I will forever hate Hybe, especially with how awful they treat Fromis_9. My girl Chaeyoung was literally crying because they had been in the dungeon for so long, and they made HER apologize for airing out her grievances. Hybe is too busy worrying about other groups that they can't even take care of their own groups.
lmao blame pledis for that , hybe don't manage sub labels decisions on comebacks , if seventeen weren't producing their own music they would have been neglected too
When company's earning got down, it affects artists. BTS income has down compare to last year Now hybe is planning to promote other groups and businesses through new groups. It has planned not to focus on BTS because BTS is getting old and after some years they will not earn that much.
That's not true. I'm sure You forgot fromis_9. Pledis was also acquired by Hybe. Then technically made fromis_9 as the 1st Hybe girl group after GFriend disbandment. MHJ is the reason and is responsible for ruining Source Music's finances, which led to GFriend's disbandment. Read the whole story on the Dispatch investigation report.
@@patakaidFromis_9 was there but they weren't as popular and influential as gfriend so they never saw them as threat, and they are also mistreated regardless
@@casiahi7864 that's also not true. In a multi-label system, there is no direct competition between groups under Hybe subsidiaries. Each of them has aimed at a different market. Nobody is threatening anybody. Remember, as the sole publisher of all groups and the owner of all label companies, Hybe is responsible for sales, promotion, distribution, and media publication. And Hybe has nothing to do with fromis_9 lack of activity since all creative and music production is Pledis responsible. The reason is that fromis_9 was managed by three different agencies. Read the timelines. At the time Hybe acquired Pledis in 2020, fromis_9 was managed by Off The Record, a subsidiary of CJ ENM, which manages fromis_9 and IZ*ONE. With the support of Hybe as the new owner, Pledis took over fromis_9 management a year later in 2021. But the problem is Jang Gyuri still had an original contract with CJ ENM that lasted for a year more. This then led to her departure in 2022 to pursue an acting career. Before Gyuri's departure, Hybe and Pledis managed to change fromis_9 concept to differentiate the market. This led them to the next level of success with the first win on a music show for the Talk and Talk special single, 4 years after debut. Every comeback, fromis_9 breaks their records and sales. DM and Stay This Way in 2022, Love Me Back in 2023, and the latest Supersonic 2024 have achieved top-ranked charts. This all was Hybe's work, not a mistreatment. Read the data and facts, not knetz opinions, rumors, or fans' theories.
@@SophieJadeLane17 U are still in your bubble world get out!!! The leaked documents says that they used garam instead of helping her 🤬🤬 The Le sserafim members wanted her to be in the group and they all supported her but HYBE kicked her out without giving her a chance to tell about her innocence
@@flaxsikare_forblinkWell it’s not like they initially wanted to kick her out of the group. Once the accusations started kicking in, they saw that as an opportunity to increase LE SSERAFIM’s popularity, and in fact, it worked. Garam’s situation made the group more famous.
Yeah. I love le sserafim, I enjoy their music a lot, but Blackpink have a totally different stage presence. Maybe in a couple of years LS might be more ready.
@@SH-bm8yp did you went at some concert of bp? there's no stage presence and Jennie even playback guitar playing, it's a shame and disrespectful to their fans. many people who went to bp concerts recently were very angry and upset and disappoint over bp. lsf is on other level of stage presence, they have passion and enjoy performing, bp doesn't.
I am bunnies and fearnot and I hate this treatment. I think that every group should be treated equally. Love NewJeans, LE SSERAFIM and other groups. Hate the company and its treatment.
So know you said you areboth fans......when ITS the problem with newjeans at April or September.....are youbsaid you love them both????😂😂😂 Don't be pussyyyy .....you are not love newjeans kiddos
Exactly. Artists should not have to suffer because of the unprofessionalism of a company. It's not fair on artists who just want to be free to make music and perform.
they've made it clear from the beginning they wanted le sserafim to be the next blackpink. Anytime hybe is mentioned in a variety show they only add clips of BTS and Le sserafim when introducing hybe artists like newjeans isn't the most popular girl group under hybe surpassing le sserafim globally AND domestically.... they literally pushed their debut ahead of newjeans last minute just so they can get pushed out first
@Svt_caratt she clearly mention the proof herself that she is not guilty after a alot damage was already done and even collect student signatures for proof that she helped someone who was bullied ....but the most important hybe didn't even post that proof and just ignored her then she post that herself
And i find disturbing that their favorite member is eunchae, to the point of make her host for kpop shows and also gave her own show eunchae diary according to their leaked documents so Everybody SEE her in good eyes as a the cutest maknae
It’s also crazy to me that people support Le Sserafim and Bang Si Hyuk’s relationship and hates MHJ and NewJeans, if you support one, you should support the other because it’s basically the same thing. This is just equally as weird.
@@a.c.6857yeah but they only got a comeback because they went live on weverse and voiced their frustation with how they arent getting anything. Thats what the commentor is referring to
absolutely.. It will never make sense to me. I understand having lsf first and planning to make them the biggest, but why on earth would they ruin the most popular group they have, after BTS. Likeeeeee from all perspectives, its so dumb...
it already backfired and bunnies are constantly attacking them its futile though as HYBE dont care about NJ anyway and rather focus on ILLIT or Katseye
THANK YOU. The SMART CHOREOGRAPHY is SOOO INAPPROPRIATE. I didn’t know there was a minor in the group. Threw up when i found out they made a minor do that. I still refuse to watch that choreography for exploiting and sexualizing Eunchae….
We literally know why. You’ve said it yourself. The whole fight with MHJ? He wanted to prove so badly that whatever group mhj was so sure would go big WOULDNT go big, and that his girl group would. So obviously he’s gonna go above and beyond for them. He doesn’t like NewJeans because they proved him wrong and MHJ right. Them being Hybe’s “first girl group” is just a cover, because NewJeans was supposed to debut first right? Why are we still talking about this. You’ve already mentioned enough points for me to even make this conclusion.
Content maker needing content. I agree with you though. It's just BSH vs MHJ. Funny thing is that rivalries are healthy. They don't need controversy, just keep promoting both and the consumers will establish that on their own.
@@say5683 This just assumes that MHJ is malicious in her actions. Here is a different perspective. MHJ found a group of talented youngsters that she believes in. She decided to do all that she can so this group can accomplish their dreams. She felt like upper management is no longer acting in the best interest of her group and decided that doing questionable acts is worth it for the good of the group. Misguided? Maybe. Malicious and selfish? No. Things aren't just black and white.
HYBE buried GFRIEND, fromis_9, and erase the history of PLEDIS ENTERTAINMENT and former artists/idols/music. What are they doing now burying New Jeans members but owning the group's name NJ/New Jeans copyrights because they own ADOR
Its not le sserafim trying to compete with them. Remember all this drama is because of hybe we should just keep sending love to new jeans and le sserafim ❤
The hate train has already gone.... You should stop being a millennial and look at the present! They have improved sm and just seeing u have saw 15 sec clips of their coachella performance and 1-2 encores doesn't means they were always bad at vocals!
Never paid attention to them after hybe used and kicked garam out .and what hybe is doing to new jeans if they disband I will not support any hybe group in the future.
garam was acused of bullying two weeks after debuting and was put in a hiatus and about a month later hybe kicked her out cuz apparently she was the bully. she later posted on her friend's insta (with prove) that she only verbally cussed at a student who spread n4ked and bikini photos of her classmates around. so she was basically standing up for her friends but was called the bully and hybe knew about her past but still let her join the group only to kick her out a month later. fans suspect hybe had used this to garner attention from public and so more people could notice lesserafim. anyways, garam is now in collage studying acting. lets cheer her on.
Lessarifim will not achieve which Newjeans achieved in just 2 years even if Newjeans disband. No one literally no one can create such a fabulous and fresh concept like min hee jin did to create Newjeans
The only reason why le sserafim cant reach the amount of fame like new jeans and outer groups are because of hybe they are breaking there own groups and as a fearnot they did not deserve this and yes new jeans fromis and gfreind to but its just hard to see my favorite group being pulled down by hybe themselves
I love le sserafim and their energy and their songs.....le girls are just my style ❤ they are working hard and working hard on the right thing that is their job as idols so I will support them ❤
Bang PD even texts with Eunchae. She admitted it during her star diary with some of the members of NMIXX and you could tell the Nmixx girlies were shocked that they had that level of relationship with such a high up senior in the company. Eunchae naively was like "you mean you don't text with JYP? something to that extent. So yeah, he definitely does favor them.
But if someone points out that the same Dynamics with New Jeans and MHJ is wrong then they're the bad guy ? And don't even bring in the "they're both women" angle coz she's literally had pics of Nearly naked underage girls and has this creepy obsession with minors . Even aired her private chats with the girls just for public support but ofc nobody budges ( and I'm not BSH bootlicker both these cr33ps need to stay away from these groups)
Bang specifically scouted for sakura and chaewon after izone disbandment He is also involved on ALL their songs and one of their chief producer Lsfm is officially and literally BangPD GG, so of course he favors them
You Fearnots will die on that Lesserafim hill wont ya? Youre clearly proving the point of the video. that he favors them. Im pointing out that other groups, such as NMIXX think it's unusual because it is. MOST CEOS have some level of involvement when it comes to recruiting talent. JYP does too, im not here to debate you guys, im pointing out info thats readily available on the internet.
It's weird that Nmixx was shocked by it since Itzy and Twice have both said that they text with JYP and he sometimes takes them out to dinner and stuff. They even joke around with him. And, all JYP idols are known for clowning on JYP any chance they get. Maybe it's because JYP wasn't involved with Nmixx like he was with the more senior groups. I don't know if that's the case or not but, since it's said that he is pretty much retired from the business side of JYPE now, it would make sense.
Isn't New Jeans getting more fancy brand deal for each individual even before debut while non of LSFM during that time have a Gucci or Loius Voitton deal...
I personally love Le sserafim but personally I feel like New Jeans is that sort of group for whom it’s very natural to top everything. Le sserafim is good but New jeans has more of that potential.
