Wolf Scene Analysis - Fantastic Mr. Fox
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- My interpretation might differ from yours, but here is how I see the scene. I would re-edit/re-script this video for more detail, but I am lacking in that wolf footage, and it would take me another good 5 hours. I hope you enjoy.
Also, I know it's Kristofferson Silverfox. I couldn't read it until I viewed the high bitrate version of the movie I have on my comp.
One thing I noticed to be pretty symbolic of Mr. Fox's human attributes is the removal of his tail. After this moment in the film he starts to physically resemble a human even more, with the shots of his silhouette (like in the waterfall scene) making his appearance reflect that of a human rather than some creature. A tail is something uniquely wild that animals have, and the fact that his is detachable by the end of the movie represents his compromise as a Man and an Animal.
Ex. Act. Ly!!!
Yup if only he knew his actions had consequences he would still have his tail
Nick Wilde suppresses his own predatory instincts as he won't harm Judy, ever.
oh my god.
YESS gotta love that representation of ✨balance✨
Mr. Fox's phobia of wolves represents his fear of being himself (aka being a wild animal).
u just succinctly summarised what a bunch of long comment essays couldn't 😭
I think it’s more about him not worrying about something being bigger and better than what he feels his talents are. Mr. Fox always compared himself and put himself at a higher standard than what he could’ve managed, but men and wolves were always the bigger threats. he pretended that he had them outsmarted and could solve anything, but always had the feelings of doubt, even for something as simple as writing a column in a newspaper.
Why not a wild fox then? Why a wolf?
@@EdgarTheOgre because he himself is a fox so it would have less impact
fear of being himself, and that is to fear his own responsibility
Love the wolf scene...the music.....the fist.....Goosebumps...
Goosbumps 100 time's for me🖒😍😢👌
... and full on waterworks 😭 So beautiful! 🐺✊🏻
@@marycrawley3828 yea i teared up when i saw this too
That wolf just trippin
My opinion;
Mr. Fox is a wild animal. Yet he has become artificial, domesticated. His wild instincts are suppressed by civilization, the architecture of rules, unspoken contracts made to restrain that wild animal within. He still believes he is a wild animal. In some aspects Mr. Fox is very much human, just as us, he is afraid of his wild side. The primal side, which makes men destroy, and consume. Carnivorious instincts. In this scene Mr. Fox accepts the fact that he lives in a civilized world, but still acknowledges his wildness. He understands, that he could not be a wolf, but for a moment both him, and the wolf raise their fists in mutual respect. The wolf may have understood him or not, but that is not the point. What the wolf understood was that he respects the struggle of Mr. Fox's survival, even if it is a different kind of struggle than his, but a struggle none the less.
Good video by the way! :)
Romet Monte-Cristo
You sir are a genius
Romet Monte-Cristo you're pretty fucking smart dude I could tell I was thinking the same exact things but I just couldn't put my finger on it like you did
the train passing by after mr. fox rides away further illustrates that he lives in between the civilized and wild worlds
I think you are right for the most part, but I feel roald dahls intention was speaking for mankind. Because we are all animals, being a human isn't the opposite to being an animal. What he's trying to say is Mr fox is like many of us. We have an animalistic side, yet we are pressured and told to be civilized and something we're not. In no way is he saying we should be savage and become crazy beasts, if anything he is explaining animals can be peaceful and they aren't all dangerous. But ultimately we should accept the fact we are animals and we shouldn't act like gods or whatever being civilized means.
What a majestic answer. Respect.
My interpretation of the scene was essentially the opposite. The wolf isn't distinct from Mr. Fox. They're both wild animals. The whole reason Mr. Fox acted out his animal side by stealing the chickens was because of how deeply unfulfilled he was with pretending he wasn't a fox. His phobia of the wolf shows that he's in conflict with his true nature.
The "you cussing with me" scene is good because it shows that these character's can't truly hide what they are -- even if they're talking about property - they're still living inside of trees, under ground, and outside of human society.
By rejecting the constructed/artificial barriers that have been created for him, such as human language like Latin, french or english, he's better able to understand and come to terms with his animalistic side, and thus communicate with the wolf. He comes to terms with the idea that being a wild animal - the wolf - isn't so scary after all. The speech he gives to his family at the end is the film basically telling us this. That it's okay for them to be wild animals.
