"Kill William Kill William Kill William Birthday cake Kill William Kill William Kill William" that part got a chuckle, I did not expect the random birthday cake thought.
@@Gathaspar-k8r I've always liked the idea of BV simply being a lost soul with broken memories that all the other kids have to put back together in order to move on. Ryetoast's latest video includes a theory pretty close to my own interpretation, if you want more details.
If this theory is true, then that would mean that all of the spirits really ARE in Pizzeria Simulator. Bite Victim is in Mike. Charlie is in Lefty. The MCI kids (except Cassidy) are in Molten Freddy. Cassidy is in Afton (assuming that William used parts of Golden Freddy to fix himself, like that one theory goes). And Elizabeth is in Scrap Baby. Now either Henry is a wizard for figuring this all out, or he really did learn a way to comunicate with spirits like Gibi's Horror Homestead suggests.
Baby is isolated in Sister Location; she is kept in her own room away from the others. It's fine for the two funtime-labeled animatronics to share a space and Ballora''s gallery is directly across from there's. Baby's "pen" is off and away from theirs, with it's own dedicated control system for that room; where as again the funtimes and Ballora's holding spaces are sharing controls. Why is this? Perhaps Baby is isolated and off to the side because Afton never wanted to mess with her after Elizabeth? Maybe the reason there are old puppets / toys in that room is because Afton was working on a different project to try and "rouse" the spirit of Elizabeth after the accident? And then, perhaps, when Afton goes missing entirely and Fazbear takes over the rental service in full they just start scooping her / renting her out for parties because Fazbear does not understand why she was being isolated / studied separately?
I think this is a fair conclusion, if BV is to haunt anything based specifically on where he died Michael seems obviously the best vessel for him, either that or the Fredbear Plush since they both talk to him in that scene. Then again you can still have all of that work with whatever variation of ShatterVictim you believe, if you think the kid being afraid of everything and crying everywhere is enough for his emotions to 'leak' all over the place, or some kind of novels Henry / Edwin situation where they just bring something to life through their grief or pain.
I've been a big advocate of FollowVictim for a while, mainly because it creates a compromise for those who believe the Bite Victim is the one having the FNaF4 dreams, of which I am one of them. I find it incredibly hard to deny that we play as the Bite Victim in FNaF4, it just seems so obvious. Since it's basically confirmed at this point that we play as Michael in FNaF4, there must be some way to explain why both of them would be having these dreams, since they can't be the same person. FollowVictim is really the only theory I can think of that explains this well.
Henry from The Silver Eyes trilogy gave life to four robots without the use of Charlie’s actual soul. He poured his agony into Ella and that gave life to every version of Charlie. That’s how Crying Child can haunt the restaurant without dying there. He poured his agony around Fazbear items characters and locations during the FNAF 4 minigames which ended up cursing the company’s history. Henry makes a reference to this when he talks directly to Mike in FNAF 6’s ending. He says “This place will not be remembered and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away, as the agony of every tragedy should.” When this happens images of FNAF 1’s west hall and Mangle in FNAF 2 appear. These are subtle references to Crying Child’s agony.
