The Word Bearers are Pure Evil | Warhammer 40k Lore | Uncle Sam
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- Continuing my look at the Chaos Space Marine Legions with the Warhammer 40k universe, we will be discussing the Word Bearers! A legion of Zealots, Priests, and Iconoclasts, these priestly adeptus astartes have a rich history to them! I hope you enjoy the video, and I thank you for watching!
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I love the Word Bearers precisely because of how evil they are, and one thing I actually noticed recently is that besides their grudge against the Ultramarines, they also act as a pretty good foil, being the zealous faithful to the Ultramarine's dutiful rationality
Very Very true! That is a good comparison! Thanks for watching!
They're also very similar which makes them even better foils. Both legions were recruited from the sons of defeated enemies who refused to the bitter end to submit. Whereas the Ultramarines' geneseed encourages deference to authority and teamwork the Word Bearers were forced to learn the sins of their fathers by the Emperor and his genewrights and went into the Great Crusade motivated by shame and penitence alone. Naturally though, as we well know, to develop children into adulthood through a heavy complex of shame and guilt does NOT breed healthy functional self sufficient individuals. Both legions were also jacks of all trades and really didn't specialize outside of UM being known for their logistical abilities and rapid deployments. Word Bearers specialized only fighting to the death in the name of a cause proving that having enough conviction IS a strategic asset and later daemonancy/dark rituals. Both legions are also known for their fearlessness and valor in spite of certain allies of theirs. Kind of why I don't vibe with giving Black Legion marines the best leadership when it should be WB as they're not afraid to die in the name of the Dark Gods like most traitor legion warbands nowadays
@@DewayneMcClure-bm2pjnot only that but at the dawn of the Horus Heresy, the Word Bearers and the Ultramarines were the largest two legions (the Imperial Fists and Sons of Horus were huge too)
The reason why the Word Bearers are dangerous is because they are the truest followers of the ruinous powers for they will fight for their gods and their gods will praise them and notice them, and that what makes them so dangerous for they will spread the word and worship of their gods.
Yup exactly! Thanks for watching!
Sounds like any religion
Sounds like any religion
I feel like the Word Bearers know how to engage with chaos on a deeper level as well. Such as knowing just the right symbols and rituals to achieve maximum warp resonance. Some such as the idea of betrayal or other emotions used as a catalyst for rituals, or knowledge of twisted geometries and ways to make pacts with warp beings that are far more intricate than the usual ways to get juiced on chaos. Pure fanaticism is a big part of it, but I think due to that fanaticism they’ve developed some pretty crazy spiritual/occult technologies (for lack of a better word). In some portrayals they almost feel like a kind of chaos-sith, with mastery of meditation and knowing even as non-psykers how to utilize their knowledge of the warp/faith for their own benefit.
Saqqara from the Fabius Bile books, and to some extent Sargon from the Black legion books are some examples of these especially monk-like Word Bearers in 40k.
@@sojh17 So whos ship goes faster a WB ship or a 1kSons ship. Whos got the better chaos lube? Or hell do the Iron Warriors punish the ship to go faster.
Funnily enough this video pops up not a moment too soon as I grow interest in the Word Bearers
NICE THEY ARE SO COOL
The eight fold path is calling you
Whispers in the warp
The First Heretic is a great Horus Heresy novel and well worth checking out if you're interested in the dastardly Word Bearers.
Funnily isn't a word.
Tbh the emperor did Logar and the Word Bearers dirty. He ordered the razing of the capital of Khur which was considered the holiest city in the imperium and dubbed the perfect city by the Word Bearers by Roboute Guilliman, an entire legion of Ultramarines, a custodes regiment and the imperial guard and then had the entirety of the word bearers kneel at his feet while he scolded them for pushing imperial truth and ironically not himself. It's also kind of a theme with the rest of the traitor legions.
Not a good reason to become a worshipper of the literal devils or to plunge humanity into the (second) dark ages of the recent millennias.
If Lorgar had daddy issue he could solve it without massacring countless peoples and ruining the best shot at rebuilding humanity had
One thing i like about the Word Bearers omnibus is its stark contrast to the Night Lords one.
