42 years retired. I've seen many contracts under Democrat and Republican administrations. When will the people get it. Politicians care nothing, nothing about the working man. As long as they can keep the people distracted they continue to get richer and richer.
Your Union doesn't care about the working man either, only your dues and their leadership power. Maybe Union members should quit and try a new career instead of threatening the US economy with a strike. Plenty of people are available to replace them, probably at a much lower cost.
@@sgtbender1335 Better Not Start a Family as well as Uncle Pete! My cousin just started with Uncle Pete and he said his class on day one had 20 new hires and two weeks later only four of them remain….four of them including my cousin,everyone else quit 😂 people are starting to see through their BS….I feel a change for the better is coming…..it’s going to have to!
I have left the industry for personal reasons and some things I did not agree with when it came to management approach. This truly shows who is actually empowered and how the rail labor is heavily overworked and undervalued
Most definitely overworked and under value it’s easier said than done to just quit and leave for some It’s ridiculous no one cares I left the rail industry also good luck being re-elected Joe Just makes me sick to my stomach
I got hired on at UP in April. I passed all the test and all my rides. During training I was told I would need a TWIC card to go into the plants. I was told that I would be reimbursed the 125.25 for the cost of the card. I put in a ticket to be reimbursed and was denied. I quit because I won’t work for someone that doesn’t hold up their end. I would like to know how much it cost to train me for the 4 months and all the per diem they paid just to lose an employee over $125.
@@25mfd yea, when I asked a coworker why they think it was denied, he told me you gotta fight to get everything they owe you. They won’t willingly do it.
I can't believe I have to tell you this the conductors didn't vote this down, we approved it 50.8% to 49.2% it was the switcnmans group that overwhelmingly voted it down which I don't blame them.
I wasn’t provided the entire breakdown of who voted what. I just noticed that under the conductor role it was basically 50/50. That’s interesting. I appreciate the info Mike. Makes more sense now for sure
It all depends on how you’re unionized. I’m a conductor under the BLE-T. We just barely passed it. In my experience as a Veteran, leave NOTHING in Congress hands you don’t want Fed up!!!
@@K9ONU Did it really make a difference if congress is giving you/them (conductors) the TA anyways, nope. They got the same regardless if they voted YES or NO lol... For a 'veteran' you sure seem like a FNG always see your dumb takes on these videos and in comments. Also a conductor in BLET when UTU holds your contract and agreements lol.
Man I’m not sure honestly. Time will tell. If things slow down bad enough furloughs will happen but with the mass resignations i feel are coming could help a lot of new guys out when the old heads leave
@@isitbowseason it's only a matter of time until you get on one and someone has heated up a fish taco in it and the whole cab will smell like a fish market on a summer day😂😂😂
And the AAR has though of this. We do that and then they cry to Congress that they have no choice but to run 1 man crews. And Congress gives it to them. Long game achieved by the Railroads.
Not that easy because I long standing rule is that engineers do not have to work as conductors if they were called as engineers and no engineer is qualified to work remotely
Everybody has to understand that the unions survive on dues so a mass resignation will also effect them so if there is any movement they will scare you out of it read the different laws that pertains to the railroad industry be safe my friends
Because Biden is a globalist puppet & he'll do anything to please his globalist overlords. In other words he doesn't give a f*** about any of you & willing to start WW3.
We should have went on strike before when we had the momentum and support of non railroaders. The unions should not have backed down, now we look greedy and weak.
Greedy and weak to the misinformed or uninformed. But in reality we all know who’s to blame for all of this. I’ll do everything in my power to help inform the public x
The RR has always been this way though even before Hi-Viz or similar policies you basically spent most of your life away from home but you had at least a week to layoff each month 5 weekdays and 2 weekend days until Hi-Viz came out. Countless times many of us been trapped at hotels 200 miles from home for upwards of 50 hours. If thats what scared you or worried you then you shouldn't have hired on at a RR especially if you have any kind of responsiblities like having custody of kids on certain weeks/weekends as that will be very impossible/impractical since you wont be on a set scheduele job any amount of time being new.
@@Railroad_Talk Well thats what I mentioned awhile back and he said the same thing, you'll fly up the seniority board faster than ever and max out your pay cap as well very quickly.
