I Just Ruined Mullet's $50,000 Engine...
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Well guys we fired off the Sick Summer "drag n drive" with a GREAT run, but that quickly came to a hard stop. Mullet gathered up a bunch of issues and threw them right at us on only day 1 of Sick Summer.
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You know it cleet!!!
I'm sure its not everyone but I waited forever for my raycon impact earbuds. Didnt last 2 days. Love ya Cleet but raycon isnt more then a paying sponsor in my opinion.
Another day another cleeter video
Love yall brothers.
Where's rocky?
Hopefully getting that spare 540 big block
Steve morris never ceases to amaze me. Dude will show up at anytime and stand behind his product. So much respect for that man
Insane mechanic stills too.
I mean when you charge $50,000-$80,000 for an engine i would expect expert customer service lol
what you guys put steves engines through is absolute torture! and they still seem to work! the problems are not because of steves engine designs, but are brought on because you guys are like that rotten kid in grade 5 that just beats the living hell out of his toys with hammers and rocks just to see if he can break stuff! well you guys are trying but that SMX is a tough piece of kit indeed!! Steve has created a well built tougher than nails engine! well done steve!! 👍👍👏👏👏👏👍👍
@@teamcarp1 The SMX is way more than $80k
Incredible engine, massive respect to Steve for creating something that not only refuses to give up but still makes power despite being seriously broken.
Cleet needs to step up his maintenance game, anything over 2000 hp needs a teardown after every event to catch this kind of stuff. For the channel, for his wallet, and for us viewers that want to see him succeed.
Sam defending himself over the brake pedal accusations and saying "you both know better than that" immediately made me think of him just absolutely sending the Marauder on the road with a car full of people.
Sam is such a legend.
Exactly what popped into my head hell cleetus was rethinking all his decisions in life just riding with him on the test drive of the truck
Yes exactly and they were telling him to lift!
Me too!!!!
😂 that smile on his face in the marauder when they all got nervous 😅
@apex9177 it's not a limiter, it's more of a suggestion box.. if the valves aren't floating, is it really a burnout?
Running a 7.61 on 7 cylinders with all that carnage is insane. A lesser engine would have let go a long time ago. SMX engine is incredible.
And Cleet then throws Steve under the bus. Despite everything being down to lack of maintenance, negligence and pure abuse.
Definitely bitched about the motor didn't he!
@steveshortt90 Even though his old brodix block was blowing up at 50-60% of the hp the SMX can take 24/7.
That was a stupid take by him and a huge insult to Steve.
Yeah I dont blame the SMX one bit
I haven't even finished the video, but I can't fathom why you would run that hurt engine. Content is the only thing I can think of.
Glad to see everybody seeing this for what it is. Your engine builder has your back, maybe you could have his. Not maintaining your vehicles is not Steve’s fault.
This is Garrett Mitchell in a nutshell.
100%
I love about 34:40 when y'all are clearly stressed as hell listening to Mullet's engine squeak...and there's Sam, doing Sam things, polishing everything in sight because it's what he does. What a guy.
The video was posted 19 minutes ago
@@johnqpublic2718 Clearly not completely watching the videos. Just scanning through.
@@mjay6245 there's also 2x speed for ADHD brains like me
Yep, he sees a smudge and must polish. It's like beavers and running water.
nervous energy gotta go somewhere.
Reading through the comments so glad to see everyone sticking up for steve.
Me to
i'm honestly a little upset with Cleetus at the end... poor sportsmanship like conduct and bashing a guy who drove from his home/shop to come fix an engine he sold you... you're never going to get the same customer service from Texas Speed...
edit: Steve drove 338 miles to fix the engine.... now if that's not customer service then idk what is... Texas Speed isn't gonna do that just my $0.02
@@davidpugh8772for a scratch and dent previously exploded engine….not a good look for ol cleeter… Steve is top notch
@@davidpugh8772 I really hope he sees the comments and sees that he made a mistake and addresses it
exactly
Don't make the mistake of ditching the SMX.. Steve has had your back through this whole thing and motor had been through hell and back and held together for you and kept you safe! Keep the SMX 🙏
On coopers channel a few months ago Cleetus said that his only real issue was that his engine and trans combo kicked him out of his old classes due to rule changes. The smx is a great platform but mullets chassis cant keep up and the smx cant make enough power reliably to overcome the chassis problems. Mullet is maxed out and he needs to go faster to be competitive in his current classes so he's building eagle to take mullets spot as the main drag car.
@@aidenchristiansen5776 it is making enough power but it is not able to put the power down to go faster because of the way the suspension is set up and also the weight of the car in general adding more power just makes it spin
@kylegoes8119 true , was a mistake on my part. Thanks for the clarification
Cant wait for eagle to take his spot tho ❤
The new car isn't even a DnD car, I'm not sure what it is even for.
Also, there is nothing wrong with the SMX, it won't be any different whether he runs a pro line or some other pro mod type power, it will still break if mistreated the same way.
The big difference is pro line or whoever isn't going to jump in a truck or plane and fly over when you break it.
I see the new car collecting dust for much of its future if they don't bother with maintaining it.
The problem is not the SMX. How can you not have 2nd gear and make so many passes and not realize it? The data was looked at repeatedly. Better maintenance/oversight = less failures.
pete seen it too
[sprays brake clean into intake] Yeah and?
I really hope Cleet reads the comments and rethinks through this after time with his family. A new SMX is the ticket, not going back to a big block. He bought an R&D scratch and dent special and has absolutely beat the brakes off it, then decided to rev it to the moon, and run it on 7 cylinders with two of the cylinders having broken main caps and a wiped Cam shaft, and the Chad motor still ran a 7.6 twice... Steve Morris is a damn good man, and a giant in the engine builder arena while still making house calls to support his customers and friend. Going a different path would be a slap in the face to his friend and just the wrong decision technically. If he goes a different direction, it will be the absolute first time I'll have disagreed with a decision he's made public. Not that my opinion matters, but this one just shocks me.
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He's not getting rid of the smx because it keeps breaking due to neglect. The problem is with mullets chassis and suspension, it cant put down the power the smx makes. Not to mention that the smx forced him in to a higher class and mullet just isn't competitive in that class. He needs a different engine to match what the chassis is capable of because atm the smx is too much for mullet to handle.
@@aidenchristiansen5776 U sure a smaller, bur still larger than 427 engine would allow him into a different class? I thought once you go big block, you're in the big boy classes regardless of engine size
@Anderson_999 I'm not familiar with the specific rules, I just remember Garrett talking about it on coopers channel and on this channel before specifically about the smx.
@@Anderson_999 I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the billet engine.
Cleet make sure you guys are using a shielded cable for your drive shaft speed sensor, my drive shaft data looked exactly the same, then I ran a shielded cable right from the sensor to the Holley, and grounded the shielding on the Holley -5V rail and now the data is clean.
This 100% gotta run shielded cable
It was a stereo problem with older ignition systems.
Quality cable for sensitive Signal wires
Absolutely! Also make sure the drain wire is connected on only one side like you said otherwise you can end up with a ground loop. I deal with issues like this from EMI that VFDs generate. It will cause all kinds of crazy readings on speed sensors because they are looking for a rising and/or falling edge so any noise is assumed to be a pulse.
Agreed, all of those low voltage hall effect sensors need to be shielded because the smallest amount of noise is huge relative to the signal strength.
I see how hard y'all work. But Steve Morris still showing up means he's totally invested in his engine. That dude is a giant among men. Hats off to you Steve. And congrats for an awesome video of what real friends look like. Great job fellas.
The look of absolute disappointment on his face when he sees those main caps. That's his baby, despite not being in his car. He's devastated this happened to Cleet.
