Consumer Reports 2023 Top Picks | Talking Cars
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What are the best cars you can buy right now? The Consumer Reports Top Picks list is a collection of cars, SUVs, and trucks with standout performance across the board. Each represents a key vehicle segment and shines for its combination of road test performance, reliability, owner satisfaction, and safety, garnering a high-enough Overall Score to earn a coveted CR recommendation. We discuss the cars that made it to the top of the list, trends we're noticing in the automotive industry, and other interesting insights from our Autos Spotlight coverage.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:13 - Top Picks Introduction
02:57 - Hybrid Trends
05:09 - Price Comparisons Between Hybrids and Gas Engine Vehicles
08:41 - Toyota and Lexus Trends
11:04 - New Car Models
12:03 - The Venerable
13:19 - Electric Vehicles
15:34 - Question: Why does the CR overall reliability score change over time?
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CR, As the owner of a 'CR Top Pick' car from way, way back in 2005, I find it reassuring that the brand I put my hard earned money into still reigns supreme. 🤩 Conversely, it is not reassuring at all to see certain brands on and off the list in alternate years. 🤨 Focusing on the sensible Corolla Hybrid sedan for a moment, I believe its place would be even more justified if Toyota offered us the full range of Corolla Hybrids including hatch and wagon. Sadly, it is worth noting that Toyota has greedily de-contented some Corolla sedans with a return to a retrograde torsion beam rear suspension. At a time in which Toyota Motor Corporation reported a quarterly profit of nearly $9 Billion, such miserly cost-cutting is worthy of public scorn. 🤬
Time to buy some Toyota stock😊👍.
It's publicly traded.
Corolla has always been a cheaper alternative to the Camry, so the cost-cutting only on the Corolla makes sense. Maybe they pass the saving to the buyers. If they cut cost on the Camry, then I would be with you 100%.
❤Watching #399 now and can’t say this more;how much I appreciate Talking Cars.
The way CR judges reliably is a nuts. When they lack data (i.e., when a model is very new), they just proceed with an assumption that reliability is excellent. On the other hand, models that have proven reliability over time don’t rate highly. For example, the Toyota 4Runner, which is probably the most reliable SUV ever made, only scores “above average” for reliability. Makes no sense.
I recently bought a Bolt EUV and so I might be biased, but I think the Bolt is a better choice than a Leaf. Both have pokey "fast" charging, but the Bolt's use of CCS helps future proof it compared to the dying chademo standard.
CR doesn’t recommend domestic cars as a policy
Great show, great episode.
I must admit that there were a number of times I skipped back to hear what Jen had said. This caused me to notice that she can sometimes trail off in volume as well as increase speed which made it harder for me to hear what was said.
I like the details about how data is collected and used to generate the ratings which the question pointed to. I would enjoy just a little bit more drilling down on that, which may get lost in the interest of expediency and preserving the conversational style format.
As with so many things, I'm sure no role in putting together an episode like this is easy and I'm not aware of any content comparable in independence and quality, yet just wanted to put my observations out there.
I can think of few things more important to support than an independent consumer oriented organization so I completely enjoy being a paid subscriber and watching this show. Thank you to all involved.
P.S. If anyone is aware of comparable content... let me know.
Jen is my favorite moderator!❤
She should be the moderator more often she’s fun and great 😊
I like Jen's straightforward approach. Make her the permanent moderator!
I agree with Jen’s decision to delegate show hosting duties. I am looking for a new star to rise up!
Great stuff, as always when Jen’s in charge! Any insight whether the Corolla hatchback will get a hybrid engine?
The more people demand it, the more likely they will ship it over.
Probably not here in NA, since they want you to buy the Corolla Cross.
I have been a Prius owner since 2004 so its funny to see them get their moment just before EVs make them irrelevant.
It will be interesting to see the impact of yesterday's announcement that Tesla will open some of its charging network to other EVs
2005 Outback owner here with a little pet peeve when talking about how much bigger new models are than their older counter parts. I know I'm venturing into "old man screams at clouds" territory, but I'm really hoping someone at CR actually reads this comment and addresses this the next time they talk generally about auto sizes. Namely, while the 2023 Forester is significantly bigger than its 2009 relative (3 inches longer, 2 inches wider, 2 inches higher roofline) it actually has LESS cargo capacity behind the 2nd row of seats by a fairly significant margin. The older "smaller" Forester has 33.5 cu ft of cargo room, while the bigger 2023 has only 28.9 cu ft. This is a trend I've observed in many new vehicles. They somehow manage to grow significantly larger on the outside without giving us a commiserate amount of interior space in the cargo compartments.
I guess they improved second-row leg room?
There is more to comparing the costs of a gas-powered car versus and EV than just the price per mile. EVs tend to have lower maintenance costs with no oil changes nor emissions problems, but they can have faster tire and possibly brake replacement depending on how fast they are and whether the driver has a lead foot. I live in a place with high electricity costs (and high gas costs) but with 300 days of sunlight per year. I am home a lot during daylight hours. If I were going to stay in this country, I would first invest in solar panels and then buy an EV.
I love love Jen as the host! YAY!
Not to be too negative, but, as Jake points out the Tesla Supercharger network is first class and makes a trip to Vermont or JFK a non-issue. Yes, you can leave a Tesla at JFK for a couple of weeks, parked, if, you turn off sentry mode and cabin overheat protection, which are features that don't exist on most other cars. The Tesla phone app gives a full breakdown of where the car was charged over the last 30 days, and how much that charging cost, so eliminates the guesswork on what you are spending on electricity to charge your Tesla. Final thought, good to see more hybrids and EV's in the top picks. In my opinion, we should be subtracting points for cars that get 20 city and 26 highway, like the Kia Telluride. I believe CR has a policy of moving toward a greener future, rewarding vehicles that get bad fuel economy seems like a mistake.
