was at the Panthers vs leads game in March when Tavares lit up lou for his first 4 goal game of his career. Was epic. When I saw lou hit the ice I cheered. Then I cheered when Tavares got the hat, and cheered even louder when he got goal #4
He’s definitely long term injury. Less cap penalty and he gets paid.
Avs and Leafs would be great trade partners right now. Avs need secondary scoring Kadri or Nylander. Leafs need cap relief and a right hand D. Tyson Barrie available. Obviously there would be more pieces but they could work something out.
It's never going to work when you have so many young players demanding top dollar. No one cares about the team any more. It's just about money
Yup; players are very selfish nowadays.It's back to me and me and myself of the 80's.
shows the leafs aren't putting enough emphasis in scouting on the players character. They need skilled players that want to win a cup, instead of the skilled players that want to make an extra couple millions a year. Drafting greedy players over cup hungry players has hurt the leafs in this rebuild
@@aikhis You could be right.Scouts need to see how involved their parents are.Obviously parents are getting involved big time in contract negotiations making the ordeal very emotional for all.This is not turning out good.We all know what happens when parents get too involved ask Eric Lindros and Nylander's parents yikes.
@@johnb1877 why would someone take less than they're worth? Marner knows someone will pay him what hes asking so why take less? Would you take a pay cut at your job?
@@aikhis it shows that the leafs drafted great players. Almost very team that missed out on the chance to draft Rielly,marner,nylander and Matthew's are kicking themselves.
Yeah typically I like high event games, this game has been very low event.
Trade Kadri for Bozak.
Bozak could be a great 3rd line center.
He’s a cup champion now. Im sure he would be able to really show the young guys. Give some time and I really think Bozak would be a great fit for the leafs.... ;)
I hope your joking Blowsack for Kadri??? Worst trade in history of the organization if that happened
@@jamessmart7284 it was a joke lol. But Kadri for Gunnarson maybe?
....also a joke
Dubas saying we can and we will when talking about the three amigos was a huge mistake. Made a rod for his own back.
I knew it as soon as I heard it. All you have to do is look at the teams salary cap and then evaluate their strengths and weaknesses, with the d issues they cant pay all those guys. Thry banked heavy on selling them all on discounts, but there is no reason to these days. You have on avg 2 to 5 years to make some money the rest who play longer are lucky
NHL needs someone like you guys
How did having a right hand shot and left hand shot on defense become a babcock thing?? Pretty sure its called a hockey thing since the beginning of time...
Yeah but Babcock is more stubborn with it than some coaches
Because apparently it was only once Babcock went to Toronto that this revelation was made! You know the rest of us who dont live in the so called "Hockey Universe" are so blessed to have the TSNs of the world to fill us with knowledge.
O-Dog's best contributions were him saying he loves terms. what a goof lol
TrAvi5link Guy is a clown
Johnny Canuck my dog knows more about hockey than that idiot.
You guys are all wrong and have been wrong about Nylander. His 6.9 Mil contract is going to be a steal and bargain as I said this months ago. Look at players that are already getting 7 mil per year contracts and they are 50 point players. Nylander is easily going to hit minimum 60 pts per year but more likely reach the 70-80 point range if they keep him with Matthews. Nylander's 6.9 million is a bargain because look how high the contracts are going up already and it's only been 6 months since Nylander's contract.
Remember when everyone said Nylander was a bad deal at 6.9? LOL. The leafs will sign Marne for between 10-12 million. They can do that. In that case, One or two of Kadri, Marleau, Brown, and Kapanen will have to be traded to sort out that D. It isn’t simplest but the leafs have some of the best cap management guys in the league.
Lol it was Babcock who started the right hand d thing and he pushed Holland to sell the farm to get one and even then Detroit get a couldn't get a good one Lidstrom played both sides. Guess players can't turn on thier off wing 😂😂😂
All these media outlets are in a big panic lol.
Dubas needs to call Matthews and Tavares and see if they can put pressure on Marner to stay.
