Kyle Kulinski Is Wrong About Kamala's Campaign
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Liz Cheney recently has been campaigning for Kamala Harris for the 2024 presidential contest against Donald Trump and some folks on the left are quite upset about this. Kyle Kulinski shares his opinion which I break down in this video.
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Would love to have you on Krystal Kyle & Friends to discuss our disagreement!
Same here. This issue certainly has its pros and cons. I think I agree with you Kyle, in that she is very unpopular. However Republicans might see this as a plus. Proof will be in the pudding though.
The big man himself has come to request a duel! Hutch! Get your Yu-Gi-Oh deck ready!
kulynsky is now a softie, (a bitch if you prefer )
pay attention to NIck Fuentes instead, he is gonna dominate in the next couple of years, capturing people of both sides everyday.
Looking forward to this
This is the best thing I've heard all day. Would love to hear these 2 discuss Israel, Ukraine, or honestly anything that doesn't follow the corporate dem narrative....
I like a lot of what you're doing here, but Kyle Kulinski is supporting Kamala Harris. This commentary made it sound as if Kulinski is determined to deny her support. He regards Donald Trump as an existential threat, making Harris a given.
Obligatory reminder that Reagan not only failed to cut the deficit but also raised taxes more than he ever lowered them.
Leeja Miller: "Reagan ruined everything" shirts.
I'm not sure either one of those are true. Was the top marginal income tax rate lower in 1988 than in 1981? On year to year budget deficits, I'd have to check each year.
AND he started that "trickle down" BS that stopped workers' wages from going up for decades.
@@presence5426Reagan crushed unions. From the end of WW2 until Reagan, national union activity was fairly constant. After his presidency, unionized strikes or national activity had dropped to around 1/3 of pre Reagan numbers, never to recover. The beginning of almost a half century of wage stagnation, and widening wealth disparity .
@JordanGurney
Hottest lawyer around! Although the Legal Eagle may be even hotter 🤔
Campaigning with Liz Cheney probably wont make her lose that many leftist votes but it will definitely lessen the enthusiasm which is just as important.
Harris did not have to say she was honored to have Dick Cheneys endorsement. She could have just said great to hear he agrees trump should not win.
But on the same token... for the Cheneys, who are so far on the other side of the political spectrum, to endorse Kamala Harris is monumental. When someone u once considered ur adversary to join u in battle to conquer an even greater adversary & the greatest threat to US democracy since the Civil War, it is absolutely an honor. And it's appropriate to say that. This is what this moment calls for... a leader who can reunite as much of the nation as possible, reunite as many different political factions as possible & build a consensus so big, made up of Americans from all corners, that it's like nothing we've ever seen before.
@TruthAndTattoos nah dick Cheney is disgusting. Thanks for voting against trump but he should be in prison for war crimes.
@@TruthAndTattoos it's never an honor to be endorsed by a war criminal.
@@FinchamJace Has he been indicted & prosecuted for war crimes? U might have a strong opinion about the man, but until he's actually convicted of war crimes, that's only YOUR opinion. The Cheneys are well respected by millions of conservative voters. And fortunately, unlike you, Vice President Harris is a leader who recognizes that this moment calls for unifying as much of the nation as possible, despite our disagreements, personal opinions or policy differences. Because if we lose our democracy to Trump, none of those things will even matter anymore.
@@FinchamJace Except he's not a war criminal. Saddam was.
Liz Cheney? she is a warmonger.
As opposed to Trump who literally showed his Iran invasion plans to Kid Rock. I don't think you're grasping the implications. This isnt about Liz supporting democrat policy. It's about getting Trump the hell out.
More like good on national security and not some pandering isolationist.
I honestly think that Kyle has grown so much as a leftie that he wouldn’t even agree with the force the vote proposal if it were talked about today. He’s become more like Vaush and Pakman in terms of their strategic thinking of making gains. But he’s my favorite political commentator because he gives credit where it’s due and criticizes when it’s due, so his coverage is pretty fair even if I disagree with his takes sometimes. It’s nice to follow a channel that isn’t purely partisan
ew "he's become more like Vaush" wtf is wrong with your judgement of character?
