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Cold start rattle on your 2011-2015 Honda CRV. Here's how to fix it.

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  • @dylangraham3535
    @dylangraham3535 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This should be a recall on all these Honda models. I got Honda to replace mine and it only lasted a year. I'm doing it myself this time, but all these manufacturers should be held accountable on this problem.

    • @anthonyevich3836
      @anthonyevich3836 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm the 2nd owner of a 2014 CR-V, bought it at 59K (warrenty expired at 60K) and within weeks after buying it it started the rattle, only on cold mornings. It's at 92K now and does it even on hot days, even if it's 85 degrees and you let it sit more than like an hour. I am ticked. I don't know what it would take to get Honda to recall it, since it's not considered a safety item. Thanks, Honda. My young CR-V sounds like a worn-out beater. The 2001 Taurus I moved up from (was this CR-V actually an upgrade though?) started perfectly every morning without any noises. It's really disgusting that Honda cares so little about thier customers and this WIDESPREAD problem with their cars. I am a young man (the new generation as they say) that specifcally bought Honda because of its supposed 'reliability'. By NOT addressing this issue, Honda is ensuring that I look elsewhere for my next car. Maybe Subaru. Or Chevy.

    • @RoaringOrange
      @RoaringOrange ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have Honda CRV 2014 since December 2013. Have always had rattling noise... Went to dealership. They changed belt or whatever and the noise still there. I've had it for almost 10 years already..

    • @xjssts7127
      @xjssts7127 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree with you, I am an auto mechanic and these Honda's they all/many have this problem. Me personally I think all the chain, the guide, tensioner, the sprockets needs to be replaced, I think...I guess they were able to get away buy just replacing that one sprocket it is a cheap alternative, because replacing all the parts that i said it's a big job you most likely have to remove the engine out of the car. I am 30+ mechanic. I guess some of it they are doing under warranty and the corporation gonna be furious if they start replacing that many parts, because at the end the Honda Corp. is paying the repair bill. The dealer cannot replace parts as they wish too.

    • @RoaringOrange
      @RoaringOrange 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xjssts7127 I wish I knew it before.... After I came back from service center and it was still rattling, I kind of gave up :/ What an irresponsible car owner I am..

    • @2fast4all
      @2fast4all 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@anthonyevich3836 same here. bought a 2012 EX with 73K 12/2022. Fast forward to now 90K its rattles like every other day or every other startup. I get it, honda never fixed it. There is a company (or startup shop) that made an aftermarket spring to be installed with the existing VTC gear. Most people had good results. But if you think about it its not just the CRV. Civic Si, Accord up til 2012, ilx and believe it or not the earth dreams 2.4L's as well but not as much. The engine runs mint though. It could use a valve adjustment. As a honda enthusiast I'm not mad but I do agree. Honda should have at least ran a campaign fix.

  • @datalo0618
    @datalo0618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the video. We’ve had this issue since getting the car. The seller was smart enough to warm up the motor before we got there.

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Replace the VTC actuator locking pin spring. Takes under an hour with the proper kit with no risk to your engine timing.

    • @fortnite360HZ
      @fortnite360HZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never had this issue i change my oil every 4000km i think people have issues cause they are changing the oil too late according to oil life which is a garbage system to go by

  • @Bungholio-0-
    @Bungholio-0- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a 2015 Honda CRV with 90k & a loud cold start timing chain. So this video really helps me, before I get into it. To see Everything I need to do, been searching for a video like this for a Bit. So thankful you made this one. Peace ✌️

  • @truthbetold89
    @truthbetold89 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been driving my 08 2.4 honda Accord with that cold start rattle for the past 5 years, and the car is still fine.

