How to make Post-Punk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- Want to know how to make music from the genre that helped influence gothic rock and goth culture as we know it? Then let's do the time warp into the 80's and tear up some loves. Cause we're gonna take a peek into the bleak retro world of Post-Punk.
#PostPunk #Goth #PagefireTutorial
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[CHAPTERS]
00:00 Intro
00:56 What is Post-Punk?
05:37 Basic Music Theory
08:27 Instruments
14:36 Passion for Fashion
15:46 Recording walkthrough
18:57 Song - Drop Dead Gorgeous
22:27 Finale
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Death rock? Halloween next year!
edit: because of delays and other personal reasons, HTM Deathrock will still happen, give us time.
That would be a great genre for a video, but a genre called Psychobilly isn't talked about much and I also feel it would be a interesting video.
NICE. Exciting shit. Love me some deathrock, can't pump enough deathrock into my veins, too good.
We need it nowwwwwww
ACID BATH
SHOEGAZE
Pagfire shitposting has taught me more about genres than legitimate documentaries.
it's ironic, when they made fun of Harsh wall Noise they actually got me into it. I listen to it when going to sleep cause it relaxes me.
@@v0dka885 Weirdly enough I think there's some science behind that. Why do you think people calm down when someone says Sh ?
Netflix could finance these guys into a miniserie
How To Make - _(some selected music genre)..._ 🤔
@@v0dka885
Because Harsh Wall Noise is white noise.
And white noise is used for sleeping.
You know about those rain,thunder,fan etc sounds on TH-cam?
That is also white noise.
Step 1: time travel to 1980
Step 2: ??
Step 3: profit
Step 4: drugs, I guess...?
@@Snarl616 lol actually step 2 might be drugs already -- as well as 4, 5, 7, 11, 23 to 37, ...
The goth incident march 29th 1980
: yes :
Snarl616 you don't need drugs to be a goth and make darkwave music.
finally a genre where bassists get to shine 😎
Funk also has shiny bassists. In fact, post punk got that from their mild Funk and Disco influences
@@mysticmagicsmurfdarklord6844 *finally a good genre where bassists shine
@@TheVioletBunny ....What did you say, punk?
@@cleavage2126 what are you Dirty Harry? I said funk and disco sucks. Now piss off
Funk rules. Post punk is atrocious. Some of the worst and most boring and predictable music I've ever heard.
-Mother, can we have The Cure?
-We have The Cure at Russia.
The Cure at Russia:
Victor Tsoi
Tsoi alongside with KINO are better than the cure
Kino rocked, actually. I could never get into The Cure but love Kino.
I dunno, guys, both of them not my cup of tea
Kino is the Russian Killing Joke.
@@johncohen4996 I dunno, try Siekiera for Polish Killing Joke though
There’s no sun. Looks like it might rain. And pagefire is doing post punk. It’s going to be a good day to not die.
yo it rained here too
I would drop a like but it's at 69 likes, and that's a nice number
That's a good first verse to a post punk song
Today more than the previous...
🔥
Yep, as a Russian, I 100% confirm that at the moment post-punk is having its underground renaissance here. The only problem is that in an internet era most kids refer to it as Russian Doomer Music. And the main difference between Russian post-punk and original one is that the original one often chooses the topic of politics, fears or gothic style stuff whereas the Russian one is all about post-soviet decadence and overall lingering depression/apathy, which is less of a personal thing and more of a millenial generation trait at this point.
Also post-punk is probably so popular here because we have at least one iconic band from the 80s that kinda set the course for that genre. I'm talking about "Кино" (eng. Film \ Cinema) that's commonly considered a "Russian rock" band, but many of their songs have this very post-punk-ish vibe, especially the ones like "Спокойная Ночь" (eng. Quiet Night), "Кукушка" (eng. Cuckoo) or "Группа Крови" (eng. Blood Type).
P.S.: *POOTIS PENCER HERE* indeed, комрад. Прям в самое сердечко.