@@kingkarlito in terms of their strategic thinking and making political gains, not his opinion on horses
@@kingkarlito Vaush is superior to most left channels, he might be little weird off camera, but he's right on 99% of issues. Let's just say... I'd rather have people like Vaush than pro-Israel g*n*side deniers like Tim Miller or David Pakman.
@Parmetheus PSA: Vaush is the guy who has said he doesn't care about lying as long as it's in service of his political goals. Not a good role model or someone to hold up as a great strategic thinker, in fact, he's a grubby opportunist with severely warped morals 😅
Vaush disgusting
1) no candidate can control who endorses them.
2) getting an endorsement from ones political opposite is actually quite an accomplishment.
People saying that this means Harris agrees with either Cheney are just idiots.
@@avishevin1976 bruh....again its Cheney, he literally caused the US into a decades long war with the wrong country and had the US give NATO wrong info on WMD's to join in. Literally destabilized the middle east region and cost trillions of dollars just for the terrorist group to still run the country.
That man (liz has her own baggage as she voted for a majority for Trump's policies) is a stain on this country's history and he should be shut out of any politics as far as any human should be concerned. Ffs he shot someone claiming it was an animal
Yeah but you don’t have to flex it. She could have acknowledged it but not let her join the campaign trail.
You can also respectfully decline it because it goes against your values. Even people like Charlie Kirk for instance had enough instincts to publicly reject groypers for instance.
@@sgs8747 exactly!! 💯
@@sgs8747
That they disagree on policy is a given, but what values do they disagree on? Are those disagreements so wide that it is bad for Harris to be seen with her?
@@avishevin3353 My beef is mainly with Dick, whom yes I’d say should be shunned for the innocents killed. Liz did vote heavily with Trump but not as toxic.
Still, it does send the wrong message when Kamala largely shuns the uncommited and pro-Palestine folks, but brings Liz on stage.
They Cheneys have been very clear that they don't endorse Harris' policies, but they see Trump is that great of a threat. Not much of an endorsement! As far as Harris' unpopularity, she is both not far-left or far-right, I'm far-left, am I excited about Harris, no. Am I terrified about Trump, YES! A poll with a binary choice only answers the single question asked, and doesn't reveal why.
Case in point. All the leftists that said they would vote for her if she chose Tim Waltz as running mate only to back track when she actually did it
That doesn't have to do with anything other than that she's running a crappy campaign and their advisors are clamping down on Walz and not letting him be himself. Their advisor told them to stop saying "we're not going back" and stop calling the Republicans "weird" when clearly those slogans are popular. Walz was doing amazing on news interviews before he was picked and right after. Suddenly he stopped appearing on shows, and someone chopped his balls off before the debates. What happened to him? He was a different person.
Also, if you keep repeating "Israel has a right to defend itself" and "we have to get a ceasefire deal, we've been working around the clock" when clearly that's not happening, it's really disappointing and deflating to those who were hoping she'd be different than Biden, but unfortunately, she is just a younger version of him. And she'll probably end up firing the one asset of the Biden administration: Lina Kahn.
You're implying we backed out because she made the decision?? Tim Walz is still Tim Walz...and awesome
Her policies became more right wing after the convention and it put a bad taste in our mouths.....and I think the Polls are reflecting that too (?)
@@SaiyanCookie what do u think the biggest thing losing leftist rn that Biden effed up as well in? I do t need to give hints bc its still ongoing and no matter how many times Biden or Harris say ceasefire (that was effing months ago) it doesn't change that we are still sending weapons and soon sending ppl bc Israel wants smoke with Iran
@@M85619what right wing policies?
@@KingBedlam immigration policies, no new policies for police, no new green policies and Biden has allowed more still sites when we need less
I watch a lot of Kyle Kulinski, David Pakman, Destiny, Vaush, and others. I think you’re a level-headed voice that is much needed in the online left.
Those are exactly the guys I listen too, and also The Majority Report. I just discovered Hutch and I’m liking what I’m hearing so far :)
That's a good array of people to listen to to try maintain a balanced left/lib/socdem perspective. I also listen to President Sunday for a more anarchist/Marxist perspective then I try to listen to Shapiro and Sitch & Adam to know what the right wingers are talking about.