The Word Bearers are shown as this zealous host of unstoppable faith, utterly crushing their enemies with daemon engines and a mighty warhost under the eight pointed star. Meanwhile the Night Lords are an ammo starved, depleted warband who eshew chaos as a faith, but embrace its uses as a tool against their enemeis.
This contrast is what makes chaos such a compelling faction for me.
Oh absolutely! I'm excited to do the night lords video, that should be out in a few months! Thanks for watching!
“God is real…. And he hates us” ~ The Blessed Lady
RIP CYRENE SHE DID NOTHING WRONG
So basically, the Word Bearers are more "coercive", more violent space Jehova's Witnesses.
Yeah basically LMAO
do you have time to hear about your lord and saviour?
Well champ, their not knocking on your door looking for a cup of tea and a chat about the good book.
I think theres this tripod dynamic between the Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, and Black Legion. Those three core legions kind of direct any mass of chaos forces with specialist elements of the remaining five. I do like the fact they are pushing the Red Corsairs more though. I want more renegades.
Oh yeah absolutely! It's super neat! I adore the iron warriors and that video should be out in a couple of months! Thanks for watching!
Alpharius sends his regards
that sounds like a lie
word bearers fear but two words
"caw caw"
BIRD MAN COMETH
anytime is good to remember, the best thing about lorgar is in the end he was right, mainly when you notice the unique thing that dont all mankind fell in Chaos is faith.
The most important point about the Word Bearers, that noone seems to notice, is: in 40k, they have already WON.
Isn't the Imperial Church exactly what we created in Monarchia? Wasn't the holy woman Euphrate Keeler, who founded the Imperial sect, a Slaaneshi cultist? Isn't the Imperial Faith, it's organization, it's creed, it's rituals based on the book 'Lectitio Divinitates' written by our primarch Lorgar Aurelion himself? The Emperor's vision of mankind without religion is shattered. What has taken it's place, is Lorgar's vision come true. The clergy, even the Inquisition, are but useful idiots to the primordial truth - by fighting the Gods and their followers, they are giving them strength, unbeknownst working for what they believe they are fighting against. The Imperium of Man shall fall, as it is it's own worst enemy.
So it is written!
EXACTLY. the word bearers WON. even the most ardent loyalists like Nathaniel garro and sigismund revered the emperor as a god because of that text. Thanks for watching!
"Raze Monarchia to the ground"
Doesn't matter how angry the Emperor was, his vanity damned the legion then and condemned humanity to unnecessary pain because any opinion of the Word Bearers actions thereafter would be seen as hypocrisy in their eyes, something Angron already saw being taken away from his destined death and the Iron Legion being tossed into the cold of high risk, no reward in the tasks undertaken. The crusade shattered.
Is honestly super sad for this legion, sure they were an insane zealots that would destroy and mindwipe everything you knew and understood, but they were infested with corruption and evil, and to be honest Lorgar if he was raised by anyone else he would be the most loyal and faithful of the primarch's.
It's genuinely tragic. If anyone is to blame, it is kor pharon more than anyone else. If anyone else raised him he would be in a much better place. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Thanks.
Yay, my favorite legion! :D
The ultimate tragedy, and irony. Truly, they are more a symbol of 40k as a setting than anyone else in my eyes.
Oh absolutely! I love them to pieces, thanks for watching!
@unclesamlore you guys are weird 😂 im jk I love all the chaos space marines. EXCEPT the word bearers they are the worse. 😂😂😂😂😂
Bonus is that the word bearers omnibus got a new reprint somewhat recently so it isn’t impossible to find
Exactly! It's an excellent choice! Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore I made the mistake of buying the old version for double retail price on eBay about a month before the new printing became widely available
Hell yes FINALLY a channel that does the Word Bearers justice!
So happy you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
The First Heretic was by far my favorite Horus Heresy book
My favorite Horus heresy book is probably slaves to darkness, but the first heretic is my favorite Warhammer novel period. It's sooooooo good. Thanks for watching!