Oh yeah Кино are definitely a post-punk band, although they have a lot of new wave songs too
Цой жив!
Интересное наблюдение.
"Группа Крови" Perfect pun
calling russian post punk doomer music is so sad. I mean Кино did so much for the scene all to be reduced to slow+reverbed "depression" remixes on youtube. :/
Ngl Andri high-key pulls of that look.
What a handsome young man
He looks better with a mustache though
You could say Drop Dead Gorgeous ;)
FR
That's unironically good! Cheers from Italy🎉🎉
d-daniele san?!😳😳😖😖🥵
Ciaoo anche tu qua che figata
bellaaa
CIAO!
Wee porco diiooo
Came for the Andri, stayed for the Anne-Line.
Thank you!
She knocked it out of the park!
Can't blame. Here for the same.
The drums should be played and recorded on the roof*
*Joy Division - She lost control
Do you think they played the spray can on the roof, too?
Fuck it, put Martin Hannett on the roof too
YA...The roof of the funeral parlour ! Moo-hoo-hoo-ha-ha- HAAAA !!!!!!!
Not gonna lie, you’re rocking the makeup dude
Yeah dude. You killed it.
Actual Goth since 1992 here.
Your parody postpunk/goth song is as good as (and better than many of) the actual goth bands I've ever heard!
Really good arrangement (love the Budgie flourishes on the toms!) and Anne-Line killed it on the vocals.
This means a lot, as a babybat I was really nervous about diving into this genre and I wanted to do it justice. Thank you for the validation
I agree...and I play in a goth-band...
I agree. It's legitimately a good song.
What were you in 1991?
@@AC-hj9tv a scruffy kid who had some black clothes but hadn’t really found what he was and didn’t fully get the Cure yet
I know this is supposed to be a joke video, but damn it has a lot of good info and the "quickly made" songs actually sound really good
So the next video is "how to make soviet-wave/soviet-punk"?
Edit: he actually mentioned it it's pretty much confirmed.
KINO LETS GOOOOOOO
Just let you grandaunt send you a drum machine, find a strange looking singer and add some primal base, dull acoustic guitar, write some lyrics about drinking gasoline, eating citramon pills, sniffing glue, smoking Bellamors and here you go.
@@marguskiis7711 you got it confused with baltic punk.
Molchat Doma fuckin' slaps.
@@raskolnikov7049 Baltic punk - - JMKE.
Last week was my goth friend's birthday. I gave him a radio because both of us are old fashioned.
He exclaimed, "DANCE, DANCE, DANCE, DANCE, DANCE TO THE RADIO"
I'm obsessed with this genre.
Same
No, I'M obsessed with this genre *elitist gatekeeping intensifies*
@@tuckermclean136 nuh UH I bet you don't even listen to The Bleeding Stalactites, you poseur!
Killing Joke and Mission of Burma
Protomartyr is keeping it up
You've done it again. Written a song that slaps so damn hard it has no right to, all in the spirit of high quality shitposting. Bravo :D
Russian post-punk is amazing. Molchat Doma is probably one of my favorite bands in the genre.
They try to be like Victor Tsoy (Kino band), legendary Russian artist, who... was "inspired" by The Cure :)
Say this as a native Russian, try Kino if you like Russian post-punk. But better try The Cure
I love Molchat Doma. Through them I discovered all the great dark wave bands I listen to now
@@functionalcpp do you have any more suggestions?
@@matthiasthulman4058 maybe not total post punk, but still good. Try ssshhhiiittt!
Try Kino and Chernikovskaya hata
Yall are so talented wtf. A mini documentary, new songs, and a killer music vid. All for free with highest quality. Thank you 👏
If you make a crust punk (or d-beat) tutorial now, I'll be able to die in peace
Would love to hear a d-beat tutorial, hell how about powerviolence too!
D-Beat Dad makes videos on how to play d-beat. Not a meme page and a little rough on the editing/delivery but very informative.
I support you!
Just fucking commented this. 😂
@@CincyMetalDrummer Hell yeah!