@@suffer8318 I'm more worried about not being able to leave once I'm in, not exactly staying away from home but just the accountability and liability they want you for
The house is voting on the agreement today with one amendment made the agreement for 7 paid sick days. It will be a Yay or Nay vote on the sick days then forwarded to the Senate.
@@not-sure8131 yes 7 is better than 1... or NONE... i hired on in 93... back then there were none... if you took off you just took the hit... and that's IF they even let you layoff... the same old line was, "we don't have any men"... if we all had a nickel for every time the caller said that... LOL
And what of the many conservative senators that voted this into law? I dont consider myself a fan of biden by any means but hes not the only one to blame here.
Um, I don't think you understand the gravity of a strike. The stores in your area will have a more limited supply of food, and the supply chain will be frayed. I've talked to railelroaders who have said they will only THREATEN to strike, and a strike wouldn't last for two days, maybe even one. I don't pretend to know these things. I have some contacts in the industry.
@@208Railfanning idaho boy ehh?? Me too. Right by the MRL interchange. Anyways, this country needs a reset, and a complete shutdown would be the way it's gotta happen. I'm ready for a while without going to the store or town for supplys. This corruption has to stop, people need to raise against the bull and quit if strike is blocked. Crap would happen then
Why not make all railroad workers salaried and give them a better schedule that way they can be home more and the rail roads aren’t on the hook for the OT
Don't worry we will shut em down during Xmas though whole thing IA smoke an mirrors the fact that we havnt been allowed to strike shows where loyalty lies in green backs
Kinda weird how covid doesn't go away until the last minute for railroad contracts. Had this been 6 months ago, we'd have had a ground to stand on. Now this is being forced down our throats, I wouldn't expect less than to hear about covid again
Let's hope that whatever happens if anything the people know the importance of trains and the people who operate them. Its easy to take for granted what you see in a grocery store, or a gas station, because nobody thinks of how hard people worked to get the stuff there. From factory workers, truck drivers, ship workers, pilots, and railroad employees, they all work as a team to move goods from factories to their final destination. Everyone needs to know that the less labor they have, the higher the prices of goods will be. You can say what you want about Joe Biden, but since the start of his presidency it was clear he was not a man of the economy
I’m sure he would have, I don’t get political I’m just talk about what’s happening here and now. If trump was in office I would be saying the same thing. I’m very consistent on criticism idk what side of the bird they’re on.
I'm sure Trump would have done the same thing but that's the problem with Biden is the fact that before the election he specifically said he was on our side and he betrayed us!!
Your unions are holding it up. Before I left for training in November I didn't make too much less than CSX conductors at 100% and I made more than NS. Y'all union should have not been trying to ride the wave of other unions getting great contracts. I saw how someone in the railroad tried parent a nurse's contract to that of a railroad of what the railroad should get people in the railroad don't work doubles people in the railroad don't work 16 hours shifts and they haven't went to school for 4 years plus with a degree. Yeah they laid off too many people with PTC but the railroad is not the only field needed workers. I'll tell you this you can tell in class half will quit as want instructor said. But nobody should be starting off with 15 sick days on top of weeks vacation 👀🤫. I've never started with more than 3 also try working 19 days to get 2 off. Too much complaining but wanting more for less work
Aww man, I was hoping everything was gonna be all hunky dory…I know I’m gonna roll some eyes, but I wanted to join since I worked at ITS out in KC: as a Chassis Mechanic. Whenever I spoke with Conductors/Engineers on the NFS side I always heard good things. I mean, it was back in 2014, but still-now…I’m not so sure…
42 years retired. I've seen many contracts under Democrat and Republican administrations. When will the people get it. Politicians care nothing, nothing about the working man. As long as they can keep the people distracted they continue to get richer and richer.
th-cam.com/video/GpWJ0BXzdtg/w-d-xo.html ...and it's not just Biden
Your Union doesn't care about the working man either, only your dues and their leadership power. Maybe Union members should quit and try a new career instead of threatening the US economy with a strike. Plenty of people are available to replace them, probably at a much lower cost.
@kenp.32 an you just hit why unions are important. Your job can be replaced with someone who will do it cheaper
Everything the Federal Government Touches gets Royally Trashed. 🤪👎
Completely let down by this. Complete BS. I definitely agree with you.
Let’s go Brandon! This is ridiculous! You know it’s bad when any company is offering a 20K signing bonus
Who's offering that?
