The Riggory of Drag Race All Stars 5

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  • @GoMulanGo
    @GoMulanGo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2228

    Blair saying “an all star doesn’t HAVE to have any challenge wins” at the final four lives in my mind rent free like sorry girl but that is so unintentionally hilarious

    • @JuanitoEsBonito
      @JuanitoEsBonito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

      She was ready to say anything to save herself😭

    • @giwrgoshymn
      @giwrgoshymn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      when i heard that i was like then wtf are u doing here if u think challenge wins dont matter, just call urself an all star and dont join the competition 😭

    • @inventions178
      @inventions178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Neither does a winner according to Elektra Bionic

    • @zaldigr863
      @zaldigr863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      She’s lowkey right

    • @FallenAngel12121
      @FallenAngel12121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@zaldigr863 no, she isn’t

  • @mickeyfan5534
    @mickeyfan5534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1440

    In once saw someone say "All Stars 5 wasn't a competition. It was a coronation." and it feels so accurate to this season.

    • @user-mz2ne4yh2t
      @user-mz2ne4yh2t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was a mere procedure, but Shea deserved it tho

    • @cox78
      @cox78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Yup. Shea shouldve won S9 hands down. No shade to Sasha but come on. It was a waste of time because we all knew it was to correct a terrible wrong.

    • @Stunoshiadupri
      @Stunoshiadupri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      @@cox78 if it wasn’t for the ASSASSINATION that Sasha did to Shea in the lip sync finale, then Shea would’ve 100% won season nine.

    • @clogsworth456
      @clogsworth456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@cox78 She should've... UNTIL production threw a wrench into the finale and Sasha pulled a stunt that NO ONE saw coming and changed drag race forever... No shade to Shea but Sasha winning the S9 crown wasn't a 'wrong', she rightfully earned it within the rules of 'the game'

    • @enriquecastaneda3514
      @enriquecastaneda3514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@cox78 I think it came down to Shea and Trinity. But I think Shea pulled a Valentina and just thought she’d win because she’s Shea. Sasha deserved that win after that lip sync.

  • @Amanda-js9cw
    @Amanda-js9cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +518

    The fact that Mariah’s performance moved Ricky Martin (the guest judge) so much that he gave her a shoutout before she went backstage with the other safe queens shows that she should’ve been in the top!

  • @Killixn_
    @Killixn_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    The biggest riggory was hands-down the "If you're not in the top, you're in the bottom". It still irks me to this day 😭😤💀.

    • @殺人光線
      @殺人光線 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Those words ignite my fight or flight response, I swear 😭 And I'm always ready to fight every time 😭

    • @corrine1310
      @corrine1310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Who is it rigged for? Miz cracker? She didn't win, if anyone's track record got hurt it was Shea and she won.

    • @RomansR2
      @RomansR2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      vers erasure

    • @KingkyLeor
      @KingkyLeor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Alexis mateo could've had it all

    • @benjaminlopezisgreat
      @benjaminlopezisgreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She was the winner in my book

  • @theholyom1316
    @theholyom1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1235

    I just annoyed that a Mariah, a literally legend, was demoted to a filler queen. Her variety show was just stunning

    • @Richard_Brown
      @Richard_Brown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Mariah was filler on s3 also?? A Brilliant artist isn’t defined by dr

    • @eraserdusting1840
      @eraserdusting1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@Richard_Brown fr, drag race is a sham with the queens it chooses to highlight. mariah is LEGENDARY in ballroom, mug4dayz

    • @jofrostsupernannystan4784
      @jofrostsupernannystan4784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@eraserdusting1840 i thought she was an icon as of recent, no?

    • @eraserdusting1840
      @eraserdusting1840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jofrostsupernannystan4784 oo youre right, my bad

    • @SingerCommaMarla
      @SingerCommaMarla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But momma if its right, its right

  • @dylannolastname730
    @dylannolastname730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +886

    to be honest Derrick was robbed of staying longer , imagine the drama, the heat, the intense CAMP derrick would have brought to the season; sure derrick did flop in the talent show for a bit but it would have been nice to see her make it further (+ could have done well in some challenges there)

    • @ngasalaja2839
      @ngasalaja2839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      She was not robbed tho because she did flop on the first episode and eliminated, that was fair

    • @aldricmartinez-olson7509
      @aldricmartinez-olson7509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ngasalaja2839 she was not robbed, but had it been rigged a little the season would have been so much better

    • @Dark_Aeon
      @Dark_Aeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm glad we got rid of the negativity on ep1.

    • @bubblegumrebel
      @bubblegumrebel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      i deadass think she could've made top 6, maybe even top 5, had mayhem been eliminated instead of her on episode 1. it's hard to fully say how her reception would've been since she never showed her runways for the season, but i think her being safe/high for the "i'm in love" + hotel challenges is believable, followed by her being in the bottom with india for sheMZ, but being saved bc her track record was better. for snatch game, she said she would've done mariah carey, and while idk if she would've done well enough to beat shea, i think she could've done well enough to justify not being sent home. the ball would've been her downfall for sure tho LMAO

    • @JuanitoEsBonito
      @JuanitoEsBonito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Derrick and a few other queens actually revealed they cut out alot of her other impersonations she had way more than what we were shown it was probably a time constraint issue but who knows how it would have appeared to us had we seen the whole thing kinda like how some better talent show performances had parts where the queen slipped up cut out in the final edit.

