i am the guy who ran hyprland on a palm-sized laptop btw. not only it can record with OBS, it also can compile the entire Linux kernel (i compile my BORE-enabled kernel on this nugget lmao)
what REALLY was difficult regarding Hyprland is making it run on Gentoo with Nvidia card. i still have visual artefacts when using blur and systray doesn't wanna work. these nuggets work just fine, they're what Hyprland and minimal distros like Arch were made for
@@miraibenya I used hyprland with an Install script made for Fedora. Not based at all, lol. I didn't find any issue using my Nvidia card. Except that steam didn't work, but it randomly started working again.
@@nxb00 You just mentioned things that use x11, what's your point? You want me to list all the distros using Wayland avd every Wayland server and tiling manager? Reply again when you have a coherent argument please 🙏
@@ThompYT bro u just said that everyone has moved to wayland, and i basically refuted your statement by saying there are still a shit ton of people using x11 as a daily driver, especially nvidia users
@@nxb00 you didn't show "a shit ton" of people. actually you never talked about people AT ALL. And as an Nvidia user for all these years, I'd love to be enlightened as to why Nvidia users must be on x11?
Re Firefox, I'd guess that the browser was launching in Xwayland rather than natively. Tends to be a pain that way. There's some backend variable you can set to avoid that -- or I could be wrong, of course. I've been daily driving Hyprland for ~a year at this point, it's gotten a lot better over time. At this point I'm more worried about what will happen when Vaxry inevitably burns out.
@@TaronArts someone who uploads bring your own class content, a doom mod, if you watch his old (not so old) videos you can see that they are from bring your own class
I really like how Hyprland looks, I love the smooth animations it has everywhere, but I'm stuck with a Debian-based distro, and getting Hyprland to work there is not easy.
the Firefox lagging was true, mine was running slow like a trash when its freshly launched (the hyprland session) but apparently it will run normally when i close and open again the firefox but it tooks like 1 or 2 mintues waiting on the home page until it optimized and run properly (sometimes when i waiting i just hovering my cursor over the shortcut at the home page and it cause the firefox crashed). at that point i gave up using firefox on hyprland and just use brave
I had the mouse issues in Doom (I think every source port I tried actually), and some quake ports too. I'm using Hyprland on Fedora now and the problem is gone. No idea what Fedora does differently.
Been dailying hyprland since when they moved to aquamarine. It will even run on a single core AMD Sempron 3200+ from the mid 2000s. Never noticed mouse not working in gzdoom's (🤢) menus. Only use arrow keys for it tbh. Might be a fullscreen related thing. I usually toggle fullscreen off and on when gzdoom (🤢) has issues which is basically every time it starts. # toggle maximize window (waybar and border still shows) bind = $mainMod, E, fullscreen, 1 # toggle fullscreen window (completely full screen) bind = $mainMod SHIFT, E, fullscreen, 0 Haven't noticed the firefox thing, usually run brave or librewolf.
@new_simsons Radeon Oland XT. Its a R5 340X or something like that. The single slot gpu that got shoved into SFF Optiplex and Pro/Elitedesk office PCs around 2012.
I used to challenge myself to only use my linux on my school laptop in the (summer) Holliday, it was so easy I decided to switch to dailying linux on it. As someone who's in a school where plugging in an external drive confused everyone around you, it was funny as hell to boot linux in front of my less tech-savvy friends
Curious my computational machine operating on my Wayland server implementation of choice exhibits exemplary performance through flawless operating needs.
The only issues I have had on my Cachy install w/ Hyprland is related to having an Intel GPU. Sorta hate that floating WM have been ruined for me as a result of how nice Hyprland is.
I use nix, and it works on my machine 'flawlessly'. Hyprland is nice, it has its kinks, but I figure that these only point me to things I misconfigured. Also, I think stuff is too quickly deprecated as you update, but it forces you to update your config so you don't run into issues later on. Now with how comfortable I'm with hyprland I don't see me switching away anytime soon.