Idk, FollowVicitm is what I truthfully believe in. I just wonder if what’s in the box is BV and his own Fredbear plush and that BV has this ability to follow Michael wherever he goes, this kinda mirrors how the Fredbear plush watches over BV throughout the FNAF 4 minigames. So if BV was awaken in SL and his memories attached onto Molten Freddy, then that could explain the whole “One big happy family” line. Overall, I love this explanation and the fact Alter-S sweeps perfectly. I’m kinda bummed how some people would deny your theories and opinions on the lore (especially how ShatterVictim is growing quickly). Love the video dude, keep up the great work and I’m excited for what you’re cooking 👍
I had problems with moltenMCI and was looking for an alternative, and then found your video about alter-s, and now I was starting to realize that goldenduo also has a lot of problems and was looking for an alternative, and 16:34 minutes later, I think I found it
Thank you for making a video on this, this was always a theory that I’ve had this theory idea one for a while, but I never knew it was something that people actually consider, overall great video, but I thought that FNAF 4 would have been brought up more because I think this theory helps explain a lot of the weirdness associated to not only that game, but everything that references back to the game. A lot people have stuck to the idea that we play as Michael in FNAF 4, or a lot of different reasons. The fact we can hear the night one phone call in the background, Michael drawing nightmare Fredbear in the logbook, how the nightmare animatronics play similarly to how they did in FNAF 1. A lot of stuff connects Michael as being the one who is dealing with the nightmares, but also lot of recent stuff has tried to emphasize that the crying child is experiencing the nightmares the character encyclopedia stating this and even though dittophobia doesn’t have the crying child, it at least states that a testing room similar to FNAF 4 is a real place connected to sister location. The point being why have so many things that contradict each other knowing the fandom they’re working with unless there was a way to connect them. Using this theory in mind it could be that the crying child was a part of those test rooms and Michael is experiencing a dream version of the events due to the remnant inside of him, mixing in with the experience he had if he was the FNAF 1 security guard. This could also explain why in the logbook he draws Nightmare Fredbear when asked if he still has nightmares because maybe it is amalgamation style nightmare of the trauma Michael possibly witnessed happened to his siblings, both being that Fredbear was the one to kill the crying child and the stomach mouth being associated with Elizabeth’s death to Baby. I know that has some holes here and there, but I wanted to throw my hat in the ring in support for this theory.
The Alone together book talks about ppl that are special and can see ghosts, William sees the ghost kids before getting spring locked, making him one of these special ppl, why wouldn't Mike and cc also have this special ability or at least have a sensitivity to spirits more so than other ppl
Willhelm assman is the bite victim he doesnt die and winds up combining his soul hole and becomes an sole whole in 3 when he eats himself in the yellow bear suit
Cooking more than Gordon Ramsey I actually liked the bit where you mentioned how this theory applies to back before SL, it fits like a glove! GOod vid Sire!
11:12 Maybe it's not even the ennards remnant that brings mike back to life? It could be that Michael's will power and agony and stuff is just strong enough to create his own remnant/make him able to posses himself. Or maybe it's an "a man in room 1280" situation with cc's spirit keeping Mike alive?
The idea of the bite victim being linked to Mike and also being instrumental in Happiest Day could explain why Mike has to interact with certain things in 3 for the minigames to be triggered, like he’s helping the bite victim to access the other kids who are so broken and destroyed. However that kind of implies that happiest day does occur sometime around FNaF 3, which should leave Molten Freddy inactive? Unless, arbitrarily, it’s just the DCI kids or some other group of spirits in those minigames. I could be missing something here, I’m curious if you can make anything of this.
12:15 A Paper Tiger... a tiger... LIKE TIGER ROCK??? Crying child is tiger rock 100% yup no questions asked. The Mimic01? What's that never heard of such a thing.
I’m not sure how I feel about the bite victim having a hand in creating happiest day. It feels like it lessens the impact/goes against “the party was for me” as in they did it all for him. Also wtf kind of theory does Yes Victim mean lol?
If the reason why Dave and Cassidy are communicating through Mike's logbook because Dave is possessing Mike, wouldn't the logical conclusion be that Cassidy is also possessing Mike? That would explain why Golden Freddy isn't seen after FNAF 1 and how Cassidy gets to the FNAF 6 fire. I also don't think this would entail Dave being in Molten Freddy, it makes more sense that happiest day frees the other spirits because parts of them were also possessing Mike from the SCUPing incident, and it's these parts specifically that were haunting him in the form of the phantom animatronics (and maybe the nightmares) that get freed, but the parts that are in the funtimes/MF still need to be freed, and of course neither Cassidy nor Charlie wanted to be free.
Are you planning on covering the dual process theory that Cassidy is the crying child? It has a fair few plot holes but it does streamline a lot of the confusing elements of the franchise.
@@siresquawks I think the mci kinda infect stuff around them causing stuff to be “haunted” for example, paper pals in fnaf 2, random endoskeleton in fnaf 2, the arcades.
