Hey! Thanks for the in depth review of car adapters as manufacturers these days lie about everything on these small electronics. There’s one thing in particular that I’d like to see you include in future videos which is the total sustainable power output when all the ports are in-use. Again, great work here! Looking forward to seeing your next review video!
haha, yeah, that's a pretty tough one to access. I like to do the thermals for an hour, I just call it at that point, but yes, many do not make it that far.
Do you mean a radar chart ? They're not really ideal for this… however, a spider chart is perfect for presenting data where a decision is to be made and I think would work nicely for most comparisons on this channel. But yes, improved charting would make a big difference !
@@fiveangle Yes - I typo'ed and meant radar/spider charts as a good solution for presenting this data. This channel has a lot of cool and useful information, and improving the "style" of the final result presentation (instead of the default excel chart) may capture more of an audience (and other bloggers might cite the charts in their social media if they are pretty).
Hey @AllThingsOnePlace, do you think its possible to do a Spigen 120w GaN iii Test? love your testing methods & would love to see how that charger operates.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks, love your vids. I like when people bring actual data rather then just state what the manufacture already said & do a general unboxing and call it done.
Went looking for a vid on this, and low and behold one was yours ! (Video posted before I found and subbed to your great channel :) - I'm looking at the big daddy chargers and there's a bunch that have come out since then that support PPS. Baseus 160W, Wotobeus 120W, etc. Surprised the Baseus idle power is so bad… bummer ! May ping back here if I find anything interesting.
I have the 160W Baseus here to test but haven't done that yet. I need to do another round of these. Personally, I've been using the Anker one cause I already had it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thx ! On closer inspection, they buried the fact in fine print that the 160W Baseus only supports 20V output with a 24V input supply... so I guess if you are trying to use your adapter in a military hummer, you're okay ? lol. If you do another 12V adapter vid, rather than a quick mention, distinctly call out in every vid the big problem of most of them not supporting 20V even when they claim they do, due to very non-standard 24V input requirements. I just want to run my 4.25W@20V Magsafe2 USB-C PD Macbook adapter from my cigarette lighter along with my wireless iPhone charger mount. C'mon mfrs, is this so hard to understand ? =D
@@fiveangle This is not accurate, the C1 input(upper) has a buck-boost, meaning it will be able to create both 5V and 20V from the 12V input, the second connector will be able to create 15V & 20V only with 24V input. I just bought it and was able to charge my Lenovo Yoga C940 laptop with it.
@@MaratGoferman Thx for confirming ! This is even more evidence how the marketing info on these devices is abysmal and why the testing on this channel is so important ♥️
@@MaratGoferman Are you sure? This teardown video states at the 0:47 mark that 15V and 20V outputs are only possible with a 24V input. (I purposely skipped this charger because of that, so I can’t test it myself.) th-cam.com/video/L4owrdt4hew/w-d-xo.html
The efficiency is a factor of the change in the voltage. So if you have a large change in voltage required more work has to be done to change the voltage. So from 24 -> 5 is less efficient than 12 -> 5.
For me, the most important fact that you stated was, if you leave the power port on, this is how much each devices draws. Why you ask? Well, imagine what would happen if I forgot to turn my power port off, I go to get in my car at the end of my work shift, then find my batter in my car dead, oops. And hope that I was smart enough to keep a charged jump start booster pack in my trunk to jump start my car. Notice how none of these companies state this information on any of their chargers? Crazy
Yeah, the specifications are extremely vague on car power adapters. Yeah, I think I am going with the Anker as my daily driver because of that low idle power consumption, I leave it plugged in all the time.
I would love to see what the minimum voltage is for there rated power. I have a certain application where my 12V battery routinely drops down to 6V range. Even if it is half the rated power at the 6V that would be valuable to know.
The lighter plug is usually a little shorter but the contact points should be the same, the outer surface is one connection and the center has a pin for contact. I would expect these to work in both types of sockets. I haven't specifically done any testing. I haven't seen a lighter socket in probably 25 years either.
