Completely agree and the first thing I was thinking as I watched. Even the hull and gelcoat repairs, if cosmetic and superficial are super easy. Even if just starting and you buy the tools you need as repairs pop up the cost will still be much more manageable. You can also tackle each issue as it comes up spreading out the cost. Great opportunity for video content. Bring one of your friends on for a how too... Tight lines!
My cousin has a dump truck business, he puts way more into his truck than that. Tires constantly, something getting welded, general maintenance etc…. If this is your business, and you love it, well worth the investment. Thanks for another great episode…
I have a good 4-year-old bay boat in Texas, and I am not surprised at all with your experience. You didn't bring up the three basic upkeep, which are storage (if you live in a typical deed restricted neighborhood, chances are you can't keep your boat at your home) that runs from $75 at a land-based storage to $300 at a marina minimum a month, cleaning supplies (for flushing your motor and cleaning the hull), and fuel to run the boat. I had no idea before I started shopping for a boat and doing the research that a gallon of gas gets you at most around 2.5 miles on water. I run my boat mostly inshore about once a week, and these three basic expenditures alone run $500 to $750 a month. I just want to echo what many people say about cost of owning a boat to those that may be thinking about buying. Not to scare them away but to help them get the numbers right. I enjoy the freedom of fishing at different places with my boat and the ever changing elements. But it is indeed a costly hobby.
I took someone out a while back and when it came time to pitch in for gas, he thought he was paying more than his fair share with a $20 bill. He actually though he was paying our way. Some people are clueless.
As a first-time boat owner myself, I found quite a learning curve to just get the basics right. Some folks don't realize how "fragile" fiberglass and gel coat are. I have friends and families that would just drop sinkers (or the anchor) on the deck casually or slide a pair of pliers from the front to the back of my center console. A friend of mine saw me scrubbing the deck after we fished and said I could make my life a lot easier by just pouring down some bleach.
Well done also loved the "twinning". I know every boat owner is going to add their perspective so here's mine. I own a 2004 Grady 232 Gulfstream with an LOA of 27' powered by twin 2004 Yamaha 150 4 strokes with 850 hours. I purchased the boat about 5 years ago with very low hours. The boat was kept out of the water and was in very good shape. Thank goodness I have had no major engine issues. The boat is mostly used for fishing and is kept in a slip in a marina on the south shore of Long Island. I average about 125-150 hours per year. I have put quite a bit of money into upgrading the electronics and cosmetics (including upholstery) which I had done professionally. I also upgraded all the lighting and added a windlass myself. I love my boat and take very good care of her which is why my girlfriend refers to her as "my fiberglass mistress"! (she loves it too) The price of owning a boat is also influenced by where you live and keep your boat. As I said, I live in the Northeast and keep my boat in a slip in a marina so you have to consider some additional costs. This includes the cost of the slip and winterizing the boat which includes haul out, regular engine maintenance (including winterization of engines and water systems), bottom cleaning/repainting, shrink wrap , etc. My total annual cost runs about $10,000 not including other repairs or upgrades. I do a lot of small repairs and maintenance myself like replacing saltwater washdown pumps, replacing cockpit drains and hoses, I could go on and on. Engine/systems and any fiberglass work I leave to the experts. The point is that yes owning a boat is vey EXPENSIVE but if you really love is as I do it's also PRICELESS. If you are thinking of owning a boat and you can afford to keep it in a slip I would highly recommend doing so. There are a few drawbacks to this but it will allow you to get the most out of the boat owning experience. Lastly, looking to the future if I had to repower in the next 4-6 years I would. She's a great boat and is as comfortable going offshore for tuna as she is tubing with with the kids in the bay.
When they diagnosed the trim motor as failed, it is on them of you still have trim issues. That is called parts changing in hopes that it solves the issue...
I like how you talk over one another, it adds to the charm of you being younger and it comes across as genuine, like your not that different from me. As far as costs go - anyone who has ever been successful running equipment knows downtime is much more expensive than repairs, so when it’s in the shop get everything fixed so you can be back in service asap. It’s cool for you guys that you can do a video and still promote your channel while getting repairs done. And as soon as you are able, buy brand new, it’s much cheaper than used if you are running a business where downtime is costing income.
Changing a tilt and trim motor literally takes 45 minutes and the motor alone can be bought for a hundred or two. Knowing how to do your own maintenance saves a ton of money.
I've always done my own work on my boats. That's why i love older two stroke motors. Much easier and cheaper to work on. Self taught and it has saved me thousands. The newer motors forget it. All computerized and you need software and a laptop to diagnose. Thats where it gets real expensive.
I prefer to do the maintenance myself. Most of the stuff y’all had done is easy work , the wrap is time consuming , but at the end of the day you will save tons of money doing it yourself. I’m finishing up the restoration of my 1966 13 whaler and I had zero help. We’ll help from my brother to flip the boat back over on to the trailer . It gives me a sense of pride knowing I did it by myself and saved thousands
No, they might save a little money or they might lose money, diy. It depends whether they flip burgers for a living or have a higher income spending thier time differently. The marina only charges $125 hr, they may very well earn more than that
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing. Everyone always says how expensive it is to maintain a boat but no one breaks it down like y'all did. The mechanic who redid the work that wasn't done right the first time did exactly what you are supposed to do. If you charge for a service and don't do it right for whatever reason you need to fix it on your own dime. You might want to keep that guy. You also may want to learn how to do some of these things yourself. Like a previous commenter said it will save you a ton of money. I think it would also make for good TH-cam content for your channel too. Keep up the good work. Good luck ladies and God bless.
We’re blessed that we can wrench on our own stuff. Our twin Johnson 115 two stroke carb engines are 2005’s but only have about 400 hours total on them. Thank God that they were very well taken care of and are in very good condition. The manuals and parts are still available so we can easily keep them going for a few more years. The engine paint work looks great!!! That always bugged me. If we were neighbors I would have painted them for you for free if you would had bought the paint, paper and tape. I hope that you guys get all of this sorted out!
Talked the Mrs into letting me buy a used offshore boat two months ago. I have her believing that the only expense is storage, gas and insurance. Don’t ruin my charade ha ha!
"Twinning!" LOL. The mistake was having the cowlings painted. $1,000 wasted. Intrepid hulls are amazing and with the price of new boats a repower IS the way to go. Unless you are going to get some sort of sponsorship deal and get one of those Freemans gifted or a humongous discount. Just my $0.02. thanks for sharing your costs ... the other items of concern are slip fees, fuel and insurance. Fish on!
Still get most of it back on resale of those engines even if is just because the engine now doesnt look like a piece of non-maintained dump. But agree a repower on the intrepid is likely the winning move when you consider what a newer 32 would cost
Good rule of thumb, take your hourly fuel consumption at cruise and multiply by 3... So, 30 gallons an hour x $4.00 per gallon is $120.00 which makes your extended cost of running the vessel at around $360.00 per hour. That should include maintenance, insurance, etc... Another good ROT is 10% of your boats value as a yearly maintenance budget. At the end of the day you have to take care of your boat, sweat equity pays a dividend, we are always combating corrosion, marine growth and UV damage. Fair Winds, Tight Lines and God Bless!!
