I feel like that's not happening soon because there's still this wish from Steel Wool to make a FNAF game in the past(they have talked about wanting to touch the begginings of Fazbear Entertainment or a Fredbear's Family Dinner game), so a bible explaining stuff, even it was just FNAF 1 to UCN, details from the start of the timeline would still be up to changes.
I know, right? These don't even feel like they should be questions. When I see these questions being asked, it makes me feel less like this is an intentional mystery, and more like something went wrong when presenting the mystery.
Ever play Clue? 6 central questions of a mystery are Who, What, When, Why, How, and To Whom. The frustration/brilliance of FNAF is that there are dozens of mysterious events and not a single one has had more than like 3 of these questions answered. Like Scott will give us a Who and a What but not the When or the Whom. Or he'll present 2 similar events but leave out the When on one and the Who on the other, driving people bonkers wondering if there are actually 2 separate events or just one. And don't even get me started on the red herrings. That's when you think one of the questions is answered but it was a misdirection. The culprit was wearing a wig! The victim and killer are actually working together! There is no killer, the victim died of natural causes!
something about the argument that BV can't be the happiest day kid because FNAF was originally going to end at 3 is especially silly because FNAF 1 was originally going to be a standalone so you could argue that Mangle(or any toy animatronic really) couldn't have done the bite of 87 because it would of originally been one of the classics under that context.
so this is a misconception, fnaf 1 was going to be the only one if the game wasnt successful, but scott already had the basic's of 2 and 3's plot, (i argee with your actual argument)
Yeah and I’m pretty sure in the Dawko interview Scott literally says he had conceptions of what each game would become up to sister location when he was making fnaf 2 so fnaf 4 was partially planned during the creation of fnaf 3. And like you said it’s one continuous story he even says that in the matpat stream it’s 4 games 1 story. the 4th game isn’t separate from the others story wise it’s a direct continuation. And also that revelation of Scott saying sister location was planned out means that dream theory is completely dead and never was the case so the 4 games 1 story thing was referring to something other than that and it could very well have been saying that bite victim was the happiest day recipient
@@docrilas technically that isn't a retcon cause it wasn't made canon in the first place cause it wasn't released, it proves that Scott made other versions of the story, but a retcon is too far
I’m really glad to hear you say that you’re considering if it’s “unwritable”. That’s one lens I always use to analyse my own and other peoples theories. It’s important to ask “if that’s true why would they write it like that, what’s the goal”. Trying to imagine a situation where someone working on the logbook is told to include that image of the girl with black pigtails to represent Cassidy is an important way of thinking about theories like that ehich cross different forms of media and different companies and people writing fnaf content
I almost feel like when we’re in this deep talking about the smallest lines and details in novels and promotional material, we’ve gone too far. I don’t think Scott or whoever was in charge of writing or drawing at the time meant for something this small to mean so much to the lore. I feel it might be better to draw a satisfying story out of the FNAF timeline, rather than trying to fit every small piece of lore from all over the franchise. And at that it would definitely be better to prioritize details from the games themselves wherever possible, and treat the books more as guidelines rather than conclusive statements.
While i think it originally was Cassidy/Golden Freddy Kid since FNaF3 was the end of the trilogy and The Happiest Day wasn’t a metaphorical forgotten Birthday party but more of a Generic Celevration Happy ending thing. But after FNaF4.I pretty sure that only BV can be the HD kid. Not only because the Birthday theme is super exclusive to him.but also because Who Else is Tied to Fredbear/Golden Freddy and Would have their Birthday was their Happiest day is Not the kid that died at Fredbears,to Fredbear himself and at their own Birthday.
That doesn’t explain why his memories form the foundation for saving all the other kids, though. Like, all four of the other kids have to be found in this weird supernatural space made up of his memories, so why wouldn’t Cassidy? Hell, the fact that she is the only other person who is connected to Fredbear/GF, and is the only spirit among them who has spoken to him in the logbook and possibly FNAF World, it could be said that it’s fitting that the memory she is in is his most important one. It could be argued, as Squawks kinda did, that that makes sense in a mechanical sense rather than emotional, but I mean… that’s not really a counter to it. lol
@@damkylan3 I think if you believe Cassidy is the VS, your first question is easily answered because she obviously wouldn't rest in peace with the other kids as she'd continue to torture William in UCN.
@@damkylan3I mean… technically yeah? But also eh… Like yeah mechanically it is a little odd (at least now it is; back around 3-4 I feel like everyone was fine saying it was weird ghost stuff because remnent wasn’t a big thing yet), but just as a person who consumes fiction, I can’t fathom why Scott would add all the HD parallels to the big bite in a game RIGHT AFTER if it wasn’t supposed to convey that this is the HD child aka mysterious fan favorite Golden Freddy’s backstory. Especially since Scotts stated that he tries to clear up confusing stuff in the following game. Yeah I know it can just be his memories for why it’s the FNAF 4 pizzeria and the 4 kids evoking the bullies can be coincidence, but then…. Well why not just make it CC then? What’s the point of him otherwise? Idk it just feels too obvious for me.😅
@@THE_END.ヽThat’s not a counter argument. Cassidy the vengeful spirit DOES rest her soul, she does listen to old man consequences advice, the only way to leave is to head into the pond which in FNaF world leads to your happiest day. This would be followed by the happiest day we see in FNaF 3 where the rest of the MCI who were apart of Molten Freddy are waiting for her. If all their souls are put to rest then that ultimately sets the crying child’s soul free since the remaining fragments of his soul lay within the MCI.
@@Trontotario I never said she didn't, of course she does, but with things like the order of the graves in HW and the number colored balloons in the Pizzaplex, I think they show the order in which the kids rest in peace (overall because Charlie obviously wasn't the last one to die), making Cassidy the last to rest. C.C can be set free without the need of Cassidy to be set free as well by using his happy memories, just like how Jake sets Andrew free in the Stitchwraith Stingers (presumably, as we never see Andrew again) using a happy memory of his own.
I like how I agreed with almost every one of your points against ShatterVictim even tho I believe the theory lmao. The only reason as to why I even am a ShatterVictimer is because there isn't really any other way how the FNAF 3 minigames make sense IMO(I could just believe FreeVictim, but that's kinda boring y'know?). Not to mention, this video might've converted me to BVReceiver mostly cuz it makes ShatterVictim better and a little more easy to understand. CassidyReceiver never really explains what happened to him after Happiest Day now that I think about it. Great job on defending this theory from the community's unnecessarily rude treatment towards it! This was a pleasant watch! Also, small nitpick at 12:11, I'm pretty sure that the first Freddy's location already existed before BV died because Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy appeared in the "Fredbear & Friends" show and have their own merch.
I know that Mystery in the LOORRREE is a part of the fandom now but if Scott and Co. ever release official images of what everyone looks like, I'd be so happy and buy 20 of whatever they put it in because I know damned well a Reveal like that wouldn't be online. It would be physical Merch. I'd actually love a picture book of everyone, TBH. I've always pictured Cassidy as a mix of the Logbook Little Girl and TOYSHK from UCN. And I always thought that Happiest Day Golden Freddy was Crying Child (Evan, to me...) because he doesn't strike me as the type to want Revenge over Peace. The poor little guy didn't have a peaceful Life. He'd jump at the chance to have a peaceful Afterlife. No More Pain.
hope if they would ever do that, they get a different illustrator (or have steel wool do it ig) since man do those graphic novels look wacky. not a huge issue for a comic but anytime they're used outside of them they hurt to look at (stuff like the fnaf encyclopedia or fnaf theory videos with that ugly ass henry image)
Golden Freddy was stuck in the same building with the MCI victims so no matter what, they are connected and BV wouldn't move on without his friends even though he could as we see with Jake in Stitchrafe not choosing to move on until the "pieces"* left by Andrew were fixed. As for BV being broken, he is literally stuck to his bed in a coma/un-moving state on life support, meaning being put back together means helping the spirit by "fixing" what had resulted in their death. This is further evident by Jake basically jot being able to do what he wanted to do and with Elizabeth having the chance to make up for not obeying William which resulted in her death and (as we see in FNAF 6) Elizabeth wants to make William proud which to her means she's righting a wrong. Cassidy is basically helping the Puppet undo what happened to BV, which was having his party and having the MCI kids (standing in for his plush friends) be their. Which can also likely mean that Charlie died first and that was what BV saw making him scared of the animatronics, meaning Charlie must be their so BV can know the animatronics were not originally killing machines and what happened to BV was an accident caused my Michael taking out aggression on him with William's and Ms Afton's divorce.
Question: In FNAF2, why are there two forms of Golden Freddy? Why is there a floating, gapping-jaw head and a "traditional" (mirroring FNAF1's pose) sitting one? Is it just because Golden Freddy is incorporeal (a ghostly vision) that it can do that or is it to symbolize different spirits? Something very much associated with the head / the mouth of Golden Freddy and then something associated with the springlock suit as a whole? I kind of wonder about it because in FNAF4 Mike scared his brother by wearing a foxy mask and surprising him and here is a Golden Freddy face popping out from the shadows.
Okay, I REALLY appreciate all the ShatterVictim call-outs, a ton of what you say about it working on leaps of faith and having the same problems as other theories turned up to 11 is exactly what I've been saying for months now! It's refreshing to know I'm not the only one who feels that way. The more people try to explain ShatterVictim to me, the more absurd and overwhelming it gets. For example, not too long ago I got into a discussion on Reddit where someone tried to argue that everything from the designs of Balloon Boy, Mangle and the Puppet, to Foxy's jumpscare, to the gameplay structure of Sister Location are all a result of ShatterVictim. At that point I don't even think "shatter" does it justice anymore, it should be called "VaporiseVictim" or something. Also I really love the Billy Bob Jenkins analogy, really funny.
I'm a ShatterVictimer and I cringe everytime someone tries to make the theory more complicated then it already is. And even I can admit that the "distance issue" is still there. Why do people rip on GoldenDuo for this, but ShatterVictim gets a pass?
@@Eddbruh83 exactly! I can't tell you how many times people with ShatterVictim in their user flair have criticised me for believing GoldenDuo. And yeah, in its simplest form, whilst I still disagree with ShatterVictim, I can definitely see why people believe it.
@@randomrhino4371 Don't worry buddy, I know how you feel because I also used to be a GoldenDuoer(still kinda am tho, the art for it is pretty sick sometimes). Also, it's very funny how when you ask most ShatterVictimers about the distance issue, they won't even adress it and then change the topic 💀
It's really not that complicated considering it's just "DreamTheory, but real" lol. Like with DT, everything in the original story (meaning up until FNAF6) ties back to CC, his powerful emotions, and his traumatic memories. Except his spiritual agony is so strong it affects the real world like a curse. That's it. I get why it would seem overwhelming if you get bogged down in the mechanical details of it, but I don't think we should. It's like trying to question why Michael Brooks leaves a piece of his soul with Carlton to avert his death in Fourth Closet, because what? lol I mean, there's two ways we can go about this. Either the many bad things that follow FazEnt around, which ALL tie back to CC's traumas in some way (the multiple springlock accidents being tied to his fear of this happening based on scary rumors, the MCI being directly tied to his "friends", Charlie dying as a result of bullying (CC's visual similarities with the Puppet are important here) and then "giving life" to the MCI just like him with his "friends" which led to many other deaths, etc.) are a result of what is basically a curse that began when he died... or it's all a bunch of coincidences that only symbolically tie back to him. Honestly, either one works. Point is, the connections aren't a stretch. They're all real and intentional. For what it's worth, The Silver Eyes might explain the logic to this, when the group is talking about ghosts and hauntings. Charlie says that she believes memories are left behind and attach to places even if there's no actual ghost there. Then Marla talks about how she sometimes feels certain emotions in certain places, and that maybe we constantly leave pieces of our fear, regret, and hope in all the places we go, and specifically talks about how a certain space she loved as a kid seemed to literally turn dark and "wrong" after her grandmother died. It's not exact, but it's pretty close. And this would have been written in 2015, literally right after FNAF4.
