I made some copies of your creek devil lures from copper pipe and I had success with them on a recent trip to Michigan where I caught perch and bass. Thank you for sharing and inspiring us.
Great to hear , this is exactly , why I made these videos . Thanks a lot for your feedback . But these are not my lures , they are just my versions of lures designed by a guy from Cologne/Western Germany named A. Schrader during the late 1940's : raubfisch.de/praxis-und-geraete-alte-eisen-bachteufel-765/ Tight lines , Dieter
+Tom Keir Thanks for your interest and wishing well , I'm glad if I should have been able to provide some help and input to a fellow fisherman ! Greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
Forgot to mention , .....to bend them in a vise you'd need a square hardwood dowel with an approx. 20° wedge on one side , the point left plane for about 3 to 4mm . Fix metal strip vertically in the vise and rest the dowel's wedge side onto vise and lead blunt wedges point against workpiece . Hit rear of dowel with a hammer to bend around bit by bit . To drill attachement holes utilize a center punch to mark hole locations , so no wandering of drill bit can occur . Good luck , Dieter
So this is what you were talking about.... Sweet! I will try to make one out of a spoon handle. I am at war with a huge steelhead trout, he probably took $20 worh of lures already! Either he broke the line or even the lures itself!
those really look good and thick, a good quality spoon! those are nice designs I've tried to make a lure before ,(wooden crank bait style) and it didn't turn out at all! good job and nice video i liked
That bend in the belly causes the action of the lure , ...though it does not wobble or flutter as pronounced like an "ordinary" cupped spoon , it still has a kinda subtle "quiver" to it , also spins around it's center axis on the drop . A spoon without any bends or cupping would not have any of such swimming actions , ...only thing to do with these is to jig them along the bottom or vertically under a boat . And it would not turn them off , ...not at all , .......good luck , Dieter
nice lures,i have been looking into spoons lately since i caught a fish couple days ago on a spoon i made.saw some post on a forum about how to make them and tryed it out.the spoons were real small for fish like perch,crappies,sunfish.very simple to make too
Thanks , .......great to catch fish on homemade lures , ......could you please link that forum to me , since I'm always interested in different spoon models ? Tight lines , Dieter
here's the link www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2725640/Making_your_own_spoons_for_pan .i found a little more simple way to build this lure by using slip sinkers and putting the wire through the hole and smashing it flat.
sgtpavlov Thanks a lot for that link , ......very interesting ,...... your local perch seem to like them , .......seen similar in a local angling magazine years ago , ....one guy there used roofing lead foil folded and glued around a wire form to make up for a somewhat bigger minnow-shaped asp(European predatory fish , member of carp family) lure of about 2" to 2 1/2" length . Merry Chrismas , Dieter
Your welcome ‚ I also have experimented with filling spinner blades with solder for weight and using that as a spoon with added holes for hardware. I tested a small inline blade version already and it has some decent action to it.gonna test it some more. Merry Christmas to you !
sgtpavlov I see , that you like making lures the simple way , ......I have some small Finnish spoons , maybe 1 1/2 " to 2" long , ...a tradional style over there consisting of thin stainless or brass sheet with a layer of lead foil glued or riveted onto it , .....covered with foil , paint and topcoat on the outer , lead-covered side , ....quite heavy lures for their size . Watch them at 1:58 of this video : Lures...Lures...Lures(picture compilation)! Greetz , Dieter
Actually they are quite easy to make from a strip of stainless(brass , copper , steel, 1,5 to 2,0 mm thick) sheet metal or even a suitable handle of an old stainless steel fork or spoon.