    • @1Mannco
      @1Mannco หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah been hearing that noise now for a second on cold starts on my '10 Accord 125k miles. I also heard that rattling can loosen up your timing chain. Just had a valve adjustment, new timing chain, new guides, tensioners too and new sparks plugs 2 weeks ago and I still hear the noise. I didn't know about the "VCT Accuator" until recently looking it up after the noise still happened. I thought it was from the loose tensioners/guides and timing chain. I still probably needed doing all this after having a 14 yr old car. So I'm going to buy the new spring from "spring-start" for the VTC Accuator for super cheap.
      I hear that makes a big difference. Some say in time that rattling sound comes back w/o replacing the whole thing. Some say it comes back after replacing the whole thing. Same for the new spring, some say it works perfect others say noise will be back in a year or sooner. Some guys stretch out the spring only and say it works, but I'll just get a new spring. If it comes back after the spring was replaced and everything else I did, well screw it, let it be. The sound is minimal or very slight starting it in warm or hot weather even after many hours, mostly when it's colder or 5am in the morning.

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That's why I have guys like you to do this type of work! Great job.

  • @RaysUserName
    @RaysUserName 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the run through. Love how the part is referred to twice as “this guy” with no name description.

  • @xjssts7127
    @xjssts7127 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    (Here's what this video maker said) Book time is 4.7 hrs in terms of shop rate every shop is different. While these vehicles were still covered under warranty Honda only pays 2 hrs to replace it this way. If I were to do it on my own vehicle i would completely remove the timing cover if it has higher mileage and replace the chain, guides and tensioner at the same time.

  • @NoxEternus
    @NoxEternus ปีที่แล้ว +4

    haven't finished the video yet, but it's definitely interesting so far, keep up the good content

  • @lgp415
    @lgp415 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I believe I have the same problem what happens if I don't fix it will it cause damage to the engine

  • @bbmm4054
    @bbmm4054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just a quick note, my CRV is also a 2014 but it’s only got 48k km on it, I bought it new and drive it only to work about 30km each way and grossers etc… and have this issue… always maintained by the book and never abused in any way… amazing and I don’t understand why at such a low mileage this is happening but that’s life I guess…

    • @abbeywilt1883
      @abbeywilt1883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mine is 2014, replaced under warranty In 2017 and it’s needing replaced again. Sometimes it doesn’t matter sounds like a functional defect

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not uncommon to have it replaced more than once.

  • @jeremymahabir491
    @jeremymahabir491 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video helped me explain what wrong with my moms crv... Been looking for this

  • @MrBobby3340
    @MrBobby3340 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just completed pulling timing cover, replacing intake cam, guides, actuator, chain and tensioner. 2014 accord

  • @bbmm4054
    @bbmm4054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What an amazing video… really detailed, easy to understand and very well executed…
    Can you pls tell me how many hrs of a job is this job if done by experienced mechanic like yourself? Many Tnx and pls keep it up with amazing vids…

  • @user-tl4kq2qe2d
    @user-tl4kq2qe2d ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning, I have a crv 2014 car. When I start it in the morning, it makes a rough sound, but for how many moments, can I know what is the problem?

  • @ismaelperez278
    @ismaelperez278 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At what mileage do you recommend to do the distribution chain replacement?

  • @Johnny5yo
    @Johnny5yo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2022 Honda insight chugs upon start up. Is it pcv valve or valve adjustment needed or is it the vct actuator?

  • @tomwalma4762
    @tomwalma4762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quick and easy!

  • @ajm849
    @ajm849 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is common on early 2GR-FE Toyota 3.5 V6 engines too

    • @SuperMan-uj7dh
      @SuperMan-uj7dh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      but they fixed it with updated parts, and the newer ones after 12-13 do not do it anymore

  • @lalimba6853
    @lalimba6853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, that sucks. Bought this CRV with the exact same issue, unless I diy, more costs...sad.

  • @MrBobby3340
    @MrBobby3340 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take cam out, put into vice with wood blocks and remove and install actuator. Test with air pressure for release and lock

  • @edwinheredia3735
    @edwinheredia3735 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Where are you guys located, and what's the cost of this job?

  • @heshamhenein5585
    @heshamhenein5585 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My2012 Honda CRV has the same problem. Where are located?