Your hull is great. Re-power is the way to go, I did mine yearly 2021 and couldn't be happier. Went from old Yamaha to new Suzuki DS300s. Call the Outboard Specialties in Pompano, they have the best re-power service. You can go to twin 200 or 250/300 between 30 to 40k + new steering 5k. Well bellow a new boat cost. You can't find a decent second hand Interpid for under a 100k those days. Plus you've just sorted out the hull. Plus getting a $125 hour labor is well on the low side in south FL. You should have mentioned it. Most of the marinas and brand shops are zt 175+. And boat are money pit. You should mention the gas cost for 100hours of running. On those old Yamaha would be outrageous. I remember putting 40 gallons in the am and coming home with 1-2 bars left in thr pm. New outboards will save you so much $$$ on gas!
That's true. In 2020 I repowered my Whaler 305 conquest with twin 350 verados. Best purchase I made. I sold the old motors (twin 250 Verados) for a decent chunk of money even though they had 1475 hours on them. I use 50% less fuel and I can go twice as fast on the new motors (38 knots at WOT vs 17 knots at WOT with the old motors). I plan on keeping my whaler for the long haul (owned it for three years, want to keep it for at least another ten), so it made sense to repower my boat. If the Gale Force Twins don't intend on keeping their boat for over ten years, then it doesn't make sense to repower. They are right about the cost though, they do cost a lot, that's why the only systems I leave for the mechanic are the engines, air conditioning, and generator. Otherwise, I do the rest myself to save $$$$
Boats are really expensive specially when you pay a mechanic to do everything, I do everything on my own so I save a lot of money but I realize that some people use the excuse that it will cost too much money to keep the boat updated just to buy a bigger and newer boat just because they want a newer boat.
Checked on new boat myself. Have a 19 year old boat. The cost the same boat new is 3.5 times what i paid 19 years ago. If hull, deck and compartments are good. Think best to re-power and upgrade instruments. Unless looking at pre-owned. Then taking on a while new set of troubles
Very informative. I love your topic choices. They are always so helpful for how to “do” and considering future directions for boating choices (e.g. becoming a captain) and adventure, including fishing. Keep up the good work. It’s a blessing and your both investing in others! 🌞
The boat is worth more than you think! It’s definitely worth a Re-Power. As mentioned before you should call Outboard Specialists or Int Marine and get a set of 300 Suzuki’s.
I joined a boat club. 4 week days a week for 4.5 hours a trip. One time lifetime membership fee under $5k and a monthly cost under $400. I pull into the marina, staff unloads my gear and puts it on the boat - same when we are done. Sometimes they even catch us mullet and put it in the livewell. AVOID boat purchase, slip fee, insurance, maintenance, repairs, taxes, towing and winterization. We pay for the fuel used - but it is fueled for us
But what is the problem with the trim? It can’t just not be fixed. The hull is definitely worth a repower and far from a project boat. However, the cuddy layout, I agree, isn’t ideal for hardcore fishing full time. Don’t sell yourself short in selling it. Yes, the motors are tired at this point, but Intrepids are quality boats.
BOAT - Bring On Another Thousand . I have a 5m plate alloy boat , had it for 18 years , the Hull is in really good nick and the motor was always serviced once a year and still ran really good I would zip out to the reef and get a few Coral trout or go flicking lures for Barramundi or Mangrove jack , but the electronics was getting old and hard to see . So i made the descion to replace the old sounders /plotters with 3 new helix 9 Humminbird sounders and and sick of anchoring , I sprung for a new self deploy 80lb Min kota , two lithium batteries , as well as a new trailer , cause it was rusty and sad , and 3 times a year I tow it to Hinchinbrook , 400 klms from Cairns . So there was a little change out of 17 grand maybe enough to buy a coffee and a cream bun . All good , 3 months on , come back from about 160 klm overnite trip and just coming to the dock maybe 20m away and the out board started to cough , splutter and surge and just like that , cracked head . I had to replace the motor and there goes another 20 grand and mine is only a 115 . . Total Bill ouch .
I have a 1974 speedboat that I rebuilt from the ground up. 2 stroke merc 90 outboard from the same era. Talk about a money sink but it was a fun project and worth it. Still run to it this day.
My boat is an older boat. Because I love the boat each year there is something big I need to do. My trim motors are also acting up. Mine unfortunately need to be replaced. They will be quite a bit more than your rebuilds. Last year we did a new bracket. I have needed two repairs to the bottom. Like you I am not sure how they got there. I did a re power in 2013 and my motors only have around five hundred hours. I know, that’s not many hours. Life got in the way and I didn’t have time to go out. This year I will have time. Good luck with whatever direction you go, whether a re power or different boat.
How about switching to Gale Force Twins on kayaks? The expenses will go down drastically and you can catch pretty much the same fish in South Florida, since you don't need to go too far. A boat a huge waste of money and ocean pollution.
The boat is worth a repower, but not being able to walk down the port side and the front being enclosed isn’t the best for fishing. I can see why you want to move on.
honestly though, depending on your boat, it could be less maintenance than a 4x4 truck. I have a 15 foot aluminum boat and it hasn't given me much expenses outside of the initial setup and features that I want on it. If you DIY these services, it's even cheaper.
IF you can do your own work, a 100 hour service will run between $125 and $200 for parts (depending on whether anodes and/or an impeller are required). It does take a couple of hours and that is where the labor costs bring it to $500-$600/engine. The other expensive item for many boat owners is wiring. Between the pounding and corrosion, there is always something needing attention every couple of months. If you trailer, figure in new bearings every couple of years and new hubs and rotors every 3-4 years. It starts to make the price a guide charges look pretty good when you add it all up, but I would never give up having my own boat :).
@@billrector I started to say "ouch, the SHO kits must be pricey," but I just checked the 100 hr kit for my F300 with the water pump rebuild components and it's up to $330. Inflation strikes I guess.
I don't really find owning a 16 foot Legend aluminum boat with 90 HP Mercury 4 stroke particularly expensive. My biggest cost is annual insurance for $600. Winter storage is done in my back yard under a trailer cover and large tarp. Plus I do all the maintenance myself and the cost really is negligible for oil, filters etc once a year. I know it CAN be expensive to own a boat - particularly one that needs marina services - but not for most normal sized boats. My motorcycle costs me more annuallly.....
Good video for those newbies that need an understanding of the REAL cost of goat ownership. BTW, I just put over $9,000 into my 2002 SeaRay to have it ready for this next year.
I work for a road dept. You don't want to know how much it costs to maintain the equipment that we use to maintain the roads. Maintenance is always expensive, but lack of it is far more costly. I'm surprised you don't do your own maintenance though. Here in WA State, most decent sized marinas have places you can store your boat while you do maintenance. I'd imagine you have places like that down in FL. Be far cheaper. There will always be things that are better handled by a pro, but things like the 100 hour service or fiberglass repair can easily be DIY.
Great video, but you two have a ‘benefit’ most recreational boat owners don’t enjoy. Because your boat is a business asset, you can write down the repair costs as business expenses. Anyway, thanks for the useful content cheerfully and enthusiastically presented.
So, if you are strongly thinking abut the Intrepid is on its way out or soon to retire, what boat would you replace it with if money was not an issue, or in reality what boat would you have within your budget consideration?
I've owned a number of boats in my life, so I'm very familiar with the costs to own. I found your experiences to sound so familiar to mine that I think I'd be afraid to hear what I've spent on maintenance and service.