Then leak the story to the media.
"Here's the thing I can't figure out and I think I know the answer." ........That makes a lot of sense.
It does if you're thinking out loud. These guys are just think tanks to keep you in the dark about what's actually going on behind the scenes.
This all started when the rookie GM threw that much money at Tavares. I guess rookie is as rookie does.
Other teams offered him more money
Yes, but they had the cap space and were not expecting to sign players like Mitch and Austin.
It's the Marleau and Zaitsev contracts by the veteran Lou that are the albatross contracts. 47 goals, Tavares earned his salary
@@gordonbgraham yes but you don't need him. You need good d players.
Viktor L No good D players were available
The raptors didnt win a thing until they made major changes
Yes, but success in basketball has a lot more to do with having 1 or 2 superstars than in hockey. Hockey is more of a crapshoot
The Leafs overpay all of their players. This will inevitably end badly for them. They'll probably overpay Marner and lose an underrated player like Kapanen.
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I gotta admit, your comment is actually funny... 🤣😂🤣
Leafs are still the Leafs. Signing big over priced contracts, signing away good people, and still not getting past the 1st round.
Only thing is that it almost always turns out well for thems that get moved/ traded ...look at Bozak !
Jeffsframe maybe they could make it past the Bruins if they found someone on defence who isn’t afraid to decapitate players like Marchand with a lariat when they enter the Leafs zone lmao
Nazem Kadri would be great in Ottawa.
I dont care who the leafs trade, if it helps make them better and it helps get them past the first round and on a cup run in the playoff then I say trade who ever it takes.
The Leafs have a lot of assets that can be traded for what they need.
Hey, I love the game of hockey! We are paying guys huge contracts that haven’t won anything. If there was ever a time the Leafs should have been a contender for the cup was last season. Those big dogs need to take a pay cut so that teams can afford to get the players they need to win. Crosby has been making under 10 million for years so that the owners can build a team around him and others. Oh, and they have won 3 cups while he’s been there.
It’s stupid to even contemplate moving the best cheapest contracts. Move the older like Marleau. Leafs have the defensemen on the Marlies. Let Sandin and Liljegren play whether they’re ready or not. It might be a bad year but it can’t be worse defensively. They score their way out anyways
Ray has hit the nail on the head!
top loading your first two lines only if you stay healthy all season which how often is that going to be for any team.
Bardown please
🎶 what they thought they had it wasn’t hard to handle 🎵
What is Phillip DeFranco doing working for TSN?!?!? (On The Left) lol
its a stretch
Don't sign John tavares when you need Nick hjarlmarson
Jack Makackov yup. Tavares was nice but they didn’t need him and they sped their rebuild up and they didn’t look far enough into the future as to what they really needed rather than what they wanted
Nonsense... If you can get a player like JT for no resources you do it.
+kilocide We'll see if they win a cup with that mentality.
dude that is a no brainer. If you can sign JT you sign JT. Trade a draft pick or prospect.
@@B2Roland dude..... trade him if you have to....... you don't pass up highly coveted free agents. Its ludicrous.
You all thought they were something. All toronto media. You sold it to your audience everyday. Don't back track now
Leaf fans
I am one of them..
All this talk youth speed.. Marner blah blah blah
Will over skill always wins
I agree, skill doesn't mean shit come April, May and June. Look at the Blues, heart and hard work. All the skill was gone after the first round.
Will Nylander has zero will
Dear writers, this show is not good at present. Hersay & conjecture to fill the living room with static noise wastes such potential of a great platform to really understand hockey. Break it down in order to explain the reasoning. Feraro is not the guy I'd talk to about TML MGMT & coaching strategy.
Wow didn’t know there were so many aspiring GMs in the comments!
So tired of Toronto media and fans complaining about the cap. The Leafs are the ones who got themselves in this mess stop blaming the cap. You went and got JT last year at 11 mil, they gave Zaitsev a dumb contract, the NHL didn't make you do this the Leafs did it so cry me a river.
