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  • @comicpop
    @comicpop  3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    If you want to pick this up, you can! It's in Essential Avengers Volume 9! amzn.to/37HBbmb

    • @andrewfoerster6864
      @andrewfoerster6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      But really, who would want to?

    • @zetamagnus101
      @zetamagnus101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can't believe this was a thing.

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yyyeeeaaahhh, I’m going to skip this one.

    • @imaginerejector1429
      @imaginerejector1429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Essential? Essential to avoid!

    • @alnu8355
      @alnu8355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow...they put it in the "Essential" collection? Really?

  • @ThorneIdentity
    @ThorneIdentity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    tiffany's disgusted outrage is priceless.

  • @capsjukebox
    @capsjukebox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    Tiffany’s constant look of irritated disgust at this story silently says it all for us

    • @ReallyCoolSite
      @ReallyCoolSite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But, technically, that's just her default emoji. It's not limited to this video.

  • @chrisdaily2077
    @chrisdaily2077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Me: Infamous Avengers story? What infamous story?
    Sal: Ms. Marvel is suddenly nine months pregnant …
    Me: Oh no.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Between this the whole Rouge incident, the double deaths of her Mentor/Friend Mar-vell and the Civil war 2 Character Assassination, the poor Woman has been through alot. Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they?

    • @wolvezbane261
      @wolvezbane261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard rumors about this story didn't it was this bad

    • @wolvezbane261
      @wolvezbane261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WannabeWryter was the Rogue thing before or after this?

    • @radicalraddish6292
      @radicalraddish6292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@WannabeWryter she's not alone, Jean Grey, Wanda, psylocke with her whole switching bodies thing, a lot of weird and messed up stuff seems to happen to marvel heroines

    • @williamgazca6641
      @williamgazca6641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was shocked no one on the couch reacted...as soon as I heard Mrs marvel and baby I let out Sal's famous "OHHH NOOOO"

  • @thebeewhobuzzes9467
    @thebeewhobuzzes9467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    At first I was thinking “Why was this story infamous?” Then Sal brought up them getting Ms. Marvel off of the team, and I literally gasped and my eyes widened and I said “Oh no! It’s THAT story!”

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 3 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    *X-Men:* "Don't worry, Carol! _We'll_ treat you right!"
    *literally 5 minutes later, she gets the soul sucked right out of her body*

    • @TheVardon90
      @TheVardon90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      True, but she's at least remembered for something that led to something positive, basically Rogue

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      She did huh that sucks

    • @jinnbs414
      @jinnbs414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I mean, to be fair, she got her soul sucked out first, and then the X-Men helped her get info on who she was.

    • @Ubermensch9240
      @Ubermensch9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TevyaSmolka Literally.

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ubermensch9240 figures

  • @SpiralSine6
    @SpiralSine6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    “The most infamous Avengers story? What could that mea- wait, oh no, oh *no*…”

    • @milosradmilac8911
      @milosradmilac8911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I didn’t know which one this was... then I read your comment and instantly got it 😂

    • @GeminiTasiri
      @GeminiTasiri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I had an eyes-widening "Oh shit" moment the second Sal mentioned that Carol's pregnant in this issue

    • @dekaritheprofessor2631
      @dekaritheprofessor2631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is fantastic comic comment 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Vamroc
      @Vamroc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OH, YEAAAAH HAHAHA

    • @Vamroc
      @Vamroc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milosradmilac8911 Yup, you and Carol both

  • @Sqoobthedude
    @Sqoobthedude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    "So Carol danvers is pregnant-"
    Oh no
    its THAT story Anything but that story.

    • @AnarchicArachnid
      @AnarchicArachnid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you thought it was the hank story?

    • @morlath4767
      @morlath4767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AnarchicArachnid I wasn't entirely sure which story it was going to be and didn't Google before Sal started talking. The moment he said she was pregnant I cringed. The only way to describe this story is Dumpster fire.

  • @Nadodan
    @Nadodan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Tiff looks so damned uncomfortable when they get to the backstory of how Marcus get's into Carol in the first place. And I completely get it, because how she looks is exactly how I'm feeling throughout Sal explaining it.
    Damn this book is a clusterfuck

  • @ToonGal12
    @ToonGal12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Gotta' love how we're in the middle of Carol giving birth to a mysterious alien baby story, and the thing that bothers Ethan the most is the inaccurate looking dinosaurs.