Looks so good just from the thumbnail, my goth heart feels represented 🖤❤️🖤!
Drop Dear Gorgeous is legitimately a wonderful song. I was dancing around my room. I would buy a full album like this if you made one.
..by REPUBLICA?
I love how this "parody" sounds a lot like Rosegarden Funeral Party, an actual modern goth band which is really good
I wish there was a full version of that Post-Punk Harry Potter track.
When you accidently write a Blondie song...
Russian Post Punk is honestly the best genre of music that I've ever explored. Thank Molchat Doma for introducing me.
The best russian music right now is the underground post punk scene, so many cool small unknown bands
Wanna share the names of those artists you've found? Asking for a friend :)
@bobbiebob575 bob elektricny orgazam and kerber are great
@@retrofuture1989 definitely suggest checking out Ploho.
You should also try Kino and Chernikovskaya Hata
Postpunk is the background music for living in Russia
Постпанк - это фоновая музыка для проживания в россии
well post-punk is all about being depressing, and what could possibly be more depressing than post-collapse eastern europe?
@@nottherealpaulsmith The US?
@@kusipaa8683 at least we pretend to have elections
@@nottherealpaulsmith Being a young person in Turkey lol
Кино!
Why does this make me want to re-read my old Vampire the Masquerade books?
Because it is an objectively good idea.
True dat. I still have a 1st edition VtM core book from 1991 on my bookshelf. Takes me back, that one does.
5th edition is really great despite what some of the whinier parts of "fanbase" claims.
Btw the book of nod is out of print and it's like $100 to get one used.
Vampire the masquerade is for the early "dead can dance" edge of post punk
Upvote for the Cybergoths at 4:35 :D
And the Danzig bit was just perfect.
Yesh
What’s the name of the song?
@@miguelangeljimenez3237 The sampled one of the screams from "Mother"... as for the song in the background of batman scene... it sounds like they tried to imitate Joy Division, but it's not Joy Division. :/
song name?
@@corpse.r0t967 Song is called "Burn Down Hot Topic" but I have no clue about who's singing it.
How its possible that every music genre parody song they do its soo good?!
If that song actually came out back in the 80s, it would have been a hit. Seriously, that was awesome
I've been stupid hype for this one
Anne-Line is so fucking good at this genre, holy shit! New favorite pagefire song.
Thank you very much
"and if they don't fit, buy them anyway"
I feel called out 😂
Actual goth here, this video is spot on!
PRIVET!!! DELA YU MENYUA HOROSHO!!!
Привет!
I wont stop, give us some midwest emo or real screamo/skramz tutorial!
Ain't it interesting how goth comes from post-punk, being a more avant garde, glammy, melodic and melancholy sub genre of punk. And emo comes from post hxc, which is a more melodic, lengthy, avant garde style of hxc punk. Lol so its like Goth and Emo are cousins from different sides of the punk family. Lol idk just a fun fact about the 2
How to be skramz,
1. Get bowl cut
2. Get three guitarists, Two Bassists, Two Vocalists and two drummers (keys Optional)
3. Get 7 distortion pedals and Kurt Ballou to produce you
4. Scream like someone cut your arms off
5. Act like you are god’s gift to earth
6. Done
@@honestalex5790 Yea, I still surprised by it. Both being punk descendants but sounds very different from each other.
That "pootis spencer here" makes my tf2 heart jump for joy.
It really caught me off guard but it also made me happy aswell.
As a guitarist, you can get a really cool gothy sound by playing those arpeggios drenched in reverb and while leaning lightly on a trem bar, shoegaze style. The wavery sound you get from that adds a lot of cool ambiance.
Bye: school
Hello: underground
When i first heard post punk i felt that this was the music that spoke to me like no other form of music. It was hard to understand in the beginning as I was into rock metal progressive rock grunge everything, but this became and is always the music that is closest to my heart. It is a feeling, not just music.
Fantastic video, as a goth, i can see myself dancing this song in a club, Anne's voice fits the genre so well also Andri you really nailed the make up.
