@@wolffur1 ... Musk is more interested in colonizing Mars. SpaceX launches the Starship heavy launch vehicle in April 2023. NASA has found vast underground glaciers on Mars so there is water. Russia is losing it's space program due to the Ukraine War. Japan just lost their heavy lift rocket system due to an engineering flaw. SpaceX has a near monopoly on rocket launches in the West.
It's fast and aced the infamous Moose handling & rollover test. This is going to be fun to drive. Can hardly wait to get mine: 250 mile, Full solar-assist, AWD,
@@KG3three Obviously, it's an educated guess. Note how much effort is placed on "engineering changes", "cool features", TH-cam "transparency", and "invest in Aptera" urgings. But how clear is your understanding of their business and manufacturing paths? I've been around long enough to have seen this sort of hype-biz before. Good luck to all you dreamers - where would capitalism be without you?
@@camplethargic8 "educated" I'm not sure youre if youre one of them on this topic. Maybe. Sure there are many companies that come along and it takes analysis beyond the surface like you're doing. Maybe they're different but you wouldnt be the one to do the due diligence to see that. Good luck to all you superficial analyzers- where would investors and venture capitalists be without you?
For Bolt range: I highly recommend getting 12v seat heaters. Most range loss is from heating the cabin air, which goes straight out the windows. We get almost full range in winter with our Bolt, wearing coat hat and gloves.
@@shanefiddle I can operate my Jeep in near arctic conditions and the heater in a Jeep is brutally powerful. BTW, if you don't heat the windows they quickly cover with frost when it's colder than 15 degrees F.
It doesnt go to 50%. The battery warms up as you use it and you can even preheat the battery, store the vehicle in a modestly inulsated garage, etc. The 50% range loss is temporary like a gas car it's temporary until it warms up (albeit a ICE will warm up faster and become efficient. Takes twice as long in a drive EV to warm up.)
1000 mile goal he was clearly looking away from the camera. He doesn't believe it. the 25 kWH battery will likely reach the 250 range. 45 kWH battery will reach 400 mile range. See that extra 5kWH? It's to help move around nearly double the amount of battery weight. A 1000 mile range will likely require a 120 kWH; that's a lot of weight. In comparison a Model 3 Long Range (~310 mile range) has a ~74 kWH battery. What I think they can achieve easily is 900 miles with 100 kWH battery. She'll be heavy for the Aptera's body structure and the springs on the wheels will need to be adjusted or replaced for the weight but it could it. I'm making a wild guess that it will be $55,000 for the 900 mile range Aptera first shipping in late 2026. Are my assumptions above correct or similar to yours?
Same here! But now I learned that one cannot buy directly nor can they deliver directly to New Jersey? So, what am I supposed to do? Have them deliver to a friend in a neighbouring state?
@@fanfare100 I have the same issue in Iowa, but I will be going to the factory to pick mine up and will drive it back. I want to visit with some of the people I met the first time, meet some of the others, and have some more questions answered that I probably will have to ask in person.
I'm personally wondering about Nathan Armstrong's estimate of Aptera floating in its CPC BINC form. I have not doubt his statements regarding the 'honeycomb' Aptera's ability in the water (floating) but it is now CF and may not be 'sealed ' in the same manner. We'll have to see about floating a little further along.
Not sure it's a good idea to drive it in water. The water will likely still leak through the door seals which go pretty far down the body. Plus because of the sweeping under belly it will likely tilt really far backwards in water.
Fun and excellent video! Aptera could change the entire U.S market. Let's hope in the future they can afford to open a larger production facility in the southeastern US to keep their costs down.
I need an off road version. Nothing too serious but I live half an hour down a dirt highway that gets a lot of loging trucks and equipment every day. It would be perfect out here if I thought it could survive the road. Obviously the performance would suffer and I doubt there are enough people like me to make it worthwhile doing right now. I might have to get one and see what happens. Maybe it's more capable than I think. Maybe change the tires?
@@TruthSeeker9038 The off road will be delayed. However, I often drive on gravel roads here in Iowa. When I pick mine up, I will be reporting on how the standard version performs in places like Death Valley. Stay tuned.