@@jacobgsutton how are you still sane after president sunday?
@@lampad4549 Lol he’s pretty much a 10x smarter version of Vaush on politics. I don’t agree with him on everything and I can barley understand half the nerd shit he talks about, but he’s a good counter balance to both libs like Destiny and the populist surface level politics of Kulinski.
I think he'd take offense to being compared to and being grouped together with Vaush lol.
OK, so i have to point out on the whole 'force the vote' issue, Kyle was on board with that idea in the very beginning, but backed off of it shortly afterwards cause he saw the writing on the wall. He wasn't with the Dore's and the Joy Gray's who took it all the way. He backed out pretty early cause he actually knows what he's talking about.
I think youre misunderstanding Kyle here, in that he prioritises his values and ethics over political maneuvering.
From a pragmatic perspective youre right, but he comes from a point of staying consistent and true to yourself, doing what is right rather than what is effective
I completely agree with everything you said. The fact that the Cheney's are not only voting for a Democrat, but out campaigning for one I think makes a point to a lot of moderates and old school conservatives that the Republican Party under Trump is so far gone that it would be better for like-minded old school conservatives to vote for Kamala. Having the Cheney's out campaigning for you is another way of saying that it's gotten so insanely bad on the other side that even people who formerly were held up as the opposition are now with us.
Plus yeah, like you say, these online extremely leftists like Brianna Joy Gray have zero intention of ever voting for Kamala. They only want to virtue signal and complain. They don't care about securing material gains at all. Their minds are poisoned into thinking both sides are equally evil or at least both so evil that you can't justify voting for either one. In their mind, anyone a bit less than perfect in their eyes is irredeemably bad and not worth voting for. There is no point in pouring resourcing into trying to change their minds. Trying to go for moderates who may prefer Trump on certain policies like economic and tax policies but who can't stand his anti-democratic rhetoric and actions is much more likely to bear fruit. I actually have family members who are exactly this type of voter. I have family members who are much more Mitt Romney/Adam Kinzinger/John Kasich types, but will be voting for Harris because they think Trump is an authoritarian who has no knowledge of foreign policy. These are the types of voters that will hold their nose and vote for a Democrat this time and aren't as unreasonable as the far left is acting right now.
Why do you say them about him and merge him with BJG as they are the same person? The two of them have plenty of disagreements.
It's also possible to disagree with political tactics without going into "them" and just tell your point of view.
BOTH SIDES ARE EQUALLY EVIL. BIDEN/HARRIS are a bloody disaster. This is not my father's Democrat Party. So you are right. I'm not likely to cast a vote for this AIPAC infested bunch. And I was a Dem for 50 years. I really dislike Harris and I've never hated a Dem president until Biden. He's a monster. (And I voted for him) This has become the RINO party. It sure doesn't feel like my party anymore. And yes, turned of by the Cheneys. O hate this choice. I think I'll go with Stein to support Palestine.
Your wrong about moving the goal post. RINOS are moving our party to the right.
@@rezrunnercl Begone Bot
Nah, having the cheneys endorsing someone without disavowing there words is such career s-word. They are toxic to campaigns and anyone with any sense of morality or compassion should still be praying for Dick's demise for the shiii he pulled just like limbaugh and kissinger
No, you can reach people left of liberal. I’m left of liberal and I’m willing to bite the bullet and vote for kamala. You libs made this mistake once before these past 4 years trying to ‘reach across the isle’ to conservatives at your own expense…and now you wanna do it again? They do the most ‘both sides’ing that you’re this ass mad about btw so good luck 🤞🏼
Love having your voice around man, we need normal, sane, left leaning people out there. It’s a boring position to have but one worth fighting for
“We need the same old tired opinions we can hear all over mainstream media that are always wrong in the end”
@@maxsthoughts6204 I much prefer normal adults having normal adult opinions to Hamas/hezbollah good on the far left and hitler/putin good on the far right. That’s silly edgy stuff for teenagers to play pretend with, but when things have to get done, I prefer boring slow moving changes guided by grown ups, and we don’t get enough of that commentary on TH-cam since it doesn’t get as many clicks.
