Koreans React to K-Pop Idol Sulli's Death [Street Interview] | ASIAN BOSS
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Earlier this week, Korean pop idol Sulli from the Korean idol group f(x), was found dead in her home. We hit the streets of Seoul to ask ordinary Koreans about their views on her death and their thoughts on the topic of this tragedy and mental health.
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"She got criticized for things that she didn't have to be criticized for just because she was a celebrity"
well said ma'am
Thank you.
my heart hurts... :((
Yes... I think cyberbullying should be considered as a serious crime( if it isn't now)
Totally agree.
@@gintokisakata4152 really, cyberbullying huh
people will bring flowers to your funeral but won't bring you soup when you're sick -jalen rose
Damn this is what exactly happened
Thats deep
Damnnn this hit right at it
And who bullyed her will say.. Ohh what a shame.. This so sad.. The hypocrites!
Brilliant
The relationship between idols and fans is like an abusive partner.
This-
omg yes...
Yes
It is true that there a lot of toxic fans, but the true ones will support the idol and appreciate his/her hard work, not criticise them for everything they do
its not the true fans... its the haters and toxic ones
As someone who is clinically diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder, I often hear people call suicide a choice. Let me be clear: when you are suicidal, it does not feel like a choice. I once heard someone compare the feeling to standing in a window of a burning building, and someone on the ground who cannot feel the fire says, “Don’t jump! You have so much to live for!” When someone who is depressed chooses suicide, it is not really a “choice.” It is effectively a surrender. You are finally surrendering the fight. You have to have been in immense, lasting pain for a prolonged period of time, to the point that your own brain literally cannot think of a single good reason why you should be alive.
The human will to live is INCREDIBLY powerful. When you are on the edge, your survival instinct will keep pushing you forward for months, years, sometimes even decades, it is so hard to finally give up. When I was at the bottom, thinking about suicide often felt like a comfort. “No matter how bad things get, I can always kill myself.” Even then, I clawed my way back. People need to understand: suicide isn’t a choice. It’s the terrible loss of an incredibly difficult war against your own brain.
Wow.. i think the same like you, i can always suicide. Does that mean im majorly depressed?
Wow the way you explained this is very beautiful
Sen I can’t say for sure, I’m not a mental health professional, but it certainly isn’t a healthy way of thinking. Clinical depression stems from a chemical imbalance in the brain; if you do have it, there is help. It isn’t quick or easy to do, but if you’re willing to fight, you can win. Depression might feel like forever sometimes (your brain often tries to trick you into giving up by telling you that it is), but it doesn’t have to be. If you can’t seek out help where you are now, there are free 24/7 international services that can bridge the gap, especially in the lowest points, and there are online support networks, too. Google is your friend.
Sen you have to get diagnosed to actually find out
You really explained it beautifully. i think i am same like you.when i think things are getting harder i am like...i can always die. i think suicide is more like an escape. People who have good mental health might think SUICIDE is a bad option but for people like me who are suffering from depression only know that its the only option..
"Dead people receive more flowers than the living ones because the regret is stronger than gratitude."
eidolon Everyone who reads this comment, give a living person some flowers this weekend ❤️
-anne frank
And most of them are from SM
Good quote
@@MissMinaOh I'm a fan and your channel brings JOY to the world. 💙
🌷 🌺 🌻 🌸 🌹 🌼 🥀 💐 ✔
she wasn't controversial. she was *revolutionary.* and koreans aren't ready for that.
The stigma against mental illnesses is so extreme to the point my heart feels broken :(
That's it!! Revolutionary ! That's the right word that describes it!
vanesa cumaku
Tell me exactly WHAT did she revolutionise?
Wy they dont ready for that??????
I think she was trying to establish a feminism movement and was not well received by koreans or they did not like her approach on it. Either way I think that suicide was not the answer. Pitty
"just stop being sad" is about the worst advice you could possibly give someone who's battling w/ mental health issues.
And "those who commit suicide are just selfish". :(
schattendiebin I’ve noticed that the people who say this crap fall into one of these two categories: they have NEVER experienced/at least know someone personally who struggles with mental health or they don’t educate themselves on the matter and view this from the victim’s perspective.
For myself, I don’t deal with depression. However, I have GAD and have had suicidal thoughts TWO times in my entire life. Anxiety falls into a similar category with depression. One doesn’t have the will power to keep this under control and it’s not like we want it to happen. My anxiety comes and goes, sometimes at pure random when I least expect it.
People, especially in Korea, really need to stop treating mental health like a taboo and start educating themselves. It’s not a joke. It’s much more complicated than they think.
This was exactly what I thought. Even the ones who claim to have mild depression seem to not understand how Depression afflicts you. I feel like they describe normal bouts of sadness. Not depression. That is a whole other level which they seem to not understand. Buuuut it might be due to the camera that they downplay it as not to be stigmatized. Or something getting lost in translation.
@@GoldenPhoenix_09 lol i say that
@@letterr4872 then change ur perspective and don't say that to anyone who needs help next time and it's not something to "lol" about
R.I.P. Jonghyun, Sulli, Goo Hara, Cha In-ha
Douglas MacArthur GOO HARA IS DEAD!?
@@nizellebalingit9663 Unfortunately yes. She committed suicide a month after Sulli passed. 😔
@@nizellebalingit9663 Unfortunately yes, she committed suicide on November 24, 2019.
I was shocked, because I thought it was Go Ara
Also U;Nee, who committed suicide in January 2007 at the same age as Sulli, also because of cyber-bullying for her sexualized image that her record company pushed that she had never even wanted.
"if u say you're seeing psychologist people look down on you "
society is toxic 😑😑
Lord Jade their korean society really is. They got to all stop pretending that they are perfect
@@cookierockstar8 those knetz should see psychologist they have problems with everything
Happens to me too.
this only occurs in korea probably, most westerners praise celebrities and people for being brave enough to go seek help, and looking down on someone who is seeking help is frowned upon.
Cancer McAids at least they’re not telling you you’re crazy to your face for seeking help, even if most of the bullies said nice things to her even if they hated her, it still probably would’ve made her feel a bit better.
"She got criticized for things that she didn't have to be criticized for just because she was celebrity" sometimes people forgot that celebrity is HUMAN too this is so sad
I disagree with the woman who said the entertainment companies should do more to protect the celebrities. Before the internet, criticism was through newspapers and magazines. In the past, celebrities committed suicide for reasons other than bad reviews anyway. I cannot guess the cause, but it seems like people all over the world are getting more and more vicious.
@Red Ivy A LOT EASIER said than done with the internet I'm afraid
@@barrymichlowitz1071 actually it's their responsibility. For example look at JYP, they took seriously action right away because of what happened to Mina Twice and Got7. If you understand from a point of view, if your belong to a company it's their responsibility to protect you at any causes. Because it's a seriously matters. Because they're the company assets. If it's was you would want the your company to protect you or want them to ignore it? It's more like common sense, just like having insurance to protect you from whatever happens. 🤦🤷
Soulsastatic ok but if you’re constantly being harassed online, they should have taken action against it. JYP has been doing it why not SM??