@@TruthSeeker9038 Unless Elaphe has production issues, I don't think the AWD will be much of an issue and that they can easily intermix AWD and 2WD on the production line. I think all of the Paradigms will be 2WD, though.
You can like it all you wish they are trying to legally sell this vehicle in as many states and countries as possible and the law doesn't very much like hidden plates.
I am wondering how the knock to enter will work out. Will the passenger knock to enter and would that mean that anyone could knock to enter? Will the doors open during a hail storm or a bumpy road? Will a perfect circle steering wheel be offered for safety?
They want to put ALL controls on the center screen! Even turn signals, headlights, and cruise control. This a huge safety issue! It this is not resolved I am out.
Will it endure 42 years of production in the same basic form, as the classic lightweight ICE car... at 585 kg, the Citroen 2CV. 2023 is its 75th Anniversary.
Auto drive will have many different uses; freeway/motorway in heavy traffic, ordering a car to come and pick you up and take you to the airport etc, pick up hospital patients that can’t drive, also even now with partial auto drive when I’m actually driving my car it detects hazards that can’t be seen so enhances my driving observations.
I have never understood this point of view. If you don’t like it… then fine, don’t use it. It’s not like you are forced to use it. I have a car that has level 2 autonomy. That doesn’t mean I can’t still drive it. It’s an option. It’s like saying “I don’t want a car with AC I live in a cold country”. Then don’t use the AC. 🤷🏻♂️
A sunroof would take away space from solar panels - so not a great idea. I can just see the first people getting an Aptera start putting up YT videos of their Aptera "boat mode" now. Really wish they can bring it to Australia, and the founders said that too - but the regulations and bureaucracy will be difficult to clear as vehicles of this type don't exist in Australia. No quadricycles, no tri-wheelers.
I doubt they can - software is expensive and Aptera will take years to scale to 1/10th of Tesla's current numbers. Even big companies like BMW have struggled with it despite huge budgets. Tesla spends a ton of money on software development. Aptera will be minimum viable product and will likely only catch up with relatively basic things (remote control, sentry mode, pet mode etc) over 2-3 years
@@ccibinel that why I want aptera to be basic .. they can just buy basic software and nothing fancy .. in the meantime aptera is twice as economic as a Tesla and cheaper
You can put in a pre-order. Deliveries are not expected until end of 2023 optimistically, 2024 realistically. They still need to meet funding goals to build out their production intent vehicle and complete testing and validation in 2023.
I didn't know that all three versions can come with AWD, and that the 250 mile - AWD version will be faster than 3.5 sec at 0-60. Can someone confirm this? Or am I getting something wrong?
@@adimchionyenadum2962 Because the 250 mile version will have a smaller battery pack it will weigh less than the longer range versions. That weight savings will result in a faster drag time as the motor has less mass to accelerate.
This video claimed 3.5 was for the 400mile and faster for the lighter 250, but slower for the 600/1000. I've heard most of the claims were calculated on the 1000 mile version and should be faster/more efficient for the shorter ranges/lighter models. We'll see how they compare when all 4 models are in production.
That shot at 1:43 is weird. Look at the passenger side front wheel. The brake line is dangling down, which could get caught on an obstacle and ripped off. It doesn't appear to be the case on the driver side so maybe just a prototype goof?
If I had to pick one thing to change it would be to move the charge connector to the front. It is going to be a pain in @$$ backing it onto charger spots.
@Oliver Foggin I disagree. I've watched large pick ups back into car ports at an apartment complex. The truck due to their width take up most of the width of their spot an it takes time and blocks people from getting by. Pulling in nose first and backing out later is always easier. If you were able to nose in without hitting anything reversing out without hitting anything is a given.
@@garywozniak7742 I don't get your point. What is the difference if the large pick up backs into a car port or drives front first. the width is the same either way, it would block other people whichever way it drove into the spot
Ive always thought it weird that they don't just have 2 locations to plug into, but backing up isnt hard. Hand over the shoulder of the passenger seat, full swivel, left is right right is left
I don't want a self driving car, please stop developing and start the production instead so we can get our cheap-to-run cars as soon as possible and you can get return of investments for further developments
I swear it was ten years ago when I first saw this car wanting orders to get it on the road. Super cool car but..... were it my money.... I would rather buy it off the showroom floor... I give the cash they give me the car... not an incredible dream.