It would help Do you have any additional diagram, or information on size , shape, angle / bend on how I can correctly make this lure or what tools to use. I have looked & not been able to find any for sale. That would help a lot Thank you
@@anchovyal3606 Sorry , I do not have , back in the day I've mailordered three lures from someone, who had copied them after vintage originals himself. And I had used pictures from an article in a German angling magazine, that was issued in 2006: raubfisch.de/praxis-und-geraete-alte-eisen-bachteufel-765/ The "Bachteufel" was designed by a tackle shop owner from Cologne named A. Schrader during the late 1940's, during the 1950's and 1960's various companies took over the production, yet it is a very rare vintage lure nowadays. The guy , whom I bought his copies from back in the day , is named Peter Taudor, his contact data was stated in that article : Phone: 0049 6439/353 (from abroad to Germany) Email: zanderpitt@t.online.de But 17 years have passed since, we don't know, whether he is still selling his lures or if he's even still there. Sorry but this is all, I can do to possibly help you. Nevertheless it is not that hard to make such lures, it does nor even require exact measurements, just a rectangular strip of sheet metal of about1:6 width to length ratio is enough. One does not even neccessarely need a front or rear taper to the sheet metal blank and instead of the angled belly one may also bend a smal half circle to make up for the deeper belly(more difficult in my opinion)with the front and rear end slightly pointing upward. A lot may be left to experiment. As far as for the swimming action, the lure would tightly wiggle on retrieve and on the essential, occassional drop during retrieve it falls spinning around it's own length axis(this is, why I like to attach swivels to the front end), an action said to coax trout strikes quite a bit. Best greetings , Dieter
Thanks a lot for sharing the video, spoons seem very well.. Is there any video about how to make these homemade spoon lures ? Also I wish you have more excited and happy fishing..
+Seyit Ersin ŞAHİN Sorry , there is no video about making this particular lure , but they are quite easy to bend in a vise . You'd need strips of stainless steel or brass sheets , about 1.5mm thick , a plastic hammer and an ordinary steel hammer , a vise plus a homemade , small wedge of hardwood or aluminium(roughly like 1.5 X 2.5 X 18 cms , narrowest side has the wedge angle), not quite sharp at the tip and with an angle of about 15° to 20° . Take your metal strip , mark the deepest belly kink with a feltpen , put it in the vise vertically(with the marker line sitting just at upper edge of the vise's clamps)and bend the kink by hand or beats with the plastic hammer . Now mark the kinks forward and behind the belly kink , clamp into the vise in same manner with marker line flush to upper edge of the vise's clamps and place your wedge onto the vice to hit the metal strip right there , use the steel hammer to beat the rear of the wedge to bend the metal strip to the angles like on the lures in the video . You do not have to bother about accurate measurements and angles , ...just "abouts" should do as well ! Bending without such a wedge is hardly possible , because if you'd try to bend the second and third kink by hand , you're likely to bend the first , deepest belly kink straight again ! It is of advantage to leave the metal strip a little longer and cut off either end after ALL bending work is done , this way you would only have to care about proper distances of the kinks to one another and not the relations to the metal strip's ends , .......I find it much easier this way . Finally file or grind the lure's ends round , mark hole locations , use a center punch to make starter indents for your drill bit to find grip and drill holes through . For my own versions here I had used handles of stainless soup spoons , which I had left over from making big pike spoons from the spoon portions , .......saved me from having to cut out metal strips . I hope this helps a little bit , ...thanks a lot for your interest , greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
+61diemai Hello Dieter, thanks a lot for your kind answer and all explanations.. I am going to try to make this Bachteufel spoon when I get all metarials ;) Greetings from Istanbul in Turkey..
+Seyit Ersin ŞAHİN Good luck with your spoon building , .......if you should have further questions , feel free to call back in , ...greetings from Hamburg , Dieter PS : I have some more spoon making videos on my channel , maybe you'd like to check them out ?
Will try to work something out coming weekend , maybe some pics or even a vid , dunno yet , ....... no time before due to my work , .......cheers , 61diemai
thanks for sharing broh!!! I've made one (and a Luhr Jensen Hus-Lure and also a spinnerbite) tomorrow I'm going fishing to do the field test :P Greetings from Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego Argentina!
Oh , great to hear , ....I hope , that your homemades would have worked out well for you , .......nothing better than catching fish on a homemade lure , ......greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
well I have to say that it seems that I couldn't caught de correct angle for the spoon... (this one) but the luhr jensen works great! I'm gonna make some on differents sizes... could you give some measurements for the Bachteufel?? thanks for the answer my friend!
