Ruger PC Carbine vs. S&W FPC 9mm Carbine - Range Review - Which One Would You Choose!
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- The S&W FPC and Ruger PC Carbine are two excellent 9mm firearms and my son and I put both of them to the test. Red dot optics are mounted on both carbines, and we use S&W and Glock magazines for our testing.
Over the last few years your channel has really become one of my top favorites, not just for gun channels, but favorite all together. I really appreciate the work you put into your videos and how well you explain things for those of us who are still learning about this stuff. Thanks again Mixup!
Good morning Isaac. My son and I really love making these videos and yes, they do take a lot of time, work and expense, but comments like this make it all worth it. You always leave great comments and we appreciate your feedback. Have a great weekend and we always love hearing from you.
@@mixup98 Thank you, I really appreciate that a lot, I love to support like minded people and the work they do, especially for the second amendment and family values.
@mixup98 Hey, Mixup! I, too, just want you to know that your videos are a must-see for me. I love seeing you and your son enjoying target shooting together. My son graduates high school here in about a month and while he enjoys some occasional shooting with me, there are currently too many alternatives for him that I have to compete with at this stage in his life. He currently seems to have better free time options than hanging out with dear old dad. Such is life. I'm holding out hope that things will eventually come around because I've always been told that I'm supposed to appear smarter as he grows older. 😉
Anyway, I'm curious as to your thoughts on the Magpul backpacker iteration of the Ruger PC Carbine and if you've seen it. Prior to the release of the S&W FPC, I'd been waffling between a Ruger and and a KelTec Sub-2000. After I saw the Backpacker version of the Ruger I thought I had settled upon a decision. Then, S&W released the FPC and added a third option for me. Hmm...🤔
Always good to see you guys out shooting together, you are both great shots, and seeing the fun you guys are having. Thanks for taking us along
Being the owner of a Ruger 10/22, it seems the Ruger PCC is an upscaled version of that platform and would be an easy transition BUT that said, the simplicity of the takedown of the S&W is a great selling point. Not that the Ruger is overly complicated but any design feature that makes maintenance easier is always appreciated.
Glock mag compatibility is a huge plus with the Ruger.
Great head-to-head comparison of the S&W and Ruger carbines, and great friendly and fun head-to-head competition between The Mixup Kid and Mixup Senior. Really enjoy this channel. 👍👍
Always a fun time with you guys, thanks.
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I love how genuine your videos are. They’re not over the top, and they’re more relatable I think on a intermediate firearms enthusiast that doesn’t need to know every measurement but the main points. Something about the videos seems more genuine to me than other channels I like to watch for firearms. I’m glad I found it!
The Ruger shoulders really well. Fits just right and zero malfunctions. AWSOME plinker and home defense weapon.
This was an awesome video! The relationship you have with your son is a bond most father's wish they had. What I love most is the Father, son relationship! Your a great dad!!!
Thank you so much! I love making these videos with my son and I will cherish these moments for the rest of my life.
Just picked up the Ruger from my FFL. It was a toss-up between it and the S & W, but it wasn’t in stock, and I have Glock mags. Been enjoying this series! Thanks to you and your son. 👋🏼🤠
Mixup, I don't comment a lot but want to pass along to you that I love your review videos. Thanks for all the work you put in to your videos and great content!
I appreciate that Riley and I want to thank you for being a two-year subscriber to my channel. Have a great weekend!
Another great review. Every minute is filled with information and even the shooting sequences are illustrating the narrative. Good stuff. I bought the Ruger PC9 take down model when they first came out and so I saved some money over today’s prices. I went crazy and added a Midwest Industries fore end, chassis and a folding adjustable stock. Now I can remove the barrel, folded up the stock and put it all away in a backpack to throw in my truck. Not a cheap setup but I love it. I put a Romeo 5 red dot on it with a riser that allows me to use the iron sights or the red dot. Unusual that you can use both with minimal adjustment of your head position. I have only handled the S&W at my gun shop but simply did not care for it. Of course, with my modifications it is not an apples to apples comparison like yours. Thanks again for another great review.
I've had the Ruger since 2018 but learned just last month that a loose stock can induce malfunctions by altering the magazine feed angle. So I've applied Loctite on the stock screws to prevent them from working loose.
An aquaintance really like the MagPul stock for his Ruger.
I truly appreciate the relationship that U2 have with each other there needs to be more father and son videos like yours. I had the same relationship with my dad he’s not with us anymore. He died in 2019.
My lifelong golf partner was my dad. He made my first clubs in 1963, when I was 6, by sawing off a used set and taping up the grips. I have not golfed since he passed away a decade ago
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Thank you both for this! I’m undecided on the S&W and the Ruger…..(Glad to see dad and son together…)
Always nice to see you post a new video, thanks n' God bless you and your families.