@Red Ivy yes i agree...🤜🤛 but they didn't, JYP took action right away to prevent any future damage to their groups. It's a matter of action and thinking. You have to protect them...i would if i was to be the boss.
"I feel that sometimes people should be respected just for being alive and existing." - Kim Namjoon
But what to do when it gets hurt....
Do you see her video in depression...she so with tears in her eyes....I don't know but I feel immediately that at least bts may have seen this video on Instagram n comments her that they love her....love or army love??? I dont know ...when I see that video of her
I'm not allowed even to have my own email id...
This society is full of down talking people...from where to get strong heart..
I even don't know about the feel...may be calling 119😊
PEOPLE: [cyber-bully a celebrity]
CELEBRITY: [commits suicide]
PEOPLE: Oh, we are so shocked and sad, (s)he was so innocent! Why, cruel world!
PEOPLE: [go on to cyber-bully the next celebrity]
TBH I didn't knew about her but I feel bad about her receiving a lot of hate comments. Why Korea, why?!!? :''(
Well cuz those are not the same people?
Yes but it's generally true of people as a whole. The South Korean cyber-bully community drove U;Nee to suicide in 2007 and now they did it to Sulli.
Junaid Aslam yeah, but all people are actually individuals with their own opinions.
I'm sure the people who bullied her are now in fact "happy", because you can also see a lot of disguisting comments on the Internet about her *after* her death.
Exactly...
Depressed people are not commiting suicide because they wanted to die. They commit suicide to stop the unbareable pain.
I love you
Which is why im considerimg it myself
@@cantthinkofagoodusernameso8956 but why? I had the thoughts back when i was 18, the empty feeling. But life is all about perception. Its how you perceive it that will shape the world around you. We are all insignificant in this universe, smaller than a microdot, smaller than microdot to 10 to the power of million. What im trying to say is, make the most of it. We all die at one point, why hasten it? Live life how you want, be a good person, enjoy the small things, take a breath and just be GRATEFUL to be alive. Make small goals and go crazy fulfilling it and feel the satisfaction and enjoyment doing so. Idk your circumstances but its not too bad man. It all works out in the end, just live with a passion and fuel your desire to be alive. Thats my 2 cents, all the best.
@@rain1676 thank you
@@cantthinkofagoodusernameso8956 dont. Think about ur parents. friends. Im also depressed but i want to heal. Even though i get tired everyday i still push myself to live life. Because i want to believe that i can win this battle i have with myself. I want to believe that there is still more for me out there and i just need to push myself harder everyday. I used to do self harm but now im slowly healing and i know i can fully heal. I just need to love myself more.
Imagine getting hate comments because you're dating. Korean fans are weird
Not only Koreans, a lot of weirdos like that live in other countries
When we celebrate them in SA...
Idk if you noticed but haters are all over the world and not just korea.
@@Nabi_yu That's true but let's face it, Koreans are harsh on idols that date. In the West, they criticise too but they never really criticise the idea that the person they're a fan of is in a relationship.
Imagine getting hate for going to a gynocologist
"being able to be born into this world is a blessing in itself" I need to hug the girl in pink and tell her "thank you" for those words.
Couldnt agree more. I felt goosebumps when read it.
I was thinking the same. She expressed really well. I agreed with her.
Reckless I agree too. I think if people could remember the people in the world that are less fortunate- like children with cancer, or people who’ve experienced rape or assault, for example. I feel for those suffering with mental illness, as I too have depression and anxiety. I look at my entire life, and realize how lucky I am (blessed 💗) to have this life. If everyone could see their worth is so much more than what others say. Helping those in worse situations, even just volunteering to read to children in the library, or donating food to food banks, can give a person a better view of a greater purpose that being famous or perfect. I wish sulli could’ve seen herself as more than just a celebrity.
I also really loved her words 😔 thank you 😘
unfortunately the world managed to convince her that it was a curse rather than a blessing.
“People who commit suicide doesn’t really want to die, they just want to stop the pain.”
It doesn‘t stop the pain tho, it passes it on to others...
@@merlinwoyda9863 Worse, they will be torture by the angels in afterlife. And I tell the truth.
@Victoria H.Guerra That's the fact, but I didn't mean to scare you guys 😮
@Victoria H.Guerra OK, if that's what you want 😥
@@muhammadhazmi3263 u wishing death on people by stating that as a fact is cruel and evil ur the reason people kill themselves...
Mental illness in East Asian countries is still considered a taboo topic to speak about because many people in the older generation will dismiss it as being an excuse for laziness or as a fake illness.
This is so true. Usually they think that it was just an excuse and when that certain person killed him/herself everything will make sense to them, but it will be too late for them to realize that depression (mental illnesses) is real.
Taboo?
Not only East. It's like Taboo in entire Asia
And if we speak out, elders will say it's just a phase. It will go away...
Its true....and in indonesia mental illness is something shamefull if everyone know it...thats why some of people who have mental illness will just keep silent until it worse and the familly wil just realize and bring them to mental hospital...
Whole Asia this is the situation. I can't even tell my parents that I was diagnosed with clinical depression.
People always forget that celeberties are just normal people like us.
Korean people tend to objectify and fantasize idols and celebrities in General, they feel ( as fans ) like they have ownership and controle of the idol's/celebrity's private life. Some fandoms even go to the extend of protesting when a celebrity is dating or simply gained weight
Lina Ahm Not just Korean I personally don’t like K pop but my friends, WESTERN people around me is worst
@@____-xc2kd where do you think that habit came from? it all arised from looking at what mainland fans do and what extends they reach when it comes to their idols.
I think they are not just normal people. I have depression, and my family tries to make me go stronger, but they don't go to pushy if I can't get up. I can curse, I can cry, I can be sad all day. But celebrities are forced to look perfect all the time. They cannot curse, they cannot look untidy or weak. Agencies force them to face all that hate with there best smile. That is turture for any soul
IK THIS IS LATE
BUT WHAT KIND OF HATE COMMENT THAT MADE HER SUICIDE
The saddest thing is those bullies can just get away with it.
Kez _ THEY DESERVE JAIL
yeah and that's so unfair
"Expressing your own uniqueness and personality"
Isn't that what getting Sulli a lot of hate comments, because she's different, because she's trying to be herself 😢
:"( unnie, rest in peace :"( I feel sad that one day I'll be older than her and can no longer call her "unnie" :"( please, I really hope that knetz will learn. But when will they?? When regret comes, it's too late for that.
It’s always when you’re different you get hated on cuz people aren’t in the level you on 😞 this is so damn sad I can’t get over how cruel and far this got
@@wannableishere1156 this really got me because next year ill be the same age as she was. This world is too toxic and i wish people would just stop with all this hate.
I actually ended up talking a little with my dad about this bc he was curious about why Korean idols all "look the same" and "act the same", Korea has those standards where you have to be "perfect" so all idols follows those standards so they can be successful and respected and so the "normal" people believes that if you don't follow those standards and you're fully being yourself it's a bad and weird thing
"Be kind to one another"
Even if it's online, is that so hard?
It's the internet. People hide behind their screens, feeling protected. It's really sad.
They lack empathy and they don't treat other people like humans who have feelings, rights and complex emotions, the same as you and I.