Have you considered just getting to the bottom of the trim issue and then selling while it still is running correctly? - once a motor blows up you’re going to take a huge hit on sale price unless you have it’s addressed before hand which again is more good money into it. I’d unload while both engines are running and you have the trim issue fixed completely. You’ve got a wonderful channel which you’ve worked hard to build. Frankly I’d consider treating yourselves to a new boat sooner rather than waiting for something to go really wrong with this one. Its an investment in yourselves. You’ve earned it. Cash out while you can. - best wishes.
Good news is it's an Intrepid. Bad news it needs a repower. My opinion if you repower it'll sell faster but will not recoup the repower cost. In this market I'd say try to sell as is for 4-6 months and see...
I don't know much about boats but i've been pondering on the idea of getting one. i am scared of the cost of maintenance.. If i just want a basic center console for fishing in the open bay in Chesapeake would it cost as much, I wonder. If you don't love the boat then i'd vote for trading in for your dream boat since this is what you do for living. Who knows what adventures that will bring in? maybe going to Bahamas will be a regular thing then? whatever decisions you guys make, all the best! Happy new year, hope its even better than the previous ones. cheers!
Dear Am and Em - Thank you for this vid. Sobering look at boat ownership. Given most gas stations now have 10% ethanol in their gasoline (increasing risk of water contamination and breakdown of parts in the fuel line), would you consider doing a video about all the ways you can protect your motors when using any kind of gas w/ E10?
@@HVASEA Would love to regularly use REC-90. However, no place around me has it. Maybe I just have to move somewhere w/much warmer weather and cleaner fuel. haha. I've been looking into fuel stabilizers, periodically replacing the fuel/water sep canister, and just not letting E10 sit in the tank very long. Star Tron seems to be one of the better fuel conditioners/stabilizers.. I welcome input from anyone who has found some functional alternatives.
Am in newyork where things are way way expensive more than Florida. I fix everything on my boat from re powering to uplostry my side panels . The marina hates my guts because all the gets from me is the slips and land storage fee. Then again I am not rich I love boating fishing it my hobby . I seen mechanics here in New York replace trim pumps on outboard when they know it not the pum , and the list goes on. And girls that boat looks great chane the motor oil on schedule don't over Rev them uncall for and they will last for ever. Good luck .
Wow I fix everything on my boat thanks to God. Owning a boat is not cheap. Plus I have i o not outboard but I'd I should own any outboard the same would apply I fix my own . Great review girls..
i have a new lund angler wintrize only $1300 with shrinkwrap thats oil change gas filter change stabler in the gas pressure wash and waxed then the storage is $200 a month 16 ft 50 hp angler boat payment 190 a month
more than likely you have a relay to trim going bad, i see that about 100 times a year, as far as motor for trim being locked up without looking at it personally Im very skeptical that trim motor was the issue as the same motor drives up and down if motor was "locked up" it wouldnt go up either, the trim tab repair the parts not to bad a price but really capped you on labor, i could install a new set on any boat including cut out for a double rocker switch in 3/4 hour to 1 hour at the most, when working at the sea ray plant in oxford MI back in the 80s it took less than 15 minutes to completely install a set of bennet tabs on a boat granted the boat was not fully assembled at that point but I have been a marine technician for 28 years and never has it taken over an hour on ANY boat to install a complete set tabs, cylinders, pump, wires and switch,to replace just the motor/hydro tank, That is a 20 minute job tops on the most hidden trim motor assembly. as far as prices go its not a fair comparison between where i am in Northern Michigan to your area of Florida (100 hr service) seemed extraordinarily high, depending on what was done some things to take apart on salt water boats vs fresh water can take lots of time ( ex: gearcase removal to replace a water pump impeller) id sure like to know what they perform for a 100 hr service. the most expensive 100 hour service we do here would be on a big block I/O which includes oil/filter change, gear lube change, grease zerks, compression test, depending on type of spark plugs usually replace those during comp test ( fishing boats here troll low speeds a lot) carb models adjust carb(s) efi hook to computer read any codes reset service, check boat electrical and inspect / check fitting,screws bolts etc, remove propellers grease the splines and remove any fish line etc, check anodes, hull, bottom pain, and that service runs around 450 to 500 parts and labor. outboards are generally much less. Im very fortunate to be able to run/ own old boats i can get cheap and make very reliable because I can perform any repair needed myself, P.S. Love your videos, as a person planning to move to Florida next year i was trolling youtube to find information and techniques to targeting certain types if fish, ( Tuna, Dolphin, Snapper) my experience salt water fishing was living around Tampa area in the early 80s for a few month fishing the causeway for sea trout and sheepshead and a one time trip on a party boat out of clearwater grey snapper fishing in 2004 so hats off to you ladies for teaching me tons much appreciated.... John
Time for a new boat? Great thing is used boat values are sky high. Problem is boat prices are sky high haha. You two are smart and I’m sure you’ll make a great decision when the time comes.
You need some big time sponsors and buy a new boat versus dumping money in a old boat. You should cover the fuel cost in running a boat. You should also tell people buying a boat is worse than buying a new car. Compare the cost of buying a boat to renting a boat.
A full rewire probably would solve most of your problems. I dont think the motors are even necessarily bad and probably worth keeping esp after the cowlings were painted. It pays to know a little bit about motors. the yamahas are simple motors so when things break alot of times its a quick fix like a replaceable fuse , harness etc. your motors probly wont just blow up anytime soon if youve gotten them this far XD unless you stop maintaining them. People have records of getting 7500-10,000 hours out of those yamahas.many people sell their motors as is and finance new motors suzuki has lots of affordable deals but im not sure how the supply is may be backorder.
If I remember correctly, at the time this video was published, there were pretty severe and ongoing supply chain issues on Yamaha engine parts. My neighbor in the Keys is a fishing captain and was telling me about the tight availability on parts.
Having been a boat owner this is my definition of a boat, "a hole in the water that you throw your money into". Don't get me wrong I loved boating but that is the way it is.
I'm no expert, but I think you got screwed on your trim issue. If the trim motor was locked up, then you wouldn't be able to trim up. I would have guessed it would just trim down via gravity meaning you just had a bad (stuck) pressure release valve. I could easily be wrong and it does power down or the valve could be part of the motor and not replaceable without replacing the whole motor. Surely it doesn't have a separate motor for up and down.
We were using a 1958 Evinrude on our wooden Lyman in 1997! Ran like a champ! It probably still is, somewhere. So, how much of thesr repairs are you writing off on taxes because it's a business? Because that's how you boat for a lot less.
You guys are a smart team, you should be doing most of your own maintenance. Boat maintenance is not Rocket science, especially with the help of TH-camrs. By the way, Yamaha parts are way over priced, there are many after market parts for a fraction of the price, same part just doesnt say yamaha...Im no cheapskate, just dont blow cash if you dont have to....Just sayin.
I would love to own a boat as soon as I move to Florida. Can you tell me if there is a school where can I go to learn all that is needed to be able to run my boat? Thanks
Don't take this the wrong way, but I suspect you're overpaying because either you don't know better or someone is taking advantage of you. Do your own maintenance and get a trailer, it will pay itself off in a few years and is useful if you've got to pull out for a hurricane. Learn to do your own maintenance, it will save you a load of money. Consider going to get your Yamaha maintenance certification, classes will cost you between 2500 and 5000, and take up to 3 weeks. Afterwards, register as a Yamaha repairman under a business, then buy your parts (even full new motors) at dealer cost direct from Yamaha.
