2:55 That's my ball in that photo! It was a brand new in box AMF Angle Plus I got on ebay for $80 delivered. What you see in the photo is the balance hole that was in the ball back in 2014 when I had it drilled up. Sadly that hole is illegal today but really made that ball flare a ton like it had a .060 diff or something! You said it was very soft for oily lanes, but honestly this ball is very, very hard. It measures 89 on my durometer. It comes out of the box with deep sanding lines from the machine sander used on it at the factory. It probably was like 320 or 400 grit out of box. I have thrown hundreds of games with it and it has never lane shined and the grit lines are still there as deep as ever. Wonderful ball.
Great Video! Grew up in Sweden and played in leagues during the 80's. Remember buying my first Angle (black) - cost me an arm and a leg back then - but soooo worth it - I loved that ball. Moved to the US in 1985 and took my Angle with me - played from time to time, but not much. Now in my 50's - joined a league a few years back and tried using a newer style reactive ball with new shoes - can't do it. I am an old school slider. However, was able to find an old new stock black angle online - had it drilled exactly like my old ball and using my old shoes from the 80's. Been playing with it ever since - carrying a 196 average.
Wow, a blast from my past. I loved the Angle line. As far as the gold angle, I never bought one. They were the best looking in the line, until you put one on the lanes and it became dirty and gross looking after 5 frames. Thanks so much for this video! Great memories.
I just "rescued" a Blue Angle in great condition! The placement and sizes of all the holes actually match me perfectly so I don't even really need to redrill it.
what color is the pin on your purple angle? i have a bonanza 300 that looks a lot like the purple angle, and i’ve been trying to figure out what ball it is. the pin on it is like a sparkly translucent color and i’d like to see if yours is the same
The pin is the same color as the ball...very hard to see. If I remember correctly Bonanza 300 balls were actually factory second Columbia 300 Dot balls, and Columbia poured the Angles for AMF, so it's entirely possible that your Bonanza was some sort of factory second Angle
I still use my black Angle every week in my league....never played with another ball. I love the fact that everyone else uses balls with fancy paint schemes and logos, and I just have this plain black ball. Love how you cannot see the spin, and then it just starts to turn......get a lot of comments on that..."I can't see the spin"...lol
I recall the Ultra Angle had to be drilled 90 degrees rotational offset from the label for lefties or else it would roll over the thumbhole. Nobody knew how to drill those balls back in the day. I hope I got that offset correct.
Just started league play tonight and I’m playing a gray Angle. Had no idea it was older than me. Or the history behind it! Also thought it was called the Langle
I remember when Joe Berardi jr was sponsored by AMF and I noticed in his pro shop in Pearl River, NY had some unlabeled grey bowling balls that he was trying out (not for sale). This was around 1982. So I suppose Joe was beta testing the Grey Angle before its official release. Do any of you recall how the first issue of the Black Angle had a problem where the core would separate from the shell? You'd get this hollow knocking sound when it struck the pins. It also smelled like chemicals when you drilled it. It was REALLY difficult to bevel, and you couldn't resurface a Black Angle very well to restore its original performance. Whereas, you could get original performance from resurfacing a Yellow Dot or LT-48 pretty well. The first Black Angle I ever had was when I drilled one up in 1983 and set the pitch angle wrong for the thumb. I had to plug it and redrill it all over again before even throwing it once!
@@jsesqa874 I am not. The Ultra Angle came out way later and was the first asymmetrical core, and no one knew how to drill it. The Grey Angle was the second product after the Black Angle.
I loved the blue and the gold angles. Had two golds. Different drillings. The blue I had drilled quarter and quarter. Regretted trading it for an Ebonite Firebolt.
The Gold Angle was my all time favorite ball. I went from being a bowler in the mid 180’s to 210 with this ball. Nobody could believe a guy like me could get that good overnight. I was very accurate, but threw it too hard. Until the Gold Angle came around and made my speed an asset with my accuracy. Those guys hated me. Back in those days, 210 was a huge average.
I don't remember exact prices as I was a teen back then but from what I remember Hammers were priced at the top end with Angles being a mid-range urethane option. Ebonite urethane was priced below the Angles, and for good reason 😉
I got my hands on a single drill angle plus and threw it last Saturday on 2nd shift on old wood and shot 591 first time throwing it in league and I have it at 120 grit trucut and it is very forgiving for me I missed left and right by 2 to 3 boards and it would hold and go Brooklyn and hit hard leave a pin and miss left and it would go 40 feet and come in and crush the pocket sending pins flying fast and if you got your hands on a angle plus try some low grit trucut pads from creating the difference and you might like it as much as I do.