People need to be more aware that just because you behind a screen doesn't mean you should disregard manners, respect, and proper behavior.
But it's the internet, people will try to justify sexual harassment, victim blame people, manipulate others-- it's truly a horrid cesspool.
Tell that to the LOL community. Not gonna happen
I mean people have opinions that maybe bad or good
And the ones they are criticizing pays for it people should keep their opinion to thamselves bcoz of that people gets hurt
@@justagamer5517 there's a hella difference between criticism and hate comments. Criticism is not, oh your idol is shameless retard, should die earlier etc. That's pure hate and jealousy. Like the person being hated upon stole your ice cream when you were a kid? These garbage pieces have nothing else to do and are such a chicken that they can't even say such words to someone irl. They think that commenting this would make them a confident person when in real life, say this to someone qnd have a nice punch on your petty face😤
Not everyone has the same point of view. If you think it's good to eat meat, vegan people think it's bad.
The lady who said," I wish people would value their fellow humans more." Is so right no matter what culture you are from. We are all human trying to survive in this world. 😊
I loved that statement, it really stuck with me.
Yes we are different culture but we all same blood colour RED.
We are all human respect each other
An Angel! :)
YES!
Virginia Burchfield Exactly but sadly some are so evil and think that if they bring others down that they will be better. Sadly some humans are so sick!
I wonder if Asian Boss would actually accidently bumped into Sulli's haters.
I wonder...
I don't think so
The people they asked are adults
And most haters are teenagers mostly ages 16-19
Regine Moon all hostiles working for Pyongyang.
I don't think they would admit being Sulli's haters after this incident. I mean how many people would ever admit that they're actually the cause of someone's death? They might as well just keep silent about it in a fear being caught and accused for killing a celebrity.
Duh, they would act like they love Sulli
Koreans need to realize its 2019
1. Fix the no dating rule for kpop idols.
2. Stop constan negative comments.
3. Stop whitewashing and being racist.
4. Stop the you must be skinny to succeed.
5. Stop with the weird beauty standards.
No dating rule is not a thing anymore but delusional people still do get toxic.
yepp
@galapin kayana even heterosexual relationships are banned in the Middle East on February 14th girls can only receive chocolate gifts and flowers from their female relatives only
@@fatimahanwaar306 it's a different context tho, it will happen when it comes to religious society
It's 2019 and we need those rules to continue
"even a few haters can have a huge influence physiologically on these celebrities"
PREACH SIS!! Its sad how true this is... idols are humans too
That's VERY TRUE
But the sad fact is that no one treats them as humans BECAUSE they are idols... people criticise idols because they are idols and do not see them as people.
I bet not even a half of the people that spread hate comments even think about what they could do to the person or put themselves in their shoes.
@@jeremypark7196 yeah. Idols are humans damit why are people blind.
Hunter Exactly! But sadly many still do not realize how simple the golden rule which is “ treat others the way you want to be treated”. It sounds so simple yet hard to do.
i wonder.... didn't they mean psychologically? as in affecting your psyche
Sad fact: Sulli wanted to be a mother before she died. She said it in an interview.
And now she’ll never be able to have that.
@@InfestedLice That's her ultimate goal in life, but will never happen😭💔
Ok,your comment make me have more suspicious, let's police continue investigation, she did suicide or killed by other
I don’t think she was killed tbh? I just think it’s sad that she’ll never be able to be a mom now when that was one of her life goals :(
@@InfestedLice I understand what you feel, but if in real the killer still walk outside, I'm sure he or she smiling know when see all of her fans believe she did suicide. I will wait forensic team to investigate further.
"It would be overly simplistic to say that Sulli died because of cyberbullying. By refusing to adhere to social norms, Sulli seemed to be telling her critics that they couldn’t control her, that despite their disapproval she would keep doing her own thing. If there is one lesson to take from her death, it is that South Korean society should be willing to tolerate difference and behave compassionately towards people who make unconventional choices." BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. BOOM
"She take them to heart."
I am afraid this may misleading to some people here, but as far as I know the rough translation should be, "Because she got a lot of hate comments it might hurts her heart so much". (Which omg of course it would!!)
This sounds a lot better :') And I think the woman who said it actually respected Sulli so much by the way she choose her words.
Let's be kinder 💕
Rifa Zanira Yhh I got a bit confused when she said that thanks for clarifying
Sadly some Asian countries believe mental health is brought upon by the person who have it or doesn’t believe at it at all
@@staceyarago yep
Thank you for stopping me from making a mistake cuz I was about to curse her
I will quote a comment I saw regarding Sully. *“She didn’t commit suicide. She was murdered by society.”*
Not sure about this one. It does highlight how she was failed by the system. But it also implies that we, as humans, are unable to escape society. It's a very gloomy thought. In the end it was her who chose to end her life and not fight back anymore. It's important still to note that it is us who must fight, because society will not become kinder.
This make me think of Cry me a sad river
@@xfranczeskax Agree. People are posting this silly quote everywhere. Like you said "In the end it was her who chose to end her life and not fight back". there are people suffering for a variety of reasons every day around the world and not give in because of this, life is hard and the only thing that suicide does is making the people that love you suffer even more, basicaly she just passed a part of her own pain to her parents, friends and fans.
@@xfranczeskax agree
The poor woman being interviewed that has mild depression smiles non-stop I'm guessing to mask her pain like Sulli. She has a huge heart like Sulli too. The things she said were so heartfelt.
I know right.. The one who has depression is the one who keep her smile during the conversation. 😭😭
Which one
@@tutakprime1663 The one at 9:06 .
She seems so sweet and thoughtful I hope she can overcome depression soon
It's very common for people with depression to learn how to live with masks.
She was an angel. She was just being herself.
......
Angels don't advocate for abortion.
@@Antarctide k boomer
She was far from being an angel
That didn't make her less deserving of living in peace
Qsdfgh abortion isn’t killing the child btw
"Dear celebrities , you don't have to change yourself for people" -
They don't have to, but sadly they are forced to a point where they feel like they need to change in order to satisfy people😖
But is the price they have to pay fot that fame and fortune ...
They have to, it's called the entertainment industry
Even you gotta step up your game in the office otherwise your boss hates you
"She got criticized for things that she didn't have to be criticized for"
:((
this is korea
Can you plz tell me what is the reason for Suicide
@@justagamer5517 she didnt get protected by sm ent.
KOREA - the country where standing on your own convictions (politically) and being true to your self is WRONG, just because it does not conform to the conventional norm of their society. WHAT A PROBLEMATIC SOCIETY YOU HAVE. WHAT A WASTE FOR THOSE LIVES LOST.
@@stiphenregalario336 this is korea not your country
She didn’t wear a bra because she didn’t want to. She wasn’t trying to start some movement or something, it’s not that deep. She just didn’t want to wear one, do you really need a reason and an explanation to why she didn’t.
....
Well, it was not all about not wearing bra.. Her ex disrespectfully described sex with her in his song.. All such events killed her
..
@@hanji6813 WTAF?? who’s this douche?
It's not all about the bra. People blamed her for being part of Lolita concept, she's not. She had been blamed for degrading women's right. Not wearing Bra thing had also been blamed for making woman a sexual object.