Well mostly ready And wayland itself is way better then xorg, the only problem is how fu**ing long every protocol, even the most important ones, need to be implemented in wayland
Any mouse control on games that require locking it (like FPS games, but many just try to lock the mouse for the sake of it) won't work on hyprland most of the time, unless you lock the mouse to the window with window rules, I just use gamescope on theses games with --force-grab-cursor and problem solved without custom settings for the game
Yea. I have no clue about Firefox. Same thing happened on my laptop. It would make my output 30fps if it was on screen and I was on the low power govenor. It just fixed itself after a month
wow, looks like wayland is getting to the usability state xorg was in 2001, only 15 more years of development and I'm sure everything will work on it! Jokes aside, it's amusing to see the comments of people claiming its ready for daily driving, the last time I checked nvidia GPUs (85% of PC GPU marketshare) didnt work and screen recording also didn't work... and they are working on this thing since 2010 I think... I'm begging suspect that wayland issues arent with the tech stack but with the people - apparently the core devs are the same people who drove x11 into a state of unmaintainable piece of s
you baiter hahaahaha you *knew* what you were doing with that "every piece of software has good documentation" and you mentioned awesome wm in the video, too!! the sheer comedy
@@Axlefublr look up the documentation for bspwm. It's basically one man page. Well. A man page for that and one for sxhkd. That and look up dwm's. To me it's actually a little better than bspwm. But not by much. If we are talking stuff outside of window managers. I've ran into programs that basically have no documentation at all. But that's cheating a bit I think.
4:10 "Now I have a nice rice" Nothing against your webdev skills, but the UI designer in me is disappointed at all the random margins, paddings, and non-matching borders. Very disappointed indeed.
I promise you. no every piece of software definitely doesn't have good documentation. If you think that you've just been lucky so far. 😆like dwm, not great. and bspwm is somehow even worse. Then you have non window manager stuff, that just straight up has nothing. Or sometimes, you will find documentation that is just so complex unless you are someone at the same level of knowledge as the person that coded the software, it's basically meaningless to you. really the only window manager I can think of that has documentation on the same level as hyprland, is I3, then qtile, and awesomewm, but those are a good bit more technical.
I don't really understand this perspective tbh. I've been gaming on Sway for years with zero issues. Xwayland is totally user-transparent; old apps "just work" I have to assume that folks like you are just repeating truisms without testing them for yourselves. edit: also remember that whatever obscure X feature that your workflow depends on was also probably an extension to X. It has 30 years of bolted on features. Wayland protocol extensions are in the process of being written to fill functionality gaps where they exist
i am the guy who ran hyprland on a palm-sized laptop btw. not only it can record with OBS, it also can compile the entire Linux kernel (i compile my BORE-enabled kernel on this nugget lmao)
what REALLY was difficult regarding Hyprland is making it run on Gentoo with Nvidia card. i still have visual artefacts when using blur and systray doesn't wanna work. these nuggets work just fine, they're what Hyprland and minimal distros like Arch were made for
@@miraibenya I used hyprland with an Install script made for Fedora. Not based at all, lol. I didn't find any issue using my Nvidia card. Except that steam didn't work, but it randomly started working again.
yeah, I'm keeping the hyprland setup on my chromebook because there aren't any issues on it other than the fact the storage is tiny (16 gigabytes)
2:54 “every piece of software has good documentation” oh boy….
I meant to say "should have good documentation" lol
*Cries in NixOS*
It's not that bad once you get used to it... It being reading the source code.
@@RC-14 LMAOOO
@@RC-14story of my life, can't say I hate it though this shit is more addictive than crack
i was about to say exactly this lmfaoo
Wayland often feels like 17000 different edge cases held together by sheer spite tbh
That issue you had with zdoom, happens with Star Citizen when running under Wayland.
Wayland soon im coming for you!!!
i swear give me only like 20y more before i can say Good bye to X11!!!
crazy cause everyone already moved to wayland like 3 years ago
@@ThompYT many people still use x11 tiling managers, xfce, linux mint, or simply opt for x11 instead of wayland, idk what are you talking about man
@@nxb00 You just mentioned things that use x11, what's your point? You want me to list all the distros using Wayland avd every Wayland server and tiling manager? Reply again when you have a coherent argument please 🙏
@@ThompYT bro u just said that everyone has moved to wayland, and i basically refuted your statement by saying there are still a shit ton of people using x11 as a daily driver, especially nvidia users
@@nxb00 you didn't show "a shit ton" of people. actually you never talked about people AT ALL. And as an Nvidia user for all these years, I'd love to be enlightened as to why Nvidia users must be on x11?
Re Firefox, I'd guess that the browser was launching in Xwayland rather than natively. Tends to be a pain that way. There's some backend variable you can set to avoid that -- or I could be wrong, of course. I've been daily driving Hyprland for ~a year at this point, it's gotten a lot better over time. At this point I'm more worried about what will happen when Vaxry inevitably burns out.