@jrjejune Most of the groups lead with one concepts only. Plus NewJeans literally has amazing stories to connect with their Music videos. I remember gushing over every Music Video. In fact they have different instrumentals and they put out stuff which is unexpected.
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 It is pretty expensive for another company to take all members of the group. Either they have to split like the Gfriend members did or be with the company. There’s one more way, that they go independent but looking at the situation they are highly dependent on their company.
@@jrjejune literly they stick to one concept but the style changes thats what most groups do, like blackpink and aespa and lesserfim and straykids dont act as if newjeans are boring when many groups do the same
Le-sserafim is great but they could have done better...i don't know why hybe is soo jealous of other groups....❤ they all deserve love but hybe and sm is born as a disappointment. Along with min hee jin.
Which one? The name or the girls? You said woman And woman mean one If you want to talk about NewJeans as a whole you say “one of the Time magazines most inspiring group” or “womens”
I love it how fans from both Le Sserafim and New Jeans are fighting and acting like the girls themselves are the problem when in reality it’s their company’s fault. I never participate in these fans wars because all these girls are literally friends and wouldn’t consider any of the people participating in these fan wars actual fans of either group, how about we stop comparing groups to each other and just support them and if you don’t like a certain group for whatever reason that’s fine don’t listen to them
@@IsabeleThornsI’ve never said anything bad about newjeans I don’t think they’re as good as their fans make them out to be but you’re acting like I completely agree with everything that’s been happening to them in this whole hybe drama which I don’t the fact Hanni had to speak out at the audit proves that there’s something wrong with how things are being ran currently but New Jeans fans bringing Le Sserafim into this is just useless and doesn’t improve New Jeans situation at all it just makes them look worse (their fans not the girls themselves)
@@ViewerforYou’re just wrong and people like you have been proven wrong so many times it’s crazy I guarantee your reply if there’s one is gonna be something to do with Coachella but anyone with even a half developed brain knows that performance was not nearly as bad as it was made out to be was it their best no but week 2 especially is a solid at least 8 out of 10 and for the love of god if you reply I don’t wanna see the word backtrack because I hate to break it you everyone single group including your fav uses one
I mean, le sserafim was a group to be debuted on hybe not in a subdiary (souce music). The group was designed, planned and produced by BSH, even the producers of BTS are the same as those of Le sserafim. If you stop to notice the style, genres, diversity and production of le sserafim it's similar to bts (for toxic fans, I'm not comparing it). It is the group style produced by BSH. The musical genres are stronger, message in the songs, girl power vibe mixed with a funny concept. It's BSH's style, the group is produced by him, I think that's where the attention and favoritism comes from. But it does not justify reducing the other groups (they are managed by other producers and subsidiaries)
Without talent u can always work it out but nothing could fix old pants snkey behavior two oldest lsf member survive entertainment industry cos they had right attitude and professionalism which nver gonna happen if their personality junked like old pants
The hate train has already gone.... You should stop being a millennial and look at the present! They have improved sm and just seeing u have saw 15 sec clips of their coachella performance and 1-2 encores doesn't means they were always bad at vocals!
@@lovecapri823Do you think they improved??? I would love to see videos of them singing. Can you attach links of their performances where they actually sang live without lip syncing or anything that made you say that they've improved??
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 tell me you have never watched the newjeans members without telling me. newjeans members are all literal angels, not fake like most idols, they actually stand up for themselves and others.
@@Zoom03352 lol said the idol whos ignored illit bow several times and admitting crying on national anssembly is pure performance 🤡 Good riddance they finally asking to get out from building so whatever take ur angel or destruction far from hybe 🫰🏻
I have never understood why the hate is directed at the groups and not the company. The girls don't have the power or control over the decisions made by their management
yea like why did hybe started hating newjeans out of the blue when he spent so much on their debut. and why he love illit and lesserafim so much. we still dont know the real reason behind this whole drama
What? Ofc we know why. It’s because Bang Si-hyuk was not the responsible for creating NJ - but for Lesserafim. NJ was created through a sub label and mainly through Min Hee-jin. Just another greedy man.
@@su_soek why was my answer deleted? I just said what other commenters are writing. That it’s because bang wasn’t responsible for creating NewJeans but for Lesserafim and Illit.
he was involved with le sserafim since their debut in writing songs , in their concept etc also Lesserafim was about to debut in bighit but he thought BTS fan will be jealous and hate le sserafim that's why he made them debut under source music in other words he made lesserafim that's why he favour them more and wants them to gain top position
lesserafim was debuted under source music cause mhj and NJ left source music in debt after using somu's resources. lesserafim was debuted to help somu paid NJ and mhj shit
Bunnies dont care about facts, they'll continue to hate especially lsfm They thought everything is a conspiracy and everything is against new jeans They only know min hee jin is the sole creator of new jeans but little did they know "250" the composer of hype boy, ditto and super shy is under HYBE..
Le Sserafim should be treated well. They and their company are not trying to actively destroy HYBE. Le Sserafim has never said that they will not do their job. I love how this channel he talking about the leaked HYBE documents when we all know it was done by MJH.
just say you are hype stand and that pig supporter. like if anything bad haven't to that company it's mhj fault. that company deserve what is happening to them right now.that company has been done so many bad things to so many idols not just nj
Tbh I feel like everyone can see LSF are not treated as badly as NJ and F9 for example (as for ILT they are very much new so for now Idrk). Anyway as always it's those sh*tty companies fault not the idols. BIG HIT was kinda okay but HYBE is demonic the way SM is demonic which is a lot ! (I consider myself an SM artists fan but I hate this f*cked up company with my soul.)
@@jrjejune fx's career as a group was kinda tragic :'') it was 50% sm and 50% everything else. Sm did the bare minimum for them at best but the later half of their career was screwed over by timing, politics and fandom nature.
@@jrjejune you're right, that's what i say: NJ are now boycotted by Hybe and have bad sales; i'm not against NJ or Le serafim, i love both groups because i'm not a stan of a single group, i listen to everything, i'm angry because Hybe is ruining his groups and wasting the talent of the girls
Guess who would have killed it at Coachella….New Jeans! ..hybe is dumb af …lessrfim is cool visually but their rock vibes suck and so do their live vocals
just because lesserafim have bad vocals doesnt mean new jeans is good 🤡 new jeans have WORSE vocals than lessera 😆they are worse dancers too hard carried by their songs
Mind you, Lesserafim already have an album and Japanese release only a year after debut but NewJeans only got two singles and 2 EP in two years that leaves me an unfairness of discography by both groups
le sserafim is an amazing group with a lot of potential and they have great talent BUT the fact that hybe wants them to like BLACKPINK and TWICE is just stupid and dumb......don't get me wrong I love LE SSERAFIM but come on BLACKPINK has been THE MOST POPULAR girl group IN the history of Groups........... and TWICE might not be able to attract attention but they still ROCK
Man, bang si hyuk is just liek someone who gets tired of playing with a toy and wants a new one as soon as possible. I feel bad for all groups that are under hybe’s control
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 lol don’t give me the shaman excuse, even Bang shi hyuk might have gone to a shaman aswell, considering how he f**ks around with Streamers half his age 🥴
@@CutiePie-v9r lol then why leeching on company he build go out simple u can fight ur contract after that instead they squatting on hybe facilities like beggar
@ lol The Profits NewJeans made for Hybe is greater than all their girl groups combined, Hybe should be grateful to them instead considering they’re one of the top artist in the Nation 🙄
Yeah people should not forget that under Bang, he had 15, 17 yo MINORS do weird choreo and he was super involved with LSFM and for their debut had that weird humping choreo... again with a minor. When I think about what Bang has said through Hybe, I just think "every accusation is a confession" and in this case, it's all that nonsense people keep bringing up about Min Hee Jin when they're not considering all the gross things Bang Si Hyuk has done from the beginning.
The tragedy for me is it's come down to LeSserafim vs New Jeans vs Illit...i love all three. But the battle is mainly in the fan pool as opposed to between the groups
source music agency is professional, not in high demand and has problems with hybe, that's why hybe supports Le Sserafim, not only Le Sserafim, illit is also given a lot of attention, new jeans also gets attention, just because min heejin ruined hybe's good name, it's not wrong that some of the staff from the agency whose name was ruined by min heejin (bitlab) also don't like new jeans, hybe actually doesn't differentiate between its girl group idols, please don't make slanderous news about Le Sserafim by lifting it from Korean haters news or hatter comments. enough don't hates again to Le Sserafim, they have suffered enough from haters' comments, they work hard and talented too
welp we cant control others but all i know is hybe made a huge misjudgment of le sserafim's readiness for coachella or hybe is delusional thinking they can peform 300% better just cause the event is called coachella forgetting all the pressure they would have like wtf is hybe doing, its no hate to the girls cause they were simply not ready but thats hybe's fault for sending them into the deep ends with all these expectations of beating blackpink and twice
@@sh1nenkai258 Lsfm attended 7 universities invite last oct and all were positive review and even praised their live singing improvement.. A little too late though since damage has been done already by coachella performance cos HYBE is too stupid for overestimating them and sending them there first before universities for more experience..
i agree with people that hybe should treat all groups equally. But then its not the groups fault so how about hating on hybe rather than illit and lessarafim.
The dispute between HYBE and Min Hee-jin is causing a lot of issues: NewJeans’ comeback is delayed, LE SSERAFIM got tangled in debut rumors, and ILLIT’s debut concept is under fire. It’s unfortunate to see these groups affected by all the drama. This kind of drama can deeply affect the idols' mental health. It's crucial to place the blame where it belongs-on the company's policies and not on the idols or the groups themselves. These talented individuals have no control over the internal conflicts, and they support, not the weight of unfounded criticism. why hype favours, princess treatment don't add these type names in video title
This delusional airhead are proud of Coachella live disaster. I believe that nmixx had whale as light stick. In reality they are sound like a whale when they holding a live mic.
