tubalcain BUYS ANOTHER SOUTH BEND SHAPER Tips
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I did another crazy thing. I purchased my second SOUTH BEND SHAPER. This time from a school district. Watch for more videos of this machine.
Thanks to my friend Craig of Bushnell for the tip. I owe him a finders fee.
Watch this video of me bring home my other SB shaper.
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Never underestimate us scrawny old guys. I recently acquired a 60 year old Craftsman jointer. Weighs about 250 pounds, solid cast iron. Loaded and unloaded it myself. Not bad for almost 70.
We’re still pretty wiry
you gotta love hearing the excitement in his voice talking about reviving that shaper, god bless you Mr Pete
Thanks
I love your videos, my dad has a massive heart attack yesterday and the only thing I wanted to do was watch your videos, your videos are so interesting and relaxing to watch that it really calmed me down. My dad is doing well by the way. Thank you so much for helping me take my mind off things. Thanks again.
Here’s hoping and praying that your father has a complete recovery. Always a stressful time for the family
mrpete222 thank you sir. He is speaking and I think he’ll make a full recovery if everything goes well. God bless you.
Can't wait until "OUR" Mr Pete brings this machine into yet another vintage machine alive. Oh yeah!
Thanks Lyle.
My state has a law where if a new school is built all the furnishings needed to run the building must be disposed of auctioned or traded and replaced with new. Our shops, wood and metal had top notch equipment, traded in for nothing on the dollar and replaced with Craftsman and chinesinum tools. What a shame. I seen many good pieces of equipment that found new homes in the dumpster.
Wow, that’s almost hard to believe
Love those little south bend shapers. I'll never forget your comment, " You can make anything on a shaper besides money!" I mentioned before the shaper was the first machine I ever used. There's just something about the action and the sound it brings back great memories. Always a pleasure to see you restoring old machinery, cleaning off the swarf and corruption.
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Good to see another fine old machine come to the stable. Thanks, Mr. Pete! :-)
Ten ton crane at one end and Mr. Pete alone at the other. Good on you sir.
I love to see older men struggle with old iron,yesterday my brother and brought home a heavy 9 SB ,SB 9 model A.drill press ,tooling and much more thanks for the video.mike
Sounds like you made a nice haul. Lots of lifting
I’m glad you decided to continue doing these videos. The more I watch, the more I find I have in common with you down to the RAV4 and trailer to haul my treasure home in. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and wisdom. Thanks Steve
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My goodness Jordan was a little boy when I started watching you Mr Peat. M
I can remember Jordon peeking over the workbench on his tiptoes. A screwdriver in one hand a toy in the other. Thanks for sharing!
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Road Trip... I love a good road trip to pick up a good machine. And no traffic what a joy.. around here in NJ 7 am the roads are full and a real pain. I love how the small towns pitch in and help. Life is all about family, good friends and adventure
Keep them coming nothing better then Mr Peter on a road trip love it
That was a very rural area. I love the small towns
This is very nice to watch, just like watching sports, doing nothing and having the feeling of a good work out on the end. Thanks, keep going and never die, pls.
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Glad to see this little machine has found a good home. Looking forward to the restoration and seeing it make some chips.
Its good to see old machines not being exported by the boat load to India to be used in sweatshops churning out rubbish.
My college Industrial Arts prof would ALWAYS say, "Just like downtown, but the streets are wider". RIP J. Russell Kruppa.🙏 Sadly, lots of schools right now have a storage area with surplus machinery and no way to get rid of them b/c of the Covid situation. Having them go for scrap is the easy route right now. 😢
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Go Mr Pete, great seeing how you got the Shaper off of the trailer. Thank you for your mentoring tips.
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3 men and a 10 ton crane to load it...Mr Pete unloads it by hand himself👍😉
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" finding a machine and retrieving it is almost more fun than owning it. ". I agree 100%. It's part archiology, part restoration and part a way to keep American industrial history alive.
You are so right, today I have mild buyers remorse
(doodlebug2121) Projects are good, they keep my mind and hands active. I need to have something to think about, plan, solve challenges with, etc. Someone said that "projects are what keep us out of the ground." Count me as one of many thousands who enjoy and learn from your videos, and are always looking forward to your next one.
Very anxious to see this shaper coming back to life! I'm sure it is in good hands. Good luck with this project Mr Pete!
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Lyle I always enjoy your road trip videos. I drove a lot of Illinois in 2010, but not the areas where you go most often. The cornfields bring back some nice memories heading North on US 51.