Scath: Complains about Macs
Also Scath: Using a Mac
lol true
(tbh the 2012 macbook is just a thinkpad in apple clothing it has all the ports and is repairable)
@@ScathIsVibing but where is the nipple? how can one live without the nipple?
Yeah, I'm definitely giving it a try while installing Arch btw on my ancient Thinkpad.
holy cow, byoctuber having edited content (good video btw :3)
thanks :3
@@ScathIsVibing You're welcome, I hope you really grow, I love your content
@@TaronArts someone who uploads bring your own class content, a doom mod, if you watch his old (not so old) videos you can see that they are from bring your own class
I really like how Hyprland looks, I love the smooth animations it has everywhere, but I'm stuck with a Debian-based distro, and getting Hyprland to work there is not easy.
there are dynamic tiling packages for i3 available on aur
I really love Hyprland but Unreal Engine doesn't work with Wayland :(
I have to switch back to normal KDE Plasma.
the Firefox lagging was true, mine was running slow like a trash when its freshly launched (the hyprland session) but apparently it will run normally when i close and open again the firefox but it tooks like 1 or 2 mintues waiting on the home page until it optimized and run properly (sometimes when i waiting i just hovering my cursor over the shortcut at the home page and it cause the firefox crashed).
at that point i gave up using firefox on hyprland and just use brave
brave actually was crashing for me, on three different installs
that's so brave
im using hyprland for a year now and i switched through multiple firefox based browsers and never had any problems
I had the mouse issues in Doom (I think every source port I tried actually), and some quake ports too. I'm using Hyprland on Fedora now and the problem is gone. No idea what Fedora does differently.
UMMMM ACHTULLY ITS A PROTOCOL
Been dailying hyprland since when they moved to aquamarine. It will even run on a single core AMD Sempron 3200+ from the mid 2000s.
Never noticed mouse not working in gzdoom's (🤢) menus. Only use arrow keys for it tbh. Might be a fullscreen related thing. I usually toggle fullscreen off and on when gzdoom (🤢) has issues which is basically every time it starts.
# toggle maximize window (waybar and border still shows)
bind = $mainMod, E, fullscreen, 1
# toggle fullscreen window (completely full screen)
bind = $mainMod SHIFT, E, fullscreen, 0
Haven't noticed the firefox thing, usually run brave or librewolf.
I saw this and found that you can do it like this
bind = $mainMod, F, fullscreen, toggle
that way you only need one bind for fullscreen
What's your gpu you used with that Sempron?
@new_simsons Radeon Oland XT. Its a R5 340X or something like that. The single slot gpu that got shoved into SFF Optiplex and Pro/Elitedesk office PCs around 2012.
I used to challenge myself to only use my linux on my school laptop in the (summer) Holliday, it was so easy I decided to switch to dailying linux on it. As someone who's in a school where plugging in an external drive confused everyone around you, it was funny as hell to boot linux in front of my less tech-savvy friends
Huh, so that's why my screen stopped tearing while using i3, I thought the drivers were just beign goofy
Curious my computational machine operating on my Wayland server implementation of choice exhibits exemplary performance through flawless operating needs.
The only issues I have had on my Cachy install w/ Hyprland is related to having an Intel GPU. Sorta hate that floating WM have been ruined for me as a result of how nice Hyprland is.
I use nix, and it works on my machine 'flawlessly'. Hyprland is nice, it has its kinks, but I figure that these only point me to things I misconfigured. Also, I think stuff is too quickly deprecated as you update, but it forces you to update your config so you don't run into issues later on. Now with how comfortable I'm with hyprland I don't see me switching away anytime soon.
2:30 The fact that this is my old wallpaper that I used on Windows 11 and that I switched to Manjaro, which is the os used in this rice, is crazy O_O
5:55 so I have the exact same menu issue with pizza tower, it just won't recognize inputs from my mouse/keyboard
windows vista jumpscare
wayland is ready for daily driving, surely KappaChungusDeluxeMaximus
Well mostly ready
And wayland itself is way better then xorg, the only problem is how fu**ing long every protocol, even the most important ones, need to be implemented in wayland
I enjoyed this yapping video.
Using hyprland daily on CachyOS and fedora for a year without issues. It's ready Freddy.