With all due respect I subscribe to the ostrich budget. Putting my head in the sand and not wanting to keep track of $$$. On Lake Erie between dockage & storage for a 42 Express I am at $8000 before I put a drop of fuel in for the season. I am one not to skimp on maintenance and upgrading depending on the season I spend another $5000-7000/per year. Mechanical attention is yearly be it engine, generator, batteries, trim tabs, prop attention. Bottom paint every other season above the toe rail gets detailed every other below the toe rail get waxed every other season. Not a cheap lifestyle.
Maybe it would be better to have than a single-engine boat. The price would be around 50% less (would it? I guess.), but if the engine goes down somewhere on the sea far from the land then that can be a serious issue. It's a huge amount of money... Look like it's a money pit I mean I'm watching from my perspective I'd be using my boat like maybe 1 month per entire year at most and the rest it would just be standing on land waiting... Guess there is no calculation of me ever owning the boat. I've heard that Suzuki motors are the most reliable while Yamaha has expensive parts... Anyway... if you had a trailer would that change anything I mean you could do a lot on your own but do you have that much time? Then you need to buy tools too. And then you're playing a mechanic instead of spending quality time on the sea. I see It's hard when you want to cut the expenses down. Look like they just don't go down below 1k every time you visit the maintenance. I never understood why are boats so expensive? Much more than cars! And all plastic more or less. :/
Until I reach retirement age (I’m 33 now) I’ll settle for paying for guides / trips of party boats like the capts / gulfstar. Ownership would be too much.
Nice video Emily and Amanda. I wanted to know your opinion on this. I live in NJ and I have a 2001 Aquasport Explorer walk around. I bought the boat in February 2013 and it had 163 hours on. Now eight years later, it only has about 360 hrs on it. The boat is operated in fresh and salt water and has had regular maintenance done on it. However, I haven’t used the boat anywhere near where I thought I would have. I know you guys cannot tell the future but what is your opinions on what has more effect on the boat, the low hours or the 20 year age? I’m a whole lot older you both and cannot really see myself buying another boat; however, I am not ready to sell this boat. What do y’all think?
With low hours and older age, your biggest issue is going to be seals wearing on the motor. Electrical issues with corrosion. A newer boat with more hours won't have those issues but more wear and tear problems
@@muddpuppy07 I appreciate your reply. This is something I’ve been thinking about a little bit more lately because if my motor went, I would have to decide to either rebuild or buy a new motor. But even with a new motor, I still have a 20 year old boat.
@@tokyobosco I am in the process of rebuilding a 93 proline 230 center console. I know I will have more in the boat than it is worth but to buy something new or even only a few years old I will still be paying less for my project. The old thinking of value of the boat to the cost of repair is starting to go to the way side and become what is the replacement cost compared to repair cost.
@@muddpuppy07 My Aquasport is pretty simple. I’m not willing to spend the money on a new boat. I’m just going to keep using what I have, do my maintenance and hope for the best.
As a boat owner for over 25 years I totally understand you have to decide to either keep the boat and repower or sell it. As a mechanic I get to save a lot of money because I repair everything on my boat. After listening to you explain how the trim only worked in one direction I knew it wasn't the electric motor because it would not have worked at all. My boat is also a 2005 and I repowered before the motor became a money pit the good thing about that is you can easily sell older outboard motors while there still running. Potential buyer can demo the motors at least it may cover part of the bill like taxes etc. Lol well good luck and I enjoy your videos keep up the great work
I bought an 05 Boston Whaler 305 Conquest in 2018 for my offshore fishing boat. I Just repowered it last year with twin 350 Verados, I sold the old motors, 05 Verado 250s with 1500 hours plus the rigging. I also got all new simrad electronics and added radar, along with many other upgrades. It’s a great hull for fishing here in South Florida.
What brand of shorts do y’all wear on the boat? I have trouble finding good boat shorts. (Btw, y’all inspired me to get my 6 pack this year! Doing my Masters in January!)
I will save you the hassle. I will come get that boat from ya'll and save you the headache of trying to get rid of it!.... Great videos keep up the good work!
Hobby's definitely cost money. If it is your job it is a tool . Any business is always repairing tools . It sucks but hopefully it is making more money than it cost to use it
It think 😂you might want to date a marine mechanic and I not one but if you have to fix so much that would have a big befit you girl deserve way better then 126,000 subscribers there nobody else that has the same Integrity as these two girls do if it was too ever have a little one it grate to know that there is really people that are responsible and Respectable to the younger views and please people if you have never subscribe to there channel I hope you will because it see a future were more important things are at stake and you can walked away from your screen knowing that you’re not going to have to wonder what being said I live by the same spirit
When owning a boat its best to try and learn how to do most of the maintenance yourself. Its saves a ton of money and you can be sure its done right.
Completely agree and the first thing I was thinking as I watched. Even the hull and gelcoat repairs, if cosmetic and superficial are super easy. Even if just starting and you buy the tools you need as repairs pop up the cost will still be much more manageable. You can also tackle each issue as it comes up spreading out the cost. Great opportunity for video content. Bring one of your friends on for a how too... Tight lines!
Can you be sure, though? I know what you’re saying and agree, but there are plenty of people who try and probably shouldn’t.
Agree. The job may take under an hour but if the book says it's 2 hours of labor you are paying 2 hours of labor.
Love it , DONE RIGHT
Is their a school you can go to so you can learn how to work on your own boat
I’ve heard it said “The two best days of a boat owners life is the day he buys his boat and the day he sells it”
My cousin has a dump truck business, he puts way more into his truck than that. Tires constantly, something getting welded, general maintenance etc…. If this is your business, and you love it, well worth the investment. Thanks for another great episode…
Tire’s or tires?
@@borysnijinski331 We all make mistakes…
Right, but how much is that dump truck making your cousin?
@@Icutmetal Last I spoke to him about it, he was between 150k and 175k depending on the year. Tough sledding now with fuel prices.
I have a good 4-year-old bay boat in Texas, and I am not surprised at all with your experience. You didn't bring up the three basic upkeep, which are storage (if you live in a typical deed restricted neighborhood, chances are you can't keep your boat at your home) that runs from $75 at a land-based storage to $300 at a marina minimum a month, cleaning supplies (for flushing your motor and cleaning the hull), and fuel to run the boat. I had no idea before I started shopping for a boat and doing the research that a gallon of gas gets you at most around 2.5 miles on water. I run my boat mostly inshore about once a week, and these three basic expenditures alone run $500 to $750 a month. I just want to echo what many people say about cost of owning a boat to those that may be thinking about buying. Not to scare them away but to help them get the numbers right. I enjoy the freedom of fishing at different places with my boat and the ever changing elements. But it is indeed a costly hobby.
I took someone out a while back and when it came time to pitch in for gas, he thought he was paying more than his fair share with a $20 bill. He actually though he was paying our way. Some people are clueless.
As a first-time boat owner myself, I found quite a learning curve to just get the basics right. Some folks don't realize how "fragile" fiberglass and gel coat are. I have friends and families that would just drop sinkers (or the anchor) on the deck casually or slide a pair of pliers from the front to the back of my center console. A friend of mine saw me scrubbing the deck after we fished and said I could make my life a lot easier by just pouring down some bleach.