It's a message we can all take something away from. We're all distinct and have things about ourselves we can't change. We should find acceptance in these things and find a way to make them work for us. Believing otherwise ultimately does greater harm than good.
well said
Love the way u said that and i totally agree, i just think that there still is a distinct barrier or distance between the wolf and mr. fox to signify the balance that mr. fox has with his wild side and humanistic side. Im still with everything u said, his speech definitely states that one shouldve have to hold back who they truly are, but he also shows how artificial aspects of ones identity is still okay (this refers to the whole synthetic goose and apples thing he mentioned)
nailed it perfectly
love your interpretation, you cleared my own perspective and its beautifully said
Even the fact that mr fox walks on two legs and the wolf on all four backs up your points too
that was beautiful. Fox goes through a mid life crisis thinking the best times of his life are behind but he comes to accept his age. at the end of the day it doesn't matter where you are as long as you are with the ones you love. then the good times of life aren't really over are they?
this scene never fails to make me cry
this great music is to blame
Same
I love this scene. "Good luck out there" is hinting at all the adventure and struggles the wolves life entails, a whole new saga of stories and tales. The majestic music, the fist in the air, the hints of winter coming, are so powerful, i almost tear up everytime. The whole movie is set in this autumn tone, and even mr.fox gets more white hair as he grows older, the oncoming winter in this scene also symbolizing the coming winter of mr.fox life, as it's nearing it's end.
Everyone seems to miss the political issue of the fist : 5 fingers together, stronger as one (a fist). That's a revolutionary symbol, for a revolution to come, a "keep the fight brother ! ". And that's exactly what Fox tells to the wolf since he knows that he can't be a wild animal himself. And another thing : why Fox talks to the wolf in french ? Because it is the language of the revolution. For Anderson, who loves french culture, the wild people talks in french.
The French "Pensez-vous que l'hiver sera rude?" ("Do you think we are in for a hard winter?") is a quote from the ending scene of the movie "Jeremiah Johnson" with Robert Redford. Jeremiah Johnson is a trapper and at the end of the movie, he is wearing a wolf skin while heading to snowy mountains. He then sees a native American who tried to kill him earlier in the movie. But this time, he salutes him instead, just like Mr Fox does. The "Pensez-vous que l'hiver sera rude ?" ("Do you think we are in for a hard winter?") comes from a French joke about a trapper asking the same question to a native American. He asks it in order to know if he needs to store more wood for the winter to come. The native American tells him that he must. The next day, that trapper visits the native American again and asks the same question. The answer is the same and so on the next day and the day after. After a week of wood chopping, the tired trapper asks the native American "But how do you know that we are in for a hard winter?". And the native American answers "When I see white people chopping lots of wood, I know we are in for a hard winter". - quoted from a comment from another video :)
That was the most beautiful animated film analysis of my freaking life 😭😢
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
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I just noticed how mr Fox is orange, like the grass on his side and on the wolfs side its white, like bottom part of mr Foxs lower part of his face and his nose is black, like the wolf.
Dumb, but seems like the whole scene is on mr Foxs face. I haven't watched the movie, I will very soon.
It’s been 4 years of head scratching 🥲I’ve finally found closure
I legitimately cry at this scene
when you mentioned like “a symbolic barrier [the wolf] could not cross and mr fox couldnt either” i noticed the framing of the shot where mr fox is holding up his fist. his hand is a similar color to the orange grass, and it stops right under the white snow-he doesnt cross into that world even then. thanks for helping me notice that detail-cool vid!
super late to the Fantastic Mr. Fox train (since i just watched it today), but i adore how the movie subtly shows the theme (or message) of the movie without outright saying it. for example, some scenes have Mr. Fox saying some serious or genuine things but then immediately go to a comedic scene as if you weren’t supposed to notice or catch on. (ex. Mr. Fox saying that he doesn’t want to live in a hole anymore but the scene soon cuts to him comedically destroying a piece of toast. or how he gives the toast at the end of the movie in the supermarket and the music cuts when he talks about “survival.” before it cuts to the comedic dance party) the movie is genius, and i am so mad that i didn’t watch it sooner.
this scene confused me, but didn't know it actually have deep meaning
nice analysis, ty
this is my favorite Wes Anderson movie, so underrated
good video, also Kristoffersons last name is "silverfox", you can kinda see it on the name tag
lol, yea. When I originally made the video, I was using footage from my old DVD burn, but then I changed it to a blu-ray copy after editing, and decided to leave it in. I made that a note in my description.