  • @radicalraddish6292
    @radicalraddish6292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Joining the club of people who audibly reacted to seeing what story was getting covered. Strap in everyone, were going there.

  • @masterzero7146
    @masterzero7146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Ah yes, the one storyline Carol Danvers is known for aside from getting absorbed by Rogue and murdering Iron Man

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      and marvel keeps trying to give her epic moments that everyone hates a few months ago she was able to ignore a penance stare "because people always want to make me feel bad for existing"

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      So Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they? I feel bad for her.

    • @crimsonking440
      @crimsonking440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@donb7519
      "No, carol, people are trying to make you feel bad because you're a bad person"
      Marvel is so desperate to make her into the coolest character ever, without any of the genuine effort or likeable qualities that made their other characters cool in the first place.

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@crimsonking440 marvel writers also love to shove blatant lecturing "unsolicited opinions on israel" then there was aarons with jane thor and aarons with jen and gwenpool strikes back

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CrisisComics well no cause bruce isnt a sociopath who doesnt feel remorse marvel just forgot thats how it works

  • @AlriikRidesAgain
    @AlriikRidesAgain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    The greatest super villain in Carol Danvers life is a dude codenamed Marcus.

    • @AnarchicArachnid
      @AnarchicArachnid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      who also is her biological son....

    • @ShawnWeeded510
      @ShawnWeeded510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@AnarchicArachnid and her baby daddy

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      🎶Who impregnated Ms. Marvel
      It’s been Marcus all along🎶

    • @Ubermensch9240
      @Ubermensch9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then it was Brian.

    • @grimandbilly005
      @grimandbilly005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he's tied with her fashion designer

  • @jonathanshaw9704
    @jonathanshaw9704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    0:55- it’s Earth-2 Sal, he survived Crisis and he is here on Earth-Prime.

    • @SpiralSine6
      @SpiralSine6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      All those Halloween specials and Crisis episodes finally broke time, we have an All New All Different cast. They’re just the same characters you always knew but with a fresh coat of paint.

  • @bgood8299
    @bgood8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I bought this issue when it came out in 1980. I was expecting an incredible villain, an epic battle, maybe an incredible revelation about the Avengers. I got a third of that. It turns out the revelation was that the Avengers are jerks and crappy teammates. Actually, I still have that issue, I read it and put it in a box where it has sat forgotten for decades until now.

    • @tjjordan4207
      @tjjordan4207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One that was better burned or thrown away.

  • @Volvagia1927
    @Volvagia1927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    7:02: To bring up Lewis' joke? "I don't want, anybody else. When I think about you, I touch my network port-oooh."

  • @TheGreatDevlin
    @TheGreatDevlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    7:35 Sal's discrimination against robots continues... This is the dark side of ComicPOP.

  • @Ninjamaster227-
    @Ninjamaster227- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I love how you put so much emphasis on Carol constantly saying this was weird. When I first read this comic, I was too distracted, by everyone in the avengers acting so drastically out of character. For god sakes Hank Pym and Hank Mccoy are scientists, and Donald Blake is a skilled doctor. Why are they giving Carol pats on the back and supporting this? They should be questioning EVERYTHING?

  • @vaggelisbaousis1756
    @vaggelisbaousis1756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Poor Ethan. He does not know what he signed up for.

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      19:50 He's already had enough

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Poor Captain Marvel, Marvel's never known what to do with her it seems.

    • @NihilisticBallman
      @NihilisticBallman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Poor everyone involved.

  • @mattixender3016
    @mattixender3016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    47:13 “Oh so he like used the Roofie-9000 on her,” may be the funniest and most fucked thing Tiffany’s ever said

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      tiffany yes but there's been some pretty bad stuff said on back issues

    • @ridge825
      @ridge825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dank Tiffany

  • @liamgibbons5266
    @liamgibbons5266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    i love how this story is so dense and fucked up that a one issue comic can be a whole hour long back issues

  • @grkpektis
    @grkpektis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    We did it guys. we found a love story that is legitimately worse than 50 shades of grey

  • @priceyyeti4058
    @priceyyeti4058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I saw the title and immediately knew what this was. Oh dear God.