@@Acmarine777...what far leftists are u watching that promote hamas instead of going to the history of what they are and why they were formed? Also that slow politics is basically why america is what it is....our politicians gave standing ovations (plural) to netanyahu and the speaker called him "your excellency".
Our planet is heating up and barely any politician wants to do squat bc they still get paid from their lobbies and not to mention most of them still trade stocks and making money while we deal with there " slow politics"
@@torchbearer2175 In regards to your first question, take a tour around your nearest large university.
@@derekrequiem4359 I've been around Columbia kid, and they weren't chanting support hamas
Bernie supports Kamala, let him campaign among undecided bros.
What an empty gesture…..
93% voting record with Trump 😒
Also her position on abortions. Yikes! Says women have late term abortions.
what a dumb, completely impotent critique to make after a political party's primary voting has ended.
Q: "do you like yellow or green?"
A: "shades of yellow can look similar to green, which i dislike, so i also dislike yellow"
this isn't a multiple choice or essay question, why are you scribbling all over your scantron?
america = bad progressives are really working hard to prove the party was wise to exclude uncommitted supporters from the dnc. completely proving that you have zero ability to effect the results of the election, political genius.
@@margaretcox4456 What are you talking about?
@@nik4456 She was saying that infanticide was happening
@@margaretcox4456 who was?
It's the wider message that matters....America 🇺🇸⚖️ not trump
Glad its going well Hutch! Keep at it, best of luck to your continuing journey
Hell we need all the votes we can get THIS year
As someone who lives in a county that was republican since the civil war in pennsylvania and now is switching democrat because of Moderate Republicans. I'm here to tell you that these anti MAGA republican endorsements matter! My county has an extreme high turnout rate!
@@stephenpierce2242 Yea...but its cheney, freaking cheney. Basically allying with evil so idiots don't vote for the narcissistic goof
But Dick Cheney???
"Shut up War Monger"
..conversation over
You could take the position that if someone like Cheney sees Trump as extremely dangerous…. That must say something. He’s more making a statement against Trump other republicans may listen to.
@@Soapgirl64 ur assessment couldn't be more wrong 🤦♂️
Channels like this and Kyle's actually give me hope in our population in America.
Eh, this argument would make sense if the Cheney's had actual popularity. They don't, liz got crushed the last time she showed up.
If it was a popular govenor from the republican party, then your argument might make sense.
It’s not her specifically, it’s the narrative of her support
Yeah this less about Liz Cheney and more about why she is supporting Kamala.
As a left winger, what I noticed a lot of other lefties mess up on is that they confuse messaging that speaks to them with messaging that speaks to the average American. Its important to not fall into the trap of thinking that what we as leftists want in terms of messaging and policy is automatically popular and that a national campaign should be run to appeal solely to us. What is popular with people like me and Kyle Kulinsky is pretty different from the beliefs of the average American voter.
Hutch I disagree with your framing here: we're not scared of Liz Cheney's inclusion, and anyone is welcome to endorse, but you do not have to have them on stage and PRAISE a war criminal for "standing up for democracy" just because he likes you. It honestly reminds me of trump: like me and i praise you. Nothing about what Dick Cheney did in office was democratic. But for us, it speaks to a larger symptom of capitulation to the right that we find unnecessary. You disagree that it is, but that's our POV - that there is a broad base of support on the left being left in the cold in favor of support for a genocide, capitulation to the right on the border issue, and inclusion of people like CBP guards and tech billionaires *on stage* at the DNC while a Palestinian-American who wanted to endorse her was not allowed to speak. It doesn't feel like a democratic party anymore, it feels like Republicans without MAGA.
Exactly! We don't need to lick the Cheney's boots. Kyle even said it's fine to accept the endorsement but don't make it out to be this great beautiful thing and for the love of God don't do events with Liz Cheney.