I really like this idea But as community we need better names. What kind of theory names are this??? Shatter memory follow victim what is that supossed to mean?
well, to fix the vengeful spirit debate sire squawks use ucndissent lol the spirit WON'T posses golden freddy but rather cassidy/golden freddy would try to stop andrew for keeping afton alive on ucn events which explains why andrew wears a alligator mask btw, the suit argument doesn't work when they are refering to the spirit photo on the vent that photo is refered as a male "leave the demon to his demons" would mean "leave afton to ucnroster/andrew, cassidy"
I'm gonna be real I think the fact there's an entire excel sheet of theory concepts and you use them so heavily is...kinda ridiculous and makes vids hard to follow at times. Most other theorists I watch barely escape the bounds of the MCI.
"Kill William
Kill William
Kill William
Birthday cake
Kill William
Kill William
Kill William"
that part got a chuckle, I did not expect the random birthday cake thought.
Could you do a time stamp for it
@@gerardsheppard89412:31
He should have said.
Pizza?
If both FollowVictim and MikeFrightGuard are true then FNAF 3 is basically: Me watching bro defending himself from our evil ass dad.
Lmfao, good one
Golden Freddy and Bite Victim battling to the death over who can be the most impossible character to solve
I think it is pretty clear that GF is possessed by the fifth MCI kid - Cassidy.
The question is who or were CC is and what happens to him.
@@Gathaspar-k8r I've always liked the idea of BV simply being a lost soul with broken memories that all the other kids have to put back together in order to move on.
Ryetoast's latest video includes a theory pretty close to my own interpretation, if you want more details.
I liked the theory of Cassidy helping CC find his memories in FNAF World
I’ve always liked the idea of Michael being haunted by his brother.
If this theory is true, then that would mean that all of the spirits really ARE in Pizzeria Simulator.
Bite Victim is in Mike.
Charlie is in Lefty.
The MCI kids (except Cassidy) are in Molten Freddy.
Cassidy is in Afton (assuming that William used parts of Golden Freddy to fix himself, like that one theory goes).
And Elizabeth is in Scrap Baby.
Now either Henry is a wizard for figuring this all out, or he really did learn a way to comunicate with spirits like Gibi's Horror Homestead suggests.
Mikeduo/follow victim is such a solid explanation for fnaf4 that idk that i could be convinced otherwise
Pretty sure Mike's dreams about Nightmare Chambers are CC's memories so yes he haunts his brother.
Baby is isolated in Sister Location; she is kept in her own room away from the others. It's fine for the two funtime-labeled animatronics to share a space and Ballora''s gallery is directly across from there's. Baby's "pen" is off and away from theirs, with it's own dedicated control system for that room; where as again the funtimes and Ballora's holding spaces are sharing controls. Why is this? Perhaps Baby is isolated and off to the side because Afton never wanted to mess with her after Elizabeth? Maybe the reason there are old puppets / toys in that room is because Afton was working on a different project to try and "rouse" the spirit of Elizabeth after the accident? And then, perhaps, when Afton goes missing entirely and Fazbear takes over the rental service in full they just start scooping her / renting her out for parties because Fazbear does not understand why she was being isolated / studied separately?
I think this is a fair conclusion, if BV is to haunt anything based specifically on where he died Michael seems obviously the best vessel for him, either that or the Fredbear Plush since they both talk to him in that scene.
Then again you can still have all of that work with whatever variation of ShatterVictim you believe, if you think the kid being afraid of everything and crying everywhere is enough for his emotions to 'leak' all over the place, or some kind of novels Henry / Edwin situation where they just bring something to life through their grief or pain.
I've been a big advocate of FollowVictim for a while, mainly because it creates a compromise for those who believe the Bite Victim is the one having the FNaF4 dreams, of which I am one of them. I find it incredibly hard to deny that we play as the Bite Victim in FNaF4, it just seems so obvious. Since it's basically confirmed at this point that we play as Michael in FNaF4, there must be some way to explain why both of them would be having these dreams, since they can't be the same person. FollowVictim is really the only theory I can think of that explains this well.
Mike being followed/ possessed by the bite victim is called follow victim.