EXACTLY!!! WELCOME TO THE PARTY.
Or Marleau six million.
Thomas - Lmao! I've followed hockey for a long time but I've only been talking to people online about it for the last three seasons. Being in the USA i didn't know why people complained about Leafs fans and Toronto media all the time. After last year with JT i completely understand now. I feel bad for non Leafs fans in Ontario lol.
@@aramondehasashi3324 | Yeah they are clueless😂🤣. They are like a kid a Christmas...they must have every player in the league😂. The Marleau contract is killing them😂🤣 and no GM is gonna take that dumbass contract off their books
😂🤣 The Toronto media and fan base fucking kill me😂🤣😂
@@Canadianbassist | yes!! That contract was so fucking stupid. Its like the front office cannot do the most basic math operations. How they couldn't see that their young players were due in 2019 i'll never no...seriously, what a stupid sigining.
Did Leaf fans fall out of love with Matthews already? I thought HE was the saviour.
Also everyone knows that the Leafs are bent over the table right now in regards to the cap. They know the Leafs need to move players so wont make it easy.
@@SnapIntoaSlimJim1 Auston? Is that you?
They need to make a couple bold moves like Raptors
Taylor Hall for Adam Larrsson.. that's a hockey trade.
I thought this was gonna be hockey talk, and then I discovered it was just Leafs talk.
Mmmmmmm Leafs is right in the title
The Leafs are to young and small . Look at St Louis that's a team full of hardened men who were ready to make a cup run . Toronto fans are dreaming if they think the Leafs are going to win the cup in the next 5 years . Win are lose the seats are full Toronto is a NHL farm team for up and coming players who are cup ready like Kessel and Bozak .
@Cameron Rose I read faces i took one look at the Blues team in November and said that looks like a team that could win the cup i was right . People laughed and look what happened . Leafs will be lucky to win the cup in the next 5 years if all goes well . I believe the Leafs will win the cup 2030 .
I like Holl and Rosen so Leafs defence looks fine. I say trade Brown and Kadri with Zaitsev for another good Dman, left or right. And I do like keeping Ennis on 4th line, Gauthier is fine with me, he is developing and played better and better last year. Give these guys a chance, the Goat must be really working out this summer, he is quite fast for a big guy, good on PK too, Brown though, he is just wasted space on any line, he has to be very lucky to score even though he gets primo shots all the time, biggest thing is though he doesn't move the puck well, he panics, dumps it in, just takes an easy long shot at net etc, basically those are all giveaways, don't know what happened to his offensive ability but his defence isn't anything special either, not worth over 1.5 and no place on a winning team for this deadend slug
This team has no plan going forward. Dubas is clearly out of his element. Does he understand what the cap is? Ownership only wants the money, not a winner.
This team is like the oilers, they don't care if they win, just sell ticket$ & mer¢h.
Money is coming in.why fix what isn't broken....
"They haven't won a thing and they're fighting against cap issues" ..... That pretty much sums up the Leafs.
What a couple of years ago looked like the makings of a potential dynasty team is being destroyed by what is nothing more than greed. Say what you will, "the players have the right" , "why should they leave money on the table", blah, blah, blah..... the ugly reality is that none of these kids give a fuck about the team and they sure as hell don't give a shit about the fans. If they did they all would have gotten together among themselves and figured out what they needed to do to make this a viable project. They're all going to be disgustingly wealthy, that they'll jeopardize the potential of this group to be marginally more wealthy is pathetic
Lmao maybe Nylander isn't in trade rumors because it would be stupid to trade a player like Nylander at the cap hit he's at when you can move other pieces to clear cap. Why does Toronto media want Nylander gone so much
Maybe because he's cancer and a no show in playoffs, only can score against poor performing teams
Right-handed defenders have been prized for decades, what is this guy talking about?
I think they're just getting at the fact that you don't put your third best left-handed defenceman on the third pairing for the second best righty if said lefty is the better player. They also mean don't think you're set just because you grabbed a right-handed guy. Think Ian White with Nick Lidstrom.