I love that he is so willing to learn about his own creation and learn from every failure and almost always improves. I have no doubt this motor will be coming back at some point
I have never left a negative comment on Cleet's channel but I will have to tonight . Cleet admitted two days of testing at least without second gear , who knows how long it's really been out if you can test for two days and not realize you have no second gear . Showed 9500+ rpm for one run so you can figure it did that in everyone since they can't be bothered to figure out the drive shaft speed sensor on the "Rife" sensors car . Steve Morris is so busy at work he didn't even compete in an event he has a very good chance of winning , drops everything to come to the rescue , even gives his blessing to run it on 7 cylinders . Mullet runs a 7 on 7 cylinders twice and drives to the next event . Then for Cleetus to get up on a high horse and rant about the SMX just blew my mind . Steve Morris is a legend ,and so is the SMX . Sorry , not sorry A little more respect was in order .
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Have to agree, maybe didn't realise how it came across, but the engine failure was 100% his fault.
Yup. Under perfect conditions at that level of drag & drive 50 full passes and 1,000 street miles rebuild is part of regular maintenance. It's not a 200k mile program lol. They did a ton of passes in practice with massive amounts of mistakes. Definitely wasn't aluminum vs iron block. He forgets how much faster and harder he's pushing this setup vs old. Did he even go 6s on the only setup? His new Camaro will be finished soon. He should've waited to announce Camaro will be 6s and Mullet reverts back to 7s. Now that I think of it. He did already say it in a previous video so no need to make it sound so dramatic.
Let's not forget Cleetus did a burnout in Mullet as well, and all they thought of it was ruining the tires. I'm sorry but they're really hard on these cars that people would pour their heart and souls into, and they just seem to break everything. It can't be the cars. Every race car they have they have to overbuild and still they destroy engines and transmissions. It may speak to many things about how they treat their cars, but primarily must include a maintenance program several levels more serious than what they do. It sure doesn't help that they do 100 other things month to month,. You can't just turn on race mode and jump back into 7 and 6-sec cars and try to win events.
Not to mention the massive discount he got on it, as it was literally out of Steve’s personal car. Race engines need maintenance, not just fresh oil
That engine had all odds pointing against it running, with that carnage inside, but yet it ran a 7.6x time twice on 1 cyl down. The amount of forces inside that engine trying to split it up and it still ran all the way to the disassembly, just prove that you can't fault the SMX. Props to Steve to actually show up and stand by his product. WOW
the fact the SMX went 7.60s on 7 cylinders while the main cap was probably broken is truly a testament to how durable that engine is. also the fact Cleet was the first one to break that main cap is impressive in it self. if you want engines durability tested, call cleet lol. if there is a weak link, he'll find it.
Compared to what Steve did to the block when he ran that motor and all the pistons and rods turned into aluminum gravel and the inside of the block looked like a bomb had gone off. It's a miracle that he fixed it up and it has performed like it has!
@TheBibliofilus All he did was try new con rods and they were too weak and they exploded under load.
Its a metal block that costed 10k plus usd it better be durable.
@@GoldAk47 my brother in christ, the SMX is probably closer to $60k to $70k if he bought a brand new one from Steve Morris. this was a scratch and dent special. if he only paid $10k for it, it would be a bargain
@@SpeedyManCharles actually, Cleet made a deal with Steve for this block, getting an undisclosed cut in return for helping Steve's channel get to 100k subscribers, IIRC. That $10k might not actually be all that far off of what he actually paid for it
*After watching the whole video, and reading all of the comments... That engine is top of the line, and Steve Morris deserves all of the praise he's been given!*
100% cleets responsible for not taking care of the motor after he broke it over and over again. Props too steve.
donut burnouts, tyre shake, cracked welds,traction control engaged all the time, sensor shorting, missing 2nd gear (missed by everyone either driving it or tuning it for who knows how long), not proactive maintenance (at least from what we see),lifters out, reving up to 9,5k rpm, 2x7sec passes on 7 cylinders.....that engine deserves a medal....***EDIT i just rewatched the passes and on the first 7 cylinder pass, holley blacks out so there are more issues with the car at 42min....
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Exactly, if anyone is to blame it's Cleetus' and his team
Agree , entertainment is one thing but maybe hire a behind the scenes manager, for fleet management preventative maintenance someone really OCD , behind the scenes so he is not obligated to anything social media
I'm starting to wonder if engine builders will find it worth the potential trouble getting involved with this channel??? It's one thing to push a motor to It's limits but there's a point where blowing one up for clicks may not be a good business decision for a motor builder??? Im thinking the day is coming where they are going to have to have an in house builder/tuner...
@@chrisjohnson4666 Given Cleet's propensity for breaking stuff, seeing things actually last as long as they do is free marketing, really. I mean, the fact that an SMX can cruise around on 7 cylinders and two broken main caps and only complain slightly when running full send down the drag strip... Also the fact that this is the first time someone managed to break Steve Morris' billet main caps...
Really hope Cleet sticks it out with Steve. Steve has always been there for him in heartbeat. He’s a good man with a good heart.
Why are you trying to flog a dead dog the sm engines aren't serving the purpose and are made of toffee.
Plenty of other engine builders that can build a big power and reliable engine.
@@FouldsMouldsLtduntil Cleet gets of hold of them 😆 then they all blow up
Agree I hope he does to
@@FouldsMouldsLtd Or maybe the customers of other engine builders don't rev their shit to a bajillion rpm and actually maintain them properly?
Seems to be the first one with broken main caps 🤔
When you run shit at 120% of its potential stuff breaks.
Dude an SMX is going in the 69 camaro for Sure
Steve Morris is the man.
The patience he displayed and willingness to help really shows how good of a guy Steve is. Truly impressive and majorly respectable.
The disappointment and frustration on his face when he saw those main caps was intense. There's something else going on with mullet that's hurting the engine, or just Garrett not doing what he needs to to make sure it survives.
@@onefastgmc
Plenty of Steve’s engines out there running strong. This is on Garrett and his team.
Steve reminds me of a former boss of mine. Unbeknownst to me, the blow molding machines we were rebuilding were worth millions of dollars, and he took great offense to how previous millwrights had treated the parts. Big respect for Steve and his restraint over how the crew beat on this engine.
7 Cylinders and ran a 7 Second Pass. A testament to Steve Morris and his products!!!!
really.....
@@Nismo-gy3wzyeah. Did you not watch the video? This is 100% on Garrett. Having no second gear and sending it hard, isn't exactly easy on any race motor.
He was agreeing, not questioning.
@@jeffhutchison3480looks to me cleetus crashed this motor just in time for his new and faster ride. Coincidence? Why would you rerun your vehicle when it went a 7 while down a cylinder
He blew it up on purpose
Cleetus, you're being too hard on that engine (and I'm a 99.9% Ford nut swinger). Any V7 that runs an ET of 7.61@201 after being OVER-REVED as a V8, to 9500 due to a trans failure, is going above and beyond the call of duty !!!
That was originally Steve's personal engine that had thrown a rod through the side of the block and been rewelded. The fact that it's held together this long with the abuse it's seen is a testament to just how well engineered and built these engines are.
Yep. We can all speculate, but cleeter is hard on equipment.. Doesn't matter too much when the video pays for it afterwards I guess.. Not hating at all, I love watching it!
It’d be easy to dog Garrett when a Brett LaSala’s stock block Ford keeps waxing him in events… because, you know, it’s a Ford.
But the real difference between the two is Brett is taking apart the car after major events. Checking for cracked welds and parts wear. Rebuilding and inspecting the engine every year. Constantly combing through data from 29-30 sensors monitoring the chassis, shocks, trans, turbos, engine, etc.
Garrett and his guys just don’t have that kind of time to commit to one single car
Does anyone know what the max amount of runs is on the smx 🤔
@@anthonygibbo1881 No one knows exactly, but top fuel dragsters are tearing their engines apart after every pass.. This is a motor making 3k hp in a heavy ass car, and they wouldn't of even known if the main cap was broke if steven didn't come..
Cleet and the boys have got to own this one. Lack of the maintenance and checks required for an engine of that level. Complete an a-z checklist every 2 passes minimum no exceptions. Look at the other 3 Smx cars doing serious numbers with little drama.
