Yep we are, most coloureds are mostly of a European/Sub Saharan African Bantu mixture, many has strong African Hunter Gatherer genes, and in my case being Cape Malay, we have a lot of Asian genes, ranging mainly from South East and South Asia, but also a lot of North Africa and West Asia, with some Native American peppered in.
a.) You say "black" like that's one single, undifferentiated thing. Our "black" ancestry includes a number of African ethnicities. Usually, it's both local indigenous Khoekhoe and a variety East African lineages. Our enslaved East African ancestors were involved in the same Indian Ocean trade networks that supplied slave labour to Brazil, the Gulf, Arabian Peninsula, India, etc. Most were from southeastern Bantu-speaking peoples, but others came from further north up into the Horn of Africa. Most of the remaining enslaved continental Africans were West and Central African (Benin, Nigeria, Guinea, Senegal, Angola) and further minority arrived from slave societies in the Arab/Persian world as indicated by toponymic surnames given them, like "van Persie", "van Arabie", "van Abyssinia". b.) Most of us can expect to have as much Asian (South and Southeast) than European ancestry, if not more. After continental East Africans, a variety of South Asian ethnicities (e.g. Bengali, Tamil, Malayali) made up the largest cohort (~25%) of enslaved people under Dutch colonial rule. The people with origins in the Indonesian archipelago proper accounted for a little over a fifth of all enslaved labourers, while a handful came from mainland Indo-China and the southern Philippines. The third most common place of origin for enlsaved people was Madagascar (another ~25%) who already represent an admixed population of primarily ancestral Indonesians and continental East Africans c.) Of course, all populations are ancestrally mixed. Many peoples know that historical minorities that they've absorbed or assimilated into the dominant population. The interesting thing about coloured South Africans, even when compared to other recently founded slave descendant population like those in the Americas, is not only how diverse, but how "balanced" the intercontinental ancestral admixture is on average. Individual variation within group notwithstanding, no single identifiable ancestral component can be said to be unequivocally dominant compared to any of the others.
@@ITSKSMTC DNA studies shows the average South African coloured is mixed with at least 4 different groups, which makes us the most mixed people on earth. We literally descend from every continent besides Antarctica
Very true I'd really like to do one of these tests. My mother's side is African, British, Dutch and Filipino. Dad's side is African and Polish Jew. And that's only me tracing back as far as my great great grandparents and the limited information I have. My two great grand fathers have one parent with roots in Saint Helena which is known for Britain's slave trade so who knows where my other African ancestors came from. I also have a rare surname which actually from Cote d'ivoire. No idea how it got here
Wow, so international. You are the future brother. Crazy part is the he’s only 0.1% hunter gatherer and yet most cape coloured people will claim to be Khoisan? I’ve watched pretty much all the TH-cam videos of coloured people and they’re very similar. Very little hunter gatherers. I wanna get the test for my husband from who’s from CT but I’ll feel really bad because I get the feeling that he’ll have to rethink his identity:(
Absolutely true. Post apartheid and it seems like the South African Coloured identity is all over the place. Theres alot of negative connotations linked to the word Coloured these days so people are distancing themselves from the word and the community more than before. Hence you get people who look mixed claiming to be black khoisan etc
Fadiel Benjamin everyone deserves to know who they are and to be able to identify as such with confidence. Breaks my heart that some people literally have no idea at all
Yes the allusions to hunter-gatherer ancestry gets "over-mythologized" among some Coloured people. The Xhosa and Tswana are quantitatively more likely to be the descendants of ancient hunter-gatherers. Also visibly evident in the high cheekbones, epicanthic eyes and clicks in the languages of many black South Africans.
Thanks for sharing! Marco has very interesting look and it is hard to pinpoint his ancestry origin. Wow, really analyzing diverse results. Zen looks very Filipino to me. The broadly results mean part your dna data do not completely match the particular genetic markers. It does not mean you have Native American ancestry or more Chinese ancestry. It may be still including the South East Asian ancestry. Someday 23andme may be able to pinpoint more specific results.