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1198

    So many things could’ve saved this season, 2/3 more queens, a comeback challenge, better song choices, fresh challenges, fairer judging, production did EVERYTHING wrong and I hate when people blame it on the “lacklustre” cast because that’s not the truth

    • @hidansektas
      @hidansektas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      disagree about a comeback challenge. it always screws one queen up and pisses me off

    • @jaydent1320
      @jaydent1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      A not rigged for shea season

    • @matthewqualiotto4578
      @matthewqualiotto4578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No the cast sucked

    • @aressss7498
      @aressss7498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@matthewqualiotto4578 it didn’t

    • @styles2535
      @styles2535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@aressss7498 it kind did. It lacked the big heavy hitters that previous seasons had. The only big contenders going in were Shea(who ended up underperforming), Alexis(who was snubbed by the new format), Ongina(who wasn’t in the right mental space for tv again) and Cracker(who did very well, but never earned herself a storyline). Juju did amazing on AS5 and had the best storyline, but going in she had never won a challenge

  • @feyfey9745
    @feyfey9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +558

    Can we talked about how irrational the accusation towards Alexis was? India said she "campaigned" to get Shea out *after* she cast her vote which literally makes no sense bc how are you gonna campaign when the votes are already being cast??? #justiceforalexismateo

    • @Dark_Aeon
      @Dark_Aeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think there's a kernel of truth in that story. To me it sounded like a misunderstanding or something blown out of proportion, but it's believable that Alexis did mention something about an alliance against Shea. It's a logical thing to do.

    • @JuanitoEsBonito
      @JuanitoEsBonito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Dark_Aeon Obviously not in the end since it's pretty much what gets Alexis Eliminated soon after and kinda just sours her relationship with the other girls in the werq room Alexis seemed very aggravated by the situation she even made a video calling India out after the season aired.

    • @Dark_Aeon
      @Dark_Aeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JuanitoEsBonito yes I know, I've seen her video. I still think there's some truth to it. Whether it was after the voting or before, I believe she asked if India and Mayhem were voting for Shea to see if they had enough votes to get her out next time.
      *Which is not a bad strategy, the voting format was built for alliances

    • @JuanitoEsBonito
      @JuanitoEsBonito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Dark_Aeon its not a bad strategy if done correctly and in this situation nothing seems well thought together because everyone is literally pointing fingers at each other to save themselves so even if Alexis was campaigning(which I still don't think she was) she should have talked to other queens

    • @feyfey9745
      @feyfey9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Dark_Aeon yeah i think there's a good chance she asked "hey did you vote for shea?" or something but the way india told it seemed very distorted

  • @TheVanguardAssassin
    @TheVanguardAssassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +574

    "They catered the song to each assassin on AS6." True, but are we really going to forget how they literally cherry-picked 'Dirty' for Kylie? I'm not mad, but facts are facts America.

    • @qb10002
      @qb10002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      Also "Boom Clap" for Kameron was.......a choice lol

    • @殺人光線
      @殺人光線 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      @qb10002 Tea. Honestly Boom Clap for anyone was a choice 💀

    • @myoydeotro3724
      @myoydeotro3724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @ColePenner
      @ColePenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And I wouldn’t have had it any other way tbh

    • @antoinettemaraisgauthier
      @antoinettemaraisgauthier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@殺人光線 but why do i feel like derrick barry could make it work-😭

  • @ashykins
    @ashykins 2 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    Let’s be honest the best part of as5 was
    1. Juju talking about her cats,
    2. Juju saying “oh why not” picking crackers lipstick then putting it back and the whole voting with the parading for shea going home.
    And 3. Just juju.

    • @Masa-vg2li
      @Masa-vg2li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed

    • @queencaroline5926
      @queencaroline5926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      omg the erasure of "this is why derrick don't like you"

    • @buggyking2523
      @buggyking2523 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      “What the hell just happened?”

    • @choerryb0mb
      @choerryb0mb ปีที่แล้ว +17

      "second language my ass"

    • @davidkonevky7372
      @davidkonevky7372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also Alexis saying: "that's why derrick don't like you"

  • @michaeltonus3888
    @michaeltonus3888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +363

    The only parts of this season I want to see again are "I would walk sensually over to the thermostat..." and "You're a liar and is why Derrick doesn't like you."

  • @simonemoiser1361
    @simonemoiser1361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    I feel like this season would have been SO much better with the top 2 format 😭 we need to see that video.

    • @SrJohnnyCat
      @SrJohnnyCat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Specially with only seven episodes before the finale. Let these girls win something. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @tielphinstone3556
      @tielphinstone3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Imagine that Juju winning the the girl group, Hotel, improve, Snatch game and maybe the garden ball as Ambuuuuuuur

    • @laincoubert7236
      @laincoubert7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      alexis would've been a frontrunner for sure, she did so well.

    • @t1387c
      @t1387c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      fr, im honestly not a fan of the lip sync assassin format and im really hoping they bring back the top 2 or switch it up to somethig else for AS8. Also kylie's and shea's wins would be much more deserved because they would have had more wins. Like Kylie would have been top 2 in the ball, snatch game, and monologues and Shea in the ball and stand up.