Wish I could like this comment a million times
The dnc are basically moderates, you'll rarely find a leftist in there party. I mean ffs they endorsed menedez and that guy already had investigations on him before the one that took him out came to light
I think to save democracy, Kamala Harris needs to unify as much of the nation as humanly possible. That is what it's about. And honestly, in this moment, it's the right choice. Trump divided us. To defeat Trump we must unify as many Americans from as many political factions as possible. Moderate Republicans are a devoted voting block so I back her in this attempt 100%. Her pick of Tim Walz as VP was her way to communicate to us that she's not actually moving right. She's only doing what's called for in the moment... unifying a divided nation.
On the point of progressives upset that Kamala isn't going far enough left, here's where I stand:
I also live and vote in California, possibly THE safest blue state in the country. Knowing that, I voted Howie Hawkins in 2020 (Green Party). Because I was disgusted by how the establishment neoliberal democrats rallied around Joe Biden in the primary, in a blatantly transparent "Anyone but Bernie Sanders" move. And I was just in general displeased with their candidate BEING a status quo establishment neoliberal.
But here's the thing: I was very mindful about what message I was trying to send with my vote. Which in 2020 was "The less of a lock California becomes for the Democrats, the (hopefully) more likely they'll realize they need to come further left or lose their base."
But in 2024, I fully intend to vote Kamala Harris. By picking Tim Walz as her VP and supporting what he accomplished in Minnesota, supporting anti-price gouging policies, and supporting higher child tax credits, she has shown me that she is a noticeable step to the left of Biden. Would she have been my first choice to replace Biden? Absolutely not. Has she come far enough left to meet me where I personally stand on policy? Far from it.
But I am going to vote for her, because the message of my vote this year is "I like that she's a step further left. DO THAT MORE, PLEASE."
(Side note: If you or anyone you know ever considers not voting because they don't like either the Democrats or Republicans, encourage them to at least vote third party. Neither party will care about people not voting, because they think you don't care. Both parties will notice if millions vote third party, and will consider what they can do to get your vote next time.)
Well said
Being anti-war isn't left or right
If you would withhold your vote and risk democracy dismantling because LC is voting democrat in order to save democracy, then you would support authoritarianism.
Jesus. Hutch, you are really taking the time to over extend yourself and speak on things you don’t understand.
Happy to see a voice of reason on Twitch.
For real. Twitch has been dominated by a very extreme, toxic section of the left for so long. Definitely needs more reasonable voices.
Kyle's latest appearance on The Vanguard wasn't too bad. He plainly stated the differences between Trump and Kamala and it seems clear he is endorsing Kamala.
this is the same kind of argument Chucky Schumer was making. “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin. " that worked out well, didn't it
They wouldnt move the goal post if Kamala said she'd do the exact things theyre wanting, they'd say shes lying. Because theyve already done it
Ps big props for making the content switch!! Bold move, and arguably more IMPACTFUL than the folks who start from scratch because you're speaking to an audience that might not have already been exposed to this sort of political streaming world
Liz Cheney isn't her father. But even if she was, we don't have the luxury of batting away a helping hand right now.
Genuinely my favorite non gaming youtuber, having only just discovered you about a week ago. As a fellow Nor Cal nerd, we align on just about everything and have a frickton in common, and it's been a breath of fresh air. Plus you're hilarious. Keep it up man, and stay hungry, you're killing it.
Love the new direction! Totally agree with your analysis, right now is the time to have the tent be as big as we can to rebuke Trump and his remaining followers
Onward and upwards
I’m pitching my tent for hutch!
The gaming streamer to political streamer pipeline is an odd one, new subscriber content has been good!
Unfortunately it often goes down the shitter all the way to the far-right.
@@worduser899 why is that?
I'm glad Kyle finally said what needed to be said about Rogan, at least.
I'm more upset about Kamala saying she will have a Republican in her cabinet. I don't think alienating your base for an extremely small potential vote is a good strategy and we already saw Trump fail at this in recent months when his anti abortion base lost their shit when he was asked about a 6 week abortion ban in Florida where he said it needs to be longer. I saw so many people threatening to abstain their vote.
She's talking about making Kinzinger Sec of Veteran's Affairs or whatever it'll be fine.
