Portal's Rarest Dialogue | Camera Shy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2023
- In Portal, there is supposed to be special dialogue when completing the Camera Shy achievement...except this special dialogue almost never plays. Because of this, very few players know about its existence. Let's look into why this dialogue has become one of Portal's most hidden secrets.
🎨 Special thanks to Drea for creating the Chell wiggle animation: / andreamerart
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MUSIC:
• Portal - Taste of Blood
• Sonic Mania - Stardust Speedway Zone
• Sonic Mania - Comfort Zone
• Pictionary (NES) - Drawing Game
• Plok - Beach
• Portal - Still Alive (Radio Mix)
REFERENCES:
• npc_security_camera.cpp - github.com/VSES/SourceEngine2...
• keyboard coincidence (Kim Swift) - web.archive.org/web/201606290.... - เกม
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I never realized it was that rare. On my second playthrough, I decided to destroy all the cameras, but always waited for her to stop speaking before destroying them, because I was worried it would interrupt her and I like the dialogue.
i did the same thing, because in the first half life almost anything interrupted npc dialog so i got used to wait for the npcs to stop talking before messing around
Plus I really love GLaDOS' voice
Lol nice
Glados may be trying to kill you, but that’s no reason to be impolite
@@gummybread professionals have standards. Which is double funny because her voice actor is married to the sniper
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*i don't know but why Valve Software was doing like this? Who knows another valve games have unknown things?*
I like how you can hear Glados's voice get corrupted by her anger at you destroying the cameras. Another subtle hint she is sentient
Subtle hint? Isn't it obvious?
@@deathbyunicorn5213 well, everything is obvious in hindsight. It wasn’t how the game was written for the player to know she is sentient and it only really works if you played back in 2007 without spoilers.
@@TeakKey7 I see. The way you phrased it made it sound like it's supposed to be some secret or an unconfirmed theory even today despite her being plugged into a potato
@@deathbyunicorn5213 lol. Yeah no, was just pointing out how great the writing is
if valve ever did make another game ya they would have the funds to keep the standards they set years ago@@TeakKey7
As an 7 or 8 year old kid I played Portal around 2013-2014, and I remember being really worried that I might accidentally cut GLaDOS off if I did anything, so I would just stand still whenever she talked, but I also destroyed all the cameras because idk funny? so I heard that line my first playthrough. It just makes me love these games so much more that so much effort was put into them.
@ 7 yea sure ^^
@@_G3M5_ ?
@@_G3M5_ I’m not really sure what the question is. That I was 7 or 8, or that I played Portal at that age? Because all the things I said were true. There’s no point to lie about something that gets barely any recognition. I’m not petty to the lengths that I would make up stories just for online validation.
This makes sense. You don't want her to interrupt herself, but you also don't want her to skip any camera lines. So they really needed to check the achievement counter and skip the dialogue counter ahead when it's 33.
I'm not trying to patronize you or be rude I just like thinking about this stuff, also, take what I say with a grain of salt as I'm not a valve employee and I'm an amateur programmer at best.
There are better simpler implementations that don't require a connection to the steam service or reference to another part of the code, eg, simply keeping track of the times the player portals a camera off the wall independently of the dialogue playing or not; eliminating the need for a "Dialogue" counter in the first place. Safeguards around if the player dies might need to be considered depending on how the aforementioned code was implemented, eg not adding to the count if the player dies 15 times on a level and shoots the camera off the wall every one of those 15 times or 15 times without shooting it and only shooting it on the 16th time, but I digress.
yeah, the dialogue counter is no needed at all, the achievement counter does all the work
@@cunny1 the achievements would cause it to reload same dialogue on new save
@@drekenproductions Isn't the achievement counter tied to the save file? otherwise, we would then be able to create 33 saves and destroy the first camera in each and eventually get the achievement
@@cunny1 yeah i thought about that after i posted lmao idk it is bad coding for sure. should just count then ignore script if talking.
I think the reason the achievement counter and the voiceline counter are separated by the "is glados talking" check, is to keep track of the achievement while also making sure that the player hears all 4 of the camera detachment voicelines.
If both counters went up or if was just a single counter keeping track then everytime glados was already talking and a camera got detached, the corresponding voiceline would be skipped.
A simple fix would be to have a check for the achievement counter before selecting a voiceline.
Something like
If(achieve.count = 33 OR voice.count = 33) { play special voiceline}
Though everything seems obvious in hindsight
It may be that the game can send events to the achievement system, but can't read from it. In which case, it would have to have a third variable 😕. Probably worth, but still - unfortunate
Wouldnt you only need to check if achieve.count == 33? Since it counts the number of times the camera has been shot down and the voiceline counter, as mentioned in the video, almost never is equal to 33
@@Fishman2028 It's highly unlikely, imo, that they can't read the memory related to achievements, as iirc the game has an in-game achievement tracker as well.
