RESTORING THE SOUTH BEND SHAPER painting Tips
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- This video is part 5 of a 10 part video series on restoring the SB shaper.
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Nice job for an old man. You are only as old as you feel. This is coming along great. You had the correct shirt on for this project.
I wore it especially for you Randy
@@mrpete222 Thanks Lyle, Are you watching some of the live feed of the Summer Bash.?
I will right now
I look forward to watching Mr. Pete on Saturday mornings now that I’m in my 60’s,...
The same way I used to look forward to Saturday morning cartoons back in the 60’s.
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You are such a pleasant man Mr. Pete. You're like the Bob Ross of machinery. The shaper is really shaping up to be a great looking machine! Excellent work. :)
@mannys9230, lol, happy little shaper!! 😁
I can't believe so many people give you a hard time. Some people just can't be happy unless they're stealing someone's sunlight.
Sir, I enjoy your videos and I appreciate the time it takes you to do this and the wealth of knowledge you're sharing. Thank you Mr Pete
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While watching these videos, I have two people commenting on them. Mr Pete and my wife. As soon as the video comes on and she hears Mr. Pete, she says oh it's Mr. Pete and she laughs at his comments and always has a rebuttal to what he says. She especially likes it when he comments about off topic things... I think the whole world loves Mr. Pete!!!!!
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I very much enjoy your videos, and occasional rants. It could be that I am 71 and also remember when the world was more civilized.
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" It just can't be easy "
No truer words spoken.
Have a Jesus filled day
Greg in Michigan
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Howdy Greg.
Ted
From Grand Rapids, MI
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Hello Ted
I'm near Kalamazoo
I'm really enjoy watching this series. Nice to see the quality of American workmanship and how you care enough to properly restore and keep them going. Thank you for showing us the world of machinery!
Another great video, Mr Pete. Those craftsmen in the casting departments back in the day were real artists. You really have to respect that level of work. That's where the accuracy of these machines comes from. Starts with the foundation! I like your comment about "some electrician". You're already improving the machine by adding a ground. Git a rope! Nice job! I also like "it's good enough for me." My dad always said "if it looks too good someone will steal it!" Lol. Thanks for the great videos!
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I very much enjoyed the video Lyle.
That little shaper is worth all the work IMO. Nice piece of history we will never see produced again.
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Been so humid lately hard to keep the rust Stained fingerprints from showing up on everything here. You did good not staining yours!
97 degrees at my house today Mr. Pete.......which is exactly why am inside in the air conditioning watching YOU at 4:00 in the afternoon. Stay hydrated!
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Hi Mr. Pete. I am a machinist in Brazil and love your videos. What an excellent teacher you are!
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“Do you hear my knees?” 😂
Thank you Mr Pete. That machine has never seen so much love. I'm really enjoying this series.
Mr Pete so refreshing to watch ur videos and take my mind off this crazy world we live in now I can’t tell if the news is showing Baghdad or American city anymore I hope some day it will get better
I’ve never seen anything like it
mrpete222 just to show u google is racist to trump just type these names in all lower case Bernie Hillary Biden and it automatically capitalize their names then type trump lower case it still stayed lower case they hate this man
Mr pete you're the only person in school I actually learned something from
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Love these videos, Mr pete! I feel as though we are old friends, even though I haven't met you in person. Thank you for all your effort to produce these videos!
Ditto!!!
This is going to be a great looking machine when you get it done. I am enjoying watching you work on it.
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Very nice job tubalcain! I wanted to thank you, particularly for the videos on gear cutting and indexing. My Logan shaper had worn out it’s gear for the ratcheting mechanism, and I used your older video to assist in determining settings on my dividing head. Took most of day on lathe and mill, but the finished product worked out very well. Thanks for the videos, they have helped a lot.
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haters gonna hate. ignore them. keep up the good work Mr. Pete.
And all is getting pretty good looking.
Great series Mr. Pete, enjoyed part 5.
Excellent tip to use a Dremel to score your registration marks (instead of a marker). Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the hardest to see.
Yes! Just don't do it on flat springs or things that are flexion or torque tension because a score mark creates a stress point and can cause the part to break at that spot.