The vehicle you saw over 10 years ago was not the same, although the appearance was similar. The founders were removed from the board by Detroit management their partner Idealab brought in to start production. The replacements wanted to build a different vehicle, couldn't raise funds, and liquidated the company in 2011. Chris and Steve went on to form successful new companies. Chris co-founded a lithium battery company and took it public as CEO. The were able to purchase the original rights back and restarted the company in 2019. Aptera is selling directly, which means that there are many states where you can't buy it the way you wish. I have my pre-order in, and I live in such a state. I will be traveling to the factory and driving mine back.
That car has been "in development" since 2005. Those two guys may not be successful at getting a car into production, but they are the industry leaders in crowd-funding. The latest line from these scammers, "will go into full production in 2025." Send in your deposits NOW, rubes!
They should just start production... now, on youtube are people who think that Aptera will go bankrupt before this moment... ( the new announcement put production begins in Q2 2024!) adding absolutely useless features for a light car seems more like a way to spend time and make a show, but not cars... really, I think they are trying to steal time...and get more money from the investors... and they messed all the early investors/car buyers...
@@LarryDickman1 when people figure out back bar or even a midsize it's oversized for a two-seater I think you missed the mark. Plus the practicality of trying to dodge potholes with a three wheel vehicle in Los Angeles is almost impossible.
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Will some one please fully fund APTERA, so I can get mine 😂
All 4 versions - 250, 400, 600 or 1000 can come with Front or AWD.
I'm sure if someone talked to Elon Musk he would do it
@@wolffur1 What makes you sure about that?
@@wolffur1 Elon doesn't like three wheeled vehicles for safety reasons, though he'd be interested in all the pro's of aptera
@@wolffur1 ... Musk is more interested in colonizing Mars. SpaceX launches the Starship heavy launch vehicle in April 2023. NASA has found vast underground glaciers on Mars so there is water. Russia is losing it's space program due to the Ukraine War. Japan just lost their heavy lift rocket system due to an engineering flaw. SpaceX has a near monopoly on rocket launches in the West.
It's fast and aced the infamous Moose handling & rollover test. This is going to be fun to drive. Can hardly wait to get mine: 250 mile, Full solar-assist, AWD,
Your going to to wait till 2025 for it probably
You're going to have to wait way past 2025. Aptera will likely fail before they deliver a single retail vehicle.
@@camplethargic8 How do you know ? Have you even been on one or drive one at all
@@KG3three Obviously, it's an educated guess. Note how much effort is placed on "engineering changes", "cool features", TH-cam "transparency", and "invest in Aptera" urgings. But how clear is your understanding of their business and manufacturing paths? I've been around long enough to have seen this sort of hype-biz before. Good luck to all you dreamers - where would capitalism be without you?
@@camplethargic8 "educated" I'm not sure youre if youre one of them on this topic. Maybe.
Sure there are many companies that come along and it takes analysis beyond the surface like you're doing. Maybe they're different but you wouldnt be the one to do the due diligence to see that. Good luck to all you superficial analyzers- where would investors and venture capitalists be without you?
Found it:
Family Guy
S8 E1 - Road to the Multiverse
That's it! 🎉
Current winter Temps here dropped our bolt euv by 50% range.
That 1000 mile aptera at 500 mile range is still useful.
For Bolt range: I highly recommend getting 12v seat heaters. Most range loss is from heating the cabin air, which goes straight out the windows. We get almost full range in winter with our Bolt, wearing coat hat and gloves.
@@shanefiddle it already has seat heaters I have no need for that
@@shanefiddle I can operate my Jeep in near arctic conditions and the heater in a Jeep is brutally powerful. BTW, if you don't heat the windows they quickly cover with frost when it's colder than 15 degrees F.
It doesnt go to 50%. The battery warms up as you use it and you can even preheat the battery, store the vehicle in a modestly inulsated garage, etc. The 50% range loss is temporary like a gas car it's temporary until it warms up (albeit a ICE will warm up faster and become efficient. Takes twice as long in a drive EV to warm up.)
Still think the front wheel covers should be higher off ground so you don't wreck them when parking or steep driveway returns.