0:22 1. 2:10 As said, Susie is the same in both since she has the Pizza Sim design. 2. 0:30 The unnamed kid, who is probably Gabriel, has a Black and White Striped Shirt 3. Fritz is described to have Freckles. 4. Cassidy has long black hair. Aside from Susie, literally all the MCI kid GN designs are wrong 😆 2:38 (personal theory time) and 3, "has their animatronic's eye colour in their design." 1. Susie's "Pinkish Purple" Dress. 2. Charlie's trilogy designs wear green, matching the security puppet's eyes (due to the green tag) 3. Logbook girl's Shirt (you can slightly see light blue on the shirt, which we know movie golden Freddy + SB Poster Fredbear have Blue, like Freddy's, while normal Golden freddy shares it's blacked out eyes with the toys, which we know isnt their actual eye colour) 4. Gabriel's novel counter part has a Black and White Shirt, like BV (who has blue pants, like Freddy's eyes) Also by mixing this and GN design, you could get a design similar to Movie Jeremy's design.😂 5. Purple guy keeps the white eyes from his original sprite when he becomes springtrap 6. Elizabeth keeps her green eyes when she possesses Baby. 3:12-3:25 of course if you take what I just said too broadly, as "this=that character because they both have this one colour" then.....3:20
The problem I have with using "a girl with long black hair" as evidence of anything related to Cassidy is that every single subsequent appearance of any character who can be assumed to be Cassidy is of a girl with dirty blonde hair. Sure, this is debatable depending on whether you think the vengeful spirit is Cassidy, but assuming it is, then we have five appearances over three different continuities of a probably-Cassidy (books, UCN, Security Breach, the movie, and Help Wanted 2) that are all blonde, implying to me that any reference to a girl with black hair is probably not supposed to Cassidy?
Lol, I just also realized this but the girl with 2 pigtails in the picture where she’s getting a present from the puppet can’t be Charlie because the puppet in that picture has tear streaks on the mask which means the puppet is already possessed by Charlie. Awesome video by the way!
I was planning to make a hot take of FNAF's inconsistent illustrations for another channel, and here's my findings: The pink pill did the Fruity Maze Susie and TSE graphic novel, (I also eventually saw she had a bow much like Elizabeth.) While the Fizzy one did the Logbook. Every graphic novel afterwards was done by a different person who was given no specifics as one actually stated. The Fizz even seemed to admit such for the Character Encyclopedia, too. Heh, the Ultimate Guide not acknowledging Gabriel's name with the others, then showing the comic panel that does is probably my favorite part of it. XD Lately I've been thinking a conspiracy that much of Scott's FNAF lore was built of stuff Matpat said in his love of trolling him. Like Charlie being a robot in TFC exists because Mat said it in his Twisted Ones video. To take it a step further in comparing blonde proto-Cassie with Amelia or Elizabeth, I think i got her name mixed up with an Abigail (was that Steve's fake wife?) which made me link her to Abby from the movie, and sent me down a crazy spiral of comparing Chica's and Baby's. And I had NO idea that Abigail was a common placeholder name for Afton's daughter pre FFPS, likely via the BABY acronym the movie did. I still like to use it for a Ruin canon divergence in my mind. Also most fanart of pigtail Cassidy has overalls. No idea where that stems from...
PinkyPills is Claudia Schröder- who did art in FNaF 6 yes and LadyFizi (real name Emese Szigetvári) did as well. But neither worked on the logbook or the graphic novels (trust me I spent time looking into this). The entire graphic novel trilogy is drawn by Diana Camero and the Logbook was drawn by a collection of freelance artists- “Art by Tina Fransico and Katrina Mae Hao. Book design by Carolyn Bull”. Frustratingly at least one of the Fnaf wikis credits fizi for the entire book even though it wasnt touched by them as far as we know.
I thought the Logbook art looked too nice to be Fizi... Also thought the wiki listed TTO and TFC under separate artists. Could've sworn PinkyPills did Silver Eyes. I recall seeing her art of the characters - including the Afton kids - that looked a pretty dead on match...
The Charlie been a robot because Matpat said it is true.Since the first book it is imply that Charlie is a robot, for example the closets in his bedroom or the fake blood fund in the are were William was springlock are foreshadowings that were made before Matpat said that Charlie was a robot.
@@Ben-zg8xk Sorry my correction- Fourth closet is drawn by Diana. The first book was indeed drawn by Fizi and then Twisted ones was done by a different Claudia (Claudia Aguirre). So each book was a different person- but I did double check just now that 4th closet was infact drawn by Diana.
I've shilled Shatter Victim to others a few times before, but clearly I never knew much about it. I had no idea it was exclusively used as a CassidyReciever thing.
It kinda is kinda isn’t. It can be used for BVReciever but one of my takes recording accidentally called it a Cassidy theory so once in the video I say it is and once I say it’s just a common way to do it.
3:47, Before Talbert Files: lol Charlie in the minigame fits Casiddy's description from the novels of black straight hair. After Talbert Files: Wait a minute... We don't even ever hear her being called Charlie in the games...
What if "him" in FNAF World is Mike? Meaning the pieces need to be put in place so that Mike can assemble everything in FNAF3? Like a ritual; on the FNAF World-side (spiritual) the digital fragments must be found and arranged just so and then on the physical (living) side of reality Mike has to interact with these things to create that "bridge". Ghosts are spirits trapped in the living world, unable to pass into the spirit world. The spooky eyes is perhaps a ghost on the flipside, the spiritual plain, so to speak, so cannot directly contact the upset ghosts in the physical world... But by creating this "path" or "bridge" with mirroring actions on both sides it creates a way for the spirits to travel, to complete the journey? Further, in FNAF3 all the phantoms are yellowy... Is it possible that they don't represent different ghosts, but are instead all conjured by BV with the color of them all being the same being the "hint" they are all one in the same?
what if the bite victim and the vengful spirit are the same person but split in half. one half remembers his death and all the abuse he suffered under both mike and william, and the other half is more like the kid we see in the fnaf 4 minigames. putting him back together could be putting his memories back together so he can move on.
Am i the only who is completely amused at the fact that logbook kid and graphic novel Cassidy share a light blue shirt out of all things? Is even a very similar color, tho I highly doubt this was intentional since the Fourth Closed graphic novel has a lot of color errors/inconsistencies.
I feel like it’s entirely possible that we collectively miss interpreted everything and the truth is that the crying child is Cassidy and the 5 missing kids included Charlie or something like that idk
I am curious what you think about people connecting the logbook girl with the girl in the Endo Nursery images. The one where the girl in black with same orb bead hair pieces in her hair sitting up in a hospital bed with the fnaf 4's bed spread and lamp.
Cassidy is the bite victim and Scott just forgot about a kid. (He could only count to 4. That's why there's no FNaF 5, too) Some time later Scott remembered basic math, took that 5th kid and gave him an alligator mask and told him to troll the fandom in his absence before ascending.
@@isabelortiz1230 I can keep going, too. Cassidy just has an alter that he talks to. It's the plush and his other personality. The shattered mind broke in two after death, he and his imaginary friend that was actually a different personality. Childhood trauma is a main cause of schizophrenia. (Please know I'm not serious.)
I believe the pig tall girl in the log book is meant to be Cassidy. However, happiest day is not them But it was meant to be her. She gave her place to whoever she's sharing the suit with c.c evan David ect. I believe they're the spirit of golden freddy in ucn and maybe toysnhk but I doubt that What if old man consequences is the consequences and is the one torturing William And wants Cassidy to leave. What if he us the games andrew?
I can’t even fathom what the point of 99% of fnaf theories these days is. its all semantics atp, or people arguing a new/odd interpretation for sake of being different. not saying thats what this is, but god the fact bro even had to make this video proved partially that point.
Honestly, the thing I think is if Molten MCI is a thing, then wouldn't Crying Child would perhaps have been merged and broken apart with the others for the Fun times before Afton properly died or something? So by at least FNaF 3 after sister Location, the souls (or at least parts of them left in the non metal parts), would have helped Crying Child pass on? Perhaps by the metal parts being merged, the little agony left in the fabrics and plastics of the several scraps would have been alleviated?
Dude, you mentioned those bad theories that are just “hair color is the same so it’s the same character” and here in Brazil, when the ruin teaser was released, people started saying that Cassie was Elizabeth Afton.
The puppet could carry the memory part even without Charlie. It was a part of Fredbear's that was moved to fnaf 2's location post it's rebrand. It could have acquired a memory fragment prior to being possessed by Charlie, during it's development stage via Henry as Henry would have been present at the bite victim's failed party alongside Afton. Henry's guilt combined with the agony of that event and it's preceding event in the parts and service room, may have led to the creation of the puppet in the first place. As it was originally a security device and the shopkeeper job in prize corner it has in fnaf 2 was a new purpose for it. A lot of endoskeleton level characters and or mascot parts would have had agony attached during fnaf 4. Because the back storage was a severely painful memory for the bite victim, seriously he cries the most continuously and begs out of fear the most in that scene. Also he WAS there in the FLESH a key requirement for both agony and remnant. If those parts were used in the intermediate years between the final closure of Fredbear's and the NEW rebranded fnaf 2 location by Henry and his technicians, then the puppet could be unwittingly holding a fragment of bite victim's memories before being possessed by Charlie on her fateful day.
I don't think Cassidy was even made up yet during fnaf 1 - world. Sure there always was a 5th mci kid who possessed Golden Freddy and if fnaf 4 did not release that kid would have probably been the happiest day golden kid, but fnaf 4 was made and it seems like Scott tried to tie everything with the happiest day golden kid to BV. (maybe that could have been the retcon no one noticed) Sure it does make you ask what happened to the 5th kid. But I think that FNAF UCN and the Man in room 1280 had tried to show was what happened to the 5th kid and that is, it is not free, it is a vengeful spirit that attached it self to Afton and doesn't let go, while other mci and BV were freed, Cassidy stayed, the reason he is not in the happiest day is cause he doesn't want to be freed, he doesn't want to let go of Afton and we see that in the golden Freddy cutscene in UCN where it twitches unable to let go the past. The reason Cassidy was made was to explain why the 5th kid wasn't in the happiest day. Also as a bonus I want to point out that we don't know Cassidy's gender, we connect the name to the girl in the novels but really it can be a boy like in the movies. The name Cassidy means curly, in the novels Cassidy was a girl with black hair, if we connect these two we can connect Cassidy to Andrew who has black curly hair, for all we know, Cassidy could Andrew's game name or just simply be him saying that he has curly hair lol. Anyways it is good that someone actually finally made a video for people to understand that the happiest day golden kid is BV
The problem I have with the curly hair thing is that Cassidy can also mean clever, and the meaning of names being important has never been a thing in the series before or after. Also the Cassidy in the novels is a completely different character. There’s no vengeful spirit in the novels, but Michael brooks is GF. You can’t take attributes from characters from different continuities with the same name but different roles and use them to prove Andrew is a parallel. I do think Andrew is a parallel but I don’t really agree with the reasoning people use
I can think of a way BV could wind up in the other animatronics. Not saying that I believe this or anything, but what if Golden Freddy was used as a source of spare parts for Bonnie, Chica, Foxy, and Freddy? It’s the same idea behind the Toys acting possessed due to spare parts being salvaged from the Withereds to repairing them. Fazbear’s pretty cheap, and if they have GF lying around not being used, I can imagine the animatronic being used this way
do you think the fnaf movies portrayal of the vengeful spirit can help at all with happiest day, and the mci kids across the different continuities? at least with the very first part, because i feel like the vengeful spirit in the movie had a lot more connections to the one in the games that’s not associated with the black-haired girl in the security log book or cassidy in the novels.