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos, its always interesting to see how machines are built, especially the old ones. Your comments about the pattern makers were interesting. Its easy to forget that someone had to make that in the first place. Best wishes!
going to be mighty fine when finished, looking forward to `first chips` ( of its 2nd life).
Another job well done, well it’s done.
Nice job. Always nice to hear from you .
Really enjoying this series. I, too, like to put a short cord on the motors. I have started using the old computer or monitor cords that we all have a box full. They have nice molded plugs and are usually 18 ga which will handle 10 amps, more than enough for a fractional HP motor. Since they are only a foot or so long, voltage drop is not an issue since you will plug into a much heavier cord. (I think I can hear hearts stopping at this suggestion.)
Thank You Mr.Pete!
Keep them coming and well done.
You’re “hopping around” is what provides us with the real “how to” do these projects. I know you spend a lot of time preparing your presentations - just view some other channels. Thank you Mr Pete
Thank you very much
Another great edutainment video. That is a lot of pieces and I would not remember where it all went either.
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Reminds me of watching you build that vertical steam engine many years ago. Thanks for the video Mr Pete.
Mr Pete this is definitely one i will be waiting on next Saturday. I find myself dropping more things and having to get on my hands and knees to pick them up. The older i get the higher my frustration level climbs and I use the phrase "Everything just has to be hard" I envy the simple things like being able to just turn around in a circle and look behind me. I have several aids like magnets and mechanical things to pick us things with but sometimes they will not get the job done. Well enuff of my whining there a lot of men who wish they could still get out in the shop and work on their hobbies. Looking forward to seeing you clean out the lube tubes for the ways.
I worked as a pattern maker for a few years. We used a putty, rather like glazing putty to do the radius fillets. There are tools for the job that have a polished steel ball on a handle to run around and press in the putty and form it. They came in different sizes of course.
Thank you. Yes I have some of those radius tools
Great video, thanks Lyle
Thanks for another visit to your shop MrPete
I am really into shapers and I know I can never purchase one . I have considered building one but can't really justify why because I have a milling machine. Just wanted you to know others are as excited as you about them . Thanks again! I build my toys from scrap metal that can aquire.
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THANK YOU...for sharing. Painted parts look great. Very much enjoyed.
Mr. Pete,
You said, "It just can't be easy can it?" Keep in mind if it was easy anyone could do it.
Love your video's.
Gary 77-Year-Old Home-Shop-Machinist in the Beautiful-Mountains of North West Arkansas
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Cinnamon rolls, pepsi and Mr Pete, the breakfast of champions..lol.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great installment of the restoration. Really enjoying this series. Keep safe and keep up the good work.
Great job thanks for sharing looking forward to seeing the completion!
It's looking wonderful..and I'm liking that HF cart..I might have to pick one up myself. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
I have the same chintzy cart that I bought used. My back loves it. I currently have a 1-1/2 horse Hercules hit & miss engine sitting on it.
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Being the same age, I can certainly sympathize with you on the dropping of small pieces! I resorted to using a magnetic nut driver set and screwdrivers for those tiny nuts and screws. Not much help on the brass ones though. I have one of those screwdrivers from long ago that we used on ignition points that had the twist lock. Sure come in handy with these old arthritic hands!
It's never easy. Murphy's law.
I always thought it would be useful to install zerk fittings in my knees! 😜
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Yes. And re: dropping nuts or other small parts into inconvenient spaces... I want electromagnets installed in my fingertips.
I'm doing the same thing with an old Jones and Shipman surface grinder. Its a bit daunting having a complete old machine and then having it in pieces, seemingly everywhere. I try to get the main body or casting painted and done and start getting a few pieces bolted back on, it heartens you to continue.
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17:50 as AvE says, "It just never ends" - A great series. I love Shapers. Hopefully I will have one someday....before I shuffle off this mortal coil. LOL
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Nice job your doing the shaper is starting to look like new. Hope your having a good weekend
Nice to see this Thank you.
Nice video mr pete ...the shaper does have a place in the shop that’s for sure...but I still enjoy the Bridgeport and a 3” carbide tool for taking off stock ( and all those chips flying around)...BUT still I would love to have that shaper all painted up and ready to go ...