In all honesty they could've just programmed it differently but didn't think about it enough. Bugs are a lot more obvious in hindsight once they're discovered
@@managar5569 Yeah, maybe its just comparing to the wrong variable and that's all that would need to change.
I used both in my example but as you point out the other counter would very likely never reach 33.
Perhaps it was only meant to keep track of the first few instances and any checks beyond that should reference the achievement variable instead 🤔
The achievement counter is actually through steam. The game itself has no access to it. Steam listens for events and increments its own counter. This is why the game needs to keep track of it to do logic. This is nothing more than a simple bug with a simple fix. Just have a third counter that tracks which voice line was last played. It was just overlooked by the devs since the achievement worked as expected and nothing else depends on the number of destroyed cameras
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I read this in Red Hood's voice and it cracked me up
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I loved portal and had no idea this voice line existed. Great video, would love to see more stuff like this.
Its been 5 months..
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Your check is in the mail.
He's diversifying so that he won't go down with overwatch.
It should be a great message in of itself to try to strive for better presentation, because that's how you get people coming back even for the content people are less fond of. A few examples I have are decino and uricksaladbar, because I think I've watched most of their documentation videos based on mostly clean presentation alone
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It's very rare to see extremely quality Portal content on this platform, let alone covering a topic as obscure as this glitched line. Hats off to you for bringing light to this! It'd been something I had known about for a very long while, but hadn't had the chance to ever talk about. You did it way better than I could with the presentation, even despite me being the Portal Lore Master :)
there are quite a bunch of good portal creators on this platform as well as video game creators in general that have good videos about portal. as an example of the first one i can name Msushi and of the second one - tomatoanus
*i don't know but why Valve Software was doing like this? Who knows another valve games have unknown things?*
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@@critterfarts7018 Yeah, they're pretty similar, but calling him a clone is disregarding the work and research he puts into his videos lmao
I don't doubt that there's comparisons to be made, but he isn't a "clone". I'm not gonna argue who's better than who, I'm just saying that even when they have similar a similar approach to their content delivery, there's still a distinct style separating the two.
Again, calling Marblr a clone ain't it.
@@critterfarts7018why bother telling ppl this, marblr makes great content. is he not allowed to be a human that takes inspiration from other ppl, no one can truly do an idea first
@@critterfarts7018 well, most differences aren't super obvious because they're similar, like you said, but it comes down to the delivery of the content itself. They both use motion graphics and have educational videos on obscure topics, but the way they both talk differently, present said graphics diferently, do the breakdowns and examples differently, etc. I honestly don't blame you for not being able to tell, not everyone is the same, but that comment you made would've been fine if you just said that the two channels were alike instead of saying one is a clone of another lol
That comment pizzatime made is leagues worse tho lmao. Not to throw shade on him but he said some wild nonsense that ultimately doesn't have anything to do with your original comment nor any of the responses
@@critterfarts7018 i aint reading all that, you care way too much about minute aesthetic differences between youtubers, touch some grass.
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Marblr please do a deep dive into how you damage the panels in the ship spawn rooms in overwatch control point maps. I always go insane when it takes only a single tick of winstons gun to break them but it takes 2 hanzo arrows and like 20 ana shots. This is an extremely important topic and HAS to be looked into.
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Why does quick melee always break the panels insrantly when so many guns don't?
Actually a great question
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this is something i never fully knew i was "studying", in my head canon every breakable object has a sort of healthbar that doesn't use regular hp but a "how many times can this thing be hit before it breaks regardless of how much damage it's supposed to be getting" bar, and ana's biotic rifle is an interesting (and infuriating) thing when it comes to that. a great example would be junkertown's bike in the attackers' spawn, where (almost) every bit of damage causes it to shake around. with the bike, ana's rifle can "shake" the bike up to three times. but the bike itself also has a cooldown between every shake so i could be entirely wrong!! anyhow i'd absolutely love a video on this
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Please make more of these videos. It's so interesting to see the inner workings of Valve Games and have them explained in an easy yet detailed way, I'm 100% here for it!
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@@potatoguy7929 I already watch Shounic, thats why I'm so excited that Marblr is starting to dip his toes into Valve games.
@@potatoguy7929 Man i wished Shounic made vids on other Valve games
I think these types of videos really suit your style outside of Overwatch, I've always been obsessed with HOW things work and you're just feeding me.
I’m almost certain I’ve heard the achievement dialogue! I must have let her finish every dialogue by pure coincidence
Miss u man :(
I know you haven’t uploaded in a while but I found a glitch with mauga’s ultimate where if there are people inside of it, those kills will count for 2. So if you kill 3 people inside your ult, then you will get 6 kills triggering the sextuple kill voice line.