Some People thought that she symbol of an anti-feminism.
Now they're making her victim of harrassment by men. They transfer their sin to Her ex boyfriend , male netizens(actually it's been found that almost bad comments are written by woman up to 80%. Another female tv star who was victim of hate comments revealed in her law suits.)
이기훈 Women having the choice to wear bra or not is one of the things feminism fights for. How can they think it was anti-feminist? Besides, why do they care about feminism at all? I heard Koreans hate feminism to an extreme extent.
One day when my brother showed me a video from his instagram of how a woman manages to save a man from suicide (catching him fast before the train crushes him),
He asked me;
"What would you do if one day you find yourself near someone who's about to commit suicide ?"
After I stood there for a while I answered;
"I would try everything I can to save him"
"But how"? he asked me again.
"Giving him stronger reasons why he/she should live" I said.
He saw me for a while and said, "You have seen a lot of movies. You think he is acting impulsively and he/she doesn't have trying to find at least one reason to stop doing that . When someone decides to end up his life, this is due to a deep depression that has left him with no reason to live.
Saving a life is a lot more harder than you can imagine . "
I stood speechless in front of him and after a while I told him "you're right, but that shouldn't stop us from trying to do our best to save them, if we fail to remove the suffering that they have , then we can be part by sharing them with us and relieve the weight that they carry with so much pain , and when they show us one reason not to live, we have to give them ten stronger and beautiful reasons to live and not just to survive".
If your brother is not an expert in depression or something, you should ask him if he is okay. I am not sure if this is a fact for all people but whenever I talk like this, I think about myself. I can outright explain what depression is because I know from my experience. Just a concern citizen.
@@vhinehudas
Thank you,
but this has nothing to do with my brother, because our conversations are always like that , in whatever kind of topic we are talking about, one of us has to give more convincing reasons to the other until our thoughts are the same at the end. We both know that communication is the key to have a better life and it's a good opportunity to face our problems and needs. The same thing goes to everyone , we need always to talk with someone close to as for whatever problem that we have , in this way you will feel better.
@@serendipitymusic2675 If that's the case, I am relieved. I agree with what you said. Sharing my thoughts to my family and friends helped me recover. :)
@@serendipitymusic2675 i was going to say the same as onhosh to make sure ur brother is okay. I went to a suicide prevention seminar last year and if u see someone who u think is thinking suicide, u have to outright ask them and call for help
@Ai C
All my brother wanted to say was that: -we as individuals have very little knowledge about suicides and why they happen , so we need to be sure what to do in such cases, that's all. Again, thanks for your concern I really appreciate it .
Some say she dug her own grave but she didn't, she was pushed into it.
It’s really common and easy for people to say “why choose suicide when so many people love you”. The thing about depression is, it convinces you that no one loves you that much and you’re just a useless person on earth, and your death would be better for everyone. That your death would bring more happiness for people and that you’re not worthy to be alive. I’m not clinically diagnosed to have depression but I’m pretty sure I have, and I’ve noticed that my whole family probably has depression. And this is what is constantly in my mind everyday, my brain telling me that I’m not worthy to be alive. Please don’t see Sulli as weak, she’s a very strong girl that tried her best to be who she is while facing so many hates.
I offer my sincere condolences to her family and friends
Best wishes for you and your family
Same .. they really dont know what it feels of having a depression until they experience it themselves..
ryel lim I know what you mean and I suffer from depression too so I know how it is. It is very hard and is not as simple as people think.
I used to be Depressed, and well I still am. Although after studying Astronomy I've come to respect all life even the ugly aspects of life. When you come down to it, life is a Cosmic miracle that has taken about 13billion years for you to be here at this moment, cherish it. Imagine the position of where we are in our Solar System too close we'd be too hot, to far we'd be to cold to have life. Our Sun gives life on Earth but at the same time kills life because of radiation, but our magnetosphere from our Iron core protects us from Ultra Violet rays that would otherwise kill all life on Earth. When you think about every single process going on at every moment in the day, it's a miracle of Cosmic proportions that we're alive to experience a fraction of time in the ever expanding Universe. I think sometimes we get caught up in our own Selfish World's in our mind that we forget the Natural beauty of the process of Life. I even think about the future of when we're all gone, since our Sun will die eventually in 5 billion years from now, our Solar System will die as our Sun will become a white dwarf and even though our physical bodies will be gone by then, the elements that we are composed of will remain and return back to the Stars from which we were made. So our lives will transcend into a new form of life in the Universe, so in a way no one really ever dies, our bodies die but the essence of what we are can't be destroyed because we're energy.
check out the Feeling Good books (the's the "Feeling Good. The New Mood Therapy" and "The Feeling Good Handbook") if you haven't already
Its sad when people appreciate your existence once you're gone. They are willing to hear your problem and take it seriously when its too late
Orli Rose true
When it’s too late...and they don’t have to do anything
Facts!
6 month later and i came back
Hell i still cannot believe that she's gone now
I'm not a Korean.Few days ago I started to see sulli's drama"to the beautiful you".Today I finished it. When I finished it I see this bad news (sulli's suicide).Really it broke my heart. I feel so sad that I can't describe in a word.
"I think she might've felt like she lacked love and support. She did try to share and communicate with the public, but people took it as her selfishly saying whatever she wanted to instead of thinking of it as her way of communicating to them."
She was called strange and crazy when she was depressed. That's why when we must be careful of what we say and what we comment on social media.
We should complain to Allah (God) directly and not to people. That is a loooot more beneficial and useful than people, cause people betray and Allah is always there
@@mxxz3900 What, most people arent religious and its doesnt work begging to something they think dpnt exist. Do whatever you want but give advice that actually works, besides islam is religion wich doesnt support gender equality, one of many reasons people dont support it.
@@drained1177 ikr I don't believe in that Islam religion.
@@drained1177 explain gender equality
Drained it’s not the religion that doesn’t support gender equality, it’s the people who misinterpreted the religion. Please before saying bad things about a religion do some research. If you look closely at the religion it’s so similar to other religions but because of narrow minded people and stupid people everyone thinks that Islam is bad or Islam is terrorism.
Honestly the hate comments even after her passing were so incredulous. I dont understand where human decency has gone off to. I don't see the point of toxic opinions where you have lead someone to question their worth when you are absolutely a piece of trash yourself. I am livid! I hope Jonghyun and Sulli find peace in afterlife 😔
Also IU was friends with both them, the fans should give her strength in her grieving period 🙏🏻
Its not hate comment. The country itself is too stressful to live in. Suicide is very common in South Korea. You get at least 55 to 70 people attempt suisice everyday in this country. Most of them jump off the river and drown themself.
What hate comments did she receive ?
I would find their IP address on the computer then off that . their home address and pay them a visit
😔
Now they turn their attention to her friends even IU was getting a lot of hate comments now saying she has the audacity to continue to release her album after her friends death. These people should really be locked up, they will never learn as they get no repercussions for their actions.