    • @johneisleytiu5110
      @johneisleytiu5110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Juju and Alexis would’ve been front runners and would’ve cost Shea her crown
      That would’ve been more entertaining than the Shew coronation season

  • @pmsreviews7267
    @pmsreviews7267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    The best thing the season brought us was the compilation of Bob hating Blair

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    Imagine if they had put Mayhem in the top for episode 3 and Shea did go home, that would’ve been a gag

    • @tielphinstone3556
      @tielphinstone3556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      They would have thrown in a comeback episode

    • @highonsugar6273
      @highonsugar6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@tielphinstone3556 that would be even better, we would get the gag of Shea getting eliminated but still get to see more of her

    • @nachardi1837
      @nachardi1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I would have kinda lived

    • @AnT-ik1fh
      @AnT-ik1fh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I would have lived, I liked s9 Shea better. I wanted Alexis to win the season, but oh well

    • @lastrega2968
      @lastrega2968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh my god that would’ve been genius, everyone would be scalped as we were all (rightly) saying it was obvious who production wanted for their finalists and winner.
      I suppose the problem would be that the strong contenders would gather up wins in Shea’s absence up to her comeback and it’d be hard for her to equalise.

  • @khntou4178
    @khntou4178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    it's hilarious how despite AS6 having the completely same format (besides the comeback) it's a much massively better season than AS5. Goes to show how better production and casting can really change a season.

    • @DragDetective
      @DragDetective  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      This part

    • @dylannolastname730
      @dylannolastname730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      not really better casting imo (i dont think the cast is the main reasoning for a season flopping unless its down under). I think the show is able to pump out an amazing all stars season with any cast like in as6 where queens who didnt make it as far in their original season or arent strongly liked by the current fandom at the time such as kylie, rajah, jiggly , serena chacha, etc... were able to have amazing runs and story arcs. I think its how they edit the cast is what matters most.

    • @khntou4178
      @khntou4178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@dylannolastname730 i mean u just explained why better casting helped it be a better season. A large portion of the cast had a redemption storyline that made us very motivated to watch. A really good win equity helped as well and the edit too, like you said. This all helps make the overall winner a lot less predictable.

    • @elvangulley3210
      @elvangulley3210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All stars 5 was fine the only problem I had was the queens were so scared of the fans they wouldn't vote for the obvious top threat Shea they were willing to sacrifice their own chance of winning to not get attacked by the fans

    • @giwrgoshymn
      @giwrgoshymn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      this format works when there are more girls and more episodes so more ppl can have wins

  • @vivalasammm
    @vivalasammm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    the saddest part about this season is that we didn't get nearly enough Alexis Mateo or Derrick Berry. it was such a waste of a great cast!

  • @lip8781
    @lip8781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    The fact that Alexis Mateo was there almost all season long and did not lip-sync for a win one time still completely infuriates me🙀

    • @PureHoneyBoo
      @PureHoneyBoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But she wasn’t the best for any of the challenges

    • @xxdepressionxx5772
      @xxdepressionxx5772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@PureHoneyBoo snatch game.

    • @PureHoneyBoo
      @PureHoneyBoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xxdepressionxx5772 her snatch game was good but I pretty much got Alexis while both Jujubee and Shea were playing their respective characters

    • @xxdepressionxx5772
      @xxdepressionxx5772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@PureHoneyBoo …Huh? Alexis and Walter Mercado…the same? The only similarity is that they are the same ethnicity- like They read completely differently… whilst Shea repeated some lines and Juju.. (who honestly was amazing this episode) had a weaker runway than Alexis…

    • @nicollesalazar3335
      @nicollesalazar3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PureHoneyBoo Agreed. I know Walter Mercado. My grandma was always watching him on TV, and he was definitely a fun and charismatic performer. Alexis was doing herself dressed as Walter to be honest. Very similar to S13 where Kandy supposedly did Patrick Starr and really acted as herself lol.

  • @keroroplatoon3216
    @keroroplatoon3216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The biggest problem with Derrick episode 1 is like, yeah this season would’ve been a lot better if she’d stayed longer, but after her performance episode 1 which was so clearly a bottom placement, if she’d just been placed LOW, then fans would’ve been calling *that* rigged. So it’s kinda damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    • @nachardi1837
      @nachardi1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They would have screamed rigged but after derrick created a new drama no one would care

    • @laincoubert7236
      @laincoubert7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      i don't think anyone's coming for Trinity K Bonet staying over Serena on AS6 in the same circumstances (TKB clearly had the worst performance and it was a comedy related thing), i mean she slayed the season. i can't imagine a universe in which she was eliminated and we didn't get to see her do Beyonce...

    • @jackbutler6606
      @jackbutler6606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laincoubert7236 also even if you take riggory into it, fans would obviously prefer Trinity over Serena in the long term, at least Trinity has a "just let her have this one" quality to her (which they did and then absolutely fucked her over with rudemption BUT ANYWAY)

  • @maxmoroney4607
    @maxmoroney4607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    Likening AS5 to a Brantsteele simulation is actually such an accurate description that it's kinda scary. It is SUCH a shame to me still that this season was such a flop, because this cast and PARTICULARLY this top 5 deserved a better season to showcase the talents they brought to this season. I mean, Shea's runways and performances, Juju's first challenge win, Cracker's comedy, Blair's glow up, Alexis' improv skills, and so so much more was brought to the table here that would have been so much more impactful in a BETTER season. Shea doesn't deserve to have her well-earned win be tarnished by the reputation of a season that felt “MADE” for her to win. And also, I've said it once and I'll say it forever, justice for Mariah Paris Balenciaga.