This feels like a spiritual successor to Doom's "ouch face" bug. It's a bug caused by a very obvious flaw in logic, but the effect is that a cosmetic feature rarely triggers (meaning most people won't even know it exists just by playing the game) with no effect on gameplay. I wonder if someone could mod portal to fix this bug (probably by adding a separate check to override the dialogue counter if the achievement counter is 33)
same with the minecraft direction hit flinch
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@@cdmonmcginn7561 that's a little bit different because it causes it to completely ignore the value rather than make the correct value hard to achieve
2:57 for those who just want to hear the voice line
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I was genuinely thinking just yesterday that you make such good, interesting and easy to understand way you could easily branch out in to other things/games and capture a wider audience. This was great. Keep at it !
I love the visual breakdown and explanation of the code, the icing on the cake are the subtitles you also provide. subed, great work!!
After so many years, learning something completely new about Portal is incredible! Also, your editting with the cameras was awesome, loved the live counter to keep track
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Game design and development has been my passion for over 7 years now, and this channel going through all the interesting quirks of every game, not just overwatch, is going to captivate me for a very long time. Love the new content, cant wait to see what other interesting things you can find in other games!
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4:03 WAIT THIS IS CRAZY
I just finished Death Stranding, which features deliveries of companion cubes, and the final one (spoiler alert)
calls for you to incinerate the companion cube that was behind all of the missions. You then receive an email that (spoiler high alert)
informs you that the cube actually held the consciousness of GLaDOS and she is now able to return to her world
this was no coincidence (?)
This was a super interesting video! Always neat to learn new Portal trivia and you explained it super concisely!
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never expected a portal video from you, but as someone whos been in love with this game and series since i first played it over 12 years ago, i am all for this video and your other types of content. i loved this video
as a game dev, i can guarantee you this was the work of one tired dev at like 4 am going like "fuck it it's too hard to get the variable for achievement progress, just make a dialogue counter instead w/e" and here we are 16 years later still talking about it lmao
i've always wondered what those cubes outside of the maps were for, now i just have to find out what the red orbs next to them do as well
Keep doin what you do Marblr! This gives me some old A+Start and glitch hunting vibes. Would love to see more. Love seeing the deeper side of what makes a glitch a glitch and why it is that way.
Thank you for this video! I love Portal with all of my heart, and I had no idea about this. I enjoyed the video greatly 🖤
please continue branching out like this! your presentation style and editing are always a joy to watch. you could post a video about a mosquito's digestive system and i'm sure i'd still be entertained ✨
Where's marblr?
I love the style of editing, instantly subbed!!!!
Such a great video! Thank you for all the OW content, but portal content is equally appreciated!! ❤
Honestly... As someone who's currently majoring CS, this whole video inspires me to pursue game development at some point, even as a hobbie. Your final speech conveyed emotion in a really good way
As someone who is a self taught programmer, I only know programming as a game development hobby and nothing else :)
When I'm programming something I'm passionate about I get into "the zone", that's what makes me continue to program.
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I just found your channel through this video, I love it :D
I appreciate that you made a Portal playlist even though you only have one Portal video so far. A lot of channels don't make playlists even for a series with many installments, or they don't keep it updated. Respect 👍🏽
bro made portal vid and immediately gone lmao
bro stepped away from overwatch for one second and they punished him for it
But this video performed well@@_Circe
@@ItzJupiter I was implying that blizzard assassinated him for making a video about something other than Overwatch.
Ohhh lmao that makes sense@@_Circe
RIP Marblr
Sub'd because your content is very clear, precise and spoken with some clarity. Yup.
I will 100% check out anything you make because your videos are just that good!
it's here 2:59
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dude I love portal and this video from you is a godsend
Keep this up I love this form of content and it seems to transfer really well to other games Good job man.
It's interesting that everyone couldent wait 33 seconds
7:08 OMG Is that Chell? I need the source for that, please.
Short, but super informative! Loved this video, tysm!
I really like this! It never came up in my feed though, which is weird because I almost always watch your videos on release.
Portal is a great choice to start branching out the content, usually those changes are kinda jarring but Portal has a special place in people's hearts. Nice video as always.
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Please keep making videos like this. Learning stuff like this in games is always cool. Now I'm gonna get a rare voice line!!
You just make everything so easy to understand! Great Video!
Wya bro?
Brotha you dont have to make a 7 minute video about a single voiceline
I am very glad that you are expanding the themes for your videos!
I really glad that you tried something new, you are really good in deep dives of games mechanics, hope you will continue ❤
this guy is c9ing his channel LOL
I actually went to test this out to see if I would get it at like 1:45 of the video before I saw what was required for it and accidentally got it because I knew the voice lines of detaching the camera does not play if glados is already speaking and I wanted to hear all of the detachment voice lines. I thought I hit an ultra rare easter egg or something but then I watched the rest of the video and it was just weird code lol
Videos like this, exploring the way the game was created, are brilliant! I love this so much. Please make more like this 🫶
if you have more Portal stuff, keep going at it
this was fascinating!
Such a great video about such a small topic, great job!
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