  • @studzineena
    @studzineena ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2012 Crv with the actuator rattle. Mechanic said I should do the timing chain as well. This car has 105,000 miles and I have always changed the oil when the oil life indicator light comes on and have used full synthetic oil since oil change #2. My question is-can I just change the VTC actuator and take my chances on the timing chains ?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it was my own car I would do it the right way and replace the chains and guides on a higher mileage car. But if you want to check and see if you might have worn guides or chains a quick look behind the timing chain tensioner cover/inspection hole to see how far the tensioner has extended and having the valve cover remove to see if you can see the color links for the timing marks are good indications if you need to replace chains and guides. It's a good way to decide if you need it or not.

  • @TheDanbulance
    @TheDanbulance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you found the guides wearing at all? Would also be curious to have heard the noise before repair.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The bulletin describes it as a bucket of marbles also warranty extension. But it's noticeable on start up when it happens or if you do an oil change on start up. Guides are usually min wear unless higher kms.

  • @steverose2405
    @steverose2405 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How long will the replacement last? What if you don't do the repair?

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix ปีที่แล้ว +13

    To save money I just remove the top bolts off the plate of the sprocket ⚙️. & stretch the spring that’s inside, reinstall, and complete. This fixes the rattle on this era K-series cold start rattle every time.

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you tried replacing the spring?

    • @xjssts7127
      @xjssts7127 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My heads off to you if it worked, I mean if you are not making things up. I am 30+ year mechanic. Can you explain in details witch bolt you are talking about and make a detailer video of the repairs.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@xjssts7127 things don’t always have to be complicated. And if you’re a 30+ year mechanic you’d know that. You could easily look up videos on this detailing what I said. The fix I detailed works every time on non-Earth Dreams K-series engines.

    • @MrSamPhoenix
      @MrSamPhoenix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@spring-start no need to, as the spring is simply compressed and stretching it back out works just fine. You can if you want to though.

    • @chiefbeefofficer
      @chiefbeefofficer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Link to videos?

  • @H-habilis
    @H-habilis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for another great viddy! Hey what's your take on folks with early Gen 4 CR-V's simply replacing the spring inside the locking pin with a slightly stiffer spring of the correct length, many swear that its a permanent fix although pin releases at a slightly higher RPM. I'd love to buy an early Gen 4 instead of another Gen 3, but this VTC snafu with its corresponding chain stretch and possible cam sprocket wear has me spooked.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't want to spook you any more but the 4th gen are prone to oil burning especially the later 4th gen where they put the earth dream engine in it. Low tension piston rings etc. I suggest the 3rd gen but from 2007 to even maybe 2010 or an early production 2010. When it still used 5w20 I really think that they should be using 5w30 oil in that motor IMO. I think that year of third gen are really good. Rear differential is still all mechanical just change the fluid regularly. The 4th gen they started putting pumps and pressure switch. Can't remember but it came out with a tab a while back where we had to take them apart to replace an electrical component when it sets a code.

    • @H-habilis
      @H-habilis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theoffroadingmechanic Thanks, I appreciate the sage advice. Its interesting that a 2010 has a different VTC sprocket part number than both a 2009 and a 2012, my research indicates 2010's rack abundant km. In hindsight I should have kept my '09 CR-V EX-L that I sold before moving abroad 5 years ago.

  • @superbenbenhahaha
    @superbenbenhahaha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    great video! any idea what would be a reasonable cost for such job in Canada/Ontario?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Depends the kms you have on your CRV if it's still fairly low kms then just replacing it this way is fine but if it's higher kms you might be looking to do the correct way which is removing the timing cover and replace the chains and guides at the same time.

  • @fireballz7
    @fireballz7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much would you charge for this job?

  • @wood123ish
    @wood123ish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Like how detailed your man. My lady lady has a 2012 crv 4x4 2.4 head gasket has gone to shit 179000 mileon it. Tips on replacing head gasket!!?? Plz help and thank. Have not toren into it yet looking to start in the am.!

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's not too difficult once the timing cover intake an exhaust comes off. Just need something to hold the rockers together so the pins for the VTech don't pop out. I've done a few but didn't make a good full video on one.
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    • @wood123ish
      @wood123ish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok. I'm gonna probly holler at for few more questions? If that's OK. I've got the kno how but something with the little things like rockers n such I'm clueless.