    • @PRINCESSTISSUES
      @PRINCESSTISSUES 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My only problem is I personally wish that they casted Blair in All Stars 6 to actually show growth since she kind of was a bit meh in the season although I love her runways

  • @CoalaCalavera
    @CoalaCalavera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    They only bring friends/family as an assassin so they can have them pull that queens lipstick, that’s why Alexis was crying when she saw Vanjie

  • @DemonTwink69
    @DemonTwink69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I would have never come back to an all stars that Shea was on. The writing was on the wall ever since season 9 that Shea would come back for a crown

    • @felixmeow660
      @felixmeow660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I thought they were setting up for Shea to win all stars 7..that's what it looked like for her to get to the final 4 with the 3 star jump she got for winning the last challenge

    • @heymistercarter.
      @heymistercarter. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apparently Nina Bo'Nina Brown was invited for this season, but she dropped out as soon as she found out Shea was on the cast. I think she could tell that, not only was the season likely catered towards Shea, but they would've mostly just had Nina back to repeat her Season 9 storyline/rivalry with Shea.

  • @catarinaalmanova9766
    @catarinaalmanova9766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    When this All Stars aired i did not watched it, but i did watch season 9 and when they announced that Shea was in the cast i immediately thought: “It is made for her, she is the winner” and that sums up why it did not wanted to see the show at that period, she was gonna be crowned by production regardless.

    • @cesaruy247
      @cesaruy247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This right here is the correct answer

  • @kylpyvene
    @kylpyvene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I think it kinda sucks they did the double crowning in AS4 when most of the fans didnt see it as earned and there was a lot of backlash, so the production is hesitant to do it again, where imo AS5 and AS6 could both have justifiably been double crownings

    • @HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows9
      @HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They only did it because of the black lives matter movement, but we all know trinity was the only deserving winner, but her sin was to be white and from the south

  • @gigifabulous
    @gigifabulous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    I really wanna see Peppermint on an All Stars season and win so all of the Season 9 top 4 have a crown as they deserve

    • @givemeliberty700
      @givemeliberty700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That'd be cool , with 4 crowned winners from season 10

    • @valeriedecadbury2978
      @valeriedecadbury2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@givemeliberty700 what? lol

    • @givemeliberty700
      @givemeliberty700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@valeriedecadbury2978 ?

    • @valeriedecadbury2978
      @valeriedecadbury2978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@givemeliberty700 how are there 4 crowned winners from season ten?

    • @givemeliberty700
      @givemeliberty700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@valeriedecadbury2978 I mean if peppermint won an All-stars

  • @Aibheaog
    @Aibheaog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I'll never watch this season again, but I'll watch that compilation of Bob getting increasingly aggrieved at Blair a million trillion times

    • @josejesusyepezsanchez5725
      @josejesusyepezsanchez5725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same sis thats the best part pf all stars 5 and derrick berry interview

    • @du3844-m4v
      @du3844-m4v 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you revel in the bullying of another queen...

    • @AliceBunny05
      @AliceBunny05 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@du3844-m4v calling that bullying is honestly insulting to anyone who's been bullied. expressing that you don't like the way someone does drag (which it's a stretch to say bob even thinks that of blair) is not bullying. you're allowed to not like people and be vocal about that, and it's not that bob even dislikes anything about blair on a personal level. how could that possibly quality as bullying.

  • @ThePoisonLotus
    @ThePoisonLotus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    The way that Mariah was robbed of the Talent Show win and the Top 3 was clear from Episode 1...

    • @karricolby
      @karricolby ปีที่แล้ว

      THISSS.. just gotta stay silent and be grateful for the outcome we’ve got

  • @pengoschwortz4734
    @pengoschwortz4734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    A big problem of the season was them trying to get queens to cancel gigs during pride just to film the season
    Any other month and we might’ve had an actual **All** Stars season

    • @cryptidfaerie4107
      @cryptidfaerie4107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      wow… and they get a lot of their revenue from pride gigs. that’s kinda fucked, they should do it in august or may.

  • @JuanMardson
    @JuanMardson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    I'm still in the beginning of the video but I paused it to come here personally thank you for giving Mariah Paris Balenciaga the appreciation she deserves

  • @LA-jq4ps
    @LA-jq4ps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Felt the same way with the performance of Mariah and Gia both of them breaking the mold, giving us some message or representing their culture. Ending up in a safe position being totally unfair

  • @_.Idk._
    @_.Idk._ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Juju & Mariah not being in the top for the variety show is still one of the most baffling decisions they’ve ever made.
    Btw your I’m In Love verse ATE.

  • @chase-tt1xz
    @chase-tt1xz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    just imagine an alternate ending where Mariah Paris “the successful” “the icon” “the legend” “the beauty” balenciaga won all stars 5

    • @godrickstockwell1505
      @godrickstockwell1505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I almost wonder if, given the overall feelings people have about this season, it would have dimmed her light a little bit. Mariah is a goddess and having her legacy reduced to, "the winner of All Stars worst season" would be criminal.