Nvm I just got to the end of the video and you figured it out yourself
Henry from The Silver Eyes trilogy gave life to four robots without the use of Charlie’s actual soul. He poured his agony into Ella and that gave life to every version of Charlie. That’s how Crying Child can haunt the restaurant without dying there. He poured his agony around Fazbear items characters and locations during the FNAF 4 minigames which ended up cursing the company’s history. Henry makes a reference to this when he talks directly to Mike in FNAF 6’s ending. He says “This place will not be remembered and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away, as the agony of every tragedy should.” When this happens images of FNAF 1’s west hall and Mangle in FNAF 2 appear. These are subtle references to Crying Child’s agony.
Idk, FollowVicitm is what I truthfully believe in.
I just wonder if what’s in the box is BV and his own Fredbear plush and that BV has this ability to follow Michael wherever he goes, this kinda mirrors how the Fredbear plush watches over BV throughout the FNAF 4 minigames.
So if BV was awaken in SL and his memories attached onto Molten Freddy, then that could explain the whole “One big happy family” line.
Overall, I love this explanation and the fact Alter-S sweeps perfectly. I’m kinda bummed how some people would deny your theories and opinions on the lore (especially how ShatterVictim is growing quickly).
Love the video dude, keep up the great work and I’m excited for what you’re cooking 👍
I’m losing my mind and no longer having fun. Trying to solve this mystery so I can be put to rest 💀
I had problems with moltenMCI and was looking for an alternative, and then found your video about alter-s, and now I was starting to realize that goldenduo also has a lot of problems and was looking for an alternative, and 16:34 minutes later, I think I found it
Thank you for making a video on this, this was always a theory that I’ve had this theory idea one for a while, but I never knew it was something that people actually consider, overall great video, but I thought that FNAF 4 would have been brought up more because I think this theory helps explain a lot of the weirdness associated to not only that game, but everything that references back to the game.
A lot people have stuck to the idea that we play as Michael in FNAF 4, or a lot of different reasons. The fact we can hear the night one phone call in the background, Michael drawing nightmare Fredbear in the logbook, how the nightmare animatronics play similarly to how they did in FNAF 1. A lot of stuff connects Michael as being the one who is dealing with the nightmares, but also lot of recent stuff has tried to emphasize that the crying child is experiencing the nightmares the character encyclopedia stating this and even though dittophobia doesn’t have the crying child, it at least states that a testing room similar to FNAF 4 is a real place connected to sister location. The point being why have so many things that contradict each other knowing the fandom they’re working with unless there was a way to connect them.
Using this theory in mind it could be that the crying child was a part of those test rooms and Michael is experiencing a dream version of the events due to the remnant inside of him, mixing in with the experience he had if he was the FNAF 1 security guard. This could also explain why in the logbook he draws Nightmare Fredbear when asked if he still has nightmares because maybe it is amalgamation style nightmare of the trauma Michael possibly witnessed happened to his siblings, both being that Fredbear was the one to kill the crying child and the stomach mouth being associated with Elizabeth’s death to Baby.
I know that has some holes here and there, but I wanted to throw my hat in the ring in support for this theory.
you are my favorite person in the fnaf theory community, keep up the amazing work!!!
Hmmm....that's very...very interesting....
You've raised a lot of good points here👍
The Alone together book talks about ppl that are special and can see ghosts, William sees the ghost kids before getting spring locked, making him one of these special ppl, why wouldn't Mike and cc also have this special ability or at least have a sensitivity to spirits more so than other ppl
Willhelm assman is the bite victim he doesnt die and winds up combining his soul hole and becomes an sole whole in 3 when he eats himself in the yellow bear suit
As always I love your artwork
thank you for having captions on this thing i was always confused wtf "ultra res" was but i just figured out it was "alter s"
Cooking more than Gordon Ramsey
I actually liked the bit where you mentioned how this theory applies to back before SL, it fits like a glove! GOod vid Sire!
Thoughts on Vanzolin's recent theory about the FNAF 1 location, William's motives, and Phone Guy?
11:12
Maybe it's not even the ennards remnant that brings mike back to life?
It could be that Michael's will power and agony and stuff is just strong enough to create his own remnant/make him able to posses himself.