What an epic review........I'D LOVE TO SEE AN UPATED REVIEW COVERING all the latest 100w-160w car chargers and also your thoughts on whether it might be better for your car battery if you were to use say a 65w to charge your laptop that is rated to charge up to 95w (so it pulls less power from car battery, but hmm wonder if that would put more stress on the lower wattage charger) or better to use something like a 130w charger and if you feel that will be ok for the car battery....................Most of my use would likely be just for the phone and occasionally charging a laptop if in a crunch and just need some juice to hold me over so likely 65w would be good, but would love to hear your thoughts.
I will have another review on these, I am probably not doing too many 100 - 160W ones though as they are beyond the ratings of the sockets typically. They're made so cheap and the contact point is so small, they get hot and melt or have to run on 24V to get the rated power. So, it's just a marketing lie. Anyway, I will review some of them. I will probably say something similar on the 160W one, basically don't buy it. In terms of wattages and compatibility it's really the device side that decides. If the laptop can charge from a 65W adapter, then use that in mobile and you won't run into issues with fuses popping.
hmm, I didn't see if any of these had the PPS modes. I know the Samsung phones like to use the 11V PPS mode to charge as fast as possible and I am not sure what PD modes are supported. They all will work. The INIU was a pretty solid offering though.
I bought the iniu because I liked the smaller size (also need smaller because my port is in the arm rest towards the top. So anything too big would be made bigger with a cable plugged in and being eventually smashed until broken). I also like it has a type c and USB A. My favorite part (as a mechanic) is the battery voltage meter. I imagine it shouldn't be too hungry to drain my battery as I left my 120w inverter plugged in with a Samsung super fast charger plugged in for almost a year. It's an always on port even when car is off and at times I'd get in the car with the fan on the inverter blowing because it's hot out. Great solid quality too!
Nice, as long as you drive a decent amount should keep things topped off. Yeah, it isn't like leaving headlights on (200+ watts versus 1 watt idle). I noticed my vehicle leaks through the port somehow so even when the car is off the voltmeter stays on with the INIU (at 3-4VDC). I haven't explored this yet but vehicle can't have a relay for the accessory port so no idea what they are doing that would leak enough to keep the device powered a little.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hmm. That's interesting. I don't see any reason to need to supply it with 3-4v. Either it's on or it's not because anything that uses the port needs 12v. Maybe it doesn't have a dedicated relay, but shares one and it's starting to fail? And all, but my high beams are led so now my system isn't as stressed for power.
Thank you again for your nice work,i would like to decide which car charger(with Wattage display like those from Baseus) 100W or over,is better ,taking in consideration price/quality criteria,keep up the good work.Just would like to mention that i have a Pixel 7 phone so i think it uses PPS
Car chargers get weird at high power levels. They might need more voltage than a typical car will supply or the current will be too high and it can trip a fuse or protection device so be wary of that. If only charging a phone you don't need more than 30 watts. PPS is less popular on these devices, out of this round only one has it. The Gubeter. I will have another round of car adapters at some point though.
Please the dependent factor in getting those wattages are the fuse being used...you increase the Fuse Amp and get a higher wattage...there rest of the circuit are basically how to make the charging safe...
I've had a lot of these things fail on me, but I lucked out with a Baseus 160w which has been used continuously for over a year no problem. I think the idle consumption is due to the display logic (mine doesn't have a display)
@@The_Ballo It’s funny you should mention that because I’m using the new Baseus 140W car charger that’s supposed to be able to output 140W PD 3.1 from the type-C port :)
@@AllThingsOnePlaceHopefully you can add the Ugreen 130W 2C1A, the Baseus 140W and the Anker 52.5W (similar to this Anker on paper but compact) to that comparison.
QC stand for Quick Charge and is a Qualcomm standard that only works with their phones, so it's not an older standard, but rather a proprietary standard.
@@AllThingsOnePlace fair enough, I must've missed that part. Interesting tests though, much needed and not something I've seen anyone else do. Maybe not specifically this test, but all of the other ones you've done.
@@LGNilssonThis is a first video of a different device type so the rough edges are certainly not smoothed out. Have to start somewhere and can't always make the same content. What do you think about a video comparing the various USB charging protocols? There are a lot of them, I am sure I won't get them all.