Yea.. either higher or less closer to the wheels, lengthwise
they have such an amazing team, from the software side to the hardware side! They made so many right choices imo. Huge respect.
Come ONNNNNNN. I can't wait.
1000 mile goal he was clearly looking away from the camera. He doesn't believe it.
the 25 kWH battery will likely reach the 250 range. 45 kWH battery will reach 400 mile range. See that extra 5kWH? It's to help move around nearly double the amount of battery weight. A 1000 mile range will likely require a 120 kWH; that's a lot of weight. In comparison a Model 3 Long Range (~310 mile range) has a ~74 kWH battery.
What I think they can achieve easily is 900 miles with 100 kWH battery. She'll be heavy for the Aptera's body structure and the springs on the wheels will need to be adjusted or replaced for the weight but it could it. I'm making a wild guess that it will be $55,000 for the 900 mile range Aptera first shipping in late 2026.
Are my assumptions above correct or similar to yours?
I can't wait to get my Aptera
Same!
Same here! But now I learned that one cannot buy directly nor can they deliver directly to New Jersey? So, what am I supposed to do? Have them deliver to a friend in a neighbouring state?
@@fanfare100 yes .. ir will still be 2025 for europe .. so count your blessings
@@fanfare100 I have the same issue in Iowa, but I will be going to the factory to pick mine up and will drive it back. I want to visit with some of the people I met the first time, meet some of the others, and have some more questions answered that I probably will have to ask in person.
I've been trying to win the Billion dollar MegaMillions lottery so I can get Aptera into full production as soon as possible.
I'm personally wondering about Nathan Armstrong's estimate of Aptera floating in its CPC BINC form. I have not doubt his statements regarding the 'honeycomb' Aptera's ability in the water (floating) but it is now CF and may not be 'sealed ' in the same manner. We'll have to see about floating a little further along.
Not sure it's a good idea to drive it in water. The water will likely still leak through the door seals which go pretty far down the body. Plus because of the sweeping under belly it will likely tilt really far backwards in water.
Won't sink.....love it.
I had never heard of Aptera until I saw one at my local Cars & Coffee. I got to sit inside the car.
Can’t wait to receive my Aptera!
Fun and excellent video! Aptera could change the entire U.S market. Let's hope in the future they can afford to open a larger production facility in the southeastern US to keep their costs down.
No sunroof needed, keep the price down.
Good point!
I've never understood why anyone would voluntarily spend money to buy a hole in the roof of their car.
some else to pay for and leak, its got ac.
@@markbeiserI have a glass roof in my car. Keeps it light and I don’t have a hole adding wind resistance and sucking away battery power.
How do you change the wheels when you have a flat and is there spare wheels for font and back??? I think the back wheel would be difficult to change.
So, how long until they offer the amphibious upgrade?
I need an off road version. Nothing too serious but I live half an hour down a dirt highway that gets a lot of loging trucks and equipment every day.
It would be perfect out here if I thought it could survive the road.
Obviously the performance would suffer and I doubt there are enough people like me to make it worthwhile doing right now.
I might have to get one and see what happens. Maybe it's more capable than I think.
Maybe change the tires?
They make an off-road package. Obviously not going to be a hardcore off-roader
I still go digging for gold once in a while and it would be great if it would survive the journey!
@@TruthSeeker9038 The off road will be delayed. However, I often drive on gravel roads here in Iowa. When I pick mine up, I will be reporting on how the standard version performs in places like Death Valley. Stay tuned.
@@n.brucenelson5920 oh I’m getting the AWD as well. Can’t have a car without it. I wonder how delayed it will be though
@@TruthSeeker9038 Unless Elaphe has production issues, I don't think the AWD will be much of an issue and that they can easily intermix AWD and 2WD on the production line. I think all of the Paradigms will be 2WD, though.
It'll float, but will it propulse?!
Another concise, informative update -- thanks! 🙂
There should be a aftermarket part thag goes in the hood when its open that you can close like a lid to use more space to carry more things
Was that Shave and a Haircut?
Does it also dispense a quarter when one knocks?
more cells on the car. I see lots of uncovered surface. one could double the amount of cells easily. and snow reflects from underneath.