Girl bye hate on hybe and not lsrfm?? Lsrfm didnt do shit and ur js hating on them like what… hybe is the main villain of all this… if u think they still lipsync pls go watch their crazier recording behind which showcases their RAW VOCALS. And also check out their university performances….. its live and they sang more songs, so dont try to hate pls!! Thank you, next❤
@gcwongqrden9125 raw vocal and lesrfm don't mix well. They all got owned but their own song. Easy ain't easy after all. How delusional people can be. Gullible
Hard to support them when they are a product of the worst company, supporting them enables the company to treat them like trash force a minor to do choreography that is in no way acceptable for her age without acknowledging they are AWARE and want to sexualize their artist. You’re funding their mistreatment when they are. Under such a Messy company. After seeing some of the Hybe leaked documents, I believe HYBE as a company are all bad actors and bad people. The documents were absolutely insane and unhinged. I will campaign to make the day Hybe goes under has a massive celebration thrown for it, then the artists they had can find a company that isn’t a joke of the company and will probably be more successful. Hybe pushing them so hard made me hesitant to give them a chance and then the smart choreography, i was like IM OUT. I CANT SUPPORT THIS. I have NEVER heard 1 good thing about them……. I don’t even think that they are untalented, i think they aren’t given vocals in where they sing the most confidentially. Instead they have them sing a whole song in a range they aren’t nearly as comfortable in. It’s literally been proven how well one member sings opera and sakura sounded good in j pop. They had her sing differently from then, she clearly isn’t confident in it and the company PUSHES AND PUSHES them as a group when they themselves are not being led in a direction to help them. Hybe is why they get the hate they do. If they didn’t aggressively promote them so much. I promise people wouldn’t made nearly as big of a deal. Plus the documentary they put out. It almost seems like Hybe is trying to cause trouble for the girls to then use to exploit them and film them during moments that are just abhorrent to include, these were a short shot. They were LONG shots, the IV, the anxiety attack, crying and more they were all young women in a super vulnerable position. The company instead of HELPING FILM IT TO SHOW THE WORLD. They do not care about these girls 1 bit… FUCK HYBE AND EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE, I truly hope their current groups are able to get away from this dumpster fire of a company. Congratulations on being the biggest scumbags in k pop at least they are the best at that
And I will say I like Le sserafim but they aren’t my favorite and it’s a little bit of a bummer that they booted vocal powerhouse gfriend for performance forward Le sserafim
I hate the company but love Le Sserafim but I hate the fact that everyone is hating on Le Sserafim instead of the company. But I also think people forgot what that shitty company and fans did to GARAM! She deserves justice.
Bang Sihyuk created BTS, TXT, ENHYPEN, &TEAM, KATSEYE, ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM he has nothing to do with NewJeans. Just like NewJeans is only close to MHJ among other CEOs and higher ups these groups are not close to MHJ.
MHJ even worked with bts ' v' for his solo album n she is close with v ... bang sihyuk just seem to want credit from every groups.... even if he ignored nj he shouldn't have sabotage nj and their success.
Literally, why would I care about a group that is not mine? That’s like expecting everyone at school to know you and love you just because you won the football match. Not everyone cares about sports.
@@jrjejune where did u even heard this rumors!?.... the fact that it was hybe who downgraded NJ success and popularity in Tokyo dome which was even mention in court and k-news ... and even made false rumors and channels to make NJ look bad... like which company does that to their own idols ... international hybe stans need to stop using MHJ as a scrapgoat to hate and bully NJ.
Bang si-hyuk only goes to groups who he is close with so if he’s not close with others then he won’t go to them, bang si-hyuk didn’t have any part in making new jeans so why would he be close with them
I think Newjeans brought something so refreshing to the table that if they had promoted them enough, they would have had "The New Jeans " as a title that represents them, and Lesserafim is kinda not trained in vocals so please focus on that first HYBE instead of making documentary lol
Princess treatment and it’s just promotion. Y’all forget these are products from the company, they are meant to bring money so ofc they’re going to promote their groups. Not everything is a conspiration.
Honestly people are losing their common sense when it comes to anti-HYBE content. If New Jeans were being compliant, you think HYBE wouldn't be hard promoing them right now? If the girls are actively doing anti-HYPE stuff publicly, which they have been repeatedly doing, ofc they're going to be experiencing reduced promo/reduced favouritism. NJ were the favourites for a long, long time because of how popular they are. I'm pretty sure probably had a comeback lined up but it's been disrupted because of MHJ and if they didn't screw themselves over with aligning themselves so publicly to MHJ they'd be carrying on as normal. Ofc theyre not favourites if they're demanding HYBE, their parent company, the people who PAY THEM, publicly to reinstate a a former CEO who is actively trying to screw HYBE over? It's madness. And right now NJ are just bleeding money as HYBE foots the bill to pay for their daily living and activities as they scramble to get brand deals in during NJs worst time due to their uncooperative image. LSFM just keeping quiet and doing their job and HYBE are happy with them because they're bringing money in. I'm a fan of groups, not companies, but people seem to conveniently forget that when they blame LSFM for shit NJs have been constantly doing to themselves. It's so dumb.
@@atheistiumLook what you said is totally fake by HYBE or some stupid ARMY Imaging, the real truth is HYBE going bank off thus without money to pay for MHJ🎉🎉🎉
I think Two points to keep in mind are (regardless of all the mistreatment going on) 1) Le sserafim members are significantly older than newjeans or illit members (bar eunchae) 2) Le sserfim is Bang Sihyuk's group, the same way new jeans is MHJ's group... of course they are going to be closer
@@CutiePie-v9rthe same reason why he is not the ceo anymore. You can apply your own theory to MHJ. Why join a multilabel system if she only cares about NJNS?
its okay to dote on them ONLY if theyre the only GG on his company but nooo😢 im glad newjeans can fight with the aid of their former ceo but gfriend had nothing! even fromis 9 is neglected severely
Dear, no businesses in the world can exist without a competition. Name one item that you consume/use in your life that has no competition. Even in looking for jobs you compete against someone. It's the fact of life. Hybe has every right as a company to compete in the music market, in the same way that SM, JYP, etc. are doing. What's unacceptable is using devious ways to compete (as how Kakao groups are doing currently to bring down HYBE).
I'm happy people are waking up to how weird bang PD is in general. But also his weird obsession with this girl group like when everything first started happening with new jeans like I don't like MHJ but I found it so hypocritical the way that people talked about how she treated new jeans when he basically admitted to cheating this girl group the same way. Not only has he invited them to his place in LA to have dinner on more than one occasion and then after that news had came out he decided to invite his boy group Enhyphen to eat there too because it just seemed weird that he only ever had a girl group go there. But also the fact that he allegedly this is rumors cuz I can't seem to find where this came from but apparently in an interview he talked about how he's pretty close with this girl group and how he has a group chat with them the same way that MHJ has a group chat with the girls of new jeans and I was just like that's just so weird. It's like the things he would complain about or try to use to talk shit about that other woman and new jeans was so weird because it was hypocritical cuz it's like sir you basically admitted to or have shown that you have the same sort of bond or trying to create it with your other girl group. And then when people would get mad at them because I saw people who attend hate to them because they were like oh my God NJ & MHJ is the reason that Gfriend disbanded when that made no sense. Just for a to basically come out that he did that on purpose because he didn't want to group that he had no say so and that he didn't help create be like the global girl group. He let the fact that BTS was talented on their own he did nothing but bring them together and they garnish all that success because he happened to be lucky with finding seven individuals that worked really well together even though we know he has also tried to sabotage at least one or two of those members on purpose too which is wild. He wanted to create that same success with a girl group to have a boy group in girl group on top and he fucked it up. The girls of this group are very talented and they're good but that's like to become a BTS or blackpink you kind of have to have that initial draw in which new jeans had but because he had nothing to do with them he couldn't stand the idea of them being the next girl group or group from his record label to become more globalized and instead he ended up kind of low-key ruining this girl group not because they're not talented but it genuinely does gotten to the point where it feels like they do nothing but exploit them. I used to listen to this girl group I was a casual listener and then it kind of felt like the company went on this weird woe is me campaign where all they did was sit there and exploit the absolute fuck out of the insecurities of this poor girl group and certain members and then on top of that it was them just pushing them so hard when they clearly weren't prepared or ready for any of that. They have not sat there and given them the proper training in terms of stamina or being able to perform the songs and stuff that they give them live comfortably to sit there and push them as hard as they have been pushing them but then they have other groups who are able to do that boy groups and girl groups yes instead of them focusing on those groups and pushing them a little further a little harder they're not even remotely trying to do that and it's like the weirdest shit ever it's okay if you have favorites but like you should at least make sure that they're prepared and ready to take on the role that you want to give them not just throw them to the wolves
NEW JEANS WON " BILLBOARD MAGAZINE's GROUP OF THE YEAR " BUT THE BIG BOSS's TEACHERS PET GIRL GROUP LESSerthan DIDN'T AND THEY DEBUTED FIRST, THATS WHY ALL THE ---- AGAINST NEW JEANS, WITH BTS and NEW JEANS THE BEST OF BOTH GENDERS, BIG BOSS MAN SHOULD BE STRUTTING LIKE A ROOSTER/PEACOCK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET RID OF ONE, LESSerthan WILL NEVER BE NEW JEANS, BUT I LOVE MUSIC MYSELF, so does Billboard reason N J won
From a business perspective, I think it was a better strategy to simultaneously launch all three girl groups: fromis_9, NewJeans, and LE SSERAFIM. After assessing their market performance, he could then allocate more resources to the group that is performing the best. I mean he can't know which group can do better if he doesn't give them equal treatment if only hybe was smart enough he could push his 3 group and promote them well and after that he could choose which group is doing better in the mareket and manage more resources to that group but instead he was trying to push one group without rest which is risky they may not be accepted or incapable to do it globally like if plan A faild you gotta move or have plan B at least but he kept pushing le sserafim so much I think if he want to make group like blackpink or twice first he gotta make sure how and why did BP and twice made it internationally instead of trying to move on blindly like wheatear we hate yg and jyp at least they know how to move with tha market like they don't make anything special from any entertainment the key is just to make sure when to promote and how to like take black pink for example like they were promoting their first three to four years in asia which they started to gain more and more fan like especially in the big three market in asia, china japan and korea after thier huge succeed in which they entered the top 100 billboard with their song ddu du ddu du at number 55 they started chasing western market like even if they couldn't make it to the western at least they can relay on the asia fans or the big three market in asia That's my opinion thank you
So MHJ can be NJ "mother" but Source Music shouldn't treat their artists right.. what you'll want, bullying, harassment,,, WTF is wrong with netizens, Like what treatment do you'll want for idols. So the Hybe hate its artists narrative is not really true then. Wow.. every day, some new shot with Kookielit.