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh, don't get me wrong, wasn't complaining about the video, it was just a less interesting video compared to some of your others. That could be interesting, especially with some of the crazy ones coming out of china these days with 150W+ chargers. There are way too many proprietary standards coming out, but it seems like most things have a minimum compatibility with USB Type-C PD charging now, which is a plus, compared to how it was just a couple of years ago.
@Emmanuel GoldsteinOf course there are different versions of QC, USB A ports use QC 2 or 3. These are the most common way to get more power out of a USB A port. USB C with PD is compatible with QC5, so essentially, these are the same thing. A USB C port likely won't give you QC 2 or 3 modes though. That whole thing is still a bit of a mess. Obviously, preferences and requirements are so vast it is difficult to figure it out. I basically like having one good 5V charger, then I go for things with PD which is what my devices all use. I don't have any QC devices but everyone has different needs.
Too bad you didn't test these in an actual 12v socket. The heat build up is very quick and will likely shut down thr higher power outputs like the Baseus after only 10-15min. Please test this! Ive also wondered if the 12v socket is just a bad inefficient connrctor, since it just touches that pin. It's not like a snug connector with lots if surface area.
I did test in a 12V socket. One rated for 10 amps. I usually find it is the plug end that is bad. I melted a plug in the socket used in this video. Also, if the socket gets corroded at all then all bets are off. Being in a car environment it is not unrealistic. There are also really cheap sockets... that wouldn't be fair to test in. Could be a separate video showing that a lot of these plugs and sockets are awful.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yea that would be a great video! Any thoughts on why the tips are melting? Could it be that the push-touch contact is barely enough to make a good connection? Or that the current (depending on the tip) has to pass through a thin spring? You could test that too by checking the temperatures of the tip with it soldered vs pushed into the socket.
@@hornz5 Julian Ilett did a video on this a couple years ago th-cam.com/video/NNF-0G7C0hg/w-d-xo.html I think it could be interesting to check out more though.
Hey! Thanks for the in depth review of car adapters as manufacturers these days lie about everything on these small electronics. There’s one thing in particular that I’d like to see you include in future videos which is the total sustainable power output when all the ports are in-use. Again, great work here! Looking forward to seeing your next review video!
haha, yeah, that's a pretty tough one to access. I like to do the thermals for an hour, I just call it at that point, but yes, many do not make it that far.
Exceptionally well produced and informative video. Appreciate it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting stuff. You may want to consider using a radial chart to visually compare difference devices across different metrics.
Thanks for the suggestion. I need to do some research on graphs it sounds like.
Do you mean a radar chart ? They're not really ideal for this… however, a spider chart is perfect for presenting data where a decision is to be made and I think would work nicely for most comparisons on this channel. But yes, improved charting would make a big difference !
@@fiveangle Yes - I typo'ed and meant radar/spider charts as a good solution for presenting this data. This channel has a lot of cool and useful information, and improving the "style" of the final result presentation (instead of the default excel chart) may capture more of an audience (and other bloggers might cite the charts in their social media if they are pretty).
Wow one of the BEST electronic chanel like (style similar to great scott). I watch bunch of youre video.
Defenetly I will Recomend to others
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Hey @AllThingsOnePlace, do you think its possible to do a Spigen 120w GaN iii Test? love your testing methods & would love to see how that charger operates.
I’ll have to get it on the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks, love your vids. I like when people bring actual data rather then just state what the manufacture already said & do a general unboxing and call it done.
Does the kind of cable limit their power output? I have been buying alot of these on Amazon, but none charge super fast in the car.
Yes, the cable can limit charge speed. Also, the car charger may not have all the functions, like PPS.
Great overview & review!
Could you add the new Baseus 160W car charger to this lineup?
I have it, but haven't reviewed it yet. I need to pick up a few more of these to do a follow up video on these adapters I guess.
Went looking for a vid on this, and low and behold one was yours ! (Video posted before I found and subbed to your great channel :) - I'm looking at the big daddy chargers and there's a bunch that have come out since then that support PPS. Baseus 160W, Wotobeus 120W, etc. Surprised the Baseus idle power is so bad… bummer ! May ping back here if I find anything interesting.