@@sgtbender1335 Better Not Start a Family as well as Uncle Pete! My cousin just started with Uncle Pete and he said his class on day one had 20 new hires and two weeks later only four of them remain….four of them including my cousin,everyone else quit 😂 people are starting to see through their BS….I feel a change for the better is coming…..it’s going to have to!
There are trucking companies offering $20,000 sign on bonuses as well.
@@TexasAlabamaBoi205 Ah, I hear you. Well I am currently happily employed, but I know a few people who might be interested. Thanks 👍
@@sgtbender1335 Nah,tell them to stay where they’re currently employed……especially if they have kids and/or a family.
Just think in 2 more years we're going through the same thing over again
They were who we thought they were
STRIKE!!!
I have left the industry for personal reasons and some things I did not agree with when it came to management approach. This truly shows who is actually empowered and how the rail labor is heavily overworked and undervalued
Most definitely overworked and under value it’s easier said than done to just quit and leave for some It’s ridiculous no one cares I left the rail industry also good luck being re-elected Joe Just makes me sick to my stomach
th-cam.com/video/GpWJ0BXzdtg/w-d-xo.html ...its not just Biden
Railroad workers are scared to strike and that's the bottom line. They still being taught its 1950 and you have to get permission.
That is true, it’s not a fight if you’re not willing to risk anything.
FJB ! And his administration !
how come on ns or csx why does a up lead a ns train sometimes
So, is now a bad time to try to get in? I have an interview with CN Tuesday morning.
Dumb question.
IMO no, now is a good time.
I got hired on at UP in April. I passed all the test and all my rides. During training I was told I would need a TWIC card to go into the plants. I was told that I would be reimbursed the 125.25 for the cost of the card. I put in a ticket to be reimbursed and was denied. I quit because I won’t work for someone that doesn’t hold up their end. I would like to know how much it cost to train me for the 4 months and all the per diem they paid just to lose an employee over $125.
not surprised at all... ive seen guys claims get denied over 7 bucks for late lunch on yard jobs... 7 stinkn' bucks and the company don't wanna pay it
@@25mfd yea, when I asked a coworker why they think it was denied, he told me you gotta fight to get everything they owe you. They won’t willingly do it.
all these Union Workers are saying why do we need a UNION
I can't believe I have to tell you this the conductors didn't vote this down, we approved it 50.8% to 49.2% it was the switcnmans group that overwhelmingly voted it down which I don't blame them.
I wasn’t provided the entire breakdown of who voted what. I just noticed that under the conductor role it was basically 50/50. That’s interesting. I appreciate the info Mike. Makes more sense now for sure
It all depends on how you’re unionized. I’m a conductor under the BLE-T. We just barely passed it. In my experience as a Veteran, leave NOTHING in Congress hands you don’t want Fed up!!!
@@K9ONU As a conductor under BLET-T your vote means nothing. Smart-TD holds the right to your contract as a Conductor.
@@K9ONU Did it really make a difference if congress is giving you/them (conductors) the TA anyways, nope. They got the same regardless if they voted YES or NO lol... For a 'veteran' you sure seem like a FNG always see your dumb takes on these videos and in comments. Also a conductor in BLET when UTU holds your contract and agreements lol.
@@timrahe
That’s a big negative! For my company and division my vote counts under the BLE-T. Look it up.
Is this recession going to be harmful to New hires early 2023 ?
Man I’m not sure honestly. Time will tell. If things slow down bad enough furloughs will happen but with the mass resignations i feel are coming could help a lot of new guys out when the old heads leave
@@Railroad_Talk yes sir appreciate that !
But we have microwaves on our engines now!
🤣🤣🤣
Ooh the microwaves are nice 👌🏻 😂. Even got peel off the new plastic off of it last week
@@isitbowseason it's only a matter of time until you get on one and someone has heated up a fish taco in it and the whole cab will smell like a fish market on a summer day😂😂😂
Great a microwave in my bathroom
@@dustyj4037 throw that joker out when you hit the mainline 🤣
Park the trains!!!!
Amid chaos and turmoil Americans are encouraged to becoming Biblical Christians.
Like I told rails and trails a mass resignation would be the only way the break the railroads and its not against the law
And the AAR has though of this. We do that and then they cry to Congress that they have no choice but to run 1 man crews. And Congress gives it to them. Long game achieved by the Railroads.