Sorry , but I do not have any exact measurements , please scroll further down within the comments here , there is a 3 years old comment , where I talk about the length/width relation of the spoon . Sadly I had to delete the instructional video mentioned , as I was threatened by TH-cam to have used illegal audio contents(actually it was just a radio playing in the background down my workshop) , and I did not want to get involved into a lawsuit . Also in this video I'm talking about rough sizing , but it is really not that important . To bend the spoon blank in a vise it requires a little , blunt pointed wedge of square or rectangular cross-sectioned hardwood or aluminium , .....you'd set that wedge onto the top of the vise and hit it's rear with a hammer to engage to the vertically clamped metal spoon blank . This way you can clamp the blank by it's two outer ends and furnish the two inner kinks with that wedge , otherwise it would be rather awkward or even impossible to clamp the workpiece without flattening out previously bent kinks , .....make sure , that all the four planes are well aligned and none gets tilted to one side , as this might also cause the lure to spin on retrieve . Once , you'd get the hang of it , it comes quite easy , believe me , ...use standing pictures of this video for reference for the angles , but top notch accuracy is not that important , as long , as all of the four planes of the lure create some kind of a little "belly" ponting downward , as this renders the center of gravity lower to let the spoon swim stable without spinning(should only spin on the drop , not on retrieve). You should definately get some kind of action out of it , experiment with slightly different angles and body relations , ....further down in the comments to this video I had also provided a link to the mentioned German angling magazine about three years ago , you may also check this site for a few more pictures of the "Bachteufel" . Great to hear , that at least your "Luhr-Jensen" -version works well for you so far , ......tight lines ! Good luck and thanks a lot for your interest , Dieter
@ Steve Tilk Thanks for commenting , ...I hope , that your "Bachteufel"- versions would turn out fine and would work well for you ! Tight lines from northern Germany
Have never tried it on other species but those stocker trout in our fishing ponds , ......but might work for zander(European walleye) and European perch (very simliar to your yellow perch), if jigged along the bottom , ..in this case I would rig a single hook to avoid too much snagging . Check out my instructional video about how to make this spoon model , ...it's not that difficult at all , ...greetz , Dieter
jrussell72 That's very interesting to hear, .......I assume , you'd make them somewhat larger and heavier for the surf, ......would be great , if you'd report back , whether they'd work for you in the ocean . Thanks a lot for your interest ,....greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
I like using light tackle... maybe a little heavier since a lot of the times you are casting into the wind and you need to get some good distance on your casts.
Hello buddy, what do you use to cut sheet metal that thick? Your spoons seems to be quite thick, I am wondering what tool you use to cut the sheet metal into small pieces to make the spoons? I am looking into making these spoons myself because I lose a lot of lures every time I go fishing and it is getting expensive! Oh, what do you punched the holes on the spoons with? If I am sounding clueless, sorry about that. I have never made a lure in my life before. I would love watching you make one of these lures in a step-by-step fashion and post it on TH-cam so that I know exactly what to do. What tool did you use to smooth out all the edges and still be able to keep these edges shiny after you cut the spoons? Thanks a lot buddy, your advice is superb and helpful to all the fishermen out there!
Hi ,......I have a few other spoon and spinner making videos out on TH-cam , ...though these are most likely made from picture sequences , they should still answer most of your questions , ......check out my channel , the particular Videos are a bit older , ....like two years or so . th-cam.com/users/61diemaivideos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd Here is another great channel for luremaking , check this out : th-cam.com/users/paulpadam Metal lures are not that easy to make compared to wooden lures , not many people make them , as quite a bit of elbow grease is involved , if not having access to power tools . When interested in making your own lures , you might also join www.tackleunderground.com , lot's of great guys there to help and guide you as a newbie , ....probably meeting you there ? tight lines , 61diemai
Maybe you can use a translator program ? Otherwise , ...if you've got questions , ...feel free to call back in on my TH-cam messenger , ...greetz , Dieter
Sorry , but no exact measurement available , just doing it after estimation , also depending on general size of the spoon . Roughly the flat front portion is 1/6 of the entire length , either shank of the "V" another 1/6 and the flat rear part is the remaining 3/6 of entire length , ...just approximately , not really that important . I have made a "How-To" Video about making these spoons , but one TH-cam user commented below , that it was not available in the USA anymore , guess , because a radio is playing in my workshop whilst I was filming . Check my replies to William Coder down below , in one of the replies mentioning "zanderpitt" is a link to a magazine essay , some more pictures of such lures there . Good luck , Dieter
61diemai If you still have the video would you repost it without the music on? I clicked on the link that leads to the magazine that shows you how to make the spoons, but it is in German. I can't read German because I am an American. Thanks a bunch buddy whether or not you would repost the video. Tight line!