I have the 160W Baseus here to test but haven't done that yet. I need to do another round of these. Personally, I've been using the Anker one cause I already had it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thx ! On closer inspection, they buried the fact in fine print that the 160W Baseus only supports 20V output with a 24V input supply... so I guess if you are trying to use your adapter in a military hummer, you're okay ? lol. If you do another 12V adapter vid, rather than a quick mention, distinctly call out in every vid the big problem of most of them not supporting 20V even when they claim they do, due to very non-standard 24V input requirements. I just want to run my 4.25W@20V Magsafe2 USB-C PD Macbook adapter from my cigarette lighter along with my wireless iPhone charger mount. C'mon mfrs, is this so hard to understand ? =D
@@fiveangle This is not accurate, the C1 input(upper) has a buck-boost, meaning it will be able to create both 5V and 20V from the 12V input, the second connector will be able to create 15V & 20V only with 24V input. I just bought it and was able to charge my Lenovo Yoga C940 laptop with it.
@@MaratGoferman Thx for confirming ! This is even more evidence how the marketing info on these devices is abysmal and why the testing on this channel is so important ♥️
@@MaratGoferman Are you sure? This teardown video states at the 0:47 mark that 15V and 20V outputs are only possible with a 24V input. (I purposely skipped this charger because of that, so I can’t test it myself.)
th-cam.com/video/L4owrdt4hew/w-d-xo.html
Did you observe any ripple issues with these chargers? thanks!
I didn't check some of them, I did in the newer video and they were mostly fine. Far from precision power supplies but good enough.
Keep in mind that the cigaret lighter port usually has a 10A fuse. To me a 100W adapter is starting to get a bit too close.
Yeah, and yet I have a 160W one here. I think it has to get 24V to do the full power out though. I'll find out, maybe I can melt some sockets?
Weird, mine has a 15A fuse and says on the cover max current 15A.
What are the odds the higher wattage versions of the CD130 are similar with idle power?
In the newer video, I look at a bunch of Belkins that all look the same, they were all over the place.
If you could hook these to a 24v system (and they supported that) would they run more efficiently?
The efficiency is a factor of the change in the voltage. So if you have a large change in voltage required more work has to be done to change the voltage. So from 24 -> 5 is less efficient than 12 -> 5.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Interesting, not what I was expecting. Thanks for the reply!
For me, the most important fact that you stated was, if you leave the power port on, this is how much each devices draws. Why you ask? Well, imagine what would happen if I forgot to turn my power port off, I go to get in my car at the end of my work shift, then find my batter in my car dead, oops. And hope that I was smart enough to keep a charged jump start booster pack in my trunk to jump start my car. Notice how none of these companies state this information on any of their chargers? Crazy
Yeah, the specifications are extremely vague on car power adapters. Yeah, I think I am going with the Anker as my daily driver because of that low idle power consumption, I leave it plugged in all the time.
I would love to see what the minimum voltage is for there rated power. I have a certain application where my 12V battery routinely drops down to 6V range. Even if it is half the rated power at the 6V that would be valuable to know.
Great suggestion! I will add that to the test suite for sure.
which one of these works on a power outlet vs a cigarette liter plug?
The lighter plug is usually a little shorter but the contact points should be the same, the outer surface is one connection and the center has a pin for contact. I would expect these to work in both types of sockets. I haven't specifically done any testing. I haven't seen a lighter socket in probably 25 years either.
What about the UGreen 69W? Does it reach its 69W output only when connected to a 24v plug?
Not sure, haven't tested that one.
Samsung car charger's review is missing. But overall, it is a very informative video.
Yeah, it didn't make round 2 either, but I swear I have it and just can't find it. I need to get organized.