Yeah a real lack of maturity with the "we didn't do anything to maintain this, then beat on it with 7 cylinders, now it blew up, so it's time for a change because we should win every event"
texas speed found that out.
pete harrel is in the process of finding it out
It is good to get in business with garret initially, but their mentality in the shop as far as being able to maintain that level of drive train is..... far below the requirement.
Yup. His team isn't a race team. It's a bunch of good guys doing multiple different projects and their own stuff thrown in. Since cleet isn't a "pro" racer type, his shop can't survive on that type of content
@cleetus read the reddit artice about this video. You killed the engine from your lack of maintenace. TLDR: You drove it missing a gear in the trans, the tires from the burnout pit,and the traction control pulling timing ( Steve litteraly has a video about this). The lifter got stuck becuase you dont maintain mullet. Wiring issues becuase you guys have not worked on it in months. I enjoy the month of freeedom as much as everyone else but YOU killed that engine but just rushing shit again. The suspension is screwed up on McFlurry but you decided to test it the day before leaving when you made a bunch of changes. But you got the blower on Sam's truck! You are about to build a 6 second car with a even more expensive engine that you will do the same thing as mullet and not work on the thing. Hire someone to work on these cars like the Crown Vics or actually schedule the maint on them. I love this channel and everything you do but you need to take this shit as serious as you do about flying. Mullet will kill you if you dropt he crank at 220mph.
Mentality comes down to too many dollars and not enough scense....
@@TheScottib1 Yeah he is on the "blame everyone else for everything" tour again.
Lol 😂 why do you care so much what he does with his cars??? Are ypu paying for the new engine? You think Steve really cares all that much when someone blows up one of his engines? He just gets to sell them a rebuild or new one, it's called job security. Lol it cracks me up that you guys act as if Cleet is running and blowing up their engine. And when you guys build a car that can complete with Cleet, you will start to understand how often things break, even right after they were just tested and maintained.... lol 😂
@@TheMiraldi Alot of us are tired of him blaming everyone else for the stuff blowing up when we have video evidence of him being the cause. Eveyone is aware that steve told him to just drive it one 7. The problem is how the engine ended up in that state. And in a way yes i am paying for everything he does thru my watching the videos and buying the merch. Does he have to listen to me? No. But i do have the right to express my opinion. Free country and all that shit.
Don't forget that SMX in Mullet has already been scattered into pieces when it was Steve's motor in his car. It has lived quite the life. And honestly is a testament to Steve and his SMX motors.
Problem is it’s not just that smx having issues they all are even ones with meticulous maintenance
@@54racemanreally? What other people are having problems with there smx?
@@54racemanwho else has had issues? And being the first main cap he's seen break on an SMX, I'd bet it can be linked to the wagon blowing to pieces last year. Hairline crack that propagated unknowingly
Who else has scattered smx engines?
Tom hasn’t finished a event in years,steve has finished like 1,ned has blown his apart multiple times in the less than a year he’s had it and can’t remember the name of the guy didn’t even survive testing before his brand new one came apart
Man, I am super disappointed hear Cleetus say this is a SMX problem. This is purely a lack of maintenance issue, as seen by that wiped out cam shaft lobe. Mullet is heavy and needs to be treated like a real race car and have a semi strip down after every major event.
At minimum the sump off to check for cracks and bolts, rockers out and inspected, borescoped cam and cylinders. Trans pulled and checked also, along with full fluid replacement.
But for some reason, Mullet runs a event and is then parked and tested 2 days before the next major event only to discover the damage from the previous race and then blame the engine?
Well said
He didn't say it was a SMX problem...... Infact he said it wasn't a SMX issue! He knows it's a "trying to push the chassis too fast!" problem..... He's saying that it's time to dial it back, go slower and have fun again!
If he isn't going to push the envelope then there is zero reason to run the SMX. Of course he's disappointed he's going home day 2, he mentioned that they blew the Big Block, then blew a trans and the SMX twice in the last 4 drag and drives and had to go home........ The chassis is just not what he wants it to do! He's pushing ~4000hp and getting beat up by others with ~3000!
Without a doubt they turned that car around way too fast and didn't do the due diligence after the abuse he subjected it to in Indy. I doubt Eagle is getting a SM built engine as I believe they are planning on more power than anything (I know of anyway) that SM currently builds!
Ripping donuts then running those same tires down the track was a much bigger idiotic move than I think Cletus truly realized too!
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024To be fair, he does say they have had a lot of bad luck with that engine and that they knew it was a scratch and dent sale. So definitely feels like he's blaming it a bit.
To me it just feels like he's been put off the SMX due to his own neglect. A 10 minute sump drop would of found that cracked main cap. Same goes for the roller rockers and all the other issues this motor has had.
But i agree with everything else you said.
I'm pretty intrigued to see what engine Eagle will run. I also agree it won't be running a SM engine. I originally thought a Ford engine, since the car will be much lighter. But who knows!
@@inedibleatom iirc the first time it blew was because it was a “scratch and dent” engine?
@@inedibleatom if it was to be running a Ford engine, why would it be getting mocked up with a BBC block in it? 🤔
Steve's facial expressions upon tear down are so "Dad is trying to not yell at us for being idiots" such crazy carnage!
Nah his video last night was basically telling them to send it, he predicted a 6.90 on 7
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@@TheLazyGeistwasn't that pete? I thought pete was helping tune it, Steve just built the engine
@@TheLazyGeist Wasn't it Pete? x2
@@TheLazyGeist Wrong!
man i understand frustrations being on the road, but this one is absolutely on y'all. that SMX *carried* in a way that most engines would have just thrown rods through the block. Steve deserves his flowers for the level of professionalism and care he puts into everything he touches, this was absolutely user error (if the first ever broken maincap is anything to go by)
i'ma be honest, if y'all get an actual good checklist system of full teardown preventative maintenance going for that SMX, she'll take you close to 5's. and it'll be a great jumping off point for Eagle when you finally get behind the wheel on that beast
Moving away from the SMX will be a bad decision, not only is it a great engine but you get 100% support from the person who builds them for you. But a new block from Steve and start again, look at all his other customers who bought new SMX blocks and haven’t had one issue.
For Mullet I do not think it is a bad decision. Mullet is too heavy for this type of power. Since he went to the SMX, Mullet has done nothing but eat engines and transmissions. They have stripped the car down in weight all they can. Take it back to the big block where mullet was at its peak and wait for the new build from CJRC to get the power and speed he wants.
The problem is that to get such a big heavy monster of a car down the track hard, cleetus is running the SMX at the same sort of power levels almost every run that the other guys are running as the end of the week, hail mary passes.
It's been coming for a while now, but pushing the elco to low 6s just isn't working. They're killing parts that you don't kill until you're in the 5s.
Put a cheaper engine in there that doesn't matter if it pops and let the elco live its life as a 7.50 car where it's happy.
@@lilbitofjoy6130 valid point, but look at some of the other customers running the SMX, including Steve himself in the wagon, it has come down to poor maintenance on Cletus part and not doing enough preventative maintenance, that engine requires a lot of up keep at that power level but you hardly see them removing the oil pan to check over things. Keep the SMX but do more maintenance and you’ll be fine!
Alan’s car is over 4000 pounds and so is Clark’s I believe.. both w/ an SMX
@@Eastauckland92 exactly and that’s how you learn… hopefully so, they have some in the industry standing behind them right now.. hopefully it was more of an emotional decompression aaaaand, more horsepower per cubic against the more stuff breaks.. that’s just how it is.. hope they realize that.. going away from an SMX is definitely not a good decision
Worked on top alcohol stuff for a long time and people would be running the same product/engines as somebody else, but still would be blowing things up constantly and others would not, and they would go from brand to brand to brand from manufacturer to manufacturer and nothing would change because their program and maintenance didn’t change w/ it..
I’m pretty sure between the guys on the crew and Steve and all those guys talking amongst themselves there’s no way this can’t can’t get brought up to between them (maintenance)
Shout out to Steve Morris for coming out, you are the man Steve!