I just want to say something. A lot of people can't relate with people with mental health issues, but I just want you to consider what I have to say. I think what most people don't understand is that, most of the time, when people compliment us, it doesn't feel real or it doesn't make a difference in our confidence. But when someone makes a simple insult, intended to break us down or even if it comes of as an insult, it can destroy the little confidence we have. I always felt guilty having to tell people that I go to therapy. Common thoughts go through our heads. "Why can't I be normal?", "Normal people are happy", "I can't do this anymore", etc. What people fail to realize is, as strong as someone can seem, we can only take so much. Everyone can only take so much. It can go on for years, and years, and YEARS until every little reason we thought was good enough to consider living can seem like nothing. I remember just curling up on the floor, sobbing because I didn't have any reasons left. Take a moment to think about how Sulli felt. People need to take a moment to realize how close hating someone is to murder. You can hate someone, but PLEASE do NOT show it. The words that leave some peoples mouthes can cut deeper than a knife. As for the bystanders of people suffering from mental health issues, please don't call it a "victim mentality". Trust me, if I could've given my depression and anxiety away, I would in a heartbeat. The best thing you can do, is give them space when they need it and attention when you can. Show them that you care and give them love. What part about that can some people just not understand? As much as I love Korean culture, Korea itself is practically a slaughter house the size of a country. The pressure is INSANE. So please, if you see someone suffering or are suffering yourself, there are people there for you. I miss Sulli so much and I believe that every life matters. So haters, please consider the fact that this, to me at least, is a crime.
Thanks for this meaningful comment
I thank you as well. If only you knew how much I love this comment. It puts so many issues into words and it really needed to be said.
I will tell you a secret. NO ONE IS NORMAL. Simply put, most are better at hiding it.
Remember these words: People are mirrors. When someone mistreats you and acts badly when you dont give them a reason to, it is a reflection of their own pain. Every single human being on the planet is going though some level of PAIN. Reaction against action. Is your choice. To think that something is wrong with you and need be fixed OR something is wrong with them and needs to be fixed. You have the power. There are two kinds of forgiveness. The first one is when you forgive and you give a second chance. The other one is when you forgive but you choose to go on without them.
dont come to korea then
Sulli was never “controversial” she was revolutionary. She was displaying what everyone in Korea feared because the message she held was so great and so beautiful. Not wearing a bra isn’t anyone’s business than hers and people who feel they have a right to have beaten her down because of that are the ones who are “controversial”. The world just wasn’t ready for the message Sulli held.
even though I have mixed opinions on the "No Bra No Problem" movement I still think that she didn't deserve any of these malicious comments especially since she was the advocate for women's rights
fatimah anwaar the no bra movement isn’t for everyone, but a woman wasn’t born wearing a bra. Pressure to conform to society tells her to wear that bra, taking that power back for yourself has no harm
"Kind words can heal, harsh words can kill."
Rest in peace, our peach, Sulli.
Question...does depression go away because people say kind nice things?
@12345678910 I guess you're going to join her there
@@InLKdream not exactly, but kind words can make you feel loved, they can give you strength to fight depression, they can give you hope, they can show you that life is worth living 🍀
@12345678910 shut up, the one who's going to hell is you, She's an angel and she'll go to heaven 🍀
@@Ace-bk7iu isn't it rather dangerous for someone with severe depression to depend on the words of others to build a foundation for survival? Especially as it's not rooted in reality. If I say kind words, supposedly it gives hope, if I say something hurtful, it makes a person kill themselves what happens if I say a helpful truth that gets construed as hurtful?
“Only Sulli’s agency can protect her” I’m sorry but they didn’t.
But in one interview online, when Sulli did reported about her concern about this matter, her agency(SM) did help Sulli to trace the people who throw malicious comments at her..but most of the acc are from overseas and seems to be fake and untraceable..they did what they can do..even let her be in hiatus while leaving F(x) to promote without her..to give her space and time..but these haters are there constantly and repeatedly hurt her that makes she felt worthless..
akiko, but where are her parents
Harris NCTZENS overseas? From what I know they were mostly knetizens not international fans who found her pics absurd and put hate comments.
@@ridwaan1491 They used VPN
@@ridwaan1491 its those fake acc..u know..maybe locals are using acc from overseas to do these kinda things or hacked..I dont know but insiders report it that way
"I wish I was getting close to happiness" - Jennie Kim
P.S. Jennie is the most hated idol after sulli. Let's protect our baby mandu 🥺.
Yes blinks and jensetters protect our nini
"People say the greatest loss in life is death, but I say the greatest loss in life is dying inside while we're living"
Well said girl
Who wouldn't take it to heart when people are constantly judging and hating on you for being you.
@Grass definitely, yes
What exactly did they criticize her for? I had never heard about her before this news of her death.
@@josepartida1711 Everything she was or did, that's a stalkerish level
@@josepartida1711 It's always been basically jealousy from Netz
Educating mental health on people is super important.
In western countries yes but not in korea
OMFG man finally someone here said it
@@malyunmaanka4613 it should be!
@@cyberbrain6440 It would be if producer stop showing nude bodies for small amount of money
@@malyunmaanka4613 Are you speaking matter of factly or that's wat u personally think?...
This actually broke my heart to pieces when I found out.
South-Korean standards are so biased it amazes me how nothing has changed.
"I am not a bad person"
=suli
(This messed up world doesn't deserved an angel like you)
-U have done nothing wrong jinri..
in an interview, sulli was asked what her biggest dream was, and she responded, "i want to become a mother before i die." and it hurts that she was never able to do that, or to settle down in a life away from the spotlight. she had so much potential, but neither sm or netizens cared enough to step in and stop.
@Viz4 J You're the weak one, look at you being a clown on TH-cam
Viz4 J if you ever have major depression you will realize people who fight depression are the strongest people. Just because the pain isn’t physically unbearable pain doesn’t mean its not mentally unbearable. That being said I hope you have a good day
@Viz4 J u just lost your humanity
Don't hurt me like this 😥
She just wanted to be herself....
It's really sad...
If we are being ourself...people will criticize us and tell us to be more human or more proper ( if you know what im sayin) but if we became like what they want...they will say that we are being fakee🙁
“Be kind to your fellow humans”
I hope the world is perfect, and love would just be enough
When I was depressed I was thinking about my life all the time trying to understand why I felt that way. I listed all the things I should have been thankful for and all the things which made me think my life was bad. Even when I was aware of how lucky I was I just couldn't be happy. I couldn't feel anything just pity myself. I felt guilty for being depressed. It just really sucked. I don't even know how I got myself out of it but I'm glad I managed to escape that horrible time of my life. I was only 15 and I didn't think it was serious in my case because I was still so young there was nothing I could be complaining about.
I'm telling you, it doesn't matter who you are, what happened to you, you can feel down anytime and it's okay. It happens. But it doesn't last forever and you should keep that in mind. I know it's been miserable but it will all end if you hang in there a little more. Good times will come again. You'll smile and laugh again. Just don't give up.
The girl in pink with mild depression said each and every word true.Truly hearfelt.
I hope you win over any sadness and come out of it.
After seeing her again on Hotel Del Luna after a long time, I was starting to think Sulli would be back into acting. I honestly thought her cameo would help her start anew...until I saw the news. It’s saddening/frightening that when you think someone is doing alright, those moments could just be their last moments of fighting before they let themselves go. RIP Sulli.
