The AMF Angle: first 5 Angles compared

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  • One of the great lines of bowling balls from the 1980s, the AMF Angle revolutionized bowling. Here I discuss briefly the history of the Angle line, then take the first 5 original Angles out to show how they compare against each other.
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  • @nordattack
    @nordattack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:55 That's my ball in that photo!
    It was a brand new in box AMF Angle Plus I got on ebay for $80 delivered.
    What you see in the photo is the balance hole that was in the ball back in 2014 when I had it drilled up.
    Sadly that hole is illegal today but really made that ball flare a ton like it had a .060 diff or something!
    You said it was very soft for oily lanes, but honestly this ball is very, very hard.
    It measure 89 on my durometer.
    It comes out of the box with deep sanding lines from the machine sander used on it at the factory.
    It probably was like 320 or 400 grit out of box.
    I have thrown hundreds of games with it and it has never lane shined and the grit lines are still there as deep as ever.
    Wonderful ball.

  • @moorhead1962
    @moorhead1962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had a purple Angle and had my best year ever, averaged 211, 208 and 207 in three leagues.

  • @nocinoman3813
    @nocinoman3813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video!
    Grew up in Sweden and played in leagues during the 80's. Remember buying my first Angle (black) - cost me an arm and a leg back then - but soooo worth it - I loved that ball. Moved to the US in 1985 and took my Angle with me - played from time to time, but not much. Now in my 50's - joined a league a few years back and tried using a newer style reactive ball with new shoes - can't do it. I am an old school slider. However, was able to find an old new stock black angle online - had it drilled exactly like my old ball and using my old shoes from the 80's. Been playing with it ever since - carrying a 196 average.

  • @bacharhouli1
    @bacharhouli1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Purple Angle was in my top 3 balls of all time

  • @hasbeenbowler
    @hasbeenbowler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the Gray Angle, one of my favorites!

  • @christopherkelly985
    @christopherkelly985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the trusty 1982 Black Angle. Love and still roll with it...

  • @NathanThePrezPretlow
    @NathanThePrezPretlow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just broughtout my old yellow Angle from the garage.Clean it up sand it.Going to try it out after 30+ years.

  • @jakeschutz6342
    @jakeschutz6342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black Angle was a game changer, but for my money the black Cobra was their best ball of that era. Very versatile piece.

  • @SonicZoom1993
    @SonicZoom1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just "rescued" a Blue Angle in great condition! The placement and sizes of all the holes actually match me perfectly so I don't even really need to redrill it.

  • @Thumper1968
    @Thumper1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, a blast from my past. I loved the Angle line. As far as the gold angle, I never bought one. They were the best looking in the line, until you put one on the lanes and it became dirty and gross looking after 5 frames. Thanks so much for this video! Great memories.

  • @jerrynash8920
    @jerrynash8920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved the gold angle. Owned two of them. Had a blue angle. Did very well. Regretted trading all three of them.

  • @larrycaberto8652
    @larrycaberto8652 ปีที่แล้ว

    i still have my AMF Angle balls, Grey, Black, Blue, and Angle+. I also have my AMF Cobra. i still use these balls regularly in my league.

  • @datplaybeezy
    @datplaybeezy ปีที่แล้ว

    Just started league play tonight and I’m playing a gray Angle. Had no idea it was older than me. Or the history behind it! Also thought it was called the Langle

  • @paullahie3720
    @paullahie3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still use my black Angle every week in my league....never played with another ball. I love the fact that everyone else uses balls with fancy paint schemes and logos, and I just have this plain black ball. Love how you cannot see the spin, and then it just starts to turn......get a lot of comments on that..."I can't see the spin"...lol

  • @Dauwis
    @Dauwis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the original black one and the bought the Gray Angle...

  • @jerrynash7886
    @jerrynash7886 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved the blue and the gold angles. Had two golds. Different drillings. The blue I had drilled quarter and quarter. Regretted trading it for an Ebonite Firebolt.

  • @Dauwis
    @Dauwis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the Brunswick Charger before my Black Angle, A rubber Ball as noted. Man they smelled bad getting drilled.

  • @lorelaisdad
    @lorelaisdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 16lb blue angle plus that I got in 1998. Love it and still use it.

  • @jameskinchen2148
    @jameskinchen2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Gold Angle was my all time favorite ball. I went from being a bowler in the mid 180’s to 210 with this ball. Nobody could believe a guy like me could get that good overnight. I was very accurate, but threw it too hard. Until the Gold Angle came around and made my speed an asset with my accuracy. Those guys hated me. Back in those days, 210 was a huge average.

    • @frankod100
      @frankod100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Short oil in 1986 did alot too

  • @chayton4003
    @chayton4003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what color is the pin on your purple angle? i have a bonanza 300 that looks a lot like the purple angle, and i’ve been trying to figure out what ball it is. the pin on it is like a sparkly translucent color and i’d like to see if yours is the same

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707  ปีที่แล้ว

      The pin is the same color as the ball...very hard to see. If I remember correctly Bonanza 300 balls were actually factory second Columbia 300 Dot balls, and Columbia poured the Angles for AMF, so it's entirely possible that your Bonanza was some sort of factory second Angle

  • @theamateurfurry4735
    @theamateurfurry4735 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use a black Angle all the time in bowling. It’s my absolute favorite ball to use.