  • @Jay2ActivE
    @Jay2ActivE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My 08 Toyota Highlander that I just bought from someone is making that noise I guess cus they didn't take care of the oil change but does it affect the engine at all if you don't replace it?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think The Car Care Nut channel made a video of the Highlander and there common problems and what it can potentially do to the engine

    • @caseyalexander2244
      @caseyalexander2244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, it will not make a problem for the engine. It’s just an annoyance. Try running thicker oil as a starting point.

  • @overtimemechanic1778
    @overtimemechanic1778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what's the best way to diagnose what side is bad? is it always the intake side?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only on the intake has the vvt. The exhaust has just a regular gear. New Honda's like the 1.5 turbo have dual vvts now. But haven't had the issue due to rattling on start up.

  • @yeisoncabreraperez
    @yeisoncabreraperez หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can somebody please tell me the name of the car piece.

  • @jr00g25
    @jr00g25 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the part number?

  • @kc03300
    @kc03300 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    is that for all k24. my 2003 does the same and also at 5000+ rpm rattles away when accelerating 391,000 kms on car

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      CRV I that year likes to stretch chains. Also the tensioner for the balance shaft/oil pump assembly will constantly rattle people think it is the a/c compressor and they replace it and the noise is still there but with a stethoscope you can hear it rattling in the oil pan.

  • @lnnoT6665
    @lnnoT6665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do honda civic tenth gen 2018 also have this problem? I can hear my car makes short screeching noise if i start the car in the morning. Very short high pitched noise at the end when it cranks to start. Does it sound like a vtc actuator noise or starter motor noise?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The actuator doesn't make a screeching noise and it's not common on the 10th gen. You might just have a slipping belt. Check your tensioner there is an indicator to know when the belt is worn. Harder to see on the 1.5t. that or your compressor shaft seal has leak oil on the belt.

    • @lnnoT6665
      @lnnoT6665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoffroadingmechanic will have my belt checked too. Serpentine is fairly new btw. Only 3 months old. Dealership replaced it as part of preventive maintenance this feb. I'm not sure if screeching is the best adjective to describe the noise. Maybe more like someone with stuffy nose, then tries to blow the mucus off to be able to breath again. 😂 But I'm glad to hear vtc actuator issue isn't common in newer civics. Hopefully this is just a belt, starter or anything minor. Thanks and God bless you!

  • @maxpower6658
    @maxpower6658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wife is needing a newer car soon and we are considering a 2013 crv with 103000m on it. May reconsider after hearing about this issue. This is completely unacceptable. Hondas reputation should stand in the balance over this type of thing. The warping rotors are one thing but this. No.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you considered looking into the Mazda cx5 2017 or 2018. You may be paying more for a premium and nicer interior. With a little research may be a nicer fit for your wife. I would not rec. The 2016 or earlier models as those were when they first introduced there skyactive technology but later improved on it which I think became great engines. When I was a Mazda tech

    • @maxpower6658
      @maxpower6658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoffroadingmechanic Yeah I have considered Mazda and heard the early skyactive were a bit wonky. Thanks for the heads up about What years to look for. Have also considered rav 4, escape ,Forrester, acura. About all the smaller suvs. Are taking our time.

    • @joerahn1121
      @joerahn1121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes reconsider

  • @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc
    @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We have replaced the Vtc actuator twice and it goes away for about a month then it’s back it’s so annoying and loud

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Prolly your tensioner

  • @steverose2405
    @steverose2405 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would a higher viscosity engine oil help to keep some oil at the engine? My 2012 uses 0W-20. Friends have Subaru Outbacks with 2.5i boxer engines; the 2014 model calls for 0W-20 and the 2011 calls for 5W-30. I am considering a higher viscosity oil for the next change. Might that help?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The viscosity won't help in preventing the VTC rattle. We have a 2016 accord with the earth dream motor and it has been using 5w30 instead of the 0w20. And it still rattles. However, regular oil changes and doing 6k kms intervals it doesn't burn any oil which these engines are known for.