Well done also loved the "twinning". I know every boat owner is going to add their perspective so here's mine. I own a 2004 Grady 232 Gulfstream with an LOA of 27' powered by twin 2004 Yamaha 150 4 strokes with 850 hours. I purchased the boat about 5 years ago with very low hours. The boat was kept out of the water and was in very good shape. Thank goodness I have had no major engine issues. The boat is mostly used for fishing and is kept in a slip in a marina on the south shore of Long Island. I average about 125-150 hours per year. I have put quite a bit of money into upgrading the electronics and cosmetics (including upholstery) which I had done professionally. I also upgraded all the lighting and added a windlass myself. I love my boat and take very good care of her which is why my girlfriend refers to her as "my fiberglass mistress"! (she loves it too)
The price of owning a boat is also influenced by where you live and keep your boat. As I said, I live in the Northeast and keep my boat in a slip in a marina so you have to consider some additional costs. This includes the cost of the slip and winterizing the boat which includes haul out, regular engine maintenance (including winterization of engines and water systems), bottom cleaning/repainting, shrink wrap , etc. My total annual cost runs about $10,000 not including other repairs or upgrades. I do a lot of small repairs and maintenance myself like replacing saltwater washdown pumps, replacing cockpit drains and hoses, I could go on and on. Engine/systems and any fiberglass work I leave to the experts. The point is that yes owning a boat is vey EXPENSIVE but if you really love is as I do it's also PRICELESS. If you are thinking of owning a boat and you can afford to keep it in a slip I would highly recommend doing so. There are a few drawbacks to this but it will allow you to get the most out of the boat owning experience.
Lastly, looking to the future if I had to repower in the next 4-6 years I would. She's a great boat and is as comfortable going offshore for tuna as she is tubing with with the kids in the bay.
When they diagnosed the trim motor as failed, it is on them of you still have trim issues. That is called parts changing in hopes that it solves the issue...
I like how you talk over one another, it adds to the charm of you being younger and it comes across as genuine, like your not that different from me. As far as costs go - anyone who has ever been successful running equipment knows downtime is much more expensive than repairs, so when it’s in the shop get everything fixed so you can be back in service asap. It’s cool for you guys that you can do a video and still promote your channel while getting repairs done. And as soon as you are able, buy brand new, it’s much cheaper than used if you are running a business where downtime is costing income.
Changing a tilt and trim motor literally takes 45 minutes and the motor alone can be bought for a hundred or two. Knowing how to do your own maintenance saves a ton of money.
I've always done my own work on my boats. That's why i love older two stroke motors. Much easier and cheaper to work on. Self taught and it has saved me thousands. The newer motors forget it. All computerized and you need software and a laptop to diagnose. Thats where it gets real expensive.
I prefer to do the maintenance myself. Most of the stuff y’all had done is easy work , the wrap is time consuming , but at the end of the day you will save tons of money doing it yourself. I’m finishing up the restoration of my 1966 13 whaler and I had zero help. We’ll help from my brother to flip the boat back over on to the trailer . It gives me a sense of pride knowing I did it by myself and saved thousands
No, they might save a little money or they might lose money, diy. It depends whether they flip burgers for a living or have a higher income spending thier time differently. The marina only charges $125 hr, they may very well earn more than that
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing. Everyone always says how expensive it is to maintain a boat but no one breaks it down like y'all did. The mechanic who redid the work that wasn't done right the first time did exactly what you are supposed to do. If you charge for a service and don't do it right for whatever reason you need to fix it on your own dime. You might want to keep that guy. You also may want to learn how to do some of these things yourself. Like a previous commenter said it will save you a ton of money. I think it would also make for good TH-cam content for your channel too. Keep up the good work. Good luck ladies and God bless.
We’re blessed that we can wrench on our own stuff. Our twin Johnson 115 two stroke carb engines are 2005’s but only have about 400 hours total on them. Thank God that they were very well taken care of and are in very good condition. The manuals and parts are still available so we can easily keep them going for a few more years. The engine paint work looks great!!! That always bugged me. If we were neighbors I would have painted them for you for free if you would had bought the paint, paper and tape. I hope that you guys get all of this sorted out!
Talked the Mrs into letting me buy a used offshore boat two months ago. I have her believing that the only expense is storage, gas and insurance. Don’t ruin my charade ha ha!
"Twinning!" LOL. The mistake was having the cowlings painted. $1,000 wasted. Intrepid hulls are amazing and with the price of new boats a repower IS the way to go. Unless you are going to get some sort of sponsorship deal and get one of those Freemans gifted or a humongous discount. Just my $0.02. thanks for sharing your costs ... the other items of concern are slip fees, fuel and insurance. Fish on!
Still get most of it back on resale of those engines even if is just because the engine now doesnt look like a piece of non-maintained dump. But agree a repower on the intrepid is likely the winning move when you consider what a newer 32 would cost
Good rule of thumb, take your hourly fuel consumption at cruise and multiply by 3...
So, 30 gallons an hour x $4.00 per gallon is $120.00 which makes your extended cost of running the vessel at around $360.00 per hour. That should include maintenance, insurance, etc...
Another good ROT is 10% of your boats value as a yearly maintenance budget.
At the end of the day you have to take care of your boat, sweat equity pays a dividend, we are always combating corrosion, marine growth and UV damage.
Fair Winds, Tight Lines and God Bless!!
Your hull is great. Re-power is the way to go, I did mine yearly 2021 and couldn't be happier. Went from old Yamaha to new Suzuki DS300s. Call the Outboard Specialties in Pompano, they have the best re-power service. You can go to twin 200 or 250/300 between 30 to 40k + new steering 5k. Well bellow a new boat cost. You can't find a decent second hand Interpid for under a 100k those days. Plus you've just sorted out the hull. Plus getting a $125 hour labor is well on the low side in south FL. You should have mentioned it. Most of the marinas and brand shops are zt 175+.
And boat are money pit.
You should mention the gas cost for 100hours of running. On those old Yamaha would be outrageous. I remember putting 40 gallons in the am and coming home with 1-2 bars left in thr pm. New outboards will save you so much $$$ on gas!
That's true. In 2020 I repowered my Whaler 305 conquest with twin 350 verados. Best purchase I made. I sold the old motors (twin 250 Verados) for a decent chunk of money even though they had 1475 hours on them. I use 50% less fuel and I can go twice as fast on the new motors (38 knots at WOT vs 17 knots at WOT with the old motors). I plan on keeping my whaler for the long haul (owned it for three years, want to keep it for at least another ten), so it made sense to repower my boat. If the Gale Force Twins don't intend on keeping their boat for over ten years, then it doesn't make sense to repower. They are right about the cost though, they do cost a lot, that's why the only systems I leave for the mechanic are the engines, air conditioning, and generator. Otherwise, I do the rest myself to save $$$$
Boats are really expensive specially when you pay a mechanic to do everything, I do everything on my own so I save a lot of money but I realize that some people use the excuse that it will cost too much money to keep the boat updated just to buy a bigger and newer boat just because they want a newer boat.