" Jordan . . . . nearly as strong as me " gave me a good laugh. As they say in Scotland. he's grew some !!
Thanks and best regards from ALBION PARK NSW Australia
Alright Sir, I just stumbled onto your channel. I watched one of your file videos. I have to say that this channel of yours is a gem! I am so excited to find it. I worked for my highschool auto shop teacher who was a world class gunsmith and also owned a machine shop. I spent my highschool years cleaning his shop and machines as well as boring engine blocks and doing head work. I am in my 40's now and am just getting my feet wet in tool and machine restoration and your channel is going to be a joy to watch as well as a great reference. I was chuckling several times during this video. I am so glad to have found your channel and I'd like to extend my thanks to you for it. I look forward to watching more of your content.
Thank you very much for joining me
Nice find, Mr. Pete! Glad to see your out and about living life and pursuing machinery and tools. We just returned from our 2nd 2 week cross country trip this summer from CA to the east coast where our daughter recently finished her first year of school and decided to remain and work for the summer.....and avoid returning to CA. Can’t really blame her. Lol. Lots of great picking along the way with finds such as several vintage unused sets of B&S V blocks and 2 gorgeous 13” antique brass and cast iron steam gauges. The car was quite full!
That sounds like fun. That’s my kind of trip, no souvenir stores or T-shirt shops
mrpete222 not a chance!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who takes long drives to pick up tools :)
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I'm looking forward to watching you getting the old machine back in running condition. Thanks!
Don't let anybody tell you that you can have too many tools. You can't.
You certainly can. Its just that it's conveniently the same this as "need a bigger shop"
Well Mr. Pete you just made another true statement. That is, "acquiring and picking up a new machine is perhaps more fun than owning it." I just acquired and picked up an early 1950's Craftsman Alien Head planer and got a heck of a deal. Now I need to get busy and make a stand and get it running, hope the bearings aren't shot. So I am not all that different than you, loved acquiring and picking it up. Now the work begins.
Yes, reality and buyers remorse set in very quickly
I just started to watch that series and it looks like I´m going to be very happy.Thank you.
I went to Mishawaka high school and that shaper reminds of the one we had and those wonderful south bend lathes. Sure do miss those. Simple and reliable.
Yes, and that was mighty close to South Bend Indiana
@@mrpete222 I had a lot of family in south bend and lived on the north side later on. all those great factories were gone by then. look forward to seeing more videos.
Love your videos! I watched them all the time when I was taking Precision Machining at a Technical College. Haven’t been watching until recently when I came across your videos when looking up Model Engineering. Keep on making chips!
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You've still got it. Don't stop
Mr Pete, it seems just yesterday that Jordan was a little boy down in your workshop, wow time does fly!
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Good morning Mr. Pete! Overkill? No, not at all. LOL. Good chuckle on a Saturday morning.
Dollar Generals...there is one in walking distance and 2 more within 5 miles of my house. Expand that to 10 miles and there are nine.
Have a great day-always look forward to your videos.
I love Shapers of any size. Shapers around our area are few, and far between. I'll watch 'em as long as you make 'em.
Well done on moving that alone. If I was closer, I'd be happy to help out. Take care!
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I had a 7" Atlas shaper that had been restored. I had to move due to a job change so I gave it to my brother-in-law. Should have let him keep it for me until I could pick it up. He sold it to a neighbor. One day I visited him and as I was leaving I saw the shaper in the neighbor's yard in the weather. It had rained just days before. I still feel bad about that piece of precision machinery.
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Mr Pete if you make a series called “rants and ramblings” i would watch them I find your rants entertaining.
P.S. how do you find so much machinery.
I did that,. I called it the Vlog
mrpete222 those are half rants and I really like them
Great video as always Mr Pete. I just acquired my first Bridgeport mill (2hp vari) and hope to have it up and running soon so I can make some chips. 😬👍 I want to thank you for taking the time to show your shop and equipment and how to use it. I always enjoy watching and learning from you and seeing what equipment you will find next,, great stuff! Thanks again. Eddie wheels 🧑🏻🦽.
Thanks, I’m glad you like the videos. You will have fun with that mail
You lucky dog! I've been wanting one of these 7" shapers for a while, and you have two.