He really is
You act like he had much of a choice when the most famous car with a specialized engine for a extremely small portion of drag racing that you bet everything you have on repeatedly fails it don’t matter if you’re on your honey moon you make dust immediately
@@54raceman Steve doesn't have to do anything. Just cause its Cleetus car doesn't matter at all. He's just a stand up guy. There are way more famous cars/individuals in the drag racing community running other top of the line engines and those companies wouldn't have done what Steve did. They'd say thats racing. Pull it out and send it in for a refresh
@@54raceman You're confused if you think Steve has to answer to Cleet .
@@54racemanUr lost buddy 😂😂😂😂 Damn
Man I feel bad for Steve. You know hes feeling the weight of all this and you can see it on his face. It hurt my soul when cleetus said "maybe we need to go back to the big block". The SMX is an incredible engine. Big block also blew up. Maybe they need to lower the rev limiter to where Steve wants it and pay more attention to the data logs.
Big block will make more exciting videos where you don't have to do an expensive dig into the engine to find the damage. SMX will just make faster passes.
Isn't the SMX a big block?
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024 iirc Smx is a full custom design that was designed by Steve, I believe it uses different parts and ideas from a bunch of different engines
@@commonsenseisdeadin2024yeah but has a lot more motor work done compared to the old ones they were using back when the car made like 2600 vs the 3500+ now
@@heckin_dinosawsmx is just a ripped off allen johnson 481x with water passages added and couple headbolt holes slightly moved to clear water passages steve didn’t design the smx he paid to have the 481x copied and modified to have water passages
I would be sad to see the Eagle with anything other than SMX power.
Y’all are hard as hell on stuff, it is what it is. I think blaming the engine or even saying “we’ve had a lot of issues with it” is wildly disrespectful. Steve Morris Engines FTW
There is a forum thread somewhere where with all the SMX failure rates on drag and drive events, most are valve/lifter issues destroying the engines.
Some D&D people switch back to Brodix or just BB builds, cheaper than SMXs every event.
It’s fairly high tbh.
@@MidnightMotion_Racing Fair enough! Im not that well educated on it TBH. Thanks for sharing!
Cant fault Steve. Mechanical stuff breaks, especially at the high horsepower levels and abuse Mullet sees. Steve is a boss!
I think moving away from that SMX is a step backwards.
It's broken because you broke it Cleet! Running with a valve train issue on 7 cylinders @ 40psi... Any other engine would have blown up.
Bit of an insult to Steve too to be fair.
If this turns into some goofy sponsored change to a different engine builder / buying part ownership in an engine builder will be super disappointing. Throwing Steve under the bus seems fake / weird / unnecessary.
Exactly. I was quite shocked by the ending. They should do some self-reflection instead of taking stabs at Steve. SMX engines have proven to be great and reliable engines. Yet they need to be taken seriously. Continous inspection. Which also includes the transmission. To me it seems like it's been biggest problem in all the breakdowns. Anyways... we'll see how this unfolds. Probs to Steve Morris for showing up immediately once again.
Y'all are taking this way to serious to think cleet would move away from smx I don't understand why everyone so butthurt all of sudden get a grip it's not that damn deep
@@DesertEagleDutch That isn’t what it was at all. Cleet could have done a better job explaining himself, but yall are also taking what he said out of context. What he meant was the SMX isn’t the correct platform for Mullet, and he’s 100% correct. He can’t even take advantage of all the power this engine has on tap becuz the damn el camino chassis can’t put the power down without blowing the tires off. They struggle to get under 1.17 60 fts, which is a joke to this engine. Mullet 100% needs a new platform, whereas the new Camaro would be a perfect fit for an SMX.
I Imagin the vibrations in the engine were horrific!
Steve for the win here.
SMX’s are Beasts, but nothing can withstand torture for too long.
Even while broken, the SMX ran 7.61 and Still held together.
Like I said, Steve for the Win here!..
There's no conceivably possible way I would have continued that trip with that car after discovering that seized lifter, it would have been trailered home and rebuilt immediately.
P.S. - Do NOT drop a big block in that, REPLACE the SMX with ANOTHER SMX!!
Also, start doing PROPER MAINTENANCE CHECKS on Mullet AFTER EVERY EVENT, drop the pan, pull the intake, yank the valve covers, change the oil and filter, INSPECT EVERYTHING!
Don't even blame SMX for your piss-poor maintenance Cleet, this one is 100% ON YOU.
1000%
Sending the engine out to 9500 pass after pass with the broken 2nd gear likely wasn't doing the durability any favors. I am more impressed that with 7 cylingers, 2 busted lifters, a wiped out cam lobe and 2 broken main caps it still ran mid 7s twice before driving itself 100 miles to a shop to check it out. The way it has held together appears to have made fixing it up a minor inconvenience compared to what it could have been if it failed in a louder more spectacular/sudden fashion and was totally wrecked.
Steve actually said in his video it should have still run 6.80s on 7 lol I think it would have it it could build boost on the line
Nah I can't believe he actually went to the front desk about the elevator certs 😂😂
They are supposed to have them listed and or available to view. If the state or osha came in they would have been shut down the elevator without the cert lol
@jessiewarmbrodt8128 😂 they dang sure will. Someone take the plate down at the hospital and it caused a whole big ordeal
I have seen him do it at least 3 times on video over the last few years of drag weeks 😂
it’s not the first time he’s done that either 😭
but seriously, elevators are notoriously safe becaise of tight rules. the elevator union guys don't mess around.
How that engine survived on 7 cylinders running 2 x 7sec passes at over 200mph and completing a drive is beyond believe. It's a true testament to the craftsmanship of the SMX and Steve as a engine builder had it been any other engine your rods would have been waving to the ground via the new window in the block or pan. That engine can not only handle abuse and lack of maintenance but can do it with a fucking smile. Well done Steve that is one hell of a product you have there!
They should not have run it. Achieved absolutely nothing and ruined an engine chasing clout.
don't forget it's not an SMX, it's a BBC w/ some of the SMX parts, but not a true SMX
@@aae42nice try bud.
@@aae42 it's a full fat SMX my guy
@@diambo4life yes and no. They ran it to try stay in the running of sick week. They did not know the main cap was shot to shit. Steve told them to run it on 7 as he did not know the extent of the damage and was confident enough that it would not hurt the motor running it on 7.
Man, the wiring burning on the carbon fibre, running without second gear and not even realising, keeping the burnout tyres on…that can’t happen with Eagle. Gotta maintain these cars and take them seriously, it’s not Ruby and Leroy anymore man, you’re flirting with your life. Someone needs to thoroughly check over the cars before and after every event at this level. I’d hate to see the worst happen, you’ve got two beautiful kids, a wife, and a plan for the future that I look forward to being along for the ride for.
Please be safe guys
Sam is freaking amazing... "Can you believe this, here I am 150 years old on my birthday week being able to come out here and do this". With a big smile on his face just puts a big smile on my face! Keep it up boys I love all the content you put out.
I lost it when he said that 🤣
That was hilarious
Love ya, Garrett, you know I do. Gotta say it though- you're running pro mod times with the maintenance approach for a 12 second car. The issue isn't the engine or driveline- it's your program bro. The Eagle will yield similar results unless you get way more sophisticated in your program. I speak as the former co-owner of a top alcohol rail.
Yup, needs a top fuel maintenance approach for those hemi style engines 👌
I know absolutely nothing about what it takes to run a team, drive one of these machines, or work on them. Would it be cost effective for him to just replace engines instead of chasing the program for his maintenance? If the title is true, I would imagine a maintenance regiment and more staff would be more costly for Cleetus. And most of all, hot swapping a prepared motor when it breaks, takes so much less time than constantly rebuilding motors. Again I know nothing, but the time and money for the motor is either close to or equal to the time and labor for full racing team maintenance. Would love your thoughts
@@tylerwest2666 Great questions. Short answer: Five times more expensive. Also, Garrett isn't competing in a series, just individual events, even if some of them last a week. Winning a series requires top finishes week after week against a tight field. A pro maintenance program makes all the difference. An additional thing- throwing a crank or rod through the side of a block at 200+ mph can end badly from fire and oiling the back tires.