think HD kid is BV and Charlie was helping him to move on since he's only one who had a actual party and make sense as the one putting the mask on for happiest day and the plush was her way of talking to him think picture was just picture of puppet and girl with pigtails since Cassidy has long black hair in the novel and say Cassidy has pigtails in the novel instead
For simplicities sake, I am going to refer to CC as Cassidy. The way I see it, Cassidy’s tears were a conduit for his emotions/memories. Apparently Taggart says in the books that salt water makes for a good conduit of emotions but I can’t confirm this. Anything that Cassidy is shown remembering in the Fnaf 4 mini-games are subject to being influenced by him. The mini-games seem to be Cassidy reliving the bite over and over again. A broken Mangle Toy appears in (presumably) Elizabeth’s room, Mangle in Fnaf 2 resembles the toy. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie both appear as silhouettes in Fredbear’s. A child resembling Balloon Boy appears on the road to Fredbear’s from Cassidy’s house, as do the Toy Animatronics owned by a small girl, notably with Toy Chica missing her beak. Plushtrap appears as a toy outside of Fredbear’s in possession of another young girl. Endo Skeletons are seen when Cassidy is locked in Fredbear’s, explaining the several haunted instances of Endos throughout the games. Fredbear/Golden Freddy obviously bites Cassidy at the conclusion of the mini-games. The plush toys of the main four he surrounds himself with, the ones he calls his friends, would explain why he is able to communicate with them. FoxyBro is an active participant of the mini-games, with him being responsible for the bite. He is seemingly haunted by Golden Freddy, and has nightmares about the animatronics. If he is the runaway, he may have been haunted for a while. Spring Bonnie/William Afton both appear in the mini-games. Assuming that The One You Should Not Have Killed is Cassidy, this would explain how he was able to keep Afton in UCN, and why he says that he will keep him there no matter how many times they try to burn us. I believe that Andrew and Jacob represent the good and bad sides of Cassidy, and the internal conflict inside of him, about whether or not he should move on. I’m not too sure on the identity of the Fredbear plush in the mini-games if I’m honest. It could be William or Charlotte, perhaps it’s both, although I do lean slightly more towards Charlotte as the Fredbear plush seems friendly/helpful in the Fnaf 4 mini-games. I think the survival logbook might also be Charlotte and Cassidy trying to communicate with each other outside of the mini-games, but it might also just be Cassidy talking to himself, but his broken identity doesn’t allow him to recognise himself completely (faded text writes “my name” rather than simply writing their own name, and altered text seemingly has to give the name for them. That and the mirror motif suggests that the two texts are not actually two spirits, but perhaps one and the same. If this is true, perhaps the Fredbear plush was simply Cassidy talking to himself this whole time? It would explain why the Fredbear plush knows so much about his memories. Cassidy might only be able to free himself once he accepts that Fredbear and friends are a large part of his identity. Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy seemingly confirm that as long as Cassidy perceives something to be real, he can manifest it. These two are obviously not real animatronics and yet still exist. Golden Freddy’s lack of appearance in Follow Me may be explained by Shadow Freddy appearing instead. Interestingly, Scott prior to Fnaf World confirmed that only Nightmare Balloon Boy could be Canon, presumably because Balloon Boy is the only animatronic in the Halloween update that Cassidy would be capable of manifesting. I think the reason the other kids do not move on without Cassidy is because they consider Cassidy their friend. Hence “we are still your friends”. I think his unfamiliarity with The Puppet is why Charlotte does not try to help him in give gifts give life, he was too scared to approach her, a mistake she has to try rectify. It’s also why Nightmarionne is only made canon after the events of Fnaf World.
@@spaghettiiwithjuice9826 Honestly the more I think about it, the more i start to believe Cassidy might as well have as less of a chance at being the games-continuity Golden Freddy as Andrew. 💀
@@mylam658I don't understand why people see in every other continuity golden Freddy is possessed by a boy and then suddenly for some reason the game would have the only one where golden Freddy is possessed by Cassidy if the books are supposed to help us fill includes for the games without being an exact parallel I think it's very interesting that the movies in the books all have boys as golden Freddy
Have u seen dual process’ theory cause ngl im kinda onboard with the idea that “Cassidy” is BV’s name, since altered text reveals that name, and finding the last letter comes from help via Mike’s red pen writing. Mike would know his little brother’s name and would wanna help him remember it As for who the faded text writing is? Could be Charlie, could be a second Golden Freddy spirit… im not sure but i really do think “Cassidy” is BV.
The BV's memories could have been divided by agony, which would attach to Fredbear and the masks of the bullies(via the boy's blood, his head was crushed open after all.) which those masks could be assumed to be stolen spare mascot heads given the 4 year gap between fnaf 4 and fnaf 2 timeline wise. Remember Fredbear and friends was active as a tv show before the toy animatronics invention and would have featured the pre salvaged forms of the withereds. Also in fnaf 2 phone guy states that withered Foxy once had a popular show at the restaurant before mangle replaced him, meaning kid's cove was pirates cove originally, besides that, the only thing resembling the toys were merchandise (action figures and plushies)the boy encounters throughout the x-days until the party mini games. The full scale toy animatronics being built caused the withereds to be retired and the restaurant be re-opened with a toy character dominated theme. This agony memory based period would cover 1983-4-5&6 as 1987 was when the toys were made and the restaurant re-opened/re-branded for the Toys to be the new faces of Freddy's. This stolen mascot head idea could be what the breadcrumbs were referring to, he has to get his mind back together from his scary memories and pain to go to the party. Every happiest day prelude mini game animatronic either appeared in his memories of his tragic birthday or was in the restaurant his agony would have attached to,(renevation and expansion doesn't stymie this in fact it helps the idea as the agony afflicted items would see more use via this due to fazbear entertainment's love of re-use of old parts and characters and cutting corners.) hence how they acted as his guides through the agony memories to bring him peace. If the heads used to complete the new bodies of the MCI victims WERE the mascot heads the bullies wore in fnaf 4 then it could explain the breadcrumbs + the reverse the bad party logic. As all his agony would be cleansed, his mind repaired so he's no longer broken and afraid and can go free via happiest day. Soundly resolving this sticking point. The only thing left would be the vengeful spirit who might be old man consequences, a figure that wants others to move on while he attends to business with what remains of Afton. After all fnaf world and happiest day have resolved entirely by the time of old man consequences appearance in UCN, in which he tells a lingering soul that the purpose the stuck around for is done and to leave Afton to his demons (who may be him.).
What if it is both and that is the solution? This requires some form of golden duo, Where Cassidy is stuffed into and possesses the same Springlock Fredbear that caused CC's death [and that CC is also haunting that suit] By this I mean: CC/BV's link to the 4 other masked kids in the trauma of the bully party and their being there is symbolic of the characters being his friends and him forgiving Michael and the Bully Buddies, and his agony being in Fredbear [Possibly being Shadow Freddy]. Cassidy, being one of the MCI, is linked to them through shared agony, and her Remnant powers the Golden Freddy shenanigans. She is in the happiest day due to the Springlock Fredbear/Golden Freddy link and to her, the other party goers are the other MCI kids. Basically the Crying Ghost is CC, the Fredbear mask is Cassidy, the ghosts wearing the other masks are the other MCI kids, and the band masks represent both CC's agony/memories of the masked bullies AND the actual haunted Animatronics the MCI kids are bound to. They are all linked to the Puppet/Charlie through both shared agony with Afton and Puppet/Charlie being a protective meddler [she "put them back together" if you will]
Hey @SireSquawks I have a few questions - do you believe that because Stingers have Charlie after FFPS, does this mean that in games it is also after FFPS? After all, HD will happen either after FFPS or during or after UCN, and the Puppet mask falls slower.I would like to ask you for an answer or a video devoted to this topic. Also my 2 other suggestions are what does OMC minigame mean - Cassidy leaving UCN? Cassidy returns from OMC minigame to UCN? My next proposition is your opinion about Toy Chica The Highschool Years - who is who and who does Foxy's hook represent, if you don't believe in Andrew in games. Also I have the last two questions, one about also TCTHY. Could you comment on about what these cutscenes convey and who the 7th victim is. And why Vengeful Spirit has to be Golden Freddy, which is why UCNDissent doesn't work (this theory assumes that Cassidy as Redbear leaves UCN and only Andrew remains)? Because I think you will speak very well on these topics. Thanks in advance for your reply
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Personally I do think in SOME way this is cassidy, not in the way that ‘it is the TRUE cassidy design’ but instead the representation of her which has some similarities to the real cassidy but not the real deal, of course black hair is the main thing, pigtails..one or two..COULD be likely..but also couldn’t..one of the reasons I believe this is that the security logbook is where cassidy was name dropped in and where this girl appeared, and it ain’t any stock kid like let’s say the fnaf 2 - 3 kids who just where green and blue shirts, mind you that this was before security breach also, heck the girl scared in bed drawing (with a large slash in the painting) could also be a representation of cassidy, back to the topic at hand..also it would make sense for the puppet for giving cassidy cake (which the cake could be a representation of the golden Freddy mask or something like that) and that cassidy was the last kid to either be given life or just came to life by their sheer anger, agony, persistence, whatever
Yeah, I think Cassidy and BV are in the same body, becaus it would make no sense for BV to torture his father forever. I dont get why people think its Cassidy whos in happiest day. It makes no sense with how UCN happens. Espeically since its more implied that the lake guy would be the one to help Cassidy give up on Afton, but even then Cassidy came back in Princess Quest to stop Afton, so she clearly never gave up.
Cassidy listens to OMC advice and rests her own soul. Under ShatterVictim if Cassidy is the remaining piece of the crying child then having her rest would bring the crying child to rest as well so she is the happiest day receiver. Also it’s said that Charlie’s spirit is still lingering on after happiest day because Afton is still out there with his shenanigans, why can’t Cassidy also do the same? This time she learnt her lesson.
I don't Think that Happiest Day, From Fnaf 3 Actually Happened. Because how does Molten Freddy, Who's The Sister Location Animatronics, Who are Also fragments of the Children William killed Decided to Be alive in the first Place? If they found Peace?
It's possible that the SL characters don't have the MCI kids in them. But rather either the Toys or simply random kids that they successfully harvested just like they did Elizabeth. I've always been inclined towards the latter, personally.
I feel like it is cassidy ngl Cassidy also had a birthday at freddys and like the rest of aftons victims would be lured to her death stuffed into the fredbear suit to later become golden freddy Cassidys Birthday was ruined sitting in that backroom in that suit from fnaf 2 to fnaf 1 only making minor apperances like being a floating head in the hallway or ending up in the office for jeremy or michael to see soon after the others as ghosts were being freed and helped they would be around a table with the freddy bonnie chica and foxy mask Cassidy would finally get the birthday she never got and put her golden Freddy mask idk why i wrote this like a story but yeah this is how I think that that kid putting on that mask is cassidy
@@siresquawks Respectfully and earnestly, Why not? It's narratively satisfying if Bite Victim is Cassidy. It means there is one soul attached to Golden Freddy/Fredbear, which I think is cleaner than multiple souls/entities. We know Bite Victim doesn't die from the bite itself so it's possible he could later be one of the MCI kids
@@DecoderWalrus It isn't. In 4 we hear him flatline- which A: Means he's in a hospital and B: means he isn't in a Freddy's getting stuffed. The dialogue in the logbook also doesn't add up. Faded text says "My name" every single time there's a clue for the name puzzle and thus is Cassidy- the altered text contributes to the puzzle- but in the same way that Michael does. Michael isn't Cassidy because he writes some numbers and clues to solve the puzzle- but they still are clues as denoted by "My Name". There is nothing implying the altered text is the same entity as the faded text without making the "Cassidy is Michael" kind of connections- and the Altered Text is the one who says all of the stuff related to the bite victim- "it was for me" "I'm Scared" "I can't see" "What is your name" "I can hear sounds". I mentioned in this video that just because an answer is convenient or solves one chunk of a question better than others doesn't mean it's the full or solid answer to the entire problem. Just as you can make a mountain out of a molehill you can make a motorhome out of a mansion- in this case dismissing an entire character to cut corners on lore. It's easier to say that but that doesn't *always* mean it's right. Miketrap, BVPuppet, Purple guy is phone guy, hell even Mikebot and arguably dream theory were all are examples where an easy answer to slam two characters or some concepts or games into one was chosen over the more complicated answer that would ultimately be closer to the truth.