In this case stainless steel sheet, 1,5mm thick , ......but copper or brass sheet works as well , ......check out my tutorial video about making these "Bachteufel" spoons on my channel . Thanks for your interest , cheers , 61diemai
I'm getting my stainless spoons used from fleamarkets , a lot cheaper than shops , but take simple stainless steel only , ...no silver plated spoons and no highly alloyed stainless ones containing good shares of manganese , chrome or molybdenum (the expensive stuff) , first ones are unsuitable and second ones are too hard to work down . Might also check out local scrap metal dealers for copper , brass or stainless sheets , also cheaper than buying at the hardware store or RC model shop . Good luck , Dieter
+Angelsport- Saar Zum Thema Blinkerbau gibt es kaum Literatur , schon garnicht in Deutsch , ....eventuell 'mal Artikel in der Angelpresse .Ich habe auf meinem Kanal zwei Videos über Bücher zum Thema , allerdings wie immer in Englisch , ......ansonsten gibt es in Internet-Foren einige Info zum Thema , z. B. einen Thread im "Anglerboard" , auch auf "MT-Lures" habe ich schon über Blinker gepostet , ...natürlich auch hier auf TH-cam,........einfach 'mal googeln mit Schlagwörtern wie "Blinkerbau" , "Eigenbaublinker" , "spoonmaking" , etc . Gruß , 61diemai
Also check out this site , ....the magazine essay , where I first came across these lures and ordered some from Zanderpitt years ago : www.raubfisch.de/454,765/ Good luck , Dieter
They do not make them anymore , but a German home tinkerer made knock-offs of the old originals for sale , dunno whether he is still selling his creations . Google term "Zanderpitt" to access his site . Good luck , 61diemai
Designed for brown trout in small creeks and rivers , catches stocker rainbows in ponds as well , don't know about other species , ......I think , the lure's limitations only lay in the possible swimming depths , especially in river currents .
Really depends on the size andmaterila thickness you make them , I would say between 6 and 15 grams is possible . Thanks for chiming in , greetings , Dieter
Thanks a lot ,...... if you wanna get hooked on making your own lures(LOL) , check out w-w-w- tackleunderground dot c-o-m(sorry have to disguise the link for TH-cam to transmit it) , .......heaps and heaps of info and input there to guide the way for a newbie in the trade . Good luck , Dieter
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I made some copies of your creek devil lures from copper pipe and I had success with them on a recent trip to Michigan where I caught perch and bass. Thank you for sharing and inspiring us.
Great to hear , this is exactly , why I made these videos .
Thanks a lot for your feedback .
But these are not my lures , they are just my versions of lures designed by a guy from Cologne/Western Germany named A. Schrader during the late 1940's :
raubfisch.de/praxis-und-geraete-alte-eisen-bachteufel-765/
Tight lines , Dieter
thanks, looks like a way to clean out some old tableware....
Good luck with making your own!
Cool looking little spoon. I wonder if they will work for walleye here in Michigan. I may have to try and make a couple.
Tight lines.
Scott
Thank you for sharing this great tip,all the best to you and happy Fishing.
+Tom Keir
Thanks for your interest and wishing well , I'm glad if I should have been able to provide some help and input to a fellow fisherman !
Greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
+61diemai hiy'lpm
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Forgot to mention , .....to bend them in a vise you'd need a square hardwood dowel with an approx. 20° wedge on one side , the point left plane for about 3 to 4mm . Fix metal strip vertically in the vise and rest the dowel's wedge side onto vise and lead blunt wedges point against workpiece . Hit rear of dowel with a hammer to bend around bit by bit . To drill attachement holes utilize a center punch to mark hole locations , so no wandering of drill bit can occur . Good luck , Dieter
So this is what you were talking about.... Sweet! I will try to make one out of a spoon handle. I am at war with a huge steelhead trout, he probably took $20 worh of lures already! Either he broke the line or even the lures itself!
those really look good and thick, a good quality spoon! those are nice designs I've tried to make a lure before ,(wooden crank bait style) and it didn't turn out at all! good job and nice video i liked
That bend in the belly causes the action of the lure , ...though it does not wobble or flutter as pronounced like an "ordinary" cupped spoon , it still has a kinda subtle "quiver" to it , also spins around it's center axis on the drop .