Checked on new boat myself. Have a 19 year old boat. The cost the same boat new is 3.5 times what i paid 19 years ago. If hull, deck and compartments are good. Think best to re-power and upgrade instruments. Unless looking at pre-owned. Then taking on a while new set of troubles
Very informative. I love your topic choices. They are always so helpful for how to “do” and considering future directions for boating choices (e.g. becoming a captain) and adventure, including fishing. Keep up the good work. It’s a blessing and your both investing in others! 🌞
The boat is worth more than you think! It’s definitely worth a Re-Power. As mentioned before you should call Outboard Specialists or Int Marine and get a set of 300 Suzuki’s.
I joined a boat club. 4 week days a week for 4.5 hours a trip. One time lifetime membership fee under $5k and a monthly cost under $400. I pull into the marina, staff unloads my gear and puts it on the boat - same when we are done. Sometimes they even catch us mullet and put it in the livewell. AVOID boat purchase, slip fee, insurance, maintenance, repairs, taxes, towing and winterization. We pay for the fuel used - but it is fueled for us
There’s an ass for every seat.
But what is the problem with the trim? It can’t just not be fixed.
The hull is definitely worth a repower and far from a project boat. However, the cuddy layout, I agree, isn’t ideal for hardcore fishing full time. Don’t sell yourself short in selling it. Yes, the motors are tired at this point, but Intrepids are quality boats.
BOAT - Bring On Another Thousand . I have a 5m plate alloy boat , had it for 18 years , the Hull is in really good nick and the motor was always serviced once a year and still ran really good I would zip out to the reef and get a few Coral trout or go flicking lures for Barramundi or Mangrove jack , but the electronics was getting old and hard to see . So i made the descion to replace the old sounders /plotters with 3 new helix 9 Humminbird sounders and and sick of anchoring , I sprung for a new self deploy 80lb Min kota , two lithium batteries , as well as a new trailer , cause it was rusty and sad , and 3 times a year I tow it to Hinchinbrook , 400 klms from Cairns . So there was a little change out of 17 grand maybe enough to buy a coffee and a cream bun . All good , 3 months on , come back from about 160 klm overnite trip and just coming to the dock maybe 20m away and the out board started to cough , splutter and surge and just like that , cracked head . I had to replace the motor and there goes another 20 grand and mine is only a 115 . . Total Bill ouch .
I have a 1974 speedboat that I rebuilt from the ground up. 2 stroke merc 90 outboard from the same era. Talk about a money sink but it was a fun project and worth it. Still run to it this day.
My boat is an older boat. Because I love the boat each year there is something big I need to do. My trim motors are also acting up. Mine unfortunately need to be replaced. They will be quite a bit more than your rebuilds. Last year we did a new bracket. I have needed two repairs to the bottom. Like you I am not sure how they got there. I did a re power in 2013 and my motors only have around five hundred hours. I know, that’s not many hours. Life got in the way and I didn’t have time to go out. This year I will have time. Good luck with whatever direction you go, whether a re power or different boat.
How about switching to Gale Force Twins on kayaks? The expenses will go down drastically and you can catch pretty much the same fish in South Florida, since you don't need to go too far.
A boat a huge waste of money and ocean pollution.
Very informative video. Basically if your are going to pay a shop to maintain your boat stay away from from most used boats over 5 years old.
Don't listen to the people complaining about the engines and other cosmetic issues. Performance is what matters.
The boat is worth a repower, but not being able to walk down the port side and the front being enclosed isn’t the best for fishing. I can see why you want to move on.
honestly though, depending on your boat, it could be less maintenance than a 4x4 truck. I have a 15 foot aluminum boat and it hasn't given me much expenses outside of the initial setup and features that I want on it. If you DIY these services, it's even cheaper.
IF you can do your own work, a 100 hour service will run between $125 and $200 for parts (depending on whether anodes and/or an impeller are required). It does take a couple of hours and that is where the labor costs bring it to $500-$600/engine. The other expensive item for many boat owners is wiring. Between the pounding and corrosion, there is always something needing attention every couple of months. If you trailer, figure in new bearings every couple of years and new hubs and rotors every 3-4 years.
It starts to make the price a guide charges look pretty good when you add it all up, but I would never give up having my own boat :).
Parts alone for my F250 SHO cost just shy of $400
@@billrector I started to say "ouch, the SHO kits must be pricey," but I just checked the 100 hr kit for my F300 with the water pump rebuild components and it's up to $330. Inflation strikes I guess.
Locked up trim motor not possible if it powers up but not down sounds like a failing relay or corrosion in the wiring….. y’all got had paying $900+
I don't really find owning a 16 foot Legend aluminum boat with 90 HP Mercury 4 stroke particularly expensive. My biggest cost is annual insurance for $600. Winter storage is done in my back yard under a trailer cover and large tarp. Plus I do all the maintenance myself and the cost really is negligible for oil, filters etc once a year. I know it CAN be expensive to own a boat - particularly one that needs marina services - but not for most normal sized boats. My motorcycle costs me more annuallly.....
It’s all relative.
Good video for those newbies that need an understanding of the REAL cost of goat ownership. BTW, I just put over $9,000 into my 2002 SeaRay to have it ready for this next year.
Thanks ladies. Love the channel and awesome content you put out. Most of all, the spirit you both have in your family business.
I work for a road dept. You don't want to know how much it costs to maintain the equipment that we use to maintain the roads. Maintenance is always expensive, but lack of it is far more costly. I'm surprised you don't do your own maintenance though. Here in WA State, most decent sized marinas have places you can store your boat while you do maintenance. I'd imagine you have places like that down in FL. Be far cheaper. There will always be things that are better handled by a pro, but things like the 100 hour service or fiberglass repair can easily be DIY.
Great video, but you two have a ‘benefit’ most recreational boat owners don’t enjoy. Because your boat is a business asset, you can write down the repair costs as business expenses. Anyway, thanks for the useful content cheerfully and enthusiastically presented.
Very sorry for all of yalls experience on the boat. God bless and love y'all my friends
Hello from twins and fellow TH-camrs!
We have a boat called “ twin force”.
Just wanted to give you both a big shout out. Great job 👏
So, if you are strongly thinking abut the Intrepid is on its way out or soon to retire, what boat would you replace it with if money was not an issue, or in reality what boat would you have within your budget consideration?
I've owned a number of boats in my life, so I'm very familiar with the costs to own. I found your experiences to sound so familiar to mine that I think I'd be afraid to hear what I've spent on maintenance and service.
Have you considered just getting to the bottom of the trim issue and then selling while it still is running correctly? - once a motor blows up you’re going to take a huge hit on sale price unless you have it’s addressed before hand which again is more good money into it. I’d unload while both engines are running and you have the trim issue fixed completely. You’ve got a wonderful channel which you’ve worked hard to build. Frankly I’d consider treating yourselves to a new boat sooner rather than waiting for something to go really wrong with this one. Its an investment in yourselves. You’ve earned it. Cash out while you can. - best wishes.
Great advice.
I wish i had more older dudes giving me solid advice when i was in my 20s. Would have saved me a lot of trouble and pain.
Good news is it's an Intrepid. Bad news it needs a repower. My opinion if you repower it'll sell faster but will not recoup the repower cost. In this market I'd say try to sell as is for 4-6 months and see...
I don't know much about boats but i've been pondering on the idea of getting one. i am scared of the cost of maintenance.. If i just want a basic center console for fishing in the open bay in Chesapeake would it cost as much, I wonder. If you don't love the boat then i'd vote for trading in for your dream boat since this is what you do for living. Who knows what adventures that will bring in? maybe going to Bahamas will be a regular thing then? whatever decisions you guys make, all the best! Happy new year, hope its even better than the previous ones. cheers!
