Interestingly, Land Raiders are only used by Astartes and Custodes, no other faction in Imperium is permitted to use them, despite being very common model across Imperium during the Great Crusade. When the Horus Heresy started and numerous important Forge Worlds were lost, Emperor decreed every Land Raider conscripted for Astartes use. After Heresy ended and Emperor got stuck on his throne, he never had a change to rescind his order and it is upheld as a holy decree even ten millenia later.
DK's flat denial in response to learning about Arkan Land feeds my soul. But they didn't reach the heady heights of realising that the Emperor could be called Jimmy Space and they are his Space Marines.
On the Primaris in a rhino thing: There is actually a joke in The Gate of Bones where a squad of Imperial Fist Intercessors are stuffed in a Sisters of Battle Rhino. They talk about how, in all the battle scenarios Cawl prepared them for, none involved riding to battle hunched over in a vehicle too small for them.
Now need a goofy Space Marine Chapter that is just clowns. And a Rhino can hold twice as many Primaris Marines than is physically impossible and some Warp Chaos Magic going on. Yeah...I'd have to make them a Chaos Faction or make a counterpart that is lol.
I like to imagine the Primaris marines are too stuck up to ride in a Rhino. Ogryns are bigger than Primaris marines, yet 4 of them can stuff themselves into a Chimera.
In case they're curious about early tanks; the treads and "bow" (they were a navy project originally) are on purpose. They were so that they could crawl over barbed wire and trenches. They effectively bridge them, singlehandedly, with the bow crashing down on the other side of the trench when the balance shifts. Their purpose was very different to modern tanks. Why would that design exist in 40k? Someone at GW **REALLY** likes WW1.
The inventor of the Lasgun, Merrick Gun, coined the term “Las” as the innovation was the last of his long line, and he had a very difficult time pronouncing hard consonants, thus, it was his “las” invention. His "las" "gun", if you will. True story, it’s in the third Fulgrim book. Look it up it’s true.
Just because I want to see DK squirm a bit more: You know the Land Speeder? The little marine skimmer with anti-grav plates that levitates around shooting a heavy bolter, multimelta, assault cannon or missiles? ...guess who discovered the STC for it. Yep, ya boi Arkhen Land.
In actuality, the Sisters' organ missile thing is basically an MLRS, functionally. Using different lengths of launching tubes and different caliber missiles might actually produce the effect of having different tones to the individual launches, thus creating a playable rocket-organ. *Katyusha intensifies*
The treads that are angled up on the land raider and ww1 tanks are designed so they can travel over trenches. Instead of getting stuck when they tip forward: the up angled part snags the the other side and it pulls itself over
41:56 Why do I get the idea that someone sent Cawl a picture of an Eldar Fire Prisim and a Tau Hammerhead. And he just sat there laughing for three days, before putting the two pictures together, cackling manically, injecting pure meth into his bloodstream and NOS into his mechanical bits, before vanishing into his workshop. Months pass. The Fabricator General has become afraid of the terrifying banging and laughter coming from inside, and forbids anyone from getting near. Servitors begin to go insane when they approach. C'Tan and Omnissiah alike stare in horrified awe. Till finally, one day, the doors screech open... And out it floats. Mankind's answer to the laughter of the gods. Their own anti-son-of-a-bitch machine. The middle finger mobile. Fucking wonderful. :D
There're at a great bit about the Land Raider in the book "The Great Work" where Cawl chuckles as he remembers the way the guy who made the tank would stomp his feet and say "No! It's LAND'S Raider! NOT Land Raider!!" Other fun fact: "tank" was actually the code name the allies used before they were unveiled in order to trick the Central Powers into believing they were just moving big storage tanks around
The Astartes were named after Amar Astarte, who in turn was named after a Greek goddes of war and sex, Hence the name "Adeptus Astartes" Translates to Masters of warfare, or in the case of the Emperor's Children, Eternal Sex
@@camfalafranca800 more like was merged into Aphrodite. Aphrodite already existed, but some city state decided the few people who worshipped Astarte weren't allowed to anymore so they decided to worship Angry Aphrodite instead
The First World War Tanks are designed for crossing trenches hence the rhomboid shape . More ground contact spreading the weight. It all fits the WW1 aesthetic of warhammer battles. The guns on the sides designed to fire down the trench as they cross.
That's a great fact! Here's a pointless but related one: Said trench-crossing is seen in the bronze-age 40k FPS 'Fire Warrior' - where both successful and failed trench-crossing is seen in the opening level. Someone in that hive of poor game design knew their tanks and deserves our respect for that at least.
Cos he thought it was actual anti gravity tech like what they had in 30k, so rolled under it to stick a bomb on it, but got squished because repulsor plates push the tank off the ground as opposed to anti grav plates which actually make the tank float
Fun fact: The land raider debacle also applies to the land speeder. Also originally the name was Land’s raider and I’m pretty sure there’s book where he got angry about the name change.
Cawl, the great work I can’t spell his first name lmao but cawl talks about it in his book he remembers being there when the guy threw a temper tantrum because people kept shorting the name
Bricky convinced me to spend 800 bucks on an imperial guard army plus paint on the guard episode! Now I have even MORE guard!…god I miss my girlfriend..
My favorite part about the "land raider" situation (I think it was in the gods of mars series, or more likely, the cawl novel) was the quote from arkan land himself going "those idiots! They should have called it 'Land's Raider' or 'Land's Speeder!' That one even hovers!"
I can't believe they missed the Harlequin Land Raider when they were talking about Land Raiders. Rogue trader was a beautiful time and I wish everyone would stop forgetting it existed. (Since the Squats are back, maybe we can get that thing back too)
@@sequinbandit2097 In a throwaway bit of fluff in an old issue of White Dwarf, some Harlequins steal a Land Raider and decorate it like a big silly parade float to taunt the Space Marines. The Imperials immediately divert all their efforts to destroying the desecrated tank, and lost the fight as a result.
44:45 - A I know a guy who runs three of the Astreaus as ironhands in one list. He actually did better than me in a tournament with it too. Madlad bought three in one go, three weeks before the event and got them all painted up in time. The rest of the list is a techmarine and a squad of infiltrators
If only GW also showed some love to Land Raiders, most iconic 40k vehicle since RT. The fact that Primaris Crusaders can't embark on Land Raider Crusader is heresy in itself. Land Raider datasheets need proper update and love.
