The Most Important Purchase In Miniature Painting
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0:00 Intro
1:58 Multijoint Desk Lamps + Lohas LED 30w Bulbs
6:30 OttLite Entice LED Desk Lamp
9:53 NeatFi Elite HD XL Task Lamp
11:47 Reliable UberLight Flex 4200TL
14:03 RedGrass Games R9 Task Lamp
17:49 Final Recommendation
19:45 Outtro and Outtakes - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
![What You REALLY Need to Know about LIGHT for Miniature Painting - [Kelvin, CRI & Lumen explained]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8YYleA4G3Hs/mqdefault.jpg)
Hey Ninjon, Thank your for the opportunity.We are thrilled to be featured in your video comparison 🤩
Such honesty. Thank you.
hey Ninjon, i went to my hobby store since im just getting into pro acryl, and discovered you have a paint set. i bought yours and that other guy Vince’s sets and i gotta say…i like em. your flesh tone has been something i have mixed in a bottle i made like 17 years ago and treated like a holy grail of a rare commodity since i forgot the formula to it. thanks for making it for me
He has a video showcasing them, check it out
This is the best lighting video I've ever seen. Talking about the color temp and CRI seriously taught me some things. Thank you!
Great timing. I was looking into new lighting solutions for my hobby area. Thank you for this one!
You can get much higher CRI for not that much money, and the difference between 80 and 95+ can be very noticeable. Definitely worth spending a little extra at an electrical distributor over a big box retailer to get that bonus.
I think having a lot of ambient light is important for mini painting as well. A small bright light source in an otherwise dark room is of limited utility, and low light levels can cause your pupils to dilate such that it's hard to focus (literally) on details or make it feel like the mini is 'blown out'. A desklamp of some sort is obviously a must, but it doesn't need to be the only light source, and brightening up the whole space pays big dividends.
Thanks again Jon, I am in joying your paints. Need more.
man I am all over this subject! I spent all last weekend going to lighting stores talking to people, now I have even more to think about! thank you so much!
I've got the Lightcraft LED lamp that Squidmar recommends. Pretty similar to the Neatfi I guess. I've always been happy with it. And yes, it was one of those things where you try to get by with what you've got until finally shelling out the cash and then wishing you had done ages ago.
I have a nice light, I have no intention of changing that light, I still watched the whole video... Touché sir!
Awesome vid. A good light makes all the difference.
I just grabbed 2 20$ no-name swing arm basic LED lamps, one for each side of the desk, and that combined with the rooms regular ceiling bulb works for me. Not overly bright and doesn't erase all shadows making it unnatural, but bright enough for full coverage where you need it, and wasy to adjust for awkward models/sizes. The LED control panels also allows for different contrast/color/intensity values, so you can quickly cycle though the options to see how it looks in the different conditions.
I recently bought a Neatfi and it has been a game changer. I used a budget version of the otlight lamp as well and it worked great for years, but the Neatfi is awesome! I used it in the middle of a larger table so it would light my space and my buddies space that I was teaching how to paint and it covered both areas with enough light for both of us to paint comfortably. It's totally worth the price you pay for it.
Hi Ninjon, very interesting video. Lighting is always tricky, it not just about the brightness it is also about what works best in your painting area. Just recently I switched to using my old college desk task light that claps on the side of my painting area (yes I bought it back in 1983). I bought a new task that is almost an exact match on my right side. The big change was to switch the bulbs from incandescent to really nice LED bulbs. The original 75 watt bulb still worked but it got really hot. Now I get great light and it is stays cool.
'SURE' I love that this classic by Vinnie V became an inside joke here and on WUP 😀
I got myself a ceiling lamp with app control and converted it to plug socket, so I can control the warmth of the light and the intensity. For really small details a ringlight is my go-to so you can see everything from where you're painting
I have three CFL daylight bulbs dropped down over my painting desk, with two standing lamps with 3-led bulbs meant for garages aimed upwards. It gives me decent light anywhere on the desk with minimal shadows. Going with that setup until I outgrow the desk, then I'll consider alternatives. I've been painting under the same CFLs since I started painting models.
Thank you for this
the best way I've found for my set up (fairly constrained for space despite having two desks) is two amazon clip on desk lights, got them cheap and have a few different temperature options and aren't so bright they hurt your eyes even when painting for 6-7 hours a day
That redgrass light looks very nice, specifically because of the split between. I have a round LED light with a magnifying lens in the middle I've been using for a long time, and I've lost count of the number of times I've clacked my brush-handle against it while trying to get more light on a mini. I really appreciate your reviews, even for "boring" stuff like lights, so thank you!