Dear Am and Em - Thank you for this vid. Sobering look at boat ownership. Given most gas stations now have 10% ethanol in their gasoline (increasing risk of water contamination and breakdown of parts in the fuel line), would you consider doing a video about all the ways you can protect your motors when using any kind of gas w/ E10?
Use Rec 90....the end.
@@HVASEA Would love to regularly use REC-90. However, no place around me has it. Maybe I just have to move somewhere w/much warmer weather and cleaner fuel. haha. I've been looking into fuel stabilizers, periodically replacing the fuel/water sep canister, and just not letting E10 sit in the tank very long. Star Tron seems to be one of the better fuel conditioners/stabilizers.. I welcome input from anyone who has found some functional alternatives.
@@TobinGeorgeWashington I use Sta Bil Fuel stabilizer ...I use it in my portable generators when not in use. Seems to work well.
Am in newyork where things are way way expensive more than Florida. I fix everything on my boat from re powering to uplostry my side panels . The marina hates my guts because all the gets from me is the slips and land storage fee. Then again I am not rich I love boating fishing it my hobby . I seen mechanics here in New York replace trim pumps on outboard when they know it not the pum , and the list goes on. And girls that boat looks great chane the motor oil on schedule don't over Rev them uncall for and they will last for ever. Good luck .
Good illustration of the old adage Break Out Another Thousand. I never realized the terrm was literally true. 😳
Wow I fix everything on my boat thanks to God. Owning a boat is not cheap. Plus I have i o not outboard but I'd I should own any outboard the same would apply I fix my own . Great review girls..
i have a new lund angler wintrize only $1300 with shrinkwrap thats oil change gas filter change stabler in the gas
pressure wash and waxed then the storage is $200 a month 16 ft 50 hp angler boat payment 190 a month
**PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS JUST ME, BUT, LISTENING TO DARCI & PUDDIN FROM DARCIZZLE OFFSHORE, BOAT REPAIRS IN FLORIDA ARE >>>OUTRAGEOUS
more than likely you have a relay to trim going bad, i see that about 100 times a year, as far as motor for trim being locked up without looking at it personally Im very skeptical that trim motor was the issue as the same motor drives up and down if motor was "locked up" it wouldnt go up either, the trim tab repair the parts not to bad a price but really capped you on labor, i could install a new set on any boat including cut out for a double rocker switch in 3/4 hour to 1 hour at the most, when working at the sea ray plant in oxford MI back in the 80s it took less than 15 minutes to completely install a set of bennet tabs on a boat granted the boat was not fully assembled at that point but I have been a marine technician for 28 years and never has it taken over an hour on ANY boat to install a complete set tabs, cylinders, pump, wires and switch,to replace just the motor/hydro tank, That is a 20 minute job tops on the most hidden trim motor assembly. as far as prices go its not a fair comparison between where i am in Northern Michigan to your area of Florida (100 hr service) seemed extraordinarily high, depending on what was done some things to take apart on salt water boats vs fresh water can take lots of time ( ex: gearcase removal to replace a water pump impeller) id sure like to know what they perform for a 100 hr service.
the most expensive 100 hour service we do here would be on a big block I/O which includes oil/filter change, gear lube change, grease zerks, compression test, depending on type of spark plugs usually replace those during comp test ( fishing boats here troll low speeds a lot) carb models adjust carb(s) efi hook to computer read any codes reset service, check boat electrical and inspect / check fitting,screws bolts etc, remove propellers grease the splines and remove any fish line etc, check anodes, hull, bottom pain, and that service runs around 450 to 500 parts and labor. outboards are generally much less. Im very fortunate to be able to run/ own old boats i can get cheap and make very reliable because I can perform any repair needed myself,
P.S. Love your videos, as a person planning to move to Florida next year i was trolling youtube to find information and techniques to targeting certain types if fish, ( Tuna, Dolphin, Snapper) my experience salt water fishing was living around Tampa area in the early 80s for a few month fishing the causeway for sea trout and sheepshead and a one time trip on a party boat out of clearwater grey snapper fishing in 2004 so hats off to you ladies for teaching me tons much appreciated.... John
Time for a new boat? Great thing is used boat values are sky high. Problem is boat prices are sky high haha. You two are smart and I’m sure you’ll make a great decision when the time comes.
Of you have a good haul, put a couple of Suzuki’s and you have a nice boat to charter for a 1/3rd of the cost of a new boat!
To replace a 33 footer 200,000. Plus 60 to repower
You need some big time sponsors and buy a new boat versus dumping money in a old boat. You should cover the fuel cost in running a boat. You should also tell people buying a boat is worse than buying a new car. Compare the cost of buying a boat to renting a boat.
Love the Gale’s. Keep up the good content, very interesting. Happy New Year’s
Every penny I invest into my boat is worth it. There is nothing more valubale then spending money on your passion especially when it earns you money.
I would love to have that hull for a project! When you get ready let me know.
Sell it while it is running. Get what you can and move on. If you wait till it blows you will not get much for it.
I pay that for 1 engine here in Texas. Just had it done in June.
A full rewire probably would solve most of your problems. I dont think the motors are even necessarily bad and probably worth keeping esp after the cowlings were painted. It pays to know a little bit about motors. the yamahas are simple motors so when things break alot of times its a quick fix like a replaceable fuse , harness etc. your motors probly wont just blow up anytime soon if youve gotten them this far XD unless you stop maintaining them. People have records of getting 7500-10,000 hours out of those yamahas.many people sell their motors as is and finance new motors suzuki has lots of affordable deals but im not sure how the supply is may be backorder.
If I remember correctly, at the time this video was published, there were pretty severe and ongoing supply chain issues on Yamaha engine parts. My neighbor in the Keys is a fishing captain and was telling me about the tight availability on parts.
I have a 2022 sea hunt ultra 219. Took about 6 months to get it only has 4 hours in the engine. I also have trim tabs
I ordered mine back in September, how do you like it?
@@zachkohler5954 I love the boat it will get up and move. it takes waves like nothing at the lake. I have the 150 on the back.
Why did you get rid of the wrap? I'm not saying you should or shouldn't have.. I'm just curious why you got rid of it.
Having been a boat owner this is my definition of a boat, "a hole in the water that you throw your money into". Don't get me wrong I loved boating but that is the way it is.
Yep - someone once told me the BOAT stands for: Bring Out Another Thousand ($) but ask me if I regret it.
I'm no expert, but I think you got screwed on your trim issue. If the trim motor was locked up, then you wouldn't be able to trim up. I would have guessed it would just trim down via gravity meaning you just had a bad (stuck) pressure release valve. I could easily be wrong and it does power down or the valve could be part of the motor and not replaceable without replacing the whole motor. Surely it doesn't have a separate motor for up and down.
We were using a 1958 Evinrude on our wooden Lyman in 1997! Ran like a champ! It probably still is, somewhere.
So, how much of thesr repairs are you writing off on taxes because it's a business? Because that's how you boat for a lot less.
You guys are a smart team, you should be doing most of your own maintenance.
Boat maintenance is not Rocket science, especially with the help of TH-camrs.