As a CSM player who gets even less versions of the land raider, it's sad that my big purple box has to keep getting sidelined. It doesn't even got any of what made it special in 8, and while sure Armor of Contempt probably helps that 2+ save the lascannons and THB isn't enough to justify it taking up an 8th of the list when fighting local players. All it needs is something like Assault Ramp to make it less crap or something in the current generation, gimme an excuse to carry angry terminators in it.
The Astraeus Super Heavy Tank is like putting a GDI Mammoth Tank and the Chinese Overlord tank together, make it float, and put it in the 40k universe.
The MOWAS 2 mod "ASV PLATFORM WH40K" or something like that has an amazing rendition of the Hurricane Bolters. My favorite use though is on the Dark Angel's base dreadnought.
Holy Shit! When Kirioth was making fun of the land raider I literally thought he’d make fun of bolters by saying they were made by HAROLD BOLT and then he fucking said it! What are the odds?
As a tank nerd, you definitely should make fun from old tanks. Unless it's P. 1000 Ratte! In that case you, your car and your home should be ride over by one.
I really think that, of the 30/40K tanks, pretty much all have 'Chode Syndrome'; Wide as fuck, with 0 depth. Like, just stretch every tank out 50% length-wise, and they all look acceptable, but most are just _especially_ fucked pugs in my opinion.
Thanks guys, I now have the image of a primarus (or however the fuck you spell it) space marine, in one of those shitty Italian Tankettes from ww2 that had 2 man crews, a machine gun, 5mm thick armour, open top and a max speed of like 5km/h on a road.
It took me a while to remember where I had heard Kirioth's voice, but then I remembered that he was on the Co-optional podcast back in the day, going full WH40k nerd with Totalbiscuit. I'm going to have to go and listen to that episode now.
39:42 Kirioth is correct here. If I remember correctly in the book Dark Imperium an Iron Warrior attempts to dive under a impulsor tank and strap a bomb to its underside. Unfortunately, the gravitic field was on and he was reduced to paste.
The Mastodon also completely opens up on the back as well, acting as a portable gate too. The idea is that you drive up to a wall, burn your way through with the melta cutter, bust through with the front end, open up, dump 40 Marines, then open up the back and let even more Marines storm through.
I remember when I was first starting my first real kitbash for Space Wolves was to take the Marine that's popping out of the Rhino and put two Storm Bolters in his hands
You called the Word Bearers a "really interesting legion"... Don't mind me, I just need to make a voxcall. Hello? Inquisition? Yes, I would like to report some heresy.
Ah Bricky i already have my sallies rolling around behind an astraus and let me tell you the first time you use Born Protectors to have this thing fire overwatch or have a flamer squad over watch this thing it is glorious. I haven't played with it since armor of contempt, but oh lord its coming.
Nah. I'd say Erda was way worse. She could have been super cool. Instead she suddenly showed up and died to Erebus... She was the second most poweful perpetual, only surpassed by the Emperor. The genetic mother of primarchs and astartes, basically a female Emperor. Then she dies, having contributed fuck all to the lore, exept muddle it... TL;DR: She was basically the Empress of the Imperium of Man. She did a stupid, pointless appearance and died to Erebus. She is such a pointless waste of a character. :(
@@probablythedm1669 not at all. Erda's entire existence is entirely lore breaking and itself devalues the gravitas of the Emperor. The point of the Emperor is that's he's so unique and above humanity and even the Primarchs that he's unfathomable.
I think it's kinda fun to have something stupid like that in a setting that takes itself seriously, but only if characters in universe also think it's stupid
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 Well they do. Land himself actually hated that they named it after him and the names were originally with apostrophes(like Land's Speeder). But most decided that was too stupid.
So my guess is somewhat correct. Land Raider (or as Akhan Land prefers, Land's Raider) is the tank used by Space Marine as their tank base. I was so looking forward to the monkey-scorpion hybrid that he created.
@@thomasolympia3731 Arch Magos Arkhan Land lived during the Great Crusade era. He created a 'monkey' with venomous scorpion tail tip (because he literally couldn't fathom why spider monkey would need such long and grappling tail for, so it must've have an offensive use).
33:20 oh you can make fun of the German SuperHeavies, believe me when I say that the Tigers were only good because they rushed em through with heavy Armor and excellent Guns....oh, and when the Tigers first debuted against the British in the Africa Campaign they were all swiftly knocked out by British AT Guns. No, Tigers weren’t invincible. Funfact: The Germans encountered MAJOR issues against the French and Soviets because they had tanks like the Char B1,KV-1&KV-2 which had juuust enough Armor so none of the Standard German AT Guns could penetrate them. It’s my own Theory that the Germans got traumatized by early encounters with Tanks in WW1 and early encounters with Heavy Tanks in WW2 and they struggled to penetrate them with a lot of their equipment(yeah Artillery and Field Guns in WW1 could clap the cheeks of WW1 Tanks but those took time to deploy, and had issues hitting their Targets), and they were like “if those inferior Bolsheviks and French had success with heavily Armed&Armored Tanks then imagine what us superior Aryans could do with Heavy Armor&Guns!”(dont personally believe any “race is superior, just capturing the thought process of what some literal Nazis may have had) Anyone that thinks the German Big Cats other than the Panther were genuinely well designed Vehicles is either ignorant,biased and possibly naive. Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing the German Big Cats but those vehicles had so many reliability and mechanical issues, meanwhile the Allies didnt rush most of their Tank programs as much as the Germans did and so they were able to have much better balanced Vehicles overall.(yeah T-34s&IS’s were all a bit shoddy, but they weren’t anywhere near as different to maintain as the German Big Cats.
Query. This is my first time encountering grav tanks so please bear with me. In dark imperium, there was a part where the ultramarines and their successor chapters (and primaris marines) had to charge through a nurgle-ified swamp/bog/river because the guardsmen can't. Why did they not use grav tanks? Was it because the Robot Girlyman "somehow" did not have those, but has a legion of primaris marines? I just find it hard to believe his strategic genius sometimes even when he has that creepy Archmagos Belsaurus Cawl backing him up.