HYBE should have focused more on better vocal training for their Gruop instead of talking bad and Blackpink and Twice! Coachella was an ABSOLUTE disaster!
Dont cry if they are suddenly disband, toxic army company stan will not defend lsf, like they did to eunchae, her tv program replace by illit member 😅 toxic army said its okay, its normal dont blame hybe 😂
@@YaseminLoveÖmer Eunchae's show was connected to her Music show hosting position. She left that position and Minju took it over which is why the show also changed to Minju. But, sure, go off and pretend like it's some big conspiracy...
Every group and artist deserve equal respect from their company. No one should be favoured over the other. Artists are human beings who deserve common courtesy and to be treated respectfully.
Hybe do not manage artist and do not produce music. Hybe only publishing the music. Le sserafim's company is Source Music who manage and produce music for Le sserafim. Hybe owned Source Music, but Hybe CEO cannot interference Source Music in everyday live. Hybe interference Source Music in shareholder meeting. Just STUPID content creator who do not understand what a company is.
How is it Le sserafim's fault that other sub labels don't promote or treat their ggs decently 😭 mind you source music (le sserafim's label) is still a horrible label
Though Le sserefraim is a good girl group, it lacks something to make a breakthrough like black pink did. Even new jeans did outcompete very many groups in their debut period like Ive, G idle and could battle black pink in second but I don't think Le sserafim has ever done this. I really love this group a lot but if I was hybe, I would focus on new jeans instead. Seriously.
TBH, I love the girls, i genuinely believe they have nothing to do with the whole favoritism from their boss. Its unfair to hate on the girls when the even them have no say on anything.
Nothing surprising about Hybe favoring Le Sserafim. Companies promote money makers that are loyal to the company and speak favorably about the company in public. And nothing surprising about Hybe shelving New Jeans. Companies seek to rid themselves of disloyal employees that tarnish the Company's image in public. I love NewJeans, but you could see that Hybe's management would not tolerate what Hybe perceived as a complete betrayal of their trust. In short, Hybe is communicating with every one of their groups, saying there are rewards for being loyal, and there will be punishment for those who betray our trust.
i don’t think anyone can stay loyal while enduring unfair treatment. new jeans was considered a threat to BSH/HYBE after their successful debut. Because MHJ was credited by both NJ and the people alike for her fresh, unique concept with NJ and none mentioned BSH. NJ didn’t kickstart this whole ordeal. HYBE bring it upon themseves thinking they can just simply bully NJ.
I will forever hate Hybe, especially with how awful they treat Fromis_9. My girl Chaeyoung was literally crying because they had been in the dungeon for so long, and they made HER apologize for airing out her grievances.
Hybe is too busy worrying about other groups that they can't even take care of their own groups.
Yes but I love the artist.. what a shame that people at hybe are just bad
blame Pledis for that.
that is so horrible😭 I bet the could have been bigger if hybe treated them better...
poor girls
lmao blame pledis for that , hybe don't manage sub labels decisions on comebacks , if seventeen weren't producing their own music they would have been neglected too
Hate the company
Love the groups
Real
same
@@37-Sports Defending hybe is toxic behaviour
HYBE is literal trash
When company's earning got down, it affects artists. BTS income has down compare to last year Now hybe is planning to promote other groups and businesses through new groups. It has planned not to focus on BTS because BTS is getting old and after some years they will not earn that much.
Remember, HYBE killed GFRIEND after they bought Source Music. Removing the tittle HYBE first girl group from GFRIEND.
It's so sad, I was looking forward to seeing how hybe would treat GFriend.
I miss gfriends . But I still support members viviz doing good too . Source music got greedy they forget because of gfriends they earn alot money
That's not true. I'm sure You forgot fromis_9. Pledis was also acquired by Hybe. Then technically made fromis_9 as the 1st Hybe girl group after GFriend disbandment. MHJ is the reason and is responsible for ruining Source Music's finances, which led to GFriend's disbandment. Read the whole story on the Dispatch investigation report.
@@patakaidFromis_9 was there but they weren't as popular and influential as gfriend so they never saw them as threat, and they are also mistreated regardless
@@casiahi7864 that's also not true.
In a multi-label system, there is no direct competition between groups under Hybe subsidiaries. Each of them has aimed at a different market. Nobody is threatening anybody.
Remember, as the sole publisher of all groups and the owner of all label companies, Hybe is responsible for sales, promotion, distribution, and media publication.
And Hybe has nothing to do with fromis_9 lack of activity since all creative and music production is Pledis responsible. The reason is that fromis_9 was managed by three different agencies.
Read the timelines.
At the time Hybe acquired Pledis in 2020, fromis_9 was managed by Off The Record, a subsidiary of CJ ENM, which manages fromis_9 and IZ*ONE. With the support of Hybe as the new owner, Pledis took over fromis_9 management a year later in 2021. But the problem is Jang Gyuri still had an original contract with CJ ENM that lasted for a year more. This then led to her departure in 2022 to pursue an acting career.
Before Gyuri's departure, Hybe and Pledis managed to change fromis_9 concept to differentiate the market. This led them to the next level of success with the first win on a music show for the Talk and Talk special single, 4 years after debut.
Every comeback, fromis_9 breaks their records and sales. DM and Stay This Way in 2022, Love Me Back in 2023, and the latest Supersonic 2024 have achieved top-ranked charts. This all was Hybe's work, not a mistreatment.
Read the data and facts, not knetz opinions, rumors, or fans' theories.
" HYBE favors Le sserafim"
Ga-ram : 😑 seriously they kicked me out and used me for popularity 🤬
this all makes sense now like Garam has been proved innocent
Hybe literally tried their best to keep her in the groups and they protected them
@@SophieJadeLane17 U are still in your bubble world get out!!! The leaked documents says that they used garam instead of helping her 🤬🤬 The Le sserafim members wanted her to be in the group and they all supported her but HYBE kicked her out without giving her a chance to tell about her innocence
@@flaxsikare_forblinkWell it’s not like they initially wanted to kick her out of the group. Once the accusations started kicking in, they saw that as an opportunity to increase LE SSERAFIM’s popularity, and in fact, it worked. Garam’s situation made the group more famous.
@@bootao190yearsago7Exactly
Blackpink & Twice to Hybe: you can steal the recipe but the taste won't be the same.
2NE1 & SNSD in the back of the room...
@@ike7484 Lmfao 😭🙏🏻
Lsf leave the group
Yeah. I love le sserafim, I enjoy their music a lot, but Blackpink have a totally different stage presence. Maybe in a couple of years LS might be more ready.
@@SH-bm8yp did you went at some concert of bp? there's no stage presence and Jennie even playback guitar playing, it's a shame and disrespectful to their fans. many people who went to bp concerts recently were very angry and upset and disappoint over bp. lsf is on other level of stage presence, they have passion and enjoy performing, bp doesn't.
I am bunnies and fearnot and I hate this treatment. I think that every group should be treated equally.
Love NewJeans, LE SSERAFIM and other groups.
Hate the company and its treatment.
So know you said you areboth fans......when ITS the problem with newjeans at April or September.....are youbsaid you love them both????😂😂😂 Don't be pussyyyy .....you are not love newjeans kiddos
Exactly. Artists should not have to suffer because of the unprofessionalism of a company. It's not fair on artists who just want to be free to make music and perform.
AGREE.
What are you talking about? How are you a bunny and not know nj is currently recording an album?
@@zackzzz3513they never said that they didn’t know. They didn’t even mention the new album so stop assuming.
they've made it clear from the beginning they wanted le sserafim to be the next blackpink. Anytime hybe is mentioned in a variety show they only add clips of BTS and Le sserafim when introducing hybe artists like newjeans isn't the most popular girl group under hybe surpassing le sserafim globally AND domestically.... they literally pushed their debut ahead of newjeans last minute just so they can get pushed out first
that would never happened they just different
But they can never . They cant even beat babymonster now.
@Anusha-s3g lmao please be so fr.
@@Nush-b2qalso no one was talking about babymonster
@@Nush-b2q you mean they cant beat aespa,(┬┬﹏┬┬) le sserafim is a good group but not blackpink levels
The worst is using garam for group popularity and then kicking her out
It’s bcuz of the fans hating garam so much that’s why hybe kick her I don’t think hybe using garam
@@Svt_caratt Leaked documents prove otherwise, exposing that they used the Garam controversy to boost the popularity of Le Seraphim
@Svt_caratt she clearly mention the proof herself that she is not guilty after a alot damage was already done and even collect student signatures for proof that she helped someone who was bullied ....but the most important hybe didn't even post that proof and just ignored her then she post that herself
the worst thing is kpop being hypocrite. abusing her online but using her to drag the group
@@jrjejune right
Bang sihyuk obsessed with lessarafim and hates Newjeans…
true
And i find disturbing that their favorite member is eunchae, to the point of make her host for kpop shows and also gave her own show eunchae diary according to their leaked documents so Everybody SEE her in good eyes as a the cutest maknae
@ yeah that’s what they were aiming for
It’s also crazy to me that people support Le Sserafim and Bang Si Hyuk’s relationship and hates MHJ and NewJeans, if you support one, you should support the other because it’s basically the same thing. This is just equally as weird.