Mr.Pete hope your trip went well - nothing like that drive back with the treasure! Makes driving all night worth it (as we are still young and full of p&v). I like my mills but enjoy shapers - ever heard of a Steptoe shaper? My South Bend 7" is active in my shop but the 12" Steptoe is nearing the scrap heap (which I avoid taking thing to; from - yes). Keep up the grand work - you have great insights - you're going to be a great teacher in your older age... Sorry I didn't watch the video all the way through. I'm retired - no time... but for you.
Never heard of a step toe. Thank you for watching
@@mrpete222 I'll sent you a pic... it's rusty now though.
Aww honey, just one more! I know the feeling and you can't have too many tools, I agree. Greg
Ohhh dear Mr Pete it never ends lol. Bought my first Lathe last week and I blame you! Also bought some of your books too! thanks for being such a great teacher! Wish we had someone teaching metalwork in school when I was there like you 👍🏻
I think we have the same disease
You're a machine magnet! I've been looking for years for a small shaper, nothing ever comes up by me. Nice purchase!
My friend Craig found it for me. Otherwise it would have gone to the scrap yard
I'm in my fourth year of restoring one of those straight base early models. It's been a learning process scraping in the ways. So far it's been to two Richard King scraping classes, and I'm still not even close to being finished. Having our first child in the early part of the process slowed things down somewhat, but I'm not complaining! Edit: that's the same type of boom truck they used to load my 5000 lb. Steptoe 24" shaper onto the trailer. Better safe than sorry.
lol. Good luck on that restoration. I do not intend to take mine to that extent. I will paint and pray
Mr. Pete..... I don't know who's more out of control - you or Adam! LOL :) Hey, keep enjoying the hobby!
As someone the other side of the atlantic ocean, Its nice to see small town America a bit. Ordinary people doing ordinary jobs. All you see on tv is NYC or LA.
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Sadly the Eastcoast and Westcoast rot is working its way to the middle and it's way more deadly to the American way of life than Covid-19 will ever be!
Well Lyle, seems you still have a bit of strength in ya for being an ancient relic. " key the oldies but goodies tune "
I remember when I would have picked it up and grunted and it would have been loaded. Maybe that is why my back hurts now. Ha. I bought a surface grinder last weekend. Unloaded in the shop, wiped down dried and oiled profusely. Now to get it where it goes. Harig 6x12. Will replace a relic tool and cutter grinder which I regrind endmills on. The harig will dust in my parrellels also. Ha. Enjoyed your video, especially the road trip part. As I get older I enjoy wandering about and seeing the back side of things. I love 2 lane roads.
That will be a great grinder for you. I was going to show much more countryside in that video. But that footage is on the cutting room floor
@@mrpete222 That is the reason I bought it. Wasn't cheap, but reasonable and I picked a super spacer in the deal. Probably more useful than the grinder. Almost got lost going to get it. Been by the location a few hundred times. They put in a new interstate, then I wound up on the other side, circled and found a landmark. I hate it when they change things. Ha again. I have 2 shapers also, a 12 inch flather which is wired up and I use and a 24 inch dean Smith and grace? Need to put it in storage or put the motor back on it. Been using Motor on my air compressor, no it was from my Barnes drill press, just haven't run 3 phase to it. Keep on making videos. Maybe some time I should start. I have accumulated a lot of relics.
Glad you are still hoarding more tools. Now I don't feel so bad about my recent acquisition.
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Mr. Pete I'm gonna have to drive up and arm wrestle you for one of those to match my 1934 southbend 9" lathe. Your sure have some good luck finding cool toys to play with. Be safe and stay healthy sir.!!
I was lucky to find this one and save it from the wrecking ball
@@mrpete222 yes sir. I love old school equipment. We just dont have any left down here. People just toss that old iron.
Hi Lyle, You Lucky Fella, I'm really happy for you :) (if I had space for such a machine, I'd be envious). I started my Toolmaking Apprenticeship on a beat-up old Horizontal mill that scared me a little. I felt more comfortable with the Shaper (which had a 30 inch stroke), until one day I did it (no not that but "it"). I engaged the blasted gears wrong and at about 15 inches of stroke (I was using), I pressed the start button (it was set to 110 strokes per minute by my missing one position on the 2x gear handles). Well the Bl**dy thing drew it's ram back and paused at the back end of the stroke , just for that short half second or so before going at what seemed like 500mph straight at the workpiece (which was a chunk of mild which I was roughing down, probably about 12" x 6" x 4" and I was taking about 3/4 inch cuts. Well, the tool hit the damn work and simply pushed the entire workpiece, and the vice complete with the front two flipping Vice 3/4" hold down T-Bolts, right off the table. The Vice (which took two of us to carry onto the table) shot a couple feet in front of the shaper, then descended to the concrete floor with an enormous sickening thud which all 8 other guys in the workshop felt (even though they were standing on wooden "duck boards". I was told after that I squealed and ran towards the door (which I don't remember but suppose it could have been true). The Bl**dy thing literally scared the living **** out of me and from that day on, I had a very healthy awareness that some of these machines were out to get me and could easily kill me if I wasn't extremely careful. Some of the others later did admit they'd done it too, when they started out.