  • @weevie833
    @weevie833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember when Joe Berardi jr was sponsored by AMF and I noticed in his pro shop in Pearl River, NY had some unlabeled grey bowling balls that he was trying out (not for sale). This was around 1982. So I suppose Joe was beta testing the Grey Angle before its official release.
    Do any of you recall how the first issue of the Black Angle had a problem where the core would separate from the shell? You'd get this hollow knocking sound when it struck the pins. It also smelled like chemicals when you drilled it. It was REALLY difficult to bevel, and you couldn't resurface a Black Angle very well to restore its original performance. Whereas, you could get original performance from resurfacing a Yellow Dot or LT-48 pretty well.
    The first Black Angle I ever had was when I drilled one up in 1983 and set the pitch angle wrong for the thumb. I had to plug it and redrill it all over again before even throwing it once!

    • @jsesqa874
      @jsesqa874 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might be confusing that with the Ultra Angle.

    • @weevie833
      @weevie833 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jsesqa874 I am not. The Ultra Angle came out way later and was the first asymmetrical core, and no one knew how to drill it. The Grey Angle was the second product after the Black Angle.

  • @rickcaruso8496
    @rickcaruso8496 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes I did and that was the black angle. Now why didn't you show somebody with the right hand throwing the AMF black angle

  • @jusrushem69
    @jusrushem69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @traviskirk3834
    @traviskirk3834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the grey angle. I bowl on old wood lanes that are burned up from the league before and some weeks are so bad my Geico plastic ball hooks more then it should but not good enough carry so I was thinking of getting a used grey angle and have at box finish or have polished or even very very dull like 180 grit dull .

  • @weevie833
    @weevie833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recall the Ultra Angle had to be drilled 90 degrees rotational offset from the label for lefties or else it would roll over the thumbhole. Nobody knew how to drill those balls back in the day. I hope I got that offset correct.

  • @timothynalley7802
    @timothynalley7802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I owned all of these besides the yellow Angle

  • @theh0r5e90
    @theh0r5e90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was lucky enough to find an ebonite satellite and I love it

  • @smokey6965
    @smokey6965 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The greay one i have , and use for spares

  • @bradleydenman680
    @bradleydenman680 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an orange AMF Angle LD, if you'd be interested in buying for your collection

  • @fbhubbaliciousgaming4495
    @fbhubbaliciousgaming4495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the grey one as my spare ball right now my papaw gave it to me and he just passed away soo i use it everyday

  • @peterholmgren7661
    @peterholmgren7661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    still using my black angle bought in 1986,,,and ofcourse the even more classic manhattan rubber as spare ball

  • @traviskirk3834
    @traviskirk3834 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much where the faball enterprise hammers and the amf angles back in the day.

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't remember exact prices as I was a teen back then but from what I remember Hammers were priced at the top end with Angles being a mid-range urethane option. Ebonite urethane was priced below the Angles, and for good reason 😉

  • @edwine.y9920
    @edwine.y9920 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an Ultra Angle. How is it different from the Angles?

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707  หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I'm not mistaken the Ultra Angle had a core (like the Hammers) while the earlier Angles were pancake block

    • @edwine.y9920
      @edwine.y9920 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisfreemesser5707 does that make the ultra angle generally superior over the angles?

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@edwine.y9920 That's a matter of opinion. In theory the core should give the Ultra better hitting power like the Faball Hammers had but I have no idea if that actually was the case

  • @richardwright745
    @richardwright745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gold angle

  • @traviskirk3834
    @traviskirk3834 ปีที่แล้ว

    My blue pearl hammer from faball and my blue hammer from faball would be monster's there.

    • @chrisfreemesser5707
      @chrisfreemesser5707  ปีที่แล้ว

      They would...many of the high average bowlers there throw urethane

    • @traviskirk3834
      @traviskirk3834 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisfreemesser5707 urethane is my main type of cover I throw. Start with a overseas super obsession and when I see it jump I throw my overseas version of the black hammer that was over here in2015 to 2017 that is the magenta urethane hammer and I can creat more shape with that for smooth and if I want a urethane to shape and drive like a faball I throw my black hammer urethane from 2015 to 2017 season with same layout and both at 500 trucut from creating the difference. The Tru cut pads cut at the grit they say. 500 stays at 500 and the ball keeps the 500 grit teeth for 6 plus games.

  • @outcatting
    @outcatting 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a blue angle and my logo is in the same place as the other ones

    • @lorelaisdad
      @lorelaisdad 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My blue angle plus label in offset on the side. The amf label is above my fingertip holes.

  • @bengrimm1222
    @bengrimm1222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Black Angle was the GOAT of the 80s. First and best. I had many dozens of bowling balls, and none of them were as consistently effective as the Black Angles I threw.

  • @jlgvw
    @jlgvw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blue angle is hideous