@@neilreid9005 Swapping engines all the time would be five times more expensive than having a professional maintenance program? Or the other way round? I'm confused because I don't have the slightest idea about wages in the u.s. and can only guess the price of an engine like the smx (70k - 100k I guess?)
@@Harry_Gersack I think he said right around 50k? Don't quote me on that but anyway. You'd have to think even adding someone to the team at 50k a year, that can really add up. If you ask me he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place. Especially with his purpose built car almost done. Id say run the fast events with the new car and put the regular big block back in the mino to run drag n drive. But hey who the hell am I right?
This whole video just goes to show how badass that SMX engine really is, multiple 9k rpm runs and all that breakers is a lifter, and then it goes and does a 7.6, what a well built and well engineered engine
Did you finish the video? Broke a lot more than a lifter..
@@lirwin89 all 4k hp engines break. Ide be interested in knowing how up to date mullets maintenance via Steve was. Ide say it was due.
Not to mention cleetus doing donut burnouts, then vibrating the living hell out of it running those messed up tires down the track when he was preparing for this sick week. I'd say it's 100% cleetus fault, and i love the guy but he's kinda dumb sometimes with more money than brains occasionally lol. Pretty sure other guys with the smx probably aren't doing what damaging things cleetus does. I REALLY hope he takes a lot better care of Leroy and the new Camaro race cars
@@lightning1896 And running it multiple runs banging on the traction control the whole run. Steve did a video a bout how bad that exact thing is a while back.
@@lightning1896 He won't. He gets a wild hair and just thrashes them all. Probably for the shock value to boost views.
Steve Morris drives 4 hours to help you out, takes apart an engine that you admitted to abusing, and then you have the audacity to say that you might drop his engines? WHAT. THE. FUCK?
I normally support just about everything you and the Freedom crew do. But that's just doing Steve dirty right there, especially after all the support he's given you over the years.
The big part of the problems you're having with engines is not doing proper maintenance before/during/after a big event or drag races. You run an engine on multiple passes, take it on long events, then put it away. No oil changes, spark plug changes, minor/major rebuilds. You're riding the horse hard and putting it away wet. That's on you, and no one else.
Maybe he wont drop steve's engines and just use the old bigblock from steve too
Steve Morris is a legend. The SMX engine is a beast!
100%! A 7second pass on that is crazy🔥
The fact that Steve blew all the rods on his SMX and was able to rebuild the engine with very little rework and still make 4,000hp is a testament to its design and build quality. Had that been a cast iron block, it would have shattered into a million pieces! How is able to still run 7's on 7 cylinders AND with broken main caps is mind blowing! I know Steve will have that engine back up and running in the 6's in a flash. Sick Summer may be over for Mullet, but it will be running before June comes to an end.
Cleetus, this isn't a smx issue! This is a maintenance issue. You and your crew are great! but this motor needs regular routine maintenance. You haven't announced what engine supplier your using in eagle, but its going to need every 12-15 pass regular maintenance.
This engine hasn’t even been making it that many before for needing to go back to steve for major issues turned down in mullet
Ya it's a fresh rebuild. But it seems like it has similar failure rates as the LS.
@@54raceman its not just engine maintenance, its whole car maintenance. Tire shake, repeated 9k+ RPM 1-3 shifts, bad traction control, and bad ignition system can scatter any other engine pretty quick. then he went and did a 7 sec pass on 7 cylinders lol who knows how long that things been hurt.
@@ryanbernard6550 No kidding it's amazing it held up at all to that abuse.
Breaking main caps isn't a routine maintenance issue. That engine was Morris personal engine before cleetus owned it. I might add it was also grenaded( watch vid) and rebuilt before cleetus bought it. I like Morris but the Smx platform have had a lot of failures @ the 3500-4000 hp mark, I have no clue how that compares to other builders/platform in that hp range,just stating observations and facts. Sounds like cleetus is frustrated I would be willing to bet the Eagle isn't seeing g a morris/smx package. He better paint mullet Snot rocket green and put a stock block coyote engine in it. Lol
Guys it is not time for a new combo. Steve Morris has one of the best programs out there. Can't forget to mention the support you get from Steve.
he said hes staying with steve but going back to his last settup
i have to imagine Mullet's weight is an issue as well, it seems like Steve has SMX engines doing fantastic in Promods
It definitely is. Time to make it a dedicated drag and drive rig, eagle will take the reins of the 6 second (and less) car
Yes!! I dare anyone to take a 600+ cid and spin it to 9500 rpm on 40lbs of boost... Parts will go through the hood.
Cleet we love Steve and the SMX. You dont need to go back to a big block. It is time to hire a crew chef and that's what this all comes down too IMO
Running 7.61 @201mph with 2 broken main caps and a stuck lifter on 7 cylinders and it drove after on PUMP GAS!!! SMX FOR THE WIN! DO NOT PUT THAT BIG BLOCK IN MULLET. LET STEVE FIGURE IT OUT!!!!! He is the MAN!!! Plus steve customer service is second to none. WE STAND WITH STEVE AND SMX!! lol plus steve seem so sad about it, felt like i would've hugged him. Get a brand new smx and send it to the moon.
Wow!!! Mullet ran a 6.68 minus 2nd gear. That is freaking incredible. Over 9500 rpm on that SMX. Just wow. An ode to Steve Morris engines. Mullet is unreal Garrett
Steve Morris went above and beyond anybody else that I have ever seen. That guy is a legend in my book! Good job Steve. Best customer service in the business!
Team Morris!!!!!
@@roysfamily7603 always
He did. And how did Garrett repay him? Threw him under the bus at the end. All Garrett’s fault, but blames the engine.
And Cleet blames Steve for a shitty engine????
@@glenryan6569
Garrett did. Such a tool.
How you spoke on the smx at the end of the video is crazy.
Steve Morris is a hell of a guy and nobody can fault his engine building skills. I hope Cleetus stays with him!!
Rumor has it Cleetus is going with a pro-mod style Hemi for the Camaro. This was BEFORE he blew up the SMX.
The fact that many drag and drive set ups use SMX engines and complete race week after race week says a lot about Steve Morris Engines! One customer drives from Canada close to 3000 miles then completes the week and drives 3000 miles home! Tom Bailey has SMX engines in two cars and prior to the fire causing gremlins he ran 5 second passes! That engine had a catastrophic failure on Steve and because of that he gave you a huge discount, I think it’s a individual problem with that specific engine and if you get with Steve he can design a engine program tailored to Mullet! Be it a Hemi or Coyote or just a seven second conventional big block! Or pay $100,000 for a brand new SMX and enjoy the proven reliability that tons of customers are enjoying like that Green Monte Carlo that weighs more than mullet and ran a six today!
Nah. Cleet's just being stupid and doing stupid shit with the SMX. At the level the SMX performs at, it tolerates a *little* stupidity, but not what Cleet's tossing at it.
The guy from Canada has a Pontiac engine.
@@TheMrMusedEXACTLY
@@sleeperimpala2504 There's more than one guy from Canada, dipsh!t.
I know it's hindsight but if you are going to be running the engine for MUCH longer periods than you normally do, before a long event, wouldn't you pop the valve covers and drop the pan to do a quick torque check? Take the intake off and use a borescope to check the cam lobes? Or use a stethoscope to give it a close listen?
If anything this proves the reliability of the SMX. Even at 7/8ths of its total power is still runs a DEEP 7 and holds up on road driving. Steve is an absolute legend!
Steve seems to be a very nice guy. When Cleetus got sarcastic, Steve didn't know what to say or how to judge this. C'mon Cleetus you know better. This engine was abused and you also know to not run a hurt engine particular not this engine and then on 7 cylinders. Other engine builders wouldn't even come out after that crap. Get your shit together and start to focus! Still like you though. Time to pull through.