@@siresquawks I appreciate a response from my favorite FNaF theorist. I can't pretend that I'm so balls deep in the FNaF lore ball pit that I bleed Faz Goo but I thought the Dual Process Theory spun a pretty sound (or at the very least interesting) narrative
Could the difference between Molten MCI -> Molten freddy Amalgam And Happiest day - They also comr together Is that in the first one they are forced into it, and thus its just their agony/combined emotional state, becomes unstable. Meanwhile in Happiest day, we are providing the steps for them to take, to attend the party together Could the difference simply be consent? [Its kinda like trying to duct tape 5 magnets together; Afton is doing it by extreme force, while we are giving them a point of attraction? (What they want)
Honestly logbook girl being Cassidy isn't the most absurd assumption in the world. She is in fact a child with black hair with the only notable color on her being the yellow hair beads, Golden Freddy is yellow and black. Now I know using colors in a fnaf theory will collapse the entire multiverse by most theories' logic on this channel, and that type of reasoning brings us to CC being the Puppet, or Elizabeth being Vanessa, or any instance of any shade of green being Charlie for some reason even though that's Elizabeth's thing, although I disagree with that counter argument because those examples are purely in a vacuum. Vanessa being Elizabeth isn't absurd because color associations are illegal in this franchise, they match the same description, it's absurd because Elizabeth is dead, and burned, and British, and you'd need to bring in robot people to bring her back entirely off screen and very rarely imply they have any connection that can't be explained by Glitchtrap gaslighting her. Context is very important in these discussions. This loser in the logbook is a kid interacting with the puppet, the MCI kids interact with a puppet, and she's being given a cake, which is a thing we know is the main thing Freddy's did, it's a birthday joint. This isn't like, an absurd situation to theoretically see this character at. Plus, yeah it's weird Cassidy doesn't call it out, but this is the logbook which is Cassidy centric, so it being an image of her kinda makes sense, although it definitely could've been handled better. Yeah the Novels disagree on the exact description, but that's assuming the books are more precise in nitty gritty details across mediums than the average heart surgeon when they mess stuff up all the time. For all we know Logbook girl is just Cassidy back in 1983, since the puppet has tear streaks, before her hair grew out and she was murdered two years later. The pigtails matching novel Charlie could be a thematic parallels thing since they're the two most important child victim ghosts, but definitely don't quote me on that. I am absolutely not saying I 100% definitely believe this is Cassidy, I just disagree with demonizing the mere idea of it. Honestly I think people just WANT this to be Cassidy because they're such an important fixture that never seems to definitively show up and objectively do anything. The fact that we can't even decide if Cassidy is a boy or a girl, and that they can be entirely replaced by an entire different kid from Frights in a lot of theories really speaks volumes. To my knowledge, every other major lore character in this franchise has a gender and a physical description, and an idea of why they're important. The only other weird case is CC who is just allergic to having a name. I think people just really want Cassidy to be a more defined character, and having an image of her, and one that proves she's a her, really really helps that. Whether or not that's bad theory etiquette is up to you. I do agree with basically everything else in this video, Happiest Day is most definitely about CC, I just got snagged on that one little thing in the beginning, which is ironic I guess. I'm not trying to make this a 50,000 word hate comment, I was just put off by your arguments with that one image. I love your videos and hope you continue to make them amazing. Also why did you never bring up UCN or Andrew or anything Cassidy possibly appearing after they were supposedly sent to highfive Jesus? That seems kinda important to look into when you're trying to figure out if they've been put to rest yet at a certain point in the timeline.
@@siresquawks just the entity that’s been labeled the vengeful spirit. I do think the vengeful spirit exists, but it’s another character, maybe it’s Michael or the crying child but the name and character of Cassidy I don’t think is. I don’t think there are two spirits within golden Freddy. I think this is just people finding solutions for smaller questions that don’t matter and everyone rolls with the ball. Like the Jeremy being Cassie’s dad yet that theory makes some since and does tie in random things within the games giving us answers to a character that’s been forgotten. The whole time we thought Scott was just using the same name over and over but now it makes since. This is something I like. A theory that makes a confusing narrative a whole. But Cassidy seems to just confused things up. How could two spirits posses one animatronic, and why is this specific kid so special. The crying child being the vengeful spirit makes the most since assuming that he alone possess golden Freddy. But I’m willing to be proved wrong. I just need some kind of evidence that this character exists and has a reason to be pissed and angry
@@isbryanflyingordying2202Other than we have 5 kids went missing in MCI? BV doesn’t work as the Vengeful Spirit because MIR1280 confirmed William is who we play as in UCN and BV can’t be the Vengeful Spirit on William because William never killed BV, Mike did. Now this does have weird wiggle room because in that story Andrew is The Vengeful Spirit so there’s that. Logbook had a prompt that have named the gravestone “Cassidy” so there’s also that, and it isn’t really confirmed if BV is in Golden Freddy other than him connecting to Fredbear symbolically
You kinda left out something, if CC Is the receiver that means there was a fucking retcon there BV and his whole story wasn't even planned out yet when Fnaf 3 came out, so by default the original intent Scott has for happiest day was that the 5th victim was the receiver, if BV Is the receiver instead that means Scott directly retconned Happiest day This Is why this theory doesn't work, because the original intent of Scott was that the 5th victim was the receiver
Eh more of a "Scottcon"- something that wasn't planned at first but was developed over time. It's similar to a retcon in most series but Scott's definition from "The retcon issue" post seems screwier that I'm unsure if this would count.
now im thinking, cassidy/golden freddy is not the vengeful spirit, golden freddy is just intervining, but rather the vengeful spirit is OMC, omc being a angry spirit (andrew) convincing a benelovent spirit (cassidy) to let go and let him do as he pleases "leave the demon to his demons" most likely means "leave afton to me", so omc is just asking cassidy to not intervin in afton torture, and cassidy be kind to every mci kid and cc makes her less vengeful than a "vengeful spirit", and the animatronics refering "the vengeful spirit" as male is not because of the animatronic, its refering to the spirit itself: "*he's* here, and always watching, the one you shoudn't have killed"
my problem with that would be that it doesnt really make much sense of OMC to appear in fnaf world if hes andrew, and how OMC is portrayed in princess quest doesnt match with andrews personality
@@thisnameanothername2156 so what is the point of omc being a alligator just as andrew, and cassidy being the vengeful spirit doesnt make sense either because she's kind to everyone and the mci, andrew is a dick with everyone, something that a vengeful person would be
@@Wizardjones69 but omc isnt a dick to cassidy, like hes pretty emotionless and cold but thats not andrew, and cassidy is still really hostile to the adults, like she is the one to kill phone guy
@@docrilas that breaks the timeline of the epilogues though, like unless the OMC cutscene happens after the epilogues (which breaks the argument for leave the demon to his demons being about andrew) they both exist at the same time
My hot take is that Cassidy in the games is male. TOYSNHK is referred to with he/him pronouns, Cassidy is a unisex name, and the picture of TOYSNHK in UCN is of one of Scott's sons (iirc). I'd even go so far as to say that Cassidy's true parallel in the books is Andrew, and that people overlook it because they think Cassidy is a girl. Female Cassidy in the books might also be a Cassidy parallel, or just another case of FNAF's same-name syndrome. I don't know much about book Cassidy, so I can't comment. AND, since we're talking about how Happiest Day was executed as well, here's my idea of what happens in FNAF World. The protagonist is Phone Guy. We hear him be killed by Golden Freddy in FNAF 1's phone calls. But when Cassidy kills him and finds that he isn't Afton, she sets him to new purpose: becoming the protag of FNAF World, where he can help to free CC. Your guide through the game is of course Cassidy, hence how this works. I think the other characters in FNAF World could be fragments of the souls of the FNAF 2 MCI kids who weren't stuffed. FNAF World is the weird afterlife you end up in if you have an animatronic-related death, but don't possess a suit. Could also explain why the main character is a Freddy, since Phone Guy was probably stuffed into that spare Freddy suit we see on death screens in FNAF 1. He didn't have enough power to possess the suit, and Puppet didn't gift him life, so to FNAF World he goes. Maybe this is too crazy, but I think it's at least an interesting idea.
@@sworishinathey could be referring to TOYSNHK with Golden Freddy's pronouns instead of the spirits actual pronouns, much like how the Puppet is always using male pronouns depsite being posessed by a girl
Does she even matter? Like she has never been confirmed to have any importance, hell I would argue it's not even confirmed if she is the 5th victim. We know Afton killed way more then 5 kids she may just be a additional one. The whole community understanding of this character is made of half baked assumptions
I think it’s Cassidy cause I really don’t think Garrett (don’t hyperfocus on this) is GF at all Like narrative wise he’s a useless NPC Evidence wise is euuuugh
The masks being because at his party people were wearing masks doesn’t make sense IMO. The people wearing masks were the people who killed him. Why would he want a mask to be like them? It would be like if the others wanted to dress up as animals because there was a yellow rabbit when they went to Freddy’s, or if Charlie wanted to drive because she saw a cool purple car. (Unless this is symbolic of him forgiving Mike or something.)
I think of it as setting right what didn’t happen. The party was for him- it was supposed to be his happiest day. The main 4 are basically overwriting what happened with a good version of the event. It’s not like them wearing masks was the problem in the original party it was that they were bullying him and forced him to go near an animatronic he was afraid of. He likes the characters- he calls the plushies his friends- it isn’t that weird for him to like them in a better context. It’s basically him finding real friends and making a bad thing right.
The logbook girl is Cassidy and it shows she's the happiest day kid. That is obvious I feel like focusing on nitpicks like 'its not long black hair' or the like is focusing too much on minor details and not the clear and obvious details. It's a girl in the golden Freddy position of the happiest day on a page talking about the happiest day. BV being connected to HD does not require him to be the receiver at all.
it's always been BV, Give Gift Give Life kids, and Charlie Cassidy didn't receive anything and only connected with BV by Golden Freddy Cassidy work hard in FNAF World to put that clues in Follow me
Literally fnaf 3 end Victims of purple guy get free Cassidy get free with missing kids Bv is not part of missing kids Fnaf world get created by fredbear plush Cassidy dies year 1985
Scott can have ideas and let it open for future games, or just let it be mystery if FNAF3 just end there in my opinion BV/CC already planned since FNAF1 "it's me" and Golden Freddy being the weird one from other animatronic need explanation and you can't find it if just from FNAF1-3 in FNAF4 it explained that BV a birthday boy and always crying so it's normal conclusion to connect it with child who is crying in FNAF3
@Sonicmidfnaf 4 was the planned finale game original tagline was originally finale chapter and literally explaining who the happiest day was meant for bite kid never had his birthday and mci kids gave him it sitting him free and giving them no purpose to stay there
@@Deadhead-kq4hrit wasnt planned, fnaf 3 was the final game but people hated it so Scott made fnaf 4, people thought fnaf 4 didnt have enough lore so he made SL, one of the most lore packed games in the series,after that he actually started to plan things out.
@@Deadhead-kq4hr Okay, but that just means that the "original ending" would have failed to explain what happened to the fifth MCI kid, if Happiest Day was supposed to be for CC. Because under this logic, we can't even say "oh, they're not at the party because they go on to become the Vengeful Spirit", because the VS obviously didn't exist yet.
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Why are people so obsessed with putting Cassidy in roles that Sans would fit better?
Surely you mean Ness, right?
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Honestly, yeah, why?
@@strisselstudios3932but that’s just a theory of games.
At least we can agree she’s not some new kid who came out of nowhere wearing an alligator mask..
Cause that would be stupid.
@SonicmidYou can't tease something if the information that makes it a teaser comes from things established after the fact.
that's called a retcon.
@Sonicmid Neither of those scream "Andrew teaser" at all though????
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i wish scott can just give us a bible sized explanation
I feel like that's not happening soon because there's still this wish from Steel Wool to make a FNAF game in the past(they have talked about wanting to touch the begginings of Fazbear Entertainment or a Fredbear's Family Dinner game), so a bible explaining stuff, even it was just FNAF 1 to UCN, details from the start of the timeline would still be up to changes.
If that happened FNAF theorizing would be totally dead lol
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You say that, but no one really wants the "answers" because people will still fight over it
But then everyone's investment in the series would die out.
I'm hoping basic stuff like "who is who" won't be such a massive debate at some point.
Feels like these should have been sorted out forever ago. XD
I know, right? These don't even feel like they should be questions. When I see these questions being asked, it makes me feel less like this is an intentional mystery, and more like something went wrong when presenting the mystery.
Ever play Clue? 6 central questions of a mystery are Who, What, When, Why, How, and To Whom. The frustration/brilliance of FNAF is that there are dozens of mysterious events and not a single one has had more than like 3 of these questions answered. Like Scott will give us a Who and a What but not the When or the Whom. Or he'll present 2 similar events but leave out the When on one and the Who on the other, driving people bonkers wondering if there are actually 2 separate events or just one. And don't even get me started on the red herrings. That's when you think one of the questions is answered but it was a misdirection. The culprit was wearing a wig! The victim and killer are actually working together! There is no killer, the victim died of natural causes!
something about the argument that BV can't be the happiest day kid because FNAF was originally going to end at 3 is especially silly because FNAF 1 was originally going to be a standalone so you could argue that Mangle(or any toy animatronic really) couldn't have done the bite of 87 because it would of originally been one of the classics under that context.
so this is a misconception, fnaf 1 was going to be the only one if the game wasnt successful, but scott already had the basic's of 2 and 3's plot, (i argee with your actual argument)
@@thisnameanothername2156 ohh thanks for correction!