  • @warrencaelum9536
    @warrencaelum9536 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Alyssa Edward's lipsync performance was already a dead giveaway of the riggory. There's just no way she performs like that. It's highly likely that the production told her to make her performance underwhelming so that Shea could win

  • @hannahbishop786
    @hannahbishop786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    okay, a couple thoughts b/c some of the choices during this season keep me up at night
    ep 1, think production wanted ongina to make it far/be in the top 4 that we never got, so they saved her from the bottom 2 and sacrificed derrick in the process cuz ongina was more on their priority list. i think they just hoped the queens would send mayhem home and then they didn't. i think the moment cracker said what she said to ongina (which i honestly don't think was that bad considering that the opinion itself had been said by derrick, blair AND ongina herself but her delivery of it was rlly bad idk i think this just kinda got more amped than it needed to honestly) i think cracker became a useful player to production in the sense that they could give her the best track record without having to crown her because of her behavior. fans still call some of her wins rigged to this day (which i don't agree w/ but whatever opinions are opinions) and there was little support for her to win, so they could justify her not winning despite her track record. in that way, they could avoid ppl criticizing the season being rigged for shea in the same way ppl say AS2 was rigged for alaska. whether it's true or not, the fandom will always be suspicious of the fan-favorite queen who everyone thinks will win all stars getting the best track record. by giving cracker a better track record, the accusations of riggory towards shea in that regard are eliminated and instead you just have cracker fans (which to be clear, i am one myself) upset because despite her performing well, cracker can't be crowned due to fan reception. i 100% think shea deserves the crown here, but i think there were a lot of factors outside of track record that kinda make me think production wanted her to win in the end, one of them being production's eagerness to snipe mayhem and alexis out once they pulled her lipstick. also, i think it would have been a shea/cracker final two if they picked it like in AS4, and there's no way in hell cracker's beating shea to make me feel so...yeah overall i think this season is waaaay to micromanaged to be enjoyable, thus the way we feel about it now. also, not to continue to be a cracker apologist (i'm okay with her not winning, really) but her talking about what she went through prior to coming to AS5 (her apartment flooding and ruining her financially, her medical issues, implying that her partner attempted to take their own life, etc.) was relegated to untucked and whatcha packin even though it might have given at least a bit more context to her coming in to the season a bit on edge and disagreeable. doesn't excuse some of the behavior, but it would have at least been a more balanced view than what we got. overall, disappointed cuz the top three of this season is one of my favorites and they deserved a better season than what they got.

  • @stevengalatoula3216
    @stevengalatoula3216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The racism note at the end about fans only up roaring when a black queen wins without the best track record is correct and I’m glad you brought it up

  • @heymistercarter.
    @heymistercarter. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I think in terms of Derrick being the first out: I think she had this reputation as being pretty messy in terms of her drag, especially on the difference between being herself and doing the Britney Spears thing. So they almost had the idea of her being an early out from the getgo, even though it would’ve been fun to see her go on longer.

    • @殺人光線
      @殺人光線 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a great point. Derrick has never stood out to me outside of her BS schtick and her entertaining airhead shadiness. I don't think she would have made it far from the start (despite her talent). But I'm confused why production used her for filler while putting on her the same season as India. Feels like a missed opportunity when a storyline is presented and concluded in like 1 episode lol

  • @rennyjesus
    @rennyjesus ปีที่แล้ว +19

    OMG!!!! That Dumbledore verse was AMAZING!!!! I would have loved to have it! 😊

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Yesssss, I also don’t wanna hear nobody slander Blair, Bob does that enough 💀
    Edit: I think there might be a misunderstanding in the replies so I guess I can summarise what I’m trying to say here. The original comment wasn’t serious I don’t think Bob “slandered” Blair I just think she was a little harsh on her with her critiques (just my opinion). Whether you think Blair was favoured or not I hope we can all agree that no queen deserves hate for being favoured. In my opinion I don’t think Blair was favoured but I know my opinion isn’t a fact so I understand if you feel differently. I do think white privilege is a thing but I just don’t think that was the reason Blair got praised (you don’t have to agree with me), obviously all white people have white privilege I just didn’t think Blair was favoured to begin with so that’s why I said that the judges didn’t favour Blair because she was white. Obviously white privilege is a thing on drag, as white skinny queens have been favoured by the judges when maybe they shouldn’t have been but I still don’t think that’s a good reason to send a queen hate. Bob is entitled to have any opinion she wants about Blair so sorry if it came across as if I didn’t think that. If you disagree with any of this or think it’s wrong feel free to explain your opinion (I’m not trying to shut anyone down/silence them)

    • @oliverbrydges
      @oliverbrydges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Fr, she’s such a positive person and a great queen, but loads of people hate on her for some reason

    • @icannot1104
      @icannot1104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@oliverbrydges they literally don't just bob. Blair always has gotten love?! Look at any comment section in a video including Blair?

    • @oliverbrydges
      @oliverbrydges 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@icannot1104 this is definitely not true. Blair got sm hate after all stars bc she made it further than Alexis. If you follow her on Instagram you’d know she was depressed and had a hiatus from social media in 2020

    • @icannot1104
      @icannot1104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@oliverbrydges people didn't like the production pushing her further. Not disliking Blair herself.