As always very interesting and informative content, thank you for your time posting this video.
Good stuff, as always. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent behind a 10/22, and the PC Carbine looks like an enlarged version. That takedown mechanism is rock solid. The ability to use Glock mags puts the PC Carbine head and shoulders ahead of the S&W, IMO. I'll keep shopping S&W for my revolvers (although you couldn't buy my Vaquero from me for anything), but I'll stick to Ruger for my carbines.
Great video and its cool as hell you and your son hang out shooting together buddy.
I love shooting these videos with my son and I am truly a very lucky man. Thank you John.
Very good comparison and review. Thanks for the video. Very enjoyable.
Glad you enjoyed it and we thank you for watching our video.
Once again you go over something of high interest to me! This was fun stuff!😊 You raised many valid points about both rifles for us to choose. Neither one are junk and would serve a person well. I lean to the ruger on possible durability. But who knows. Some of the plastic pieces are Amazing. But the folding lock up parts being plastic give me pause about long term on the Smith. But my use for the Smith wouldn't be running a lot of rounds. Great job brother.
God bless all here.
‘Cattle’…best song on “The Tube Of You”…it just adds to your excellent content 👍👍👍
super excellent video as always and how lucky you both are to have each other to share your shooting sport. God's Blessings to you and your family.
Thank you Toby and God Bless you and yours.
Good stuff Gents. Those are both fine little carbines. Wishing y'all a great weekend. Thumbs up~John
I have the Ruger like it a lot. I did notice the plastic forearm got pretty hot after shooting a lot I so replaced it with a M-Lok handguard. Solved that issue
Thanks for the upload lads 👍🇬🇧
This is the video I've been waiting for since the S&W came out
Yeah the Ruger edges the S&W out for me. Metal lockup and picatinny rail plus glock magazines is a win. Thanks for the comparison. I like the new dueling plates
Wow! Another good review. Thanks!
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Really neat, informative video. Thanks for posting.
Our pleasure and thank you for watching our video.
The dueling Tree game was awesome! I've never seen that before but looks pretty fun to play for sure
Thanks! Just the comparison I hoped to see. You two make a great team, too.
Good morning Richard. My son and I love making our videos together and we love reading comments like yours. Have a great weekend and thanks for watching.
@@mixup98 Tyvm, Sir! Best to both of you.
Greetings to you and Family, excellent video, thanks for that, both weapons are great, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the Ruger, hugs and best wishes from Caracas Venezuela, I stay tuned for more of your publications.
Great review! As always, thanks!
Thanks for another fun video. To make this really interesting, try this with the Kel-Tec, a Hi-Point and if you can find one, a Marlin Camp Carbine.
Eight or nine years ago I owned a Marlin .45 Camp Carbine, which I bought from a friend for $275! I'm still kicking myself in the face for selling it a year later.
Thanks for sharing! Have a great weekend!
Thank you! You too!
I enjoy your videos and the memories you are making as father and son. I remember hunting with a 410 shotgun with my father. I miss him dearly. Well, enough of that mushy stuff I like the Ruger.
Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy your videos.
Awesome! Thank you so much.
Love your videos. Great time spent with your son ❤
Now you’re going to cost me more money, got to have the RUGER 😁
I got a butt stock pouch for my Ruger PCC, which allows me to carry the allen wrenches and DOPE cards as I run different ammo (115gr, 124gr and 147gr, FMJ and HP). It also gives me just the right amount of rise on the cheek weld for my optic as well as making it softer and not so cold in winter shooting.
Excellent stuff, gents! Well done!
I was considering a PCC for about a year and looked at many different models. I did look at the Ruger but had decided on getting a different one. I liked the Ruger but for various reasons decided against it. Fortunately for me I waited just long enough for SW to introduce theirs and was immediately impressed. After comparing to the model I had decided to buy, I bought the SW FPC and couldn't be happier. It is well built, easy to disassemble to clean and very accurate.
Good choice and I appreciate the feedback. Stay safe, enjoy your S&W and thank you for watching our video.
Excellent video guys..!! Both carbines look terrific, but I have the Ruger, it's the best since it handles glock mags which also used for my handgun so I don't have to think about which mag to use. I'm contemplating changing my Ruger chassis system to the Magpul Back Edition since it looks more sleeker & can tie in the barrel section to the buttstock so it easier to carry in a backpack as one unit. Thanks also for comparing the bullet speeds on the carbine vs the handgun which was very interesting to see, especially since they use the same mag.
Great review. I got my Ruger a few months before the S&W came out. And since I live in Cali, it doesn't need a stupid fin behind the grip to make it compliant! TBS I really love my PC Carbine........
Great video ! Thanks
Another great video. Thank you
Our pleasure!