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I hate setscrews on a round shaft without flats. It's cheap to make, but it mangles the shaft and they often come loose. You never see that on a Kraut machine. Keep up the great work. I have back problems so I love your horror fraraught cart, even the hideous pumpkin color. Your spine loves it too. I'm sure people are just ribbing u in fun.
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Hi Mr Peterson,
I am pleased you got to get the base off... It will be nice to know you've check out all parts of the shaper. Keep up the good work.
Take care
Paul,,
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A small piece of electrical tape balled up sticky side out pushed into socket or nut driver helps prevents dropping nuts into things.
Very interesting.Thank you.
Lots of good LOL's in this one; knees (yes-I know that one, WD40-humm¿), Can't be easy!, plastic chords, etc. ;-D Did the same thing at the Hardware & big box recently...no SJO chord - what the...glad you found a rubber ext, but I dislike molded plugs they always bugger up. Great episode Mr. Pete, Thanks for all you bring to the community!!
Great video, keep them coming.
I use garbage disposal whips for stuff like that. They are available in 3' or 6' long. They have a molded plug and are ready to go really inexpensive.
Where do you get those?
I have an old circular saw I put about 10 feet of drop cord on to replace the cord ..Just plug it into the wall and enough cord to use the saw outside And it is 3 wired grounded when I am standing on wet ground
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Your comment about dropping the nuts down inside the motor had me chuckling as I am presently reconditioning an old out board and I don't know how many times I've dropped nuts down inside the housing. Some are ferrous metal so I can use my extendible magnet to recover them but many of them have been brass ...I had to buy some replacement!
Mark Shymanski Lol
Thanks for your good work. Just as good as any standard maintenance crew would do on production machines when we actually had production machines (obviously banks of CNC machining centers and transfer lines do what work is done today, but when the servo motors wear and the electronics smoke it's off to salvage or scrap). I try not to make many comments because most people see the same things I do and comment appropriately.
I just thought it a bit unusual that South Bend would use a cradle mounted electric motor on a machine like this. Usually that style motor is specified for squirrel cage blowers and harmonic sensitive driven components. Most all motors on machine tools of that era were rigid base mounted. I recall that Walker-Turner machines were fitted with a lot of custom bases motors that today require making an adapter plate, etc. Guess NEMA standards were not wide spread in the late 1940's and 1950's as today. Cheers!
Actually the motor was an option and the customer was free to provide their own. In the 1956 South Bend catalog the shaper was $573 (either standard or metric) and there were 26 optional motors available, 1, 2 or 3 phase, 50 or 60 cycles, 1/2 or 1/3 H.P. and various voltages. Motor prices ranged from $41 to $102. Another available option for the 2 and 3 phase motors was a low voltage control unit which would limit the voltage at the switch to 110.
Rick
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The oven cleaner from the dollar store makes an excellent degreaser for machinery.
It just can't be easy can it? If it was easy, everyone would do it, heh
Thanks for another video =)
Looks good.
Morning Lyle.
Yes, Lyle, if I may piggy back a bit on the comment about the darkening of videos in some circumstances. When there is a bright area cameras will try to expose the shot for it automatically. It does this by darkening the entire shot to show detail in the bright areas. That makes whatever is dark even darker and impossible for us to see what’s going on. A classic thing is when someone is working in a garage and aiming the camera outside. You always want the brightest lights behind you. Hope I’m not confusing an old man :)
Thank you yes I understand that. I always called it back lighting. Almost nobody Compensates for that
Tubelacan ,! I’m back. ,! What I missed teacher oh a sharpener I’ll back track and check it out , their trying too keep me calm and subdued, my blood pressure shots off like scales ⚖️ thank you for staying around
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I had the same problem with the cross slide on my Lewis Shaper. Luckily I have a chain hoist with which to lift the column and split the castings.
Looking good!
very good video..thanks
Lyle, if you contact an electrical supply house, like your electrician friends use, tell them your predicament. They will be more than happy to help. Especially after they figure out how many TH-cam subscribers you have.👍
Best wishes
I abhor thermoplastic jackets on power cords, so I go to a electric contractors' supply (Park Street for you) to get the good SOOW stuff by the foot.