I saw Adeptus uploaded a new video, “perfect, I’ll watch this while I build my gladiator…” I said to myself. I’m currently being crushed by the sheer amount situational irony 😂👌🏻also, Stomp stomp Vulcan lives! 🔥
I'm on the process of making my own chapter specific land raider variant I'm calling it the land raider Annihilator, replacing the troop capacity for a Imperial knight grade plasma cannon, and with two plasma cannon sponsons. Its to be used as a frontline seige tank
Sounds Awesome, I thought up an Iron hand variant of the Land raider ares called the Land Raider Morlaag still equipped with demolisher cannon but twin grav cannon hull turret, twin flamestorm sponsors + pintle assault cannon for fun.
The rhino reminds me a lot of the 113 and the fact there are so many variants makes me think that somehow Mike Sparks is now working for the adeptus mechanicus
I kinda wish they revamp the Capitol Imperialis for the Sisters, I believe Sisters got it in ultimate apocalypse (or some other mod, I don't remember). The idea of a literal full mobile cathedral city on titanic threads really would fit the Sororitas aesthetic.
«Cawl had known Arkhan Land. Land was never happy with the name given his tank. ‘Land’s Raider!’ Arkhan Land said angrily, that strange simian he’d cooked up in a jar jigging about on his shoulder. ‘Land’s Raider!» From “Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work” by Guy Haley
If it makes DK feel better, it's Canon from that one Cawl book with the Scythes of the Emperor that Arkhanand HATED the name of his raider and speeder.
7:30 oh my god that is AMAZING! Im just imaging a Convoy of these watching a Loyalist Titan Legio duel a bunch of Traitor Titans or maybe some Ork Gargants/Stompas while the Sisters of Battle are all just blasting The Kraken Theme or Davey Jones Theme
The mastodon is awesome as it's designed for sieges, using that front melta array to blow a giant hole in the wall, drive into it and open the doors, then open the rear hatch as well so guys on foot and dreadnoughts and use it as a tunnel, while the little command center on top is protected by the anti air gun
They forgot to mention the Lascanon + twin plasma gun loadout for the razorback. It was really good at killing heavy infantry but the power requirements kept causing the tanks reactors to overload. As such, the razorback would either shut down in the middle of battle and be destroyed by the enemy, or the reactor would blow up and destroy the tank with everyone in it. Genuinely interesting and pretty hilarious lore
pre 8th ed landraider versions: that were offical (from my memory): - godhammer (two twin linked lascannons and twinlinked heavy bolter - redeemer (two flamestorm cannons and twin linked assault cannon - crusader (two hurricane bolters and twin linked assault cannon - Prometheus (two quad heavy bolters) - Helios (two twin linked lascannons, whirlwind missile launcher) - achilles (two twin linked lascannons, thunderfire cannon) - land raider terminatus ultra (3 twin linked lascannons, 2 lascannon sponsons - Landraider Spartan (two quad lascannons, twin linked heavy bolter) - cerberus and typhon both technically use the spartan's hull with just sponson single heavy bolters or lascannons - the landraider with the twin linked assault cannons, demolisher cannon, twin heavy flamers was a fan build that became a bit popular and might have been featured in an warhammer 40k apocalypse document - the landraider twin linked heavy bolters, two hurricane bolters, two heavy bolters was chapter approved 2017 - the landraider two heavy flamers, two flamestorm cannons, twin linked assault cannon was chapter approved 2017
Armoured Vehicles: Tank - small crew, large main gun for direct fire SPA (Self Propelled Artillery) - Main gun primarily used for indirect fire APC (Armoured personnel carrier) - taxi with armour and maybe a small gun IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) - taxi with armour and a medium sized main gun Tank is not a catch all term for metal plated vehicle with treads.
49:42 no it literally is the Sicaran backwards, just like certain Guard tanks are the Chimera backwards with something in front of the doorway so it isn't a doorway anymore
For the Sicaran tank complaints on the placement of the Punisher's cannon vs the Venator's, the Punisher is meant for infantry killing, and infantry are more maneuverable/smaller than vehicles. As a result, the Punisher's cannon has to be placed on the turret so that it can rotate to track infantry. Tanks, walkers, and other vehicles are much slower, so the Venator can make do with rotating itself to track its targets.
I once won an competitive RTT with an Iron Hands Astraeus just surrounded by characters giving out buffs, and imperial fists thunderfire cannons in the back. The astreus had like a techmarine giving it "hit on 2s, 1 free hit/wound/damage reroll" and could heal it for flat 3 wounds a turn, a librarian giving it +1 to it's saves by casting psysteel armour (which back then ALSO worked on the void shields) and who could ALSO heal it using reforge. It was insane. Now that it's got armour of contempt I'm actually tempted to break it out again...
I remember in the Tyrant of the Hollow Worlds, Huron Blackheart had 4 corrupted Capitol Imperialis's that he used as mobile HQ's, even used them as amphibious craft to literally drive across the planets ocean to invade other continents with the Red Corsairs. And it literally took the Space Wolves everything to at least take ONE down, like they jammed a Vindicator in the treads of one just to slow it down.
The Capitol Imperialis was also mentioned in Guy Haley's Baneblade book, the use there is basically as a mobile command center that can also act as a staging area or repair facility.
40:09 in the dark imperium book there was a fragment where chaos space marine goes under the repulsor tank wanting to destroy it and imidietly gets turned into pancake made of blood and ceramite
Idk if there's ever been a model, but I decided to start a Iron Hands Kill Team, which quickly Turned into an army. I think they actually have something bigger than the Capitol Imperialis, with the Land-Behemoth Mobile Fortress, which is basically a Fortress Monastery on treads, and is larger than some void frigates.
They finally dropped info on the new Tank that was shown in the Horus Heresy Trailer (I am not talking about the Spartan assault Tank)!!!!!! I am referring to the Kratos Heavy Assault Tank (I am seeing a lot of God of War homage in these names)!!!!!
25:31 Harold Bolt, descendant of former Australian Prime Minister, Harold Holt, who went for a swim one day and never returned. His name has since become rhyming slang for running away or doing a bolt. "Gonna do a Harold Holt."