    • @doge_testies4070
      @doge_testies4070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It took me till he said Carol suddenly got pregnant to realize which story this was.

  • @allstar7610
    @allstar7610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Sal: The story started with Ms. Marvel pregnant
    Me with some comic book knowledge: Oh God, oh God the R word story

  • @princeparker8797
    @princeparker8797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    31:34 "I would love to explain this... But.. theres a dinosaur and aliens attacking the city particularly this mansion"
    Fam I'm dying 😂😂😂😂

  • @noahku1314
    @noahku1314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Petition for every back issues to end with the crew simultaneously cackling as they descend into madness

  • @TheSpiderworks
    @TheSpiderworks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Beast Saying the Pocahontas line. Would be funny if everybody would stop fighting even the dinosaur. All turn towards him and just say "WoW!!!"

    • @jacobp7037
      @jacobp7037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Really Beast? *YOU* said that shit

    • @amusingmoose9924
      @amusingmoose9924 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a SolidJJ skit, right there.

  • @Sun_worshipping
    @Sun_worshipping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love that you don’t even need to read the title you simply look at the pic and your just like: “Yep it’s going to be a good one.”

  • @TheColSamson
    @TheColSamson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The mixture of Sal's Batman voice and the zooming in on a picture of Batman at 20:15 just draws a chuckle from me everytime. I don't know why, but it does

  • @infiniteenigma1
    @infiniteenigma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I love reading the comments and seeing multiple people have just collectively repressed this nightmare story from their memory

  • @HollowGolem
    @HollowGolem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    2:55 _Omaha the Cat Dancer_ was a comic by this point. Furries _definitely_ existed.
    29:52 is this ComicPop's first ever split screen?

    • @vidalruiziii1245
      @vidalruiziii1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's been a few the other most recent was in episode before this the Batman prodigal

  • @JasonEvans-j4c
    @JasonEvans-j4c ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This comic doesn't have creators, it has co-conspirators.

  • @camerondodge2070
    @camerondodge2070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    2:53 Tiffany's right on the money here. There weren't full furry conventions, but certainly gatherings at comic book conventions. So Beast being invited to an underground gathering at a con would've fit perfectly.

  • @ATroknya
    @ATroknya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    So.... I know what Captain Marvel 2 *ISNT* going to be.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Between this the whole Rouge incident, the double deaths of her Mentor/Friend Mar-vell and the Civil war 2 Character Assassination, the poor Woman has been through alot. Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they?

    • @bobbysworld281995
      @bobbysworld281995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Korvac may be there, so that's nice.

  • @barraki6706
    @barraki6706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    And people think what Marvel's doing with Carol *today* is a poor treatment of her character.

    • @ShawnWeeded510
      @ShawnWeeded510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And they'd probably still argue for this crappy era of Carols History.

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SteelSpurs
      Carols don't need to be likable to be compelling.

    • @meyes5671
      @meyes5671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SteelSpurs
      Says who? And at the moment, Scarlet Witch is their most popular female hero.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Between this the whole Rouge incident, the double deaths of her Mentor/Friend Mar-vell and the Civil war 2 Character Assassination, the poor Woman has been through alot. Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they?

    • @crimsonking440
      @crimsonking440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jack91790
      Lol someone's mad their favorite character sucks.

  • @Cartoonguy133
    @Cartoonguy133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I believe Carol left the X-Men because they let Rogue join the team. She still held a grudge against Rogue for stealing her powers. I think Carol held that grudge even after getting her powers back.

    • @vemoniscool
      @vemoniscool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean for good reason too, rogue not only took her powers she also left her in a coma and when she woke up she finds out she lost all her memories as well. I mean she gets better but I would definitely feel a bit resentful to her too

  • @pinche.dieguito
    @pinche.dieguito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ethan: Is the story infamous?
    Me: *looks at poor Carol in the background* Ohhhh loooooooord

  • @psuley1977
    @psuley1977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That zoom when Sal slides into the Twin Peaks laugh is everything.

  • @barrybusan1294
    @barrybusan1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Oh god i saw 'Avengers' and the 200 in the thumbnail. I knew...