@right
Then theres Fromis in a Hybe dungeon
i sometimes forget they even exist like wtf, give my girls some songs 😭
@@codhelenhelisammeee😭😭
From is is doing really good in Korea recently but internationally not so much I think
@@a.c.6857yeah but they only got a comeback because they went live on weverse and voiced their frustation with how they arent getting anything. Thats what the commentor is referring to
the fans should put more effort in supporting their comeback... whining for their own fault
New Jeans had a better chance of being the next big gg
Much better… they were well on their way until everything that happened this year. Such a shame.
lol still the top gg and dominating commercials whereas other Hybe ggs can’t even do that with all the payola
but Hybe ruined them for Illit...next big flop group from HYBE (illit)
NewJeans after all that shi they went through, still standing ...love them
And you’re about to get the next knuckle sandwich on your face dumbass FUCk you
absolutely.. It will never make sense to me. I understand having lsf first and planning to make them the biggest, but why on earth would they ruin the most popular group they have, after BTS. Likeeeeee from all perspectives, its so dumb...
I have a feeling if HYBE keeps low balling New Jeans it’s gonna backfire on Le Sserafim. SMH
no. haters are always dragging the girls.
Definitely is
it already backfired and bunnies are constantly attacking them
its futile though as HYBE dont care about NJ anyway and rather focus on ILLIT or Katseye
Lol f leave the building easy
It's already backfiring since the Coachella situation. I feel bad for them, but HYBE by being greedy they're destroying their groups.
lol I like how he expose himself by how belift sexualizing newjeans genre but not sexualizing le sseraafim while twerking with a minor eunchae
Ikr, Enchae be dancing on those sexual choreographies meanwhile they kept blaming MHJ for debuting NewJeans. Hybe stans 😆🤡
The audacity to say that after making Enchae dance in those choreographies 🤌🤐😆
THANK YOU. The SMART CHOREOGRAPHY is SOOO INAPPROPRIATE. I didn’t know there was a minor in the group. Threw up when i found out they made a minor do that. I still refuse to watch that choreography for exploiting and sexualizing Eunchae….
@@mahabubajannathashi1199Eunchae didn’t deserve this.. FUCK HYBE. fucking creeps
Hybe stans : 👨🦯👨🦯👨🦯👨🦯👨🦯
Mr bang replied to their text within minutes how kind of him 😂
Meanwhile ignored every time Newjeans greeted him and his excuse for that was lame💀
Once
@ no as far as I remember it was mor then once the girls felt embarrassed
@@Danielle_bunny he only ignored Hanni once and why would LSF feel embarrassed whe they were the ones sending the messages in the first place.
@Danielle_bunny she eve mentioned it again in that NA fan meeting, don't make up false scenarios
@ no Hanni ignored incident was by a manger and I meant “girls=Newjeans” felt embarrassed
We literally know why. You’ve said it yourself. The whole fight with MHJ? He wanted to prove so badly that whatever group mhj was so sure would go big WOULDNT go big, and that his girl group would. So obviously he’s gonna go above and beyond for them. He doesn’t like NewJeans because they proved him wrong and MHJ right.
Them being Hybe’s “first girl group” is just a cover, because NewJeans was supposed to debut first right?
Why are we still talking about this. You’ve already mentioned enough points for me to even make this conclusion.
Content maker needing content.
I agree with you though. It's just BSH vs MHJ. Funny thing is that rivalries are healthy. They don't need controversy, just keep promoting both and the consumers will establish that on their own.
MHJ using NJ and their parents as shield. Just felt so bad for them.
it's pointless content. but the content creator is making money by using others as clout
@@say5683 This just assumes that MHJ is malicious in her actions.
Here is a different perspective. MHJ found a group of talented youngsters that she believes in. She decided to do all that she can so this group can accomplish their dreams. She felt like upper management is no longer acting in the best interest of her group and decided that doing questionable acts is worth it for the good of the group.
Misguided? Maybe. Malicious and selfish? No. Things aren't just black and white.
@@live_honestly_1028-q3g you are right it’s not black and white but it’s still malicious and selfish
HYBE buried GFRIEND, fromis_9, and erase the history of PLEDIS ENTERTAINMENT and former artists/idols/music. What are they doing now burying New Jeans members but owning the group's name NJ/New Jeans copyrights because they own ADOR
Le Sserafim trying to compete against BlackPink is a joke. They can't even beat Aespa let alone Twice.
Its not le sserafim trying to compete with them. Remember all this drama is because of hybe we should just keep sending love to new jeans and le sserafim ❤
you are the only joke here
You namedropped 3 groups just to prove your point 🤡
can u guys just hate on hybe without hating le sserafim. They’re on the same level as aespa based on popularity. But they can never beat bp or twice.
Hate on Hybe not le sserafim
@@GBArmyNation Exactly
Elevating them to higher heights.....but you STILL can't get them a VOCAL COACH.......wow.
They already improved maybe don’t look at the easy era but look now
The hate train has already gone.... You should stop being a millennial and look at the present! They have improved sm and just seeing u have saw 15 sec clips of their coachella performance and 1-2 encores doesn't means they were always bad at vocals!
@lovecapri823 girllllll ..... you're on the wrong comment thread. Trust me 😭😭😭
Never paid attention to them after hybe used and kicked garam out .and what hybe is doing to new jeans if they disband I will not support any hybe group in the future.
SAME
What happened to Garam?
Hate the company not the groups
garam was acused of bullying two weeks after debuting and was put in a hiatus and about a month later hybe kicked her out cuz apparently she was the bully. she later posted on her friend's insta (with prove) that she only verbally cussed at a student who spread n4ked and bikini photos of her classmates around. so she was basically standing up for her friends but was called the bully and hybe knew about her past but still let her join the group only to kick her out a month later. fans suspect hybe had used this to garner attention from public and so more people could notice lesserafim. anyways, garam is now in collage studying acting. lets cheer her on.
Same here
Lessarifim will not achieve which Newjeans achieved in just 2 years even if Newjeans disband. No one literally no one can create such a fabulous and fresh concept like min hee jin did to create Newjeans
🎉Really
exactly. people can hate mhj all they want but you can't deny she had made so many popular groups including newjeans.
Agreed
Fr
The only reason why le sserafim cant reach the amount of fame like new jeans and outer groups are because of hybe they are breaking there own groups and as a fearnot they did not deserve this and yes new jeans fromis and gfreind to but its just hard to see my favorite group being pulled down by hybe themselves
Bang shi hyk didn't learn his lesson from his past of debuting girl groups.
Yes don't debut girl groups.They are troublesome 😮
I love le sserafim and their energy and their songs.....le girls are just my style ❤ they are working hard and working hard on the right thing that is their job as idols so I will support them ❤
Bang PD even texts with Eunchae. She admitted it during her star diary with some of the members of NMIXX and you could tell the Nmixx girlies were shocked that they had that level of relationship with such a high up senior in the company. Eunchae naively was like "you mean you don't text with JYP? something to that extent. So yeah, he definitely does favor them.
But if someone points out that the same Dynamics with New Jeans and MHJ is wrong then they're the bad guy ? And don't even bring in the "they're both women" angle coz she's literally had pics of Nearly naked underage girls and has this creepy obsession with minors . Even aired her private chats with the girls just for public support but ofc nobody budges ( and I'm not BSH bootlicker both these cr33ps need to stay away from these groups)
Bang specifically scouted for sakura and chaewon after izone disbandment
He is also involved on ALL their songs and one of their chief producer
Lsfm is officially and literally BangPD GG, so of course he favors them
You Fearnots will die on that Lesserafim hill wont ya? Youre clearly proving the point of the video. that he favors them. Im pointing out that other groups, such as NMIXX think it's unusual because it is. MOST CEOS have some level of involvement when it comes to recruiting talent. JYP does too, im not here to debate you guys, im pointing out info thats readily available on the internet.
@bubblessera you guys are hilarious. Sure, keep telling yourself that!
It's weird that Nmixx was shocked by it since Itzy and Twice have both said that they text with JYP and he sometimes takes them out to dinner and stuff. They even joke around with him. And, all JYP idols are known for clowning on JYP any chance they get. Maybe it's because JYP wasn't involved with Nmixx like he was with the more senior groups. I don't know if that's the case or not but, since it's said that he is pretty much retired from the business side of JYPE now, it would make sense.
Isn't New Jeans getting more fancy brand deal for each individual even before debut while non of LSFM during that time have a Gucci or Loius Voitton deal...
I personally love Le sserafim but personally I feel like New Jeans is that sort of group for whom it’s very natural to top everything. Le sserafim is good but New jeans has more of that potential.
aren't you bored to see the same concept for every comeback?
@jrjejune Most of the groups lead with one concepts only. Plus NewJeans literally has amazing stories to connect with their Music videos. I remember gushing over every Music Video. In fact they have different instrumentals and they put out stuff which is unexpected.
The they should have no reason to stay ?
Why squatting on hybe building ?
get out find other company whos willing to suport that potential
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 It is pretty expensive for another company to take all members of the group. Either they have to split like the Gfriend members did or be with the company. There’s one more way, that they go independent but looking at the situation they are highly dependent on their company.
@@jrjejune literly they stick to one concept but the style changes thats what most groups do, like blackpink and aespa and lesserfim and straykids dont act as if newjeans are boring when many groups do the same
promoting them to coachella was so embarassing
god don't even remind me 😧
Yeahh
Le-sserafim is great but they could have done better...i don't know why hybe is soo jealous of other groups....❤ they all deserve love but hybe and sm is born as a disappointment. Along with min hee jin.
No it wasn't.. Err
Fr
New Jeans was named as ONE of TIME magazine most INSPIRING women!!!!
Which one?
The name or the girls?
You said woman
And woman mean one
If you want to talk about NewJeans as a whole you say “one of the Time magazines most inspiring group” or “womens”
UGH I want to like this comment like a hundred timess!!