Any mouse control on games that require locking it (like FPS games, but many just try to lock the mouse for the sake of it) won't work on hyprland most of the time, unless you lock the mouse to the window with window rules, I just use gamescope on theses games with --force-grab-cursor and problem solved without custom settings for the game
inb4 this channel explodes
Brutal Doom enjoyer.
The same thing happened in blender for a while for me
I know like nothing about Linux. The only words I understood was Wayland and KDE Plasma, but Epic.
i use kde wayland because i am mostly a normal person
iirc wofi is still unmaintained unfortunately :(. I wonder when a breaking change would cook it
In b4 this channel explodes
Amazing video
the fact this dude only has 200 subs, genuinely thought he had 10k+
hi fellow protogen
lol the logo looks like a noose. maybe its a sign
Hyprland is good but wayland isnt perfect yet. im sticking with i3 until its developed a bit more.
Honestly, i3 mogs hard asf
Yea. I have no clue about Firefox. Same thing happened on my laptop. It would make my output 30fps if it was on screen and I was on the low power govenor. It just fixed itself after a month
why do you pronounce 'config' like 'cumfig?' i'm not trying to be rude i just find it funny
honestly idk I talk weird throughout the entire video lol
CUM-fig
wow, looks like wayland is getting to the usability state xorg was in 2001, only 15 more years of development and I'm sure everything will work on it!
Jokes aside, it's amusing to see the comments of people claiming its ready for daily driving, the last time I checked nvidia GPUs (85% of PC GPU marketshare) didnt work and screen recording also didn't work... and they are working on this thing since 2010 I think...
I'm begging suspect that wayland issues arent with the tech stack but with the people - apparently the core devs are the same people who drove x11 into a state of unmaintainable piece of s
yo, do a tutorial on ricing hyprland
Regarding the firefox slowness, did you add the env variable for firefox and wayland?
do u concider it?
Oh hey, is that the early 2012 macbook pro?
yes it is
@@ScathIsVibing I have that lol
Now my question is: Did you have any problems with streaming on Discord or using Discord in general while playing games?
2k views and 37 subscribers is crazy
you baiter hahaahaha you *knew* what you were doing with that "every piece of software has good documentation"
and you mentioned awesome wm in the video, too!! the sheer comedy
idk what I was thinking with that lol
awesomewm really isn't that bad compared to some stuff I've seen.
@@_BLANK_BLANK oh god my condolences over whatever you have seen 😵
@@Axlefublr look up the documentation for bspwm. It's basically one man page. Well. A man page for that and one for sxhkd.
That and look up dwm's. To me it's actually a little better than bspwm. But not by much.
If we are talking stuff outside of window managers. I've ran into programs that basically have no documentation at all. But that's cheating a bit I think.
it works on my machine
hyprland is cool
prootIsVibing
Did you go back to using sway or something?
hyprland is mid. river is the best dynamic tiling wayland compositor
Hyprland is based
why not sway?
Nou animutions waghh
@@mineral9gang swayfx?
as a linux user, you dont need a mouse to use linux
4:10 "Now I have a nice rice"
Nothing against your webdev skills, but the UI designer in me is disappointed at all the random margins, paddings, and non-matching borders. Very disappointed indeed.
yappatron
drop your userchrome css for ff king
👍
i user arch btw
ur video is cool but u have no idea how much i hated u calling ur 99% default hyprland a rice
I promise you. no every piece of software definitely doesn't have good documentation. If you think that you've just been lucky so far. 😆like dwm, not great. and bspwm is somehow even worse. Then you have non window manager stuff, that just straight up has nothing. Or sometimes, you will find documentation that is just so complex unless you are someone at the same level of knowledge as the person that coded the software, it's basically meaningless to you.
really the only window manager I can think of that has documentation on the same level as hyprland, is I3, then qtile, and awesomewm, but those are a good bit more technical.
lol true
nah it BROKEY
Stop shilling wayland. Gaming is still xorg only for the most part. Just saying.
I don't really understand this perspective tbh. I've been gaming on Sway for years with zero issues. Xwayland is totally user-transparent; old apps "just work"
I have to assume that folks like you are just repeating truisms without testing them for yourselves.
edit: also remember that whatever obscure X feature that your workflow depends on was also probably an extension to X. It has 30 years of bolted on features. Wayland protocol extensions are in the process of being written to fill functionality gaps where they exist
please don't make yap a real word
Hello! Nice video! :D
I subbed. Small Tubers stick together!