But there is more: The Malcador tank is a Legion tank, the Whirlwind (Scorpius), the Damocles Rhino for some orbital bombardment (and the Land Raider counterpart, the Excelsior, which are command tanks and can be played together), the Caestus Assault Ram which counts as a tank but is a flyer and usually deploys breacher squads and some of the old Land Raider versions have some interesting features (like counting as a SCOUTING vehicle which is also able to mess with reserves) or the Land Raider Achilles or the Mechanicum version of it. Or the Assault Drill, delivering death from below. Talking about Mechanicum: They have really crazy tanks like stolen from da Vinci's lab. And the Sisters of Silence with their D* tank... btw, the Legion Medusa kit uses the Chimera chassis but has another resin top built to it. They have been dropped for HH 2.0 though and everyone is on rampage because they were (too) good (they were able to shoot phosphex). The Typhon uses a 7" S10 AP2 blast that one-shots whole units and can be taken in squadrons of two. It has been nerfed down to a Vindicator though in HH 2.0... And though not a tank by rule there is the Legion Rapier which is like a little remote controlled tank that just carries an artillery piece and the crew stands behind it and operates from there.
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Interestingly, Land Raiders are only used by Astartes and Custodes, no other faction in Imperium is permitted to use them, despite being very common model across Imperium during the Great Crusade. When the Horus Heresy started and numerous important Forge Worlds were lost, Emperor decreed every Land Raider conscripted for Astartes use. After Heresy ended and Emperor got stuck on his throne, he never had a change to rescind his order and it is upheld as a holy decree even ten millenia later.
Which is kind of sad since I would love to use a land raider for guard, since, you know, WWI.
@@Rogerv1032 that British WW1 horse tank
I am pretty sure i once heared of Guardsman using a Land Raider.
@@urmensch12 are you thinking of Yarrick and his Baneblade?
@@loganparry2676 i dont really remember
DK's flat denial in response to learning about Arkan Land feeds my soul.
But they didn't reach the heady heights of realising that the Emperor could be called Jimmy Space and they are his Space Marines.
And the Cult Mechanicus was first made by Jonathan M. Cult
Ah, a fellow man of culture!
Ah yes. Sometimes you'd wish that something was only Yourhammer, instead of Lorehammer.
I was lowkey kind of disspointed that that joke didn't drop there
And Guilliman's real name is Rob Codex
On the Primaris in a rhino thing: There is actually a joke in The Gate of Bones where a squad of Imperial Fist Intercessors are stuffed in a Sisters of Battle Rhino. They talk about how, in all the battle scenarios Cawl prepared them for, none involved riding to battle hunched over in a vehicle too small for them.
i need a derp art of that lol
Now need a goofy Space Marine Chapter that is just clowns. And a Rhino can hold twice as many Primaris Marines than is physically impossible and some Warp Chaos Magic going on. Yeah...I'd have to make them a Chaos Faction or make a counterpart that is lol.
I like to imagine the Primaris marines are too stuck up to ride in a Rhino. Ogryns are bigger than Primaris marines, yet 4 of them can stuff themselves into a Chimera.
Jokes in Warhammer 40K? That's madness!
@@Qardo PEANUTS
In case they're curious about early tanks; the treads and "bow" (they were a navy project originally) are on purpose.
They were so that they could crawl over barbed wire and trenches. They effectively bridge them, singlehandedly, with the bow crashing down on the other side of the trench when the balance shifts. Their purpose was very different to modern tanks.
Why would that design exist in 40k? Someone at GW **REALLY** likes WW1.
[Happy gasmask noises]
Yeah, but in real life they sloped up in the front and in 40K they slope down in the front. Mr Land read the blueprints wrong or something
@@Sue_Me_Too They're hittin' that reverse gear HARD
@@Sue_Me_Too He read the blueprints with a mirror
Curious, what is a bow? It the thing behind the tank or am I wrong?
The inventor of the Lasgun, Merrick Gun, coined the term “Las” as the innovation was the last of his long line, and he had a very difficult time pronouncing hard consonants, thus, it was his “las” invention. His "las" "gun", if you will.
True story, it’s in the third Fulgrim book. Look it up it’s true.
Whether it's true or not, I hate it....
Merrick Gun
I don't know whether i should be impressed or terrified ... someone at GW has some weird humor or significant lack thereof.
It was invented by John Gun. Smh.
That’s stupid
Salamander: *looks at blood angels with puppy dog eyes*
Blood Angel: No
Salamander: ITS NOT FAIR HOW COME YOU GOT THE BEST FLAMETHROWER TANKS
*hugging* There There, ForgeFather. There there.
@@knightsolitaire3610 *ugly cries*
I don't know, but I'm one of the dozens voting we give the Salamanders the schematics for our flamer tanks.
Blood Angels: has Librarian Dreadnought
Thousand Sons: *sad dusty noises*
Baal predator is not the best flame thrower tank lol, that's landraider redeemer
Just because I want to see DK squirm a bit more: You know the Land Speeder? The little marine skimmer with anti-grav plates that levitates around shooting a heavy bolter, multimelta, assault cannon or missiles? ...guess who discovered the STC for it.
Yep, ya boi Arkhen Land.
he found TWO STCs!
@@henrypaleveda7760 What a chad!
Didn't he also find the land crawler aka a fucking tractor?
@@bonogiamboni4830 WE NEED AN ARKHEN LAND EPISODE!
@@hidden_hydra we clearly do.
In actuality, the Sisters' organ missile thing is basically an MLRS, functionally. Using different lengths of launching tubes and different caliber missiles might actually produce the effect of having different tones to the individual launches, thus creating a playable rocket-organ.
*Katyusha intensifies*
Katyusha?
"You're talking mad sh*t for someone in Beethoven distance"
The treads that are angled up on the land raider and ww1 tanks are designed so they can travel over trenches. Instead of getting stuck when they tip forward: the up angled part snags the the other side and it pulls itself over
I was halfway typing your same comment. but I figured someone had beat me to it. Good thing I checked.
So it was made to tilt over but also made to recover itself. Quite smart
It wasn’t made to tip over, it was made to combat going down. The tank wasn’t front heavy.