Yeah and I’m pretty sure in the Dawko interview Scott literally says he had conceptions of what each game would become up to sister location when he was making fnaf 2 so fnaf 4 was partially planned during the creation of fnaf 3. And like you said it’s one continuous story he even says that in the matpat stream it’s 4 games 1 story. the 4th game isn’t separate from the others story wise it’s a direct continuation. And also that revelation of Scott saying sister location was planned out means that dream theory is completely dead and never was the case so the 4 games 1 story thing was referring to something other than that and it could very well have been saying that bite victim was the happiest day recipient
and especially The Talbert Files showed that Scott did more than one retcon
@@docrilas technically that isn't a retcon cause it wasn't made canon in the first place cause it wasn't released, it proves that Scott made other versions of the story, but a retcon is too far
I’m really glad to hear you say that you’re considering if it’s “unwritable”. That’s one lens I always use to analyse my own and other peoples theories. It’s important to ask “if that’s true why would they write it like that, what’s the goal”. Trying to imagine a situation where someone working on the logbook is told to include that image of the girl with black pigtails to represent Cassidy is an important way of thinking about theories like that ehich cross different forms of media and different companies and people writing fnaf content
I almost feel like when we’re in this deep talking about the smallest lines and details in novels and promotional material, we’ve gone too far. I don’t think Scott or whoever was in charge of writing or drawing at the time meant for something this small to mean so much to the lore.
I feel it might be better to draw a satisfying story out of the FNAF timeline, rather than trying to fit every small piece of lore from all over the franchise. And at that it would definitely be better to prioritize details from the games themselves wherever possible, and treat the books more as guidelines rather than conclusive statements.
While i think it originally was Cassidy/Golden Freddy Kid since FNaF3 was the end of the trilogy and The Happiest Day wasn’t a metaphorical forgotten Birthday party but more of a Generic Celevration Happy ending thing.
But after FNaF4.I pretty sure that only BV can be the HD kid. Not only because the Birthday theme is super exclusive to him.but also because Who Else is Tied to Fredbear/Golden Freddy and Would have their Birthday was their Happiest day is Not the kid that died at Fredbears,to Fredbear himself and at their own Birthday.
That doesn’t explain why his memories form the foundation for saving all the other kids, though. Like, all four of the other kids have to be found in this weird supernatural space made up of his memories, so why wouldn’t Cassidy? Hell, the fact that she is the only other person who is connected to Fredbear/GF, and is the only spirit among them who has spoken to him in the logbook and possibly FNAF World, it could be said that it’s fitting that the memory she is in is his most important one.
It could be argued, as Squawks kinda did, that that makes sense in a mechanical sense rather than emotional, but I mean… that’s not really a counter to it. lol
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I think if you believe Cassidy is the VS, your first question is easily answered because she obviously wouldn't rest in peace with the other kids as she'd continue to torture William in UCN.
@@damkylan3I mean… technically yeah? But also eh…
Like yeah mechanically it is a little odd (at least now it is; back around 3-4 I feel like everyone was fine saying it was weird ghost stuff because remnent wasn’t a big thing yet), but just as a person who consumes fiction, I can’t fathom why Scott would add all the HD parallels to the big bite in a game RIGHT AFTER if it wasn’t supposed to convey that this is the HD child aka mysterious fan favorite Golden Freddy’s backstory. Especially since Scotts stated that he tries to clear up confusing stuff in the following game.
Yeah I know it can just be his memories for why it’s the FNAF 4 pizzeria and the 4 kids evoking the bullies can be coincidence, but then…. Well why not just make it CC then? What’s the point of him otherwise? Idk it just feels too obvious for me.😅
@@THE_END.ヽThat’s not a counter argument. Cassidy the vengeful spirit DOES rest her soul, she does listen to old man consequences advice, the only way to leave is to head into the pond which in FNaF world leads to your happiest day. This would be followed by the happiest day we see in FNaF 3 where the rest of the MCI who were apart of Molten Freddy are waiting for her. If all their souls are put to rest then that ultimately sets the crying child’s soul free since the remaining fragments of his soul lay within the MCI.
@@Trontotario I never said she didn't, of course she does, but with things like the order of the graves in HW and the number colored balloons in the Pizzaplex, I think they show the order in which the kids rest in peace (overall because Charlie obviously wasn't the last one to die), making Cassidy the last to rest. C.C can be set free without the need of Cassidy to be set free as well by using his happy memories, just like how Jake sets Andrew free in the Stitchwraith Stingers (presumably, as we never see Andrew again) using a happy memory of his own.
I like how I agreed with almost every one of your points against ShatterVictim even tho I believe the theory lmao. The only reason as to why I even am a ShatterVictimer is because there isn't really any other way how the FNAF 3 minigames make sense IMO(I could just believe FreeVictim, but that's kinda boring y'know?).
Not to mention, this video might've converted me to BVReceiver mostly cuz it makes ShatterVictim better and a little more easy to understand. CassidyReceiver never really explains what happened to him after Happiest Day now that I think about it.
Great job on defending this theory from the community's unnecessarily rude treatment towards it! This was a pleasant watch!
Also, small nitpick at 12:11, I'm pretty sure that the first Freddy's location already existed before BV died because Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy appeared in the "Fredbear & Friends" show and have their own merch.
I know that Mystery in the LOORRREE is a part of the fandom now but if Scott and Co. ever release official images of what everyone looks like, I'd be so happy and buy 20 of whatever they put it in because I know damned well a Reveal like that wouldn't be online. It would be physical Merch. I'd actually love a picture book of everyone, TBH. I've always pictured Cassidy as a mix of the Logbook Little Girl and TOYSHK from UCN. And I always thought that Happiest Day Golden Freddy was Crying Child (Evan, to me...) because he doesn't strike me as the type to want Revenge over Peace. The poor little guy didn't have a peaceful Life. He'd jump at the chance to have a peaceful Afterlife. No More Pain.
Agree
hope if they would ever do that, they get a different illustrator (or have steel wool do it ig) since man do those graphic novels look wacky. not a huge issue for a comic but anytime they're used outside of them they hurt to look at (stuff like the fnaf encyclopedia or fnaf theory videos with that ugly ass henry image)
Me too, fr fr.
@@Sopsy_HallowFor real, why did they make him look SOOOO British?
Golden Freddy was stuck in the same building with the MCI victims so no matter what, they are connected and BV wouldn't move on without his friends even though he could as we see with Jake in Stitchrafe not choosing to move on until the "pieces"* left by Andrew were fixed.
As for BV being broken, he is literally stuck to his bed in a coma/un-moving state on life support, meaning being put back together means helping the spirit by "fixing" what had resulted in their death. This is further evident by Jake basically jot being able to do what he wanted to do and with Elizabeth having the chance to make up for not obeying William which resulted in her death and (as we see in FNAF 6) Elizabeth wants to make William proud which to her means she's righting a wrong.
Cassidy is basically helping the Puppet undo what happened to BV, which was having his party and having the MCI kids (standing in for his plush friends) be their. Which can also likely mean that Charlie died first and that was what BV saw making him scared of the animatronics, meaning Charlie must be their so BV can know the animatronics were not originally killing machines and what happened to BV was an accident caused my Michael taking out aggression on him with William's and Ms Afton's divorce.
I know this isn't relevant but the part about Elizabeth wanting to make william Afton proud to make up for disobeying him... GOD... I want custody
Fnaf theories reddit is going to hate this one 🤣. But i love it.
It’s ironic how r/fnaftheories started throwing a fit and made a post that’s probably relating to Sire the goat
This was shortly after he made this video
Question: In FNAF2, why are there two forms of Golden Freddy? Why is there a floating, gapping-jaw head and a "traditional" (mirroring FNAF1's pose) sitting one? Is it just because Golden Freddy is incorporeal (a ghostly vision) that it can do that or is it to symbolize different spirits? Something very much associated with the head / the mouth of Golden Freddy and then something associated with the springlock suit as a whole? I kind of wonder about it because in FNAF4 Mike scared his brother by wearing a foxy mask and surprising him and here is a Golden Freddy face popping out from the shadows.
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Charlie's hair could just be black in the Security Puppet mini game since she is stuck outside in the rain, which could darken brown hair to black.
I do think Cassidy is pigtail girl, but she is not the HD receiver
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Okay, I REALLY appreciate all the ShatterVictim call-outs, a ton of what you say about it working on leaps of faith and having the same problems as other theories turned up to 11 is exactly what I've been saying for months now! It's refreshing to know I'm not the only one who feels that way.
The more people try to explain ShatterVictim to me, the more absurd and overwhelming it gets. For example, not too long ago I got into a discussion on Reddit where someone tried to argue that everything from the designs of Balloon Boy, Mangle and the Puppet, to Foxy's jumpscare, to the gameplay structure of Sister Location are all a result of ShatterVictim. At that point I don't even think "shatter" does it justice anymore, it should be called "VaporiseVictim" or something.
Also I really love the Billy Bob Jenkins analogy, really funny.
I'm a ShatterVictimer and I cringe everytime someone tries to make the theory more complicated then it already is.
And even I can admit that the "distance issue" is still there. Why do people rip on GoldenDuo for this, but ShatterVictim gets a pass?
@@Eddbruh83 exactly! I can't tell you how many times people with ShatterVictim in their user flair have criticised me for believing GoldenDuo.
And yeah, in its simplest form, whilst I still disagree with ShatterVictim, I can definitely see why people believe it.
@@randomrhino4371 Don't worry buddy, I know how you feel because I also used to be a GoldenDuoer(still kinda am tho, the art for it is pretty sick sometimes).
Also, it's very funny how when you ask most ShatterVictimers about the distance issue, they won't even adress it and then change the topic 💀
"VaporiseVictim" 😭😭😭
It's really not that complicated considering it's just "DreamTheory, but real" lol. Like with DT, everything in the original story (meaning up until FNAF6) ties back to CC, his powerful emotions, and his traumatic memories. Except his spiritual agony is so strong it affects the real world like a curse. That's it. I get why it would seem overwhelming if you get bogged down in the mechanical details of it, but I don't think we should. It's like trying to question why Michael Brooks leaves a piece of his soul with Carlton to avert his death in Fourth Closet, because what? lol
I mean, there's two ways we can go about this. Either the many bad things that follow FazEnt around, which ALL tie back to CC's traumas in some way (the multiple springlock accidents being tied to his fear of this happening based on scary rumors, the MCI being directly tied to his "friends", Charlie dying as a result of bullying (CC's visual similarities with the Puppet are important here) and then "giving life" to the MCI just like him with his "friends" which led to many other deaths, etc.) are a result of what is basically a curse that began when he died... or it's all a bunch of coincidences that only symbolically tie back to him. Honestly, either one works. Point is, the connections aren't a stretch. They're all real and intentional.
For what it's worth, The Silver Eyes might explain the logic to this, when the group is talking about ghosts and hauntings. Charlie says that she believes memories are left behind and attach to places even if there's no actual ghost there. Then Marla talks about how she sometimes feels certain emotions in certain places, and that maybe we constantly leave pieces of our fear, regret, and hope in all the places we go, and specifically talks about how a certain space she loved as a kid seemed to literally turn dark and "wrong" after her grandmother died. It's not exact, but it's pretty close. And this would have been written in 2015, literally right after FNAF4.
I saw the thumbnail and thought to myself "Its the crying child? right" That was my impression at least, i never thought it was cassidy
I just looked at the FNAF theorist subreddit and there’s a drawing in ITP that features pigtails girl from the logbook as one of the missing kids.
Completely unrelated but i love the bg music you use so much.
0:22
1. 2:10 As said, Susie is the same in both since she has the Pizza Sim design.
2. 0:30 The unnamed kid, who is probably Gabriel, has a Black and White Striped Shirt
3. Fritz is described to have Freckles.
4. Cassidy has long black hair.
Aside from Susie, literally all the MCI kid GN designs are wrong 😆
2:38 (personal theory time) and 3, "has their animatronic's eye colour in their design."
1. Susie's "Pinkish Purple" Dress.
2. Charlie's trilogy designs wear green, matching the security puppet's eyes (due to the green tag)
3. Logbook girl's Shirt (you can slightly see light blue on the shirt, which we know movie golden Freddy + SB Poster Fredbear have Blue, like Freddy's, while normal Golden freddy shares it's blacked out eyes with the toys, which we know isnt their actual eye colour)
4. Gabriel's novel counter part has a Black and White Shirt, like BV (who has blue pants, like Freddy's eyes) Also by mixing this and GN design, you could get a design similar to Movie Jeremy's design.😂
5. Purple guy keeps the white eyes from his original sprite when he becomes springtrap
6. Elizabeth keeps her green eyes when she possesses Baby.
3:12-3:25 of course if you take what I just said too broadly, as "this=that character because they both have this one colour" then.....3:20
The problem I have with using "a girl with long black hair" as evidence of anything related to Cassidy is that every single subsequent appearance of any character who can be assumed to be Cassidy is of a girl with dirty blonde hair. Sure, this is debatable depending on whether you think the vengeful spirit is Cassidy, but assuming it is, then we have five appearances over three different continuities of a probably-Cassidy (books, UCN, Security Breach, the movie, and Help Wanted 2) that are all blonde, implying to me that any reference to a girl with black hair is probably not supposed to Cassidy?