    • @hojokarens
      @hojokarens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@icannot1104 nah she was definetely getting some hate, people love to diminish her by saying she's just another white wannabe-fashion queen, has no personality, etc

  • @pamelajacosqui
    @pamelajacosqui 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I still maintain that the problem with alexis and “scheming” was purely a language barrier and some poor word choice, it genuinely felt like she was asking people “so what voting system are we using” rather than a personal vendetta

  • @alexbolt5
    @alexbolt5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It’s funny to hear that some of the all stars 7 queens threatend to walk out mid filming due to the riggory they felt was happening (im guessing with jinx). But it’s funny since they where once the one that production chose to win/be in the top 4 making the show rigged for them to reach very far but since now their the ones feeling it from production it’s an issue?.😭

    • @felixmeow660
      @felixmeow660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I heard Shea almost left because she only had one star then jumped to 4 after winning the last challenge

  • @CarterDoesASMR23
    @CarterDoesASMR23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’m so glad I’m not the only one you loves “I’m in Love” Bringing the taste as usual I see 😌

  • @benafferton8123
    @benafferton8123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Shea Coulee is a winner of drag race because of this season so I cannot be mad at all

  • @classicallycommie6266
    @classicallycommie6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Them giving juju three bottom placements on this season is beyond homophobic she was really the dominating force in all aspects of the game, challenges, charisma, looks, she did everything right but they had other plans I guess 🤷‍♀️
    (Also whyd they have to do Alexis like that 😭)

  • @kboleyn4946
    @kboleyn4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    What bothers me about the AllStar seasons, is it’s pretty much all set up to crown a specific queen regardless of how others do. Some get to show their improvements, some are just there for story, some are just there for fan service so production doesn’t give a crap. So a lot of times, the end results feel a little underwhelming.

  • @beandrag9019
    @beandrag9019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So many things could’ve saved this season like *waiting more than a year to shove another all stars in our face*

  • @millie-mayprice891
    @millie-mayprice891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "Shea just won because she's Shea Coulee" is like saying "well, she only won because she's really good at drag race" Like... Yeah. Yeah, that's correct. She's super good at it. And what? I would have been hella mad if she hadn't won tbh, and I was strongly team Sasha for season 9, so it's not like Im some super fan who thinks she was robbed. Shea deserved that win.

  • @everydayLMK
    @everydayLMK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have to say, when Kylie won AS6, I truly thought that Ra’Jah deserved to win. Still completely love Kylie but I thought Ra’Jah had the best storyline and was the strongest competitor. Although I do agree with the sentiment that the fans mainly have the “THEY DIDNT HAVE THE BEST TRACK RECORD” argument towards black queens.

  • @bluemaiden2894
    @bluemaiden2894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I forget where I heard this so it may not be true but I think Derrick’s best impressions were cut from the show so they could put her in the bottom over Ongina which is a shame since Derrick def would’ve brought the drama production usually loves so much

  • @ddrawr
    @ddrawr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    THANK YOU for saying you enjoy I’m in Love because I do not understand the hate it gets. It’s easily one of the catchiest RPDR songs.

  • @keatis_1
    @keatis_1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This season was a trainwreck from start to finish but I rewatched it recently and it does have a certain charm to it... like current drag race is so set on following whatever narrative they decided on and take as little risks as possible to make it play out But seasons like this and ukvtw kind of have the early season messiness the queens nowadays are typically too cautious to partake in. Like it ran around the same time as s12 and they feel like they're from completely different eras .
    Also the consistently bad challenges and just chaotic energy overall made for some moments that live in my mind free ironically AND unironically (Alexis and the hairspray lid, derricks reads to India, AM-BURRR, basically the whole snatch game, Henry cavill, Morgan jumping over crackers leg, "you're a liar and this is why derrick don't like you" etc etc

  • @ShatorluhTV
    @ShatorluhTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    “To all the people who hate this song…get some taste” I’m crying 😂😭

  • @zdaladorsey1152
    @zdaladorsey1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I cannot stress enough how much I hate All Stars 5. Wasting so many good queens like why 🥺

  • @themosteliteyoutuberintheu3162
    @themosteliteyoutuberintheu3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ngl I think what made this season disappointing the most was that it was literally just created for Shea Coulee to win (I love her and it’s not her fault but still) like we all knew she was going to win from the start, also the cast felt weird and had no chemistry between them either and of course the dumb “if you are not in the top you are in the bottom” rule.
    Also I agree Derrick should have stayed longer, we were robbed of so much drama.

    • @殺人光線
      @殺人光線 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for mentioning the lack of chemistry! This season felt a little uncanny to me and I couldn't really tell why. The improv challenges made the lack of chemistry stand out. Only 2 queens were able to volley off each other in the Snatch Game of Love, leaving Alexis to carry her group singlehandedly while everyone else flopped. And the TMZ challenge was... something else.

    • @themosteliteyoutuberintheu3162
      @themosteliteyoutuberintheu3162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@殺人光線 I 100% agree with you. I thought the challenges were dull and uninspiring and Alexis and Juju both did so good in the SG but were still put in the bottom because of the twist. The cast didn’t feel like an all stars cast, as some of them were very forgettable on their original seasons (Blair, Mayhem and India)

  • @vvjqm
    @vvjqm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mariah calling jason momoa “jc momoa” and then “superman” is iconic

  • @lukenaidoo208
    @lukenaidoo208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    for me this season felt rigged for Shea so it felt like a very anti climatic season because there was no way Miz Cracker or Jujubee was gonna win

  • @jonjoob7401
    @jonjoob7401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When i first watched episode 3. My predictions were literally “Blair And Mayhem: Worst Team”

  • @ThePoisonLotus
    @ThePoisonLotus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ...PEOPLE HATE I'MM IN LOVE?! I honestly write a new verse for every new unnatainable crush I have

    • @PureHoneyBoo
      @PureHoneyBoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I had to write a verse on each unnatainable crush I’ve had then I would probably have a whole discography 😂

  • @CamPalinSmith
    @CamPalinSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When Mariah didn't with episode one, I was genuinely taken aback.