The other thing I learned to be very aware of was the cylinder grinder which ran 12 inch wheels, the thing with that was to listen to the sound of the wheel spinning and be very aware if it suddenly changed pitch and became a little sort of hollow sounding and lower pitch, the next warning was the guy in front of it diving to the floor and sideways and as my Bridegport was almost in line with the damn wheel, I could be in the firing line, when that happened, a few guys bolted sideways but I only experience one wheel explode in my time there and that was enough to reinforce my view that these big hunks of metal could be dangerous. Hope you're all keeping well and safe. Long may you continue, you are a legend in your own right. Cheers, Martin
So glad you are still tooling up!
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Pretty strong for an old guy ;) Great video as always Mr Pete!
No engine hoist or shop crane at the high school? Looks like you need a shop crane too. I have the 2 ton model from Harbor Freight. Comes in very handy. But great to have helpful neighbors. Have fun with your ‘new to you’ shaper. Look forward to future videos. Stay healthy.
Mr Pete, you are hopeless, but I still love you like a brother. Keep gather'in brother!
Watching the unloading reminded me of moving my in-law"s lathes. He worked up a bolt on A frame for the end of his trailer which he could piece together as needed, attach a winch and get it done safely. Might be something to consider.
That was overkill!! Made me laugh to the moon.
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I liked the response from the guy hooking up the straps, 'better overkill than kill us.'
Good to see you out gathering treasures !
It feels like picking up a new toy for Christmas. Oh those were the days.
Love new machine days. I recently won a Cochrane bly mill in philly. Luckily I got smart and called in a big rig wrecker. It made easy work of the new machine. Wish I could have gottenvideo of loading it. But its making for many other fun videos :-)
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It's all your hard work good to see you committed
I enjoy the sights as you go along on your road trips as much as the finds,good carch.🤗🤗🤗
Thank you, I was going to show more of it, but I threw the video away
I like the videos where you get to see a bit of the countries where people live and the countryside...🇬🇧👍
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Well who needs a fancy boom truck when you’ve got a couple husky young lads. Thanks for sharing your adventure.
Love your videos. Keep the up! You posted recently (tongue-in-cheek) about moving to a nursing home. And this week you are lugging around a 350 lb shaper. I see many years of happy life ahead for you. :-)
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Well - Mr Pete is back !! What an inspiration. Thank you Sir !!!!
Love the heavy base with drawers. PITA to move but makes a very stable machine. Gonna need lots of cleanup but there us lots of cast iron there to work with. I think a couple of gallons of evaporust is in your future. It would be a great scraping project, but that requires a certain investment in tools and instruments if you don't already have them. I have an atlas 7b in the cue for a scrape job.
its nice when you can go on a long drive in the day and theres little to no traffic.
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You wonder how many items like those get scrapped all over this country where they do private auctions and there are no bidders..... a real shame. Glad you have saved a few from that fate, Mr. Pete!
Most of them. We went back and picked up that big saw
Looks like you're having fun MR. PETE, good on ya!
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Love your field trips, especially when you bring home more machinery!
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Great find and another lil machine saved
Brilliant Mr Pete, I can't believe you have another shaper. Looking forward to the other videos on this amazing machine and very much looking forward to seeing it make some chips. Cheers, Alan.
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Nice little shaper... looking forward to seeing more about it...
Take care
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Thank you for your videos Mr Petersen
Wow, nice! Shapers are great
Excellent purchase, I bought an engine crane a few years back and so glad I have it, it's great for lifting of my trailer.
Yes it seems like the way to go for lifting things in the shop, if of course you have the room. I used mine to lift my lathe and mill.
nice find been looking for years found one closet to home 20 miles man did not what it was sold it before i could look corvis 19 cost me that find I am 74 and still buying tools one day they will be great auction
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The difference between you and I - I wouldn't bid for fear of GETTING it now. That's how I got my motorcycles...I quit bidding on things. Can't wait to see you overhaul it.