@@drakeredwing1910 same
41:56 Why do I get the idea that someone sent Cawl a picture of an Eldar Fire Prisim and a Tau Hammerhead. And he just sat there laughing for three days, before putting the two pictures together, cackling manically, injecting pure meth into his bloodstream and NOS into his mechanical bits, before vanishing into his workshop. Months pass. The Fabricator General has become afraid of the terrifying banging and laughter coming from inside, and forbids anyone from getting near. Servitors begin to go insane when they approach. C'Tan and Omnissiah alike stare in horrified awe. Till finally, one day, the doors screech open... And out it floats. Mankind's answer to the laughter of the gods. Their own anti-son-of-a-bitch machine. The middle finger mobile.
Fucking wonderful. :D
Perfect explanation to it,I also love the astreus
That is a floating ship at that point. Just a giant mobile weapons platform.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't even have any blood to be streaming at this point but yeah, that's pretty realistic.
@@johnoneil9188 The Imperial Navy might start buying some of these next.
@@demicus Shoot em from a nova cannon
There're at a great bit about the Land Raider in the book "The Great Work" where Cawl chuckles as he remembers the way the guy who made the tank would stomp his feet and say "No! It's LAND'S Raider! NOT Land Raider!!"
Other fun fact: "tank" was actually the code name the allies used before they were unveiled in order to trick the Central Powers into believing they were just moving big storage tanks around
The Astartes were named after Amar Astarte, who in turn was named after a Greek goddes of war and sex, Hence the name "Adeptus Astartes" Translates to Masters of warfare, or in the case of the Emperor's Children, Eternal Sex
Astarte eventually evolved into Aphrodite :) fun fact
@@camfalafranca800 more like was merged into Aphrodite. Aphrodite already existed, but some city state decided the few people who worshipped Astarte weren't allowed to anymore so they decided to worship Angry Aphrodite instead
I thought she was a Mesopotamian goddess.
@@TuShan18 that is ishta (poor spelling) which pre-dates them both
@@camfalafranca800 my bad then.
The First World War Tanks are designed for crossing trenches hence the rhomboid shape . More ground contact spreading the weight. It all fits the WW1 aesthetic of warhammer battles. The guns on the sides designed to fire down the trench as they cross.
That's a great fact! Here's a pointless but related one:
Said trench-crossing is seen in the bronze-age 40k FPS 'Fire Warrior' - where both successful and failed trench-crossing is seen in the opening level.
Someone in that hive of poor game design knew their tanks and deserves our respect for that at least.
good to see another episode with Kirioth!
We love to see it
This is like seeing a doppelganger that looks only slightly different
I was wondering when he was coming back for another episode. Hopefully they’ll have him on when they do imperial knights.
"Theres a Brit in the walls."
Edit: Yeah, in the books a Chaos Marine gets flattened into paper by one of those antigrav tanks.
Cos he thought it was actual anti gravity tech like what they had in 30k, so rolled under it to stick a bomb on it, but got squished because repulsor plates push the tank off the ground as opposed to anti grav plates which actually make the tank float
@@matthewbeattie Cawl's anti-grav tech is like having millions of tiny fists all punching the ground to provide lift. Very subtle tech.
Fun fact: The land raider debacle also applies to the land speeder.
Also originally the name was Land’s raider and I’m pretty sure there’s book where he got angry about the name change.
Cawl, the great work
I can’t spell his first name lmao but cawl talks about it in his book he remembers being there when the guy threw a temper tantrum because people kept shorting the name
Bricky convinced me to spend 800 bucks on an imperial guard army plus paint on the guard episode! Now I have even MORE guard!…god I miss my girlfriend..
Brother, women are temporary.
The Guard is eternal.
Yeah women are cool and all but have you ever been chillin in your garage with your boys and throwing dice and laughing and shit.
Perhaps ask her if she'd consider spicing things up with some Cadian cosplay?
@@alexvaraderey Cadia stands!
I also miss this guy's girlfriend.
My favorite part about the "land raider" situation (I think it was in the gods of mars series, or more likely, the cawl novel) was the quote from arkan land himself going "those idiots! They should have called it 'Land's Raider' or 'Land's Speeder!' That one even hovers!"
I can't believe they missed the Harlequin Land Raider when they were talking about Land Raiders. Rogue trader was a beautiful time and I wish everyone would stop forgetting it existed. (Since the Squats are back, maybe we can get that thing back too)
I’m sorry, the what? I can’t find anything on this
@@sequinbandit2097 In a throwaway bit of fluff in an old issue of White Dwarf, some Harlequins steal a Land Raider and decorate it like a big silly parade float to taunt the Space Marines. The Imperials immediately divert all their efforts to destroying the desecrated tank, and lost the fight as a result.
@@sequinbandit2097 back during Rogue Trader all playable factions had to share Land Raiders due to a lack of vehicle models
@@raycearcher5794 I love this
@@commissarlegion1413 ooooooh, alright that... doesnt make sense but I understand at least. I'm only just getting into 40K
44:45 - A I know a guy who runs three of the Astreaus as ironhands in one list. He actually did better than me in a tournament with it too. Madlad bought three in one go, three weeks before the event and got them all painted up in time. The rest of the list is a techmarine and a squad of infiltrators
I'm calling it: all those tank episodes are building up to ORK LOOTED TANK
"Dis tank makes da loudest BOOM!"
Virgin: NO, IMPERIAL TANK DESIGNS ARE JUST BOXES ON TRACKS WITH IMPRACTICALLY BIG GUNS!!!
Chad: *Yes, and?*
Your point is what exactly?
All tanks are metal boxes idk what you are one about
ilikeboxeswithwheels
We should take away their metal boxes.
As a massive tank geek, yes. I hate that my kin won't let us enjoy it.
If only GW also showed some love to Land Raiders, most iconic 40k vehicle since RT. The fact that Primaris Crusaders can't embark on Land Raider Crusader is heresy in itself. Land Raider datasheets need proper update and love.
As a CSM player who gets even less versions of the land raider, it's sad that my big purple box has to keep getting sidelined. It doesn't even got any of what made it special in 8, and while sure Armor of Contempt probably helps that 2+ save the lascannons and THB isn't enough to justify it taking up an 8th of the list when fighting local players. All it needs is something like Assault Ramp to make it less crap or something in the current generation, gimme an excuse to carry angry terminators in it.