Not that easy because I long standing rule is that engineers do not have to work as conductors if they were called as engineers and no engineer is qualified to work remotely
Everybody has to understand that the unions survive on dues so a mass resignation will also effect them so if there is any movement they will scare you out of it read the different laws that pertains to the railroad industry be safe my friends
FJB
All the wording sounds like the carrier wrote it themselves!!!
Joe Biden forget that unions help him get in the office and he back the company
Unions didn't help Joe. Dead people did.
Because Biden is a globalist puppet & he'll do anything to please his globalist overlords. In other words he doesn't give a f*** about any of you & willing to start WW3.
if its ns railroad
Jojo is completely joke and will lose in 2024
They need to do what the post office did in the 70's, things will change quick, lol. Keep sitting back & they will always have u by the short hairs.
Looks like I’ll miss this. Gonna be on a westbound manifest. It’ll be the first thing I’ll watch tonight though
KEEP WORKING PEASANTS!
-JOE BIDEN
You can always walk off the job anyway no matter what Sleepy Joe does.
True statement...but isn't always that easy. People situations will always be different. 15 to 18 years ...Get that 240 months and get out.
Feels a little like economic slavery
We should have went on strike before when we had the momentum and support of non railroaders. The unions should not have backed down, now we look greedy and weak.
Greedy and weak to the misinformed or uninformed. But in reality we all know who’s to blame for all of this. I’ll do everything in my power to help inform the public x
Congress will act but they going to wait to the last minute so as to stir up as much drama as possible.
Your absolutely right.. and it wouldn't be any different if there was a republican either.. All these politicians are the same..
Bingo! If a Republican was in office My video wouldn’t be any different just change the name from Biden to whoever (trump, Clinton etc)
As someone who just got hired at FNBS I'm scared because my buddy of 40+ years is telling me that you will be rolled down and have no life
Talk to him about all the people that's going to quit and see what his thoughts are. You may move up really quickly once those backpay checks hit lol.
The RR has always been this way though even before Hi-Viz or similar policies you basically spent most of your life away from home but you had at least a week to layoff each month 5 weekdays and 2 weekend days until Hi-Viz came out. Countless times many of us been trapped at hotels 200 miles from home for upwards of 50 hours. If thats what scared you or worried you then you shouldn't have hired on at a RR especially if you have any kind of responsiblities like having custody of kids on certain weeks/weekends as that will be very impossible/impractical since you wont be on a set scheduele job any amount of time being new.
@@Railroad_Talk Well thats what I mentioned awhile back and he said the same thing, you'll fly up the seniority board faster than ever and max out your pay cap as well very quickly.
@@suffer8318 I'm more worried about not being able to leave once I'm in, not exactly staying away from home but just the accountability and liability they want you for
Wildcat strike. It has to happen.
Not enough people have the balls for that
Yep, fricken quit, jail me, I don't care
With NO union leadership and NO unity, you couldn't get 3 guys to pull a wildcat strike! Let alone pull their own pud.
@@shawnkelsea1763 sad state of affairs right there, weak people, weak nation
The house is voting on the agreement today with one amendment made the agreement for 7 paid sick days. It will be a Yay or Nay vote on the sick days then forwarded to the Senate.
7 sick days is how much of an improvement where you work at???... i've heard the carriers only offered 1 paid sick day... rotten bastards
@@25mfd I've been with the railroad for 15 years and 7 is more than we have now. I admit it's not great but still better than zero.
@@not-sure8131 yes 7 is better than 1... or NONE... i hired on in 93... back then there were none... if you took off you just took the hit... and that's IF they even let you layoff... the same old line was, "we don't have any men"... if we all had a nickel for every time the caller said that... LOL
This is nothing new or unexpected…..no accountability, but they try to handle the employee for every single infraction…
I know that’s right victor!
And what of the many conservative senators that voted this into law? I dont consider myself a fan of biden by any means but hes not the only one to blame here.
If an agreement is rammed through there’s going to be a lot of smoke popped when that backpay hits bank accounts.