@@edwine.y9920 That's a matter of opinion. In theory the core should give the Ultra better hitting power like the Faball Hammers had but I have no idea if that actually was the case
@@chrisfreemesser5707 urethane is my main type of cover I throw. Start with a overseas super obsession and when I see it jump I throw my overseas version of the black hammer that was over here in2015 to 2017 that is the magenta urethane hammer and I can creat more shape with that for smooth and if I want a urethane to shape and drive like a faball I throw my black hammer urethane from 2015 to 2017 season with same layout and both at 500 trucut from creating the difference. The Tru cut pads cut at the grit they say. 500 stays at 500 and the ball keeps the 500 grit teeth for 6 plus games.
Black Angle was the GOAT of the 80s. First and best. I had many dozens of bowling balls, and none of them were as consistently effective as the Black Angles I threw.
Purple Angle was in my top 3 balls of all time
2:55 That's my ball in that photo!
It was a brand new in box AMF Angle Plus I got on ebay for $80 delivered.
What you see in the photo is the balance hole that was in the ball back in 2014 when I had it drilled up.
Sadly that hole is illegal today but really made that ball flare a ton like it had a .060 diff or something!
You said it was very soft for oily lanes, but honestly this ball is very, very hard.
It measures 89 on my durometer.
It comes out of the box with deep sanding lines from the machine sander used on it at the factory.
It probably was like 320 or 400 grit out of box.
I have thrown hundreds of games with it and it has never lane shined and the grit lines are still there as deep as ever.
Wonderful ball.
I had a purple Angle and had my best year ever, averaged 211, 208 and 207 in three leagues.
Great Video!
Grew up in Sweden and played in leagues during the 80's. Remember buying my first Angle (black) - cost me an arm and a leg back then - but soooo worth it - I loved that ball. Moved to the US in 1985 and took my Angle with me - played from time to time, but not much. Now in my 50's - joined a league a few years back and tried using a newer style reactive ball with new shoes - can't do it. I am an old school slider. However, was able to find an old new stock black angle online - had it drilled exactly like my old ball and using my old shoes from the 80's. Been playing with it ever since - carrying a 196 average.
Just broughtout my old yellow Angle from the garage.Clean it up sand it.Going to try it out after 30+ years.
Wow, a blast from my past. I loved the Angle line. As far as the gold angle, I never bought one. They were the best looking in the line, until you put one on the lanes and it became dirty and gross looking after 5 frames. Thanks so much for this video! Great memories.
I have the trusty 1982 Black Angle. Love and still roll with it...
I loved the gold angle. Owned two of them. Had a blue angle. Did very well. Regretted trading all three of them.
I have a question what is the volume/amount of oil from 1980's oil conditions.
I just "rescued" a Blue Angle in great condition! The placement and sizes of all the holes actually match me perfectly so I don't even really need to redrill it.
I use a black Angle all the time in bowling. It’s my absolute favorite ball to use.
Loved the Gray Angle, one of my favorites!
what color is the pin on your purple angle? i have a bonanza 300 that looks a lot like the purple angle, and i’ve been trying to figure out what ball it is. the pin on it is like a sparkly translucent color and i’d like to see if yours is the same
The pin is the same color as the ball...very hard to see. If I remember correctly Bonanza 300 balls were actually factory second Columbia 300 Dot balls, and Columbia poured the Angles for AMF, so it's entirely possible that your Bonanza was some sort of factory second Angle
I still use my black Angle every week in my league....never played with another ball. I love the fact that everyone else uses balls with fancy paint schemes and logos, and I just have this plain black ball. Love how you cannot see the spin, and then it just starts to turn......get a lot of comments on that..."I can't see the spin"...lol
i still have my AMF Angle balls, Grey, Black, Blue, and Angle+. I also have my AMF Cobra. i still use these balls regularly in my league.
I recall the Ultra Angle had to be drilled 90 degrees rotational offset from the label for lefties or else it would roll over the thumbhole. Nobody knew how to drill those balls back in the day. I hope I got that offset correct.
I had the Brunswick Charger before my Black Angle, A rubber Ball as noted. Man they smelled bad getting drilled.
I had the original black one and the bought the Gray Angle...
Black Angle was a game changer, but for my money the black Cobra was their best ball of that era. Very versatile piece.