  • @kylpyvene
    @kylpyvene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You bring up a good point here. If a black queen wins without the best track record, it's all about the track record. If they do have the best track record, it's "rigged for them". It's such a shitty thing about parts of the community

  • @sontaranmc2109
    @sontaranmc2109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d love a “if AS5 and 6 had a top 2” video! I did one for AS6 myself and ended up with 4 wins each for Ginger, Kylie, and Ra’jah, I think it could have been a really good season as well (though losing Ganja is a heavy tradeoff). It’d be interesting to see how our takes would compare.

  • @highonsugar6273
    @highonsugar6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mariah was ROBBED. Period

    • @michaelr289
      @michaelr289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No she was not

  • @KarlEmmanuelCamasis
    @KarlEmmanuelCamasis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i never understood why they call it a variety show and never award the best performances that offer variety ugh

  • @lucasoliver2571
    @lucasoliver2571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Now i'm hyped for the "What If AS5 hasn't rigged" video

  • @yupitsjessbbyx3
    @yupitsjessbbyx3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also a reminder when this season aired Mariah’s talent could NOT have been more relevant

  • @katwebbxo
    @katwebbxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Dumbledore verse and delivery though 💕💀

  • @JeremiahFuentes99
    @JeremiahFuentes99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Justice for Alexis Mateo I hope she does a vstw season sometime in the future so she gets a true second showing.

    • @unfortuNate99
      @unfortuNate99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You mean fourth

    • @Rhyster
      @Rhyster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unfortuNate99 They said 'true' second showing implying that some of her seasons she was unfairly voted out

    • @unfortuNate99
      @unfortuNate99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rhyster yes but alexis has had two “second showings” so far lol. She was on s3, as1, and as5.

    • @Rhyster
      @Rhyster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@unfortuNate99 bro, basic critical thinking skills. Not denying that she was on 3 seasons, but the comment is implying that 2/3 seasons she has featured on does not count whether it be to an unfair elimination or riggory. So although she has been on 3 seasons, she has only had one 'true' or fair season that actually represented her and her drag.

    • @unfortuNate99
      @unfortuNate99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rhyster lol all im saying is that maybe its not BS if shes tried drag race 3 times and failed? You cant just keep bringing queens back because their last showing was “invalid.” Its insulting to everyone on those seasons and it takes up space from other girls who are still waiting on a FIRST “second showing” (while some are on their third, fourth!)

  • @user-qg5tn7bf2p
    @user-qg5tn7bf2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Regarding the variety/talent show: I have the feeling that production is purposely rewarding "traditional" talent/show acts, in order to keep the original and creative ones intentionally small. On one hand to highlight that the show favours performers, trying to keep the "successful" acts/performers attached to the franchise afterwards (eg. The Vegas Show) and on the other hand to give unique acts less focus, for these queens not to be able to build a brand/reputation with an act that does not fully overlap with the branding of the franchise aka the franchise can keep unique talents small, as the franchise doesn't know how to capitalize/profit from them (yet)

  • @charlottecomeau1266
    @charlottecomeau1266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT BESTIES ORIGINAL VERSE HERE???? slayed. top 3 material honestly.

  • @marissahennen1079
    @marissahennen1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    what you said about people only questioning wins when it’s a POC queen is SO TRUE! it’s insanely frustrating because, tbh, i think jaida, shea, and yvie deserved to win despite not having the absolute best track record. i fell in love with them and their drag and seeing them get read for not having THE BEST track record when, as you said, no one bats an eye at willow pill makes it honestly so blatantly clear that people have some racist tendencies they need to work out.

  • @juancabarcas3043
    @juancabarcas3043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The fact that Blair was not even mentioned during the SHEMZ challenge was wild

    • @heymistercarter.
      @heymistercarter. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It honestly felt like even the show forgot she was there. They had filler girls they wanted to go, DA’s they wanted to push, and then Blair is… there.

  • @robb2biago
    @robb2biago 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Binge the high points! I’m a huge Miz Cracker fan, but I thought Shea was outstanding. I’m excited to meet and see Jujubee this fall. So much to think about, thanks for all of you’re incite. It was a shame to see Derik leave too soon, but I felt that way about Gia, her performance was so creative. And well, you’re sacrificed here on TV, but now there’s the Vegas show, and the tours back in full swing. Great for the fans to see everyone up front live. I met Miz Cracker with the Vivienne this summer, so I’m good. Kornbread, Crystal, prianka, man that was a great work the runway cast. Omg and Kylie, how could I forget Ms Sonic Love. Literally the most lovely person I had almost ever interacted with at a meet and greet. Cheers to all the talented ladies and how fortunate for us fans to see.

  • @crematedchanmama
    @crematedchanmama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "im in love" is such a good song idk why people hate it to much... repetitive? but its catchy

    • @acetheblackfalcon
      @acetheblackfalcon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it’s the stigma that it’s associated and attached to AS5. Great song nonetheless.