Haha same. Mine has paint on it b/c of that too. I couldn't see to paint without mine tho!
I use the same thing and omg the rage I feel hitting my brush or getting it caught on the neck
ditto
Don't forget that Ottlite has a LOT of different models too. I have one that is usually used for embroidery, I believe. It is a circular set of LEDs on a neck, pretty bright, daylight equivalent, and it has a magnifier in the middle if I want. It has holes in the base to put things in, like paintbrushes or in-progress models on holders. I have a different Ottlite which is like a fatter one of what you showed. Also used floor lamp Ottlites.
So.... there are also many options on that front. They often have sales on them at Michaels or JoAnn Fabrics.
Thanks for doing this, I've been looking at getting a better light setup. Appreciate the research you've done.
Loved my Ottlite.
I bought an ikea skurup lamp and the dimming + warm->cool LED bulb with the wireless remote thing and it's been great for an incredibly cheap version with relatively nice light optionality
i recovered a Steelcase Dash light, and man i'm happy with it ! it's powerful, easily adjustable, and also dimmable.
I found out that those cost a hefty price, so that was a really good salvaged item !
I used to do some mini painting at work (a comics and games store) and then finished at home, and the difference in light quality available in both places really knackered a couple of my paint jobs! Turns out starting a blend in a cool light environment and finishing it in a warm light environment really screws it up! So I've been big on getting the right light ever since.
I've gone with three lamps all from the DayLightCompany: 1 x Luminos directly overhead and 2 x Lumi positioned each side at 45 degrees. This gives a nice pool of light. Important to factor in the background colour of your desk - white would be a bad choice, but something dark that gives good contrast really helps.
That Redgrass lamp is really interesting.
Thanks!
I got the big arch light from Green Stuff World.... it fits on my table, and covers the entire miniature with bright light. The only issue is it's basically a LED strip inside a plastic arch.... the strip does get fairly warm on the highest intensity and leaning in close you can kinda get a whiff of warm plastic/wiring. Either way it's bright as hell and covers all the angles.
What a coincidence :) I was researching which lights I want to buy to upgrade my setup. And got notification about new video. Thank you for the reviews and sharing your thoughts about each one of them.
dude, such a timely video....was just looking at getting a new top tier lamp....perfect!
I have a nearfi painting lamp. It's huge and spreads the light really well. It's 2200lm of daylight and I love it. Best buy every
Great video Jon, really appreciate the research that went into it
I have a Neatfi too. I think it’s maybe a slightly cheaper one but it’s a phenomenal light, would highly recommend.
Thanks Jon, this has been really enlightening.
that neatfi one is my favorite. i was skeptical with that price tag but when i got it i was in love.
I actually have a good DIY solution. 2 mini screw clamps, a piece of aluminum (think cheap hardware store aluminum) and the appropriate LEDs. Clamp the aluminum to your desk in an arc, and lean it away from you slightly, apply superglue to the LED strip in 1” or 3cm lengths, and stick it to the aluminum, if possible buy LEDs with a plug on the end to avoid any wiring, and boom, arc light
Nice video 👍, I’ve used a neatfi for a while. I feel that the brighter it is, the cooler the light is. For that reason I find the second brightest setting the best compromise for me at least.
I recently bought an Ottlite and it makes a huge difference. Was definitely worth every penny.
Years ago I splurged and bought an Ottlite from the craft store, it is the florescent ring light with a magnifying glass on an articulated arm and honestly it has been so damn useful I would have problems replacing it with anything else.
Redgrass have a task light Kickstarter with twin luminaires that looks fantastic.
I use a ring light on a flexible arm from amazon that clamps on the desk. I would recommend that route too
Yes, I too am a huge fan of the miiinerals!
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Thank you!
Both me and my wife us this light. It’s cheap, it’s got cool/neutral/warm settings as well as selectable brightness. It comes with a sturdy sand and a clamp if you really want it to not move. Also they have different options for a magnifying glass if you want that. It’s been great.
5X Magnifying Glass with Light and Stand, KIRKAS
The best light setup for painting whether it is hobby or just art in general is a 3 light setup. One from each side and one above or on top of your mini in case of model painting. I use two lights right now and it does make a difference.