Trade Kadri, Marner and Nylander, If done right the Leafs are set for a long time. Try Marner and Kadri for NJ first over all.
Yeah because that's just what the leafs needed... Another centre (Jack Hughes)
Do a trade video
Leafs need some heart
Why does everyone think Nylander is going to be great just because he will play Matthews. Look at Edmonton. They have Draisatl and McDavid at center but the rest of the team cant put rhe puck in the net. Nobody wants Nylander because of his contract
Nylander is the big divider among Leafs fans. There are fans who want to powder and kiss his ass, and there are fans who want him traded for a bag of pucks (and a right shot d).
I hear cody franson wants back in the NHL hes a 6 foot 5 220lb puck moving right handed defenseman. Hes gonna drive a hard bargain. Easily gonna get 6 million because of his status lmfao
If the Leafs want a cup they will trade the super stars and build a team full of full grown men who can take and give a hit like St Louis . They say the game is changing but St Louis just used the trap and size and grit to win a cup .
LOL
Didn’t the leafs just give up a first round pick to get rid of Marleau? 😂😂😂 Did I read that incorrectly?
Yes that shows how competent (or otherwise) their management is. All the best payers in the league have been first round picks. You build a great team with first round picks. Dumb management will trade them away.
Right shot defenceman? Leafs have given up Polak, Carrick, Zaitsev and Ozhaganov. Quality matters! The best defence corps ever was Robinson, Lapointe, Savard and Langway - all left shots.
You media talking heads are funny. Going around and around and around and around with hypotheticals and this team has this guy who scored this many making this much. Worthless.
Flat out, Toronto mismanaged their dollars and invested 41% of the current cap into 3 players (presuming Marner signs for $11m). And they're all forwards. In 4 years having 3 $11m guys may not be as big a deal once league revenue inevitably goes up with Seattle joining the league, a new CBA being negotiated, and the new league TV deal that's forthcoming, but for now the front office has fucked the team hard. Shit, Toronto has almost as much invested in Matthews @ $11.634m as they do in the 5 Dmen they have signed right now ($15.04m). What kind of sense does that make for an NHL team that has Stanley Cup aspirations? And yet somehow in the 14:20 I watched of this video, none 1 person mentions this.
Fucking embarrassing!
Hayes just signed a $7.14M for 7 years and you’re out here clowning yourself complaining about Nylander. SMFH.
@@ItzSnacc you are clown not to acknowledge that Nylander deal set this ridiculousness into motion
Tony Caniggia look at Kevin Hayes’ contract and then tell me Nylander deserves less money than him. The plug go 7/$7.14M, that makes Nylander look like nothing.
@@ItzSnacc Nylander started this overpaying trend not Hayes. Get your timeline straight.
Bozak won a cup! Leafs are cursed!
And Gunnerson
Man I was happy for Bozie when I saw him hoist that cup!!!
Yeah had nothing to do with oreily. Bozak carried the team
Leafs, welcome to cap hell. Good luck on balancing your team. Crazy GM. 11 million for you. 11.6 million for 60 pt guy. Ohh, sorry Mitch we can’t pay you 11 mil coz you only scored 94 pts. What f@@ked up GM.
Buddy you need to calm down
11M for a 47 goal scorer, 11.6 for a guy thats going to be a future top 5 player how stupid.
Deep Bodalia yeah Dubas is just soooooo stupid...
@@deepbodalia1063 what are you... a gypsy? How do you know a perennial 65 ish point guy is the future? Are you in a Delorean right now? One day Matthews may deserve 11 mil but to get that contract from me he should have produced like 11 mil if he wanted 11 mil
I would rather see Nylander traded before Kappy!!
The leafs iconic
Our staff iconic
Dubas ...iconic
Our rooster iconic
The fan base iconic. Bye
We gon be alright 2019-2020 season will be fun. Hope the deals get made and they remain great
Dubas must unload the shred now..... now. ........nowwwww
Why are players that get 40-50 points getting 6-7 million dollars. Stupid! 50 point players should get no more than 6 million.