10:40 "It's very rare for the guitar to be in the main focus"
*SCREAMS IN BLACK METAL*
I always thought the Russians pioneered this genre just because they are so good at being sad and taking you to a post/during soviet world. It just sounds so much more natural and sad in Russian lol
No they did not
same molchat doma is where i learned about this genre.
Post punk noobs
Calling it now: This will become the go to video for everyone who wants to be part of the long waited post punk/goth revival scene. Including me.
Long waited? There's already a revival going on since the early/mid 2010s.
@@MysteriousAsteria Really? Damn, I have been oblivious. I was aware of resurgence at around 2018 but I didn't know it's been going on even longer.
@@Gyrbae i think goth was less emphasised in the 2000s/2010s but post punk revival was big like Interpol and the strokes.
Post punk is punk but played by good musicians:
- Hooky
- Siouxsie
- John McGeoch**
- Robert Smith
- Colin Newman
- Steven Severin
And many more. These are my faves
Often post-punk band is the same people who played punk before. Like Crisis, Outsiders->The Sound, early JD, and more.
@@heracit4012 exactly, that was my point
This channel is painfully underrated. The quality of shitpost verges on unironically trying!!
Ahh yes. Goth rock is some of the best music out there. The 80s and 90s really were great for Goths. Before hot topic made it possible for every poser to go into the store and walk out looking like Tim Burton threw up all over them.....
Just a warning:
The moment you hear or read the word “poser,” run as fast and as far away as possible.
@@Ballin4Vengeancethere's nothing wrong with wanting to keep subcultures authentic and free from commercialisation.
i love post-punk so you're on thin ice this time around pagefire
I think when I first saw this video, my life changed.
I've admired the "How to make" series for a long time, and I must say this is a new high water mark. Awesome job, and kudos to the new additions to the Pagefire crew. Keep up the great work!
This is my favourite video you’ve done
Andri looks so cool!
And I will not forget, “genrer is for nerds”
And the song’s fucking good
Can I just say its truly a pleasure when a channel can this incredibly informative; yet still have such a unique and chaotic sense of humor and exemplarily editing. I been watching your channel since 2019; and you always deliver. Not only that but I am actually rather curious to try out Post Punk now - Thank you for the rec. (Espically since I usually only listen to metal; granted my tastes encompass a lot of subgenres. - Till next Time - Cheers from Australia. Will plan to watch this one many more time
This was very fun to watch, and the song actually sounds great, I would definitely go to a concert of a band who sounded like that! Also, post-punk is an essential soundtrack for Russian environment, once you arrive to basically any Russian city and turn on something like KINO in your headphones, you start to get it.
2 years later and this video is still one of the best.
Ah yes, the 1980's. Both tremendous and absolutely horrifically terrible for the UK.
Speaking of the "Post" music genre, will you dabble on Post-Black Metal in the future?
How To Blackgaze would be fun, but I think How To Post-Rock would be fun just because it's so un-metal.
@@noesunyoutuber7680 i'd be so down for a how to post-black or blackgaze
It’s nice to finally to see a genre with importance talked about on this channel
unironically one of your best songs and videos, i learned so much
I love the bauhaus furniture magazine she's reading 🤣
Yay thanks Janne!
Television's Marquee Moon is one of my favourite albums ever. Needs more appreciation.
So much respect for this channel. Y’all never disappoint
Dead Kennedys definitely had a goth side that Jello proudly acknowledged. They took UK Decay (possibly the first goth band) out on tour along the west coast, and they are sort of Birthday Party-ish at times.
Great to see there's someone who remembered UK Decay! Mick Mercer used to think they sucked lmao! I think Biafra mean't it as a joke, since those bands all had the same punk roots.
You guys rock. I don’t think I’ve laughed so hard in a long time. I used to be in a Grindcore band and man you nailed how we wrote our songs!!