Or maybe it's an "a man in room 1280" situation with cc's spirit keeping Mike alive?
6:37
Because Scott wanted to not actually give us answers without us spending money.
There is no logical reason.
It might be a clue that "Gregory" is inside Glam Rock Freddy, who we presume to be Michael.
I, personally, would call this theory FollowSplit
The idea of the bite victim being linked to Mike and also being instrumental in Happiest Day could explain why Mike has to interact with certain things in 3 for the minigames to be triggered, like he’s helping the bite victim to access the other kids who are so broken and destroyed. However that kind of implies that happiest day does occur sometime around FNaF 3, which should leave Molten Freddy inactive? Unless, arbitrarily, it’s just the DCI kids or some other group of spirits in those minigames. I could be missing something here, I’m curious if you can make anything of this.
(insert bell curve iq meme here) low end: molten freddy has 5 spirits. Middle: molten freddy has 4 spirits. High end: molten freddy has 5 spirits
Honestly this is how I think we should look at this no Andrew no high school chicka
This is a really good tinkering with vanilla followvictim
This actually is a great theory
12:15 A Paper Tiger... a tiger... LIKE TIGER ROCK??? Crying child is tiger rock 100% yup no questions asked. The Mimic01? What's that never heard of such a thing.
I’m not sure how I feel about the bite victim having a hand in creating happiest day. It feels like it lessens the impact/goes against “the party was for me” as in they did it all for him.
Also wtf kind of theory does Yes Victim mean lol?
Damn this mug is based ash
If the reason why Dave and Cassidy are communicating through Mike's logbook because Dave is possessing Mike, wouldn't the logical conclusion be that Cassidy is also possessing Mike? That would explain why Golden Freddy isn't seen after FNAF 1 and how Cassidy gets to the FNAF 6 fire. I also don't think this would entail Dave being in Molten Freddy, it makes more sense that happiest day frees the other spirits because parts of them were also possessing Mike from the SCUPing incident, and it's these parts specifically that were haunting him in the form of the phantom animatronics (and maybe the nightmares) that get freed, but the parts that are in the funtimes/MF still need to be freed, and of course neither Cassidy nor Charlie wanted to be free.
now i am wondering if for MCI kids, 1 eye lit up means soul and 2 means soul and remnant
When i first seen Mike with that Foxy mask .. I thought for sure he became Foxy (But was wrong)
Are you planning on covering the dual process theory that Cassidy is the crying child? It has a fair few plot holes but it does streamline a lot of the confusing elements of the franchise.
Sire would absolutely tear that theory apart
the BLUE victim
i dont think this would work with the “original” story of 1-4
73 views in the first 5 minutes, WE ARE SO BACK
Where does it say that the kids see the worlds as arcade video games?
I more meant that the minigames are haunting and nightmarish- and these are the images associated with the kids.
@@siresquawks I think the mci kinda infect stuff around them causing stuff to be “haunted” for example, paper pals in fnaf 2, random endoskeleton in fnaf 2, the arcades.
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16:15 "Bite victim is yes"???????
The Crying Child is the original Puppet.
I really like this idea
But as community we need better names. What kind of theory names are this???
Shatter memory follow victim what is that supossed to mean?
I usually just stick to explaining details of a theory, because the names are so confusing. 😂
well, to fix the vengeful spirit debate sire squawks
use ucndissent lol
the spirit WON'T posses golden freddy
but rather cassidy/golden freddy would try to stop andrew for keeping afton alive on ucn events
which explains why andrew wears a alligator mask
btw, the suit argument doesn't work when they are refering to the spirit photo on the vent
that photo is refered as a male
"leave the demon to his demons" would mean "leave afton to ucnroster/andrew, cassidy"
I'm gonna be real I think the fact there's an entire excel sheet of theory concepts and you use them so heavily is...kinda ridiculous and makes vids hard to follow at times. Most other theorists I watch barely escape the bounds of the MCI.
Not my spreadsheet and I try the stick to ones I see discussed the most. I had to use a spreadsheet to figure out the name of this concept.
Why is the pronunciation so weird
He’s an AI
@@nickhueper2906 nah it's just bad communication skills