  • @richardedgell
    @richardedgell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "I mean said he wanted a laser, we got lasers all over the place" made me spit out my coffee. Good one

  • @8mad
    @8mad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I liked Carol with the X-Men honestly, but yeah she ended up leaving after the Brood Saga where she became Binary and decided to be a space hero. Also, if I am not mistaken the reason Carol was saved by Spider-Woman was because Rogue had JUST absorbed her powers so she can go save the Brotherhood.

  • @prindy1429
    @prindy1429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Remember cocaine is a hell of drug kids , only way i can explain how this got written

    • @rdp16rulez
      @rdp16rulez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That explains wacky joking all the time Beast as well.

  • @N94able
    @N94able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I saw the 200 and genuinely went "......I KNOW THIS STORY!!!!"
    What fucking disgrace it is.

  • @cklambo
    @cklambo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Carol's baby is growing at a incredible rate
    Hawkeye: That was all I needed, when he started acting strange it became personal with me

  • @WhiteRaven696
    @WhiteRaven696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Dear God. Not “The Rape of Ms. Marvel”. Anything but THAT story.

  • @jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author
    @jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    George Perez: “this drawing needs more characters in it.”

  • @ninja1man4u
    @ninja1man4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This story is what was in the ark of the covenant at the end of Indiana Jones . It's that bad

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have to be Sins Past or Marville to be a Marvel comic that could even be _considered_ worse. It's THAT. *BAD.*

    • @ninja1man4u
      @ninja1man4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christopherb501 Marville is probably the worst comic ever printed

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
    @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Future Sal almost got caught.
    Tiff: We didn’t do that yet?
    Future Sal: Hamana hamana of course I know that. I’m clearly from the present timeline. I mean THIS timeline.

  • @MtnRangeLivingRoom
    @MtnRangeLivingRoom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Every episode, “heywelcometobackissuesimsal”

  • @blackphoenix77
    @blackphoenix77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The moral of this story: don't do stories where women magically become pregnant because it never works out well. NEVER.

    • @ksolesky2
      @ksolesky2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except the Bible

  • @chichivandoll
    @chichivandoll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    “So Carol Danvers is pregnant-“
    Me: *Scared glitter noises*

  • @cincymutt
    @cincymutt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The Toys"R"Us ad also somewhat ruined one of my favorite covers from the time with Uncanny X-Men #138. All I can say is I must imagine/hope they got paid an obscene amount for that ad placement.

    • @JH-dm1vt
      @JH-dm1vt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The stupid ad’s even on the copy of 138 that’s in the trade for Days of Future Past.

  • @SamSphinx
    @SamSphinx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The most subtle prequel reference i've seen on thsi show: A time LORD?
    (A sith LORD?!)

  • @Grievousish
    @Grievousish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Poor Carol just can't catch a break can she?

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Between this the whole Rouge incident, the double deaths of her Mentor/Friend Mar-vell and the Civil war 2 Character Assassination, the poor Woman has been through alot. Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they?

    • @thekodex1186
      @thekodex1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WannabeWryter She's a bit of a Tim Drake

  • @Akari-br7ci
    @Akari-br7ci ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Avengers 200? Isn't that the issue where Wasp gets her new costume?

  • @Shaff2323
    @Shaff2323 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yes. I’ve waited so long for this story to be talked about.

  • @threex0xthree
    @threex0xthree 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm not even a Marvel reader tho, but I remember watching the Linkara video based on this book. Man, did he hate the crap out of this book🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂.

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    An old friend from school told me this comic was right up my alley.
    I avoided talking to him for a week.

  • @NyJoanzy
    @NyJoanzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Carol Danvers, Marvel's most character assassinated person.

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Marvel's never known what to do with poor Carol Danvers have they? Between this Rouge and Civil War 2, goodness.

    • @NyJoanzy
      @NyJoanzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WannabeWryter That seems accurate.
      The run where she was in charge of S.W.O.R.D. with Alpha Flight was pretty good and it was over after only a few arcs. Then they just started doing random shit.

    • @bobbysworld281995
      @bobbysworld281995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's moments like these that make me happy as fuck they didn't force her into an era of the MCU when Whedon and Perlmutter were involved with her canceled debut: AOU.
      It seems the MCU wants to pick up her pieces after Civil War 2 and other terrible moments and do something better (like Iron Man after Civil War, conveniently)

    • @knightofkorbin888
      @knightofkorbin888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hank Pym.