German and French are close together in geography and I heard it's considered about the same. I have that too and Irish and British is put together, well it's the British Isles, I guess. Yeah you are very mixed in South Africa similar to those of us who are of Hispanic heritage. Our history covers, Africa (mostly west), European, Asia, Central European Jews and Spanish Jews, and Amerindians, most of the contitents. Yet, Hispanics represent mixed and less mixed populations depending on the country as some of us are basically, African or European, or Amerindian. But most are a blend of generational mixing similar to South Africans.
Kinda, more specifically cape malay (austronesian group who are somewhat related to filipinos). The average cape coloured looks more intermediate between khoe/san and west eurasians, or intermediate between SSAs and west eurasians.
@Carey Queen To be fair, I was called "Chinese" by other coloured children when I was in creche. It's not like there are no coloured people who are unambiguously Asian/African/European-looking according to common stereotypes. Look at someone like Natalie Becker, for instance. Rather southeast Asian in appearance. I can bring to mind at least 2 coloured guys I often see on my train home who you'd swear were East Asian. P.S. Nobody's mistaken me for "Chinese" since then, though.
@@mnmeskc848 Also true. People often can't tell the difference between Coloureds and Indians. Case in point Tamaryn Green, Tatum Ksshwar and Tarryn Wyngaardt are often thought to be Indian
Can't say were you are now but if you ever visted NYC Marco I suggest if you don't speak any Spanish that you brush up on some, because Boricuas might talk to you in Spanish. lol
I heard that South African coloured people are the most mixed people in the world
Yep we are, most coloureds are mostly of a European/Sub Saharan African Bantu mixture, many has strong African Hunter Gatherer genes, and in my case being Cape Malay, we have a lot of Asian genes, ranging mainly from South East and South Asia, but also a lot of North Africa and West Asia, with some Native American peppered in.
a.) You say "black" like that's one single, undifferentiated thing. Our "black" ancestry includes a number of African ethnicities. Usually, it's both local indigenous Khoekhoe and a variety East African lineages. Our enslaved East African ancestors were involved in the same Indian Ocean trade networks that supplied slave labour to Brazil, the Gulf, Arabian Peninsula, India, etc. Most were from southeastern Bantu-speaking peoples, but others came from further north up into the Horn of Africa. Most of the remaining enslaved continental Africans were West and Central African (Benin, Nigeria, Guinea, Senegal, Angola) and further minority arrived from slave societies in the Arab/Persian world as indicated by toponymic surnames given them, like "van Persie", "van Arabie", "van Abyssinia".
b.) Most of us can expect to have as much Asian (South and Southeast) than European ancestry, if not more. After continental East Africans, a variety of South Asian ethnicities (e.g. Bengali, Tamil, Malayali) made up the largest cohort (~25%) of enslaved people under Dutch colonial rule. The people with origins in the Indonesian archipelago proper accounted for a little over a fifth of all enslaved labourers, while a handful came from mainland Indo-China and the southern Philippines. The third most common place of origin for enlsaved people was Madagascar (another ~25%) who already represent an admixed population of primarily ancestral Indonesians and continental East Africans
c.) Of course, all populations are ancestrally mixed. Many peoples know that historical minorities that they've absorbed or assimilated into the dominant population. The interesting thing about coloured South Africans, even when compared to other recently founded slave descendant population like those in the Americas, is not only how diverse, but how "balanced" the intercontinental ancestral admixture is on average. Individual variation within group notwithstanding, no single identifiable ancestral component can be said to be unequivocally dominant compared to any of the others.
@@ITSKSMTC DNA studies shows the average South African coloured is mixed with at least 4 different groups, which makes us the most mixed people on earth. We literally descend from every continent besides Antarctica
@@ITSKSMTC are you South African
Very true I'd really like to do one of these tests. My mother's side is African, British, Dutch and Filipino. Dad's side is African and Polish Jew. And that's only me tracing back as far as my great great grandparents and the limited information I have. My two great grand fathers have one parent with roots in Saint Helena which is known for Britain's slave trade so who knows where my other African ancestors came from. I also have a rare surname which actually from Cote d'ivoire. No idea how it got here
Marco is humanity in a small capsule
Cape Colored, I love it!