Steve is the greatest business owner! Stands by his products. Goes out of his way to be helpful always!
I hope he doesn't give up on the SMX.
SMX will probably get rebuilt and put in Eagle@@davidsnoke6733
If he didn’t he’d be overrun with negative comments.
@@davidsnoke6733the problem is the car is outclassed in terms of the rules hes got a race in. He got kicked out of his original class because he was doing so good and they complained… now he’s racing promod big tire cars that are bottom 6s- 5.90s. that’s why he’s building his new car so he can slow mullet down to a more competitive level. Don’t come at me I might be wrong.
@@crypticchris8812spot on. It wasn't supposed to be a 4000hp car.
You would be insane to move away from the smx. Steve and his engines are second to none. That would be a real slap in his face, you could clearly see he was just as much if not more so upset about it then you was....
He would still have a steve morris engine. Just not the smx. The old engine he ran was from steve morris also. SMX is a beast but also a pain in the ass. They literally can’t even work on it or swap anything without steve because only certain parts work and steve has to always bring them the parts
@@bmxican0704 He doesn't HAVE to bring them parts. He has them in stock, most of them, and they just don't buy it until they need it and they usually need it RIGHT NOW. Not 2-3 days of shipping later. The only way to make that happen is for Steve or one of his employees to hand deliver it. Cleeter could easily buy 2 of the exact same engine and have spare parts for literally anything. I mean he's literally pushing this thing to its limits every pass.
@@bmxican0704agree, if they had a full time engine person the smx is awesome. but I think a lot of the issues is mullet being a heavy arse car that forces that engine to live on the edge every second.
@@sirmonkey1985 yeah it definitely had nothing to do with spinning it 9500+rpm and then making 200mph passes on an engine that is running off load balance causing rod tensions and compression to be completely thrown off. Dealing with 7000hp compressors, I can tell you if your rod tension and compression is off on one cylinder even 4 foot wide main caps wont survive at 900rpm.
I like cleetus and the guys just as much as anybody else but you can’t really put the blame on SMX for this. It’s a beast engine. The abuse and lack of inspection/maintenance after big events takes a toll. It’s also no secret that this engine was used and went through hell and back while in this car. It’s a huge testament to Steve and his engines. I really like the relationship cleet has with Steve and the dedication Steve has to his customers, I’d really hate to see Cleetus throw that away because he made mistakes with this motor.
He needs to go a different route on this car and for the future race car “eagle ”
SMX is clearly not the answer
Got about halfway through this video and then started reading the comments. I was shocked that Garret appeared to be throwing Steve under the bus. So I skipped to the last 5 minutes. My thoughts? McFarland Racing has always been a poorly run team. They need a dedicated crew chief for each of the big boy cars. They need safety checklists (saw another screwdriver bouncing around Mullet's cockpit on the 6.68 pass). They need regular teardowns and preventative maintenance. I think Jackstand has the ability to make all that happen, but maybe it's not up to him. All that said, I didn't get the feeling Garret was throwing Steve under the bus. He took some responsibility for his improper treatment of his equipment, and he praised Steve for trying to help them. Maybe I'm wrong, and if Garrett does stab Steve in the back I'll never watch a Cleetus video again, but for now it really didn't feel like that IMO.
That's customer service the old school way. Steve dropped everything, grabbed parts n tools, drove 4 hrs to help Cleetus n the boys !! 👍
After not competing himself due to the fact that he had too much work on.
All the damage to the SMX was started during those burnouts weeks prior. Dont take a drag car to a burnout pit and maybe it would last longer. Steve said himself he's never seen a main cap cracked, you're the first guy to do donuts with his engine.
Momma know she raised a weenie?
The donuts didn’t hurt it the abuse of that burnout wasn’t as much abuse as a turned down pass to the 1/8th
@@54raceman this..only detonation causes that kind of damage. This is on the tune up, not the engine.
Steve Morris is a legend. How many engine builders would tell you to make another pass on 7 cylinders and then drive up and help you fix it. Cleet you will figure out a game plan for mullet and it will be back better than ever.
"Look how they massacred my boy" -Steve
And he still has a smile on his face.
Everybody sees the videos of cars making pass after pass, but you rarely see the trials and tribulations as close up as this. Thanks for the entertainment Cleet and crew!
You could hear the cogs turning as he seen the carnage... Was like wtf....
I think instead of changing engine platforms, they need to just be more proactive on maintenance, inspecting everything so things get caught before they get broken. It's been mentioned in countless videos about it being overdue on oil changes and whatnot.
Gonna need to do the same with whatever winds up going into Eagle as well.
true, texas speed were getting a bad name due to seeing Cleet blow them up non stop. It's more a user error and maintenance needed and not try and self tune with out even looking at half the data showing it's about to blowup being lean etc. Zac etc are great people, they aren't experinced race car pit crew people. A 4000hp capable engine needs legit experienced people on the spanners
Zach's level of care for everything, even though it's your money. Truly a man I strive to emulate
....and his perpetual shit eatin grin!!
What a crew!
You're born that way. Dude's humble and caring. Solid man.
That’s what a good employee does.
I dont believe for a second he isnt wholly invested in the team. Its not "thats a 20k trans" its a "thats our trans and it has to work!" Kinda deal
@@brvfd822 you can tell he's way more than an employee
Steve morris never ceases to amaze me. this dudes the goat. So much respect for that man
I have been a fan of both cleetus and Steves Morris YT for a many years. I think he should stay with the SMX for the drag and drive and have Steve build a billet big block for the Camaro. But I doubt Steve would want to do this after cleetus bad mouthed his SMX. I won't be surprised if Steve was sorry he sold cleetus the SMX now.
I have LOST a lot of respect for cleetus because of his comments.
And have gained respect for Steve Morris for loyalty to his customers, his taking responsibility when he should, his engine building skills. his not bad mouthing anybody, and as a family man and father.
I have watched cleetus abuse every vehicle he has and I mean EVERY Vehicle. (his plane being the exception). That is probably good for getting views on his YT channel. But it's hell on the Vehicles. And dangerous as hell when he lets it loose on public roads! I don't think cleetus has much natural mechanical ability or understanding.
If he wants to be running with the big Dogs doing 6 second passed then he needs to up his maintance game. Or just turn down the RPM and Boost on the SMX and run 8.50s. then stuff should last a long time.
I agree 💯 ....
Oh wow that SMX engine is insane.
Putting out 4000hp when it works and when several things are broken still makes a 7second pass.
Thats just a real indication how strong that engine is. Im amazed.
Also wonderful video as always!!!
Yessir Steve can sure as heck build an engine
Indeed Steve engineering is monstruous.
When he said “680 tune” I was like, ‘wait, doesn’t this thing make like 4000 horse?’ Then I realized he meant 6.80, not 680 horse 😂
Incredible that the motor refuses to give up and massive props to Steve for building these beast units, this isn't his fault.
Cleet really needs to step up his maintenance game. He's upset about parts that have been broken for an unknown amount of time but this ain't a heads/cam LS. At 4000+ hp it *needs* to be torn down and inspected after every event.
He runs the car full blast at an event, parks it with maybe an oil change, pulls it out a few days before the next race, then gets blindsided by issues that are totally preventable/fixable but didn't know because he doesn't pull it apart until after it explodes.
I love the channel, Cleet, the guys, and the cars but it hurts to see him treat his equipment this way.
@@Joebobinator That thing has a soul at this point. Too bad Cleet neglects it.
Hats off to Steve. He is a amazing person. Stands behind his stuff 💯
Cleetus: Hits the burnout pit, revs to 9500 rpm with broken second gear, pulls two 7.60 passes with a shattered lifter
SMX: *breaks*
Cleetus: surprised Pikachu face
I would not give up on the SMX cleet. Get it fixed and work out a few bugs with the car. Idk if there is anymore weight saving that can be done but. That engine just went though the hell other engines would have exploded from. Idk if going away from the SMX is the move. Steve is a hell of a guy for coming out to help and you could tell he was upset.