A spoon without any bends or cupping would not have any of such swimming actions , ...only thing to do with these is to jig them along the bottom or vertically under a boat .
And it would not turn them off , ...not at all , .......good luck , Dieter
nice lures,i have been looking into spoons lately since i caught a fish couple days ago on a spoon i made.saw some post on a forum about how to make them and tryed it out.the spoons were real small for fish like perch,crappies,sunfish.very simple to make too
Thanks , .......great to catch fish on homemade lures , ......could you please link that forum to me , since I'm always interested in different spoon models ?
Tight lines , Dieter
here's the link www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2725640/Making_your_own_spoons_for_pan .i found a little more simple way to build this lure by using slip sinkers and putting the wire through the hole and smashing it flat.
sgtpavlov
Thanks a lot for that link , ......very interesting ,...... your local perch seem to like them , .......seen similar in a local angling magazine years ago , ....one guy there used roofing lead foil folded and glued around a wire form to make up for a somewhat bigger minnow-shaped asp(European predatory fish , member of carp family) lure of about 2" to 2 1/2" length .
Merry Chrismas , Dieter
Your welcome ‚ I also have experimented with filling spinner blades with solder for weight and using that as a spoon with added holes for hardware. I tested a small inline blade version already and it has some decent action to it.gonna test it some more. Merry Christmas to you !
sgtpavlov
I see , that you like making lures the simple way , ......I have some small Finnish spoons , maybe 1 1/2 " to 2" long , ...a tradional style over there consisting of thin stainless or brass sheet with a layer of lead foil glued or riveted onto it , .....covered with foil , paint and topcoat on the outer , lead-covered side , ....quite heavy lures for their size .
Watch them at 1:58 of this video :
Lures...Lures...Lures(picture compilation)!
Greetz , Dieter
Thanks and good luck making your own and off course catching on them , too . Tight lines , 61diemai
ok. I have all the tools. I will probably make it on the weekend. I will make a video on it then. Thanks for all the info!
Und gleich eine Forelle gefangen , SUPER !
Dafür wurden die "Bachteufel" vor ca. 60 Jahren entwickelt , ........funzt immer noch,........Gruß , Dieter
Ja, in der Tat , indeed :-) COOL !
Hay I need a creek devil
Actually they are quite easy to make from a strip of stainless(brass , copper , steel, 1,5 to 2,0 mm thick) sheet metal or even a suitable handle of an old stainless steel fork or spoon.
It would help Do you have any additional diagram, or information on size , shape, angle / bend on how I can correctly make this lure or what tools to use. I have looked & not been able to find any for sale. That would help a lot Thank you
@@anchovyal3606
Sorry , I do not have , back in the day I've mailordered three lures from someone, who had copied them after vintage originals himself.
And I had used pictures from an article in a German angling magazine, that was issued in 2006:
raubfisch.de/praxis-und-geraete-alte-eisen-bachteufel-765/
The "Bachteufel" was designed by a tackle shop owner from Cologne named A. Schrader during the late 1940's, during the 1950's and 1960's various companies took over the production, yet it is a very rare vintage lure nowadays.
The guy , whom I bought his copies from back in the day , is named Peter Taudor, his contact data was stated in that article :
Phone: 0049 6439/353 (from abroad to Germany)
Email: zanderpitt@t.online.de
But 17 years have passed since, we don't know, whether he is still selling his lures or if he's even still there.
Sorry but this is all, I can do to possibly help you.
Nevertheless it is not that hard to make such lures, it does nor even require exact measurements, just a rectangular strip of sheet metal of about1:6 width to length ratio is enough.
One does not even neccessarely need a front or rear taper to the sheet metal blank and instead of the angled belly one may also bend a smal half circle to make up for the deeper belly(more difficult in my opinion)with the front and rear end slightly pointing upward.