For all the foreigners in korea: please acknowledge koreans that taking a psychiastrist help isn’t something weird
Excellent interviews. I too have depression and anxiety. I feel like I’ve lost touch with people in my life because it’s exhausting trying to deal with my issues. I know I am blessed to have this life, however. I wish others could see how precious they are and how lucky we are to be alive. Even in the difficult times. I didn’t follow Sulli’s life or career but when I heard of her death I wanted to know what happened. I’m sad because she was talented, beautiful, young, and I wish she could’ve ignored the haters. I hope that those haters were reported for their comments, especially given what happened to her. People say things online that they would NEVER say to a persons face. It’s terrible.
Thank you for bringing this topic up. You have a great channel, and I think you make a big difference doing this.
Imagine calling someone controversial for not wearing a bra. We’ve got a long way to go.....
YES! SHOUT IT TO THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK. OR BETTER YET, KOREA!
💯
The thing is not wearing a bra in public/social media, is a big issue in asian countries not only in korea. Remember, asians are culturally conservative.
manaar منار I see some customers in my store in shirts without bra's. I'm a woman myself but it just makes me so damn uncomfortable. Almost like they want to get stared at
Not Funny or yk, it’s more comfortable to not wear one-
Sulli's death made me realise that I need to be more vigilant in sticking up for my friends and family and by extension my idols. She was criticized to the point of exhaustion and it was only then people came out and said things like 'I'm sorry I only supported you in my heart'. Don't do that. Stick up for your idols and start being more vocal. Malicious commenters are vocal, why can't Good people start being even more vocal. Be louder than the haters and toxic individuals. Drown them out. Someone's life could be at stake.
She might have overcome these feelings if she had a purpose in life. When people realize that life is not a competion but a journey and at the end of the journey is Allah (God), they will find peace and be able to overcome their hardships
this. *this*
This is the most important lesson. It so important to stand up, not just for yourself but for others.
It is so important to show nurture, not hate. Even if you are just one person now,
A mountain is a build up of smaller rocks.
@@mxxz3900 Everyone has a dream and a goal in life. But imagine being beaten down everytime u try to stand up and ppl just looked on 'and supported in their hearts'. She wanted to live; she just needed the hate and pain inflicted to stop.
That’s the best way to deal with it imo. The more people speak out and show that they appreciate you and what you’re doing, the easier it is for people to deal with the “haters” and notice the positivity.
Was she still being criticised before her death? I thought it was all in the past
don't act like yall didn't post a scandal of sulli a few months back just to get views
Do you mean when they made the video about the no bra thing? That was just a street interview about a topic that was trending a lot, and the video was actually pretty positive
She was one of the most beautiful korean idol i have seen in my life so far . I was fan of her since 2011,2012. people insist to say due to her photos on instagram she got many terrible comments but before posting the photos on instagram, Sulli also received some negative comments from Anti fans which led her to leave the group. .It was a heartbreaking news. i had been shocked and depressed the whole day. I miss Sulli and F(x).💔
People are so brave behind their screen and keyboard. RIP
make our world better to everyone - dont be toxic people
Think you mean,"Don't take everything online to heart." It takes more to hate someone you don't know, than to love the people you do know.
William Roshi so you've never said anything slightly mean on the internet?
@@notfunny1410 Nope, never. I type it then erase, :p
Amen!
The problem is that on the internet you can accidentally be toxic
It was not a suicide. It's a murder. A murder committed by so many people that led Sulli into killing herself.
Shruti J Ya everyone(referring to devil knetz) took turn stabbing her
While the actions of other's contributed to Sulli's suicide, it's not right to call it murder as Sulli still made the decision to take her life.
She suicide herself is not right to call it a murder.... Suicide ia never the way no matter how bad are you feeling somewhere there will be always something to make you happy
Ignacio Paz Garcia that is not true
It’s a murder by society
Once my friend was really sad and at the point that she's seem lost rational thinking. She even try to hurt herself. Im there seeing her crying hopeless and it really break my heart. I don't know how should i comfort her. Im trying to say something but i dont know what kind of words should comfort her. At last all i did is hug her and let her cry on my shoulder without saying a words. And i realized, with our presence alone can be comforting and it give big different than alone. If you know someone who depressed and don't know how to comfort them, just being with them and let them know you will always by their side will be a big help in their life.
This is an interesting video. Especially at the end, where the advice -esque segment was. No one really mentioned actual therapy or professional help. It might show the lack of knowledge or clinical depression or mental health problems aren't just about "thinking happy thoughts". I think mental health should be talked about more openly in our society. Although it is happening slowly, in many Asian countries mental health is still very much stigmatized sadly. Thanks for the video, it really does put things into perspective.
11:50 “I think expressing your own uniqueness and personality is a way to combat depression.” It’s so sad that Sulli did exact that - embracing herself, in the later years of her life, which only brought her even more hate and harassment because all those antis and bullies kept trying to silence her and bury her true self.
And now they have won, and will probably just move onto the next prey.
Exactly. It's those soulless haters who are sick to the core, but it's always others who get infected by their poison and end up dying
Psyndrome 2097XL What?
@@agonypiranha2339 We get you, we just don't get why you have to phrase it so terribly unkind. The "so what" really wasn't needed.
@@agonypiranha2339 Sulli didn't really try to change the culture. For one thing, she followed the modern culture of "follow your heart & fall in love", and dated the man she loved. It just so happened that he was a lot older than her.
It's not really the Korean culture that attacked her for so long. A lot of older Koreans don't even have social media account. A lot of younger Koreans are more open-minded and didn't bully her.
The antis are a small percentage of despicable individuals/groups who persisted in their aggression and hatred towards her for a long time.
The world is not dark, but the dark forces in this world are very powerful. I think there's no need for you to be overly angry or pessimistic. In the end, culture/ideology doesn't kill people. PEOPLE kill people.
And btw, people help each other too. I still applause Sulli for being true to herself. I just wish she and her family had gotten her more professional help, and had taken medicines. She said in an interview that she never took medication for depression, and I think that was not the right choice at all.
(Fortunately Taeyeon said that she has been actively seeing doctors and taking medication for her own depression. I just wish all the best for her and others who are still here with us, fighting their own battles. We don't know if they will win or lose at the end. But I always remain hopeful.)
@@agonypiranha2339 Thank you for your answer. I called you out, I'm glad you see that you weren't at your best. Your comment is saying the sad truth, but please try to use your insight to enlighten and build up, instead of bringing people down. Do it for yourself. A nice conversation may uplift your spirits, too, hopefully. While this is staple advice from a stranger: Direct your anger to a gym or a good jog, try practicing kindness on the net. Actions and thoughts do make a person, cultivating a helpful attitute may help you become a happier person. I wish you strength and much positivity!
"I am indeed attention seeker. Doesn't all of celebrities also the same?" - Sulli, 2019.
Nothing wrong to wanting attention, love and support.
People hating on the late Sulli, they are can't satisfied with their own self and their life.
Honestly she just being herself. She live cast us 2 days before she passes. That's the hard part to take. 😭😢 i still have captions of her.