Lol, I just also realized this but the girl with 2 pigtails in the picture where she’s getting a present from the puppet can’t be Charlie because the puppet in that picture has tear streaks on the mask which means the puppet is already possessed by Charlie. Awesome video by the way!
I was planning to make a hot take of FNAF's inconsistent illustrations for another channel, and here's my findings:
The pink pill did the Fruity Maze Susie and TSE graphic novel, (I also eventually saw she had a bow much like Elizabeth.) While the Fizzy one did the Logbook.
Every graphic novel afterwards was done by a different person who was given no specifics as one actually stated.
The Fizz even seemed to admit such for the Character Encyclopedia, too.
Heh, the Ultimate Guide not acknowledging Gabriel's name with the others, then showing the comic panel that does is probably my favorite part of it. XD
Lately I've been thinking a conspiracy that much of Scott's FNAF lore was built of stuff Matpat said in his love of trolling him. Like Charlie being a robot in TFC exists because Mat said it in his Twisted Ones video.
To take it a step further in comparing blonde proto-Cassie with Amelia or Elizabeth, I think i got her name mixed up with an Abigail (was that Steve's fake wife?) which made me link her to Abby from the movie, and sent me down a crazy spiral of comparing Chica's and Baby's. And I had NO idea that Abigail was a common placeholder name for Afton's daughter pre FFPS, likely via the BABY acronym the movie did. I still like to use it for a Ruin canon divergence in my mind.
Also most fanart of pigtail Cassidy has overalls. No idea where that stems from...
PinkyPills is Claudia Schröder- who did art in FNaF 6 yes and LadyFizi (real name
Emese Szigetvári) did as well. But neither worked on the logbook or the graphic novels (trust me I spent time looking into this).
The entire graphic novel trilogy is drawn by Diana Camero and the Logbook was drawn by a collection of freelance artists- “Art by Tina Fransico and Katrina Mae Hao. Book design by Carolyn Bull”.
Frustratingly at least one of the Fnaf wikis credits fizi for the entire book even though it wasnt touched by them as far as we know.
I thought the Logbook art looked too nice to be Fizi...
Also thought the wiki listed TTO and TFC under separate artists.
Could've sworn PinkyPills did Silver Eyes. I recall seeing her art of the characters - including the Afton kids - that looked a pretty dead on match...
The Charlie been a robot because Matpat said it is true.Since the first book it is imply that Charlie is a robot, for example the closets in his bedroom or the fake blood fund in the are were William was springlock are foreshadowings that were made before Matpat said that Charlie was a robot.
@@siresquawksthe novels are all by the sam person? Why does the art style vary so much then?
@@Ben-zg8xk Sorry my correction- Fourth closet is drawn by Diana. The first book was indeed drawn by Fizi and then Twisted ones was done by a different Claudia (Claudia Aguirre). So each book was a different person- but I did double check just now that 4th closet was infact drawn by Diana.
I've shilled Shatter Victim to others a few times before, but clearly I never knew much about it. I had no idea it was exclusively used as a CassidyReciever thing.
It kinda is kinda isn’t. It can be used for BVReciever but one of my takes recording accidentally called it a Cassidy theory so once in the video I say it is and once I say it’s just a common way to do it.
@@siresquawks Oh, alright. Thank you for explaining.
3:47,
Before Talbert Files: lol Charlie in the minigame fits Casiddy's description from the novels of black straight hair.
After Talbert Files: Wait a minute... We don't even ever hear her being called Charlie in the games...
What if "him" in FNAF World is Mike? Meaning the pieces need to be put in place so that Mike can assemble everything in FNAF3? Like a ritual; on the FNAF World-side (spiritual) the digital fragments must be found and arranged just so and then on the physical (living) side of reality Mike has to interact with these things to create that "bridge". Ghosts are spirits trapped in the living world, unable to pass into the spirit world. The spooky eyes is perhaps a ghost on the flipside, the spiritual plain, so to speak, so cannot directly contact the upset ghosts in the physical world... But by creating this "path" or "bridge" with mirroring actions on both sides it creates a way for the spirits to travel, to complete the journey? Further, in FNAF3 all the phantoms are yellowy... Is it possible that they don't represent different ghosts, but are instead all conjured by BV with the color of them all being the same being the "hint" they are all one in the same?
Right, any more evidence?
what if the bite victim and the vengful spirit are the same person but split in half. one half remembers his death and all the abuse he suffered under both mike and william, and the other half is more like the kid we see in the fnaf 4 minigames. putting him back together could be putting his memories back together so he can move on.
Am i the only who is completely amused at the fact that logbook kid and graphic novel Cassidy share a light blue shirt out of all things? Is even a very similar color, tho I highly doubt this was intentional since the Fourth Closed graphic novel has a lot of color errors/inconsistencies.
I feel like it’s entirely possible that we collectively miss interpreted everything and the truth is that the crying child is Cassidy and the 5 missing kids included Charlie or something like that idk
I am curious what you think about people connecting the logbook girl with the girl in the Endo Nursery images. The one where the girl in black with same orb bead hair pieces in her hair sitting up in a hospital bed with the fnaf 4's bed spread and lamp.
Cassidy is the bite victim and Scott just forgot about a kid. (He could only count to 4. That's why there's no FNaF 5, too)
Some time later Scott remembered basic math, took that 5th kid and gave him an alligator mask and told him to troll the fandom in his absence before ascending.
Bro did not just say that
@@isabelortiz1230 I can keep going, too.
Cassidy just has an alter that he talks to. It's the plush and his other personality. The shattered mind broke in two after death, he and his imaginary friend that was actually a different personality.
Childhood trauma is a main cause of schizophrenia.
(Please know I'm not serious.)
Best explaination of Andrew TOYSNHK 😂
Tbh I'm questioning if Cassidy didn’t get retconned out of existing/if they ever existed at all
My head cannon is that during the Happy Happy minigame it's the crying child that gets its soul released
cassidees nuts lmao
I believe the pig tall girl in the log book is meant to be Cassidy. However, happiest day is not them But it was meant to be her. She gave her place to whoever she's sharing the suit with c.c evan David ect. I believe they're the spirit of golden freddy in ucn and maybe toysnhk but I doubt that What if old man consequences is the consequences and is the one torturing William And wants Cassidy to leave. What if he us the games andrew?
I've realized that im recent times they've been painting Cassidy as blondish
22:23 sire squawks made a sonic reference?! :O
I can’t even fathom what the point of 99% of fnaf theories these days is. its all semantics atp, or people arguing a new/odd interpretation for sake of being different. not saying thats what this is, but god the fact bro even had to make this video proved partially that point.
Honestly, the thing I think is if Molten MCI is a thing, then wouldn't Crying Child would perhaps have been merged and broken apart with the others for the Fun times before Afton properly died or something? So by at least FNaF 3 after sister Location, the souls (or at least parts of them left in the non metal parts), would have helped Crying Child pass on? Perhaps by the metal parts being merged, the little agony left in the fabrics and plastics of the several scraps would have been alleviated?
Dude, you mentioned those bad theories that are just “hair color is the same so it’s the same character” and here in Brazil, when the ruin teaser was released, people started saying that Cassie was Elizabeth Afton.
If Dual Process is to be belived, then cassidy would be the bite victim.
IMO Dual Process isn’t to be believed.
@@siresquawks What problems do you have with them?
The puppet could carry the memory part even without Charlie. It was a part of Fredbear's that was moved to fnaf 2's location post it's rebrand. It could have acquired a memory fragment prior to being possessed by Charlie, during it's development stage via Henry as Henry would have been present at the bite victim's failed party alongside Afton. Henry's guilt combined with the agony of that event and it's preceding event in the parts and service room, may have led to the creation of the puppet in the first place. As it was originally a security device and the shopkeeper job in prize corner it has in fnaf 2 was a new purpose for it. A lot of endoskeleton level characters and or mascot parts would have had agony attached during fnaf 4. Because the back storage was a severely painful memory for the bite victim, seriously he cries the most continuously and begs out of fear the most in that scene. Also he WAS there in the FLESH a key requirement for both agony and remnant. If those parts were used in the intermediate years between the final closure of Fredbear's and the NEW rebranded fnaf 2 location by Henry and his technicians, then the puppet could be unwittingly holding a fragment of bite victim's memories before being possessed by Charlie on her fateful day.
Honestly I've never heard fredbear kid is Cassidy before
This is a great video :)
I don't think Cassidy was even made up yet during fnaf 1 - world. Sure there always was a 5th mci kid who possessed Golden Freddy and if fnaf 4 did not release that kid would have probably been the happiest day golden kid, but fnaf 4 was made and it seems like Scott tried to tie everything with the happiest day golden kid to BV. (maybe that could have been the retcon no one noticed) Sure it does make you ask what happened to the 5th kid. But I think that FNAF UCN and the Man in room 1280 had tried to show was what happened to the 5th kid and that is, it is not free, it is a vengeful spirit that attached it self to Afton and doesn't let go, while other mci and BV were freed, Cassidy stayed, the reason he is not in the happiest day is cause he doesn't want to be freed, he doesn't want to let go of Afton and we see that in the golden Freddy cutscene in UCN where it twitches unable to let go the past.
The reason Cassidy was made was to explain why the 5th kid wasn't in the happiest day.
Also as a bonus I want to point out that we don't know Cassidy's gender, we connect the name to the girl in the novels but really it can be a boy like in the movies. The name Cassidy means curly, in the novels Cassidy was a girl with black hair, if we connect these two we can connect Cassidy to Andrew who has black curly hair, for all we know, Cassidy could Andrew's game name or just simply be him saying that he has curly hair lol.
Anyways it is good that someone actually finally made a video for people to understand that the happiest day golden kid is BV
The problem I have with the curly hair thing is that Cassidy can also mean clever, and the meaning of names being important has never been a thing in the series before or after. Also the Cassidy in the novels is a completely different character. There’s no vengeful spirit in the novels, but Michael brooks is GF. You can’t take attributes from characters from different continuities with the same name but different roles and use them to prove Andrew is a parallel. I do think Andrew is a parallel but I don’t really agree with the reasoning people use
@@Ben-zg8xk Yeah, I agree. I’m just theorizing, but not every theory is likely are more of ideas of what if it is true but there is not much evidence
I can think of a way BV could wind up in the other animatronics. Not saying that I believe this or anything, but what if Golden Freddy was used as a source of spare parts for Bonnie, Chica, Foxy, and Freddy? It’s the same idea behind the Toys acting possessed due to spare parts being salvaged from the Withereds to repairing them. Fazbear’s pretty cheap, and if they have GF lying around not being used, I can imagine the animatronic being used this way
do you think the fnaf movies portrayal of the vengeful spirit can help at all with happiest day, and the mci kids across the different continuities? at least with the very first part, because i feel like the vengeful spirit in the movie had a lot more connections to the one in the games that’s not associated with the black-haired girl in the security log book or cassidy in the novels.
think HD kid is BV and Charlie was helping him to move on since he's only one who had a actual party and make sense as the one putting the mask on for happiest day and the plush was her way of talking to him think picture was just picture of puppet and girl with pigtails since Cassidy has long black hair in the novel and say Cassidy has pigtails in the novel instead
For simplicities sake, I am going to refer to CC as Cassidy.
The way I see it, Cassidy’s tears were a conduit for his emotions/memories. Apparently Taggart says in the books that salt water makes for a good conduit of emotions but I can’t confirm this. Anything that Cassidy is shown remembering in the Fnaf 4 mini-games are subject to being influenced by him. The mini-games seem to be Cassidy reliving the bite over and over again.