The one legion that I find truly compelling. Very good video, lots of really awesome art too.
Thank you! I'm happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
I have to say I like them. They brought the whole Heresy! I find it very interesting that I almost never met someone who plays them in 40K. But in Horus Heresy a lot of people play word bearers.
I'm surprised people don't play them in 40k! I plan on making an army of them whenever I get the chance! Thanks for watching!
I'm surprised people don't play them in 40k! I plan on making an army of them whenever I get the chance! Thanks for watching!
We exist! Tho to be fair I am more of an eternal painter/kitbasher rather than game-player
I always put that down to the uniqueness in their HH army with the gal vorbak etc. 40k just doesn't have the same amount going for them
Imo the Word Bearers are one of the most interesting factions in 40k, and Lorgar himself is one of the most interesting primarchs.
I think the insights you get from them in their books are the closest any 40k novel really comes to engaging with its own fucked-up theological questions. For as dangerous and terrible they are, you get the feeling that they're the types who would joyfully and earnestly sit you down and explain at length why what we think is good is actually bad and what we think is bad is actually good before deciding whether or not you're worth further instruction or if they're just gonna spike ya.
Oh absolutely. It is heartbreaking and fascinating all at the same time. Thanks for watching!
The Word Bearers continue to be the most interesting legion to me. Always love them getting attention
I agree! They are incredibly fascinating!
Ive always imagined the way Word Bearers were taking over worlds kinda like how the Taliban and ISIS operates, especially in the way they go after the history in the region. For example, the IS tortured and beheaded the archaeologist Khaled al-Asaad because he refused to disclose where the ancient sites near Palmyra are
Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Thank you for making all these videos! Im struggling with bad insomnia rn and finding a new WH lore channel is like striking gold! I always love to hear other peoples takes on the lore ^^
I have to say, I loved the Word Bearer omnibus, the most memorable 40K series for me.
Oh absolutely! Love them to pieces! Thanks for watching!
Love your channel man. Keep going!
Thanks dude I really appreciate the kind words! Thank you for watching!
Great video. We need more word bearer stuff around here
Thank you so much! Happy you enjoyed!
Dude very good good video! 👍
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Yep! I put your stuff in the pinned comment! Thanks for watching my dude!
@@unclesamlore Always looking forward to seeing your new video
I've seen your art before! On steam!
I dont know where GW is planning to take Lorgar in the current state of events, but i imagine his end goal be something akin to what Grifith from Berserk manga series did. Or speaking of manga imagine the universe of Dorohedoro, demons and humans coexisting in a weird chaotic balance. Grim picture but not without its beauty i say.
Yeah I agree! It's an interesting prospect! Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore thank you for putting all the books into the video, i know what i will be doing in the coming summer evenings!
@@finalboss5966 you are welcome! Happy reading!
Your vids are top shelf
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words! Thanks for watching!
I find it fascinating that unlike the other legions who worship the gods for personal gain, the word bearers see worshipping the gods as it’s own reward. I feel like deep down theyre pure hearted because they genuinely believed the emperor was their god and wanted to serve him the best they could. Same goes with how they worship chaos. And Lorgar especially is like the only primarch who actually cares about Angron’s wellbeing unlike the other primarchs who just see him as a rabid animal
Exactly. Lorgar and guilliman in a lot of ways are similar in the sense they can be warriors, but they don't excell as warriors. It's really quite fascinating and I really want that dynamic explored more! Thanks for watching!
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I LOVE LOREGUY WAHOO
@@unclesamlore HES SO BIG AND WISE
Funny thing about the Word Bearers. Both after and during the worlds that remained most loyal to the Imperium were the worlds that the Words Bearers had brought into compliance.
Yeah exactly. I find that highly ironic. Thanks for watching!
1:15 crazy seeing the stylistic influence from Orthodox Christianity, the dudes in robes pretty much wearing the exact vestments of a schemamonk
They’re the one Legion that achieved their ultimate goal: find their true Gods and do their bidding for all time…doesn’t matter how or who gets the job done, as long as it moves chaos as a whole forward in the setting, they’re happy. Also their undivided status allows autonomy from the shackles of one God or another. You nailed it man great job
Thanks dude! I'm happy you liked it! Thanks for watching!