Shes a magnificent human being so much people love her so much and support her to death!, the haters can be ridiculous
the same people mourning her death are the same one who were bulling her.
I will forever be Sorry to SULLI 😭 I hope she's smiling and happy now.
Aw, Sulli. Bless her heart. I would have never have imagined. How could anyone hate her? She was intelligent, adorable and incredibly sweet. Rest in peace, Sulli.
There are harsh and cruel people in this world who does that, she don't even know them either. That's the sad part, and she never even done anything to them. That's even worse to begin with. Sadly...so cruel.
It's a tragedy!
@upsidedown mensch last month her dress is malfunction and since she didn't wear bra , her breast is shown on social media. This is really huge backlash.
She's in a WRONG COUNTRY. She should have travelled somewhere far.
Easier said then done... Wasn't she in any company ? They'd have rules and regulations... Why would they just allow her to leave the country as she wants?
@@tanie3543 she meant it's the country that has a problem.
@@ThreeStarsandaSon she also said "she should've travelled somewhere far". I was referring to that.
You can't escape cyberbullying, especially as a celebrity
unfortunately Park Bom for example doesn't escape cyberbullying even if she's in the US
Thank u for making
What hurts me is that when people around you exactly know what you are going through, but still act like they never knew what was going on with you...
“Being able to be born in this world itself is a blessing”. What a wonderful line. Thanks Asian boss for reaching culture across the world!
True dat once we are dead, who knows will we ever reborn as human or a damn insect.
wtf haha
Raz Bro not for everyone...
@@imantampan6759 lol jajajajja wtf
Eren relates
*it’s so unfair that idols can’t be themselves because they get hate about it, they have to hide who they are and it’s horrible, i can’t imagine all the hate and pain sulli went through, hope she is in a better place now 🥺❤️*
We get hate every single day. That is just how the world works. People will disriminate others all the time. Even at your work you get a boss bashing on you all the time.
they get love and idolized for who they're not, so they can't be themselves. it's the nature of the job. it's called "idol" for a reason. people don't idolize normal average people. can't just want people to worship you then as soon as there are haters say you're just normal like everyone else.
@@mauvehawaii exactly the job is too stressful. Even the entertainment business do not care for their artist and drive them to suicide with extreme long hour of practice and diet. They also get paid so little compare to how much they work, and the company takes like 80% of the profit and other 20% are being split among the members and staff.
I think the issues aren’t idols cannot be themselves, but the lack of education in the society about therapy of mental health, and people are keen on cyber bullying. I suspect the latter is due to the ultra repressed and stressful lifestyles in South Korea in general.
Its not only celebrities actually, everyone is facing the same things.
Bro actualy they are soo calmed if someone was get interview with me for this i probably cry right there
People care only when you are gone. Apart this she never deserved this much hate
I can't believe that is almost 2020 and posting a pic of a person using a t-shirt but without bra underneath, is something controversial 😕
That is only for the western part of the world. Most countries in the east are still very conservative.
Ironic since there's a lot of porn coming from Asia.
@Rin S so I guess S. Koreans didn't sexual any sex organs before then. Right.
Rin S American influence? here in the United States you can still not wear a bra and post it and you won’t see as much or any controversy unlike South Korea. Y’all are just way too conservative and not able to change your own views. This includes feminism, sexuality, mental illness, and body positivity. If you’re really trying to blame the United States for South Korea’s problem, then you’re really in denial.
@@Selena-rs5yi rin said "1960's America", i think you live in 2019's America, no one can deny their influence over the rest of the world. I think Asia in general used to be more about legs and skin 🤔
Greg boi if they were so into skin and legs, then why blame the United States? Boobs are obviously going to keep being something that’s concidered sexual but atleast people here can respect a women’s decision to post what she wants. If South Korea or the people that live there want to hate on a girl who doesn’t wear a bra, then that’s their own fault, not America.
Even after Sulli has passed these haters are still giving hate and putting the blame on Choiza her ex boyfriend!!
What a terrible life they must have to lost their time in negative or rude thoughts.
They need mental help as well.
(Not excusing their actions, of course!)
And krystal. They said some things to her too.
pearly seine what did they said?
@@jacynthiateo8850 they basically attacked krystal on the internet asking her why she hasn't post anything yet when in reality krystal has been there at the funeral since day 1 with the family and never left.
pearly seine actually i dont see it on instagram. is it on the korean sns that these celebs get tons of hate???
These girls seem so introspective, kind & beautiful.
Yesss we needed this awareness !!!
She is a human before a celebrity, she lacked true love. The love and adoration of fans isn't true love, she needed people who truly cared and supported her, yet all she got was criticism. If you look into the Korean celebrity life aswell you'll notice it's very very harsh, it would drive anyone to depression.
I have definitely realized something growing up: “People are like shadows who are only there during the brightest moments but leave during your darkest hours”.
I hope people take into consideration that someone’s life can be affected by words. Just one compliment can prevent someone from taking their own life. Sulli is a fighter and she has a lot of strength, but there’s only so many falls a person can take before it eventually gets harder to stand back up all on your own.
My Cousin is a Doctor, She says that a lot of people that go for a consultation aren't really sick, but are lonely who want someone to talk to. She just ends up listening to them because most people just need someone to listen to them in this age. It's sad that the most technological connected Society in history, is also one of the most disconnected towards their own humanity. I believe everyone is alone fighting their own problems on their own when it shouldn't be that way, we're all here for each other, not to be against one another. There's also people that say just grow a thick skin but don't realize that every person interprets information differently, some don't care but others will take criticism like a personal attack that they carry with them forever. It's really lamentable that a young talented hard working girl decided to end her life, while the evil still spreads around the Internet like a plague searching for their next victim. She deserved better as do all those suffering in their own hell, as the most dangerous enemy is yourself.
Amazing Anni Words can make or break anything and anyone. Sulli seemed to have a lot of friends and family too. Why didn’t she reach out to them? I bet if at least one person was there for her then she would not have felt so lonely. But then again, depression is a very serious issue that even with the help of family and friends, you still cannot get through it. Late HK actor and singer Leslie Cheung had a lot of family and friends support and a good psychologist too but he still chose to end his life. Depression is not so simple sadly...
Thats so on point..whose quote is that
Saik
where did you take that quote "People are like shadows...?" it´s amazing
As a Korean-American, I can relate to and understand different sides of the situation. No matter who you are or where you’re from, it’s very important to seek help. Societies also need to change their perception of mental/emotional health. Otherwise, results can end up in tragedies.
Everyone in this video is so precious, I wanna hug them.
They're acting like it was just a little bit of haters when there was so MUCH of them
Because it didn't happen to them.
Even though we say that little things matters. We can't deny the fact that this is society now.
So true She literally gets hate for years
It could be really that much or maybe 1 hater have like 10 fake acc or so to make it seems like she has a lot of haters. You know, haters are really coward.
@@bagashayujatmiko9855 true
sulli had sooo many haters, honestly way more than the average idol. It was probably hard to feel the fans' love over the sea of hate
9:00 “ Koreans are against making a facility for handicapped people ” That’s scary and inhumane. It should be the category to be protected..children, elderly, handicapped people... 😳😳😳
Shady 90 thats so unnormal... i am so sad😞
Can a Korean confirm this? This is fuckin sad
I'm glad I'm not the only one that got shocked by this... how can they be so selfish ?