I have a 16lb blue angle plus that I got in 1998. Love it and still use it.
Just started league play tonight and I’m playing a gray Angle. Had no idea it was older than me. Or the history behind it! Also thought it was called the Langle
I had a black in the 80s, and that ball hit hard.
I remember when Joe Berardi jr was sponsored by AMF and I noticed in his pro shop in Pearl River, NY had some unlabeled grey bowling balls that he was trying out (not for sale). This was around 1982. So I suppose Joe was beta testing the Grey Angle before its official release.
Do any of you recall how the first issue of the Black Angle had a problem where the core would separate from the shell? You'd get this hollow knocking sound when it struck the pins. It also smelled like chemicals when you drilled it. It was REALLY difficult to bevel, and you couldn't resurface a Black Angle very well to restore its original performance. Whereas, you could get original performance from resurfacing a Yellow Dot or LT-48 pretty well.
The first Black Angle I ever had was when I drilled one up in 1983 and set the pitch angle wrong for the thumb. I had to plug it and redrill it all over again before even throwing it once!
You might be confusing that with the Ultra Angle.
@@jsesqa874 I am not. The Ultra Angle came out way later and was the first asymmetrical core, and no one knew how to drill it. The Grey Angle was the second product after the Black Angle.
I had a gray and gold back in the day. Still have my Ultra.. :)
I loved the blue and the gold angles. Had two golds. Different drillings. The blue I had drilled quarter and quarter. Regretted trading it for an Ebonite Firebolt.
The Gold Angle was my all time favorite ball. I went from being a bowler in the mid 180’s to 210 with this ball. Nobody could believe a guy like me could get that good overnight. I was very accurate, but threw it too hard. Until the Gold Angle came around and made my speed an asset with my accuracy. Those guys hated me. Back in those days, 210 was a huge average.
Short oil in 1986 did alot too
I have an orange AMF Angle LD, if you'd be interested in buying for your collection
How much where the faball enterprise hammers and the amf angles back in the day.
I don't remember exact prices as I was a teen back then but from what I remember Hammers were priced at the top end with Angles being a mid-range urethane option. Ebonite urethane was priced below the Angles, and for good reason 😉
I got my hands on a single drill angle plus and threw it last Saturday on 2nd shift on old wood and shot 591 first time throwing it in league and I have it at 120 grit trucut and it is very forgiving for me I missed left and right by 2 to 3 boards and it would hold and go Brooklyn and hit hard leave a pin and miss left and it would go 40 feet and come in and crush the pocket sending pins flying fast and if you got your hands on a angle plus try some low grit trucut pads from creating the difference and you might like it as much as I do.
Yes I did and that was the black angle. Now why didn't you show somebody with the right hand throwing the AMF black angle
I have an Ultra Angle. How is it different from the Angles?
If I'm not mistaken the Ultra Angle had a core (like the Hammers) while the earlier Angles were pancake block
@@chrisfreemesser5707 does that make the ultra angle generally superior over the angles?
@@edwine.y9920 That's a matter of opinion. In theory the core should give the Ultra better hitting power like the Faball Hammers had but I have no idea if that actually was the case
I owned all of these besides the yellow Angle
I use the grey one as my spare ball right now my papaw gave it to me and he just passed away soo i use it everyday
The greay one i have , and use for spares
Awesome
still using my black angle bought in 1986,,,and ofcourse the even more classic manhattan rubber as spare ball
I was lucky enough to find an ebonite satellite and I love it
Gold angle
I have a blue angle and my logo is in the same place as the other ones
My blue angle plus label in offset on the side. The amf label is above my fingertip holes.
My blue pearl hammer from faball and my blue hammer from faball would be monster's there.
They would...many of the high average bowlers there throw urethane
@@chrisfreemesser5707 urethane is my main type of cover I throw. Start with a overseas super obsession and when I see it jump I throw my overseas version of the black hammer that was over here in2015 to 2017 that is the magenta urethane hammer and I can creat more shape with that for smooth and if I want a urethane to shape and drive like a faball I throw my black hammer urethane from 2015 to 2017 season with same layout and both at 500 trucut from creating the difference. The Tru cut pads cut at the grit they say. 500 stays at 500 and the ball keeps the 500 grit teeth for 6 plus games.
Black Angle was the GOAT of the 80s. First and best. I had many dozens of bowling balls, and none of them were as consistently effective as the Black Angles I threw.
Blue angle is hideous