Shadows of the Past short story. With Corvax and Lorgar. If Lorgar comes back I think they will have to bring Corvax back as well with what is set up in that story.
My ideal return primarch lineup is vulkan corax dorn the khan lion and guilliman. Not every loyalist primarch coming back makes it more interesting to me. And since lorgar is basically back, I AM EXCITED FOR THAT. thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Yes Vulkan is on the top of my list as well with Corax second. If you haven’t read that story it’s a good setup for an epic battle.
Please, Lorgar is the epitome of a fence sitter, penning both the Lectitio Divintatus and the book of Lorgar.
Lorgar did nothing wrong!
LORGAR IS BEST MAN
The false emperor had it coming
The Emperor did not in fact evacuate Manarchia before having it orbitally bombarded.
Oh no he did, the entire first chapter of the book details how the ultramarines are badgering the civilians to get out of the city. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Guilliman tried that, but so far as I know, not on Emperor's order
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Especially if the joker has one. I feel bad for that table.
In the Shadow Crusade, Erebus used an ingredient for a spell that was something like, “ashes from betrayed kinsman”. They bad.
How dare you kill me in chivalry 2
HEHEHEHEHEH
I hate the Word Bearers more than any legion, and yet, they don’t do anything nearly as awful as the other legions, yet they do nothing nearly as awful as their cousin legions, which I find interesting.
They are the weird middle of the road that I find fascinating! Thanks for watching!
Yes they do. Anthony Reynolds' Word Bearers Omnibus covers this. They're just as vile as a Night Lord or Emperor's Children marine, it's just that unlike the Night Lord they actually believe in their ideology. And unlike the Noise Marine he worships three other malevolent deities doing all the atrocities they tell him to commit as well
Fair enough but as long as you don't bring that hate into the real world against people like me who just want to play a table top game as the word bearers and ain't morally judging people because of the army those chose to play it's fine, I feel like this needs to be said because wow do some people take 40k lore way to seriously and thinks it gives them a right to straight up verbally abuse you and hate you.
Word bearers used to love and worship the Emperor.
Where the other legions fight the Imperium through sheer military might, the Word bearers fight the Imperium by targeting it's very heart and soul, it's faith. For them, it's not a war fought with weapons, tanks and fleet formations. It's a war of ideas. A war fought with words. A war for the very hearts and minds of every human in the galaxy. What good is there to having the best most advance wargear if you have no men with the faith in your cause to be willing to fight for you, or worse, gladly take those weapons and use them on YOU cause you're an idiotic infidel TYRANNT that just unknowingly handed a weapon to your greatest enemy.
Exactly! That is part of the reason I find them so engaging! Thanks for watching!
NOW Can you do a 180 and do the atheist night lords?
I will in the next couple of months! I plan on covering all of the traitor legions! Thanks for watching!
WBs are interesting simply because unlike most of the other traitor legions they genuenly do believe they're doing the right thing because they see power as divine and the divine can do no wrong.
Their perception of reality is not being warped like the Death Guard or World Eaters, diluted like the Emperor's Children, nor are they cynical like the Black Legion or Thousand Sons. No, they looked into the abyss and when it looked back they didn't break, they didn't lose their minds, they fully embraced its cold piercing gaze with a smile on their face and simply said "God hates us and I am here to spread their message."
Word Bearers are true psychopaths. They have no sense of empathy yet their cruelty is juxtaposed by a presentation akin to preachers which are commonly associated with peace and harmony. They're almost like a harbinger of cosmic horror, uncaring and without prejudice they represent the will of the dark gods.
EXACTLY. GENUINELY. THIS IS A PERFECT SUMMARY. thank you so much for watching!
Truth? No. The word that summerizes the sons of Lorgar is "Faith."
their truth is their faith
While faith is an important part, they first sought out truth. They spread the emperor as a god because lorgar believes it to be true. He now worships the chaos gods for the same reason, so in many ways it is both! Thanks for watching!
the most religious legion
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
A legion of the zealous faithful are dangerous. A legion of the venerated faithful are monsters awaiting their divine orders.