I love it how fans from both Le Sserafim and New Jeans are fighting and acting like the girls themselves are the problem when in reality it’s their company’s fault. I never participate in these fans wars because all these girls are literally friends and wouldn’t consider any of the people participating in these fan wars actual fans of either group, how about we stop comparing groups to each other and just support them and if you don’t like a certain group for whatever reason that’s fine don’t listen to them
lol but you kept forgetting that when it was about Newjeans 😆😆🥴
Eh. Le sserafim deserves criticism, their not very talented. All they can do is dance
@@Viewerforthey're talented for able to dance
@@IsabeleThornsI’ve never said anything bad about newjeans I don’t think they’re as good as their fans make them out to be but you’re acting like I completely agree with everything that’s been happening to them in this whole hybe drama which I don’t the fact Hanni had to speak out at the audit proves that there’s something wrong with how things are being ran currently but New Jeans fans bringing Le Sserafim into this is just useless and doesn’t improve New Jeans situation at all it just makes them look worse (their fans not the girls themselves)
@@ViewerforYou’re just wrong and people like you have been proven wrong so many times it’s crazy I guarantee your reply if there’s one is gonna be something to do with Coachella but anyone with even a half developed brain knows that performance was not nearly as bad as it was made out to be was it their best no but week 2 especially is a solid at least 8 out of 10 and for the love of god if you reply I don’t wanna see the word backtrack because I hate to break it you everyone single group including your fav uses one
I mean, le sserafim was a group to be debuted on hybe not in a subdiary (souce music). The group was designed, planned and produced by BSH, even the producers of BTS are the same as those of Le sserafim. If you stop to notice the style, genres, diversity and production of le sserafim it's similar to bts (for toxic fans, I'm not comparing it). It is the group style produced by BSH. The musical genres are stronger, message in the songs, girl power vibe mixed with a funny concept. It's BSH's style, the group is produced by him, I think that's where the attention and favoritism comes from. But it does not justify reducing the other groups (they are managed by other producers and subsidiaries)
Hybe forgot to pick talent that could sing
Without talent u can always work it out but nothing could fix old pants snkey behavior two oldest lsf member survive entertainment industry cos they had right attitude and professionalism which nver gonna happen if their personality junked like old pants
The hate train has already gone.... You should stop being a millennial and look at the present! They have improved sm and just seeing u have saw 15 sec clips of their coachella performance and 1-2 encores doesn't means they were always bad at vocals!
@@lovecapri823Do you think they improved??? I would love to see videos of them singing. Can you attach links of their performances where they actually sang live without lip syncing or anything that made you say that they've improved??
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 tell me you have never watched the newjeans members without telling me.
newjeans members are all literal angels, not fake like most idols, they actually stand up for themselves and others.
@@Zoom03352 lol said the idol whos ignored illit bow several times and admitting crying on national anssembly is pure performance 🤡
Good riddance they finally asking to get out from building so whatever take ur angel or destruction far from hybe 🫰🏻
I have never understood why the hate is directed at the groups and not the company. The girls don't have the power or control over the decisions made by their management
Why did le sserafim get hate did they ask to give them princess treatment
Coz toxic army and toxic fearnot always being toxic to others group
@YaseminLoveÖmer all groups toxic fans hate other groups
@@kpopsthetic1 its so different, they are toxic hybe stan, toxic fans in kpop only support their fav artist, not company
@@kpopsthetic1 for example, toxic army company stan always use bts especially taehyung to defend that company and bangshiyuk
@@YaseminLoveÖmer ik it's true but I'm not talking about that
So What is Le sserafim’s fault? They just work hard. Just because they were treated good by their company.. they deserve to be hated?
Who said that???
No one said that lmao
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@@threesetsoflatpulldownscheck the comments
yea like why did hybe started hating newjeans out of the blue when he spent so much on their debut. and why he love illit and lesserafim so much. we still dont know the real reason behind this whole drama
What? Ofc we know why.
It’s because Bang Si-hyuk was not the responsible for creating NJ - but for Lesserafim.
NJ was created through a sub label and mainly through Min Hee-jin.
Just another greedy man.
Maybe he has secret daughters and they are in lesserafim and illit 😂 Not serious, just I think sometimes in a funny way
Because bang shi hyuk directed lsf and illit but didn't have any involvement with NJ...
@@su_soek why was my answer deleted? I just said what other commenters are writing. That it’s because bang wasn’t responsible for creating NewJeans but for Lesserafim and Illit.
@@bunnygirlsenpai4520then why did he create this stupid multi label system when he is so insecure about his sublabels creating better groups 🤡😆
he was involved with le sserafim since their debut in writing songs , in their concept etc also Lesserafim was about to debut in bighit but he thought BTS fan will be jealous and hate le sserafim that's why he made them debut under source music in other words he made lesserafim that's why he favour them more and wants them to gain top position
lesserafim was debuted under source music cause mhj and NJ left source music in debt after using somu's resources. lesserafim was debuted to help somu paid NJ and mhj shit
Bunnies dont care about facts, they'll continue to hate especially lsfm
They thought everything is a conspiracy and everything is against new jeans
They only know min hee jin is the sole creator of new jeans but little did they know "250" the composer of hype boy, ditto and super shy is under HYBE..
2.46 is just a rumor cuz Bang si hyuk seems friendly to Enhypen and Seventeen
Le Sserafim should be treated well. They and their company are not trying to actively destroy HYBE. Le Sserafim has never said that they will not do their job. I love how this channel he talking about the leaked HYBE documents when we all know it was done by MJH.
just say you are hype stand and that pig supporter. like if anything bad haven't to that company it's mhj fault. that company deserve what is happening to them right now.that company has been done so many bad things to so many idols not just nj
Everything was done by MHJ.
Bro you are delusional asf 😪get therapy...
Look what you said is totally fake by HYBE or some stupid ARMY Imaging, the real truth is HYBE going bank off thus without money to pay for MHJ🎉🎉🎉
Hybe asslicker spotted
Hyeb Stan I see you 🤡🤣🤣
8.02 cuz blinks were hating and spreading rumors on Le sserafim before they even went on Coachella
Tbh I feel like everyone can see LSF are not treated as badly as NJ and F9 for example (as for ILT they are very much new so for now Idrk).
Anyway as always it's those sh*tty companies fault not the idols. BIG HIT was kinda okay but HYBE is demonic the way SM is demonic which is a lot ! (I consider myself an SM artists fan but I hate this f*cked up company with my soul.)
oh yeah how much I hate sm after their disband fx. sj members are also rude and act high in front other artists
they couldn't even care about their artists mental health and well being. look at sulli and jonghyun.
@@jrjejune fx's career as a group was kinda tragic :'') it was 50% sm and 50% everything else. Sm did the bare minimum for them at best but the later half of their career was screwed over by timing, politics and fandom nature.
8.06 They were just having fun . they were dancing hard and singing unlike blackpink using a little back track then sing
Next blackpink or twice funniest shit I heard all day lol haha 🤣
@ lying about what they will never be blackpink or twice. Stop comparing them to other girl groups. So you stop lying
I KNOW, oh my god TOO FUNNY
Hate company not idols
This is the realest comment if seen
And yet some people say this is all lsrfms fault
Yet the same people saying this kept hating on NewJeans 😆😆
@@mahabubajannathashi1199 hate the fans not idols 🤣😅😂
@@vivianshu5915
Yet ur hating on LSFRM ironic ?
Out of arrogance they made Le Sserafim flop and out of arrogance they want to make New Jeans flop😡😡😡
isn't NJ also floo? their album sell in Japan isn't much as expected. besides mhj told lies about their sales
@@jrjejune i think he is refering to flop coachella peformance, that shit was horrid
@@jrjejune you're right, that's what i say: NJ are now boycotted by Hybe and have bad sales; i'm not against NJ or Le serafim, i love both groups because i'm not a stan of a single group, i listen to everything, i'm angry because Hybe is ruining his groups and wasting the talent of the girls
Guess who would have killed it at Coachella….New Jeans! ..hybe is dumb af …lessrfim is cool visually but their rock vibes suck and so do their live vocals
real audiences said lesserafim ate during Coachella
just because lesserafim have bad vocals doesnt mean new jeans is good 🤡
new jeans have WORSE vocals than lessera 😆they are worse dancers too
hard carried by their songs
It honestly a little weird that he’s THAT involved with them… but maybe thats just me
Mind you, Lesserafim already have an album and Japanese release only a year after debut but NewJeans only got two singles and 2 EP in two years that leaves me an unfairness of discography by both groups
le sserafim is an amazing group with a lot of potential and they have great talent BUT the fact that hybe wants them to like BLACKPINK and TWICE is just stupid and dumb......don't get me wrong I love LE SSERAFIM but come on BLACKPINK has been THE MOST POPULAR girl group IN the history of Groups........... and TWICE might not be able to attract attention
but they still ROCK
Being ambitious is the only way you achieve anything.
Man, bang si hyuk is just liek someone who gets tired of playing with a toy and wants a new one as soon as possible. I feel bad for all groups that are under hybe’s control
love Lesserafin btw ... i can't believe this trend....were all the hybe stans are hating on NJ using MHJ as a scrapgoat to hate them makes no sense.
Ifkr! And now defending Lesseraphim when they did the same with Newjeans 😂
They decide to stay with shaman then why refuse to leave
@@releasemindssecondlast1802 lol don’t give me the shaman excuse, even Bang shi hyuk might have gone to a shaman aswell, considering how he f**ks around with Streamers half his age 🥴
@@CutiePie-v9r lol then why leeching on company he build go out simple u can fight ur contract after that instead they squatting on hybe facilities like beggar
@ lol The Profits NewJeans made for Hybe is greater than all their girl groups combined, Hybe should be grateful to them instead considering they’re one of the top artist in the Nation 🙄
Bang Sihyunk is Creepy
Yeah people should not forget that under Bang, he had 15, 17 yo MINORS do weird choreo and he was super involved with LSFM and for their debut had that weird humping choreo... again with a minor. When I think about what Bang has said through Hybe, I just think "every accusation is a confession" and in this case, it's all that nonsense people keep bringing up about Min Hee Jin when they're not considering all the gross things Bang Si Hyuk has done from the beginning.