I have super strong roof lights and a Elgatoo camera mount which can take any lamp. I also use it for a projector for classic painting on canvas
Lovin the Cones shirt. “It’s about the cones.” Btw If you bought it after LVO, I take full credit for consciously or subconsciously inspiring that purchase. If not, you just have excellent taste.
I tried many lamps and for me Neatfi Ultra 3,500 Lumen was the one I kept. I love this lamp
I recently got a desk lamp similar to the neatfi. It was expensive(for a light), but it's one of the best purchases I've made. I had not realized how much I stressed my eyes before getting it, and not just for painting but also electronics projects and repairs I do. I would have wished to see a magnifying lamp in the comparisons, as that was an option I considered. Still thinking about getting one, as even though I still think I'm not that old, small details in my minis are getting harder to pick out.
I have two LED desk lamps at my painting desk, but one of the most important lights I use is the one integrated into my magnifying lenses. The ability to have light sourced from an area near my eyes helps with removing shadows which may be created by my hands or miniature details. The addition of the light does not significantly impact the weight of the lenses, either.
I position my neatfi right in front of my forehead, aimed at my work. I still have room for a stand-mounted magnifier when I need it. Different set-up, similar usage.
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I like the Big Bulb idea. I have a neatfi for close work but could use something to illuminate my workspace.
Ive been using the Neatfi light for a few years now at home, and it's been great. I think I need to diffuse it a bit because it can be a bit harsh in the evenings and for lengthy paint sessions, especially when the main lighting in the room is weak ass yellow bulbs.
Jon channelling his inner Vince with that “sure” lol
That redgrass lamp looks great, maybe an b-day gift at that price tho.
for me the best tool till now was the little thing i have that shakes the colors before i use them it makes the hobby so much more enjoyable
I have the ikea task light with Kasa smart bulbs, I like the ability to control the color temp and they are on sale regularly.
I use the Neatfi, it’s been fantastic, massive upgrade to what I was using before.
Very informative video and a few things to consider that I hadn't thought of - thank you. a couple of other options I'm also thinking about are a.) a magnifier with backlight around the rim and b.) an adjustable brightness head torch (not the powerful outdoor cycling type, but the 600 lumen or below).
I just wanted to thank you for your great clips, I have painted anything for a while,but due to been diagnosed with a terminal illness. My wife and friends have encouraged me to get back into the hobby, and you have helped me find the passion to restart. So thank you, keep up the great work. And congratulations on the golden deamon
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I use a ring shaped light that was designed for taking shadowless selfies 😂 it has a usb plug and is a dimmable three spectrum LED. It was at Walmart for $30. I used to have a fancy heavy light and one day the bulb burnt out so I used my ring light and realized it’s the best. Never going back. Look into the led ring light for filming or selfie-ing. Cheap and rad and lightweight af.
sounds like a great idea!
I bought a double led architect station light. Cri 85, 2 light strips at 700 lumens a piece. $27 delivered to my house from Amazon. 3 settings, dimmable. It is vastly better than everything but the Redgrass.
I just changed the 5 foot flourecent strip light in the kitchen to an LED cool white strip light and it's crazy bright and really good for painting while also saving me a small fortune on electricity use.
I made a light arch with a strip of aluminum, some quickcrete to made feet/bases for each end and a strip or two of LEDs on the aluminum strip. Works really well. Obviously not portable, but I barely ever paint at home, let alone while traveling/away.
This is literally the fist time I have heard of the CRI (Color rendering Index) Thank you!
I’m looking for a lamp for painting. The redgrass’ one looks awesome👍 Thanks!
I used to get migraines every single time I painted a mini from straining to make sure I wasn't messing with the shadows when I didn't want to, but a year ago I got an Ottlite, and even though it's one of the "cheaper" options here, I can confirm that it's been game changing for both my models and my eyeballs.
Some lights have a flicker, it can cause migraines.
I own the Neatfi aswell. After 15 years of desk lamp light I switched last year. The money is absolutely worth the money. Ninjon is not wrong that this is an overlooked quality of life when it comes to painting minis well :)
This is somthing I did not understand for the longest time. I would paint up a model, be so proud of it. Then get to the game store and pull it out to be embaressed how bad it looked and I had no idea why. Iv found simply having a multi color light works best for me now. Somthing white/blue and somthing more campfire like white/yellow both mixed give a accurate and helpful light source to work from.