Leafs MAY still win Cup, may still win multiple cups. But for me they were cant miss untill they lost Lamorillo. Add losing Mark Hunter on top of that, an inexperienced Kyle Dubas, and youre potentially snatching failure from the jaws of destiny.
I don't get their confusion. Dubas outright told him: as long as I'm here, you won't be traded. Dubas isn't answering the phone on any Nylander deal.
Arthur Montiel that’s stupid move because even The Great One Gretzky was traded
That's not why he's not being shopped, he's not being shopped because he's a great player and we want to keep him. Point blank. Had an off year because of coming in late. Will be a 70 point guy next season.
Lord Lucifer’s Demon Army Level 9 you're an idiot go home you're drunk
Arthur Montiel you wouldn’t be doing your job if you didn’t at least listen
Problem solved fire Dubus
The Leafs aren't winning a Cup with the team built this way. Should have sold off Nylander when they had the chance for a defenseman.
I agree. They're soft. Look at the Stanley Cup finalist rosters. who's the most physical player in the Leafs?
Do you think we lost to boston because we were soft?
@@soaringbullet partly
soaringbullet I think so. Ima die hard leaf fan too, but after game two they were scared shitless lol bawston really flexed their muscle that game and threw the leafs off.
Cameron Rose I’ve seen multiple guys shy away from the corner more den a few times, I remember this well because I remember getting real pissed off by it and making a snap About it lol and chara is 40+ years old I expect the tiny speedster guys to have an advantage on that grandpa lol that’s why Kadri took a suspension for an easy way out loljk That was a gutsy move by Kadri tho.
Kadri WILL BE TRADED! Book it!
Lol..
I think it be funny if a player that already rich as fuck makes a super shit deal for giggles and fucks lol like 2 years at 1.9 lol
Following the Raptors blueprint. Make a risky trade, you never know
Wrong sport friend. Such trades could kill hockey teams
Lol love watching the leafs and their media puppets squirm.
Dominic Goss probably because you’re a loser
Its a no brainer, Kadri, Nylander, Gardiner, Marleu, Zaitsvev and Mike Backock need to be gone before next season
Replace by 4 guys making the minimum and a defenseman who is minus 65 in the last 4 years.
C'mon guys NHL is run by people in their dream world
Nylander is overrated needs to be traded
Calm down
He is not. He will be a point per game player.
sign mitch, keep kappo, trade nylander.
TSN Toronto Sports Network.....buncha regional hacks
NHL is the worst. They make it so hard to be a fan.
What? Didnt you think the officiating in the playoffs was good??
You're not a fan
Nylander name is not in just because Dubas hard to admit his mistake and snowball rolling. imho.
trade zaitsev, gardner, nylander, marleau asap...get a couple ron hainsy's/jake gardner's on d, and pay marner. and we're cooking. leafs need a bit more old time hockey/grit to start winning in the playoffs/win the cup.
and they better not...they better NOT get rid of marner/kappenen/brown (and keep nylander) - they better NOT fucking do that !!!
Jake is trash
@Cameron Rose hence the point c.rose...get rid of nylander, marleau, zaitsev and gardner, and youll have $$ to pay marner !!! and also get a couple more good quality/gritty players, that the leafs desperatly need . itll be a travesty if they keep nylander at 6.9m/yr, marleau 6.25/yr, zaitsev 4.5m/yr, and get rid of marner and say kappenen and/or brown. so ill re-iterate - they better NOT fucking do that !!! ill take marner, kappenen and brow over nylander, marleau, and zaitsev any day of the week.
The Toronto media needs to reevaluate who/what they are!
Like a bunch of Betty's at the hair salon with their heads stuck in the dryers.
Ohh now you realize they Aren’t good enough lmao??