Hi what is the different bye tune tree weeler and the for weeler in the family update?
I like the hiding of the license plate. They should keep it.
You can like it all you wish they are trying to legally sell this vehicle in as many states and countries as possible and the law doesn't very much like hidden plates.
I am wondering how the knock to enter will work out. Will the passenger knock to enter and would that mean that anyone could knock to enter? Will the doors open during a hail storm or a bumpy road? Will a perfect circle steering wheel be offered for safety?
I think the hale storm would need to know the secret knock. ;-)
the knock to enter is not a guaranteed feature. We will have to see if it gets included.
@@n.brucenelson5920 And if it does get included, I'm sure it will need the presence of either the key card or phone nearby.
Or to be more precise, no , no and probably not.
They want to put ALL controls on the center screen! Even turn signals, headlights, and cruise control. This a huge safety issue! It this is not resolved I am out.
I wish the steering wheel would be a little more aerodynamic like the car .. please !!
Will it endure 42 years of production in the same basic form, as the classic lightweight ICE car... at 585 kg, the Citroen 2CV.
2023 is its 75th Anniversary.
I can't understand why anyone would want a self driving car, I want to drive .
Auto drive will have many different uses; freeway/motorway in heavy traffic, ordering a car to come and pick you up and take you to the airport etc, pick up hospital patients that can’t drive, also even now with partial auto drive when I’m actually driving my car it detects hazards that can’t be seen so enhances my driving observations.
@@alankemp1970 interesting .
I have never understood this point of view. If you don’t like it… then fine, don’t use it. It’s not like you are forced to use it.
I have a car that has level 2 autonomy. That doesn’t mean I can’t still drive it. It’s an option.
It’s like saying “I don’t want a car with AC I live in a cold country”. Then don’t use the AC. 🤷🏻♂️
@@FogmeisterI would never.want it and pay the additional cost for it .
@@thomascorbett2936 then don’t use it. It came as standard on my car. 🤷🏻♂️
A sunroof would take away space from solar panels - so not a great idea.
I can just see the first people getting an Aptera start putting up YT videos of their Aptera "boat mode" now.
Really wish they can bring it to Australia, and the founders said that too - but the regulations and bureaucracy will be difficult to clear as vehicles of this type don't exist in Australia.
No quadricycles, no tri-wheelers.
Is there any way to upgrade to more battery's later on?
Last I heard the answer was no, but I would love this to be an option!
I hope aptera will not go all out in software .. it should basically be a cheap economic logic car ... please !!!
I doubt they can - software is expensive and Aptera will take years to scale to 1/10th of Tesla's current numbers. Even big companies like BMW have struggled with it despite huge budgets. Tesla spends a ton of money on software development. Aptera will be minimum viable product and will likely only catch up with relatively basic things (remote control, sentry mode, pet mode etc) over 2-3 years
@@ccibinel that why I want aptera to be basic .. they can just buy basic software and nothing fancy .. in the meantime aptera is twice as economic as a Tesla and cheaper
This car is now for sale?
You can put in a pre-order. Deliveries are not expected until end of 2023 optimistically, 2024 realistically. They still need to meet funding goals to build out their production intent vehicle and complete testing and validation in 2023.
I didn't know that all three versions can come with AWD, and that the 250 mile - AWD version will be faster than 3.5 sec at 0-60. Can someone confirm this? Or am I getting something wrong?
All 4 versions - 250, 400, 600 & 1000 can come with front or AWD as an option.
@@NYCCEJ Okay, he also said the AWD 250 mile version will be faster than the 400 mile. What does he mean by that, if you know?
@@adimchionyenadum2962 Because the 250 mile version will have a smaller battery pack it will weigh less than the longer range versions. That weight savings will result in a faster drag time as the motor has less mass to accelerate.
@Shannon Lawhorn So, the 3.5 secs being advertised is for the 250-mile, AWD. If so, then the popular 400-mile, AWD, should be slower, I reckon.
This video claimed 3.5 was for the 400mile and faster for the lighter 250, but slower for the 600/1000. I've heard most of the claims were calculated on the 1000 mile version and should be faster/more efficient for the shorter ranges/lighter models. We'll see how they compare when all 4 models are in production.