Oh this is terrible and ridiculous all I can say is re-election time comes around you will not have my vote 🗳
Good one RT. Remember! At UP, Customer service is # 1 at Union Pacific and they care about those Shippers and Consignees! 😆
I want to see you all strike
Um, I don't think you understand the gravity of a strike. The stores in your area will have a more limited supply of food, and the supply chain will be frayed. I've talked to railelroaders who have said they will only THREATEN to strike, and a strike wouldn't last for two days, maybe even one. I don't pretend to know these things. I have some contacts in the industry.
@@208Railfanning i understand the situation. Then people can really open their eyes. I know someone that work for CSX says the same thing.
@@208Railfanning idaho boy ehh?? Me too. Right by the MRL interchange. Anyways, this country needs a reset, and a complete shutdown would be the way it's gotta happen. I'm ready for a while without going to the store or town for supplys. This corruption has to stop, people need to raise against the bull and quit if strike is blocked. Crap would happen then
@@208Railfanning a major collapse of society is gonna happen regardless of railroad strike. The strike would just speed things up.
Not sure if it’ll have the same effect since coronavirus lockdown got everyone used to empty shelves😂
Why not make all railroad workers salaried and give them a better schedule that way they can be home more and the rail roads aren’t on the hook for the OT
not sure if salary would work... especially in unassigned service... in the yard??? maybe
Deeper pockets always win
you got that right
do the cars get to the customer the same day how does that work and do they unload the cars right in the yard
Just like he did to the students in his, 'now you see it, now you don't' student debt relief mirage.
hey joey saw a lotta storms in your area... hope you're doing okay
Yes sir Claud thank you for checking in buddy. I’m doing just fine! Hope you’re doing well also my friend.
@@Railroad_Talk doing good on my end... keep up the good work
Lmao yet they can offer new guys 25k signing to join and get screwed 😂😂😂🤡
Don't worry we will shut em down during Xmas though whole thing IA smoke an mirrors the fact that we havnt been allowed to strike shows where loyalty lies in green backs
F…J…B
No sir.... I dont like it!
All I have to say is go on strike you’ll get what you want stop complaining and do something. Not talking to you rail talk guy.
You talk a lot. Doesn't mean you know a lot.
That's subjective, and if you believe that hey no harm no foul.
Kinda weird how covid doesn't go away until the last minute for railroad contracts. Had this been 6 months ago, we'd have had a ground to stand on. Now this is being forced down our throats, I wouldn't expect less than to hear about covid again
Let's go Brandon ☹️🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃☹️
Let's hope that whatever happens if anything the people know the importance of trains and the people who operate them. Its easy to take for granted what you see in a grocery store, or a gas station, because nobody thinks of how hard people worked to get the stuff there. From factory workers, truck drivers, ship workers, pilots, and railroad employees, they all work as a team to move goods from factories to their final destination. Everyone needs to know that the less labor they have, the higher the prices of goods will be. You can say what you want about Joe Biden, but since the start of his presidency it was clear he was not a man of the economy
like trump wouldnt have done it seriously
I’m sure he would have, I don’t get political I’m just talk about what’s happening here and now. If trump was in office I would be saying the same thing. I’m very consistent on criticism idk what side of the bird they’re on.
I'm sure Trump would have done the same thing but that's the problem with Biden is the fact that before the election he specifically said he was on our side and he betrayed us!!
@@christianidso2576 that is a valid point.
Your unions are holding it up. Before I left for training in November I didn't make too much less than CSX conductors at 100% and I made more than NS. Y'all union should have not been trying to ride the wave of other unions getting great contracts. I saw how someone in the railroad tried parent a nurse's contract to that of a railroad of what the railroad should get people in the railroad don't work doubles people in the railroad don't work 16 hours shifts and they haven't went to school for 4 years plus with a degree. Yeah they laid off too many people with PTC but the railroad is not the only field needed workers. I'll tell you this you can tell in class half will quit as want instructor said. But nobody should be starting off with 15 sick days on top of weeks vacation 👀🤫. I've never started with more than 3 also try working 19 days to get 2 off. Too much complaining but wanting more for less work
What are you talking about?
Dont forget you would not have right to any job protection if left to Republicans.
Aww man, I was hoping everything was gonna be all hunky dory…I know I’m gonna roll some eyes, but I wanted to join since I worked at ITS out in KC: as a Chassis Mechanic. Whenever I spoke with Conductors/Engineers on the NFS side I always heard good things. I mean, it was back in 2014, but still-now…I’m not so sure…