    • @NyJoanzy
      @NyJoanzy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knightofkorbin888 ok. I'm interested.
      What are you referring to?

  • @vidalruiziii1245
    @vidalruiziii1245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As soon as sal said" no its Ms marvel we gotta get rid of ms marvel" i figured out witch story this was gonna be lol he said that and i said a loud "oh no!" 😂😂

  • @alexandrumarin8981
    @alexandrumarin8981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I applaud your courage for tackling this weird ass book. I'd like to point out that Hawkeye was pretty much the only sane Avenger in this story. It's kinda weird if you think about how he acts in this story and how Bendis writes Hawkeye in events, especially if you take into account that his treatment of certain characters is based around stories he read and enjoyed like Doomquest.

  • @Aliaskitfisto
    @Aliaskitfisto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "That's really weird."
    Dr. Donald Blake, meta commenting on this issue

  • @jamestargaryen9588
    @jamestargaryen9588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ethan’s “Hey, he said he wanted lasers - we got lasers all over the place!” 🤷‍♂️
    Killed. Me. Dead. 😂

  • @crimsonking440
    @crimsonking440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ah yes, everyone's favorite captain marvel story

  • @larswithghosts
    @larswithghosts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved the episode as always, but my brain is just “wow Tiffany is serving LOOKS™️”

  • @zachflag6506
    @zachflag6506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok so “The baby grew into a toddler before my very eyes and is now trying to talk” could work GREAT for a horror story with better writing. Unfortunately “better writing” is nowhere within light years of this story.

  • @ThatKevinBravo
    @ThatKevinBravo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This story just proves that Janet is a horrible person, first this and then she reminds Wanda about her sons that she lost and starts House of M

    • @kr555wizard
      @kr555wizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It almost makes hank slapping her seem like a justifiable action, like why do the avengers remember him smacking her one time in a moment where he was mentally unstable, but not all the times she caused friction and issues with the other female team members.Some of which leads to massive destructive forces.

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kr555wizard i mean because to society hitting a women isnt forgivable even when in a state of duress the bigger question is why do we remember that one time from the 60s and not peter punching mj in the 90s or reeds emotional abuse

    • @mikhaelgribkov4117
      @mikhaelgribkov4117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kr555wizard I pretty sure Hank in that story pretty much makes a robot to attack Avengers and then be hero of the day, so he's asshole compared to Peter punching MJ in the middle of the fight after some clone says that Peter not the real one. Also, Ultimates solidified this abuse dynamic.

    • @carlgibson285
      @carlgibson285 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@donb7519 you're right, but Hank hitting Jan wasn't from the 60s, it was from the 80s (it happened a year after the comic they're talking about in the video was published, somewhere around Avengers #214).

  • @weathersbythesavagereacts2853
    @weathersbythesavagereacts2853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:20 Dr. Curt Conners has a great line in the ultimate comics where he says when we mess with gods design he messes back

  • @donkyoofficial
    @donkyoofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never heard of this story before, good Lord, what were they thinking?! Thanks for sharing this piece of history, Comic Pop.

  • @nubworthycigars6682
    @nubworthycigars6682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all your content! I appreciate the honest takes on some of these stories. It’s comics, and comics logic is insane. Fun and funny, but entirely insane... reminds me of the days when one could travel to the local comics shop and have ridiculous conversations with random acquaintances.

  • @thelonewolfronstringer6266
    @thelonewolfronstringer6266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was like where's the intro song but I got it at the end thanks guys for another great episode

  • @kevinkruger1686
    @kevinkruger1686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Now that y'all have done this book can y'all please do Justice League of America # 200? It is my favorite one and done book of all time

  • @KazzBiggs
    @KazzBiggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s absolutely insane how many times the Langoliers have been mentioned in Comicpop. Hahaha
    It’s been a while since the last reference, I think.

  • @TheGreatDevlin
    @TheGreatDevlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Getting into comics in 2014, that was the "have the heard" story that threw me for a loop lol.

  • @LogantheSloth
    @LogantheSloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw that 200 in the back and said "OH NO" out loud

  • @adubs3851
    @adubs3851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    31:15 Never knew Danny McBride was in Marvel continuity until I stared at that panel for more than 2 seconds.