  • @reitakashi2626
    @reitakashi2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's tea they even edited out two of Derrick's best impressions. They really threw out such storyline potential. And I guess then they didn't know what to do with India so they bombarded her with questionable (except snatch game) bottom placements. Such a weird season in terms of production

  • @thomasdegroat6039
    @thomasdegroat6039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Totally disagree that Shea’s was the weakest Finale runway. That look is my personal favorite look I’ve seen on Drag Race.

  • @HomosexuaCalderu
    @HomosexuaCalderu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nicole Paige Brooks should've won AS5

  • @jimmyfab
    @jimmyfab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Derrick going home first was a HOT MESS!

  • @rebeccarichardson8669
    @rebeccarichardson8669 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the I'm in Love challenge, I don't think the queens had creative celebrity choices. Well Blair did Hannibal Lector and that was pretty cool. But your Dumbledore is so good. I wish the queens had more crazy choices like that.

  • @melindamuller4466
    @melindamuller4466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To me, Mariah should have won episode 1.

  • @MrCyberGal
    @MrCyberGal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd love to see a "What if AS5/6 had the Top 2 format".

  • @joshualuke7003
    @joshualuke7003 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Small objection here: people DID talk about Kylie winning with a poor track record but we all got called 'transphobic' for it and most people are thus scared to mention it. So on the one hand we're getting called racist for not calling out underwhelming white winners but when we do and point out their objective win numbers and say TKB or Rajah deserved to win we're transphobic 🤷‍♂ It's almost as if some of us are judging based on skill, talent and charisma instead of the amount of melanin in someone's skin or whether they identify with their birth sex or not.

  • @bloodysweetzombiegirl
    @bloodysweetzombiegirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Shea was even shocked she beat Alyssa in that lip sync. 🤷‍♀️

  • @smargs
    @smargs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When are you gonna drop your piece on spotify? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @popfan5412
    @popfan5412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PLEASE WRITE MORE VERSE!!! I’m in love with that verse

  • @GraceJ2
    @GraceJ2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For the episode 4 challenge, you didn't mention Blair at all and to me Blair did the absolute worst challenge. Juju & Miz carried their whole scene and Blair said like one thing. Blair should've been in the bottom but she got saved for like no reason.

  • @nuckertix
    @nuckertix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the “dumbledore!” is giving potter puppet pals and i love it

  • @gabsolute
    @gabsolute 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started watching drag race in 2020 just before quarantine. And even as a newer fan of drag race who has only watched one season [Season 12] I could tell that something was different. I could tell there were weird song choices, weird challenges and lackluster storylines.

  • @arthurgabriel7715
    @arthurgabriel7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m in love is in my top 2 songs from rpdr, it’s really chill and lovely.
    Btw, your dumbledore verse was so good !!

  • @suchabeautifuldestroyer
    @suchabeautifuldestroyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive heard that the Morgan v Cracker lipsync had to be done over because Morgan assassinated Cracker in the first take and they had to have Morgan take it down a notch to make it look more like a tie

  • @Sh00sx
    @Sh00sx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IM SO HAPPY U DID UR VERSE ON DUMBLEDORE HE IS SUCH AN ICON

  • @GoMulanGo
    @GoMulanGo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also imo If Mariah had done her gag with the red paint at the END of the performance it would’ve been a better climax and more impactful and would’ve landed her in the top. By doing it near the beginning/middle, the performance peaked too early and it somewhat was downhill from there. The piece was BEAUTIFUL and important but I feel like that was the biggest mistake she made there.

  • @fkagreg
    @fkagreg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    „I don‘t know how many queens spend their time at best western“ *looks at trixie motel* well theres at least one!🤣

  • @allisonmoore6700
    @allisonmoore6700 ปีที่แล้ว

    seriously appreciate the level of detail you go into in these videos!

  • @Garbospace
    @Garbospace ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if they did a season where it's just the girls who got sent home first

  • @KatieMarquez97
    @KatieMarquez97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YOUR VERSE?!?!?!? AMAZING!!!

  • @nav8275
    @nav8275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the challenge producers on the drag her podcast said that they edited shea to perform better than Jujubee in the last challenge when it was the opposite.

  • @SkySantana
    @SkySantana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    we knew from the announcement of all stars 5 that it was sheas season
    even tho jujubee is literally the most robbed in the history of drag race aside from shangela.

  • @chrisbuckley1785
    @chrisbuckley1785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    They did Alexis so dirty that whole season. She was the best and they paid her dust.

    • @Dark_Aeon
      @Dark_Aeon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When was she the best? Not trying to be shady I just want to understand this point of view

    • @johneisleytiu5110
      @johneisleytiu5110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dark_AeonDid they stutter?

  • @elizabethguarnieri6606
    @elizabethguarnieri6606 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your verse about Gandalf is THE BEST verse ever and I'm now going to search to see if you uploaded it as just a segment I can send to all of my RDR friends

  • @sweetandkindhearted
    @sweetandkindhearted 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a visual person I’m glad to see a riggery video because the discussion videos just aren’t doing it for me without visuals attached.

  • @heyitsella2944
    @heyitsella2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    AHHH I LOVE YOUR IM IN LOVE VERSE SO MUCHHHH

  • @downhillracers
    @downhillracers ปีที่แล้ว +4

    jujubee was sooo amazing this season. peak juju. to me she made the season and should've won. i also thought alexis was fantastic and deserved to go further