Reaching across the aisle isn’t a bad thing, especially in these crazy divided times. If that “alienates” the base enough to not vote for her they were never her base to begin with.
@@hutch He wouldn't be better than a Democrat. If anything good happens for Veterans under her administration Republicans can just take credit for it. There really isn't a benefit to her picking a Republican.
@@tornadre Reaching across the aisle on a bill is one thing, mixing cabinets is another. Republican lite is not the way to go.
I see where you are coming from, but I disagree. I think saying she would make space for moderate republicans is good, as long as it is very minor positions and doesn't involve major changes to appeal to them. It shows that there is a way out of MAGA for moderate republicans, which I think is pretty needed.
You called the war in Iraq a "foreign policy blunder" like innocent Iraqi lives were pieces on a chess board. grow a heart
Is this a joke?
This might be a good analysis except for what you say at 8:35 about how the Cheney endorsements are not turning anyone away.
For plenty of anti-war lefties who are on the fence about casting a lesser-evil harm reduction vote for Harris, something like this might be the thing that tips them toward No.
Meanwhile, you've done a poor job of explaining how/why there are large numbers of Republicans whose votes might be tipped toward Harris the other way, and specifically tipped by the Cheney endorsements. As in, the Cheneys specifically, as opposed to any other prominent anti-Trump Republicans who could be up there on stage with Harris
I liked your political talks on pka. Good to see you working on this.
Kyle is usually right, except when he agrees with Krystal lol
Yooooo hutch😂😂😂 so awesome to see you still around bro, i remember watching you playing mw2 like 14 years ago🤣. Awesome transition, you do you man. Kyle can be naive at times but he's still by far my favourite political pundit. Guy is absolutely true to his beliefs and I agree with him about 85% of the time
On the Liz Cheney effect: how would you measure the % of Lefties who are turned off, vs. the % of Repugs who are turned on? We know how many Repugs flipped in 2020 & went for Biden: less than 5%.
I agree with this for the most part. The one thing I completely disagree on is her failure to court Muslim American voters, who make up a significant portion of the Democratic base, especially in a swing state like Michigan. This is a chunk of solidly blue voters that will only be more likely to stay home with Kamala touting a Cheney endorsement. So, while I don't necessarily think the solution is to ignore the Cheney endorsement, she clearly needs to do more to distance herself from Biden's policy around Gaza. This is easily her campaign's biggest mistake thus far imo
And when the democrats shift even further to the right to keep these voters itll be the same song and dance
I'm a gen X who leans progressive. And, I also want the chance to be able to vote for someone leaning more progressive in the future. So, I am voting for Kamala.
Exciting to see Kyle respond! Looking forward to that conversation.
I’ve been subbed since you were with machinima, and I’m enjoying the new content!
It’s just weird that the person the celebrated Roe v Wade getting overturned is now supporting the candidate that wants to reimplement it
It’s not weird if you grant that protecting our very democracy takes priority over any policy.
"teaming up with a Cheney" is soooo disingenuous. He is not there to impact any policy decisions. He is only there to show that old school republicans don't agree and won't agree with Trump.
She heaped praise onto a war criminal who lied to all of us to line his pockets. That wasn't necessary. While I think the "if Dick Cheney is backing you," argument that Tulsi and Jimmy Dore etc push is disingenuous, I don't think "teamed up with" is an unreasonable position, much less disingenuous.
Spot on with moving the goal posts. My leftist friends have been moving the goal post on this election way before the Gaza war.
I listen to Kyle everyday and agree with him a lot. I dont share his concern about the Harris campaign.
As someone who has been watching you from the MW2 days and got more and more involved with politics myself as time went on, I'm glad to have seen you make this transition to politics as well. Happy for you that the reception to your new youtube content has been good. Keep it up Hutch!
Now hes lying about this woman
I agree. Kyle misses on the strategic pragmatism sometimes. I don't think the Cheney endorsements will negatively impact her. That said, I really really wish she would go a little more left on Gaza/Israel however. It's such a shame what's happened there.