I’m baby shark and I approve this message 🫡
Time for a new combination
Exactly there's alot of metal and pressure being built to move that heavy body and I've seen it on this channel when a trans acts funny like that it takes the engine as well. And they just slap another 427 in. An old ag pilot told me engines reliability dissappears at 600+ hp. It's part of racing.
I agree, runnin it out to 9000+ rpms is probly what did it to the main. Think about that crank was flexin out in the middle puttin extra pressure on the caps. I would have thought that the trans issue would have been picked up readin the data logs but i guess its not something you always look at, till now.
@@leonardzielewski2744 that's why they're building the camaro
Stick with the smx and perform meticulous maintenance on it. It will definitely last and have minimal issues if it’s treated as a top tier engine. Don’t treat it like a clapped out 350 😂
That goes completely against this channel 😂 have you not seen Ruby shoved in a corner, dale truck, blue f150 now, Supra, and a bunch others. All these cars are meant to get used and abused
They are the best engines in the world
I wouldn't blow Steve Morris off. Great product Great customer service. You will never find a better motor builder that has your back like Steve. The disappointment in his face when he saw the mane caps. He knew why Thay failed...
when did he blow steve off?
@@warrenmichael918 at the end of the video he talks about maybe moving away from the smx engine. I don't think the smx is the problem, it looks like it runs just fine with all the abuse.
@@nicholaskemp1287he might just mean a different Steve morris engine, not necessarily a different engine builder. I agree, it’d be a shame for him to go with someone else. Steve is a legend
I honestly expected him to move the SMX to the Camaro… has he hinted on what engine he plans on putting in it?
@@bvp794CJRC sad in their last video, they are expecting eagles motor to be there on Friday.
Steve is a stand up guy. That outro was the most disrespectful thing I’ve seen from Garrett, even if he didn’t mean it to come off as bad as it did.
Garrett I've been so impressed with your aviation side as to your attitude toward your flying endeavor's. I'm a pilot with just north of 14000 hrs in RW and FW.. I was worried when you started the flying thing but you impressed me with your safety first attitude. Now treat Mullet with the same respect as to exceeding limits, Pre and post race inspections and things might last a little longer. Everything has limits. Its not a Steve problem but a Cleet problem. Sorry to be blunt but Thats the way I see it.Oh yea, I flew a MD E model for 14 years. Keep it up Loyal follower on both the race and aviation side Denny
There's wisdom in that Denny. People will get in and drive things that are ready to fall apart, doing the same with aircraft is usually, well, lets say the landings are rather difficult.
🤝🏻
yeah my first thought was he better be maintaining his planes a lot better than his cars or he's in trouble
NEW SMX!!!!!! JUST PULL THE TRIGGER! Also need a full inspection in-between every big event. Including dropping pan and checking mains. Pulling valve covers. Make a list so everything gets checked no matter what. Please keep the smx and keep Steve on your team. What other builders driving 4 hours instantly to try to help. Look at how good his process is on the new blocks he is pushing out.
Definitely need to do this after runs this is why things are breaking because no one is doing a tear down on the engine after runs its race car life and it needs to be done.
I don't think they wanna make the time to do a full inspection. They're too busy with the burnout stuff and flying planes
That pretty much what street outlaws do, they check everything just about after every other pass. Just have to maintain it a little better and they’ll be golden
The little shenanigans really makes it for me! From Mr. Sam’s “you know better” about them asking him if he chicken foot, to auditing the elevator certificates and even them admiring the tow truck across the road! Its all golden characters all around!
If you stop watching this video at the 55:30 mark this is a good video. The last 4 minutes is just silly, and out of pocket from cleet. "can't stay down this path", that path hasn't been cleared by the SMX, but rather poor maintenance, look inward, don't point outward boys. You guys will be fine, but just a touch of accountability, and another SMX and you'll be just fine.
You're out of your mind to get rid of the SMX. Keep with it, Steve will do right for you guys.
It's not the motor so much as the car it's in. The new car looks sml/ls whatever based, and I'm sure a load more ridgid than mullet. Hard tire shakes and snap revs are murder on every component in a car.
I've been a HUGE cleeter supporter. The ending of this video comes across as a huge whiner not getting his way. His team does a great job but the fact he can't look inward speaks volumes. In fact, the amount of wheel shake and the amount of forces put apoin the thust bearing on a long wheel base car such as mullet is incredable! He then wonders why things break when he runs WITH TIRES HE DID A BURNOUT WITH!!! This may have well been the cause of the broken main caps. My god man...... Get it together!!!!!
@riverdragonmarineservice441 I'd say it's not the car or the engine it's the owner/driver
It's the wrong engine for that car. Better to get a BBC and run a different class.
Then the SMX can be used properly.
@@cbradley4466 I wouldn't have the patience to discuss that situation in front of a camera. There's nothing worse than mechanical failure due to your negligence. Not to mention that these famous TH-camrs know there are crazy fans that will twist their words over the smallest misspoken thing
Mullet has everything it needs currently to win drag and drive events. The problem is that the maintenance program for Mullet absolutely sucks. This and previous videos prove that. That engine and trans should have been gone through after it got the hell reved out of it multiple times when they tested. They should have spotted the 2nd gear issue on the log. I love cleetus and crew, but the majority of their issues with Mullet are self-inflicted by not properly maintaining the car.
This is the time to step back and do a full system analysis from the current procedures to all the fasteners on the car.
What changed between the SMX going in and kicking butt and now? I suspect it is something easy to fix but hard to identify.
The problem is bigger than just maintenance, it's the fact that he's a u-tuber first and foremost, the whole empire has built on content of blowing up engines and transmissions and making content out of it. With the way his core on camera team is set up there's no way to have a "race team", there's too much time spent on Crown Vic's, burnout cars, giveaway cars, shenanigan videos etc to compete against people who are dedicated to one car. Maintenance is at the bottom of the list when you add in promoting events, making aviation content, r/c content, buying airfields, business deals, jet boat videos.
wow I’m so glad he has you guys for the racing expertise 🙏
who are you guys again? 🤔
@@indianaslim4971they definitely don't blow up engines on purpose it's racing parts break especially when you are pushing them to their limits
you break a crank 'maincap' when you run an engine on 7 cylinders. A crankshaft is carefully balanced, it's balanced to run on the amount of cylinders the engine has, run it on less for long enough and this happens. The cam lobes being completely worn is something that comes up in regular maintenance. It's a racecar, you're supposed to pull apart and inspect stuff like this after every event.
Imagine the vacuum in the cyl of the dead cyl. if they ran it with the spark plug still in. That seems like it would put some serious strain on an engine running that many R's with the valves closed.
I'm not an engineer or race engine builder but it seems like that would load the rod, crank, etc. if the plug was in.
I was wondering about that. It's a compression stroke every stroke lol
@@mrjelly0077 Not when a valve stays open like they mentioned. It throws the crankshaft out of balance everytime a compression or ignition stroke happens and actual forse is supposed to be applied to the crank from that piston.
Do you notice the Monte Carlo guy he's always under the hood and his 4200 lbs car runs in the 6s or low 7s. Its how your supposed to look after a race engine.
Bingo!! They even said it was vibrating when they were going down the highway…. The ran 7 second passes on it. That’s how you break main caps.
Here’s cheers to Steve and his motor programs. I’d love an smx to put in a patrol 😂
“How’s that happen?”
Steve just smiles! And the look was “you buddy your how’s that happens”
😂😂😂
Steve can get a lot of data from Cleetus to improve the engine from his race, abuse, etc. Just wait for SMX engine version 10.
haha agreed
@@JerryDLTN The engine is not what needs improvement, it's Garretts program that needs to be improved.
Burnouts and over-revving, no 2nd gear, no wonder it failed.