Astraeus is basically a Thunderhawk with Gravplates.
Thunderhawk has that bigass battle cannon though
No no no. The Thunderhawk is an Astraeus with wings.
Until fourth edition, the imperial dozer blade was called "effective troop clearance", and yes, that was the official name.
Thought it would be corpse clearer or aomething else along that vain
@@AlexWithington I'm gonna graffiti this onto my leman russ dozer blades, thank you for the idea!
@@ConfusedGuardsman My chimera for my questionably traitorous merc guard has 'Corpse Starch Processing, Enquire Below'
The Astraeus Super Heavy Tank is like putting a GDI Mammoth Tank and the Chinese Overlord tank together, make it float, and put it in the 40k universe.
Make that the emperor overlord
@@AlexWithington ah, yep.
The MOWAS 2 mod "ASV PLATFORM WH40K" or something like that has an amazing rendition of the Hurricane Bolters. My favorite use though is on the Dark Angel's base dreadnought.
Holy Shit! When Kirioth was making fun of the land raider I literally thought he’d make fun of bolters by saying they were made by HAROLD BOLT and then he fucking said it! What are the odds?
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE HAROLD BOLT?
WHATS NEXT FUCKIN JIMMY LASGUN
@@mr.potato2223 The Land Raiders and Land Speeders were named such because their inventor's name was Arkhan Land.
The lasgun creator had a hard time pronouncing constants and the gun was his final creation thus the weapon was his "las" creation
Cyanideinmycereal
I said Harry Bolt, got a little annoyed when he came out with Harold.
@@mr.potato2223 its sir JOHNNY LAS
R.I.P.
Bricky's mortgage.
(It died so Big Wang Tanks could flourish)
As a tank nerd, you definitely should make fun from old tanks.
Unless it's P. 1000 Ratte! In that case you, your car and your home should be ride over by one.
Everyone should worship-pray the Great Horned Ratte, yes-yes.
Yeah, but how can the Ratte run me over if it can't move?
What does a vampire and the P. 1000 Ratte have in common? Neither can cross a bridge.
I really think that, of the 30/40K tanks, pretty much all have 'Chode Syndrome'; Wide as fuck, with 0 depth.
Like, just stretch every tank out 50% length-wise, and they all look acceptable, but most are just _especially_ fucked pugs in my opinion.
Thanks guys, I now have the image of a primarus (or however the fuck you spell it) space marine, in one of those shitty Italian Tankettes from ww2 that had 2 man crews, a machine gun, 5mm thick armour, open top and a max speed of like 5km/h on a road.
It's spelled "Primaris"
@@flawlesstheory5111 thank you, dyslexia plus sleep deprivation do not make a good combination when trying to spell.
@@kiritotheabridgedgod4178 or fake latin when the main language is obscure enough.
It took me a while to remember where I had heard Kirioth's voice, but then I remembered that he was on the Co-optional podcast back in the day, going full WH40k nerd with Totalbiscuit.
I'm going to have to go and listen to that episode now.
“I just wanted to hear the anger, and the panic.” 10/10 EXCELLENT EPISODE!
I always figured the land raider was a reference to the first tank being known as the land ship
Saying "STL" by accident was the funniest thing, I'm glad Shy caught it!
39:42
Kirioth is correct here.
If I remember correctly in the book Dark Imperium an Iron Warrior attempts to dive under a impulsor tank and strap a bomb to its underside. Unfortunately, the gravitic field was on and he was reduced to paste.
The Mastodon also completely opens up on the back as well, acting as a portable gate too. The idea is that you drive up to a wall, burn your way through with the melta cutter, bust through with the front end, open up, dump 40 Marines, then open up the back and let even more Marines storm through.
I swear that somehow Aperture is still present in 40k because of how absurd human weapons look.
“We do what we do because we can.”
I personally would like to see Kirioth featured more regularly on the show. I really enjoy the dynamic with him, Bricky and, DK.
Chapter keep: explodes
Rynns Might: And I took it personally
I remember when I was first starting my first real kitbash for Space Wolves was to take the Marine that's popping out of the Rhino and put two Storm Bolters in his hands
WW1 tanks were designed to be bullet proof and traverse through no mans land and over the trenches. That's why they're that shape.
You know, the Word bearers make their tanks and vehicles look amazing, with all.their books, scrolls and flames? They're a really interesting legion
You called the Word Bearers a "really interesting legion"... Don't mind me, I just need to make a voxcall.
Hello? Inquisition? Yes, I would like to report some heresy.
@@probablythedm1669 Eyyyyyyyyyyy you've a reached a Lorgar's pizza palace, what's ya ordering?
Kirioth just needs to join AdRic full time as the third host of the show. Each time he's been on has just been so much fun.
I would like to see more episodes with Kirioth, I really like the dynamics of everyone.
Kuddos to Kirioth for convincing Bricky of making that purchase, enjoy your check from GW good sir.
*Sees someone bring in a Mastodon*
"Guys! Get the Void Dragon!"
Probably the red scorpions would bring in a mastodon super heavy siege transport
Your army is never complete without a couple Rhinos or a Land Raider
Ah Bricky i already have my sallies rolling around behind an astraus and let me tell you the first time you use Born Protectors to have this thing fire overwatch or have a flamer squad over watch this thing it is glorious. I haven't played with it since armor of contempt, but oh lord its coming.
At this point they are trolling us by making the thumbnail show Blood Angels
"Let me tell you the tale of Lazarus Gunn, the inventor of the Lasgun..."
The retcon with Arkan Land is the single most pointless stupid thing in 40k.
Nah. I'd say Erda was way worse. She could have been super cool. Instead she suddenly showed up and died to Erebus... She was the second most poweful perpetual, only surpassed by the Emperor. The genetic mother of primarchs and astartes, basically a female Emperor. Then she dies, having contributed fuck all to the lore, exept muddle it...
TL;DR: She was basically the Empress of the Imperium of Man. She did a stupid, pointless appearance and died to Erebus. She is such a pointless waste of a character. :(
@@probablythedm1669 not at all. Erda's entire existence is entirely lore breaking and itself devalues the gravitas of the Emperor. The point of the Emperor is that's he's so unique and above humanity and even the Primarchs that he's unfathomable.