And that's why I love the word bearers and am not the biggest fan of the templars. One are zealots, the other is more than that. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Death Is nothing compared to Vindication-Konrad Curze
there is no evil. there is only indifference.
Lorgar would agree with you 😂 thanks for watching!
Whys dmitry donskoy a spacemarine 😂
There just misunderstood that’s all
Very true! Thanks for watching!
The word to describe Word Bearers is not Truth. It's Zealotry. You did mention that later to be fair.
The reason why I say truth is because that is what they were devoted to first, then after a time they became more zealotous, even when they were worshipping the emperor. It's a bit of a chicken or egg situation to be fair. Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamlore Fair points. Word Bearers also have that skill of daemon wrangling which is worth some mention. Great video all around, well done.
@@unclesamloreThat's not even true because they swore to the Imperial Truth, which even Malcador the Sigiliite admitted was a straight up lie to protect humans from Xenos and Chaos (that worked so well). They were always supposed to be the indoctrination legion built to win hearts and minds not just purge heretics and aliens
I have a deep sympathy for Lorgar and hatred for the so called Imperial Truth, not simply because as Lorgar himself put it, it's a blatant lie, but because it's not even rationalistic or progressive. Many of the horrible aspects of the Imperial Creed originate from the Imperial Truth verbatum.
The Emperor or Fabous Bile can say all they want about how "it's not magic, demons, and gods, it's energy being drawn forth from a parallel dimension and sometimes that energy condenses into conscious extra-dimensional aliens", but the setting feels like it implicitly states that that's a semantic argument, a distinction without meaning.
The hatred of mutants, xenos, and heretics was still a part of the Imperial Truth, and maybe it's better explained by in universe texts and arguments that hasn't been shown to us, the audience, but there's no real genuinely rational explanation for why, other than "The Emperor says so", other than maybe heritics, but I'll come back to that in a minute. There's no rational reason to value the "baseline" human form so much, especially since that baseline is itself the result of millions of small mutations. Sure, many mutations can be considered harmful, such as crippling genetic disorders or the Orgryn severly diminished intelligence, but they don't constitute an outright ban, at least under no RATIONAL mindset. Sure many humans suffered under alien tyrants and there are many inherintly hostile alien species in the galaxy, but sheer statics states that there must be at least some alien species that are both compatible and useful towards humanity. There's no rational argument for humanity being special and more diserving of galactic dominance than any other sentient species. The fact that other species had galactic spanning civilizations and failed doesn't justify humanity trying, especially since humanity themselves had been onof those failed empires by the time of the Great Crusade. The hatred of heretics can at least be argued justified in position that other ideologies are holding humanity back and fracturing our species, which makes us as a whole weaker and vulnerable, but it doesn't make an adequate argument for why the Imperial Truth is the one true philisopical worldview. The best we ever really get to see is some tired arguments about "people have gone to war over religion", or "science has shown that there's no chariot pulling the sun, or Sky Daddy throwing lightning bolts".
At the end of the day, the Imperial Truth was nothing more than a religion trying to masquerade as a secular, rationalistc philosophy. Why the fuck was anyone surprised when Lorgar treated it as such.
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Bruh it's me lol
??? They are literally the only good guys in Warhammer 40K.
LMAO yeah fr😂 thanks for watching!
Read the omnibus, they are just straight up awful
The legion or the books? Thanks for watching!
@@unclesamloreThe legion itself. The have this thing they do when they conquer a world which is to take millions of the world's population, human or Xenos, and liquefy them to use the "Blood Mortar" to build a massive Cathedral/Warp conduit referred to as the Gehemehnet that spreads chaotic corruption across the world making daemons not only easier to summon but also eventually transforming the planet into a Daemon World permanently.
@@unclesamlore the legion, the books are great
@@DewayneMcClure-bm2pjThe Gehemenet is such a fucked up concept. The chapters from the perspective of that slave that helped build it were fucking harrowing.