Wow, so international. You are the future brother. Crazy part is the he’s only 0.1% hunter gatherer and yet most cape coloured people will claim to be Khoisan? I’ve watched pretty much all the TH-cam videos of coloured people and they’re very similar. Very little hunter gatherers. I wanna get the test for my husband from who’s from CT but I’ll feel really bad because I get the feeling that he’ll have to rethink his identity:(
Absolutely true. Post apartheid and it seems like the South African Coloured identity is all over the place. Theres alot of negative connotations linked to the word Coloured these days so people are distancing themselves from the word and the community more than before. Hence you get people who look mixed claiming to be black khoisan etc
Fadiel Benjamin everyone deserves to know who they are and to be able to identify as such with confidence. Breaks my heart that some people literally have no idea at all
If you remember Elizabeth Warren claimed to be native American when she wasn't, coloured people go through something similar
Yes the allusions to hunter-gatherer ancestry gets "over-mythologized" among some Coloured people.
The Xhosa and Tswana are quantitatively more likely to be the descendants of ancient hunter-gatherers. Also visibly evident in the high cheekbones, epicanthic eyes and clicks in the languages of many black South Africans.
@@agrid2608 yet people like to disconnect Bantus from the Khoisan
Cool results from both of you
Thanks for sharing! Marco has very interesting look and it is hard to pinpoint his ancestry origin. Wow, really analyzing diverse results.
Zen looks very Filipino to me. The broadly results mean part your dna data do not completely match the particular genetic markers. It does not mean you have Native American ancestry or more Chinese ancestry. It may be still including the South East Asian ancestry. Someday 23andme may be able to pinpoint more specific results.
All asians have native american ancestry haha look it up im 100% native american
Damn, that south African mix 👍🏼 cool
For Marco, Northwestern Europe could also mean Dutch
Amazing 😮
German and French are close together in geography and I heard it's considered about the same. I have that too and Irish and British is put together, well it's the British Isles, I guess. Yeah you are very mixed in South Africa similar to those of us who are of Hispanic heritage. Our history covers, Africa (mostly west), European, Asia, Central European Jews and Spanish Jews, and Amerindians, most of the contitents. Yet, Hispanics represent mixed and less mixed populations depending on the country as some of us are basically, African or European, or Amerindian. But most are a blend of generational mixing similar to South Africans.
I am sure Marco's are the most mixed results I've seen thus far.
I think shes got him beat th-cam.com/video/kaWTAnVOo88/w-d-xo.html
Marco why weren't you excited by with your African results?
He is African.He's excitement stems from being associated with more exotic groups from elsewhere.Speaking here as a Cape Coloured.
I noticed that too...
Awe ma se kind Awe!
Marco looks like my Dominican 🇩🇴 friend, and he found out he is 50.3% African, 28 Iberian, and the rest native American
Right. In NYC many Dominicans and Boricuas would talk to him in Spanish.
I wonder what the update says
Your Filipino girlfriend looks Cape Coloured
Kinda, more specifically cape malay (austronesian group who are somewhat related to filipinos). The average cape coloured looks more intermediate between khoe/san and west eurasians, or intermediate between SSAs and west eurasians.
No she dont.
She looks Chinese.
@@f19ure Are you Coloured? She doesn't even really look Cape Malay either. But if she were in Cape Town my first thought would be Chinese.
@Carey Queen
To be fair, I was called "Chinese" by other coloured children when I was in creche. It's not like there are no coloured people who are unambiguously Asian/African/European-looking according to common stereotypes. Look at someone like Natalie Becker, for instance. Rather southeast Asian in appearance. I can bring to mind at least 2 coloured guys I often see on my train home who you'd swear were East Asian.
P.S. Nobody's mistaken me for "Chinese" since then, though.
@@mnmeskc848 Also true. People often can't tell the difference between Coloureds and Indians. Case in point Tamaryn Green, Tatum Ksshwar and Tarryn Wyngaardt are often thought to be Indian
The Asian is quite visible my friend, I actually thought you were Blasian.
Just found your channel
Can't say were you are now but if you ever visted NYC Marco I suggest if you don't speak any Spanish that you brush up on some, because Boricuas might talk to you in Spanish. lol
Well that settles that!
She is 100 percent mangyan tribe from mindoro
South Africa 😆
Are you guys married?
You seemed very sad when reading the African DNA in comparison to your other ancestry.
It is different in SA...but it is due to the colonizers.....
Lol! Eligible for the Balut eating contest.
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Your ancestors maybe Xhosa cool.
Yall some sheep