Of course they are his favorite like Eunchae literally has HER OWN SHOW!!💀💀
He really went down from one of the most locable CEO to Dislike one. Its kinda creepy how the company is so into Le Serrafim
The tragedy for me is it's come down to LeSserafim vs New Jeans vs Illit...i love all three. But the battle is mainly in the fan pool as opposed to between the groups
Why would you like illit? Illits the reason for this mess. They aren’t even talented. And why tf do they have a song named “pimple” in their album?
why would you hate illit when mhj is the cause of this mess? @@Viewerfor
@@jrjejune + hybe
3.59 yes lesserafim holds uniqe things cuz they worked hard to get it(no hate towards nj)
source music agency is professional, not in high demand and has problems with hybe, that's why hybe supports Le Sserafim, not only Le Sserafim, illit is also given a lot of attention, new jeans also gets attention, just because min heejin ruined hybe's good name, it's not wrong that some of the staff from the agency whose name was ruined by min heejin (bitlab) also don't like new jeans, hybe actually doesn't differentiate between its girl group idols, please don't make slanderous news about Le Sserafim by lifting it from Korean haters news or hatter comments. enough don't hates again to Le Sserafim, they have suffered enough from haters' comments, they work hard and talented too
5.02 : actually they are the next bp or 2ice bcz they amount of popularity and hate, performance are like bo and 2ice
I hope i don't see hate comments towards lesserafim here
no most of r just talking about how much of a shitty company hybe is
@@codhelenhelisome are supporting hybe too by saying bad things about new jeans and they are losing against us.
welp we cant control others but all i know is hybe made a huge misjudgment of le sserafim's readiness for coachella or hybe is delusional thinking they can peform 300% better just cause the event is called coachella forgetting all the pressure they would have
like wtf is hybe doing, its no hate to the girls cause they were simply not ready but thats hybe's fault for sending them into the deep ends with all these expectations of beating blackpink and twice
@@sh1nenkai258 Lsfm attended 7 universities invite last oct and all were positive review and even praised their live singing improvement..
A little too late though since damage has been done already by coachella performance cos HYBE is too stupid for overestimating them and sending them there first before universities for more experience..
Yess it's not their fault and hybe should be called out for this
they are so young for all of that exposure i hope they get a rest bc this is so sad
by the way is very clear know tha lesserfim is hype and bang sihyuk Princess. and that man is just jealous with mhj and nj Success
Hate on Hybe not the group
i agree with people that hybe should treat all groups equally. But then its not the groups fault so how about hating on hybe rather than illit and lessarafim.
The dispute between HYBE and Min Hee-jin is causing a lot of issues: NewJeans’ comeback is delayed, LE SSERAFIM got tangled in debut rumors, and ILLIT’s debut concept is under fire. It’s unfortunate to see these groups affected by all the drama. This kind of drama can deeply affect the idols' mental health. It's crucial to place the blame where it belongs-on the company's policies and not on the idols or the groups themselves. These talented individuals have no control over the internal conflicts, and they support, not the weight of unfounded criticism. why hype favours, princess treatment don't add these type names in video title
Very well said one of the sane comments i have seen here ...
They ain princesses. They are queens
Queens of lipsyncing.
bro hate on hybe without hating ssera. Le sserafim did nothign here. Hybe is just trash. Support le sserafim newjeans illit and all other hybe groups
This delusional airhead are proud of Coachella live disaster. I believe that nmixx had whale as light stick. In reality they are sound like a whale when they holding a live mic.
Girl bye hate on hybe and not lsrfm?? Lsrfm didnt do shit and ur js hating on them like what… hybe is the main villain of all this… if u think they still lipsync pls go watch their crazier recording behind which showcases their RAW VOCALS. And also check out their university performances….. its live and they sang more songs, so dont try to hate pls!! Thank you, next❤
@@gcwongqrden9125 exactly. Le sserafim can sing really well but people are just too hateful to admit it.
@gcwongqrden9125 raw vocal and lesrfm don't mix well. They all got owned but their own song. Easy ain't easy after all. How delusional people can be. Gullible
hybe fought for garam till the end and even won it for her , but yall were hating her too much that she was never gonna be back
I love lesserafim no matter what !
Same
Hard to support them when they are a product of the worst company, supporting them enables the company to treat them like trash force a minor to do choreography that is in no way acceptable for her age without acknowledging they are AWARE and want to sexualize their artist. You’re funding their mistreatment when they are. Under such a Messy company.
After seeing some of the Hybe leaked documents, I believe HYBE as a company are all bad actors and bad people. The documents were absolutely insane and unhinged. I will campaign to make the day Hybe goes under has a massive celebration thrown for it, then the artists they had can find a company that isn’t a joke of the company and will probably be more successful. Hybe pushing them so hard made me hesitant to give them a chance and then the smart choreography, i was like IM OUT. I CANT SUPPORT THIS. I have NEVER heard 1 good thing about them…….
I don’t even think that they are untalented, i think they aren’t given vocals in where they sing the most confidentially. Instead they have them sing a whole song in a range they aren’t nearly as comfortable in. It’s literally been proven how well one member sings opera and sakura sounded good in j pop. They had her sing differently from then, she clearly isn’t confident in it and the company PUSHES AND PUSHES them as a group when they themselves are not being led in a direction to help them. Hybe is why they get the hate they do. If they didn’t aggressively promote them so much. I promise people wouldn’t made nearly as big of a deal. Plus the documentary they put out. It almost seems like Hybe is trying to cause trouble for the girls to then use to exploit them and film them during moments that are just abhorrent to include, these were a short shot. They were LONG shots, the IV, the anxiety attack, crying and more they were all young women in a super vulnerable position. The company instead of HELPING FILM IT TO SHOW THE WORLD. They do not care about these girls 1 bit…
FUCK HYBE AND EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE, I truly hope their current groups are able to get away from this dumpster fire of a company. Congratulations on being the biggest scumbags in k pop at least they are the best at that
Me too
same! and always will ❤
And I will say I like Le sserafim but they aren’t my favorite and it’s a little bit of a bummer that they booted vocal powerhouse gfriend for performance forward Le sserafim
I hate the company but love Le Sserafim but I hate the fact that everyone is hating on Le Sserafim instead of the company. But I also think people forgot what that shitty company and fans did to GARAM! She deserves justice.
I feel bad for new jeans fans
Hybe will face a downfall for neglecting the talent of newjeans
Bang Sihyuk created BTS, TXT, ENHYPEN, &TEAM, KATSEYE, ILLIT and LE SSERAFIM he has nothing to do with NewJeans. Just like NewJeans is only close to MHJ among other CEOs and higher ups these groups are not close to MHJ.
MHJ even worked with bts ' v' for his solo album n she is close with v ... bang sihyuk just seem to want credit from every groups.... even if he ignored nj he shouldn't have sabotage nj and their success.
Literally, why would I care about a group that is not mine? That’s like expecting everyone at school to know you and love you just because you won the football match. Not everyone cares about sports.
@@charumag9814mhj isn't even give credit to other crews for v solo works. look at v music videos and look at the video description.
@@charumag9814mhj told lies about NJ album sales in Japan
@@jrjejune where did u even heard this rumors!?.... the fact that it was hybe who downgraded NJ success and popularity in Tokyo dome which was even mention in court and k-news ... and even made false rumors and channels to make NJ look bad... like which company does that to their own idols ... international hybe stans need to stop using MHJ as a scrapgoat to hate and bully NJ.
NGL, between the two its NJ who got more local, international and luxury endorsements compared with LS.
Yess
Bang si-hyuk only goes to groups who he is close with so if he’s not close with others then he won’t go to them, bang si-hyuk didn’t have any part in making new jeans so why would he be close with them
I think Newjeans brought something so refreshing to the table that if they had promoted them enough, they would have had "The New Jeans " as a title that represents them, and Lesserafim is kinda not trained in vocals so please focus on that first HYBE instead of making documentary lol
Whenever there is controversy in kpop world
Kookielit : content! Content ! Content!!😂😂
Most biased
Incase of HYBE ..
SHE BECOME MHJ LAP DOG
Princess treatment and it’s just promotion.
Y’all forget these are products from the company, they are meant to bring money so ofc they’re going to promote their groups.
Not everything is a conspiration.
Be fr like Lesserafim does recieves favouritism.. compared to other girl groups
@@_lajongborang_4302 if it makes you sleep at night
ok and where is this treament for newjeans and fromis9. quit being stupid and just admit hybe favours them
Honestly people are losing their common sense when it comes to anti-HYBE content.
If New Jeans were being compliant, you think HYBE wouldn't be hard promoing them right now? If the girls are actively doing anti-HYPE stuff publicly, which they have been repeatedly doing, ofc they're going to be experiencing reduced promo/reduced favouritism. NJ were the favourites for a long, long time because of how popular they are.
I'm pretty sure probably had a comeback lined up but it's been disrupted because of MHJ and if they didn't screw themselves over with aligning themselves so publicly to MHJ they'd be carrying on as normal. Ofc theyre not favourites if they're demanding HYBE, their parent company, the people who PAY THEM, publicly to reinstate a a former CEO who is actively trying to screw HYBE over? It's madness. And right now NJ are just bleeding money as HYBE foots the bill to pay for their daily living and activities as they scramble to get brand deals in during NJs worst time due to their uncooperative image.
LSFM just keeping quiet and doing their job and HYBE are happy with them because they're bringing money in.
I'm a fan of groups, not companies, but people seem to conveniently forget that when they blame LSFM for shit NJs have been constantly doing to themselves. It's so dumb.
@@atheistiumLook what you said is totally fake by HYBE or some stupid ARMY Imaging, the real truth is HYBE going bank off thus without money to pay for MHJ🎉🎉🎉
I think Two points to keep in mind are (regardless of all the mistreatment going on) 1) Le sserafim members are significantly older than newjeans or illit members (bar eunchae) 2) Le sserfim is Bang Sihyuk's group, the same way new jeans is MHJ's group... of course they are going to be closer
Why why did he create the stupid Multi Label system if he is so bothered by the success of his Sub label’s group lmfao 🤣😆
@@CutiePie-v9rthe same reason why he is not the ceo anymore. You can apply your own theory to MHJ. Why join a multilabel system if she only cares about NJNS?