15:50 If you notice Sam was even pushing his knee down with his right hand to make sure he didn't accidentally chicken-foot but also driving with his left hand only too! What an OG Champ. Great job Sam and great job McFarland Racing!
Sam makes it look like he's out for a Sunday drive. Absolute GOAT
"look at me 150 years old" 😂😂😂
same a g driving 120 one handed
The old guy is a true inspiration.
I cannot get over the sparkle you put in Sam's eyes while he is lookin at you!
That man admires you SO MUCH!
He ENJOYS you! Your company, family, friends and FUN!
It is just a JOY to watch you and the guys have fun!
Lmao wtf
I am glad to see I am not the only one impressed by Steve Morris and his motor. 7 cylinders, untold internal destruction, and still ran like a tank. Very very cool!
Don’t give up on the SMX. It had some memorable runs and numbers and it was fun to watch y’all push it to past its limits. Just keep at it…I enjoy watching you guys not just win, but also how you push yourselves beyond established standards. It’s quite inspiring.
I think the SMX will be put in the Eagle when it is done.
It's not even an SMX
Steve has proven time and time again that not only is he a stand up guy but the man knows how to build and engine that being said anything making that much power with that much weight behind it getting as many consecutive passes as mullet sees its going to break that's the name of the game. The limits at which the SMX engines perform at are just incredible.
💯 agreed... Even the welds a breaking due to the hp, torque and shaking. But it comes across that he's blaming the SMX.
I'm pretty sure it getting the piss kicked out of it isn't the engine builder's fault with the power levels they are making with it and lack of a real tear down inspection and doing things last minute to make sure it is ready
Steve Morris has been great to you guys and seems like one of the best in the business, so I hope that you stay with him. I think the next level for you guys is to rebuild your motors inbetween races like the factory guys. Time to expand the team and invest in a few more tools for the shop and get those motors specced after every event. Then you would know if that motor has been hurt for a while before finding the problems.
The damn thing hasn’t managed to make it to enough passes once yet for new springs or a rack or any of the maintenance intervals before having to be replaced from either breaking and having to be replaced early or something else failing and having to go back to steve instead
@@54racemanHis goals just aren't realistic for that chassis and he's pushing the engine too hard!
He's pushing more boost and turning it higher RPM's than Steve ever recommended! With the chassis he needs to push ~4000hp and he's losing to others pushing ~3000hp! (iE Snot Rocket!)
Yeah he's disappointed and doesn't want to be done with the week on day 2, he said it himself that he's not blaming Steve and yet the comment section is going wild saying Cleet is blaming Steve and others are even blaming Steve themselves!
You can't knowingly push an engine like that THAT hard with a dead cylinder (not to mention knowing the cam is smacking the lifter as well)!
They turned the car around way too quickly and wanted to win overall without even thinking! It sucks but the only person to blame is himself..... (And that's not being said with hostility.... I'd love to see him ease up and go back to the basics so he can be back mingling with fans instead of being buried in the car the entire time! I liked it much better when it was him and Bret and the biggest struggle was getting caught in a downpour in Leroy!
Make Mullet a 8.0 or 8.5 drag and drive monster and let Eagle and LeRoy go rounds at World Cup and FL/TK2k!
Bring Ruby and the other guys on these drag and drives, just have fun! Don't have to be number one in them all!
Sadly most of the TH-camrs are more interested in making content than serious racing.
Why else would they knowingly keep racing when they know an engine is hurt?
Or doing dumb things like not checking oil or water.
Like "Uh oh the engine we abused blew up"
You just answered your own question they are TH-camrs not a serious race team😂😂😂😂so yea there’s gonna be mistakes they call themselves idiots I mean what did you think what would happen
Definitely not Steve's fault. I think it has a lot to do with the transmission missing a gear plus flaring the rpms everyone the burnout tires spun. When you are making over 4000hp maintenance is priority number 1
Also lets be honest they have not been doing proper maintence on any car in the fleet for a while. The number of cracked welds they showed in the video and all the loose bolts and the broken wire in the last video, that crap doesnt happen over night. I am honestly worried about garrett's safety if that's how they are maintaining the fleet.
Don’t forget the burnout pad from the last event.
@@stephenlea5765 oh man i forgot about that
@@nucphyschem1 He has too many projects and events that I think he and the team might not be able to 100% take care of em all. I haven't heard about his drift cars for a while either(The RTR Mustang, Donnie, the S13 was abandoned, etc). They will return for sure, but yeah, he needs to chill a good bit to retake on all projects.
@@nucphyschem1this is the correct answer, it doesn’t matter how much you pay for an engine if you don’t take care of it. They need to do a lot more preventative maintenance.
What a trooper Steve is, man is a legend drove 4 hr one way to the rescue win or lose 👏
Hell of a service from steve. Real stand up guy. He deserve some subs and likes on his channel for sure !
you act like he has a choice, plenty of people complain about his engines, when you ask him if the push rods should hit the head in the pushrod ports and he responds "itll work itself clear" youd lose alot of hope in that "engine builder"
I can't help but think running on 7 cylinders might have something to do with the cracked main caps. The whole engine is out of balance
Its not the car its the team. You need a crew chief and more mechanics in the shop.
Your team is amazing and makes great content and can build very nice cars. But the maintenance is more then what you guys can keep up with. Bigger team for the dedicated race crew if you want to stay in the 6s
Exactly!!!
This , there jumping from 1 thing to another , they will have these problems with the new car too . Having too much money too and no mechanical sympathy doing doughnuts in a dedicated drag rig. finding so many cracked welds , broken sensors, Loose wires, missing fittings, loose bolts goes on and on
@@Huda88754 well that makes it fun to watch, and generate the too much money you talk about :)
@@Huda88754 Honestly. now i never have a issue with cleet, but doing burnouts in mullet - then when it fails, acts all surprised. Like, how the fuck did you not expect something like that to happen? Cracked welds, the trans having problems - and now the engine. It clearly shows he has NO mechanical sympathy (all the other drag cars enter the chat, let alone all the VICs he wrecked that could've been reliable dailies for other people). something needs to change, he has no right to blame Steve or the SMX, especially when the SMX is working fine in heavier vehicles than mullet, and going FASTER, from what I heard.
Maybe maintain your shit better, and then if it still fails, then you have the right to complain. Plain and simple. And I'm rather disappointed he hasn't said a word since the video came out, and the backlash that followed his words. Cleet? I'm disappointed.
They are TH-camrs at the end of the day😂😂😂😂this isn’t an actual series race team talking about needing a crew chief this isn’t nascar obviously he wants his team to be surrounded by the people he’s always around
Stop treating a 4000HP SMX like a junkyard LS. Put the limiter at 8800 and do regular part inspections.
Stop armchair quarterbacking! How is it that I am 99% sure that you don't even own a racecar & I'm 100% sure that you've never been on anything close to this level, so it's very strange that you feel like you would be anything but a 🤡🤡🤡 for saying something like that! Who do you think you are to tell him how to treat HIS car?!? That's the beauty of life, YOU can't tell ME what to do to my stuff and I can't tell YOU the same!! Yell upstairs and tell Mom I want a grilled cheese!!
@@Headsup9550 i see you never got invited to any parties.
@@Headsup9550You don't have to own a racecar or an SMX to understand any of that, just common sense that a 9.3litre engine ain't gonna like 9500rpm. Let's not forget that leroys motor died too.
@@Headsup9550don’t need to know anything are be close to this level to have common sense, my LS swap mustang makes 1500hp maxed and I check everything after an event
I was amazed by the abuse the SMX endured and with cracked internals it held together!
Steve morris aint a bad engine builder cleet is just a good engine breaker
Please don’t leave steve and the SMX. I used to dream of SMXs when i was younger. Thought they were a gimmick and unreal with how insane they were until you started running one. As everyone else has said, Steve clearly cares about his product, and your relations. I really hope you keep that around. After-all, once the Camaro is done, will Mullet really be in the prime light like it is right now? It wont be the car trying to beat everyone out there anymore. The Camaro will be..