    • @steverose2405
      @steverose2405 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@theoffroadingmechanic what was your motivation for changing to 5W-30?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      All the piston rings we do at Honda and burning oil and also the long oil change interval on the maintenance reminder is what made me go with 5w30. Our accord gets 5w30 oil and it gets changed every 6k kms doesn't burn oil but it still gets the rattle on start up. It's also has about 160k kms. I've had those engines burn oil at 80k kms where people do 12k kms oil change intervals because of the maintenance reminder. In my 2023 4runner and my 2021 tacoma both calls for 0w20 but I've been using 5w30 in both since after the break in period. And in the owners manual it also says it is recommended to use a high viscosity if your vehicle is operated in high loads.

  • @BlackyBrownDestruction9337
    @BlackyBrownDestruction9337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it necessary

  • @slim13outdoors99
    @slim13outdoors99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why do you have to take the camshaft out to remove the actuator? I’ve seen people do the cam phaser with timing chain and not remove the camshaft. Thank you.

    • @blinky00
      @blinky00 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think he did it that way to inspect it. That’s my guess. Because I’ve done them without taking the cam out. Great video still. Very detailed.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are other ways of removing the actuator I just do it this way but as a 2014 they typically burn oil unlike prior 2010 models. Its just good to check conditions while you're there. I have found lobes worn where a camshaft needed replacing while replacing the actuator. Not additional labour to do so.

    • @slim13outdoors99
      @slim13outdoors99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoffroadingmechanic that makes sense. Thank you. Great video

  • @njsongwriter
    @njsongwriter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would have helped if you mentioned how important it is to fix this orbwoukd it be okay to put it off? Also what is the cost of this procedure?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven't seen a catastrophic failure from this yet. And for cost I don't have an answer since I have only done it under warranty and good will. Which there's a procedure to do it so warranty only pay 2 hrs. But book time I believe somewhere from 4 to 5 with removing the timing cover cleaning and resealing.

    • @bradman1961
      @bradman1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theoffroadingmechanic - If you don't fix it, does it affect the performance or the way it runs?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just the other day I had a customer with the issue of a rattling noise and a check engine light it had a cam and crank out of phase code. I had to check physical timing and it had jump timing.

  • @AB.1994
    @AB.1994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got my vtc actuator changed in my 2010 crv and a week later it comes back just quieter

  • @Ehtia002
    @Ehtia002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had my 2013 Honda CRV's engine replaced which should have technically replaced the VTC actuator and oil pump. I still get the rattle noise on a cold start. What could it be???

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did they put in a used motor? Or did they just do a short block and reused everything else. They don't make long blocks you either order a short block or the head assembly.

    • @Ehtia002
      @Ehtia002 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m not too engine savvy. When I looked at it, they had kept the outer shell of my engine.

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They probably didn't do anything.

  • @paulguzyk2978
    @paulguzyk2978 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. How long should a shop bill for to do this procedure?

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Book time is 4.7 hrs in terms of shop rate every shop is different. While these vehicles were still covered under warranty Honda only pays 2 hrs to replace it this way. If I were to do it on my own vehicle i would completely remove the timing cover if it has higher mileage and replace the chain, guides and tensioner at the same time.

    • @anthonyevich3836
      @anthonyevich3836 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theoffroadingmechanic Would you consider 92 thousand miles time to replace the chain, guides and tensioner? Mine hase been grinding since 59 thousand miles. :/ No OBDII codes, and no codes on the dash. It just sounds like crap when starting every morning. A masive clatter reasonating under my apartment's covered carport.

  • @dumpydumpy7514
    @dumpydumpy7514 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long can you ignore that rattle for? Asking for a friend.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haven't seen any catastrophic damage. People usually come in when they start hearing it.

    • @jrichardson-m9m
      @jrichardson-m9m ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For a while but it will lead to chain failure. Seen a couple of them at the dealer. But it will be very noisy and rattle for a long time after startup before that happens.