Brandon only St. Louis was good enough this year
If the Maple Laughs hadn't gone all in on Tavares they'd still have a team
Love to lose classic leafs
I’m 700,000$ Anthony cererilli esque option for the leafs. Call me Dubas
Marner gets offer sheet from Colorado June 26th 5 pm Leafs will not be able to match.
If it's a number that the Leafs can not match, it will come along with 4 first round picks and tons of cap space. Not a bad deal
Joe Blythe meh ur losing Mitch Marner arguably the best player on the team
@@jordan-sp4db and getting 4 first round picks to go with the 4 first round picks they already have over the next 4 years, meaning they can flip half those 1st round picks to address needs on D while picking up a couple of forwards who can sustain a forecheck...while still having 4 first round picks to keep the cupboard stalked with young talent coming up. All for one player. I hope someone does offer sheet Marner
@@jordan-sp4db True, but if you look at just about any team in the league, and who their 4 most recent 1st round picks, it's hard to find very many that wouldn't we at least worth Mitch Marner, or any other player in the league for that matter. I love Marner, but if it came between getting 4 first round picks and having the cap space to sign a big name UFA or 2, or matching an offer sheet for Mitch Marner at, say $11 million AAV, it would be tough to turn down the draft picks, especially when the team has another 2 or 3 star forwards
@@JoeBlythe Leafs are cup contenders now picks are useless.We need players now developing them those days are over.Leafs can afford $10.5 million over that and Dubas won't be able to match.
Unless we trade Nylander for Pesce or Faulk from Carolina.
My advice to Dubas is to get this Marner negotiation in the media it has not worked behind closed doors so far.Dubas dropped the first bomb yesterday.NHL GM's are calling Dubas bluff.
I expect a few more cough cough leaks from the Leafs this weekend.
But Dubas made a good point.Other teams with RFA players have not made any moves yet over cap issues so this tells me when it starts to roll one deal there will be a dynamo effect.
Can Jeff O'Neill once, not act like he's playing poker?? Have a facial expression.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
I’m 700,000$ Anthony cererilli option for the leafs. Call me Dubas
Do not trade kadri... he is our only player who has true grit. He is a play off guy and he does not quit on you like a nylander does. Let's be honest unload nylander and his fat contract
Nylander phhhhhhhh
IF THE LEAFS TRADE KADRI.......LEAFS DO NOT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.
Stop talking out of your ass
@TTCGamer Kadri isnt that dumb to go ahead and get himself suspended for a third time...if he is then he could say bye bye that same day. but you cant give away a 30-goal scorer @ 4.5mill a year.
Yes he had an off year but then again....he became a 3rd line center without the same roles as the previous years.
I think he should be awarded another year, hes proven himself to change in the past. Besides...he is the oldest leaf (since 2009)
They will make the playoffs without him but will not go far without him.
Gretzky shot left enough said!
Black Label I also shoot left and I play university rec league
I shoot left and only play street hockey
Loser team that's going nowhere.. All about the Raptors...real winners!
at least they were.
Nothing new about the cap, a simple google search told me that June 21st, 2018 the NHL said the cap would be $79.5M
Grinders, big defense - give up the speed and some talent for this and you will win. They need to do what the Raptors did, make a change to the culture and identity of this team.
His might be the worst take I've ever seen.
@@ninjabrett17 Not an argument.
@@BillC-64 that's because your comment is so wrong and out of touch with how today's game is played, it doesnt deserve an argument. I would bet everything I own that you are over the age of 40
@@ninjabrett17 Still not an argument.
@@BillC-64 are you over 40?
Hiya this joe in Toronto. ..?.what the fuck is dubas doing. This guy is not ready. He can't make a trade, he has no clue how to sign players. I am a self made millionaire and dubas talks like the kind of guy who has made me rich. Dubas is not ready for leafs g.m.
Defense before offense, folks
It's the Leafs...who cares.
Correction my friend, it’s the laughs who cares? You’re welcome.
@@Pistol1783 lol I stand corrected!