A lot may be left to experiment.
As far as for the swimming action, the lure would tightly wiggle on retrieve and on the essential, occassional drop during retrieve it falls spinning around it's own length axis(this is, why I like to attach swivels to the front end), an action said to coax trout strikes quite a bit.
Best greetings , Dieter
Thanks a lot for sharing the video, spoons seem very well.. Is there any video about how to make these homemade spoon lures ?
Also I wish you have more excited and happy fishing..
+Seyit Ersin ŞAHİN
Sorry , there is no video about making this particular lure , but they are quite easy to bend in a vise .
You'd need strips of stainless steel or brass sheets , about 1.5mm thick , a plastic hammer and an ordinary steel hammer , a vise plus a homemade , small wedge of hardwood or aluminium(roughly like 1.5 X 2.5 X 18 cms , narrowest side has the wedge angle), not quite sharp at the tip and with an angle of about 15° to 20° .
Take your metal strip , mark the deepest belly kink with a feltpen , put it in the vise vertically(with the marker line sitting just at upper edge of the vise's clamps)and bend the kink by hand or beats with the plastic hammer .
Now mark the kinks forward and behind the belly kink , clamp into the vise in same manner with marker line flush to upper edge of the vise's clamps and place your wedge onto the vice to hit the metal strip right there , use the steel hammer to beat the rear of the wedge to bend the metal strip to the angles like on the lures in the video .
You do not have to bother about accurate measurements and angles , ...just "abouts" should do as well !
Bending without such a wedge is hardly possible , because if you'd try to bend the second and third kink by hand , you're likely to bend the first , deepest belly kink straight again !
It is of advantage to leave the metal strip a little longer and cut off either end after ALL bending work is done , this way you would only have to care about proper distances of the kinks to one another and not the relations to the metal strip's ends , .......I find it much easier this way .
Finally file or grind the lure's ends round , mark hole locations , use a center punch to make starter indents for your drill bit to find grip and drill holes through .
For my own versions here I had used handles of stainless soup spoons , which I had left over from making big pike spoons from the spoon portions , .......saved me from having to cut out metal strips .
I hope this helps a little bit , ...thanks a lot for your interest , greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
+61diemai Hello Dieter, thanks a lot for your kind answer and all explanations.. I am going to try to make this Bachteufel spoon when I get all metarials ;) Greetings from Istanbul in Turkey..
+Seyit Ersin ŞAHİN
Good luck with your spoon building , .......if you should have further questions , feel free to call back in , ...greetings from Hamburg , Dieter
PS : I have some more spoon making videos on my channel , maybe you'd like to check them out ?
Will try to work something out coming weekend , maybe some pics or even a vid , dunno yet , ....... no time before due to my work , .......cheers , 61diemai
thanks for sharing broh!!! I've made one (and a Luhr Jensen Hus-Lure and also a spinnerbite) tomorrow I'm going fishing to do the field test :P
Greetings from Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego Argentina!
Oh , great to hear , ....I hope , that your homemades would have worked out well for you , .......nothing better than catching fish on a homemade lure , ......greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
well I have to say that it seems that I couldn't caught de correct angle for the spoon... (this one) but the luhr jensen works great! I'm gonna make some on differents sizes... could you give some measurements for the Bachteufel?? thanks for the answer my friend!
Sorry , but I do not have any exact measurements , please scroll further down within the comments here , there is a 3 years old comment , where I talk about the length/width relation of the spoon .
Sadly I had to delete the instructional video mentioned , as I was threatened by TH-cam to have used illegal audio contents(actually it was just a radio playing in the background down my workshop) , and I did not want to get involved into a lawsuit .
Also in this video I'm talking about rough sizing , but it is really not that important .
To bend the spoon blank in a vise it requires a little , blunt pointed wedge of square or rectangular cross-sectioned hardwood or aluminium , .....you'd set that wedge onto the top of the vise and hit it's rear with a hammer to engage to the vertically clamped metal spoon blank .
This way you can clamp the blank by it's two outer ends and furnish the two inner kinks with that wedge , otherwise it would be rather awkward or even impossible to clamp the workpiece without flattening out previously bent kinks , .....make sure , that all the four planes are well aligned and none gets tilted to one side , as this might also cause the lure to spin on retrieve .