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Seriously though, thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos. Very informative.
thanks a lot 🤩
Wow great timing with this video .. I've been saying I need a good light for painting with my ever failing eyes..🤓👍
I've been using the EcoSmart bulbs from home depot. I have a couple of 100w equivalents that work really well. 5000k and 1700 lumen, with a cri of 80. Not as bright as the lohas, but a pack of 4 is less that $20, so well worth the cost.
I use two PHIVE LK-1 Metal Architect Swing Arm LED Desk Lamp, they have variable temp and brightness. They adjust a fair amount and are quite well constructed, $90 a pop but they are great.
Spot on Ninjon.
In the UK the preference for 2700k bulbs has made getting a good high cri daylight bulb for painting quite difficult. I ended up going for a 4000k philips expertcolor gu10 bulb and using it with an adapter to put it in an articulated Ikea lamp. They seem to be a good option at 97CRI and good rendering of reds for about £10 per bulb.
I use this old light on an articulated arm that has this circular light in it and feels bright and accurate to me. it has a magnifier in the middle of it. There isnt even any branding on it to know what it might have been. LOL. I have wanted a bigger light to cover more of my desk but as you know those arent cheap and the one I have works great. So either that or my spray booth which has its own lights (one of those portable master airbrush ones.) are what I use to paint with. I love the look of that redgrass one but man is that expensive.
Couldn't paint without my $36 Brightech magnifying desk lamp. Clamp or stand, flexible neck, 2.25x magnification. Love it.
I have the Neatfi and I really like it a lot. Definitely recommend it. I legitimately believe it helped improve my painting.
I have a spray booth that has built in LED lighting so I tend to just use it as a painting station even when not air brushing. Also, the lighting in the room I paint in has 4 LED ceiling panels that are set to 5500K, so I can paint outside of the booth as well without issue, I just like the boost in brightness the spray booth offers.
honestly a lamp and hobby glasses are the two things that have improved my painting significantly . good paint and brushes help too
Thanks so much for doing this review
Sometimes I really want quick video help on things like this but right off the bat clicking on most "reviews" its just a slide show project with no actual "hands on" footage or explaination
So this is really appreciated thank you
I use optonica bulbs sold for photography purposes. They are pretty cheap and work really well. I use the 1320 lumen versions. They light up my room as if it was daylight XD
I'm really feeling the Red Grass light, I have their wet pallettes and found them to be the best on the market
thank you!! We are glad you like them!
So do they have a special sponge or paper of some kind?
Thanks a lot, I needed more light, paint only at night when I have spare time, and sometimes I feel I'm missing a lot of Light in my painting.
I got a Neatfi Ultra, and while expensive($220), was a game changer for me.
I have to say this is the one hobby tool I have not invested in yet. Im still using the same cheap amazon light I used in college that surprisingly still works haha. It has a full range of light brightness and dimness, and three options of different light colors, natural, white, and your standard yellow. Its basically the bargain version of the Uberlight flex
Dude, I was just showing my wife the Redgrass Kickstarter earlier today. This is perfect timing, thank you!
Now now, a new video from Jon... What better way to finish a harsh week of work ?! Thanks Jon !
I'd like to see a similar comparison of magnifiers, whether integrated into a lamp or separate.
I'm using some magnet mounted work lights from menards along with couple of clip light and it's been ok. I see they have a high out put contractor lamp with a good CR rating. Might take a look at that if I can figure a way to rig it up over my current workspace (small folding table next to my PC desk).
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Great info and presentation! Darryl commentary out take was epic!! I use studio lighting cuz…..I have it! Lol
I have an Asoko USB powered LED lightbar that magnets to little stick on brackets under my computer monitor. I can't find it for sale anymore, but it is a really compact solution for my situation, since I have my monitor on a swingarm clamped to my desk. I doubt it has great CRI, but it works well enough for me for now. However, that Redgrass light may be what I do when I finish getting my dedicated studio together. That looks great.
Bought a Neatfi XL a few weeks ago, and there is nothing that has helped my painting more since I started. Yes, they are expensive, but they truly are "buy once, cry once".
I seriously thought the gap was for that exact reason, getting in close with great light, mini painting, super detailing scale models, so many uses, and if they added a clip-on magnifier then even better
Thanks Ninjon :)
Supercool and very informative video today. I dig it 🙂