WOW Your video production is outstanding! Great content. Kudos to you and Son.👍
We really appreciate your nice feedback, Robert. We love reading comments like yours and my son and I thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on our video.
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If I didn't have my CX4, or was invested in Glocks, I would choose the Ruger. If I decide to get a full size SW m&p handgun, I would probably get the PCC as well. The SW m&p metal has my attention so does the Walther PDP. Great video! 👍
Really really enjoyed the video guys thank you!!
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2 pounds in my pack is significant Split the difference, the SW allows me to carry 1 pound or 64 more rounds of 9mm
I am planning on getting the Ruger. Thank you for this comparison!
Good choice, George! My son and I thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on our video.
Awesome, I will buy the S&W if it ever becomes approved here in Ca. Great video, always a good time shooting with your kids.
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It is i have one Awesome little plinker and deploys much faster also the magazines are more robust and their fore less miss shots/jams!! Also it is a blowback system Reliable!!And magazines interchangeable with S&W handguns and uses full size or compact!! Assuming Ca. is Canada? 🙂
love all of your videos sir
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@@mixup98 thank you,thank you very much
Really nice guns think I'm gonna get me one great video mix an son super enjoy you guys. Till next time
They both look awesome.
And so do the shotguns! 👍😁 👍😁
That’s a pretty cool little program there. Thank you for the info.😊
You're welcome and thank you for watching my video.
Excellent review!
Thanks Mike....we appreciate the great feedback.
Love the Ruger, but also really really like the spare mag holder in the S&W
Comment for the algorithm. It's always fun to watch you guys shoot and review guns. I'm a fan of both S&W and Ruger. I like how the Ruger locks up with steel on steel and can take multiple manufacturers' magazines but I like how the S&W stays together when you separate the parts and carries spare mags. When you can't decide, the only rational choice is to get both.
Heck yeah, get 'em both....that's what I did 👍😎
Another great video. Thanks! Just would like to point out that I found a study online about the max effective barrel length for 9mm. They found that around 8.5" is the max. After that the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Sort of. You may get more accuracy but not much more FPS. Thought about getting a PCC but after reading the article I decided against it. For example, Cor-Bon 90 gr JHP +P for a 2" barrel is 1215 fps, 10" 1647 fps and 18.5" is 1754 fps. From 2" to 10" the fps gain is 430+ fps while 10" to 18.5 gains only 110 fps and that's not a great increase for the cost. Just saying.
I love the way the s w is made the way it folds.
I always enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that!
Thanks guys. I’m shooting with my son this weekend!
That's great. Tell your son that we said "hello".
I like the design of the S&W better but the plastic parts and their reputation for customer service makes me lean towards the Ruger. Thanks for a great video comparing them.
Fellers, you sold me on the Ruger. I have one more to consider. Henry's Homsteader. I'm buying one of those today. Thanks gentlemen.
I voted with my pocketbook... I have a Ruger. But I got it before S&W came out with theirs. The Glock mags is a huge thing as-is the ability to keep the barrel lock-up tight. Thanks for a great review!
Appreciate your input
Great video! I have the Ruger and love it.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback, John.
Two basic upgrades I did to my PC Carbine were add a Midwest Industries charging handle. It's made of STEEL, it's only a 1/4-3/8" longer than the factory charging handle and it's knurled for sweaty hands. It's just enough longer to notice a difference in the ease of charging but not so long that it catches on stuff.
Also, I put in a $50 Volquartsen Target Hammer in the gun. It makes the trigger pull just a little bit lighter and shorter. It's not a ridiculously light trigger pull that could be unsafe. Just two basic upgrades that improve the functional usage of the gun.
I have the Ruger. Great gun. I’m getting the S&W as soon as I can get my hands on one!
Great review. Great outro.
Thank you kindly!
Just got 2 PCCs now both Hi Points which i like a lot....If i were to get another it would be the Ruger I own S&W handguns and Rugers ... My American Pistol in 45acp is like a tank Solid so is my Security 9...not taking away from S&W but the Ruger would be for me!!😊....Great review as always must of been on Vacation Haven't seen too many of your videos lately you are one of the few i watch through the end and i always Value your opinions some which cost me at my LGS😅😅....Thanks again Mixup98!😊❤
Hello Leonard. I didn't make every many videos over the winter months due to the cold and wind, but I have posted eight videos since the beginning of March. Hopefully you will get the chance to watch most of them. Thank you for the nice compliments....you just made my day.
Ruger PCC is on my shortlist but first 357 mag lever! Happy Friday ! 👍
A 357/38 lever gun is tops on my Really Want list.
Very nice video. I think I'd go with the Ruger based on your observations. I have a Kel Tech Sub 2000 and a ton of Glock mags. Getting the Ruger with the Glock mag well is worth the extra hundred and twenty bucks. Interchangeability in magazines is important to me when it comes to PCCs.