By the way, Yamaha parts are way over priced, there are many after market parts for a fraction of the price, same part just doesnt say yamaha...Im no cheapskate, just dont blow cash if you dont have to....Just sayin.
I would love to own a boat as soon as I move to Florida.
Can you tell me if there is a school where can I go to learn all that is needed to be able to run my boat?
Thanks
Don't take this the wrong way, but I suspect you're overpaying because either you don't know better or someone is taking advantage of you. Do your own maintenance and get a trailer, it will pay itself off in a few years and is useful if you've got to pull out for a hurricane. Learn to do your own maintenance, it will save you a load of money. Consider going to get your Yamaha maintenance certification, classes will cost you between 2500 and 5000, and take up to 3 weeks. Afterwards, register as a Yamaha repairman under a business, then buy your parts (even full new motors) at dealer cost direct from Yamaha.
Looking forward great 👍 boat 🛥 fixing up boat 🛥 hope happy new year 2022 all best ❤️
With all due respect I subscribe to the ostrich budget. Putting my head in the sand and not wanting to keep track of $$$. On Lake Erie between dockage & storage for a 42 Express I am at $8000 before I put a drop of fuel in for the season. I am one not to skimp on maintenance and upgrading depending on the season I spend another $5000-7000/per year. Mechanical attention is yearly be it engine, generator, batteries, trim tabs, prop attention. Bottom paint every other season above the toe rail gets detailed every other below the toe rail get waxed every other season. Not a cheap lifestyle.
The best boat to play in is your friends. Lol. Always remember to pitch in for gas bait etc! Keep the vids coming twins!
PUT HYDROLIC FLUID IN UR TRIM MOTORS AND IT SHOULD WORK GREAT
Maybe it would be better to have than a single-engine boat. The price would be around 50% less (would it? I guess.), but if the engine goes down somewhere on the sea far from the land then that can be a serious issue. It's a huge amount of money... Look like it's a money pit I mean I'm watching from my perspective I'd be using my boat like maybe 1 month per entire year at most and the rest it would just be standing on land waiting... Guess there is no calculation of me ever owning the boat. I've heard that Suzuki motors are the most reliable while Yamaha has expensive parts... Anyway... if you had a trailer would that change anything I mean you could do a lot on your own but do you have that much time? Then you need to buy tools too. And then you're playing a mechanic instead of spending quality time on the sea. I see It's hard when you want to cut the expenses down. Look like they just don't go down below 1k every time you visit the maintenance. I never understood why are boats so expensive? Much more than cars! And all plastic more or less. :/
How do you retire a boat? Does someone take the parts and scrap the rest?
You guys are awesome…. What boat is your dream boat….?
you guys should repower to some 300 Suzuki or 300 Yamahas
You need to work on getting a boat mechanic in the family ;)
Until I reach retirement age (I’m 33 now) I’ll settle for paying for guides / trips of party boats like the capts / gulfstar. Ownership would be too much.
MERRY CHRISTMAS GIRLS AND HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT NEW YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!
Every one that has owned a boat knows that it stands for break out another thousand
Nice video Emily and Amanda. I wanted to know your opinion on this. I live in NJ and I have a 2001 Aquasport Explorer walk around. I bought the boat in February 2013 and it had 163 hours on. Now eight years later, it only has about 360 hrs on it. The boat is operated in fresh and salt water and has had regular maintenance done on it. However, I haven’t used the boat anywhere near where I thought I would have. I know you guys cannot tell the future but what is your opinions on what has more effect on the boat, the low hours or the 20 year age? I’m a whole lot older you both and cannot really see myself buying another boat; however, I am not ready to sell this boat. What do y’all think?
With low hours and older age, your biggest issue is going to be seals wearing on the motor. Electrical issues with corrosion.
A newer boat with more hours won't have those issues but more wear and tear problems
@@muddpuppy07 I appreciate your reply. This is something I’ve been thinking about a little bit more lately because if my motor went, I would have to decide to either rebuild or buy a new motor. But even with a new motor, I still have a 20 year old boat.
@@tokyobosco I am in the process of rebuilding a 93 proline 230 center console. I know I will have more in the boat than it is worth but to buy something new or even only a few years old I will still be paying less for my project. The old thinking of value of the boat to the cost of repair is starting to go to the way side and become what is the replacement cost compared to repair cost.
@@muddpuppy07 My Aquasport is pretty simple. I’m not willing to spend the money on a new boat. I’m just going to keep using what I have, do my maintenance and hope for the best.
And that's why Boat stands for Bust Out Another Thousand.
Slip fee’s ? Insurance, etc ?
B.O.A.T. = Break. Out. Another. Thousand. LOL. Great video.
Dumbest comment in the boating world. Har. Har. Like none of us have heard it.
I'm thinking an Invincible is in your near future. Maybe the same one you took to the Bahamas?
As a boat owner for over 25 years I totally understand you have to decide to either keep the boat and repower or sell it. As a mechanic I get to save a lot of money because I repair everything on my boat. After listening to you explain how the trim only worked in one direction I knew it wasn't the electric motor because it would not have worked at all. My boat is also a 2005 and I repowered before the motor became a money pit the good thing about that is you can easily sell older outboard motors while there still running. Potential buyer can demo the motors at least it may cover part of the bill like taxes etc. Lol well good luck and I enjoy your videos keep up the great work
I bought an 05 Boston Whaler 305 Conquest in 2018 for my offshore fishing boat. I Just repowered it last year with twin 350 Verados, I sold the old motors, 05 Verado 250s with 1500 hours plus the rigging. I also got all new simrad electronics and added radar, along with many other upgrades. It’s a great hull for fishing here in South Florida.
audio in this video was really hard to hear. had to crank up my volume button
You can repower the boat with newer engines not exactly 2022's...just a thought..
yea for 20k can find a nice pair of engines instead of dumping 10k in these
Skeevatz... The word you were looking for to describe the engines.. yeah, Skeevatz.. XD
So what is the dream boat then?
What brand of shorts do y’all wear on the boat? I have trouble finding good boat shorts. (Btw, y’all inspired me to get my 6 pack this year! Doing my Masters in January!)
Congrats!! That’s amazing ☺️ we wear Aftco shorts or Huk
It sounds like they sold you a new trim motor when you needed a switch or wire harness.
They really ripped you off on those trim motors 😅900 in parts 🤣
I will save you the hassle. I will come get that boat from ya'll and save you the headache of trying to get rid of it!.... Great videos keep up the good work!
Hobby's definitely cost money. If it is your job it is a tool . Any business is always repairing tools . It sucks but hopefully it is making more money than it cost to use it
It think 😂you might want to date a marine mechanic and I not one but if you have to fix so much that would have a big befit you girl deserve way better then 126,000 subscribers there nobody else that has the same Integrity as these two girls do if it was too ever have a little one it grate to know that there is really people that are responsible and Respectable to the younger views and please people if you have never subscribe to there channel I hope you will because it see a future were more important things are at stake and you can walked away from your screen knowing that you’re not going to have to wonder what being said I live by the same spirit
@GaleForceTwins dream boat? get a catamaran like the stanzfam. that's one nice boat they got.
May I suggest you don't wait until an engine goes. They will fail at the worse time or condition and then it could be a matter of life or death.
I agree plus the resale or trade in will be better with 2 running engines
What resources did you use to learn filming and editing videos?