One of my all time favorite genres of music, thanks guys :)
It's been a while since I was heavily into this Goth thing. A few days ago, I stumbled over your channel and these songs. You totally got me by surprise. I really love that "Siouxsie vibe". Now both songs are stick to my brain and refuse to get out, again. I'd never bought anything via bandcamp before, but this time i simply had to. Thanks & great job, man!
I've been trying to find my voice as a music producer/artist and you guys NAILED it for me - Thank you!
This episode feels most like a Mighty Boosh sketch
But have you ever drunk Bailey's out of a shoe? x)
id gladly listen to an entire album of this
Beautiful song! Impressive walk-through of how to make songs in each genre - killing it every time. Well done
I cannot describe how much I've loved this thank you for existing
If you listen to black metal in your teens and early adulthood, you will worship post-punk and gothic rock when you're over 27. That's just a fact. After all, when your youth subsits of edgelordy angsty fake anger, your adulthood will be hollow, bitter and depressing.
@@funeralpyre616 I speak from experience.
This is so fucking good!! As a goth myself i love seeing the encouragement of goth music for fresh faces in the scene!
Hardcore punk and post-punk started around the same time (late 70s/early 80s). We weren't supposed to like both at the time, but a lot of us did.
I have to write 5 Post Punk songs for the EP of a friend, this helped a lot, never hear of Post Punk 2 hours ago, already finished my first track right now.
Drop Dead Gorgeous would have had them spilling their snakebite and blacks in a frenzy of goth dancing at Phonos in Leeds circa 1985. Nice work.
Seeing Anne-Line reading the Bauhaus catalogue made me laugh! Great video!
oh I'm INSTANTLY subscribed. this was so funny and informative and now I have a new genre to add to my spotify playlists. I look forward to watching your other videos!!!
I discovered you recently but I love your videos! Keep up the good work man, we need more content creators like you!
literally came across this video while listening to post-punk. I've never been so attached to a pagefire video this much. Kinda wish u talked a little about the recent (late 2010's-2020's) resurgence in the UK other than just the Russian side, but I still love the vid, nonetheless :). Some of the most comprehensive post-punk stuff I've seen!
im going to use this guide to start a post-punk band and reach international acclaim and when asked in an interview what are my inspirations imma link this channel
In terms of the final song this is definitely your best work so far imo. That said you've made something at the very least listenable from pretty much everything.
You guys are AMAZING! Love your style, keep it coming.
I'm always amazed at how well your compositions at the end of these videos encapsulate the given genre.
The soung you wrote is really really good!
You did a fine job summing up my favourite genre. :)
Oh also, please do a video on death rock too. :D
10/10 would dance to this at the Goth Club.
this is...amazing!
can't stop listening to the song, you guys are awesome!
Coming from no technical music background I've been trying to learn more about genres and how to describe characteristics of music (jargon) and this video has been not only entertaining but one of the best informative resources I've found. Looking forward to digging into past videos and enjoying future productions y'all release. 🖤🤘🔥
Самый русский видос который я видел
I remember when Katatonia tried to start a post-punk project and they failed because they just couldn't think of compositions in the style. But they made an AWESOME song called Scarlet Havens and released it on Discouraged Ones from 1998.
Love this entire series don't ever stop
I love at the beginning him laying in the bed, it is very Lullaby by The Cure
I feel like Andri gave this genre more respect than normal.
aaaaaaaaaaaand once again, I would buy a vinyl if they ever made a post-punk album. Ya'll are soooooo fucking talented and also humorous!
Andri, my dude, this is honestly one of my favourite videos you have done. Amazing work my guy.
Much love from Scotland and a massive Joy Division fanboy
I’ve been laughing for 5 minutes straight with the “darker side of the moon” joke and the vampire! You are killing it, amazing job.
Saludos desde Colombia
Eu simplesmente amo esse canal haha 👏🖤
Man I'm not gonna lie this episode just made me wanna listen to Bauhaus all night.
wow that song was really good!! Might be my favorite one so far? Great job on the vocals Anne-Line!!!
This is soooooo perfect! You have an amazing sense of humor as well😂