A broken Mangle Toy appears in (presumably) Elizabeth’s room, Mangle in Fnaf 2 resembles the toy. Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie both appear as silhouettes in Fredbear’s. A child resembling Balloon Boy appears on the road to Fredbear’s from Cassidy’s house, as do the Toy Animatronics owned by a small girl, notably with Toy Chica missing her beak. Plushtrap appears as a toy outside of Fredbear’s in possession of another young girl. Endo Skeletons are seen when Cassidy is locked in Fredbear’s, explaining the several haunted instances of Endos throughout the games. Fredbear/Golden Freddy obviously bites Cassidy at the conclusion of the mini-games. The plush toys of the main four he surrounds himself with, the ones he calls his friends, would explain why he is able to communicate with them. FoxyBro is an active participant of the mini-games, with him being responsible for the bite. He is seemingly haunted by Golden Freddy, and has nightmares about the animatronics. If he is the runaway, he may have been haunted for a while. Spring Bonnie/William Afton both appear in the mini-games. Assuming that The One You Should Not Have Killed is Cassidy, this would explain how he was able to keep Afton in UCN, and why he says that he will keep him there no matter how many times they try to burn us.
I believe that Andrew and Jacob represent the good and bad sides of Cassidy, and the internal conflict inside of him, about whether or not he should move on.
I’m not too sure on the identity of the Fredbear plush in the mini-games if I’m honest. It could be William or Charlotte, perhaps it’s both, although I do lean slightly more towards Charlotte as the Fredbear plush seems friendly/helpful in the Fnaf 4 mini-games. I think the survival logbook might also be Charlotte and Cassidy trying to communicate with each other outside of the mini-games, but it might also just be Cassidy talking to himself, but his broken identity doesn’t allow him to recognise himself completely (faded text writes “my name” rather than simply writing their own name, and altered text seemingly has to give the name for them. That and the mirror motif suggests that the two texts are not actually two spirits, but perhaps one and the same. If this is true, perhaps the Fredbear plush was simply Cassidy talking to himself this whole time? It would explain why the Fredbear plush knows so much about his memories. Cassidy might only be able to free himself once he accepts that Fredbear and friends are a large part of his identity.
Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy seemingly confirm that as long as Cassidy perceives something to be real, he can manifest it. These two are obviously not real animatronics and yet still exist. Golden Freddy’s lack of appearance in Follow Me may be explained by Shadow Freddy appearing instead.
Interestingly, Scott prior to Fnaf World confirmed that only Nightmare Balloon Boy could be Canon, presumably because Balloon Boy is the only animatronic in the Halloween update that Cassidy would be capable of manifesting.
I think the reason the other kids do not move on without Cassidy is because they consider Cassidy their friend. Hence “we are still your friends”. I think his unfamiliarity with The Puppet is why Charlotte does not try to help him in give gifts give life, he was too scared to approach her, a mistake she has to try rectify. It’s also why Nightmarionne is only made canon after the events of Fnaf World.
I have always been wondering how in the hell did people think that a random kid on the page was Cassidy
people are desperate for any info on them, which i can't really blame em
@@spaghettiiwithjuice9826 Honestly the more I think about it, the more i start to believe Cassidy might as well have as less of a chance at being the games-continuity Golden Freddy as Andrew. 💀
@@mylam658I don't understand why people see in every other continuity golden Freddy is possessed by a boy and then suddenly for some reason the game would have the only one where golden Freddy is possessed by Cassidy if the books are supposed to help us fill includes for the games without being an exact parallel I think it's very interesting that the movies in the books all have boys as golden Freddy
@@legend-qr5qm Game Cassidy could be a boy too for all we know, idk
Have u seen dual process’ theory cause ngl im kinda onboard with the idea that “Cassidy” is BV’s name, since altered text reveals that name, and finding the last letter comes from help via Mike’s red pen writing. Mike would know his little brother’s name and would wanna help him remember it
As for who the faded text writing is? Could be Charlie, could be a second Golden Freddy spirit… im not sure but i really do think “Cassidy” is BV.
The BV's memories could have been divided by agony, which would attach to Fredbear and the masks of the bullies(via the boy's blood, his head was crushed open after all.) which those masks could be assumed to be stolen spare mascot heads given the 4 year gap between fnaf 4 and fnaf 2 timeline wise. Remember Fredbear and friends was active as a tv show before the toy animatronics invention and would have featured the pre salvaged forms of the withereds. Also in fnaf 2 phone guy states that withered Foxy once had a popular show at the restaurant before mangle replaced him, meaning kid's cove was pirates cove originally, besides that, the only thing resembling the toys were merchandise (action figures and plushies)the boy encounters throughout the x-days until the party mini games. The full scale toy animatronics being built caused the withereds to be retired and the restaurant be re-opened with a toy character dominated theme. This agony memory based period would cover 1983-4-5&6 as 1987 was when the toys were made and the restaurant re-opened/re-branded for the Toys to be the new faces of Freddy's. This stolen mascot head idea could be what the breadcrumbs were referring to, he has to get his mind back together from his scary memories and pain to go to the party. Every happiest day prelude mini game animatronic either appeared in his memories of his tragic birthday or was in the restaurant his agony would have attached to,(renevation and expansion doesn't stymie this in fact it helps the idea as the agony afflicted items would see more use via this due to fazbear entertainment's love of re-use of old parts and characters and cutting corners.) hence how they acted as his guides through the agony memories to bring him peace. If the heads used to complete the new bodies of the MCI victims WERE the mascot heads the bullies wore in fnaf 4 then it could explain the breadcrumbs + the reverse the bad party logic. As all his agony would be cleansed, his mind repaired so he's no longer broken and afraid and can go free via happiest day. Soundly resolving this sticking point. The only thing left would be the vengeful spirit who might be old man consequences, a figure that wants others to move on while he attends to business with what remains of Afton. After all fnaf world and happiest day have resolved entirely by the time of old man consequences appearance in UCN, in which he tells a lingering soul that the purpose the stuck around for is done and to leave Afton to his demons (who may be him.).
What if it is both and that is the solution? This requires some form of golden duo, Where Cassidy is stuffed into and possesses the same Springlock Fredbear that caused CC's death [and that CC is also haunting that suit]
By this I mean: CC/BV's link to the 4 other masked kids in the trauma of the bully party and their being there is symbolic of the characters being his friends and him forgiving Michael and the Bully Buddies, and his agony being in Fredbear [Possibly being Shadow Freddy]. Cassidy, being one of the MCI, is linked to them through shared agony, and her Remnant powers the Golden Freddy shenanigans. She is in the happiest day due to the Springlock Fredbear/Golden Freddy link and to her, the other party goers are the other MCI kids.
Basically the Crying Ghost is CC, the Fredbear mask is Cassidy, the ghosts wearing the other masks are the other MCI kids, and the band masks represent both CC's agony/memories of the masked bullies AND the actual haunted Animatronics the MCI kids are bound to.
They are all linked to the Puppet/Charlie through both shared agony with Afton and Puppet/Charlie being a protective meddler [she "put them back together" if you will]
Cassidy is the Puppet! 😊
In an unused non canon document
Hey @SireSquawks
I have a few questions - do you believe that because Stingers have Charlie after FFPS, does this mean that in games it is also after FFPS? After all, HD will happen either after FFPS or during or after UCN, and the Puppet mask falls slower.I would like to ask you for an answer or a video devoted to this topic.
Also my 2 other suggestions are what does OMC minigame mean - Cassidy leaving UCN? Cassidy returns from OMC minigame to UCN?
My next proposition is your opinion about Toy Chica The Highschool Years - who is who and who does Foxy's hook represent, if you don't believe in Andrew in games.
Also I have the last two questions, one about also TCTHY. Could you comment on about what these cutscenes convey and who the 7th victim is. And why Vengeful Spirit has to be Golden Freddy, which is why UCNDissent doesn't work (this theory assumes that Cassidy as Redbear leaves UCN and only Andrew remains)? Because I think you will speak very well on these topics.
Thanks in advance for your reply
Casual bongos
Funnily enough, Elizabeth's hair isn't even blonde... It's orange.
Duel Process Theory: Well yes but actually no
Squawks and duel process theory are wrong
actually I think GlitchFredbear from Fnaf world is CC trying to free Cassidy
If Squawks has a million fans, I’m one of them
If Squawks has 5 fans, I’m one of them
If Squawks has one fan, that fan is me
I will “BYEEEEEEEAAAA” until I “DIEEEEAAAAA”
I didn’t know people used ShatterVictim to justify CassidyReceiver until I watched this video lol
Who’s here after Return to the Pot leaks?
(0:00) Already I agree, I don’t think this imagine was meant to have meaning behind it. Although I get where people are coming from.
Personally I do think in SOME way this is cassidy, not in the way that ‘it is the TRUE cassidy design’ but instead the representation of her which has some similarities to the real cassidy but not the real deal, of course black hair is the main thing, pigtails..one or two..COULD be likely..but also couldn’t..one of the reasons I believe this is that the security logbook is where cassidy was name dropped in and where this girl appeared, and it ain’t any stock kid like let’s say the fnaf 2 - 3 kids who just where green and blue shirts, mind you that this was before security breach also, heck the girl scared in bed drawing (with a large slash in the painting) could also be a representation of cassidy, back to the topic at hand..also it would make sense for the puppet for giving cassidy cake (which the cake could be a representation of the golden Freddy mask or something like that) and that cassidy was the last kid to either be given life or just came to life by their sheer anger, agony, persistence, whatever
Yeah, I think Cassidy and BV are in the same body, becaus it would make no sense for BV to torture his father forever. I dont get why people think its Cassidy whos in happiest day. It makes no sense with how UCN happens. Espeically since its more implied that the lake guy would be the one to help Cassidy give up on Afton, but even then Cassidy came back in Princess Quest to stop Afton, so she clearly never gave up.
Cassidy listens to OMC advice and rests her own soul. Under ShatterVictim if Cassidy is the remaining piece of the crying child then having her rest would bring the crying child to rest as well so she is the happiest day receiver. Also it’s said that Charlie’s spirit is still lingering on after happiest day because Afton is still out there with his shenanigans, why can’t Cassidy also do the same? This time she learnt her lesson.
I don't Think that Happiest Day,
From Fnaf 3 Actually Happened.
Because how does Molten Freddy,
Who's The Sister Location Animatronics,
Who are Also fragments of the Children William killed
Decided to Be alive in the first Place?
If they found Peace?
It's possible that the SL characters don't have the MCI kids in them. But rather either the Toys or simply random kids that they successfully harvested just like they did Elizabeth. I've always been inclined towards the latter, personally.
Simple, Happiest day takes place after UCN
I feel like it is cassidy ngl Cassidy also had a birthday at freddys and like the rest of aftons victims would be lured to her death stuffed into the fredbear suit to later become golden freddy Cassidys Birthday was ruined sitting in that backroom in that suit from fnaf 2 to fnaf 1 only making minor apperances like being a floating head in the hallway or ending up in the office for jeremy or michael to see soon after the others as ghosts were being freed and helped they would be around a table with the freddy bonnie chica and foxy mask Cassidy would finally get the birthday she never got and put her golden Freddy mask idk why i wrote this like a story but yeah this is how I think that that kid putting on that mask is cassidy
Prepared a lunch for this video. I hope it is worth it.
Rewatching this after having watched the Dual Process Theory video is v interesting. Cassidy is Crying Child/Bite Victim.
No Cassidy isn’t.
@@siresquawks Respectfully and earnestly, Why not? It's narratively satisfying if Bite Victim is Cassidy. It means there is one soul attached to Golden Freddy/Fredbear, which I think is cleaner than multiple souls/entities. We know Bite Victim doesn't die from the bite itself so it's possible he could later be one of the MCI kids
@@DecoderWalrus It isn't. In 4 we hear him flatline- which A: Means he's in a hospital and B: means he isn't in a Freddy's getting stuffed.
The dialogue in the logbook also doesn't add up. Faded text says "My name" every single time there's a clue for the name puzzle and thus is Cassidy- the altered text contributes to the puzzle- but in the same way that Michael does. Michael isn't Cassidy because he writes some numbers and clues to solve the puzzle- but they still are clues as denoted by "My Name". There is nothing implying the altered text is the same entity as the faded text without making the "Cassidy is Michael" kind of connections- and the Altered Text is the one who says all of the stuff related to the bite victim- "it was for me" "I'm Scared" "I can't see" "What is your name" "I can hear sounds".
I mentioned in this video that just because an answer is convenient or solves one chunk of a question better than others doesn't mean it's the full or solid answer to the entire problem. Just as you can make a mountain out of a molehill you can make a motorhome out of a mansion- in this case dismissing an entire character to cut corners on lore. It's easier to say that but that doesn't *always* mean it's right.
Miketrap, BVPuppet, Purple guy is phone guy, hell even Mikebot and arguably dream theory were all are examples where an easy answer to slam two characters or some concepts or games into one was chosen over the more complicated answer that would ultimately be closer to the truth.