What an epic review........I'D LOVE TO SEE AN UPATED REVIEW COVERING all the latest 100w-160w car chargers and also your thoughts on whether it might be better for your car battery if you were to use say a 65w to charge your laptop that is rated to charge up to 95w (so it pulls less power from car battery, but hmm wonder if that would put more stress on the lower wattage charger) or better to use something like a 130w charger and if you feel that will be ok for the car battery....................Most of my use would likely be just for the phone and occasionally charging a laptop if in a crunch and just need some juice to hold me over so likely 65w would be good, but would love to hear your thoughts.
I will have another review on these, I am probably not doing too many 100 - 160W ones though as they are beyond the ratings of the sockets typically. They're made so cheap and the contact point is so small, they get hot and melt or have to run on 24V to get the rated power. So, it's just a marketing lie. Anyway, I will review some of them. I will probably say something similar on the 160W one, basically don't buy it. In terms of wattages and compatibility it's really the device side that decides. If the laptop can charge from a 65W adapter, then use that in mobile and you won't run into issues with fuses popping.
Which do you recommend for an s22 ultra? I was looking at the iniu.
hmm, I didn't see if any of these had the PPS modes. I know the Samsung phones like to use the 11V PPS mode to charge as fast as possible and I am not sure what PD modes are supported. They all will work. The INIU was a pretty solid offering though.
Can you review Spigen 75W PC2200. It supports PPS on both ports.
added to the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you. Appreciate your work 🙏🏻
Nice vid mate
Thanks!
Could you do the dewalt car charger as well? They sell them in every Home Depot
Yeah, I have a couple of their power adapters to do as well.
I bought the iniu because I liked the smaller size (also need smaller because my port is in the arm rest towards the top. So anything too big would be made bigger with a cable plugged in and being eventually smashed until broken). I also like it has a type c and USB A. My favorite part (as a mechanic) is the battery voltage meter. I imagine it shouldn't be too hungry to drain my battery as I left my 120w inverter plugged in with a Samsung super fast charger plugged in for almost a year. It's an always on port even when car is off and at times I'd get in the car with the fan on the inverter blowing because it's hot out. Great solid quality too!
Nice, as long as you drive a decent amount should keep things topped off. Yeah, it isn't like leaving headlights on (200+ watts versus 1 watt idle). I noticed my vehicle leaks through the port somehow so even when the car is off the voltmeter stays on with the INIU (at 3-4VDC). I haven't explored this yet but vehicle can't have a relay for the accessory port so no idea what they are doing that would leak enough to keep the device powered a little.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Hmm. That's interesting. I don't see any reason to need to supply it with 3-4v. Either it's on or it's not because anything that uses the port needs 12v. Maybe it doesn't have a dedicated relay, but shares one and it's starting to fail? And all, but my high beams are led so now my system isn't as stressed for power.
Thank you again for your nice work,i would like to decide which car charger(with Wattage display like those from Baseus) 100W or over,is better ,taking in consideration price/quality criteria,keep up the good work.Just would like to mention that i have a Pixel 7 phone so i think it uses PPS
Car chargers get weird at high power levels. They might need more voltage than a typical car will supply or the current will be too high and it can trip a fuse or protection device so be wary of that. If only charging a phone you don't need more than 30 watts. PPS is less popular on these devices, out of this round only one has it. The Gubeter. I will have another round of car adapters at some point though.
Please the dependent factor in getting those wattages are the fuse being used...you increase the Fuse Amp and get a higher wattage...there rest of the circuit are basically how to make the charging safe...
All of these devices overloaded and shutdown before the fuse blew, the fuse is the last line of defense in a fault.
Hello, this is a factory for car chargers. Can I contact you?
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Please please
Make special playlist for car charger
haha, I only have two videos on it so far but yeah I can make a playlist for these, I will on the third video.
I want to see this test with the current crop of 100w+ pd chargers.
Yeah, there are some hard limits on those devices. They usually exceed the capabilities of a lot of the sockets in cars.
Most sockets are 120w at last nowadays. I want to see a 100w for my laptop
Love ur work... Can u make a video about the best universal travel chargers?
I plan to do a video on the universal input voltage most chargers have. Do you have anything specific in mind?
@@AllThingsOnePlace zendure passport ii pro/3
@@AllThingsOnePlace can you please add minix neo p1 and minix neo p3 to the list.