Especially if you have a Glock handgun. I have a PSA Dagger which is a Gen 3 clone. My Ruger takes glock mags and it is very convenient for when you want to use that 33 round extendo in your pistol.
What No Sub 2000? LOL! Just Kidding. Love All your Videos! Thanks for the Awesome Video!
I have owned a Ruger PC carbine since they first came out, never had a failure of any kind
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
It's the breakdown Ruger for me every time.
i have a Ruger. Had it for around 6 years give or take. Love it. Only thing about it is the chamber is just a little loose and the brass comes out all sooty. I imagine it is loose to accommodate all types of ammo without any hiccups.
Great fun. I like that Ruger, but would like either. Nice shooting 👍🙏😎
Thank you Peter and we thank you for taking the time to watch and comment on our video.
I think that you like that cx-4 storm best of all. Your face just lights up when you're shooting it.
The $600 range seems like a fairly good deal for either of these. The S&W looks to be a great value with all those magazines out of the box. (As long as you have an extra optic on hand...) But the Ruger is proven at this point.
My ruger only came with 1 mag. I think its a security 9 mag. I don't know i never used it. I use glock mags in it
@@guerom1367 yeah a 17 rd Security 9 mag. Supposedly it runs most reliably with those, so that is what I stick with.
@@rob6850 i never had a problem with the glock mags till the gun messed up. Had to send it in to get fixed
@@guerom1367 did they tell you what the problem was?
@@rob6850 yes but i don't remember the exact parts. It was a few tho. I know the bolt was one tho. Good customer service tho. They took care of it quick
The S&W is a nice looking gun, but I don't like plastic. So, I'd pay a bit more and take the Ruger. Liked the vid. 👌🏻👍🏻
Nice shooting videos, the problem and the question that was not addressed is how fast you can deploy both of these platforms. Assuming this is a truck gun, the Smith and Wesson can be deployed a lot faster. There is no barrel and receiver to align and twist. That was the main point for me.
I like the ruger 9mm carbine thanks for sharing mixup98
Thank you sir! Great comparison! Ruger for sure!
Thanks for watching!
Hmmm great vid as always. I have the Ruger PC and like it a lot. I do like the way the S&W folds... kinda cool. I also have the Glock mag well installed and so of course, I can use my 33 round mags. The mag carrier thing on the Smith is nice.... I'm not replacing my Ruger - and I like the ability to customize the pull length. I could see somebody getting the Smith though... if they prioritize it's features...
Bought the Ruger a few years, ago. Besides adding an extended charging handle and mag release it was perfect out of the box and dead nuts accurate. I recently added a Sig Romeo 5 for good measure too. The biggest downside is field strip and cleaning. I hate cleaning this thing, too many parts in my mind, could have been a simpler design. But if that's the worst part, I can live with it. I also love the Ruger for its lack of "offending" characteristics, which isn't an issue where I live but for some might be a selling point.
Thank you!! Very helpful
You are very welcome and thank you for watching our video.
What, no bloopers? Lol. I also like both of these firearms but prefer the Ruger. Owning several PCC's, the Ruger is my favorite because it breaks down easily, yet it is more like a traditional firearm when firing it. The added weight is a plus for me and like you said, having sights is a big bonus.
Nope, just didn't have any bloopers this time to put in this video. Don't know if that is good or bad 😁
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You guys are always good, the bloopers just make it a little more fun. Keep em coming.
Right on brother's, good video father and son shooting can't go wrong. God bless ya 😊
Much appreciated....I am truly a lucky man. God bless.
I have the ruger PC carbine it's a perfect combo with my glock 19 9mm
Probably best shtf combo for the money. I love how it breakdown like the 10 22. Put some +p+ 9mm in it and it's like a 357mag
The real trick with the Ruger is to get the Magpul Backpacker stock. Then have the G17 mag with a +2 to fit in the storage compartment, and have the G26 mag installed while disassembled. Then mix and match other Glock mags to fit your needs.
So MUCH to like about the S&W- "BUT" i think for me it comes down to which companion /carry pistol, also the proliferation/availability of glock mags & Ruger is so well made & $100. or so less
Great thumbs up video. IMO, glad you favored the Ruger.
E your relationship with your son. Impressive in this present world … good job.
Much appreciated, Thomas & Pamela. I love making videos with my son and we thank you for taking the time to watch our video.
Great Video!!!!!!! I love my RUGER PC... such a Great VALUE! and the feel is Awesome!!!!!
Love my Ruger PC carbine. Super reliable and accurate!
Love mine, did ALL he MCARBO upgrades.
Like your Chanel, looks like you both are having fun....both very nice rifles, but I gotta say, I prefer the Ruger!
The smith and wesson gives me mini mg 42 vibes.
Great stuff.