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Hi, watched your full series on the South Bend sharper last night and must say it was most enjoyable, the machine looks great. I was thinking about the problem with the rocking shaft pivot leaking oil and thought of a possible idea to fix the problem without drilling further holes in the main casting. I was thinking if you put the pivot shaft in the lathe and machine off say, 1/8" of each end, drill and tap the ends a convenient size to take a machine screw and a machined stepped washer. Finish machine the pivot shaft with a shoulder on each end of the shaft to suit the ID of a silicone O ring which has an OD which would fit into the end of the bore in the casting a good fit to seal the bore from oil leaking, refit the shaft press into place the O rings, one each end of the shaft shoulders using the stepped washers and set screws to hold all in place, this would locate the shaft and seal the bore preventing further oil weep at the same time. Hope this makes sense. Stay Safe
I once worked at South Bend Lathe and ran a bed planner which is sort of a shaper in reverse for the work moved and the clapper was fixed.
I have seen pictures of the southbound plant. The planer hurt either four or six beds on it
@@mrpete222 Yes and they had two planners, one for rough cut and one for finish cut then the bed's ways where flame hardened. They of course where cast iron so they cut fairly easily. I learned at South Bend Lathe one of the most interesting things I had ever learned in the Machine trades. That was how to cut a chip breaker in a drill. Large drills had a problem with chips cutting steel for the chips would get so long they would distort the hole with the weight of the chip. The answer was to grind a small notch at the base of the heel of the drill. This would destabilize the chip and cause it to brake up. Most people could not understand this nor how to sharpen a drill. The man who thought that up was very very very smart. The machine tool trades are much more then just making money.
I know your passion about old machinery not going to scrap , but one day (hopefully in the distant future ) your family are either going to have the biggest yard sale ever in your state or the biggest Dumpster to clear it all ! In the mean time keep going and keep collecting .
Love those yellow knobs on the vise handle. That shaper looks great already. BTW woodworkers are scared of radial arm saws for some reason. In my estimation they are just as safe as a wood lathe and a lot safer than most metal working tools.
I absolutely hate those yellow knobs. I have owned radial arm saw’s, and they scare the heck out of me
I built my own toe jack, machinery skates (beats using pipe) and an engine hoist extension to move my equipment. Bought a pry bar lever dolly (mule) at auction.
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you should get a chain hoist I did and so glad makes those kinds of jobs easy to do by yourself. I found mine new on eBay for 40-50 bucks for a two-ton .
I have three of them
Just like downtown. I’ve heard that hundreds of times.
I can remember when Jordan was a kid. Nice little shaper, it's hard to believe that it has a built in oiling system.
I had the opportunity to buy a shaper once. It had probably been in a Train Shop. It was huge. I didn’t really know what it was at the time. It had a 3 phase motor on it . I think it may have been pre WW2. They were almost giving it away. I passed on it mostly because I would have needed a rigging company to move it. I was thinking of using it to flatten my anvils. I guess I shouldn’t have let it go.
Some of them were too big to move. Most of them have been scrapped
That hammer factorys looks neat as all get out!
Yes, watch my video where I tour The plant
A needle scaler carefully used would a lot of that up nicely. I use a cherry picker engine hoist if I can't use a chain hoist. Wouldn't building a gantry in the future. That radial arm saw looks like the one I used in high school.
Great edutainment and I enjoyed the video. Now you need just one more shaper.
What an incredible beautiful little shaper. I live in NZ and i need to just build something. When i do I'll post ìt here.
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I'll probably drive it off my wee Boxford lathe on low gear. Perfect lol
Very nice find.
Looks like you now have a spare shaper! Life is good! With all of the tools I’m surprised you don’t have one of those fold up engine hoists? Once ya got one ya wonder why you didn’t have it earlier. Nice and portable but handles even moderately large machines. Saves the back
Yes, I should buy one. But then it takes up storage room for 99.99999 of the time
Good job! I want to find a small one to! I found a SB 16x108 last summer and I have it working now. I also found a Van Norman 36 and have most of it working.
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You back up that trailer like you've done it before! lol
Another project to keep you busy and young.
Awesome Lyle😁 Thanks for sharing.
I am watching your video right now, LOL
So Mr Pete is the old shaper for sale . Thanks for vid
Love to see a series on how many mill projects can be done on a shaper.....
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