I think it's kinda fun to have something stupid like that in a setting that takes itself seriously, but only if characters in universe also think it's stupid
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 Well they do. Land himself actually hated that they named it after him and the names were originally with apostrophes(like Land's Speeder). But most decided that was too stupid.
It’s pretty decently within character for the really dumb old Lore that GW put into old lore because it was all shits and giggles
I think an Episode going over Space Marine power armor would be a pretty cool idea honestly
So my guess is somewhat correct. Land Raider (or as Akhan Land prefers, Land's Raider) is the tank used by Space Marine as their tank base. I was so looking forward to the monkey-scorpion hybrid that he created.
What ? I’m pretty sure monkeys have been long extinct by M41-42
@@thomasolympia3731 nah its ok, Arkhan Land found the STC for monkey, so monkey is back.
@@thomasolympia3731 Arch Magos Arkhan Land lived during the Great Crusade era. He created a 'monkey' with venomous scorpion tail tip (because he literally couldn't fathom why spider monkey would need such long and grappling tail for, so it must've have an offensive use).
33:20 oh you can make fun of the German SuperHeavies, believe me when I say that the Tigers were only good because they rushed em through with heavy Armor and excellent Guns....oh, and when the Tigers first debuted against the British in the Africa Campaign they were all swiftly knocked out by British AT Guns. No, Tigers weren’t invincible. Funfact: The Germans encountered MAJOR issues against the French and Soviets because they had tanks like the Char B1,KV-1&KV-2 which had juuust enough Armor so none of the Standard German AT Guns could penetrate them. It’s my own Theory that the Germans got traumatized by early encounters with Tanks in WW1 and early encounters with Heavy Tanks in WW2 and they struggled to penetrate them with a lot of their equipment(yeah Artillery and Field Guns in WW1 could clap the cheeks of WW1 Tanks but those took time to deploy, and had issues hitting their Targets), and they were like “if those inferior Bolsheviks and French had success with heavily Armed&Armored Tanks then imagine what us superior Aryans could do with Heavy Armor&Guns!”(dont personally believe any “race is superior, just capturing the thought process of what some literal Nazis may have had)
Anyone that thinks the German Big Cats other than the Panther were genuinely well designed Vehicles is either ignorant,biased and possibly naive. Don’t get me wrong, I love seeing the German Big Cats but those vehicles had so many reliability and mechanical issues, meanwhile the Allies didnt rush most of their Tank programs as much as the Germans did and so they were able to have much better balanced Vehicles overall.(yeah T-34s&IS’s were all a bit shoddy, but they weren’t anywhere near as different to maintain as the German Big Cats.
You've heard of arkand land but have you heard of the emperor of mankind jimmy space and his space marines
Query. This is my first time encountering grav tanks so please bear with me.
In dark imperium, there was a part where the ultramarines and their successor chapters (and primaris marines) had to charge through a nurgle-ified swamp/bog/river because the guardsmen can't. Why did they not use grav tanks? Was it because the Robot Girlyman "somehow" did not have those, but has a legion of primaris marines? I just find it hard to believe his strategic genius sometimes even when he has that creepy Archmagos Belsaurus Cawl backing him up.
I saw Adeptus uploaded a new video, “perfect, I’ll watch this while I build my gladiator…” I said to myself. I’m currently being crushed by the sheer amount situational irony 😂👌🏻also, Stomp stomp Vulcan lives! 🔥
I'm on the process of making my own chapter specific land raider variant I'm calling it the land raider Annihilator, replacing the troop capacity for a Imperial knight grade plasma cannon, and with two plasma cannon sponsons. Its to be used as a frontline seige tank
Sounds Awesome, I thought up an Iron hand variant of the Land raider ares called the Land Raider Morlaag still equipped with demolisher cannon but twin grav cannon hull turret, twin flamestorm sponsors + pintle assault cannon for fun.
Fuckin love Kirioth episodes. You guys compliment each other's energy so well
I always liked how GW made the treads slope the wrong way on the Space Marines' tanks
"This is our new techpriest, Laszlow Gunn, and he has an interesting invention to show you!"
The rhino reminds me a lot of the 113 and the fact there are so many variants makes me think that somehow Mike Sparks is now working for the adeptus mechanicus
You guys should bring Baldermort on for a future episode!
I kinda wish they revamp the Capitol Imperialis for the Sisters, I believe Sisters got it in ultimate apocalypse (or some other mod, I don't remember). The idea of a literal full mobile cathedral city on titanic threads really would fit the Sororitas aesthetic.
The Royal Dorn tank better be straight up combat killdozer or I’m gettin me mallet
The Sabre reminds me of the STuG for some reason
«Cawl had known Arkhan Land. Land was never happy with the name given his tank.
‘Land’s Raider!’ Arkhan Land said angrily, that strange simian he’d cooked up in a jar jigging about on his shoulder. ‘Land’s Raider!»
From “Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work” by Guy Haley
If it makes DK feel better, it's Canon from that one Cawl book with the Scythes of the Emperor that Arkhanand HATED the name of his raider and speeder.