Great work!
Thanks!
I've had a lot of these things fail on me, but I lucked out with a Baseus 160w which has been used continuously for over a year no problem. I think the idle consumption is due to the display logic (mine doesn't have a display)
I am still using the Anker from this video. I still have the 160W to test at some point.
@@AllThingsOnePlace By the time you get around to testing it they will release a PD 3.1 version and discontinue that mode 😂
@@The_Ballo It’s funny you should mention that because I’m using the new Baseus 140W car charger that’s supposed to be able to output 140W PD 3.1 from the type-C port :)
@@AllThingsOnePlaceHopefully you can add the Ugreen 130W 2C1A, the Baseus 140W and the Anker 52.5W (similar to this Anker on paper but compact) to that comparison.
QC stand for Quick Charge and is a Qualcomm standard that only works with their phones, so it's not an older standard, but rather a proprietary standard.
Yeah, I say older for QC2 or 3 on USB A ports. The newer QC 5 is interchangeable with USB PD 3.0.
@@AllThingsOnePlace fair enough, I must've missed that part. Interesting tests though, much needed and not something I've seen anyone else do. Maybe not specifically this test, but all of the other ones you've done.
@@LGNilssonThis is a first video of a different device type so the rough edges are certainly not smoothed out. Have to start somewhere and can't always make the same content. What do you think about a video comparing the various USB charging protocols? There are a lot of them, I am sure I won't get them all.
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh, don't get me wrong, wasn't complaining about the video, it was just a less interesting video compared to some of your others. That could be interesting, especially with some of the crazy ones coming out of china these days with 150W+ chargers. There are way too many proprietary standards coming out, but it seems like most things have a minimum compatibility with USB Type-C PD charging now, which is a plus, compared to how it was just a couple of years ago.
@Emmanuel GoldsteinOf course there are different versions of QC, USB A ports use QC 2 or 3. These are the most common way to get more power out of a USB A port. USB C with PD is compatible with QC5, so essentially, these are the same thing. A USB C port likely won't give you QC 2 or 3 modes though. That whole thing is still a bit of a mess. Obviously, preferences and requirements are so vast it is difficult to figure it out. I basically like having one good 5V charger, then I go for things with PD which is what my devices all use. I don't have any QC devices but everyone has different needs.
Why do all car adapters have exactly 2 ports on them?
I have no idea! I have one with three ports though.
Great job
Thanks!
That efficiency formula is backwards.
Yep. Good find!
Too bad you didn't test these in an actual 12v socket. The heat build up is very quick and will likely shut down thr higher power outputs like the Baseus after only 10-15min. Please test this! Ive also wondered if the 12v socket is just a bad inefficient connrctor, since it just touches that pin. It's not like a snug connector with lots if surface area.
I did test in a 12V socket. One rated for 10 amps. I usually find it is the plug end that is bad. I melted a plug in the socket used in this video. Also, if the socket gets corroded at all then all bets are off. Being in a car environment it is not unrealistic. There are also really cheap sockets... that wouldn't be fair to test in. Could be a separate video showing that a lot of these plugs and sockets are awful.
@@AllThingsOnePlace yea that would be a great video! Any thoughts on why the tips are melting? Could it be that the push-touch contact is barely enough to make a good connection? Or that the current (depending on the tip) has to pass through a thin spring? You could test that too by checking the temperatures of the tip with it soldered vs pushed into the socket.
@@hornz5 Julian Ilett did a video on this a couple years ago th-cam.com/video/NNF-0G7C0hg/w-d-xo.html I think it could be interesting to check out more though.
Hello, I am a manufacturer of car chargers. Can I contact you?
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I wonder if the Anker engineer who built this struggled with whether or not to not support 12V 🤣🤣
Maybe make it support the direct electric car battery voltage? 400V DC? Nothing can go wrong, right?
@@AllThingsOnePlace it's called lightning port!
Man!! You didnt mention the top safe and reliable and recomended efficent one? What is the point to show all the things here????????
This was a first attempt at this. Mostly presenting the data. They are all not terrible (except the ones with the higher idle power consumption).