I seriously appreciate the Vermont praises
8:10. The sun has never sent me an electric bill.
Always enjoy the show. Hope to see a ‘Top Picks’ video featuring cars the hosts could would buy in spite of less than stellar reliability, especially if doesn’t have to be the daily driver.
It would still be a Toyota Corolla. Bc only maniacs drive Hondas.
I would like to see some tire reviews.
Where is the "drivers car" in this lot? Please don't tell me the Model 3, because I don't have anywhere to charge cars at my condominium.
You apparently don’t know how CR works. They make car reviews for people who don’t like cars. Or at least for people who don’t care. If you’re a 62 year old woman, that will serve you well.
Was about to say still waiting for the Corolla Cross Hybrid.
How could any Toyota hybrid for that matter be on a recommended list when they want $10k markups. Just looked at the corolla hybrid with a 10k markup. How is that a good recommendation?
There are Toyota dealerships that have honor & ethics and sell at MSRP. You have to search for them, of course.
The markups are a DEALER problem not a Toyota Highlander hybrid problem.
CR Team... Get a Sense electric device and you could see what everything in your home is using
What about cable gate?
Haven't caught an episode of Talking Cars in a while and... Hey! Jen has new hair!
Nice plug for the fat crow restaurant with the Tesla chargers 😅
No Honda? What about the 11th Generation Accord? Top models are hybrids.
Stop the intro air gun
There there. Take your meds. You’ll be ok. Want some pudding?
Any Hondas?
🖐🤣OMG a nerd gang!🔥🔥🔥
is a 2015-2018 ford edge a good first car for a teen?
An 8 year old car might have a few maintenance issues. Likely safer than a small sedan for the occupants.
No
I would look for a sedan with Automatic Emergency Braking. Something like a Honda Civic or Accord.
Tesla App allows users to enter their utility plan and estimate their EV Electrical usage and cost, no need to guess how much a Tesla saves users vs Gasoline
What about the cost of adding electric charging capability to homes? Not cheap.
It depends wildly on the home. It could be around $500 or north of $2000. Most are probably around $1000. Some utilities, cities, and states offer rebates to bring down the cost. (Also, many folks might be able to get by using a regular wall outlet. That adds about 3 mi/hr, so if you can park for 12 hours and drive less than 36 miles on a typical day, you don’t *need* 240V charging at home.)
What about the cost of driving to/from a gas station 30 times per year? Not cheap.
I vaguely recall you might be able to a tax deduction for the install or product?
Lots variability there. If you have a garage and you have 200 amp service panel in there then it's pretty cheap, maybe less than $300 for NEMA 14-50R outlet install by a qualified electrician. Plus $400 for a 40a plug in Emporia Level 2 charger off Amazon. If you have 70 amp service, need a panel upgrade, and need an outdoor outlet with a long run installed you could be looking at thousands and thousands of dollars maybe even ten thousand. My electric co-op will give $1000 credit for a charger install and I think some EV's will help with install at purchase ie Chevy Bolt. If you have a single family home built in the last 50 years with non sketcky electrical its doable. Or if you can charge at work with level 2 and top off at home with 120v.
Hi Gabe. Wherever you are.
Toyota may have standard safety features, but they don’t necessarily perform well in crash testing.
Oh no! The Tesla trolls will come for you for not giving Tesla the top 4 spots.
Jen, your teen driver would prefer driving a Corvette I bet :)
If you tske highway alone to get to work that have HOV, you will appreciate the time save in traveling to work. That alone is enough for me to get a EV.
Toyota interiors and road noise and harshness sucks. Reliability is very important but not everything
Nice echo in the room. Perhaps not the best mic choices for that room?
CR seeks to find the ultimate car for a 62 year old woman or a stay-at-home mom with 3 kids & then uses that as the standard for everyone. There’s no acknowledgment that different people might be looking for different things in a car.
That is why they have different categories and even price ranges.
Akio Toyoda RUINED recent Toyotas by making them have louder engine noise penetrating inside the cabin, (some nonsense about being “sporty”.). Now that they booted his az to the curb NVH levels should DRASTICALLY improve.
Are people even buying the Corolla Cross? I haven't seen a single one on the road
Buy one and then all of a sudden you’ll start noticing them.
I have one. It's an appliance and blends in with all the other utes on the road. Nothing to write home about. Pretty much the Rav4 from years past but at least I could get it for sub $25k MSRP with AWD. The drivetrain is pretty terrible but running cost and MPG are good. Almost seems like the the old school Toyota they were afraid to make. I still have a 1996 Toyota Land Cruiser and a KLR-650 for my true off road adventures.
I assure you the Corolla Cross will be Very popular as a slightly smaller utility version of the RAV4
Is it just me? Does Jake look suddenly older?
I was thinking that the fine striped pattern on his shirt distracted from his presentation…fine stripes/patterns are a no-no when in front of a video camera @JakeFisher
Tesla is a cult vehicle which is a total turn off for me.
Interesting it will be to see which hybrids make it to high mileage with minimal issues.
people that read CONSUMERS REPORTS to buy things need help.. they should get a book and read it before they stroke it too,
Talking Cars is not for motor heads.. its for those people that drive slow in the fast lane, GOD BLESS AMERICA..