When the wolf put its fist in the air.... I entered the shadow realm
Thanks you really helped me out. I also love fantastic mr fox and never before understood this scene. now the film has a deeper meaning and character development. I really appreciate it
This is some pretty heavy shit for a movie based off a Roald Dahl book.
He is a wild animal AND a family man. I believe the whole film revolves around his dual nature. At times he would like to be completely civilized, at times his wild nature gets the better of him. During the whole movie this two natures are in constant conflict, in this moment he doesn't really realize anything. It's not a realization, it's not rationality that is working here. In this scene for the first time he feels both of his sides. He finds his true identity, first and foremost a civilized man, but his wild side doesn't scare him anymore. His wild side got him in troubles but also made him grow. He is both a man and a wolf, he is a fox, a really smart and civilized wild Animal. For the first time in the movie he admires the wilderness, he feels it, accept it, and carries on. The wolf didn't attack him, he raised his hand to salute him, as a civilized individual would do. He keeps being separated, alien, but there's nothing to fear, deep down wilderness lives inside everyone of us, but it's nothing to be feared, you just need to respect it. This is how I feel about this scene. It's not about accepting that you're not a wild animal, I don't know. Maybe I saw that because I don't want to let go my inner wild animal 😢
Bruh... 5-6 hours on a video is light work! I dream of only spending that long on what I have to edit. Seriously a great video btw! Subbed.
Diesel Beast Films thank you so much for the sub. It really warms my heart that you enjoyed the video. It truly does. I think I'm going to make a video soon about the possibilities of more "Alec's animation corner", and what videos I'm thinking about making. I have a few ideas, and I'm hoping to get cracking on them over spring break at least
The wolf is the wild, Mr. Fox had to let go.
Good analysis. I can see how the wolf scene represents the acceptence of the separation between his wild side and his civility, but I think that leaves Mr Fox's phobia of wolves unexplained. If the wolf represents wilderness, why would Mr Fox be afraid of wolves at a point of the film where he seems to be fixated on the idea that he is a wild animal? (the robbery scene I mean).
I think it makes perfect sense that he'd be afraid of wolves. He wants to think of himself as a wild animal, he uses it as a justification for his behaviour (stealing the chickens, lying to his wife, etc.) But confronting the wolf means coming face to face with the true wild animal. When he sees what wildness actually is, it makes his justifications fall apart. He has to come to terms with the fact that he's not a wild animal, that he's getting older, and that he has responsibilities to his family, his community, and to himself.
Thank you so much for this! It really cleared up the subject for me
When I watched this scene I just had a good laugh and thought "this is genius, but what's the purpose ?" I get it better now ! This scene is tons of fun but also super good narratively, probably my favorite from the whole movie, perhaps tie withe the waterfall scene, whish is one of the most beautiful set I ever seen in a stop-motion movie... I heard a lot about this movie, and I didn't get disappointed when I went to watch it, amazing !
Thanks for this, I had no idea what this meant the first time I saw this. Or second. Now that it is cleared up I want to thank you.
Mr Fox understands the tenuous link between species which breaks his heart.
rccsrGaming: Mr Fox plans out everything.
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Kylie: What’s the master escape plan?
Mr Fox: 😦
Excellent analysis! I love this man.
Favorite movie :)
i got the impression the wolf was death/mortality and thats what mr fox is afraid of
i was baffled by this scene, but luckily i found this video! also, you should consider getting a podcast or reading audiobooks, for your voice and intonation is beautiful.
whoa........mind blown, i had no idea, good analysis there.
This is a really great video! I loved your explanation throughout it all. Thank you :)
naru sasu thank you so much! It means a lot that you enjoyed it!
rccsrGaming haha nice! So when/what is your next Alec's Animation Corner? :)
Haha, you have no idea how good that question made me feel, really warmed my heart to know that you enjoyed it enough to ask. I had a couple planned and I was going to start script writing but at the time I only had like 200 views and then school got in the way, and I forgot about it. Making a new one will definitely be on my to-do list going forward. I'm amazed at how this video is blowing up all of a sudden
rccsrGaming haha maybe, it's a sign....just saying
Love the scene a lot. And your analysis too. Good job!
kristofferson silverfox thats what it says
Really interesting video, fair play!
Thank you very much!!
One of my favourite scenes of all time and definitely of this this movie!
My favorite scenes from a Wes Anderson film.
His full name is Kristofferson cleverfox
Great video! Cant wait for more! Plz keep up the good work!
4:32 Mr Fox *dabs*
Uhaha
Good video. Hope to see even more!