    • @happyamerican3235
      @happyamerican3235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our 2016 has 140k miles. Nothings ever been done for this problem and I’m not messing with it. Rattles at startup and after oil changes. The thinner/higher miles on your oil the louder/longer it rattles. I run a magnetic drain plug and do all my own oil changes between 4k and 5k miles with Mobil 1 0w20 and there is minimal residue on the plug every time I check it. It sounds bad but it’s nothing to worry about in my opinion. I tried a can of something Honda said to put in the oil but it didn’t do anything for the issue. I have thought of switching to 5w20 to see if there’s a noticeable difference since we have high miles on it anyway to see how it sounds. Thinner oil just drains back quicker leaving it a little dry up there in the motor making it do this. Yea Honda Goofed on this one. The best Hondas are on 2 wheels in my opinion lol. I’ve only ever changed the belt, spark plugs, and the basics on this motor so it’s been a good run and these are literally everywhere on the roads so still Honda quality. Still on the original battery.

  • @BryanRuiz-rw6zk
    @BryanRuiz-rw6zk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just saw a video on how to fix this without all of this unnecessary work.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea you can do it without all of it but how are you able to tell if the chain guides aren't broken or cracked from the chain rattling. Had one last week, the guides were broken and in the oil pan and in the oil pick up

    • @BryanRuiz-rw6zk
      @BryanRuiz-rw6zk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah well if that’s the case than it will require replacements and everything. But sometimes it could be a minor fix at a fraction of the price

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I agree it can be a fraction of the price with a simpler fix from what you see on the internet but that is the internet for you and everyone is looking for a cheap fix but for someone that works on these cars day in and day out I see what goes on with them. These engines also burn oil and when ran low on oil you need to check the guides and crank sprockets for teeth wear. Things that these cheap fixes won't show you. You might be more interested in this video.
      th-cam.com/video/959vbtsLKPI/w-d-xo.html

  • @stanwardoshiro
    @stanwardoshiro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What causes the sprocket to go bad?

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wear and tear

  • @ExtremeRecluse
    @ExtremeRecluse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why does my 2013 with 75000 miles burn 2 quarts every 1000 miles. I went to do mile oil change. The rattle had already begun 2000 miles before the rattle on startup. I was 2.5 quarts low on oil. I changed my oil. I restarted and the rattle occurred again, but not quite as loud. The CVT actuator is not the problem. Low oil makes the rattle occur. In my case, I had burned 2.5 quarts in 3000 miles, between oil changes. I routinely burn 2 quarts every 1000 miles at 110,000. Still think it is the actuator? Honda has screwed 1000s of customers just like Toyota did with the frame rot.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The rattles and oil burning or more common on the 2010-2016 CRV is what I have noticed also they have gone to low tension piston rings you will see in this video. th-cam.com/video/959vbtsLKPI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=s91QHWwLd8pUVBE_

  • @walkinyourownshoes
    @walkinyourownshoes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You dont have to take the cams out to do this. I just replaced mine on my k24y2 and never touched the cams. Release the timing chain tensioner and youll have enough slack to pull the chain off the sprockets without removing the cam.

    • @scott3801
      @scott3801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking the same, just remove the bolt holding the vvt to the cam. Assuming there’s room to do so, looks like it.

    • @walkinyourownshoes
      @walkinyourownshoes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scott3801 there is

  • @travisgann6750
    @travisgann6750 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool now I know I need to replace "this guy" I think the name of the part your replacing is an important detail lol

  • @aardvarkmotors7246
    @aardvarkmotors7246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello mate I accidentally turned the cog into the lock position does this effect anything ? If so how do I reset it to the unlock position? Cheers.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you already torqued the bolt to the camshaft?

    • @aardvarkmotors7246
      @aardvarkmotors7246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You will need the camshaft. On the camshaft main journal there will be a few holes you will need to blow compress air to unlock the pin to be able to turn it back to the unlock position

    • @aardvarkmotors7246
      @aardvarkmotors7246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoffroadingmechanic will run if I just fit it and let the oil pressure set it,why does it need to be in the unlocked position?

    • @aardvarkmotors7246
      @aardvarkmotors7246 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also just looked the cam and cog I removed and it is in the locked position.