@@Angelo2Death She loses leftist votes on the off chance any skeletal voters who still like dick Cheney will support kamala
The idea of lusting after a perfect leader to check all boxes of “doing the right thing” and paving a path forward for humanity is one of the most difficult and actually abstract ideas in human culture. The Book Dune Messiah, which is also the sequel to the book “Dune” that was adapted into two movies these past few years, captures this idea perfectly.
Nervous? I dunno, you're kinda nailin it, bro.
Totally agree with you. I like Kyle's concepts but i think sometimes its too idealistic and exclude other moderate democrats ' opinions. Embracing both sides should be the better strategy.
kamala people don't wanna hear what Trump has done in the past. People wanna hear what you wanna do to make their life better.
You would have to be stupid to think the point of FTV was to pass M4A… it was to actually get people on record
I think what this guy said in this video is spot on.
Hutch is hungry to succeed on TH-cam! Good to hear buddy :)
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Thank you for your pragmatism👍🏿. I’m new to your channel and look forward to each of your videos. I subscribed to Kyle’s channel for a hot second. He and his wife Krystal are annoying. The Democratic Party is a big tent and if committed to it you have to understand that you will not agree with it all the time, but stick with it.
Thanks again. I needed this.
Welcome to the channel!
Apparently, the tent is not big enough for the uncommitted movement or American-Palestinians.
@@charisma-hornum-fries The uncommitted movement sounds like a movement that doesn’t wanna be under a tent
@@charisma-hornum-friesin all seriousness, I think it’s a bit of a tough expectation to call for a nation to stop supporting one of its strategic allies. Whether right or wrong, a country is most likely going to keep supporting a needed ally, and if both candidates are going to maintain the status quo, I believe it’s important to consider which one actually calls for a two state solution. I mean, at this point with Iran attacking Israel it’d be a pretty destabilizing impact to the entire Middle East to cut all military aid to Israel. But also, I totally get that Netanyahu has been running a genocidal campaign from the get go. I mean, I don’t support the war in Gaza but the issue is such a grey area and I feel like any action taken is a damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of deal. I mean, hamas is a literal terrorist organization. Iran supports numerous terrorist organizations. So basically, I just think it’s such a geopolitically complex issue and at the end of the day, Kamala and Biden are pushing for a cease-fire, Kamala is calling for a two state solution, and there’s no way Trump would solve this issue any better considering he fully supported Israel in his term
It's not pragmatism. It's propaganda. The RINOS are hi-jacking the Dem Party. I bet he's getting paid by the corporate elite! RINOs and Dem elites. The left is dropping off.
One thing that made sense to me about force the vote was not for a legislative win but to give organizers the information they need in order to effectively campaign AGAINST any democrats who would vote nay outing themselves as in the pocket of big-insurance.
Also, I wish Kamala would activate voters who are not motivated to vote at all by proposing better policies from the left, rather than capitulating to the right. But her hubris is toeing the line of being Biden’s VP and not making it seem like she disagrees with him completely.
All in all she is a very underwhelming candidate who I wish had to actually win a real primary for the nomination, but the milk is already spilled! :(
Yeah, I wish she didn't run to the right as soon as the DNC was over. The left has no representation in this country.
Plz lmk the programs because I haven’t heard anything
Respectful disagreement, this is nice to see. Bravo. And I love Kyle, but agree his support for the Force the Vote thing was juvenile. Big mistake, ALL it did was give grifting dumpster fires like Dore more power.
Hutch we just love looking at your handsome face
Lmao imagine if Hutch was still doing CoD content? just talking about "Hey guys yeah this week we're covering the AK47 its back again in black ops 6, just like the last 37 games, and again, its a twoshot gun like every other gun in cod" and trying to stretch that out to half an hour?
One of my favorite things about Kamala Harris is that she "owns the libs" and "owns the cons" at the exact same time. Hopefully that gets the edgelords voting for Harris.
@@thomasffrench3639 How does she own the libs? She is literally what they ask for
You should definitely go on Kyle’s show and have this debate.
