I've been using this exact setup for around 8 months now, and I can confidently say that it's kinda bad. For context: - GTX 1070 - i5 9400F - 16 GB of DDR4 - Using NixOS unstable branch (rolling-release branch) in my flake (have tried running stable as well) - Proprietary Nvidia drivers (tried both the latest release and the stable release) Here are some issues I've encountered: 1. Shit breaks, and it breaks all the time. Well, sometimes it doesn't work in the first place. Every update is a gamble. Will it break? What will be the issue this time? Is it a NixOS issue? A Hyprland issue? A Wayland issue? An Nvidia issue? Some combination of the above? The worst part is that you're just left there waiting until the next commit which, hopefully, will fix your issue, which is different every time. Sure, you could roll back to the stable commit if you're using overlays, but it doesn't always work and it's a pain the in the ass. 2. The gaming performance is atrocious. Awful input delay and constant flickering issues. 3. Random miscellaneous issues, e.g. flickering, stuttering, input delay, crashes, etc. I installed XFCE alongside Hyprland a few weeks ago for gaming purposes, but over the last few days I've been using XFCE exclusively, and I've had no issues doing anything. NONE. You could give Hyprland a try, sure. But I have, and I'm a bit underwhelmed to say the least.
@@sher1x165 that main problem was basically that I constantly experienced problems and didn't know what exactly caused them. I am currenly using this exact setup, but I have tweaked some environment variables and everything seems to work decently, but not as well as KDE on Wayland.
This was an awesome overall loook at hyprlands current state. When it comes to day to day use I dont really notice a difference between hyprland, gnome, and kde.
I can't believe Wayland is finally fixed, i'm using it right now, Steam and everything are perfect, better than X11 in some ways. I never thought I would see the day
@@MumblingHugo hey buddy , i was going to sleep but search about this and found your video. I will surely see this in morning But can you help me i am trying to run hyprland on nvidia but its using intel integrated card and even i can share screen in google meet Too much problem tried every possible solution Please help me out brother I am using ARCH
I'm thinking the same thing because I already have the setup with Endeavour OS, but I need to see how long it will take me to go through the major fix list, and how to make the comparison visible enough for people to understand. Probably doing it this weekend and see if I can catch the trend.
GNOME is just the bigger project therefore more optimizations which means more FPS in games since more people try them in GNOME as compared to Hyprland.
Gaming for me on AMD GPU was fine when I had one before, but in general my issue with AMD is that it needs additional tinkering for obs studio, I'd probably go with either nobara or PikaOS, as they both have optimization for AMD GPU
Driver 555 fixes all flickering on wayland, I am running hyprland as daily driver and also have KDEplasma installed for gaming with HDR, I have both installed at least until HDR on hyprland, running on arch btw Edit: I have no issues switching between hyprland and plasma
@@julioau gamescope right now is broken under 555, it crashes when games detect certain inputs, Nvidia made a comment on one of the forums, I don't remember if it was on nvidia page but it was from one of the official Nvidia accounts quote: 'we broke gamescope with an oversight on the 555 build, but it will be fix for 560 stable', so you either deal with wayland flickering 550 driver or deal with no working gamescope for 555 driver, pick your poison
@@korigun I have an Nvidia GPU that supports 555, but for some reason, Optimus makes everything work all the time, no issues at all and I can verify that it's running things on the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel one... Though that behaviour makes no sense to me, Optimus should only complicate things further... Anyways, on another note I recently uninstalled the driver and I'm getting 7+ hours of battery life on an i7 7500U and a 42Wh battery, which I find impressive :D
It's really interesting. I recently installed Sway on my laptop running OpenSUSE with an Nvidia GPU to see if I'll get a better experience gaming on Wayland. I look like it's a "Yes" compared to my default DE - KDE. But I still experienced glitches while playing games (still an issue on Wayland + Nvidia driver). I hope to see the next driver 555.xx on OpenSUSE soon. If possible, can you do benchmarks on Sway vs. Hyprland vs. another DE on Wayland?
great video I am thinking of going fully Linux gaming with friends is the only thing that holds me back. Even if there is a 5% loss in performance I will switch
It depends on what games you want to play with your friends, I had no issues playing last epoch recently, Linux was loading new maps faster on my PC compared to theirs on Windows
I can't wait for the new video about the state of Nvidia + Hyprland + NixOS, especially in terms of daily usage and your workflow!
I've been using this exact setup for around 8 months now, and I can confidently say that it's kinda bad.
For context:
- GTX 1070
- i5 9400F
- 16 GB of DDR4
- Using NixOS unstable branch (rolling-release branch) in my flake (have tried running stable as well)
- Proprietary Nvidia drivers (tried both the latest release and the stable release)
Here are some issues I've encountered:
1. Shit breaks, and it breaks all the time. Well, sometimes it doesn't work in the first place. Every update is a gamble. Will it break? What will be the issue this time? Is it a NixOS issue? A Hyprland issue? A Wayland issue? An Nvidia issue? Some combination of the above? The worst part is that you're just left there waiting until the next commit which, hopefully, will fix your issue, which is different every time. Sure, you could roll back to the stable commit if you're using overlays, but it doesn't always work and it's a pain the in the ass.