@@siresquawks I appreciate a response from my favorite FNaF theorist. I can't pretend that I'm so balls deep in the FNaF lore ball pit that I bleed Faz Goo but I thought the Dual Process Theory spun a pretty sound (or at the very least interesting) narrative
What do you think that one line from Glitchbear means about being made for one thing?
Could the difference between Molten MCI -> Molten freddy Amalgam
And
Happiest day - They also comr together
Is that in the first one they are forced into it, and thus its just their agony/combined emotional state, becomes unstable.
Meanwhile in Happiest day, we are providing the steps for them to take, to attend the party together
Could the difference simply be consent?
[Its kinda like trying to duct tape 5 magnets together;
Afton is doing it by extreme force, while we are giving them a point of attraction? (What they want)
Honestly logbook girl being Cassidy isn't the most absurd assumption in the world. She is in fact a child with black hair with the only notable color on her being the yellow hair beads, Golden Freddy is yellow and black. Now I know using colors in a fnaf theory will collapse the entire multiverse by most theories' logic on this channel, and that type of reasoning brings us to CC being the Puppet, or Elizabeth being Vanessa, or any instance of any shade of green being Charlie for some reason even though that's Elizabeth's thing, although I disagree with that counter argument because those examples are purely in a vacuum. Vanessa being Elizabeth isn't absurd because color associations are illegal in this franchise, they match the same description, it's absurd because Elizabeth is dead, and burned, and British, and you'd need to bring in robot people to bring her back entirely off screen and very rarely imply they have any connection that can't be explained by Glitchtrap gaslighting her.
Context is very important in these discussions. This loser in the logbook is a kid interacting with the puppet, the MCI kids interact with a puppet, and she's being given a cake, which is a thing we know is the main thing Freddy's did, it's a birthday joint. This isn't like, an absurd situation to theoretically see this character at. Plus, yeah it's weird Cassidy doesn't call it out, but this is the logbook which is Cassidy centric, so it being an image of her kinda makes sense, although it definitely could've been handled better.
Yeah the Novels disagree on the exact description, but that's assuming the books are more precise in nitty gritty details across mediums than the average heart surgeon when they mess stuff up all the time. For all we know Logbook girl is just Cassidy back in 1983, since the puppet has tear streaks, before her hair grew out and she was murdered two years later. The pigtails matching novel Charlie could be a thematic parallels thing since they're the two most important child victim ghosts, but definitely don't quote me on that.
I am absolutely not saying I 100% definitely believe this is Cassidy, I just disagree with demonizing the mere idea of it. Honestly I think people just WANT this to be Cassidy because they're such an important fixture that never seems to definitively show up and objectively do anything. The fact that we can't even decide if Cassidy is a boy or a girl, and that they can be entirely replaced by an entire different kid from Frights in a lot of theories really speaks volumes. To my knowledge, every other major lore character in this franchise has a gender and a physical description, and an idea of why they're important. The only other weird case is CC who is just allergic to having a name. I think people just really want Cassidy to be a more defined character, and having an image of her, and one that proves she's a her, really really helps that. Whether or not that's bad theory etiquette is up to you.
I do agree with basically everything else in this video, Happiest Day is most definitely about CC, I just got snagged on that one little thing in the beginning, which is ironic I guess. I'm not trying to make this a 50,000 word hate comment, I was just put off by your arguments with that one image. I love your videos and hope you continue to make them amazing.
Also why did you never bring up UCN or Andrew or anything Cassidy possibly appearing after they were supposedly sent to highfive Jesus? That seems kinda important to look into when you're trying to figure out if they've been put to rest yet at a certain point in the timeline.
Lots of possibilities for it
Deadass I don’t think Cassidy exists within the games
Logbook? The book that has Michael, the crying child and Cassidy and very specifically references events form the games?
@@siresquawks just the entity that’s been labeled the vengeful spirit. I do think the vengeful spirit exists, but it’s another character, maybe it’s Michael or the crying child but the name and character of Cassidy I don’t think is. I don’t think there are two spirits within golden Freddy. I think this is just people finding solutions for smaller questions that don’t matter and everyone rolls with the ball. Like the Jeremy being Cassie’s dad yet that theory makes some since and does tie in random things within the games giving us answers to a character that’s been forgotten. The whole time we thought Scott was just using the same name over and over but now it makes since. This is something I like. A theory that makes a confusing narrative a whole.
But Cassidy seems to just confused things up. How could two spirits posses one animatronic, and why is this specific kid so special. The crying child being the vengeful spirit makes the most since assuming that he alone possess golden Freddy. But I’m willing to be proved wrong. I just need some kind of evidence that this character exists and has a reason to be pissed and angry
@@isbryanflyingordying2202Other than we have 5 kids went missing in MCI? BV doesn’t work as the Vengeful Spirit because MIR1280 confirmed William is who we play as in UCN and BV can’t be the Vengeful Spirit on William because William never killed BV, Mike did. Now this does have weird wiggle room because in that story Andrew is The Vengeful Spirit so there’s that. Logbook had a prompt that have named the gravestone “Cassidy” so there’s also that, and it isn’t really confirmed if BV is in Golden Freddy other than him connecting to Fredbear symbolically
@@smt64productions40 BV?
@@isbryanflyingordying2202Bite Victim/Crying Child
You kinda left out something, if CC Is the receiver that means there was a fucking retcon there
BV and his whole story wasn't even planned out yet when Fnaf 3 came out, so by default the original intent Scott has for happiest day was that the 5th victim was the receiver, if BV Is the receiver instead that means Scott directly retconned Happiest day
This Is why this theory doesn't work, because the original intent of Scott was that the 5th victim was the receiver
Eh more of a "Scottcon"- something that wasn't planned at first but was developed over time. It's similar to a retcon in most series but Scott's definition from "The retcon issue" post seems screwier that I'm unsure if this would count.
now im thinking, cassidy/golden freddy is not the vengeful spirit, golden freddy is just intervining, but rather the vengeful spirit is OMC, omc being a angry spirit (andrew) convincing a benelovent spirit (cassidy) to let go and let him do as he pleases "leave the demon to his demons" most likely means "leave afton to me", so omc is just asking cassidy to not intervin in afton torture, and cassidy be kind to every mci kid and cc makes her less vengeful than a "vengeful spirit", and the animatronics refering "the vengeful spirit" as male is not because of the animatronic, its refering to the spirit itself: "*he's* here, and always watching, the one you shoudn't have killed"
my problem with that would be that it doesnt really make much sense of OMC to appear in fnaf world if hes andrew, and how OMC is portrayed in princess quest doesnt match with andrews personality
@@thisnameanothername2156 so what is the point of omc being a alligator just as andrew, and cassidy being the vengeful spirit doesnt make sense either because she's kind to everyone and the mci, andrew is a dick with everyone, something that a vengeful person would be
@@Wizardjones69the point of Andrew being an alligator is that Old Man Consequences is Andrew after the epilogues
@@Wizardjones69 but omc isnt a dick to cassidy, like hes pretty emotionless and cold but thats not andrew, and cassidy is still really hostile to the adults, like she is the one to kill phone guy
@@docrilas that breaks the timeline of the epilogues though, like unless the OMC cutscene happens after the epilogues (which breaks the argument for leave the demon to his demons being about andrew) they both exist at the same time
My hot take is that Cassidy in the games is male. TOYSNHK is referred to with he/him pronouns, Cassidy is a unisex name, and the picture of TOYSNHK in UCN is of one of Scott's sons (iirc). I'd even go so far as to say that Cassidy's true parallel in the books is Andrew, and that people overlook it because they think Cassidy is a girl. Female Cassidy in the books might also be a Cassidy parallel, or just another case of FNAF's same-name syndrome. I don't know much about book Cassidy, so I can't comment.
AND, since we're talking about how Happiest Day was executed as well, here's my idea of what happens in FNAF World. The protagonist is Phone Guy. We hear him be killed by Golden Freddy in FNAF 1's phone calls. But when Cassidy kills him and finds that he isn't Afton, she sets him to new purpose: becoming the protag of FNAF World, where he can help to free CC. Your guide through the game is of course Cassidy, hence how this works.
I think the other characters in FNAF World could be fragments of the souls of the FNAF 2 MCI kids who weren't stuffed. FNAF World is the weird afterlife you end up in if you have an animatronic-related death, but don't possess a suit. Could also explain why the main character is a Freddy, since Phone Guy was probably stuffed into that spare Freddy suit we see on death screens in FNAF 1. He didn't have enough power to possess the suit, and Puppet didn't gift him life, so to FNAF World he goes.
Maybe this is too crazy, but I think it's at least an interesting idea.
Valid idea I guess but this is the same franchise with a character who’s gender is canonically “yes”.
@@Leavemealone2-po7yn True. But there's literally no indication in the games that Cassidy is female, only that he's male.
Phone guy is the protagonist of FNAF world????!!!!??!!!
I never thought about that idea, cool theory.
@@abigailbishop8267 Thank you, I'm glad you liked it!
@@sworishinathey could be referring to TOYSNHK with Golden Freddy's pronouns instead of the spirits actual pronouns, much like how the Puppet is always using male pronouns depsite being posessed by a girl
I like the black hair Cassidy Because I think William mistook her for Charlie.
6:41 ITS ME🤯🤯🤯
What about Greenie McSnoot tho?
Does she even matter? Like she has never been confirmed to have any importance, hell I would argue it's not even confirmed if she is the 5th victim. We know Afton killed way more then 5 kids she may just be a additional one. The whole community understanding of this character is made of half baked assumptions
SIX MONTHS???!??
This is a lot of runtime to say "I don't understand ShatterVictim but I'll argue against it anyway".
So bit victim and cc are Cassidy?
No? How would you get that out of this video.
W vid
I think it’s Cassidy cause I really don’t think Garrett (don’t hyperfocus on this) is GF at all
Like narrative wise he’s a useless NPC
Evidence wise is euuuugh
The masks being because at his party people were wearing masks doesn’t make sense IMO. The people wearing masks were the people who killed him. Why would he want a mask to be like them? It would be like if the others wanted to dress up as animals because there was a yellow rabbit when they went to Freddy’s, or if Charlie wanted to drive because she saw a cool purple car. (Unless this is symbolic of him forgiving Mike or something.)
I think of it as setting right what didn’t happen. The party was for him- it was supposed to be his happiest day. The main 4 are basically overwriting what happened with a good version of the event. It’s not like them wearing masks was the problem in the original party it was that they were bullying him and forced him to go near an animatronic he was afraid of.
He likes the characters- he calls the plushies his friends- it isn’t that weird for him to like them in a better context. It’s basically him finding real friends and making a bad thing right.
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The logbook girl is Cassidy and it shows she's the happiest day kid. That is obvious
I feel like focusing on nitpicks like 'its not long black hair' or the like is focusing too much on minor details and not the clear and obvious details.
It's a girl in the golden Freddy position of the happiest day on a page talking about the happiest day.
BV being connected to HD does not require him to be the receiver at all.
It’s crying child
It can't be him bc the kid has gf mask
Lol no, why are people still hanging onto this theory.
it's always been BV, Give Gift Give Life kids, and Charlie
Cassidy didn't receive anything and only connected with BV by Golden Freddy
Cassidy work hard in FNAF World to put that clues in Follow me
Literally fnaf 3 end
Victims of purple guy get free
Cassidy get free with missing kids
Bv is not part of missing kids
Fnaf world get created by fredbear plush
Cassidy dies year 1985
Scott can have ideas and let it open for future games, or just let it be mystery if FNAF3 just end there
in my opinion BV/CC already planned since FNAF1 "it's me"
and Golden Freddy being the weird one from other animatronic need explanation and you can't find it if just from FNAF1-3
in FNAF4 it explained that BV a birthday boy and always crying so it's normal conclusion to connect it with child who is crying in FNAF3
@Sonicmidfnaf 4 was the planned finale game original tagline was originally finale chapter and literally explaining who the happiest day was meant for bite kid never had his birthday and mci kids gave him it sitting him free and giving them no purpose to stay there
@@Deadhead-kq4hrit wasnt planned, fnaf 3 was the final game but people hated it so Scott made fnaf 4, people thought fnaf 4 didnt have enough lore so he made SL, one of the most lore packed games in the series,after that he actually started to plan things out.
@@Deadhead-kq4hr Okay, but that just means that the "original ending" would have failed to explain what happened to the fifth MCI kid, if Happiest Day was supposed to be for CC. Because under this logic, we can't even say "oh, they're not at the party because they go on to become the Vengeful Spirit", because the VS obviously didn't exist yet.