  • @DonChicloso
    @DonChicloso ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We do them in the car here at work, we dont take of the cam,

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you do it with the tensioner out for more slack on the chain?

    • @caseyalexander2244
      @caseyalexander2244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theoffroadingmechanic The tensioner just has to have the mechanism retracted and held in place by a pin or Allen key, it does not have to come out. But yes, that is how they do it.

  • @raebbb
    @raebbb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Recently had my VTC actuator replaced by Honda on my 2014 CRV and the rattle was still there the following day with no improvements.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did it sound like this? th-cam.com/video/ZaQ8g0xsBnk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MnKEhQplPof94SLQ

    • @dlbco.6550
      @dlbco.6550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ive been reading that we need to replace serpentine belt tensioner. Good luck.

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Install a Honda Extreme VTC spring

  • @heyherb
    @heyherb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I switched to 5-20 oil instead of the recommended 0-20 oil and the rattle stopped

    • @bobblanchard9041
      @bobblanchard9041 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Someone recommended Pennzoil 0-20 Syn and our 2011 Accord rattle stopped after 2 weeks.Only drove about 100 miles a week.That was 4 years ago and noise hasn't happened since.I was using Mobil 1.Worth a try.

    • @caseyalexander2244
      @caseyalexander2244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try 5W30 as a next step, or if you will be driving in temperatures over 70 F. 0W20 is the reason why this happens, along with creating other engine issues because it burns off. When this happens, people drive low on oil that is already not thick enough to properly protect the internals and this overheats the timing chain, stretching it. It also overheats and weakens the spring inside the actuator and this is what causes the rattle.

  • @scottherod2673
    @scottherod2673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cold start rattle can also be a chain tensioner

    • @caseyalexander2244
      @caseyalexander2244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is true - however not directly in this case. I say not directly, because the main cause of the rattle is the spring for the locking point in the actuator no longer being strong enough. These will still rattle after the spring is replaced, and many times replacing the tensioner will stop the rattle.

    • @gfriedman99
      @gfriedman99 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not true. Defective tensioner will rattle warm or cold.

    • @scottherod2673
      @scottherod2673 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gfriedman99 not true, tensioner will stop rattling once oil pressure builds.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Can't believe I missed these comments. I should chime in here about your tensioner causing it to rattle it is possible for the tensioner to cause the rattle depending on the situation. For example the earth dream motor in the 2016 CRV, and accord there is a screen/metal gaskets for the tensioner. For some reason the oil life indicator on these won't come on until near 10k miles depending on how you drive what I have found on the screen for the tensioner will get clogged up with junk restricting oil flow to the timing chain tensioner and thus also causing your rattle. Whole separate issue on the earth dream K series motor.

    • @scottherod2673
      @scottherod2673 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theoffroadingmechanic those godforsaken screens are great and a curse. Gotta have them to keep things clean but when they plug up the tensioner rattles and the old k24s go into limp mode. Having worked in the engine plant at HCM for 13 years I can tell you that oil filtering and screening are important

  • @center__feed
    @center__feed ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish you had a video in that I could hear what the problem sounded like. I have been watching videos that had the VTC problem and the cold start sound that I had was more of a chain hitting he sides of the valve cover. th-cam.com/users/shortsCbc1eBzJ0EY?feature=share What is this sound? I think its the timing belt tensioner. I could be wrong. Cold start in the morning and it goes away.

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its because the VTC actuator isn't locking causing the chain to slack causing it to sound like that. I'll make a shorts video when I get one

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start ปีที่แล้ว

      springstart vtc has a video of the sound to diagnose and replacement honda vtc locking pin springs to help without replacing the whole gear for all Honda and Acura vehicles.

    • @user-tl4kq2qe2d
      @user-tl4kq2qe2d ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning, I have a crv 2014 car. When I start it in the morning, it makes a rough sound, but for how many moments, can I know what is the problem?

    • @user-tl4kq2qe2d
      @user-tl4kq2qe2d ปีที่แล้ว

      Good morning, I have a crv 2014 car. When I start it in the morning, it makes a rough sound, but for how many moments, can I know what is the problem?