2. The gaming performance is atrocious. Awful input delay and constant flickering issues.
3. Random miscellaneous issues, e.g. flickering, stuttering, input delay, crashes, etc.
I installed XFCE alongside Hyprland a few weeks ago for gaming purposes, but over the last few days I've been using XFCE exclusively, and I've had no issues doing anything. NONE. You could give Hyprland a try, sure. But I have, and I'm a bit underwhelmed to say the least.
@@minecraftpufferfish9066 So the main problem was basically how GTX 1070 worked on Hyprland(Wayland)?
@@sher1x165 that main problem was basically that I constantly experienced problems and didn't know what exactly caused them. I am currenly using this exact setup, but I have tweaked some environment variables and everything seems to work decently, but not as well as KDE on Wayland.
@@minecraftpufferfish9066 so now you're using Hyprland again?
This was an awesome overall loook at hyprlands current state. When it comes to day to day use I dont really notice a difference between hyprland, gnome, and kde.
I can't believe Wayland is finally fixed, i'm using it right now, Steam and everything are perfect, better than X11 in some ways. I never thought I would see the day
Haha, me too
@@MumblingHugo hey buddy , i was going to sleep but search about this and found your video.
I will surely see this in morning
But can you help me i am trying to run hyprland on nvidia but its using intel integrated card and even i can share screen in google meet
Too much problem tried every possible solution
Please help me out brother
I am using ARCH
Thanks for these tests
i highly suggest make a video about nvidia 555.xx drivers, it solves a lot of issues in Linux desktop enviroments.
I'm thinking the same thing because I already have the setup with Endeavour OS, but I need to see how long it will take me to go through the major fix list, and how to make the comparison visible enough for people to understand. Probably doing it this weekend and see if I can catch the trend.
Thank you very much! So useful for me!
I wonder why hypr is slower than gnome. I would've thought it would be lighter.
I was surprised when the numbers were out, but I think hyprland will pass x11 gnome very soon
GNOME is just the bigger project therefore more optimizations which means more FPS in games since more people try them in GNOME as compared to Hyprland.
offtopic but what's the best linux distro for gaming on amd? i tried endeavouros and it had lots of issues for me
Gaming for me on AMD GPU was fine when I had one before, but in general my issue with AMD is that it needs additional tinkering for obs studio, I'd probably go with either nobara or PikaOS, as they both have optimization for AMD GPU
Driver 555 fixes all flickering on wayland, I am running hyprland as daily driver and also have KDEplasma installed for gaming with HDR, I have both installed at least until HDR on hyprland, running on arch btw
Edit: I have no issues switching between hyprland and plasma
And what about using gamescope?
I'm using the same setup now on endeavour, no flickering found
@@julioau gamescope right now is broken under 555, it crashes when games detect certain inputs, Nvidia made a comment on one of the forums, I don't remember if it was on nvidia page but it was from one of the official Nvidia accounts quote: 'we broke gamescope with an oversight on the 555 build, but it will be fix for 560 stable', so you either deal with wayland flickering 550 driver or deal with no working gamescope for 555 driver, pick your poison
@@korigun I have an Nvidia GPU that supports 555, but for some reason, Optimus makes everything work all the time, no issues at all and I can verify that it's running things on the Nvidia GPU instead of the Intel one... Though that behaviour makes no sense to me, Optimus should only complicate things further... Anyways, on another note I recently uninstalled the driver and I'm getting 7+ hours of battery life on an i7 7500U and a 42Wh battery, which I find impressive :D
wow someone is doing benchmarks now
It's really interesting. I recently installed Sway on my laptop running OpenSUSE with an Nvidia GPU to see if I'll get a better experience gaming on Wayland. I look like it's a "Yes" compared to my default DE - KDE. But I still experienced glitches while playing games (still an issue on Wayland + Nvidia driver). I hope to see the next driver 555.xx on OpenSUSE soon.
If possible, can you do benchmarks on Sway vs. Hyprland vs. another DE on Wayland?
I've been trying 555 on hyprland in endeavor this week, no flickering anymore but some minor issues when switching between hyprland and plasma
@MumblingHugo thank you for your answer. 😃
great video I am thinking of going fully Linux gaming with friends is the only thing that holds me back. Even if there is a 5% loss in performance I will switch
It depends on what games you want to play with your friends, I had no issues playing last epoch recently, Linux was loading new maps faster on my PC compared to theirs on Windows
minecraft java on linux work faster than on windows
Really didn't expect gnome to win considering how bloated it is. Maybe window managers excell on ram limited systems...
Me neither, I was surprised when the numbers were out, but I think hyprland will pass x11 gnome very soon