Once , you'd get the hang of it , it comes quite easy , believe me , ...use standing pictures of this video for reference for the angles , but top notch accuracy is not that important , as long , as all of the four planes of the lure create some kind of a little "belly" ponting downward , as this renders the center of gravity lower to let the spoon swim stable without spinning(should only spin on the drop , not on retrieve).
You should definately get some kind of action out of it , experiment with slightly different angles and body relations , ....further down in the comments to this video I had also provided a link to the mentioned German angling magazine about three years ago , you may also check this site for a few more pictures of the "Bachteufel" .
Great to hear , that at least your "Luhr-Jensen" -version works well for you so far , ......tight lines !
Good luck and thanks a lot for your interest , Dieter
Great tip get to try this lure.
Even spoons are costing too much nowadays
Thanks a lot for chiming in , ...hope , your versions would work out fine for you ! Greetings , Dieter
Excellent tip, vielen Dank! Greetings from Sweden
Thanks a lot , ...here is a video about how to make such spoons :
Making a "Bachteufel" trout spoon
Tight lines , 61diemai
61diemai Thats great, thanks friend! I will try to make some sweet ones..
just saw the Bachteufel spoons, very easy to make , all good
awesome video. You inspired me to try to create my own version. It won't be as good but I have to try.
@ Steve Tilk
Thanks for commenting , ...I hope , that your "Bachteufel"- versions would turn out fine and would work well for you !
Tight lines from northern Germany
Thank you for sharing , shall do some and try them for trout
Thanks for chiming in , good luck with these lures !
Greetings , Dieter
Have never tried it on other species but those stocker trout in our fishing ponds , ......but might work for zander(European walleye) and European perch (very simliar to your yellow perch), if jigged along the bottom , ..in this case I would rig a single hook to avoid too much snagging . Check out my instructional video about how to make this spoon model , ...it's not that difficult at all , ...greetz , Dieter
I'm going to try a couple of these surf fishing in Texas. Thanks for the video.
jrussell72
That's very interesting to hear, .......I assume , you'd make them somewhat larger and heavier for the surf, ......would be great , if you'd report back , whether they'd work for you in the ocean .
Thanks a lot for your interest ,....greetings from northern Germany , Dieter
I like using light tackle... maybe a little heavier since a lot of the times you are casting into the wind and you need to get some good distance on your casts.
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OK ,......good luck with your own versions ,....greetz , Dieter
Hello buddy, what do you use to cut sheet metal that thick? Your spoons seems to be quite thick, I am wondering what tool you use to cut the sheet metal into small pieces to make the spoons? I am looking into making these spoons myself because I lose a lot of lures every time I go fishing and it is getting expensive! Oh, what do you punched the holes on the spoons with? If I am sounding clueless, sorry about that. I have never made a lure in my life before. I would love watching you make one of these lures in a step-by-step fashion and post it on TH-cam so that I know exactly what to do. What tool did you use to smooth out all the edges and still be able to keep these edges shiny after you cut the spoons? Thanks a lot buddy, your advice is superb and helpful to all the fishermen out there!
Hi ,......I have a few other spoon and spinner making videos out on TH-cam , ...though these are most likely made from picture sequences , they should still answer most of your questions , ......check out my channel , the particular Videos are a bit older , ....like two years or so .
th-cam.com/users/61diemaivideos?shelf_id=1&view=0&sort=dd
Here is another great channel for luremaking , check this out :
th-cam.com/users/paulpadam
Metal lures are not that easy to make compared to wooden lures , not many people make them , as quite a bit of elbow grease is involved , if not having access to power tools .
When interested in making your own lures , you might also join www.tackleunderground.com , lot's of great guys there to help and guide you as a newbie , ....probably meeting you there ?
tight lines , 61diemai
61diemai
Thank you buddy, I will start collecting some tools to help me in the lure-making process and look into the club to see what it's all about.