I'm glad you like it! I had an absolute blast making it. I do plan on making more in the future. School just takes up a huge amount of my time.
rccsrGaming Glad to hear you enjoyed analysing it. I'd love to start my own analysis', but of course, School is a real pain in the side.
Dude very well done video! I liked this a lot.
Que hermosura loco, siempre vuelvo a esa escena, cuando al Zorro se le ponen los ojos llorozos es para llorar justamente.
Kristofferson Oliverfox
42 cm (tall - for a cub)
3.5 kg
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ill father
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Really?
Name: Kristoffersson Silverfox
Height: 42 cm (tall for a cub)
Weight: 3.9 Kg
Allergies: Nope
Reason for travel: Ill father
I have a different perspective but this is interesting
Precious Mkubwa oooh, do tell
rccsrGaming he is very much a wild animal no matter how domesticated he may become. That's why he acknowledged the wolf at the end.
I too hope to talk about this movie with many people... In a philosophical sense... I just don't know when would be the right time I guess
I agree with you, he desires a wild life but he lives in an artificial world that doesnt match him
He even lose his tail, what makes him "Less animal".
I have seen this movie 20 times, I love this movie
I highly recommend watching the full movie I've seen it about 20 times. But it is still good
I've read a little about this scene online, but none of the explanations have pleased me in my search.
I appreciate the otherworldliness of the environment and the wolf's imagined purity. It's odd that Mr. Fox isn't terrified of the wolf, despite the fact that he claims to be. He sobs as though he had just saw something exceedingly pure, such as a unicorn.
I also find it weird that, despite the fact that they are all animals, only the wolf is wild, and even though they admire it, they treat the entire experience as if it were a zoo visit. It has no effect on them or influences their lives in any way. Instead of the already artificial (albeit less so) life they had with human-like jobs, they continue to live in the sewers.
I also don't get why the wolf raises its fist as if to imply it's on the same team as the foxes yet they're doing completely different things.
This moment strikes me as much more serious and sincere than the remainder of the film, which contains a lot of post-modern irony jokes with no clear opinion, and I'd like to learn more about it.
Imo this scene emphasizes that Mr. fox now lives in a codependency with the "civilised" world of the humans and cannot survive without them anymore. He assumed their speech and customs (calls himself MISTER fox) and survives on one upping the humans whilst the wolf seems to be the only species in the movie that has rejected the human way of life. The inevitability of man encroaching on nature is further symbolised by the road and the train at the end of the scene on fox's side. The wolf symbolises the last small edge of untainted nature and how it is perceived as "scary" by us
That was a fantastic review. You have a great voice.
it says on the Krisstoferson silverfox
The fist made peace between Foxes and wolves
The second is in the bad guys
Beautiful analysis💜I applaud you
Mr Fox's phobia of wolves is basically just a joke/reference to how in the wild, the two animals are natural enemies/competitors; wolves will even kill foxes. In folklore and literature foxes and wolves are often antagonists.
I don't see it as Mr Fox coming to terms with the fact he's not a wild animal, but the opposite. They salute each other with the raised fist, they don't need to know each other's language to understand that simple gesture. It means respect, solidarity. They are fighting the same fight. The fight to survive, the fight of all life in nature.
The scene is great because it symbolises the themes of basically the whole movie in one. Accepting your nature, without letting it define you.
I may be grasping at straws here, but hear me out. zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance in chapter 7 has a very similar scene between a dog and the character Phaedrus who is also sort of figuring himself out. And this scene in the movie takes place on a motorcycle. Anyways I guess I’m wondering if this scene is also a subtle homage to ZAM
I have a different interrelation, i feel you missed something, thats an observation incidentally not a criticism
Kristofferson Silverfox (This guy I tease has a middle and last name as Silver Fox so I can read that ANYWHERE)
Kristofferson Silverfox is his name!!!!
Great explanation!
Cant believe this movie is not in Disney+ yet
It is now!!!
My favorite scene ever!!
Its all about auto acceptance. Its simple.
Beautiful
Interesting narration.
For me, its not that nor was it about black power.
I believe eventhough Mr. Fox have very high regard of himself n of his own intelligence, he still has his own heroes/idols and has high regards for somebody else which he'd always admired, loved and even feared- the Wolf.
Just to actually meet one in all its grandeur and in its own environment, brought tears to Mr. Fox eyes. They are tears of deep respect and admiration and that he finally able to meet one in real life.