7:30 oh my god that is AMAZING! Im just imaging a Convoy of these watching a Loyalist Titan Legio duel a bunch of Traitor Titans or maybe some Ork Gargants/Stompas while the Sisters of Battle are all just blasting The Kraken Theme or Davey Jones Theme
The mastodon is awesome as it's designed for sieges, using that front melta array to blow a giant hole in the wall, drive into it and open the doors, then open the rear hatch as well so guys on foot and dreadnoughts and use it as a tunnel, while the little command center on top is protected by the anti air gun
They forgot to mention the Lascanon + twin plasma gun loadout for the razorback. It was really good at killing heavy infantry but the power requirements kept causing the tanks reactors to overload. As such, the razorback would either shut down in the middle of battle and be destroyed by the enemy, or the reactor would blow up and destroy the tank with everyone in it. Genuinely interesting and pretty hilarious lore
pre 8th ed landraider versions:
that were offical (from my memory):
- godhammer (two twin linked lascannons and twinlinked heavy bolter
- redeemer (two flamestorm cannons and twin linked assault cannon
- crusader (two hurricane bolters and twin linked assault cannon
- Prometheus (two quad heavy bolters)
- Helios (two twin linked lascannons, whirlwind missile launcher)
- achilles (two twin linked lascannons, thunderfire cannon)
- land raider terminatus ultra (3 twin linked lascannons, 2 lascannon sponsons
- Landraider Spartan (two quad lascannons, twin linked heavy bolter)
- cerberus and typhon both technically use the spartan's hull with just sponson single heavy bolters or lascannons
- the landraider with the twin linked assault cannons, demolisher cannon, twin heavy flamers was a fan build that became a bit popular and might have been featured in an warhammer 40k apocalypse document
- the landraider twin linked heavy bolters, two hurricane bolters, two heavy bolters was chapter approved 2017
- the landraider two heavy flamers, two flamestorm cannons, twin linked assault cannon was chapter approved 2017
Armoured Vehicles:
Tank - small crew, large main gun for direct fire
SPA (Self Propelled Artillery) - Main gun primarily used for indirect fire
APC (Armoured personnel carrier) - taxi with armour and maybe a small gun
IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) - taxi with armour and a medium sized main gun
Tank is not a catch all term for metal plated vehicle with treads.
42:25 That thing looks like its going to transform into a giant robot.
I could not help but just start laughing hysterically at the pipe organ/missile launcher thing.
DK just got Games Workshoped. Welcome to the family.
Each time he said STL I imagined a Tech Priest trying to send a file to his 3D printer via Octoprint or something. The Canticles of Extrusion
49:42 no it literally is the Sicaran backwards, just like certain Guard tanks are the Chimera backwards with something in front of the doorway so it isn't a doorway anymore
The capitol Imperialis is so big that you can make a home for your pet of it.
7:08
In dawn of war soulstorm, when this tank fires, it indeed Plays organ pipe music. Its not really great, but it is absolutely fantastic aesthetic.
"The Rogal Roller" or "The Dorn Dozer"
Your pick
Dorn dozer all the way
@@my-chemical-landmine2305 I'd have to agree
The Mastodon is so big, that in the "Dark imperium" books Roboute Guilliman rides in one.
You guys should keep doing more like these. As their great love hearing Kirioth.
For the Sicaran tank complaints on the placement of the Punisher's cannon vs the Venator's, the Punisher is meant for infantry killing, and infantry are more maneuverable/smaller than vehicles. As a result, the Punisher's cannon has to be placed on the turret so that it can rotate to track infantry. Tanks, walkers, and other vehicles are much slower, so the Venator can make do with rotating itself to track its targets.
I once won an competitive RTT with an Iron Hands Astraeus just surrounded by characters giving out buffs, and imperial fists thunderfire cannons in the back.
The astreus had like a techmarine giving it "hit on 2s, 1 free hit/wound/damage reroll" and could heal it for flat 3 wounds a turn, a librarian giving it +1 to it's saves by casting psysteel armour (which back then ALSO worked on the void shields) and who could ALSO heal it using reforge. It was insane.
Now that it's got armour of contempt I'm actually tempted to break it out again...
I remember in the Tyrant of the Hollow Worlds, Huron Blackheart had 4 corrupted Capitol Imperialis's that he used as mobile HQ's, even used them as amphibious craft to literally drive across the planets ocean to invade other continents with the Red Corsairs. And it literally took the Space Wolves everything to at least take ONE down, like they jammed a Vindicator in the treads of one just to slow it down.
That couldn’t be real 8 lascanons come on
“Bold statement person within lascanon distance”
The Capitol Imperialis was also mentioned in Guy Haley's Baneblade book, the use there is basically as a mobile command center that can also act as a staging area or repair facility.
Land Raider Penetrator is the Emperor's Children special variant.
37:24 Ben Booley! Great painter and all around lad for goonhammer
40:09 in the dark imperium book there was a fragment where chaos space marine goes under the repulsor tank wanting to destroy it and imidietly gets turned into pancake made of blood and ceramite
Hey, it is the Dreadnought guy! I just bought my first box boy this week. I am sure he would be proud.
Idk if there's ever been a model, but I decided to start a Iron Hands Kill Team, which quickly Turned into an army. I think they actually have something bigger than the Capitol Imperialis, with the Land-Behemoth Mobile Fortress, which is basically a Fortress Monastery on treads, and is larger than some void frigates.
They finally dropped info on the new Tank that was shown in the Horus Heresy Trailer (I am not talking about the Spartan assault Tank)!!!!!!
I am referring to the Kratos Heavy Assault Tank (I am seeing a lot of God of War homage in these names)!!!!!
His name is Jimmy Space...
AND THEY ARE HIS SPACE ,MARINES!!!
25:31
Harold Bolt, descendant of former Australian Prime Minister, Harold Holt, who went for a swim one day and never returned. His name has since become rhyming slang for running away or doing a bolt.
"Gonna do a Harold Holt."
I love that the outlandish Warhammer 40k weapons/vehicles can still be compared to absurd designs of IKEA furniture.
I love the tanks. They can carry so many little guys
But there is more:
The Malcador tank is a Legion tank, the Whirlwind (Scorpius), the Damocles Rhino for some orbital bombardment (and the Land Raider counterpart, the Excelsior, which are command tanks and can be played together), the Caestus Assault Ram which counts as a tank but is a flyer and usually deploys breacher squads and some of the old Land Raider versions have some interesting features (like counting as a SCOUTING vehicle which is also able to mess with reserves) or the Land Raider Achilles or the Mechanicum version of it. Or the Assault Drill, delivering death from below.
Talking about Mechanicum: They have really crazy tanks like stolen from da Vinci's lab. And the Sisters of Silence with their D* tank...
btw, the Legion Medusa kit uses the Chimera chassis but has another resin top built to it. They have been dropped for HH 2.0 though and everyone is on rampage because they were (too) good (they were able to shoot phosphex).
The Typhon uses a 7" S10 AP2 blast that one-shots whole units and can be taken in squadrons of two. It has been nerfed down to a Vindicator though in HH 2.0...
And though not a tank by rule there is the Legion Rapier which is like a little remote controlled tank that just carries an artillery piece and the crew stands behind it and operates from there.