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start ปีที่แล้ว

      Typically 1-2 seconds there is a rattle or grinding sound.

  • @tanerayvaz2590
    @tanerayvaz2590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Problem ne neden soktu ve değiştirdin

    • @c.mattcecen188
      @c.mattcecen188 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arabayi calistirinca bi ses geliyor araba sogukken, araba sicakken sorun yok. O sesi gidermesi icin degistirdi. Motora sorun olusturcak bir durum degil, sadece ses gitmesi icin degistiriliyor.

  • @filip1997andersson
    @filip1997andersson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    No... do not change the acuator its a spring thats faulty

  • @dudehi3317
    @dudehi3317 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My buddy had his replaced and it still rattles lol

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did they just replace the VTC actuator? Where you can sneak the sprocket out or did they remove the timing cover and also inspect the timing components for any broken chanin guides?

    • @dudehi3317
      @dudehi3317 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theoffroadingmechanic they replaced everything that had to do with timing new chain guides vct actuator almost of it now two weeks later it jumped time 🙄 so idk if they did it right or what but it still made the noise that's why I'm not replacing mine just for it to make the noise again ya ko

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  หลายเดือนก่อน

      th-cam.com/users/shorts8o4a-Tml3pg?feature=share
      Can you check this it can also sound like it but it is actually just a worn out belt bottoming out the tensioner that makes it sound like a VTC actuator

    • @dudehi3317
      @dudehi3317 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theoffroadingmechanic wow ya no mine sounds like thanks man me and my dad will deffently check that out big help man

  • @Tracy-wr7mj
    @Tracy-wr7mj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2016 crv also

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The later 15 and 16 will have the earth dream motor but also do the same thing. Just titled 2011-2015 for the non earth dream motor in the CRV. th-cam.com/video/959vbtsLKPI/w-d-xo.html

  • @GgRae-gv1tg
    @GgRae-gv1tg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do not fall for this scam. My dealer tried this on me. We use an old timer who specializes in Japanese autos. We have a 2004 Ep3 SI Honda. He replaced the PCV VALVE. Problem solved. Do that first. Get a proper OEM PCV VALVE. Do the simple things first. 😮

    • @mediaguy4037
      @mediaguy4037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What are you going on about? 😅 this is a common failure on these cars. Go back to the looney bin

    • @GgRae-gv1tg
      @GgRae-gv1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mediaguy4037 OK cupcake, you know everything. This worked for me. It was inexpensive. VETEC works like a bear. Best of all...I did not have to take the top of the engine off. Please, don't try it. You are one of those untrained shade tree guys that have one tool in the box..a hammer 🔨.

    • @mediaguy4037
      @mediaguy4037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GgRae-gv1tg calling something a scam when this is a car repair video. Your mind is a scam 😅 go read a book

    • @GgRae-gv1tg
      @GgRae-gv1tg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mediaguy4037 Are you OK? You seem to be highly emotional and acting out. What have you done to your customers? Broken their trust? Lack of integrity? Hmm I wonder 🤔 😏 😌.

    • @mediaguy4037
      @mediaguy4037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GgRae-gv1tg I’m not a mechanic. You nut

  • @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc
    @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have replaced the Vtc actuator twice and it goes away for about a month then it’s back it’s so annoying and loud

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't happen to be an earth dream motor is it? If not can you see if it is something like this I have a shorts video.
      th-cam.com/users/shorts8o4a-Tml3pg?si=nhpTslKdFGnSHJ19

  • @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc
    @CrystalMcCafferty-kj8uc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We have replaced the Vtc actuator twice and it goes away for about a month then it’s back it’s so annoying and loud

    • @theoffroadingmechanic
      @theoffroadingmechanic  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you check this I have a video maybe it's not a VTC actuator rattle and just a worn out belt
      th-cam.com/users/shorts8o4a-Tml3pg?si=nhpTslKdFGnSHJ19

    • @spring-start
      @spring-start 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just replace the Honda VTC actuator spring. Easy "search"