That shot at 1:43 is weird. Look at the passenger side front wheel. The brake line is dangling down, which could get caught on an obstacle and ripped off. It doesn't appear to be the case on the driver side so maybe just a prototype goof?
What is the part count? long time ago, I heard 1076, which is less than 1/6 of a Tesla.
Still changing but yes, the part count will be impressively small as well as light weight
If I had to pick one thing to change it would be to move the charge connector to the front. It is going to be a pain in @$$ backing it onto charger spots.
Reversing into an parking slots is not just easier to do. It makes it easier to then drive out of the spot too.
@Oliver Foggin I disagree. I've watched large pick ups back into car ports at an apartment complex. The truck due to their width take up most of the width of their spot an it takes time and blocks people from getting by. Pulling in nose first and backing out later is always easier. If you were able to nose in without hitting anything reversing out without hitting anything is a given.
@@garywozniak7742 I don't get your point. What is the difference if the large pick up backs into a car port or drives front first. the width is the same either way, it would block other people whichever way it drove into the spot
Ive always thought it weird that they don't just have 2 locations to plug into, but backing up isnt hard. Hand over the shoulder of the passenger seat, full swivel, left is right right is left
And they are trying for autonony yes? Hit the back me up into that spot button
sad I think due to the continuous delays it might go the same as the sion sono from across the pond
Sure hope the secret knock only works if you have the key fob near the doors.
Of course it will! They are smart and thoughtful engineers.
I don't want a self driving car, please stop developing and start the production instead so we can get our cheap-to-run cars as soon as possible and you can get return of investments for further developments
I don’t think a sunroof is a good idea. It would weaken the structure. The sun beating in would make it harder too cool the inside.
I swear it was ten years ago when I first saw this car wanting orders to get it on the road. Super cool car but..... were it my money.... I would rather buy it off the showroom floor... I give the cash they give me the car... not an incredible dream.
The vehicle you saw over 10 years ago was not the same, although the appearance was similar. The founders were removed from the board by Detroit management their partner Idealab brought in to start production. The replacements wanted to build a different vehicle, couldn't raise funds, and liquidated the company in 2011.
Chris and Steve went on to form successful new companies. Chris co-founded a lithium battery company and took it public as CEO. The were able to purchase the original rights back and restarted the company in 2019.
Aptera is selling directly, which means that there are many states where you can't buy it the way you wish. I have my pre-order in, and I live in such a state. I will be traveling to the factory and driving mine back.
Forget the fart apps. Just add an extra seat.
I just realized I need the 400 or greater but I only need that once a month
That car has been "in development" since 2005. Those two guys may not be successful at getting a car into production, but they are the industry leaders in crowd-funding. The latest line from these scammers, "will go into full production in 2025." Send in your deposits NOW, rubes!
I want a gas powered aptera option
A quarter of part for a half of a car.. Wow.
Still need wind turbine for more power
They should just start production... now, on youtube are people who think that Aptera will go bankrupt before this moment... ( the new announcement put production begins in Q2 2024!) adding absolutely useless features for a light car seems more like a way to spend time and make a show, but not cars... really, I think they are trying to steal time...and get more money from the investors... and they messed all the early investors/car buyers...
Is Aptera planning european or world marked!?
Yes, worldwide is the plan. But I imagine they'll end up focusing on sunny climates and eager buyers
Car is is all hype.
Will it or won't it? Will it go the way of the Solo? Just no demand for this at all. The pre-orders are barely enough to make the hype videos.
they don't have any money?
They have millions and they have spent millions and they need millions more to secure a safe launch of mass production. Fingers crossed
Its too wide... I want to see a lower cargo load in height.
You won't see it.
@@LarryDickman1 when people figure out back bar or even a midsize it's oversized for a two-seater I think you missed the mark. Plus the practicality of trying to dodge potholes with a three wheel vehicle in Los Angeles is almost impossible.
Not safe everyone will go knock on it and steal it and contents inside.
My understanding is the knock knock feature is only available when you're in close proximity, using the phone as the key.
"Not safe" like my Ford isn't safe, because all I have to do is pull the door handle, get in, and push a button to start it.🙄
I hope this is meant as a joke
I'd love to see them toss it back out onto water