I’ve heard something similar from a korean reality show where a daughter talked about her mentally ill brother and how her mother was considering moving here to the U.S because they heard they treat them kinder here. That contrast in that comment made me shocked. I thought it was common sense to help those who can’t do it for themselves. Korea needs to include mental health issues in their education to spread more awareness to those who are still in school to become a more aware generation. And to those who are already adults, some serious work needs to happen to change this mentality. If not, just be kind to one another. If you don’t like or agree with something, do what I do and just shut up and learn to listen because just maybe you could be in the wrong. Learn to be humble. If it isn’t nice just don’t say it bc once you say something you can never take it back.
It's understandable you can't relate because you live in a different country.
i realized that i cried unintentionally while watching this, tears going down from my eyes.. its like all things they said are related to me, because i had been thinking about 'that' too. i dont even know what to feel..
Wow the pink hoodie girl is so brave! Love her honesty💗
To the girl with minor depression.. I want to tell her to get help while she's in the early stages... doing the things you like will only suffice for so long then you'll be on to a next coping mechanism. You'll tumble down even further until you cannot climb out. Depression gradually builds. Please. Get help while you're in the early stages.
How do you get help? I tried seeing doctors, counselors, and no one would take me seriously. Everyone always talks about getting help but I honestly don't understand how one would do that. I can't see any medical professional do more for her than say 'try doing sports more often and have a cup of tea from time to time :)'.
madstrawberrypie that’s horrible! That’s one of the reasons why I was scared of getting help. So far I’ve been having therapy sessions with my friends and it’s helped a little but not so much where I feel better.
@@madstrawberrypie2614 You could try finding a psychologist, where I'm from they cannot diagnose people, but they are helpful. We have them at schools too. You don't need to have a mental health issue to start having sessions, you need to find one that you like. It's really nice cause they're there to listen to YOU and see from YOUR perspective - I emphasize because I have friends whose parents made them start to see a psychologist because of them going out and being teenagers, but the professional said 'I'm here for you and I think you have a completly normal behavior for your age'- and help you see from an outsider's perspective your actions too. Oh for diagnose the professional is a Neuro-something (sorry) and for meds psychiatrist. Sorry for the long confusing text, I'm not very good in English, but that's what I remember from family members who studied or are studying either psychology, med/psychiatry (cause u need to go to med school to persue that area where I live). Oh and physical activities, of course not overdoing, reduces stress and the risk of depression.
@@madstrawberrypie2614 depression is a behavioral disorder (i think that's the term) so the trick is to change your behavior.
since i've struggled with depression too, i understand how hard it can be. i was able to get out of it though, because i trained myself to see myself through a non-distorted view. i used to think i was bad, ugly, worthless, a burden, etc. but that is not the truth. and that's the same for you too, and everyone. we as human beings are supposed to be loved and be living happily and healthily. that's what we deserve simply for being human. what we do/think doesn't change that fact.
try to see the big picture of the world and not see only yourself. when you're only looking at yourself, you feel alone and your problems seem like the only thing that exist.
other people have worth and deserve to be loved, so why not you?
your problems are not you.
your problems are not you.
your problems are not you, okay?
if your depression were gone, you would still be you.
depression is a thinking habit. it's a habit of thinking bad about yourself.
if you have a habit of biting your nails and get rid of it, you're still you. same thing with depression, anxiety, ocd, etc.
you deserve to be happy and loved, even if you were the worst person on earth. just because you're human, that's enough. just because you're you, you're enough.
please remember that, okay?
these are the things that i learned when i was depressed and anxious. these are the things that broke my chains and brought me to life.
i know i sound dramatic but it's the truth. after i got these truths, i've completely changed and have never been happier.
help other people, too. helping others and praying for them made me realize that i have worth and purpose, that i can do good in this world. it also made me happy to see the people that i care about being happy.
be happy too. live, love!
i'll pray you find a good therapist that can be your guide in your journey out of this dark box. there's always hope!
just wait. the light that is waiting for you is brighter than you could ever imagine 😄
i'll pray for you and anyone who reads this. i love you ❤
@@unclemoriarty1436 yes I was depressed for ages but have been trying really hard to change my behaviour and thinking and very gradually it does change, I worked hard to be positive and not undermine myself, not overthink situations etc, not avoid social situations and it has been gradually helping. 💕
"Controversal actions" what? Not wearing a bra?...
I come to know her because of this issue few years ago..
RIP Sulli
@@sjh218 I don't wear a bra on most days. Arrest me I guess.
@@user-qn2ey6gk4m I also don't wear bra at night...there's nothing wrong with it I guess...no need to arrest girl.
@@sjh218 yh I just think it's Korean society in general.
Im so sick of asian society in which you always get told that you shouldnt meddle with other but yet people are judging on whatever people wear, look like, behave upon etc. Istg please let this change
As someone who has been a big fan of Sulli and F(x) since 2013, and they were the ones that got me into KPop, hearing the news was absolutely heartbreaking. In the past 6 years, I've learned a lot about Asia and even made some friends, which is big for me since I never had many friends growing up, because I got into KPop. She meant a lot to me, and I wish I had the chance to tell her that.
You never know. One of the people that they were interviewing might have sended hate to Sulli. There’s a possibility.
When someone say even a mean word to me i get really sad imagine getting hate from huge number of people and give you malicious comments. I can't imagine how hurtful and depressed she must've been. I wish people were more careful of things they say to people and just for a second think of how they might feel if people were to treat them the same way they did to her.
Get Jesus in your life. I promise all those comments will not effect you at all. Instead you will be strengthened by them.
Rambha Crystal Snow, I totally agree with your sentiment. I too, wish that people would think before posting. But the problem with really vitriolic haters is that they don't really care. They seem to be so caught up in the negativity that reason doesn't apply. Or they're just trolls that get their kicks out of stirring up controversy. My daughters boyfriend who is now 21 used to be a troll. He was 13 and smart and thought it was great fun to rile people up. He didn't really have any interest or strong feelings one way or the other but just liked to cause trouble. Its all from total anonymity behind a keyboard that they can feel superior. It's horrible and sad.
You need to go back to reading hard bound books not reading comments online if you don't want to see hate comments
That's why i keep praying for nicki minaj🙏
Don Jon yes a 2000 year old story book will make you empowered by people telling you to kill yourself. Get a grip and stop living in your fantasy world
To all of you reading this: You are loved. Your are cared for. You are important. You have a place in this world. You will be missed if you leave us. Please stay. We need you. Thank you.
So very beautiful words... Thank you ♥️
Beautiful words! Well said
I disagree, not everyone is loved. That's sad, but true.
I hope your words don't cross to the people with depression. It sounds insincere and a hypocrite.
@@mrmarcel22 Hmmm I hope not! They're intended with love and hope.
im clicking this video with a heavy heart..
how ironic people are starting to care when you're gone..
you did well Sulli. go and do whatever u want on the other side
youre loved ❤