All the best,
-- Joe
I know that he sold it by the foot. I was in there about two months ago
same thing with those stiff kinky air lines. rubber all the way.
Was that a two or three star worm? Great series sir. Thank you for sharing.
Joe
Well done from our" Mr Pete. NONE lack 'eem. What's not tah luv about this kind man? Huh?
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Regarding dark shots in your video. I think the camera is averaging the light in the whole field of view. So if there are large bright areas, the camera will reduce the total light, and the dark spots get too dark to see. You might just take a dark towel (from your wife's linen closet, of course) and cover up the bright area in the shot. Then the camera will let in more light. Or just add a spot light as you did to the dark area. ... great video as always!! Loved the squeaky knees comment. Mine too. :-)
It's all about that bass.
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Hi Lyle,
It's amazing the difference a coat of paint makes, and it's so much easier to clean and paint in pieces.
Have you fixed the connection to the bull gear yet?
Regards Dennis.
at 77 you could still run for president.
I'm in the process of rebuilding my 4th Atlas lathe. I took the reversible motor, (original Atlas) apart years ago to clean and paint, then decided to use a new motor.
Now I've decided to use the original and will have to take it to an armature shop to get it wired back up. There's 6 wires coming out of it. What was I thinking.😵
Thanks my Friend
I had some experience with the WD40 and knee problems. I sold a customer 1 gallon can of WD40 and he said it was for his knees. I joked with him and said that "everyone says that WD40 will cure everything". He then told me that he had 2 artificial legs, and they would squeak if not oiled each morning. I felt as small as an ant after that. Great video.
Ken Reed Lol
Looking good Sir!
I use Acetone on a rag when cleaning up old machinery. Cleans up the paint real easy.....IMHO
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Yes, I take videos when I do something so I can look at it when I have a problem. I think a lot of people do that, but want mention it.
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Remember the movie Spaceballs, when they had the instant cassetes with the movie already made while it was still on the making?
When does this happen in the movie? What the heck am I looking at. We're looking at now now. Go back to then. I can't. Why? We missed it. When? Just now... When will then be now? Soon. How soon?
@@timeflysintheshop Exactly
I buy good used cords, plugs and the like at a local scrap yard for very reasonable prices.
I use olive oil on my knees. Not as bad on the skin as WD40 ;)
Oh yes, can't ever be easy! My saying is " the hard way is the easy way". That's how it always ends up!
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Lay on your back hold the motor over your head unscrew the terminal nuts and when they fall out you will be able to find them because they will drop into your eyes and not into the motor ☺️
S Zsenyuk yes
I viewed the Rhodes shaper video. I don't understand how it is speeding up the back stroke. Is it the placement of the lower pin on the slotted bar? Thanks.
One problem with these franchises being out of goods is that the store itself sometimes doesn't get to choose what they're selling. The franchise holder supplies the merchandise, so you've sold out of diapers and they sell well but the franchise holder decides you needed 5 pallets of potting soil and no diapers and that's what you get.
Hiya Mr Pete
It looks like to me that even if you wanted to, there is no way to lubricate the worm gear and screw. Would it be worth while to engineer a way to lubricate the gear and screw? You look to be in pretty good shape for an "Old Man". May you enjoy many more years of good health.
They really made those old motors to last
Might I suggest drilling and tapping a hole in your kneecap and installing a grease zerk. Much better than WD40. Then don't use the cheap grease. Get a good moly blend.
I thought you were a dentist, what do you know about knees?
Pace yourself Pete
When you decide to sell one of the shapers, CALL ME!!
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So are you going to broach a key way in the old pulley? Why do you think your to old, I am 82 and in the middle of a complete rebuild of a South Bend 14.5 lathe so your never to old, well I have to get out in the shop and sand blast the chip pan for the lathe, and start assembly!
I hope I can still do that when I’m 82. In fact I will do that when I am 82. Thank you for the encouragement
Was that thing supposed to spark when you plug it in and turn it on for the first time with the new power cord ?
Yes. That was the contacts of the centrifugal switch opening as it came up to speed and cut out the start windings.
dan cobar ok ok cool still very new to all this so wasn’t sure thanks for the clarification
All the Sparks footage is on the cutting room floor