The fact that the Wolf (in his Wisdom? Confusion?) acknowledged the admiration with its arms raised and may even admired the 4 wild animals whch are behaving unlike any other wild animals, is an unexpected suprise.
Mutual respect and admiration of each other existense and struggles?
A very moving scene indeed. Brought tears to my eyes too.
Great narration.
Kristofferson Silverfox, I think
thanks you to maked a video its really helping
This scene is a reference to the black community in the US
I already posted it answearing the only comment that noticed the black power fist but I will leave it here what I said
The whole movie is more about social issues than anything else. The animals are refered as refugees right after the wolf scene, and this makes a lot of sense with the story. The movie Is a reference to how the rich people and the big companies treat and think about the common people, specially the poor people coming from other countries and cultures.
I felt everything about the scene right when I saw it. The wolf represents the black community and i'm a 100% sure of that
Every animal is different then the other and have a place in their animal world against the farmers.
And if you analyse it well, Wes Anderson always touch different cultures very carefully, and he never speaks about african american culture because he knows its not his place and voice to do so, Thats why he doesn't directly speeaks about it. But he pays homage to them socialy in this scene
Mr. Fox shows in the movie that he is scared of wolves,, They can't understand each other and he though they were more wild and dangerous than him because of that. But then he realizes how they are wild animals in this cruel world trying to survive just like him.
He acknowledge the beautiful creature they actually are, cries of joy because he sees how similar they are and wish him luck.
The focus on the fist proves it all by making a straight reference to the black power movement
He doenst refer to black people as monkeys, wich would be really racist. He refer them as wolves.
Strong animals that live together so they can be stronger to survive. But most people believe they are just dangerous because of that
Possibly. No, no… entirely… 100%…. Undoubtedly… the stupidest fucking thing… I’ve ever read… short answer: NO ahahahahaha
This is dope
Kristofferson’s last name is “silver fox”
Kristofferson silverfox
Whats the name of the music at the end?
"Let Her Dance" by The Bobby Fuller Four
It was Kristofferson Silverfox
Yea, I realized that during editing. I found out that it's almost impossible to read his card on the DVD version; But I decided to leave it in.
great!
Funny that I have found in the part with french question about the coming winter found a homage to Game of Thrones with the wolf logo and "Winter is coming" slogan and yet the series did not exist at the time so it is improbable that such homage would be done to the books.
I love it really mean's for me
Thank's
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What’s your email rccsrGaming? I’d love to discuss something
this is a decent ass vid dundee
Daniel Macleavy Thanks man! It means a lot!
My nigga is u giving this to yo English teacher
u miss the point of this film
I always thought it was like a "black power" joke since he raised the fist and the wolf was black. I'm not racist trust me, but it would've made sense.
i don't see it as joke at all. Actually i think this is the deeper meaning behind the scene..
The whole movie is more about social issues than anything else. The animals are refered as refugees right after the wolf scene, and this makes a lot of sense with the story. The movie Is a reference to how the rich people and the big companies treat and think about the common people, specially the poor people coming from other countries and cultures.
I felt everything about the scene right when I saw it. The wolf represents the black community and i'm a 100% sure of that
Every animal is different then the other and have a place in their animal world against the farmers.
And if you analyse it well, Wes Anderson always touch different cultures very carefully, and he never speaks about african american culture because he knows its not his place and voice to do so, Thats why he doesn't directly speeaks about it. But he pays homage to them socialy in this scene
Mr. Fox shows in the movie that he is scared of wolves,, They can't understand each other and he though they were more wild and dangerous than him because of that. But then he realizes how they are wild animals in this cruel world trying to survive just like him.
He acknowledge the beautiful creature they actually are, cries of joy because he sees how similar they are and wish him luck.
The focus on the fist proves it all by making a straight reference to the black power movement
He doenst refer to black people as monkeys, wich would be really racist. He refer them as wolves.
Strong animals that live together so they can be stronger to survive. But most people believe they are just dangerous because of that
Hello, mr. anderson here. This is wrong
It somehow makes me furry
damn!
Hossein Gholami liking this movie definitely doesn’t make you a furry
@@rccsrgaming6987 yeah don’t worry lol
I'm sorry but I did not enjoy :( but I enjoyed your mom heyo. Love ya
This movie is weird.
I don’t like it.
booooooring
i was baffled by this scene, but luckily i found this video! also, you should consider getting a podcast or reading audiobooks, for your voice and intonation is beautiful.