@@CutiePie-v9rcause mhj and NJ almost make source music on the verge on bankruptcy
@@catwii_ Dumb Hybe Stans has the most stupid questions lmfao 😆😆
@@catwii_ why did they even make the multi label system when they are insecure with their own sublabels??🥴😂😂
Bunnies really compared le sserafim to new jeans but not fromis 9
its okay to dote on them ONLY if theyre the only GG on his company but nooo😢
im glad newjeans can fight with the aid of their former ceo but gfriend had nothing! even fromis 9 is neglected severely
i'll never forgive them for what they did to my girls friend
they're not even listening to their new ceo
I dont know why hybe wants an unnecessary competition with other groups..which leads to groups bad reputation and frequent fan wars 😢
haters make a petition so bts could disband before hybe exists
Dear, no businesses in the world can exist without a competition. Name one item that you consume/use in your life that has no competition. Even in looking for jobs you compete against someone. It's the fact of life. Hybe has every right as a company to compete in the music market, in the same way that SM, JYP, etc. are doing. What's unacceptable is using devious ways to compete (as how Kakao groups are doing currently to bring down HYBE).
I'm happy people are waking up to how weird bang PD is in general. But also his weird obsession with this girl group like when everything first started happening with new jeans like I don't like MHJ but I found it so hypocritical the way that people talked about how she treated new jeans when he basically admitted to cheating this girl group the same way. Not only has he invited them to his place in LA to have dinner on more than one occasion and then after that news had came out he decided to invite his boy group Enhyphen to eat there too because it just seemed weird that he only ever had a girl group go there. But also the fact that he allegedly this is rumors cuz I can't seem to find where this came from but apparently in an interview he talked about how he's pretty close with this girl group and how he has a group chat with them the same way that MHJ has a group chat with the girls of new jeans and I was just like that's just so weird. It's like the things he would complain about or try to use to talk shit about that other woman and new jeans was so weird because it was hypocritical cuz it's like sir you basically admitted to or have shown that you have the same sort of bond or trying to create it with your other girl group.
And then when people would get mad at them because I saw people who attend hate to them because they were like oh my God NJ & MHJ is the reason that Gfriend disbanded when that made no sense.
Just for a to basically come out that he did that on purpose because he didn't want to group that he had no say so and that he didn't help create be like the global girl group. He let the fact that BTS was talented on their own he did nothing but bring them together and they garnish all that success because he happened to be lucky with finding seven individuals that worked really well together even though we know he has also tried to sabotage at least one or two of those members on purpose too which is wild.
He wanted to create that same success with a girl group to have a boy group in girl group on top and he fucked it up. The girls of this group are very talented and they're good but that's like to become a BTS or blackpink you kind of have to have that initial draw in which new jeans had but because he had nothing to do with them he couldn't stand the idea of them being the next girl group or group from his record label to become more globalized and instead he ended up kind of low-key ruining this girl group not because they're not talented but it genuinely does gotten to the point where it feels like they do nothing but exploit them.
I used to listen to this girl group I was a casual listener and then it kind of felt like the company went on this weird woe is me campaign where all they did was sit there and exploit the absolute fuck out of the insecurities of this poor girl group and certain members and then on top of that it was them just pushing them so hard when they clearly weren't prepared or ready for any of that.
They have not sat there and given them the proper training in terms of stamina or being able to perform the songs and stuff that they give them live comfortably to sit there and push them as hard as they have been pushing them but then they have other groups who are able to do that boy groups and girl groups yes instead of them focusing on those groups and pushing them a little further a little harder they're not even remotely trying to do that and it's like the weirdest shit ever it's okay if you have favorites but like you should at least make sure that they're prepared and ready to take on the role that you want to give them not just throw them to the wolves
NEW JEANS WON " BILLBOARD MAGAZINE's GROUP OF THE YEAR " BUT THE BIG BOSS's TEACHERS PET GIRL GROUP LESSerthan DIDN'T AND THEY DEBUTED FIRST, THATS WHY ALL THE ---- AGAINST NEW JEANS, WITH BTS and NEW JEANS THE BEST OF BOTH GENDERS, BIG BOSS MAN SHOULD BE STRUTTING LIKE A ROOSTER/PEACOCK INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET RID OF ONE, LESSerthan WILL NEVER BE NEW JEANS, BUT I LOVE MUSIC MYSELF, so does Billboard reason N J won
even BIG BOSS's girlfriend LOVES NEW JEANS
@@bobbyfellerd2993ikr 😂😂😂💅💅
@@bobbyfellerd2993
R u not embarassed with the "Lesserthan"shade like u really thought u ate sounding like a kindergartener
Leave f building after using bts fame then asking their member to disband is so mhj like behavior congrats rabbit u guys disgusting
@@bobbyfellerd2993hate on Hybe not the groups
HYBE one of the fact about that company is they debut lsf because he want to step aespa🔥🔥🔥🔥
From a business perspective, I think it was a better strategy to simultaneously launch all three girl groups: fromis_9, NewJeans, and LE SSERAFIM. After assessing their market performance, he could then allocate more resources to the group that is performing the best.
I mean he can't know which group can do better if he doesn't give them equal treatment if only hybe was smart enough he could push his 3 group and promote them well and after that he could choose which group is doing better in the mareket and manage more resources to that group but instead he was trying to push one group without rest which is risky they may not be accepted or incapable to do it globally like if plan A faild you gotta move or have plan B at least but he kept pushing le sserafim so much
I think if he want to make group like blackpink or twice first he gotta make sure how and why did BP and twice made it internationally instead of trying to move on blindly like wheatear we hate yg and jyp at least they know how to move with tha market like they don't make anything special from any entertainment the key is just to make sure when to promote and how to like take black pink for example like they were promoting their first three to four years in asia which they started to gain more and more fan like especially in the big three market in asia, china japan and korea after thier huge succeed in which they entered the top 100 billboard with their song ddu du ddu du at number 55 they started chasing western market like even if they couldn't make it to the western at least they can relay on the asia fans or the big three market in asia
That's my opinion thank you
it's already proven based on their Japan albums sales
@jrjejune who ?
Here comes txt with the most mistreated group
But sadly txt are called as hybe princes
And then there's ILLIT, god help us...
So MHJ can be NJ "mother" but Source Music shouldn't treat their artists right.. what you'll want, bullying, harassment,,, WTF is wrong with netizens,
Like what treatment do you'll want for idols.
So the Hybe hate its artists narrative is not really true then. Wow.. every day, some new shot with Kookielit.
HYBE should have focused more on better vocal training for their Gruop instead of talking bad and Blackpink and Twice! Coachella was an ABSOLUTE disaster!
Because LESSERAFIM deserve it ❤. 🎉❤❤❤
Dont cry if they are suddenly disband, toxic army company stan will not defend lsf, like they did to eunchae, her tv program replace by illit member 😅 toxic army said its okay, its normal dont blame hybe 😂
@@YaseminLoveÖmer Eunchae's show was connected to her Music show hosting position. She left that position and Minju took it over which is why the show also changed to Minju. But, sure, go off and pretend like it's some big conspiracy...
Every group and artist deserve equal respect from their company. No one should be favoured over the other. Artists are human beings who deserve common courtesy and to be treated respectfully.
Simple. If you work hard you get treated well. But if you nag and don’t wanna work then why should they treat you well.
And Fromis9 is just there in the corner like they also need attention
But Hybe let Garam be the victim of witch hunt even if she's not one.
Hybe do not manage artist and do not produce music. Hybe only publishing the music. Le sserafim's company is Source Music who manage and produce music for Le sserafim. Hybe owned Source Music, but Hybe CEO cannot interference Source Music in everyday live. Hybe interference Source Music in shareholder meeting. Just STUPID content creator who do not understand what a company is.
How is it Le sserafim's fault that other sub labels don't promote or treat their ggs decently 😭 mind you source music (le sserafim's label) is still a horrible label
Though Le sserefraim is a good girl group, it lacks something to make a breakthrough like black pink did. Even new jeans did outcompete very many groups in their debut period like Ive, G idle and could battle black pink in second but I don't think Le sserafim has ever done this. I really love this group a lot but if I was hybe, I would focus on new jeans instead. Seriously.
At least le sserafim aren't controversial as Jack Doherty
As a fear it even coachella kind of sucked 😢
and gaining the title of South Korea’s Embarrassment
Jealous 😂
There is a Gfriend before Lesserafim
TBH, I love the girls, i genuinely believe they have nothing to do with the whole favoritism from their boss. Its unfair to hate on the girls when the even them have no say on anything.
i feel bad for lesserafim but hybe's dream is too big they cant support it with all these bad decisions theyre making every week
Nothing surprising about Hybe favoring Le Sserafim. Companies promote money makers that are loyal to the company and speak favorably about the company in public. And nothing surprising about Hybe shelving New Jeans. Companies seek to rid themselves of disloyal employees that tarnish the Company's image in public. I love NewJeans, but you could see that Hybe's management would not tolerate what Hybe perceived as a complete betrayal of their trust. In short, Hybe is communicating with every one of their groups, saying there are rewards for being loyal, and there will be punishment for those who betray our trust.
i don’t think anyone can stay loyal while enduring unfair treatment.
new jeans was considered a threat to BSH/HYBE after their successful debut. Because MHJ was credited by both NJ and the people alike for her fresh, unique concept with NJ and none mentioned BSH.
NJ didn’t kickstart this whole ordeal. HYBE bring it upon themseves thinking they can just simply bully NJ.
Imagine staying ‘loyal and obedient’ while your company is trying to throw you in the dungeon. Hybe stans are still Clueless 😆
They can't even get a decent vocal teacher for lsf😫