  • @patrickmccabe2078
    @patrickmccabe2078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mother got me this for my 12th birthday and a bunch of old at the time comic books for 1995 when I was going through my first big X-men Avengers 90s Marvel collecting phase. I didnt grasp how weird Avengers #200 was for years. Always loved the art though lol

  • @youfirst6611
    @youfirst6611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me: Huh Avengers issue 200. I wonder why Sal said it’s so infamous.
    Reaches the 9:35 mark
    Me: Wait a minute carols... but that could only mean...Oh Shi-

  • @calijuggalo3633
    @calijuggalo3633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That line weigh your pro's and con's. Fuckin great. Sal you should write a parody of this with that kind of dialogue

  • @TommyBaysMusic
    @TommyBaysMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "I wanna see where this goes.... give him the lazer...."
    😅😅

  • @chisasa9509
    @chisasa9509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finding another Story Sal HATES is a story we love to hear him talk about. Lol

  • @flywheelshyster
    @flywheelshyster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rough couple of days. Thanks sal and the gang for doing what you do and bringing joy to us whom really need sone joy sometimes. You guys are rockin' like don dokken !

  • @dww7094
    @dww7094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sal did it, the absolute madman.

  • @GreatGarloo
    @GreatGarloo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @46:59 - Tiff's face. She's so over this s**t. This story is all because Jim Shooter wanted to get rid of Carol Danvers. Yikes!

  • @Comperative-e8b
    @Comperative-e8b 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Carol deserved better.

  • @Sicod79
    @Sicod79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So what your saying is, the MCU might not adapt this story because of "rape" and "rape enabling" by the "Avengers" who "Avenged rape" by buying baby toys and totally siding the with the rapist..

    • @Ubermensch9240
      @Ubermensch9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, this is the only smudge on Caps resume that wasn't Hydra related. Still better than Iron Man, because at least Cap *learned* from this and never did it again.

    • @Junya01
      @Junya01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ubermensch9240 Wait... Tony did this again?

    • @Ubermensch9240
      @Ubermensch9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Junya01 Civil War. Civil War 2. Secret Wars. Really, the guy is incapable of being a hero anymore.

    • @donb7519
      @donb7519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ubermensch9240 tony was right in cw2 carol was being a facist and secret wars was a morality flipped tony cause of axis so yes he was incapable of being a hero

    • @Ubermensch9240
      @Ubermensch9240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donb7519 He also kidnapped a kid because of a theory. Not a fact. A THEORY.

  • @therealmanos
    @therealmanos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh boy...this issue.

  • @maskmaker6374
    @maskmaker6374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a great Gryffindor outfit Tiff

  • @ultimate_lance
    @ultimate_lance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was expecting a hulk baby moment in this back issue

  • @FloorTankMain
    @FloorTankMain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my god I wasn’t sure what this was until Sal said Carol was pregnant and I literally gasped out loud and was like “oh NO”

  • @kangofkek8079
    @kangofkek8079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man, I used to not like Captain Marvel, but now I feel pretty bad for her

    • @WannabeWryter
      @WannabeWryter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Between this the whole Rouge incident, the double deaths of her Mentor/Friend Mar-vell and the Civil war 2 Character Assassination, the poor Woman has been through alot.

  • @kfizzle5086
    @kfizzle5086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the couch banter this episode!

  • @nathanchaffin6380
    @nathanchaffin6380 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a really entertaining episode of back issues. I'm watching for like the 4th time.

  • @shadowanderson2004
    @shadowanderson2004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hawkeye is just like “YOU DON’T EVEN GO HERE”
    It’s my sisters fault that I can make this reference

  • @victor6620
    @victor6620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That ending will haunt my nightmares.

  • @megamaxx786
    @megamaxx786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When everyone is an Avenger, no one is

  • @Vesperitis
    @Vesperitis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Avengers 200?
    In the words of another Internet reviewer who kinda looks like Sal...
    Oh no...
    Oh no no no no no no
    _(evil smile)_ Oh no no no no no no no no no no

  • @bigfest6498
    @bigfest6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When looking at your "ho-hum" faces I thought to myself, "this book gotta suuuuuuck"...but then the thought of hearing Sal trash it made me wanna click even faster than before ⚡🤣

  • @whatisthis771
    @whatisthis771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    39:19 Tiffany’s facial expression is priceless

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tiffany's reaction is the same as mine when I read this thing.