Thanks this be verry useful I have to fresh up on my German since I haven't spoke it or read it in a long time lol
Maybe you can use a translator program ? Otherwise , ...if you've got questions , ...feel free to call back in on my TH-cam messenger , ...greetz , Dieter
And I would use paint markers to draw the design on it.... would that work? I don't have any stickers.
ok thanks! I will try to make it today
How deep of a V do you bend in these? I am guessing 6mm maybe 8mm ? Also how wide the gap of the V? Great Video Thanks!
Sorry , but no exact measurement available , just doing it after estimation , also depending on general size of the spoon .
Roughly the flat front portion is 1/6 of the entire length , either shank of the "V" another 1/6 and the flat rear part is the remaining 3/6 of entire length , ...just approximately , not really that important .
I have made a "How-To" Video about making these spoons , but one TH-cam user commented below , that it was not available in the USA anymore , guess , because a radio is playing in my workshop whilst I was filming .
Check my replies to William Coder down below , in one of the replies mentioning "zanderpitt" is a link to a magazine essay , some more pictures of such lures there . Good luck , Dieter
61diemai
If you still have the video would you repost it without the music on? I clicked on the link that leads to the magazine that shows you how to make the spoons, but it is in German. I can't read German because I am an American. Thanks a bunch buddy whether or not you would repost the video. Tight line!
In this case stainless steel sheet, 1,5mm thick , ......but copper or brass sheet works as well , ......check out my tutorial video about making these "Bachteufel" spoons on my channel . Thanks for your interest , cheers , 61diemai
OK , ......good luck , ...hopefully you're gonna catch bigger trout than myself , LOL !
Good luck with that !
Thanks. I am headed to the city to find some metal of proper size.My wife caught me looking at her spoons in the kitchen ......
I'm getting my stainless spoons used from fleamarkets , a lot cheaper than shops , but take simple stainless steel only , ...no silver plated spoons and no highly alloyed stainless ones containing good shares of manganese , chrome or molybdenum (the expensive stuff) , first ones are unsuitable and second ones are too hard to work down .
Might also check out local scrap metal dealers for copper , brass or stainless sheets , also cheaper than buying at the hardware store or RC model shop . Good luck , Dieter
Wo bekommst du den deine Ideen her? Gibts irgendwo Bücher?
+Angelsport- Saar Zum Thema Blinkerbau gibt es kaum Literatur , schon garnicht in Deutsch , ....eventuell 'mal Artikel in der Angelpresse .Ich habe auf meinem Kanal zwei Videos über Bücher zum Thema , allerdings wie immer in Englisch , ......ansonsten gibt es in Internet-Foren einige Info zum Thema , z. B. einen Thread im "Anglerboard" , auch auf "MT-Lures" habe ich schon über Blinker gepostet , ...natürlich auch hier auf TH-cam,........einfach 'mal googeln mit Schlagwörtern wie "Blinkerbau" , "Eigenbaublinker" , "spoonmaking" , etc . Gruß , 61diemai
yep they are permanent waterproof paint markers
Provided that your markers do hold waterproof ink , .....it should !
very good good tips
+robbie roche Thanks a lot !
Will do thanks
Also check out this site , ....the magazine essay , where I first came across these lures and ordered some from Zanderpitt years ago :
www.raubfisch.de/454,765/
Good luck , Dieter
My g pop had the same ones . Where can I get them at ?
They do not make them anymore , but a German home tinkerer made knock-offs of the old originals for sale , dunno whether he is still selling his creations . Google term "Zanderpitt" to access his site . Good luck , 61diemai
Nice for all trout fish?
Designed for brown trout in small creeks and rivers , catches stocker rainbows in ponds as well , don't know about other species , ......I think , the lure's limitations only lay in the possible swimming depths , especially in river currents .
What are the weight of those lures?
Really depends on the size andmaterila thickness you make them , I would say between 6 and 15 grams is possible .
Thanks for chiming in , greetings , Dieter
thumbs up ;)
Thank you !
those are some boot leg ass lures lol haha
Thanks a lot ,...... if you wanna get hooked on making your own lures(LOL) , check out w-w-w- tackleunderground dot c-o-m(sorry have to disguise the link for TH-cam to transmit it) , .......heaps and heaps of info and input there to guide the way for a newbie in the trade . Good luck , Dieter
The fabrication video is blocked in the US
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