Hey Hutch, just wanted to say I subbed to your channel back in the MW2 days. And as I grew older I cared less and less about gaming and stopped watching YT content about gaming nearly all together. I unsubscribed to most of the old gaming channels but I could never bring myself to unsub to yours because you were pretty much my first favorite TH-camr. All that being said, ever since you made the content pivot I've watched as many of your videos as I can, and it's pretty cool that this older more mature viewer is able to jump back into your older more mature content. Appreciate the pivot and everything you've ever done for YT.
Thanks buddy glad you dig the change!
Hutch- I agree with you 100%. I do like Kyle but I do believe his liberalism can be grifty
I’m with Kyle. You underestimate the power of sheer enthusiasm to vote in the first place. Many people will just stay home if they feel disenfranchised by their choices.
In real world democrats have to reach republicans to pass most legislations. Like LBJ for Medicare and social security that millions benefited from it.
Hey Hutch! I know you and your buds are busy busy busy, but how’s Nanners? Would love to see him pop in on something like this. Love y’all
SeaNanners fell down the alt-right TH-cam pipeline and as a result of that he and Hutch had a falling out. Where the hell do you think SeaNazism came from?
Watched you on Machinima as a kid , it's nice to have content that is aging with you
1999 wants it's lip ring back.
He backed a woman that was in his wedding
I really hope they finally see that their movement is not needed when Harris/Walz win
I think the risk paid off man… I’ve been really enjoying this new shift
Also, I totally agree with your take. Liz Cheney is more helpful for swing voters imo.
Thanks bud
@@TannerWendellStewart of course she is, put your thinking caps on and put yourself in a true moderates postion, like me!
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You should get ahold of kyle and do a debate. I think it would be interesting.
... wait, wtf was this? Context and nuance?? I thought i was watching a video about politics!!
Obama didn't want to go further with the ACA. If he had, he would have when he had a super majority. If only Obama had been as progressive as he convinced everyone he was, during his first run.
I hope you get to thoroughly correct Kyle on his show
You can't vote this away.
You ever think about streaming on TH-cam?
Force the vote makes sense to me.
Far right republicans do this for their priorties and get concessions.
In the state of our democracy, it's how the left can rapidly achieve material gains for the working class.
Rapidly achieving material gains for the working class and working their ass to publicize this is how progressive politicians gain popularity and votes.
A better priority for the left is democracy reform and local organizing imo. Getting your community engaged as self sufficient advocates for the working class, along with reforming our democracy. This is how we prevent America from becoming a failed state, and instead a thriving one.
Glad you’re doing what you want. I first heard of you when you did Pogchamps 1, and enjoyed watching you then. but didn’t watch after because I wasn’t into gaming content. I like the politics stuff so you’ve got 1 new fan at least since the pivot 😂
Aweome! Thanks bud.
(1) Style (2) Policies (3) Democracy & Rule of Law (4) Truth. Most elections are about (1) and (2). This election to defeat Trump is about (3) and (4). We disagree with Liz Cheney on (1) and (2), but we are allies on (3) and (4). Why is this so hard to understand for some in the left?
While I'm a big fan of Kyle, I do agree he can be too much of a purist. He talks about being nuanced, but he tends to be quite rigid at times. I like your take on this.
I hate Liz Cheney but if she's going to vote for Kamala then that's good for democracy. So whatever Liz's reasons are for allying herself with the Democrats is fine with me so long as Trump loses this election.
Hutch just made me aware of who he is by constructively criticizing the American left's best commentator imo. I hope you and Kyle debate at some point for sure.
Uncommitted are not voting for Kamala. Why would she "snuggle" up to them? You get people who are voting for you. Lets stop playing these games. Do you wanna win or just argue talking points?
Wishing all the best for you man. I'm enjoying the content.
You don't understand (and you misrepresented) what the real strategy of force the vote was. Do more research before you post.
I think you're selling Kyle a little short. Hopefully you will discuss these topics with him and Krystal and get some clarity...
Okie dokie youngster you have earned a new (old, lol) subscriber. I really like your content and your takes on the republican/Cheney effect…Good instincts you have there imo…I’m a former Republican and a huge Bernie supporter now…Best wishes
Woo woo I’m a Californian. The best state.